Why Peter, Paul and Mary Broke Up, the Truth Is Hard to Swallow

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[@mrcalcat]

Like no other, PP&M is the music of my life. I first heard them at a Unitarian Church summer camp. One of the camper's father was a DJ in Chicago, and he brought along several pre-release records, including PP&M. It was played on the first night during dinner. I do not think we ever listened to the other LPs because we played PP&M at every gathering. I saw them in concert 4 times, the last on the beach in Naples, Florida. My preschool daughter had a doll named Mary, who she carried everywhere. When we arrived at the beach, the trio came on stage for a sound check. My little girl shrieked “MARY”, ran up on stage, and presented her doll to its namesake. Mary kissed it and handed it back. My wife and I had no idea that Mary Travers was THE Mary. Now her daughter loves to hear me play “Puff.” There has been no one like them. Now kids have Taylor Swift. Not bad, but not the same.

[@es330td]

Age 53 I have seen some pretty big names in rock and roll and country music including Garth Brooks, Willie Nelson, Billy Joel and Eric Clapton. To this day, my most lasting concert memory is the night at Trinity University in San Antonio, TX when PP&M stopped playing, bowed their heads and let the audience sing "Where Have All The Flowers Gone?" to them.

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[@imikey535]

They didn’t break up. Mary passed away. That pretty much was the end of the group.

[@LarryWhite-kw5mj]

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[@imikey535]

@@FactsVerse OMG. I don’t know if I can just pick one. Puff the Magic Dragon, of course. Inside. Right Field. The Marvelous Toy. Garden Song.

[@geraldscott4302]

@@imikey535 Without a doubt, Blowing in the Wind.

[@mrbill9248]

​@@imikey535when i was 13 my stepdad would sing that song outside my bedroom door when he would smell my grass .

[@Mary-rv5kc]

I was lucky enough to see them in concert twice. What talents!

[@patrickryan1515]

Fav. Song ; "500 Miles". No better version ever heard by me.

[@bryanhenderson8807]

My favorite Peter Paul and Mary song is Puff The Magic Dragon. Mom and dad gave me the 45 when I was a child. It was one of my favorite songs and I played it frequently.

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[@mrbill9248]

My stepdad would sing that really loud outside my bedroom door while i smoked pot at age 13 .

[@chrisvickers7928]

My favourite is their cover of Dylan's 'Blowin' in the Wind'.

[@CyndisKrist]

Personal and professional differences are common to most bands, as is the growing apart of band members and the desire to move on to other projects at some point. It's best to enjoy the good times while they're happening and cherish the memories of them later.

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[@greenbeagle13]

Their harmonies were untouchable. I loved "Puff the Magic Dragon"... To me it was a song that described the transition from being a playful child, to an adult and it's complexities. It had nothing to do with drugs.

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[@tomhubbard1900]

Is no one going to mention Peter's arrest for statutory rape? He was caught with a 14-year-old girl in his hotel room. Many other girls testified in his trial at the time. My recollection was that his sentence included being forbidden to perform in public, which forced the group to stop doing shows. Mary died many years *after* they'd broken up. I realize they did occasional reunion concerts, I've always assumed there was a time limit on Peter's sentence. But the breakup happened long before Mary passed, and at the time, the general opinion was that it was because of Peter's arrest.

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[@ThomasNoonan-qc8vp]

I recall the news item that President Carter granted pardon. That meant no restrictions on him.

[@tomhubbard1900]

@@ThomasNoonan-qc8vp Oh, sure. But President Carter became President in 1976, and left office in 1980. This was long after PPM had broken up. Again, the trio stopped performing when Peter was arrested, not when Mary passed.

[@LLewis-vu9qf]

Tomhubbard1900. -- Sorry Tom. Some of your 'facts' are not quite correct. Peter was never arrested or convicted of rape. As reported in the video, he was arrested for taking indecent liberties, but never for rape. He only served three months. He would have served longer with a rape conviction. The group got back together in the late 70s or early 80s and performed some of their best songs as well as releasing several albums/CDs. They remained performing thru Mary's illness until she sadly passed away in 2009. She insisted on continuing to perform as long as she could. She would appear onstage with her cane and would sit on a stool. Her death was indeed the end of the group.

[@timlacy2284]

I saw Peter Paul and Mary in summer of 1980 when I was stationed at Fort Sill, Oklahoma..Great Show.

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[@timlacy2284]

@@FactsVerse I like all of them Puff The Magic Dragon if I had to pick one.

