Why Protestants NEED Mary!

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Matt Fradd

Matt Fradd

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@jozzen77
@jozzen77 9 ай бұрын
I am fine. Jesus is doing a fine job saving me on His own.
@wehavetherecipes
@wehavetherecipes 9 ай бұрын
A woman brought me back to the church... you may have heard of her. I wear a picture of her around my neck
@Bowdy_Up
@Bowdy_Up 9 ай бұрын
That’s a graven image, an idol. Read Exodus 20:4
@Bowdy_Up
@Bowdy_Up 9 ай бұрын
It also comes from idol worship of pagans/hindu
@jeremysmith7176
@jeremysmith7176 9 ай бұрын
​@@Bowdy_UpSo did Gid command Moses to sin in having the Arc of the Covenant built with two angels on it?
@nickcormier8571
@nickcormier8571 9 ай бұрын
Amen. Same here
@DJones0492
@DJones0492 9 ай бұрын
And I am a tattoo of our beautiful loving mother on my arm. She's permanently on me
@DarkTwistedHistory
@DarkTwistedHistory 9 ай бұрын
Jesus came to tear down the wall of separation between us and God that was caused by our sin. We’ve all sinned and that includes Mary, none of us could keep the law perfectly and our sin must be paid with blood, Jesus is the only person who was without sin, which made Him the perfect person to take on our sin because He had none of His own. He did not come to make us like God, He came to restore our fellowship with God so we could have the deep relationship with Him that God intended us to have from the beginning when He created the world. The focus of Christianity is Jesus, not Mary, as the only mediator between us and God is Christ.
@Christ.ourlight
@Christ.ourlight 9 ай бұрын
Being like Christ… like GOD just means having his qualities… his love and holiness
@mothegoat6865
@mothegoat6865 8 ай бұрын
@@Christ.ourlight But the dude in the video says deification that’s very different than sanctification.
@jaykay4541
@jaykay4541 7 ай бұрын
Yes the true heresy is that Catholics believe Mary is sinless. They deny she is a “god” but in the Old and New Testament it’s clear that no man and only God is sinless. Jesus says it, “Why do you call me good, only God is alone good” It is calling Mary god to call her sinless. That’s the pinpoint of the problem.
@DijiGloria
@DijiGloria 6 ай бұрын
You are trying to tell me that Jesus came out of a sinful person
@DarkTwistedHistory
@DarkTwistedHistory 6 ай бұрын
@@DijiGloria Yes He did, the only person who was sinless was and is Jesus. Mary needed a Savior just like the rest of us.
@jacobhargiss9909
@jacobhargiss9909 9 ай бұрын
This is a deflection. No one has a problem with Mary. No one is saying we should not love Mary. But there is a difference between loving the mother of our savior and praying to her as the catholics do.
@badkatz_yt
@badkatz_yt 9 ай бұрын
Exactly. At no point does he actually answer the original question.
@veronicaguillen672
@veronicaguillen672 9 ай бұрын
Because we don’t hope that helps
@jacobhargiss9909
@jacobhargiss9909 9 ай бұрын
@@veronicaguillen672 "hail mary full of grace the lord is with thee". This is directly a comunication from the one praying to mary the mortal human mother of Jesus Christ.
@matthewvanwyhe1498
@matthewvanwyhe1498 9 ай бұрын
Yes, it’s sayings that if you disagree with Catholics on any point then you don’t want to be like Christ, which is simply not true. But at least he makes a good point about the goal of Christianity being about becoming like Christ.
@jacobhargiss9909
@jacobhargiss9909 9 ай бұрын
@@matthewvanwyhe1498 true, he does make that good point. Quite frankly, their devotion to Jesus Christ is the one reason I still respect the catholic faith.
@CorporalCake
@CorporalCake 9 ай бұрын
"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" -1 Timothy 2:5
@vinciblegaming6817
@vinciblegaming6817 9 ай бұрын
You should read it in context.
@TomahawkChopa
@TomahawkChopa 9 ай бұрын
Explain it for me because it seems pretty straight forward. You can only pray to Christ. No one else can hear you​@@vinciblegaming6817
@gilmarjunior7700
@gilmarjunior7700 9 ай бұрын
​@@vinciblegaming6817the context is saying that you can only be united with Christ when you look only to Him, not to Mary, or apostles, etc. Because only He is the mediator between God and men, the Christ Jesus (1 Timothy 2:5)
@veritaschristoetecclesiae4479
@veritaschristoetecclesiae4479 9 ай бұрын
@@gilmarjunior7700We are not "looking" anywhere. You need to get up off your computer and go out into the world and live with Catholics who are in the trenches of society, serving others and helping people, living out their faith, with Jesus and in the love to His mother. The holy apostle John loved her, so why can't you? I have absolutely no clue how much Jesus loves his mother. She literally raised Jesus (who was God); God literally was nourished by Mary in her womb, and grew to fulfill His mission, I.e, to establish His Church, and to justify us before the Heavenly Father. Mary plays a crucial role in Salvation history -- if you cannot see how her yes (fiat) to God, her total abandonment and obedience to co-operating with God and in protecting him from being slaughtered by Herod, etc. What respectable young man does not deeply love their mother? You have absolutely no idea the bond a mother has with their child. You have not spent the time thinking about this bond, and how she suffered when seeing her son brutally tortured. "And a sword will pierce your own heart..." Luke 2:34-35 . I am simply fed up with people who have no understanding of the reality of how God chose to justify men and women, and how Mary is united to Christ in a way you can only imagine. Mary comes up in the Bible many times; she is not some insignificant person.
@dimitridawydow5176
@dimitridawydow5176 9 ай бұрын
Exactly. One can only be saved by God and God alone. Christ is our only Mediator, Mary is an intercessor. That’s what Orthodox and Catholics believe. You’ll agree with me that there are people in heaven right now. Mary is in heaven right now, the Apostles and the Saints are in Heaven right now. So why can’t Protestants at least acknowledge their existence and ask them to pray for us?
@davidchristian1717
@davidchristian1717 9 ай бұрын
Jesus hung on the cross and died for my sins. No one else did. I’ll worship Him and Him alone.
@Veritas231
@Veritas231 9 ай бұрын
Missed the point completely. Catholics affirm that too. We dont worship Mary. Protestants like to strip Christianity down the bones and leave all the good meat. God himself gave us the meat so why should we reject it? God gave us his mother and you reject her because she isnt Him?
@FrancisMary-u3s
@FrancisMary-u3s 9 ай бұрын
Praying for you. May Our lady of sorrows help you know Gods truth
@bryanpeters5034
@bryanpeters5034 9 ай бұрын
The Lord, your God, loves this woman above all others. And you're like, "She's mid, whatever." Good luck with that.
@peterilnitsky7677
@peterilnitsky7677 9 ай бұрын
She was the mother of human Jesus, not spiritual jesus. Mary was part of Ruth's bloodline that would eventually bring Christ in the world. She was none other than a normal human being, just like us. She gave birth to Christ but she didn't create Christ, in fact, Jesus was never created, he was part of the trinity. Making Mary, as Devine as Jesus is blasphemy, because the father, son, and holy spirit, are one, and you can't just add a human to become part of that, in other words, creation cannot in any circumstance become a creator. And Jesus specifically said, that no one comes to the father except through me, so why do you have to pray to Mary to tell Jesus what you said? It is contradicting itself.
@Veritas231
@Veritas231 9 ай бұрын
@@peterilnitsky7677 Well, first off, be careful with your language. Jesus wasn't 2 people in one body. So when you talk about Him like that, you make seem like he's a normal guy and a spirit stuck together in the same body. Every time Christ spoke He said I and only I. Never said well hey my human side doesn't want to, but my spiritual side does. No. He's one being with 2 natures. The Catholic church is the church that developed trinitarian theology and defended it against heretics like Arians and Agnostics. So thank the Catholic Church they did that about 1,700 years ago for us.
@badkatz_yt
@badkatz_yt 9 ай бұрын
Protestants have no problem with Mary. We have a problem with exalting her as highly as Catholics do. The only human who is holy and deserving of all the praise is Jesus. The end. And Mary would agree.
@robideals685
@robideals685 9 ай бұрын
She’s almost non existent in your 500 year old protestant churches. The enemy enjoys that because he hates her venomously for some very fundamentally Christian reasons. Find a local Holy Apostolic Catholic Church and inquire about RCIA asap.
@ianhall702
@ianhall702 9 ай бұрын
Hail Mary full of grace, the Lord is with thee, blessed art though amongst women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
@blackhairedrubio
@blackhairedrubio 9 ай бұрын
Yeah and I think Catholics would also agree.
@godswill1598
@godswill1598 9 ай бұрын
You still did not understand
@dogheist2062
@dogheist2062 9 ай бұрын
@@Justhumbleme she was highly favoured because she was chosen to be the mother of Jesus this has nothing to do with her being Holy you can say that the the apostles are Highly favoured as well for being taught by Jesus same with the old testament prophets because they were chosen by God but that doesn't mean the bible said to pray to them
@SameShirtDifferentDay
@SameShirtDifferentDay 9 ай бұрын
I have no idea why, or how, and this is probably only through God, but this man speaking makes me want to be a better person in every way. Incredible.
@IsaBella-yr1rz
@IsaBella-yr1rz 9 ай бұрын
Yes i feel the same
@sonofman9404
@sonofman9404 9 ай бұрын
Don't be deceived. This man is pure counterfeit and a worthless charlatan.
@meina0614
@meina0614 9 ай бұрын
He didnt answer the question. Im OO and although I wouldnt describe catholics veneration of St. Mary as “Marianne Worship”, I do think they go a bit over the top with it. I can understand why protestants buy into this polemic despite how inaccurate it is.
@sonofman9404
@sonofman9404 9 ай бұрын
Where does Jesus demonstrate this mindless love of Mary you speak of? Was it not Jesus who rebuked Mary and told her that he must attend to his Father's business when she was worried sick looking for Jesus. This guy wants you to think he's educated, but he's assuming that you don't know better. 100% of your focus should be on Christ alone. If your stubborn heart leads you to deviate, remember that it is better to obey than to sacrifice. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. No man goes to the Father except through Him. But those who think they know better than Christ will say, no no no, listen to us, plus Mary!!!! Such conduct is anathema and an abomination unto the Lord because you preach a different Gospel than the one handed to us by Christ and his Disciples.
@streltsy
@streltsy 9 ай бұрын
@@sonofman9404Amen!
@sandstorm7768
@sandstorm7768 9 ай бұрын
Lutheran turning Catholic here. I love Mary so much. She's pulling me closer to her son than I've ever been my entire life. ❤ *Everything about Mary is because of God, for God, and points to God.*
@cassielamoureux9362
@cassielamoureux9362 9 ай бұрын
🙏❤️
@maryb3620
@maryb3620 9 ай бұрын
Awesome witness! Our Lady is also Our Spiritual Mother who always points us towards Her Son,in His way,His truth& His Light! Keep coming home to the one true holy& apostolic church that JesusChrist established on earth. He appointed Apostle Peter as His Rock upon whom Christ built Christ’s church and there is only one church with a direct line of succession fm Pope St Peter to today LDR,Pope Francis& that is the RCC.
@GuadalupePicasso
@GuadalupePicasso 9 ай бұрын
Praise God!
@theticoboy
@theticoboy 9 ай бұрын
Well put! Welcome home to Rome. 😇🙏🏼
@roseg1333
@roseg1333 9 ай бұрын
Amen! And welcome we are very glad you are here with us 🙏🏼❤️🕊️🥰✝️
@cassiadocos9719
@cassiadocos9719 8 ай бұрын
And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!” But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!” Luke 11:27-28 And let's not forget that Jesus said, "Whoever will do the will of my father, they are my brothers and sisters and mother," in Matthew 12:48-50. I don't need Marry to be like my savior, she is but my sister in Christ. All I need is Him and His word. There is only one mediator between God and man, and that is Jesus Christ
@CL-im9lk
@CL-im9lk 8 ай бұрын
Did Mary not do the will of the Father? She did to the ultimate. Jesus’ answer doesn’t exclude Mary. It includes Mary and every other person that do the will of God. It is not the bearing and the nursing that made Mary blessed. It is her doing the will of God. Mary is our mother and mediator with Jesus. No one loves Mary more than Jesus and we ought to follow Jesus. No competition between Jesus and Mary. Mary always leads you to Jesus.
@enriquilloastral3463
@enriquilloastral3463 8 ай бұрын
Amen @cassiadocos9719
@Zzennobi
@Zzennobi 8 ай бұрын
And the fastest mediator to Jesus is His Mother. She is not only blessed, as you've quoted, but also full of grace, therefore without sin and we're not. If Jesus made Her our mother it was for purpose that we ought not to object but seek to acknowledge, accept, understand and fullfill.
@Spe3D3m0n
@Spe3D3m0n 8 ай бұрын
​@@ZzennobiALL have sinned, and fallen short of God's glory. Either the Bible is God's word and everything you said isn't true, or you don't believe God wrote the Bible and you have some man-based faith
@Zzennobi
@Zzennobi 8 ай бұрын
@@Spe3D3m0n Gabriel said Mary is full of grace, that means full of Holy Spirit, that means without sin.