[@maestromike91971]

I liked Peter, Paul and Mary. They we’re not my favorite kind of band. But I can I appreciate all kinds of music and being musician, singer songwriter, trying to make it in the business.

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[@danielfarmer2026]

Puff the magic dragon 🐉

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[@staff4thecat]

"Danny's Downs" and "Right Field" are wonderful personal songs to check out if you haven't heard them.

[@LLewis-vu9qf]

Their song 'Don't Go Down to the Quarry' was in no way a protest song, at least their version wasn't. Their arrangement was definitely done in a humorous, light-hearted fashion. 😊

[@wardelliaenoch8936]

We need Peter, Paul and Mary today 😅😊

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[@jgatkinson744]

I remember their hits and liked all of them, but like a lot of people they let their political views and protest take a toll on their career. If you’re going to be a successful entertainer, you should leave politics along.

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[@davidbwa]

I got to see them in person once in the 90s in a fairly intimate theater (several hundred). It was nice. And they stayed at the front of the stage after the show for the folks who wanted to come up and talk / ask questions and such

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[@davehopping7212]

Saw them once, in 1964.Breathtaking tunes, vocals, everything. At the time their activism wasn't front and center, so the whole experience was musical rather than political. Later on they were more closely aligned with some pretty sketchy ideologies, and I recall Yarrow being quoted as not understanding why people would picket their appearances carrying signs that read "If I had a sickle".

[@thefamouspeopleus]

Peter, Paul, and Mary were not just a folk trio; they were cultural icons whose music resonated deeply with the social movements of their time.

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The bowel movements of their time.

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[@DoubleMrE]

I remember back in the day, Mary totally outshone Peter & Paul. Everybody knew Mary Travers name, but maybe only 1 in 10 people knew Peter & Paul’s last names. Even today, that’s still pretty much true 😐

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[@terr777]

Woody Guthrie's "Car Car" live is hilarious.

[@taun856]

I really loved their music though I never really paid attention to the politics of the lyrics. I just accepted the songs as songs. Favorite song is a toss up between "Puff The Magic Dragon" and "Leaving on a Jet Plane", though "550 Miles" is an honorable mention.

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[@LilXaee]

Why i thought this was an update from the spiderman comics before clicking😂 Mary Jane got stuck in an alternate dimension or something and got with a dude named Paul and adopted a kid and Peter obviously being Spiderman 😂

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[@shawnhuff3920]

Leaving on a jet plane was written by John Denver 😊

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[@maestromike91971]

Did they sing, Puff, the magic dragon ? I’m pretty sure, almost positive they did?

[@daisynieves1644]

Yes, it was them😊.

[@rainbowranddy]

@@daisynieves1644 Indeed they did.

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[@maestromike91971]

@@daisynieves1644 thank you. I was 99% thinking it was. I googled it earlier.. 😆

[@kensmith8152]

Like a lot of the great bands of the sixties, they were lightning in a bottle, but the bottle was destroyed by success!

[@Easts101]

Their history sounds like the Everly Brothers. Close harmony over a long time. All just had to have a break.

[@nonrepublicrat]

Peter, Paul, and Mary kicked ass!!

[@rainbowranddy]

The guys kept Mary on a nearly impossible diet.

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[@brucethomas5123]

And the result was awesome

[@EdgarCamacho-hc6dj]

No PPM without MARY TRAVERS!

[@maxbialystock254]

Always thought Stewball was their best.

[@irishledden4924]

They made a lot of money but they never grew up.

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[@elliedogify]

The Great Mandela, greatest war protest song !

[@mrbill9248]

Truth is Peter was screwin Paul and Paul was screwin Mary . It became madness on the road .

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[@reneearkin7285]

Where have all their hair gone?

[@oldfogey4679]

And one of their bass players was the awesome Ed Coleman! Peter told Ed if the gitek they'd booked refused Ed for being black then the group wouldn't stay there! Peter kept his word luckily the times they were a changing!

[@johnpastore7685]

I met marry

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How was Mary personally?

[@johnpastore7685]

@@FactsVerseShe was so down to earth. Great lady

[@glennpittman7325]

puff the magic dragon

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[@glennpittman7325]

@@FactsVerse blowin in the wind.

[@oldfogey4679]

That's hotel

[@brucesmith9206]

Favorite song? Do I have to choose?

[@lkmsl]

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[@alg11297]

So they were the creation of a schrewd producer and their "activism" was in futherance of money. With no one interested in folk music anymore its no wonder they broke up.

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