@ChkynBoy
@ChkynBoy 9 ай бұрын
Mathew 12 47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee. 48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? 49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
@sammygomes7381
@sammygomes7381 9 ай бұрын
They will never understand unless they turn to Christ.
@brujachingona2175
@brujachingona2175 4 ай бұрын
Do you think Jesus meant that one should ACTUALLY hate his family in order to be His follower? Or was He using hyperbole? To understand Christ, you need to see Him as a rabbi, teaching His students in the rabbinical manner of the school of Hal-El.
@ChkynBoy
@ChkynBoy 4 ай бұрын
@@brujachingona2175 or I could read God's word and be guided by the Holy Spirit.
@almalozano1783
@almalozano1783 2 ай бұрын
​@@ChkynBoyyou interpret the Bible according to your interpretation, Not God's guidance Dont be Hypocrites, You don't Love Mary, you don't believe in her Perpetual Virginity If you Loved Mary you would defend her against all slander, on the contrary you Offend her and her Son Jesus And nobody loves Her more than Jesus He who Serves me My Father Glorifies!!! John 12:26 Jesus wills to Glorify Mary!! But Heretics don't want to understand that
@ChkynBoy
@ChkynBoy 2 ай бұрын
@@almalozano1783 it is funny that quoting Jesus offended you so much. Are you sure I'm the heretic?
@svrt5471
@svrt5471 9 ай бұрын
Wow, can’t wait for this video to come out! My two favorite people to listen to on KZbin.
@LightHouse_222
@LightHouse_222 8 ай бұрын
❤ The full length version of this video touched me deeply. I went to a local Catholic shop and bought books on the rosary. Tonight I said the rosary with Gabe and his family on his channel. ❤
@Jamieforeals
@Jamieforeals 7 ай бұрын
Jesus came to make me like God? Jesus came to die for the sins of humanity! So no I’m not convinced I need Mary but I also don’t hate her. I simply acknowledge who she was. We NEED Jesus. We need his salvation, we need to be saved and salvation comes through Jesus. He said no one could go to the father except through him.
@silasbucur685
@silasbucur685 22 күн бұрын
When I share the gospel with a foreigner in a short amount of time I explain salvation to them without the Mary part
@ricknjessrb
@ricknjessrb 9 ай бұрын
Where in the Scriptures does God direct us to worship Mary in order to be Christlike?
@elf-lordsfriarofthemeadowl2039
@elf-lordsfriarofthemeadowl2039 9 ай бұрын
The more conservative Lutheran and Anglican denominations pray the Rosary. Removing Mariology was a later development, but most Protestants think it only a "Catholic thing to be fixed"
@austromyrtus
@austromyrtus 9 ай бұрын
No Roary in the Bible - did not develop until about a thousand years later. Neither was there any mention of making stautues of Mary or asking her for intercession - all came later. Protestants sought to get back to just what scripture teaches clearly.
@rcbmmines4579
@rcbmmines4579 9 ай бұрын
@austromyrtus see that’s the other major problem, especially for less traditional denominations. Protestants believe in Sola Scriptura, that Scripture is the only authoritative source we have on the Word of God and that all truth and practices can only come from explicit parts of it. This is, ironically itself, unbiblical. When the Judaizers and Gentile Christians had a dispute on if the latter should follow all of the Mosaic Law (circumcision and Kosher diet) in Acts 15, how did the Early Church solve it? Did they just go back to their Bibles and debate from there? No. If that was the case, at best there’s no clear answer. At worst, the Judaizers would’ve won out. But instead, the Church held the first Ecumenical Council, the Council of Jerusalem. It was St. Peter who ultimately steered it to the right direction by saying the gentiles didn’t need to do it. St. James and the other Apostles then agreed. This is doctrinal development from the leadership of the early Church, independent but equal to Scripture which then recorded it later. We Catholics, as well as Orthodox and to a lesser extent Anglicans and Lutherans, know this development still goes on. If Protestant mindset was around then, they’d be the heretics who disobeyed and disregarded the council, which would then mean they also ignored the later Scriptures that would record it. Paul himself wrote that we follow teachings both written and spoken. John himself said there’s not enough books in the world to record what Christ taught, much less what He would teach later. For the fullness of faith, the successors of the Apostles (the Magisterium) and the core traditions (Sacred Tradition) that preceded the full Bible are important. Not to mention it was this Church and their councils centuries later that produced, compiled and canonized the Christian New Testament that Protestants then proceeded to reduce by removing and delegitimizing the deuterocanomicals into apocrypha. And of course, without the true Church that Christ founded, Scripture can be twisted and misinterpreted countless ways. Hence why we have countless denominations today. Only the Catholic and Orthodox Churched can claim to descend from this Church which Christ Himself said would not fall.
@Murk_Matter
@Murk_Matter 9 ай бұрын
@@austromyrtusmost of the rosary is quotes from the bible
@sammygomes7381
@sammygomes7381 9 ай бұрын
@@austromyrtus Well said but I preferer the term Christian as protestant could mean a host of things.
@Angel268201
@Angel268201 9 ай бұрын
It ain’t ever gonna be fixed. Mary is in our spiritual DNA! Nobody is getting rid of Mary!
@luisbravo2135
@luisbravo2135 9 ай бұрын
Bro you couldn't be more on point!
@renaldoawes2210
@renaldoawes2210 9 ай бұрын
I fail to see how praying to Mary is the exclusive reasoning behind "being Christ like" lol. Like what a spin job this Catholic did.
@BradleyRansom-e4d
@BradleyRansom-e4d 8 ай бұрын
Look up the story of Fatima and Mary’s message to the world. We don’t pray to Mary, the rosary is a meditation on the mysteries and giving us a stronger relationship with Jesus.
@renaldoawes2210
@renaldoawes2210 8 ай бұрын
@@BradleyRansom-e4d Catholics DO pray to Mary. There's pages upon pages of Catholic apologetics about how Mary is our heavenly advocate who intercedes for us, which is the justification for why you pray TO Mary and not to Christ. Idk why you're trying to do some weird spin job and claim that "oh bro we're just meditating. We don't pray to Mary." That's completely false. Catholics love to lie about their faith when the truth is inconvenient. It's a cult, really. And just so you know, nobody has a problem with Mary. Nobody has an issue with Mary. Mary is wonderful. But the problem is when you start praying TO Mary and not to Christ. That's a problem. You've turned her into an idol.
@sammygomes7381
@sammygomes7381 8 ай бұрын
@@BradleyRansom-e4d Look up demons or Satan that comes as an angel of light. Satan invented the rosary and now millions worship a goddess and idol.
@Clanmackenzie
@Clanmackenzie 8 ай бұрын
@@BradleyRansom-e4dthat’s just not true man. Maybe you don’t, but many and most Catholics I meet do pray to Mary and ask her to intervene for them to Jesus. That’s just against everything in scripture and is idolatry no matter how Catholics try to spin it.
@raymondvasquez6967
@raymondvasquez6967 8 ай бұрын
@@Clanmackenzie What gives you this foolish idea?
@s.a.6082
@s.a.6082 8 ай бұрын
Such an amazing leap in logic. I applaud the mental gymnastics 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@Theonlyomahermit
@Theonlyomahermit 8 ай бұрын
I mean we all remember when Jesus said “Truly truly I say to you unless one is born of water and the Spirit and Mary and also the Pope, he cannot enter the kingdom of heaven.”
@violetd3487
@violetd3487 4 ай бұрын
@@s.a.6082 There's no leap in logic. There's only a leap in knowledge. You can't expect Catholicism to be explained to you in one podcast, let alone a YT short.
@stevenm4966
@stevenm4966 9 ай бұрын
The Word of God teaches us to pray/confess sins to the Father in the name of the Son, not to add to or edit the Word & not to communicate, pray to the departed. Dangerous, knowing that God will not share His Glory w/another while Satan aims to force Him through the church - even if it's w/Mary.
@chellybear3380
@chellybear3380 9 ай бұрын
Loving Mary as a sister in Christ is very difrent from praying to her or thinking she is our mother. She is not omnipresent or omnipotent. The Bible is clear that only God is omnipresent and omnipotent. She was also not born without sin. That would be ludicrous. Only Christ who was conceived of the Holy Spirit, Jesus who is God in the flesh, could ever be born without sin and live the perfect life in accordance to the law. That is how he died in our place and took on the sins of the world and granted us eternal life, by being perfect when all humans are in nature, imperfect and sinful. “All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God”. - Rom 3:23 There is not a single time where Christ presents Mary as our mother, or any verse in the Bible that says she was born without original sin. Christ never says we should pray to the angels and saints in heaven. Instead, He teaches us how to pray to our Father and he makes it clear that God is a jealous God, and we should not give anyone or anything the importance that is reserved for Him. Mary is not my savior, she is not my mother and she doesn't have any power without God, so I will not pray to her. Christ who is my savior, God who is my Father and listens to me when I pray, He who holds the world in his hands is who I will pray to and continue to put my focus on. I need nothing but Him ❤
@chrisb5958
@chrisb5958 9 ай бұрын
Indeed, Christ is our savior. But he came to us through Mary. It’s on fitting we go to Christ through Mary. It has been said that everything Jesus said and did during his three year ministry - if documented - would be much longer than the Bible itself. Jesus never said “read the Bible”. Nor did Jesus say “write this down.” Nor did Jesus write the Bible. He left the teachings to the Apostles to be carried out through evangelization and through Apostolic succession.
@chellybear3380
@chellybear3380 9 ай бұрын
@@chrisb5958 Deuteronomy 4:2 "Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the Lord your God that I give you." Revelation 22: 18-19 "I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll." The Bible is the inspired word of God. If you don't believe that, then you're not a true Christian. Eveything that is in it, is there for a reason. Everything that isn't in there, is also not there for a reason. When Jesus was tempted in the wilderness, he confronted the devil's manipulative tactics and abuse of scripture, with scripture itself. God's word is forever, it does not contradict itself and it is very clear. Nothing is to be added or removed. Taking things out of the Bible or adding to it would be deceitful and it just so happens to be one of the devil's tactics.
@chrisb5958
@chrisb5958 9 ай бұрын
@@chellybear3380 Yes, the Bible is the inspired word of God. This is what all Catholics believe, and the entire Catholic Mass is rooted in Scripture. Deuteronomy 4:2 serves to explain what cannot be added or subtracted to Mosaic law, but does not condemn authorized traditions. Other Old Testament books also serve to explain the law and commandments to be kept according to scripture and worship. In the book of the Apocalypse (Revelation), it is not intended to seal up the divine volume, so that nothing more shall be admitted into it since St. John wrote his gospel afterwards. But it must be explained in the same sense as this passage, and condemns all those who, of their own authority, would set up fresh doctrine in opposition to the word of God. I think you and I can both agree that it is not healthy for the body of Christ, that is us, to constantly divide ourselves up into new churches any time there is a fundamental disagreement over Sacred Scripture and Doctrine. This is the error of the Protestant faith. Not only did Luther remove seven books of the Old Testament, but also denied the authority of the Church over the interpretation of Sacred Scripture. Jesus never condemned traditions, which are meant to build a strong Christian culture that holds the body of Christ together. He established authority in the Church through the apostles. At that time, none of the New Testament had yet been written. The Apostles authored the Gospels, not only inspired by God but from the teachings of Christ Himself, and therefore the Apostles themselves knew the true interpretation of each verse we read in the Bible. If we stray from the teaching authority of the Church, we open the Bible up to our own interpretation, and the evidence is clear today where the are thousands of different denominations each with their own interpretation and way of worship. This keeps the body of Christ divided, and that really is where Satan wants us.
@sammygomes7381
@sammygomes7381 9 ай бұрын
@@chrisb5958 That is not the word of God. The bible tells us no one comes to Christ unless the Father gives us to Him.
@sammygomes7381
@sammygomes7381 9 ай бұрын
@@chrisb5958 The mass is not formed of the truth of scripture as neither Christ nor the apostles never said mass. Nor did the apostles ever teach we are to eat Christ as they understood the metaphor. You say Christ never condemned traditions so I have to guess you don't read the bible much. Matthew 15:3 But He answered them, “Why do you also violate the commandment of God by your tradition? Also, Luther didn't remove any books.
@nickcleland4579
@nickcleland4579 9 ай бұрын
Where did this clip come from? I want to watch the whole interview..
@danielkrcmar5395
@danielkrcmar5395 9 ай бұрын
Click onto the guys channel.
@benjaminwhitehead4050
@benjaminwhitehead4050 9 ай бұрын
He recorded it a few weeks ago and is waiting to premier it. Hopefully it will come out as soon as Tuesday
@friedawells6860
@friedawells6860 9 ай бұрын
It's from a recent Pints with Aquinas interview with a guy named Gabriel. He also has his own KZbin channel called GabiAfterHours, I would highly recommend it!
@royhughes2854
@royhughes2854 9 ай бұрын
@@benjaminwhitehead4050 It is taking like FOREVER!!!!! There are a whole bunch of Gabi subscribers biting at the bit for it to be released!!!!!
@benjaminwhitehead4050
@benjaminwhitehead4050 9 ай бұрын
@@royhughes2854 I've been wanting him to interview Gabi for a while now, I was so excited to see he did it. Can't wait for it to premier
@treechildu.s.a1953
@treechildu.s.a1953 9 ай бұрын
When Mary was waiting on Jesus wanting to see him as he was preaching parables in the Gospel of Luke (8:1-18): He was notified that his mother was waiting on him,and wanted to see him. Luke 8:21 “And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it. The short version: Christianity is following Jesus as closely as we can and believing in our HEARTS that he his who he says he is. While I have luke on my mind Jesus also says it best in Luke 9:23 GOD BLESS ALL WHO HAVE READ THIS!
@allenmcdonald1878
@allenmcdonald1878 9 ай бұрын
I don't have to pray to Mary to be forgiven, I am forgiven by Jesus Christ who was the only one on that cross which took away the sins of the world.
@Eloweezzy
@Eloweezzy 9 ай бұрын
Who’s praying TO Mary? We ask Mary to intercede on our behalf
@elle9082
@elle9082 9 ай бұрын
worship≠prayer. Worship is due to God alone and prayer in old english would mean “to ask” so it’s literally asking our family in heaven, the Mother of Jesus, our God, to intercede for us here on Earth. No one can love Mary more than Jesus did that’s why He’ll listen to her more and She was also the reason why Jesus did His first miracle, bcos of her simple request.
@richardounjian9270
@richardounjian9270 9 ай бұрын
Did you hear the word "forgiven " in this video?
@Southernstereotype
@Southernstereotype 9 ай бұрын
@@elle9082you are literally saying God loves one person above others. That is unbiblical.
@elle9082
@elle9082 9 ай бұрын
@@Southernstereotype I did not say that, so please stop putting words into my mouth. We are all called by God to be holy and be one with Him and be like Him. In Luke 1:28 it says “Hail Mary full of grace, the Lord is with you”, and this was said by the Archangel Gabriel to Mary. Full of grace means highly favored so it is true that God do have chosen people for His salvific plan. Also Mary have said in her Magnificat in Luke 1:46-55 that all nations shall call her blessed, which we billions of Catholics all over the world have been doing for the longest time already. Where can we find intercession of the saints in the scripture? Here you go: Those who have already passed this earthly life and also lived a holy life are now one with God and much more alive than us here on earth since they have the eternal life and God is the God of the living, not of the dead. Acts 9:13,32,41; 26:10; 1 Cor. 6:1-2; 14:33; 2 Cor. 1:1; 8:4; 9:1-2; 13:13; Rom. 8:27; 12:23; 15:25,26, 31; 16:2,15; Eph. 1:1,15,18; 3:8; 5:3; 6:18; Phil. 1:1; 4:22; Col 1:2,4,26; 1 Tm 5:10; Philemon 1:5,7; Heb. 6:10; 13:24; Jude 1:3; Rev. 11:18; 13:7; 14:12; 16:6; 17:6;18:20,24; Rev 19:8; 20:9 - in these verses, we see that Christians still living on earth are called “saints.” Matt. 27:52; Eph. 2:19; 3:18; Col. 1:12; 2 Thess. 1:10; Rev. 5:8; 8:3-4; 11:18; 13:10 - in these verses, we also see that “saints” also refer to those in heaven who are united with us. As a side note, we read in Daniel chapter 4, verse 13, I saw in the visions of my head as I lay in bed, and behold, a watcher, a holy one, came down from heaven. and in verse 23, And whereas the king saw a watcher, a holy one, coming down from heaven... that the Angels in Heaven are given the same Hebrew word “qaddiysh” which is used for human saints, again emphasizing the unity of all those in Heaven, angelic or human.
@huwfulcher
@huwfulcher 9 ай бұрын
This is why I can’t take a lot of Catholic apologists seriously. Such massive leaps in logic
@alexanderkempf9828
@alexanderkempf9828 8 ай бұрын
Exactly. His logic is that becoming like Christ is a major aspect of Christianity, therefore, we should all love Mary. That’s a major non sequitur.
@SurveyingStudy
@SurveyingStudy 8 ай бұрын
They are part of those we need to witness to.
@saigebasil2285
@saigebasil2285 8 ай бұрын
Agreed.
@raymondvasquez6967
@raymondvasquez6967 8 ай бұрын
@theangry7977 Misses the mark.
@raymondvasquez6967
@raymondvasquez6967 8 ай бұрын
It's because Protestantism dumbs things down. Very easy to pick and choose with bible verses that mean anything you want it to mean. 40,000+ Protestant opinions each with bad theology gets you nothing but a show and tell. St. Thomas Aquinas really set the tone for faith and reason coexisting. Have a watch of this and guaranteed, most sola scriptura and sola fide denominations won't be able to do this.
@purelife9000
@purelife9000 Ай бұрын
I've lived decades without a relationship with a DEAD WOMAN, but I have a relationship with a LIVING SAVIOR, and I've been just fine. Keep your corpse. I'll take the resurrected One.
@TheSureFire
@TheSureFire 9 ай бұрын
There is nothing wrong with loving Mary, but the moment you start kneeling down to a statue of Mary and start praying to Mary directly as if she were God, is thee problem with Catholicism…
@Jup-g4n
@Jup-g4n 9 ай бұрын
Neither of you do not know what idol worship is in the context of scripture if you truly use this claim against catholics this way. "HUR DUR, you bow to statues." How Ignorant you are to not see the true faith with the Eucharist and artistic representation of our savior and redeemer. Statues, Icons, Stained Glass Windows, these things are not condemned in scripture. Only the worship of foreign deities which are actually demons. That does not apply to Jesus, or Mother Mary. You need to understand that paganism was rampant in the early days of the church, especially in later centuries. In context, when people worshipped idols, they believed the idol in question to be thing they were Worshipping, that they were the idol, not merely a representation of the infinite being of God, his son and the Blessed Mother. That's part of the reason why idol worship was wrong, such as that of the golden calf, they believed in something that wasn't Godly. Catholics are allowed to have statues because it is Godly to have representations of Christ and the Blessed Virgin Mary to keep in mind how they may look(most depictions of Jesus are not tooo far away from the Shroud of Turin's depiction). The verses in the Bible do not condemn the Veneration of our Blessed Mother, Saints, or Jesus through a representation via a statue. Though, you don't have to kiss the statues, nobody makes you do that. But you need to understand that many catholics see statues as a way for Jesus to be more present, even if he's present everywhere. It's a way to see how Jesus may look Jesus even if we can't sew him. The problem you guys, is your focused on earthly matters which is exactly what Jesus does not want you to do. The statue is not what matters, it's our Love for God, Jesus, and his mother, and the saints and angels, especially our Guardian Angel whom watches over all of us. Even you guys, you all have a Guardian Angel you can ask for help and thank. Just know your church was not started by Jesus, but rather by men. That's all Protestant churches. Only catholics can say that, and Jews to an Extent, but they're different because they don't recognize Jesus's sacrifice on the cross for all humanity.
@bkmartinez123
@bkmartinez123 9 ай бұрын
We do not worship her. Please research this before spreading more misinformation. She was human without sin. What an example of pure faith she was. Blessings to you and yours. ❤
@jacobk4487
@jacobk4487 9 ай бұрын
@user-xy4dw5bu7g Exodus 20:4-5 ERV “You must not make any idols. Don’t make any statues or pictures of anything up in the sky or of anything on the earth or of anything down in the water. Don’t worship or serve idols of any kind, because I, the LORD, am your God. I hate my people worshiping other gods. People who sin against me become my enemies, and I will punish them. And I will punish their children, their grandchildren, and even their great-grandchildren Period none at all 0 zitz, nada, not even a cross around your neck, it's still idealizing. For we are the temple.
@rsmith5244
@rsmith5244 8 ай бұрын
​​This is what God said to Moses. "You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in the heavens above, in the earth believe, or in the waters beneath. You shall not bow down to them or worship them." Did you read in the story of Moses where God instructs Moses to place carvings of two cherubim on the Ark of the Covenant? Did God change His mind about idols? No, because the angels were not idols! Did Moses bow down and worship the angels? No. The problem is not with a carving or statue. God is forbidding the WORSHIP of false gods. It was a pagan world. People worshipped pagan gods, like Baal, and made idols and bowed down and worshipped them. Catholics do not worship Mary. They do not place her on the same level as God and Jesus. We do not place her above God and Jesus as I have seen people in these comments claim. Protestants need to stop falsely accusing Catholics of idolatry. It's calumny and totally untrue. Stop judging and condemning. God knows our hearts and our intentions. You don't, so don't bring judgement on yourself by falsely accusing us of sin. I recommend a video by Brian Holdsworth, a convert to Catholicism. It's called Ten Stupid Things Protestants Say to Catholics. This is one of them. Maybe you will understand if you hear a former Protestant explain it to you. Whether you accept it or not, stop judging and condemning Catholics and focus on yourself. @@jacobk4487
@jacobk4487
@jacobk4487 8 ай бұрын
@rsmith5244 first off you keep calling me a Protestant. Which I'm not and then Explain to me why I have been told by multiple Catholics that you have to pray through Mary because since she was the mother of Jesus. Because the way I look at it is these Catholic. People that I'm talking about are falsifying your religion. Then so it's not me judging. I'm being told these things by people who claim to be Catholic. I met on ash Wednesday.
@listeriohollow7421
@listeriohollow7421 9 ай бұрын
You will be like God is the first temptation in the bible Genesis 3:4-5 (NIV): "The serpent said to the woman, 'You will not surely die. For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened,** and you will be like God**, knowing good and evil.'". Christ came to save not make us deities. Being one with christ refers to the intimate spiritual union between believers and Jesus Christ in Christian theology. It signifies a deep and personal relationship with Christ, where individuals are united with him in faith, purpose, and identity. John 17:21, Galatians 2:20
@mugglesarecooltoo
@mugglesarecooltoo 9 ай бұрын
Good comment.
@Christ.ourlight
@Christ.ourlight 9 ай бұрын
Being like Christ… like GOD just means having his qualities… his love and holiness
@benG3483
@benG3483 9 ай бұрын
Nobody said anyone has a problem with Mary. That’s not the point. You can’t put yourself, Mary, or anyone else on the level of Christ. Hail Mary? No. Did Jesus exalt or tell anyone to exalt Mary over anyone else? No. By this logic we should hold Judas in the same light as Mary. As crucial as Mary was to Jesus assignment. So was Judas
@shannonabeywardena7323
@shannonabeywardena7323 9 ай бұрын
Thank you, Gabi!!!!
@nathanielsprague1031
@nathanielsprague1031 9 ай бұрын
Deification of humanity is the goal of Christ, but how does that transition to Mary? I mean she was a great and holy woman but she wasn't our mediator. Christ is our mediator.
@Tyranitar-hd6hi
@Tyranitar-hd6hi 9 ай бұрын
She is the Theotokos
@deusvult8340
@deusvult8340 9 ай бұрын
You become one with Christ and therefore take Mary as your mother since she is His mother
@luke9747
@luke9747 9 ай бұрын
I agree with the Deusvult! God's plan for us involves Mary intimately. When Jesus is presented in the temple for circumcision, the man there (Simon? Simeon?) Prophesies that he will suffer many things. Then he also says the "Mary's heart shall also be pierced so that the hearts of men may be lain bare." This means that by virtue of her sufferings, she brings our hearts to God. This is the same concept that St. Paul uses when he says "I make up for what is lacking in the sufferings of Christ, for your sake." Meaning that what Christ did for us comes to us through Paul suffering for the gospel, and the same thing is with Mary, and she is the pinnacle of bringing us the merits of Christ's death. This is also symbolized in the ark of the Covenant. Christ comes to us through the womb of Mary, and that is how he comes into our lives. At the wedding feast of Cana the servers came to Mary, and she brought them to Jesus and said "Do whatever Jesus tells you." Also, my favorite one is in Genesis God says to the snake that He will put enmity between the snake and the woman and they will do battle. Mary battles satan for our souls, as she is our mother
@daenithriuszanathos9306
@daenithriuszanathos9306 9 ай бұрын
The goal of Christ isn't just the deification of some nebulous humanity; it's the theosis of every individual. Even if it's just you who are to be deified, He would do what He did for you. However, don't mistake deification as "becoming another god" or something separate from God. Deification is having your will, your very being, fully conformed with God. That includes honouring His mother, whom He deigned to honour by choosing her to be His mother. That includes loving His mother, whom He loves as His very own. Mary isn't just a "great and holy woman", though she is that. Among all of humanity, she is uniquely intimate with Our Lord and Saviour and He with her. By her "yes", she became intimately connected with the very life of the Trinity. No other human in history will have that honour. If we're not afraid to laud various people as "the greatest of all time" in their respective professions, why are we so hesitant to honour Mary as THE greatest of ALL TIME among ALL women, indeed all creatures? The resistance just seems odd and inconsistent to me.
@jackedvette8258
@jackedvette8258 9 ай бұрын
@@deusvult8340where in the Bible does it say this.
@paulmcbride2337
@paulmcbride2337 9 ай бұрын
This is the best explanation I’ve heard in a long time
@markencalada533
@markencalada533 9 ай бұрын
In fact Mary was the first Christian and Jesus the first Marian.
@donesixfour
@donesixfour Ай бұрын
Marian is wild
@kidaz
@kidaz 9 ай бұрын
She was wonderful. But the logic doesn't track. Yes the goal is to be like Christ. And to call Mary mother as a consequence is a weird logical leap. Protestants do understand, in my experience, way more so, that we are to walk like Christ.
@void0350
@void0350 9 ай бұрын
She is the god bearer, i mean alone for this fact one should hold her very high. No one is saying she is god, but she was the Mother of the living God. For only her pact with God, Jesus was born. Hallelujah
@savestheday6648
@savestheday6648 9 ай бұрын
Christian means little Christ. If we are emulating Christ in every way, as Christians, we must inherently love our mother don't you see? The mystical body of Christ includes those in the kingdom of Heaven and Earth. I will teach you, if you want to learn?
@almalozano1783
@almalozano1783 2 ай бұрын
Dont be Hypocrites, You don't Love Mary, you don't believe in her Perpetual Virginity If you Loved Mary you would defend her against all slander, on the contrary you Offend her and her Son Jesus And nobody loves Her more than Jesus He who Serves me My Father Glorifies!!! John 12:26 Jesus wills to Glorify Mary!! But Heretics don't want to understand that
@mctinacarrillo
@mctinacarrillo 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this videos even some of our brothers and sisters in Christ were arguing. Keep posting GOD Bless you.
@Angel268201
@Angel268201 9 ай бұрын
We ALL need Mary! She’s our mother; how could we NOT love her. Do we think we love our earthly moms more than Jesus loved His? Now that’s really arrogant! Love Mary and she’ll take you directly to her son. Treat her right! She more than deserves it! ✝️🙏🏻♥️♥️♥️🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
@jackedvette8258
@jackedvette8258 9 ай бұрын
Mary was a human, no man shall enter the kingdom of heaven accept through Jesus. Mary is not God and does not have God like powers. That’s idolatry. Where in the Bible does it say to worship or pray to Mary? Or is there a Bible made up differently you guys have that says so.
@ramuelingibraltar802
@ramuelingibraltar802 9 ай бұрын
​@jackedvette8258 Who came together as one to give you Jesus? Mary + Holy Ghost= Jesus. Mary is spouse of the Holy Ghost. So you insult the Holy Ghost. Mary is shrine of the Holy Trinity. You insult the shrine of the Holy Trinity. Mary is Mother of the word incarnate. You insult the word of God that was made flesh in Mary. Jesus said Behold thy Mother to John and behold thy son to Mary.John took her into his house. Jesus is the living word which means that scripture is still alive and effective right now. If you died for me in battle and your mother was a widow; understand that your mother has a home with me and all generations from my family will call your mother blessed because of your mother's sacrifice to raise a child that will eventually die for me. Catholics have that real love for Jesus. I'll pray to the Virgin Mary to pray for you. People insult the Holy Ghost and don't even know it. By the way the word Bible is Latin. It's pronounced Bee-bleh. Sancta Bible- Holy Book. Go home to Rome for the official Christian religion.
@ramuelingibraltar802
@ramuelingibraltar802 9 ай бұрын
​@@jackedvette8258Who owns the Holy Cross of Jesus? Catholic Church. Who owns the crown of thorns? Catholic Church. Who owns the Shroud of Turin? Catholic Church. Who owns the Veil of Veronica? Catholic Church. Who owns the wedding ring of Mary from Joseph? Catholic Church. Who owns the Holy House of Loretto?(House of Mary and Joseph)Catholic Church. Whats at every place in Jerusalem where Jesus taught, performed miracles? A Catholic Church. What's at every place where the Apostles evangelized and were martyred or died? A Catholic Church. Poor Protestants. Would you take me serious if I told you I was a Sola Scriptora Navy Seal? I don't acknowledge the US government as authority but I just read the US Navy Seal training manual. Sounds ridiculous right? That's what all Protestants look like to me.
@jackedvette8258
@jackedvette8258 9 ай бұрын
@@ramuelingibraltar802 he actually never preached in Catholic Church lol. Wasn’t even established then. And all that means nothing. Who do you confess your sins to answer that because you know so much that’s a simple question
@jackedvette8258
@jackedvette8258 9 ай бұрын
@ale21424 answer my question it’s simple yes or no
@me-ds2il
@me-ds2il 9 ай бұрын
I saw her decades ago. Long before I knew who they were. Therefore I know they came from God & returned to God and are alive in God. Anyone can accuse me of whatever they like but no one can fault me for revering Mary
@sammygomes7381
@sammygomes7381 9 ай бұрын
God can, and will. He is a jealous God.
@me-ds2il
@me-ds2il 9 ай бұрын
@@sammygomes7381 Wtf U talkin' 'bout?
@sammygomes7381
@sammygomes7381 9 ай бұрын
@@me-ds2il I am guessing by your language your Catholic. Telling a priest about will not help, only God forgives sin. I am talking about your worshipping Mary with prayer calling her the mother of God. God is a jealous God.
@me-ds2il
@me-ds2il 9 ай бұрын
@@sammygomes7381 You really haven't a clue what Christianity is about. Therefore you can't tell me anything about it. So go take a walk
@me-ds2il
@me-ds2il 9 ай бұрын
You really haven't a clue what Christianity is about. Therefore you can't tell anything about it. So go take a walk.
@ChrisC-sv3rl
@ChrisC-sv3rl Ай бұрын
Well, the problem is, Mary is not elevated to any special status in scripture. Remember that Noah found grace in the eyes of God, but do we pray to him? Do rituals for him? Anything? No. Joseph is Jesus' adoptive father. Do we do anything because of his earthly adoptive father? Prayers? Rituals? No. Is Mary mentioned anywhere concerning how to love God in scripture? No. Do we pray to God through Jesus and only Jesus? Yes. Does Jesus tell his apostles, disciples or do the apostles tell us to do anything at all regarding Mary? Not in the slightest. 0 scripture. Its a made up tradition, just like Pharisee traditions.
@eddysumlin7735
@eddysumlin7735 9 ай бұрын
On judgment day Jesus not Mary will judge everybody by their heart. That's good. So many different denominations with different ways to get to heaven and hell. But Jesus paid the price to get to be judge. He's got this
@Ainoran123
@Ainoran123 9 ай бұрын
And Mary will be there interceding for us
@listeriohollow7421
@listeriohollow7421 9 ай бұрын
​@@Ainoran123Romans 8:34 (NIV): "Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died-more than that, who was raised to life-is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us." Hebrews 7:25 (NIV): "Therefore he is able to save completely those who come to God through him, because he always lives to intercede for them."
@mugglesarecooltoo
@mugglesarecooltoo 9 ай бұрын
​@@listeriohollow74211Tim2:5-6 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time.
@jacobpodolsky2649
@jacobpodolsky2649 9 ай бұрын
As a Protestant I have great admiration towards Mary than I ever had before but to make her into something she isn’t, this goes outside of the perimeters of Scripture and ancient Christian tradition. As important as the person of Mary is Jesus doesn’t need any help interceding for his people and doesn’t ask in anyway to help him with that great task. If Jesus was sinless (which he was) then Mary’s ability to intercede for sinners would have to be sinless herself. This doesn’t make sense it was through a lineage of sinner in the Davidic line of Judah that brought forth the sinless lamb of God. For what reason? Exactly. To live a perfect life die a death we deserved, even Mary since she was a sinner though righteous as a sinner under the curse of the law. That needed to be redeemed herself.
@friedawells6860
@friedawells6860 9 ай бұрын
No one is saying that Mary is somehow elevated above God or will usurp Christ as judge over mankind. You guys are looking at this with a mindset of insecurity and jealousy as if any love and honor given to Mary is somehow honor taken away from God, that is how the devil thinks, that is not how God thinks. God is not insecure, rather He is so secure that He has given us complete free will to choose Him or reject Him, and rather than forcing His glory unto us, God chooses to be glorified through those who choose Him and who do his will. Just like He is glorified through His servant David, he is glorified through Mary who accepted to give birth to Christ. Moreover, Mary knew from the old prophecies and from Simeon (see Luke 2:34-35) that the Christ would suffer and would die and she lived with that knowledge all her life and stood at the foot of cross. When Jesus on the cross said to the beloved disciple "Behold your mother." This is what was meant: that she was our mother and she would guide us to heaven.
@chicka341
@chicka341 9 ай бұрын
Mary isn’t omnipresent so she can’t do anything for anyone on earth neither can she hear anyone but the people she is in the kingdom with. Mary did her job on earth, her only job now is to be constantly in the presence of God. The only one who can bring you closer to Jesus is Jesus. He wants the one on one relationship with you! Read Luke 11:27-28 this shows he knew people would try to use Mary and he points back to himself. He says “I am the way the truth and life, NO-ONE gets to the father EXCEPT through me.” There is no person nor work that will get you everlasting life just Jesus himself.
@dianeweaver930
@dianeweaver930 9 ай бұрын
Same thing Mary is telling us. Do what He tells you.
@courtneye4789
@courtneye4789 9 ай бұрын
This was such an AMAZING interview
@voltio231988
@voltio231988 9 ай бұрын
We don't need Mary, we need Jesus. It's all about Jesus and He is the only way to heaven read the Bible
@dianeweaver930
@dianeweaver930 9 ай бұрын
We do need Mary. ❤️
@voltio231988
@voltio231988 9 ай бұрын
@@dianeweaver930 according to who? Because all we need is Jesus that's it, He's the only intercessor, He's the only way to heaven, Jesus is God, and the one who died on the cross for us. All things are possible through Jesus not mary or anyone else.
@tpoy1274
@tpoy1274 9 ай бұрын
@@voltio231988That’s why we should also throw out the Old Testament. We don’t need Moses or the prophets or the kings of Israel. We only need Jesus.
@voltio231988
@voltio231988 9 ай бұрын
@@tpoy1274 if you throw out the old testament might as well throw out the Bible. We need both old and new, how else are people going to know how everything began and Jesus's story and so much more. Either way it's God's word so throwing anything away is not an option, the whole scriptures was inspired by God not just the new testament. In our walk on this earth we only need Jesus because all things are possible through Him no one else, those who read the Bible know this.
@tpoy1274
@tpoy1274 9 ай бұрын
@@voltio231988 But the Gospels tell the story of Jesus Christ from his conception to his ascension. That’s who I need to know about, not the story of the lives of mere humans like Abraham, Moses, Samuel, David, Isaiah, Ezra, etc. “There is (only) one mediator between God and man.” I don't have to get to God through their stories when I can go directly to God's story through the New Testament.
@atgred
@atgred 9 ай бұрын
Psalms‬ ‭45:9-17 “Kings' daughters were among thy HONORABLE women: upon thy right hand did stand the QUEEN (Rev. 12) in gold of Ophir. Hearken, O daughter, and consider, and incline thine ear; forget also thine own people, and thy father's house; So shall the KING GREATLY DESIRE THY BEAUTY: for HE IS THY LORD; and worship thou him (only). And the daughter of Tyre shall be there with a gift (Lk. 1:28); even the rich among the people shall ENTREAT THY FAVOUR (intercession). The king's daughter is all GLORIOUS WITHIN (immaculate): her clothing is of wrought gold. SHE shall be brought unto the king in raiment of needlework: the virgins (religious women) her companions that follow her shall be brought unto thee. With gladness and rejoicing shall they be brought: they shall enter into the king's palace (heaven). Instead of thy fathers shall be thy children (mother of the christians) whom thou mayest make princes (bishops) in all the earth. I WILL make THY NAME to be REMEMBERED IN ALL GENERATIONS (Lk. 1:48) therefore shall the people PRAISE THEE FOR EVER AND EVER.”
@savannahfan
@savannahfan 9 ай бұрын
Mary IS Biblical
@jacobortega3424
@jacobortega3424 9 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s not talking about Mary. Lolol
@sammygomes7381
@sammygomes7381 9 ай бұрын
@@savannahfan Mary is biblical and was called blessed. DO you know how many other people in the bible were called blessed? What Mary was NOT called in the bible was Immaculate, perpetual virgin, assumed, queen of heaven, the new Eve, the new covenant, mother of God
@savannahfan
@savannahfan 9 ай бұрын
@@sammygomes7381 So…? Here is the thing you have to understand. Listen closely Nothing in the Bible specifically and unquestionably denies any of those things you mentioned. Which means YOU have zero credibility to claim otherwise Catholics and Orthodox on the other hand, have both Sacred Tradition. AND a unbroken line of Apostolic successorship that gives OuR CHURCH the legitimacy to determine that which is authentic and what is not You don’t Why do you think Protestant leadership makes such an effort to attack Catholic/Orthodox beliefs, like veneration of our Lady…? Because they don’t want people like you to start asking questions about your own beliefs Let me explain how it works. Sacred Tradition and Apostolic Authority helped define the belief in the Trinity, which isn’t exactly spelled out in Scripture… But is true Your need to dishonor and demean our Lady is corrupted thinking. Unless you have incontrovertible proof she was not a Virgin, not Assumed into Heaven, or not immaculately conceived I’d recommend you not start saying things about our Savior’s Mother (just because you dislike Catholics) That’s dumb Mary is easily the most important Woman in the Bible, she is a shining example of humility and sacrifice to God’s Will, She was closer to and was the best eyewitness of our Savior’s life than any other Disciple. She alone was MOST blessed of ALL Women, FULL of Grace AND the Holy Spirit, and CHOSEN BY GOD If those things alone don’t give you reason to treat her in a veryspecial manner, then I guess your dislike of Catholics is far more important to you than your Love for her Son Just saying. You might want to reconsider
@savannahfan
@savannahfan 9 ай бұрын
@@sammygomes7381 ahhh. I think you are mistaking my Church with what you attend 🤔 Let me explain. Unless something is incontrovertibly and undeniably in direct conflict with what is in the Bible… which NONE of the things you listed are Then you have ZERO legitimacy to argue against what Catholics/Orthodox believe. Because WE have Sacred Tradition AND Apostolic Authority (handed down through history) as the successors to the Early Church You don’t What that means, is WE can legitimately decide what is correct, and how scripture and tradition should be interpreted. You can’t. That’s why your leadership is always attacking Catholics, because they are afraid people like you might realize someday they don’t have any real legitimacy I know it sounds harsh, but it’s true. Take the Trinity for example. Scripture doesn’t exactly spell things out in regard to that key Belief, but OUR Predecessors determined it to be TRUTH. Strange you are willing to accept that, but not worthy veneration of our Lady,!literally the most important Woman in the Bible As for your insults towards our Lady, I’d quickly reconsider if I were you. Your bias and dislike of Catholics, doesn’t make dishonoring our Savior’s Mother a smart thing to do. Unless you had iron clad evidence that she was not a Virgin, Assumed into Heaven, or Immaculately Conceived… I wouldn’t say so. Don’t let your insecurities about your own Faith prompt you to attack ours. That’s not just unnecessary, it serves the Enemy Just saying. Peace be with you
@markencalada533
@markencalada533 9 ай бұрын
Salute 🫡 👼🏻 Kecharitomene (Highly Graced) Mary Mother of Jesus. Makes her my Mother as Cristian Catholic forever 🙏🏼
@OneVoiceMore
@OneVoiceMore 9 ай бұрын
Point missed --- Catholics PRAY to Mary, and that defies Christianity, period.
@DoctorDewgong
@DoctorDewgong 9 ай бұрын
Catholics created Christianity, so they get to decide what's Christian and what's not.
@raymondvasquez6967
@raymondvasquez6967 8 ай бұрын
What silo do you live in? Christians since the beginning have always prayed to Mary and the Saints. Only recently have they stopped due to the Protestant revolt against God that echoes Satan's "I will not serve."
@hcro5
@hcro5 9 ай бұрын
"If you have a problem with Mary, you have a problem with Christ's goal for Christianity." No Catholic sees anything wrong with what he said? Keep in mind how he strawmaned the opposing non Catholic view
@IndianaJonesTDH
@IndianaJonesTDH 9 ай бұрын
Its a good point but completely wrong topic tbh
@StringofPearls55
@StringofPearls55 9 ай бұрын
Just because a Protestant says something about a Catholic doesn't make it so and vise versa. For example, it looks like Protestants are just looking for a savior that fits with what they want to believe. They church shop, they have disagreements and start their own churches, there's are hundreds if not thousands of different denominations all teaching something different. They can't agree on salvation, baptism, abortion, birth control, marriage and divorce. It's a chaotic mess. Yet they all call themselves Christians...
@kellyarchani4209
@kellyarchani4209 9 ай бұрын
no , if you follow Mary you are not reading the BIBLE JESUS IS THE ONLY ONE that can help you or hear your prayers or forgive your sins.
@boomct8569
@boomct8569 9 ай бұрын
@@kellyarchani4209 Catholics don’t believe Mary can forgive sins. We never have. What we believe is because of scripture, not separate to it. We believe she is in heaven (Rev 12) and that she can intercede for us just like we can pray for one another. Just as we are told to do just before that ‘Christ only mediator’ verse. We believe all believers are alive in Christ and that those who are in heaven can pray for us. As Elijah (alive) was in conversation with Moses (dead in body but alive in Christ) and both were speaking to Jesus (Transfiguration) so are we all part of the body of Christ with neither life nor death separating us from the love of God. God is the God of the living, not the dead, as Jesus told us in 3 gospels! Mary is not God, nor do we consider her God. But since ‘the prayers of the righteous avail much’ just as it says in James 5:16 and that Mary was ‘kericharitomene’ - the Greek word meaning full of grace in past, present and future tense, the word only used once in the bible, she is definitely able to pray for us and her prayers avail much. We pray, God responds as He wills. Mary prays, God responds as He wills. It’s all about God! And God bless you.
@kellyarchani4209
@kellyarchani4209 9 ай бұрын
@@boomct8569 never said you did think Mary forgives sins. and again GOD said there is Only 1 mediator between us and GOD. you cant pray to Mary, that is NOT biblical, and its going against what GOD told you to do. No where in bible does GOD tell us to pray to anyone other than to GOD in Jesus name. you are not following the word of GOD is you are praying to anyone other than GOD/JESUS
@FranciscoMarcialA
@FranciscoMarcialA 9 ай бұрын
Shallow Christian here. I'll be in heaven because of Christ.
@jwhite5080
@jwhite5080 9 ай бұрын
And I would argue that catholics don't understand Christ. I'm much more interested in the person of Christ than the religion of Catholicism built around him. The one striking difference I have noticed in catholic vs protestant disagreements is that catholics ALWAYS defend Catholicism while protestants defend the very nature of Christ in his atoning work on the cross. That speaks volumes to me.
@heistbros8575
@heistbros8575 9 ай бұрын
Catholics always defend Catholicism because Protestants are constantly challenging Catholic beliefs. Catholicism goes much much deeper than any protestant sect in any field of theology.
@tbenedict8983
@tbenedict8983 9 ай бұрын
Catholics can partake daily to the re-enactment of His holy sacrifice on the cross, praising Jesus Christ as their savior and thanking him to let us be part of His mystical body aka the Church
@Jup-g4n
@Jup-g4n 9 ай бұрын
"And i would argue..." That's the problem with you Protestants. You place yourselves before God, and put your own interpretations of him first along your own selfish desires to appropriate Jesus as someone he is not to excuse your lack of worship or devotion. Most Protestants barely Venerate God through their rock concert services and pastors droning on, making themselves and their words the center instead of Jesus, even if they think mentioning Jesus in their sermons validates everything they say. This is a breaking of the first commandment, to put one's self before God. Only the Magisterium, a part of the church Jesus and his Apostles started, have the authority to interpret scripture. One interpretation, not 1000 and more personal depictions. The Gates of Hell will not prevail against the church. False Teachers are very openly condemned in scripture for a reason. Go read the book of James. The fruits of Protestantism ia disunity and variance. And the bible, which comes from the catholic church by the way, condemns both in scripture. And the bible was very clear about this, "You will know them by their fruits." Renounce your heresy and become catholic. There is no salvation outside the church. The Eucharist is the way to Jesus, through his body and Blood. REMEMBER THE LAST SUPPER, it isn't just a symbol. Jesus gave himself for us so that we may imitate him and be "saved through grace by faith, with works lest any man shall boast" as Paul stated.
@bkmartinez123
@bkmartinez123 9 ай бұрын
Catholicism was handed directly to us from Christ our Lord.
@justinx6498
@justinx6498 8 ай бұрын
​​​@@TrevorSmith-o3k If Paul rightfully could criticize Peter's actions towards the Gentiles in Galatians 2 and Peter is considered the First pope and the rock, then how are we wrong to criticize the current practices of the Current Popes and catholic church as a whole?...Imagine that Paul accepted Peter's actions as doctrine since Peter is the Pope or the rock...Jesus Christ is the standard by which we measure and test everything and if Jesus responded to the remark: "Blessed is the womb that bore you" in the Luke account by saying : " Rather blessed are those who do the will of the Father" ,then it clesrly shows that all our focus should be on Loving God with everything and loving our neighbors as ourselves, hence yes, we appreciated Mary and recognise that she was highly blessed and favoured, but not even John the Baptist whom Jesus said was the greatest amongst all the Prophets could see himself worthy to untie Jesus sandals let alone see himself deserving of any veneration, then why should we see mary as deserving such a veneration to the point of having churches, hyms and prayers dedicated to her. Also, if she had to be immaculate and withouth sin in order to conceive Jesus, doesn't that result in a recursive problem?...wherw her parents needed to be immaculate and withouth sin as well and on and on until Adam and Eve, but of course this is not possible since we know Adam and Eve sinned. So instead if God's grace made her sinless, why instead of applying such notions of sinful parents but sinless offspring applied to Mary don't you apply it to Jeus himself withouth the idea of Mary being immaculate!?...To think that the immaculate Mary was not made dogma is Catholicism until the 19th century. Also it wasn't really widely adooted until the 4th century in attempts to preserve the deity of Christ against heresies by the Catholic church
@TheBlinkyImp
@TheBlinkyImp 9 ай бұрын
Jesus loved his mother so we should all love his mother. Cool. Jesus also loves everybody, which is why we should love everybody. Makes sense. Now jump to 'you should pray to Mary more often than you pray to Jesus, and she is able to uniquely distribute grace and is even considered a co-redeemer with Jesus'. Wait did I miss a step?
@Stephenlibey
@Stephenlibey 9 ай бұрын
The teachings on Mary and the Eucharist is what brought me out of my protestant past. Praise be to You Lord Jesus Christ. Thank You for Your sacrifice. Thank You for the Church. Thank You for giving us such a wonderful mother! I pray for unity and peace for all people of good will.
@sammygomes7381
@sammygomes7381 9 ай бұрын
My friend, that is not Christianity, that is Catholicism. Christians follow the teachings of Christ, the word of God. Catholics follow the teaching of the Catholic church
@jacobortega3424
@jacobortega3424 9 ай бұрын
Amen!
@peterilnitsky7677
@peterilnitsky7677 9 ай бұрын
Catholics started off right, but now there going out of balance and are missing the point.
@ateam388
@ateam388 9 ай бұрын
We are Christians of the Catholic faith. You are a Christian of Protestantism.
@elle9082
@elle9082 9 ай бұрын
Christianity means to follow Christ and for us Catholics, Eucharist=Jesus is the summit of our lives. He is our God. He is center of everything. If you would go back to history, Christianity started with Catholic Christians, so please educate yourself better and stop with the false assumptions.
@sammygomes7381
@sammygomes7381 9 ай бұрын
@@elle9082 If one follows Christ maybe you could show us where Christ and the apostles said mass. When did Christ teach us to pray to someone other than the Father? Where did Christ teach a purgatory or that giving the church would get people out of purgatory. Where did Christ teach we are saved by the sacraments of the Catholic church? Of one would go back in history they would find that Jews were the first Christians and Catholicism was still hundreds of years away. Reading of the New Testament will reveal that the Catholic Church does not have its origin in the teachings of Jesus or His apostles. In the New Testament, there is no mention of the papacy, worship/adoration of Mary (or the immaculate conception of Mary, the perpetual virginity of Mary, the assumption of Mary, or Mary as co-redemptrix and mediatrix), petitioning saints in heaven for their prayers, apostolic succession, the ordinances of the church functioning as sacraments, infant baptism, confession of sin to a priest, purgatory, indulgences, or the equal authority of church tradition and Scripture. We are not saved by sacraments; we are saved by faith. As one can see the origin of the Catholic Church is not in the teachings of Jesus and His apostles.
@stevo8782
@stevo8782 9 ай бұрын
We do not need Mary. We need Christ and nothing else.
@SteubenThursday
@SteubenThursday 9 ай бұрын
Christ didn’t need her either but he loved and respected her so much he chose to use her to help him to honor her. You know better than him?
@GuadalupePicasso
@GuadalupePicasso 9 ай бұрын
You most certainly need Mary, as her yes to God through the archangel Gabriel is what made the incarnation possible, and thus made our salvation possible. God did not force His will upon Mary, but, as with all of us, He left her free to accept or reject it.
@annapennrose1158
@annapennrose1158 9 ай бұрын
Mary points to her Son as the Savior.
@joshuadyjak541
@joshuadyjak541 9 ай бұрын
Truth, brother!
@stevo8782
@stevo8782 9 ай бұрын
Some of you missed the point. We do not need Mary, Mary is replaceable. Christ is not replaceable. Mary doesn't get me into the loving arms of the father. Christ gets me into the loving arms of the father. Don't twist things to get what you want. I can appreciate having respect for the saints and Mary. But NONE of them are required to access the Father. Christ is the only one needed to access the Father.
@rachellink1451
@rachellink1451 9 ай бұрын
Watched this whole interview and it was great!!!❤
@alissamcdermott9636
@alissamcdermott9636 9 ай бұрын
Thank you Gabriel, for being the messenger for Mary. ❤
@isaiahdeck8747
@isaiahdeck8747 9 ай бұрын
When is this podcast coming out someone please tell me I am dying to know😭
@Mxswanson500
@Mxswanson500 9 ай бұрын
Gabriel announced win on his channel
@isaiahdeck8747
@isaiahdeck8747 9 ай бұрын
@@Mxswanson500 could you tell me the date? I can’t seem to find it on his channel
@Catholicmillennial
@Catholicmillennial 9 ай бұрын
@@isaiahdeck8747he said early April
@gman1550
@gman1550 9 ай бұрын
He’s describing Satans temptation in Eden: “You will be like God”
@donthephoneman7084
@donthephoneman7084 9 ай бұрын
Jesus Christ is the only way to Father!!! Jesus said “ My sheep hear My voice, and I know them , and they follow Me” If Mary were here today , She would be devastated and heartbroken to see the idolatry being done in Her name!
@SurprisedLabrador-gl6hy
@SurprisedLabrador-gl6hy 9 ай бұрын
The problem with PROTESTANT CHRISTIANS is that you were brainwashed by your founding fathers who had fooled you all to believe that Catholics worship Mary as divine. No one comes to the Father except through Jesus. And no one comes to Jesus without acknowledging His mother. You cannot know and be in intimate friendship and one with Christ without the immaculate Mary leading you to Him in the path of holiness and immaculate purity. YOU DO NOT SIT ON THE TABLE OF THE LORD JESUS AND THROW HIS MOTHER UNDER THE BUS.
@Lurkingdolphin
@Lurkingdolphin 9 ай бұрын
No I just have a problem with idolatry and how he people justify it .
@robis7238
@robis7238 9 ай бұрын
Better not love your own mother, cuz it might be idolatry then.
@litoaykiu
@litoaykiu 9 ай бұрын
I don’t worship my dead relatives; that’s an abomination!
@sonofman9404
@sonofman9404 9 ай бұрын
He speaks like a guilty criminal. He is an evil man to the core. I can see through his dirty antics.
@Lurkingdolphin
@Lurkingdolphin 9 ай бұрын
@@robis7238 complete straw man . I never said Jesus didn’t honor his parents if that’s what you mean . 2. Just because love your mother doesn’t you pray to her and start praising her and even worshiping or her or build statues 3, Mary isn’t my mother .
@Sebastian-jo7bn
@Sebastian-jo7bn 9 ай бұрын
​@@robis7238I respect my mom, not worship her. Either you're playing coy, or you're too vacuous to comprehend the cognitive dissonance in the way Catholics view Mary.
@RibeyeJonesey
@RibeyeJonesey 9 ай бұрын
Where does the Bible say we have to worship Mary or pray to her? I have read it several times and I don’t recall ever coming across that directive.
@1901elina
@1901elina 9 ай бұрын
I've also noticed Protestant focus on "faith alone" is just about how we're justified to heaven, nothing about sanctification. I love the Catholic church and faith as it gives me tools for the walk.
@austromyrtus
@austromyrtus 9 ай бұрын
Sanctification,being holy, is important to protestants. Tru believers all seek to live holy lives pleasing to God. The “ by faith alone” is about justification, but that does not mean works are not important- they are- but they are a response to loving God. Salvation not by works refers more to not being forgiven by paying money, not by going on crusades, not by repeating the Rosary and other such things that were pushed by the Roman church as ways to get to heaven, and to which the reformers objected.
@1901elina
@1901elina 9 ай бұрын
@@austromyrtus I've never heard of the Church saying you won't go to heaven for not doing any of what you've mentioned. These things are encouraged, but not necessary to get to heaven. Indulgences aren't about forgiveness btw they're to remit punishment for sin already forgiven in confession. And I haven't looked into it super deep but have heard that rather than the Church selling indulgences they were saying donating to such or another charity will grant you an indulgence. Still not good, and not something they do anymore, but not quite the same. As for the crusades, they were a centuries delayed response to brutal Islamic conquest and expansion and if it wasn't for them, we would all be under Sharia Law right now.
@sammygomes7381
@sammygomes7381 9 ай бұрын
Christians also focus on faith for salvation as it is the word of God. How are Catholics saved?
@sammygomes7381
@sammygomes7381 9 ай бұрын
@@austromyrtus Just to add, we are saved by the Holy Spirit as soon as we accept Christ as Lord and Savior. No water required; no works required. As a Christian the works we do is Christ working in us but were not required for salvation. The works are because of our salvation.
@sammygomes7381
@sammygomes7381 9 ай бұрын
@@1901elina Unless that confession was to God there is nothing forgiven.
@kasiaseubert
@kasiaseubert 9 ай бұрын
I am dying to watch this entire interview 😭
@rickandrygel913
@rickandrygel913 8 ай бұрын
"You will be like God" -the serpent in the garden
@joshuadyjak541
@joshuadyjak541 9 ай бұрын
Essence of Christianity so we can become like Christ...this is why we need Mary🤦well... no, actually. We have a relationship with Christ so we can be like Christ. Mary has nothing to do with the Holy Spirit's work in our sanctification. This is not doctrinally or Scripturally supported. I'd genuinely wait for an explanation
@mediatrixsolutions
@mediatrixsolutions 9 ай бұрын
If you are a member of the body of Christ… who is the mother of the body of Christ???
@mediatrixsolutions
@mediatrixsolutions 9 ай бұрын
The body of Christ is formed by the holy spirit in the womb of Mary… it has everything to do with you becoming like Christ.
@joshuadyjak541
@joshuadyjak541 9 ай бұрын
@@mediatrixsolutions where does the Bible say there needs to be a mother?
@joshuadyjak541
@joshuadyjak541 9 ай бұрын
@@mediatrixsolutions the "Body of Christ" isn't a literal, physical body. It's a figurative meaning. What does Mary's womb have to do with it? I don't want to become like Mary, I want to become like Christ.
@vinciblegaming6817
@vinciblegaming6817 9 ай бұрын
@@joshuadyjak541NEEDS to be? Question, seriously… what is the deal with rejecting ALL the temporal help God has given us? God does not need them to do his thing. The problem is, we largely need these helps in persevering in our faith and the mission he calls us to. Baptism is a physical act that results in a spiritual grace because we are not purely abstract being capable of pure abstraction. We are physical beings that God created that way. So why do you reject ALL physical gifts that God has given us? That includes THE CHURCH. And the saints do not seize to be the church when they depart earth. They are still a help to us. Because God is good and knows what WE need.
@CherryDreamer96
@CherryDreamer96 9 ай бұрын
They don't understand Christianity... very true and convicting. I'm afraid to say I was once one of those people, I thought Catholics /Orthodox weren't Christians, they worshipped Mary, Mary was just a woman who had no connection to us today. She was only mentioned at Christmas , or perhaps in a sermon about obedience. But through the grace of God he opened my eyes and wow... just wow. It's genuinely devastating how much of the Faith Protestants are missing out on... They just totally miss the point
@sammygomes7381
@sammygomes7381 9 ай бұрын
Christians understand Christianity as is the reason they follow Christ, not the Catholic church. If you think God opened your eyes to worship Mary you're in for a big surprise.
@CherryDreamer96
@CherryDreamer96 9 ай бұрын
@@sammygomes7381 that is absolutely not what I'm saying saying and I'm not Catholic either. Worship is for God alone, always.
@Veritas231
@Veritas231 9 ай бұрын
They totally miss the point. I did too when i was protestant. They like to strip Christianity down the the bare bones and focus on only that. Its like God offering us a full banquet at the wedding feast. He tells us all of this is for you to enjoy. And the protestant chooses the best looking platter, well done. But then He judges the Catholic or Eastern Orthodox for enjoying EVERYTHING God has given to us.
@sammygomes7381
@sammygomes7381 9 ай бұрын
@@CherryDreamer96 My apologies, I guess I didn't understand your last sentence.
@sammygomes7381
@sammygomes7381 9 ай бұрын
@@Veritas231 That's why I encourage Protestants to be come Christians and follow Christ. Let me know where God gave the following teaching to the Catholic church. Catechism of the Catholic church 966 "Finally the Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all stain of original sin, when the course of her earthly life was finished, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory, and exalted by the Lord as Queen over all things, so that she might be the more fully conformed to her Son, the Lord of lords and conqueror of sin and death." The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin is a singular participation in her Son's Resurrection and an anticipation of the resurrection of other Christians: In giving birth you kept your virginity; in your Dormition you did not leave the world, O Mother of God, but were joined to the source of Life. You conceived the living God and, by your prayers, will deliver our souls from death.
@ivanbates6302
@ivanbates6302 9 ай бұрын
My boy broke out Theosis!!! Haha love it. As an Eastern Orthodox Christian I love this brothers. Always a fantastic channel!
@dandugo2020
@dandugo2020 9 ай бұрын
Such a great lie. And a diversion from the question asked.
@-Viva-Cristo-Rey
@-Viva-Cristo-Rey 9 ай бұрын
The only lie is that Mary is not powerful. Mary is the mediatrix of grace and those who commit great offences towards her are guilty of sin.
@ianbradley4712
@ianbradley4712 9 ай бұрын
@@-Viva-Cristo-Rey ”For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,“ ‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭2‬:‭5‬ ‭ ”Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.“ ‭‭John‬ ‭14‬:‭6‬ ‭ There is no other mediator between God and man other than Christ. To suggest anything otherwise is blatant heresy.
@jasonstangeland9395
@jasonstangeland9395 9 ай бұрын
@@ianbradley4712 So why do Christians pray for others? Is praying for others wrong? Can’t those people just pray to Jesus themselves?
@cta4547
@cta4547 9 ай бұрын
​@@jasonstangeland93955 When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralyzed man, “Son, your sins are forgiven.” Mark 2:5
@ianbradley4712
@ianbradley4712 9 ай бұрын
@@jasonstangeland9395 That’s not what I or the verses are saying at all. It’s saying that the only person we can call upon to intercede for us when we pray is Jesus Christ. NO ONE but Christ can go before God with our prayers. Mary cannot go to God for us with our prayers nor can any of the saints. I absolutely believe in praying both for ourselves and for others, I do it very often, but Jesus (and nobody but Him) is the one taking those prayers to God.
@jltotheb5550
@jltotheb5550 9 ай бұрын
or in another way of words.... "im to afraid to have a true one to one relationship with you Jesus so i want to go to your mom"
@Robusquet
@Robusquet 8 ай бұрын
- Mom, what are we eating tonight? - Don't ask your mother what you can ask me. - But, dad, you put her in charge of the kitchen...
@Polycubism
@Polycubism 8 ай бұрын
Can you explain the underlying point behind this analogy
@jaykay4541
@jaykay4541 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, what precisely is Mary “in charge of”?? Christ says he is the intercessor to the Father. No where in the Bible are we told to go to Mary to get to the Father.
@Robusquet
@Robusquet 7 ай бұрын
@@jaykay4541 Christ is the only way to the Father, and the only bread of life (Eucharist) - which destroys all religions. Mary has led more people to her Son by her intercession than all the missionaries (for obvious reasons). Since you're not a Catholic, you didn't get access to what she's done. You could start with the apparition of La Salette, 1846. Mind blowing info.
@joeykumar5165
@joeykumar5165 9 ай бұрын
Protestants becoming catholic here, and being reunited with my Mother is the most amazing thing 💗 🎉🎉
@dorcas4035
@dorcas4035 9 ай бұрын
Glory to God, Jesus want His Mother given the honour She deserves, people should atleast even try to honour Her with the hardships & sorrows She went through & taking good Care of the Baby Jesus.. some people have no respect at all.. even if She wasnt the Mother of God at all She should get respect as a Mother.. Lord Jesus, May your Light shine on those who disrespect Your Blessed Mother for enlightenment🙏❤️‍🔥
@christophercortes1524
@christophercortes1524 8 ай бұрын
The most precise definition of our Catholic Faith through Mary our Mother! Thank you and God bless you 🙏🏾
@Eagleslight
@Eagleslight 9 ай бұрын
It’s a good thing to like Mary like a normal person would like any other person, but she still a human you can’t just put her as an idol. Otherwise you get problems like bail, or other idols or past because Mary is not a god she’s a human a very blessed human, but not to be worshiped
@choooie
@choooie 9 ай бұрын
I've heard this before. "If you eat of it you will be like God."
@friedawells6860
@friedawells6860 9 ай бұрын
"As you, Father, are in me and I am in you, may they also be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me. *The glory that you have given me I have given them* so that they may be one, as we are one." John 17:21-22 The sin of the garden is wanting to be powerful like God while rejecting God. The way of the Christian is to become like God by becoming closer to Him, by loving and trusting in God.
@sammygomes7381
@sammygomes7381 9 ай бұрын
@@friedawells6860 and you do that by faith, not eating Him.
@TruLuan
@TruLuan 9 ай бұрын
@@sammygomes7381 Having faith in Christ is obeying his commands which is to Eat his flesh and Drink his Blood. "This IS my body". I would recommend you start reading scriptures in context instead of cherry-picking what's convenient to your limited beliefs and understand that has no authoritative basis. God Bless.
@friedawells6860
@friedawells6860 9 ай бұрын
@@sammygomes7381 John 6:53 "So Jesus said to them, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.' "
@sammygomes7381
@sammygomes7381 9 ай бұрын
@@friedawells6860 John 5:24 “Truly, truly I say to you, whoever hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has eternal life and shall not come into condemnation, but has passed from death into life. Which message did the apostles preach? We had to eat Christ or believe in Him? Who was the first apostle to walk up and take a bite out of Christ's hand? I'm going out on a limb and guessing you did not know that bread was a Jewish metaphor for the word of God and eating it meant to study it. In the Jerusalem Post, both in articles on the Torah and in articles on the Gospels, we have discussed again and again and again that “food is a metaphor for knowledge” and have seen in example after example that: “each type of food represents a different aspect of knowledge”. Hence: “bread” is a metaphor for: “the word of God”, “figs” are a metaphor for “knowledge about God”, “milk” is a metaphor for “easy to understand spiritual teachings” The fact is neither Jesus nor the apostles ever said mass. Nowhere did the apostles claim to have power to change bread into the body of Christ nor did they teach such a message. We know Christ saying He is the bread of life is a metaphor because Mary gave birth to a son, not a loaf of bread. Christ was pointing out that as bread gives life in the flesh, His word gives life in the spirit. Many blessings.
@Justin-tk1wr
@Justin-tk1wr 9 ай бұрын
my guy out here talking about theosis as a catholic
@Candican2
@Candican2 9 ай бұрын
Wow! I'm surprised to see the comments arguing about Mary when the most shocking thing about this clip is that he said that the point of Christianity is deification of man! I mean, Mormon much? How are we, Protestant or Catholic letting that slide?!
@katerinejonhson4416
@katerinejonhson4416 9 ай бұрын
I know 😢
@alaskanbassethound
@alaskanbassethound 9 ай бұрын
Agree to disagree. I believe praying to Mary is idolatry. Yes, she carried our Lord and savior Jesus Christ and he cared for his mother when he told John “behold thy mother” when he was on the cross. But you will never, ever see Mary glorified or deified or made like God in any the scriptures. Correct me if I’m wrong.
@BJR_H
@BJR_H 8 ай бұрын
Exactly. If Mary was meant to be held in any sort of high place, why did Jesus not give her praise in Luke 11:27-28 when others were trying to say she should be blessed because of her son? Instead, he said that His mother wasn't the one to be blessed, but those who hear the word of God and obey.
@TheHorton12
@TheHorton12 9 ай бұрын
You know who else said we could be “like God”… satan. I’ll stick to worshipping the Holy trinity and that’s it.
@ScottChase-f3r
@ScottChase-f3r 9 ай бұрын
I’m completely smitten with our Blessed Mother! I am convinced she is a big part of the reason I’m now a Catholic.
@DJTrulin
@DJTrulin 9 ай бұрын
She was a woman of the earth who sinned. Respect is deserved. Worship is not. She was not our mother, but the mother of the messiah. You can tell it's doctrine because no Bible references give you this idea
@elle9082
@elle9082 9 ай бұрын
Jesus said to John the beloved while on the cross “Son, this is your Mother” He just meant that He gave us His mother too. He called Mary that time Woman bcos Jesus is the New Adam and Mary is the New Eve. Both Adam and Eve called each other Man and Woman. Jesus is the fulfillment of the prophecies in the Old testament and Mary knew that and was also part of the salvific plan of God.
@nickk964
@nickk964 9 ай бұрын
@@elle9082 That's completely an inaccurate conclusion, where do you get that conclusion from?
@rsmith5244
@rsmith5244 9 ай бұрын
No one is saying we are to worship Mary. You keep distorting the word of God and what Catholics teach. This is because you have no understanding of scripture, for one thing. Jesus left the apostles in charge of the church. He did not leave a handbook. St. Paul said in several places, " Hold fast to the TRADITIONS you learned from us, whether by word of mouth or by letter". The Catholic Church decided which writings would be allowed in the Canon of the New Testament. The Church grew and flourished for almost 400 years before there was a New Testament. Paul said "scripture (and by scripture he meant the Old testament because there was no New testament) is useful for instruction, but the church is the pillar and foundation of the truth". You have no foundation and that is why you have no understanding of scripture and know nothing about the church and its formation. There are many resources available to you if you are sincere and if you really want the truth. Do you want the truth? It will take a little humility and an open heart. Look for solid Catholic resources. There are many of them. Don't be lazy.
@SurprisedLabrador-gl6hy
@SurprisedLabrador-gl6hy 9 ай бұрын
Read Jesus seven last words. One of which he says, "Woman, behold thy son, Son, behold thy mother." Even in Jesus' dying state, he gave us Mary as His gift to be our mother. Don't take everything in the bible literally. Jesus wasn't just talking to His disciple, He was speaking to humanity, bequeathing us His mother.
@nickk964
@nickk964 9 ай бұрын
@@rsmith5244 Praying to "Saints" is a direct contradiction to the first commandment. Praying is a form of worship, by praying to someone other that God you're breaking that commandment. Actually, the Catholic church distorts scripture constantly and puts in place rituals that directly contradict the meaning of Jesus's death and resurrection. Read Hebrews 10:11-17 and tell me how the catholic church performing mass every Sunday doesn't contradict that. Brother in Christ if you truly accept Jesus as your Lord you should consider what the catholic church is practicing, I encourage you to look to scripture and not church doctrine.
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 9 ай бұрын
We have become partakers of the Divine Nature. 2 Peter 1:4
@trishash79
@trishash79 9 ай бұрын
I can't believe this guy said that Eternal life with Christ is shallow. What an absolutely horrible thing to say. Mark & avoid.
@tdupes892
@tdupes892 8 ай бұрын
He means pursuing Jesus for the sake of Heaven is shallow, which it is. Jesus didn’t come to get us to Heaven, he came to be a bridge between God and man. Heaven is just a benefit of being in relationship with Jesus, not the goal. That belief is held by most Protestant leaders as well as Catholics and orthodox.
@trishash79
@trishash79 8 ай бұрын
@@tdupes892 Quite literally, he doesn't know what he means. He quoted Athanasius of Alexandria & is speaking about Divinization. You're going to stray away from the WORD OF GOD & expect a protestant to follow? If Athanasius was correct, please show me the chapter & verse where that comes from. As a Protestant Christian I believe in Sanctification, but my faith will always be in Jesus presently & in the future. You're misunderstanding Salvation. Salvation is received, not achieved.
@tdupes892
@tdupes892 8 ай бұрын
@@trishash79 1. Your original comment about his statement is a mischaracterization of what he is saying. Jesus didn’t come just so I can go to Heaven. 2. Nobody is saying that you achieve salvation, that was given as a gift to all on the Cross by Jesus. 3. Theosis is based on verses talking about being a new creation and trusting that when God says He will finish the good work he has started with us will he completed in our lives, that manifests in becoming like Christ in things like the fruits of the spirit. I grew up Protestant before I became orthodox and heard often from many different preachers that Jesus didn’t come just to get us to Heaven so I know it’s not an uncommon belief in the Protestant church which was what I was getting at. Your comment isn’t a charitable interpretation of what was said in the video.
@trishash79
@trishash79 8 ай бұрын
@@tdupes892 This is an issue of reading instead of standing right in front of me, so to characterize me as being uncharitable is on you. I'm being direct, just as you are no harm no fowl. I did ask for scripture however & you didn't provide any. I feel like that may just be a problem. The man also didn't answer the question that was asked of him about worshiping Mary. Mary, the mother of Jesus, was a godly woman worthy of honor. But she: • Was not sinless •Cannot save anyone • Did not remain a virgin • Does not answer prayer • Has never appeared to anybody • Was not bodily assumed into heaven.
@Kubal-cain
@Kubal-cain 9 ай бұрын
Nope. All the nopes! We do not strive for deity. That's demonic.
@jennycarolina7883
@jennycarolina7883 9 ай бұрын
How does that proof we need to worship Mary?
@nickcleland4579
@nickcleland4579 9 ай бұрын
Profound…beautiful.
@onlyimagine4
@onlyimagine4 9 ай бұрын
This man looks very angry. Where is your joy? Did Mary die for you? Mary is blessed among women and highly favored, but she didn’t die for us. Therefore, we honor her but we don’t “need her like we NEED Jesus. She is not sinless, not God and wasn’t conceived without sin. Sad to see you are deceived into believing you “need” Mary. We all NEED to repent and believe in Jesus’ as Lord as well as believing in His death and resurrection in order to be reconciled back to the Father. Your joy will be restored, too, when you put your faith in Jesus Christ for your salvation. You look sad and angry, brother.
@dakotabowman13
@dakotabowman13 9 ай бұрын
Correct. Acts 2:38 is the ONLY way to be saved and we must maintain a Holy and Modest life spreading the Gospel and obeying His word!
@-Viva-Cristo-Rey
@-Viva-Cristo-Rey 9 ай бұрын
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@dianeweaver930
@dianeweaver930 9 ай бұрын
Mary is full of grace and her Son died for us. Thank you, Mary, for saying yes for man to God. Thank you, God, for Mary.
@uglyducklingako4989
@uglyducklingako4989 9 ай бұрын
Wow this is so powerful! Thank you so much🙏
@micahrockwell9615
@micahrockwell9615 9 ай бұрын
Wow. Incredible heresy! "Deification" is Christianity? Um...no. Let alone worshiping anyone other than God himself. This is a flat-out falsehood
@joecoolmccall
@joecoolmccall 9 ай бұрын
He means Theosis. Depending upon how it is defined I have no issue with the concept.
@frazerpiccolo2228
@frazerpiccolo2228 9 ай бұрын
Amazing how a person can use words to attract everything but the true worship of Jesus Christ.
@savannahfan
@savannahfan 9 ай бұрын
Amazing how a person can ignore the words said and completely miss the point. 🙄 I’m assuming that you will need it spelled out for you, so I will explain why knowing more about Mary brings you CLOSER to understanding our Lord 1. No person was closer to, or knew Jesus better than Mary, no one. 2. Mary was there from the beginning to the end. She alone is the best eyewitness to his life 3. Mary was the FIRST Christian, she was the first human to know who Jesus was and what he would be. She was the first to devote her life to, and give unconditional love for our Lord 4. (Luke 1:46) And Mary said: My soul doth magnify the Lord Mary brings us closer to, makes her Son more clear and gives us the specific example of how to follow Him, serve Him, and love Him… There is no greater Disciple of our Lord than her. Shame on you for listening to whatever fool that convinced you that she gets between you and her Son That makes no sense, and is the sort of thing the Deceiver would say Peace be with you, I hope you gain a better understanding, and stop letting those around you think for you
@frazerpiccolo2228
@frazerpiccolo2228 9 ай бұрын
@@savannahfan Seems like you love Mary more than Jesus Christ.
@savannahfan
@savannahfan 9 ай бұрын
@@frazerpiccolo2228 does it..? What a weird thing to say…. Are you incapable of loving more than one thing in your life ? I love my Daughter more than words, but it doesn’t take anything away from nor mean I love her more than my Wife Jesus is my Lord, my Life, and Love. I will honor the King by honoring his Queen as well. Ignoring her does not show him more love, just the opposite. I think you are so conditioned to dislike Catholics, that you cannot think clearly, and say things you wouldn’t say about anything else That’s too bad, and it’s likely sinful. I suggest you reflect upon James 4:11-12… “Brothers and sisters, stop slandering each other. Those who slander and judge other believers slander and judge God’s laws. If you judge God’s teachings, you are no longer following them. Instead, you are judging them. There is only one who creates laws and judges on the basis of them. He is able to save or destroy you. So who are you to judge your neighbor?” Peace be with you
@frazerpiccolo2228
@frazerpiccolo2228 9 ай бұрын
@@savannahfan I was born and raised a Catholic, my father died a devout Catholic, being a Knight of Columbus, his mother was even a more devout Catholic then he. So I don't hate Catholics, I love very Catholic. I've studied and or read the Bible every day for over 10 years. Also have studied history and the past of the Catholic Church. I despise the Church for their past and for what they will do in the future. The past of torturing to death people all throughout the middle ages: Spanish inquisition and those martyred during the reformation to name just a few atrocities. To say nothing about the rampant pedophilia in the recent church and the covering up of it, allowing priests to continue raping children. Now the Church is allowing homosexuality and in the future they will certainly be a part of the antichrist worship that will arrive in this world. The Bible says you can tell the tree by it's fruit. The Bible also says not to make images, or bow down to them. But the Catholic Church wants to just overlook that, my theory is so it's to take away from the actual worship of Jesus Christ our God. You pray to Mary like billions of others, like my father and grandmother, but there's a chance Mary might be sleeping and not hearing these prayers. Why not pray to God in Jesus Christ name, then you'll know for sure God hears and answers your prayers. After all, Jesus said ask in my name, He didn't say ask in my blessed mother's name. It's all foolery to take away from the glory and honor due to Jesus Christ. Honoring and praying to Saints, who might be in rest and don't hear nothing, is just a deflection, one facilitated by evil.
@sidneybuckaloo
@sidneybuckaloo 10 күн бұрын
As new Catholic adult “convert”, the Mary thing was a big issue for me for months and months. It plagued my mind. I was truly worried that I was doing this all wrong by praying the rosary. Well… here I am some odd 6 months later and I’m doing the St. Maxmillian Kolbe consecration to the Blessed Mother. Subsequently and completely unexpected, after just the first reading and prayer, my daily panic is essentially gone. The explanation in this video was a key short for me to see to help me begin to dismantle my Mary walls.
@jordanmoffat4950
@jordanmoffat4950 9 ай бұрын
Your argument makes no sense. We should love ALL people Jesus loved ALL! If Jesus wanted us to worship Mary he would have told us that! Get your heads out of the sand
@raftingrachel204
@raftingrachel204 9 ай бұрын
Catholics do not WORSHIP Mary. Protestants repeatedly say this and it is a lie. Do better.
@anthonysalerno1152
@anthonysalerno1152 9 ай бұрын
The Virgin Mary is the greatest human being of history, but she never was, nor will ever be, “God.” The Catholic Church rejects any concept of Mary as a goddess or any adoration shown to her as a “heresy,” or grave error against the deposit of Christian faith and revelation. I don’t understand your point.
@josephmancuso817
@josephmancuso817 3 ай бұрын
Worship and love are two different things, get YOUR head out of the sand.
@secCHRONseven
@secCHRONseven 9 ай бұрын
There's literally no need for Mary. We have Christ. Praying to anyone besides God (Father/Son/Holy Spirit) is heresy, idolatry, and sin. And no, Christ didn't die so that we could be like God; we were already created in His image. Christ died for the forgiveness of sins, and so that we could be born again, reconciled to the Father, adopted into His family, and assured of eternity. So that we could love God and enjoy Him forever.
@dianeweaver930
@dianeweaver930 9 ай бұрын
Tell Jesus we don’t need His Mother and see what He says about that.
@secCHRONseven
@secCHRONseven 9 ай бұрын
@@dianeweaver930 He'd point you to the Scriptures, which say to have no other gods before Him (Exodus 20), the Jesus is the high priest (Hebrews 4), and that there's no other name under heaven by which we must be saved (Acts 4). Praying to anyone else, or putting faith in anyone else is idolatry.
@dianeweaver930
@dianeweaver930 9 ай бұрын
@@secCHRONseven Priests are very important… Jesus is the high priest. Who are the lower ones? He established the priesthood.
@radovankaradzic7850
@radovankaradzic7850 9 ай бұрын
​@dianeweaver930 the lower priests are every believer in the church ‭1 Peter 2:5-9 ESV‬ [5] you yourselves like living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. [6] For it stands in Scripture: “Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a cornerstone chosen and precious, and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame.” [7] So the honor is for you who believe, but for those who do not believe, “The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone,” [8] and “A stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense.” They stumble because they disobey the word, as they were destined to do. [9] But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.
@BrandonBui-jh6yf
@BrandonBui-jh6yf 9 ай бұрын
AMEN BROTHER right on the target
@doodoo1885
@doodoo1885 9 ай бұрын
Shallow? Any book in NT ask us to include Mary and Saints in our prayer? or any verse to 'pray' to Mary or saints to help us to pray?
@mysterypersontwentytwo3262
@mysterypersontwentytwo3262 9 ай бұрын
For the sake of being Socratic, may I respectfully ask: Is there a verse that tells you the books in biblical canon are the word of God? There must have been some human authority to sanction it.
@gumbihilt1333
@gumbihilt1333 9 ай бұрын
That sounds an awful lot like what the serpent said to Eve.
@Christ.ourlight
@Christ.ourlight 9 ай бұрын
Being like Christ… like GOD just means having his qualities… his love and holiness
@Nurdoidz
@Nurdoidz 8 ай бұрын
I'm not Catholic but this is such a bad argument. The serpent promised a shortcut to becoming like God without God. If God desired not for us to become more like him, why did he put the tree of knowledge of good and evil in his garden? Is he a tempter of evil, or were we just not ready to partake of it?
@Clanmackenzie
@Clanmackenzie 8 ай бұрын
I agree I think there is a reasonable comparison to Lucifer and the sin in the garden of Eden. I think you need to look at the purpose of creation. We were created above all things to worship God. We are living breathing examples of the majesty of God’s. We are created to reveal and glorify the qualities of God. We are explicitly not created to be like God any more than the qualities that He breathed into Adam and Eve. Seeking to be more like God is that sin that got Lucifer cast from heaven and Adam and Eve cast from the garden. Of course we are to strive to be sanctified by the Holy Spirit and pursue holiness in our life, but that is not to make us more like God, it is to honor God through our obedience, which is a form of worship our original purpose.
@inforceclips4399
@inforceclips4399 9 ай бұрын
Christianity is not to become God, it is to serve Him. If you think to be like Christ is refering to His divinity and not His lawful attributes, you are in severe danger.
@JALV1998
@JALV1998 9 ай бұрын
Amen...this hit my soul. Thank you and God bless you 🙏😊
@KenGray
@KenGray 9 ай бұрын
Wait.... But he didn't answer the question.
@jaredlu2200
@jaredlu2200 9 ай бұрын
He did
@KenGray
@KenGray 9 ай бұрын
@jaredlu2200 Q: do Catholics worship Mary? A: did not say yes or no.
@cofresidotexe
@cofresidotexe 9 ай бұрын
The video isn’t titled “Do Catholics worship Mary?” It’s “Why Protestants need Mary”. The answer to the question is likely in the interview, which should be posted within the next week, but he answered the point for which the clip was named. It might be scandalous of me to answer myself, so I’d suggest watching the full interview for yourself when it releases, but I’m going to try my best to summarize what one would suspect he’s alluding to in direct response to the question originally given him. I see what he’s describing as leading into the principle that in what honor we render Mary, or any creature who is now in Heaven, we render in some form also to God, since they are fully one with Him in a Christological way. Likewise, Christ rendered this honor himself to Mary, which is why he was obedient to her wishes, even hastening his very ministry on Earth for her sake. One can describe this as a kind of worship (from Old English weorthscipe via worth + ship, meaning ‘acknowledgement of worth’ i.e. what is due to role, honor, sacrifice) as one would render to a king or queen, which in some sense a patriarch or matriarch is to their family. One can argue that was given this by Christ for more than her maternity of God, and likely shares a relationship with the declaration of the archangel Gabriel “Hail, highly favored (also rendered, ‘full of grace’)”. Whether it was her submission to her destiny, or her deep desire to live a life of holiness, there is something to the honor Our Lord gave her, and following the reasoning, one can see this as representative of a kind of honor due all those who are fully one with God: the saints in Heaven. Hence, her being a kind of proto-saint to Catholic Christians, and a representation of the Church and all her saints, who too gestate and give regenerative birth to likenesses of Christ to glorify the world. I apologize again for any scandal possibly given, but in layman’s terms: Yes, we do. But this worship is a creaturely kind, of one creature to another. It is toward the light of God in those for whom we offer it, for the sake of their entire being and the fruit they bear of it, and in hope of the future of the entire reality of the visible and organic Church. You wouldn’t really compare that to the kind of worship we give the Author of said light, God himself. The same way you wouldn’t really compare the light we appreciate in the Moon to the light we appreciate of the Sun - the blazing ball which was how we as a species ever came to truly know light at all, and for that matter the Moon ever first being capable of presenting light to begin with. For whatever chore reading this was, I hope listening to Gabriel will serve you far better. May God bless and keep you!
@KenGray
@KenGray 9 ай бұрын
​@@cofresidotexe HAHA....Yes, long indeed, but seen and graciously accepted in the kind and generous spirit in which it was intended. Thank you. The question is stated in the first few seconds of the video. "Do Catholics worship Mary?" He did not answer that, but, I will concede your point that this clip may only be an attraction to view the question in full at a later date. Now, as to some of the points you made. I will agree that you could have given 'scandal' with you short answer, but I will also grant you were trying to redefine it away from προσκυνέω. So, I think you are concerned about offering more scandal than is necessary by answering so. But, I don't think the Catholic Church honors Mary above others the way that the Jews honor Abraham above others. Jews do not pray to Abraham or Moses for that matter. Catholics go much further than the honor given to Abraham from the Jews. Now, granted, as you put, she was declared 'highly favored'. However, Moses spoke face to face and David declared that he was the apple of His eye. But, these people are not prayed to as God is to be prayed to. Honor to those in heaven is one thing (though, they will not be complete till after the marriage ceremony and, though this is just my thinking, after the new heaven and new earth are established) but prayer, I think, is quite another level. However, the establishment of that may be a matter of how we view the doctrinal canon and the differences between them. As to Mary forcing the early start of Jesus' ministry. I don't think you can say that with the miracle of the wine. As Jesus said, "For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me.". He did not move on account of Mary's request; I think He moved on account that the Father was moved by her request and told Jesus to do it. Sorry for such a long response (brevity not being a skill I can exercise in such a short time). Thank you for your kindness in considering my point.
@cofresidotexe
@cofresidotexe 9 ай бұрын
@@KenGray I appreciate the reply! I don’t know if I would say there’s such a great difference between the Father telling the Son that the Mary’s petition be granted, and the Son accepting it of his independent volition (at least in terms of my point about honor given) 😉 As to the question of prayer to the saints, there are a great many reasons why there is a tradition that allows this practice. It partly has to do with accepted biblical canon, part to do with the idea of the Church as being not separable by death by way of Christ’s passion and resurrection, and part to do with our understanding of what ‘prayer’ means (c.f. “I prithee” in works of Shakespeare). I would merely lend a recognition that what the tradition of Christians speaks of how we interpret the Jewish religion prior to Christ, matters more than the interpretations of the Jewish people prior to Christ (apart from those we find espoused in Scripture). Likewise, I would emphasize that the opinions within Talmudic Judaism (second century onward) are not only incongruent with Judaism prior to Christ (it is, in a sense, “resurgent” Judaism), but that they do not represent the norms of “high religion” for Abrahamic belief, as any good Christian from either a “high-church” or “low-church” background should agree that what Christ offers is of the highest order of religion (“Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets […] but to fulfill”) and is the yard stick for which we measure the extent of our belief and how we ought to govern said belief. There is much more to be said, but I’d rather leave you with this open-end to a larger dive into the deep and widely cited beliefs of Catholic Christianity, than try to present to you various syllogisms and logical wrestling moves to pin you into a submission to what our mystical and beautiful organism desires to instruct mankind. I prithee (see what I did there? 😏) providence on your expedition into the totality of Christian belief. And as before, God bless and keep you!
@alexandrethebault2637
@alexandrethebault2637 9 ай бұрын
Bold statement. Be more cautious and avoid judging a whole lotta faithful christians especially on such poor words. Arguments? Sounds so weak. Christ is the only mediator. The Trinity is all that matters. Sola Scriptura. Sola fide. Soli Deo Gloria. Traditions, the saints and accretions are contingent.
@rebn8346
@rebn8346 9 ай бұрын
What is the name of the first Bible compiled and ratified in 382AD?
@Mxswanson500
@Mxswanson500 9 ай бұрын
Only the sith deal in absolutes
@williammanhire4424
@williammanhire4424 9 ай бұрын
​@@Mxswanson500I love you for saying this
@Isaiah53-FL
@Isaiah53-FL 9 ай бұрын
Very well said. On this speaker's part, no argument was presented. Simply feelings and some sort of personally derived theology
@rebn8346
@rebn8346 9 ай бұрын
@@Isaiah53-FL what is the name of the first Bible? What was the ratified list of books and by whom?
@kimhollander2987
@kimhollander2987 9 ай бұрын
Great answer Gabi!! We love you!
@TheBerserker77
@TheBerserker77 9 ай бұрын
Lots of protestants here seem to not understand the idea of praying to Mary and the Saints. When Catholics pray to Mary they never directly ask her to grant them anything as if she's a diety. Just the same way you ask your mother or a friend to pray for you so Catholics do the same with Mary and the Saints. Remember, a misinformed Catholic becomes a Protestant, but an Educated Protestant becomes Catholic.
@thequietman5934
@thequietman5934 9 ай бұрын
Hebrews 10:19-22 Therefore, brethren, having boldness to enter the Holiest by the blood of Jesus, by a new and living way which He consecrated for us, through the veil, that is, His flesh, and having a High Priest over the house of God, let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. Hebrews 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need. Hebrews 7:25 Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them. 1 John 3:22 And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight. Romans 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities; for we know not what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. Could you explain to me why we would ask anyone else who is in heaven already to "pray for us" when we can pray for ourselves and what we can't express properly in prayer the Holy Spirit prays and intercedes for us? Seems to me that the Holy Trinity has all of that covered and needs no help from the living or the dead in Christ.
@Ar-pc9oo
@Ar-pc9oo 9 ай бұрын
I am a misinformed Protestant - please give me the Bible Verse that tells us to pray to Mary. Thank you in advance
@TheBerserker77
@TheBerserker77 9 ай бұрын
The argument of Sola Scriptura has been debunked to the fullest. I invite you to research on that topic.
@thequietman5934
@thequietman5934 9 ай бұрын
@mr.skywalker9829 2 Timothy 3:15-17 and how from infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. Galatians 1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! Can you give me evidence to the contrary of the Apostles' teaching on the completeness of Scripture for all things? Or was the Apostle a liar? If so, then if there is one liar in Scripture, how do we know if any of it is true?
@TheBerserker77
@TheBerserker77 9 ай бұрын
@@thequietman5934 Again you are using the Bible to argue about a matter that is outside the Bible. Look up sola scriptura and start researching why the Bible is not enough to have a complete understanding of God.
@thapr0digy
@thapr0digy 9 ай бұрын
The amount of blasphemy here is horrible. God did not send his son to make us like God. We can never be like him. He says he's the first and the last, the alpha and the Omega. There are no other gods as Isaiah 45:5 says.
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