Why Ryobi's Track Saw is both Trash AND Genius.

There are 13 things you need to know before buying the Ryobi track saw. I bought the track saw for ONE reason and was massively disappointed by it. I also found nine things wrong with Ryobi's track saw. To be fair, I also found three things I like. Will people care about the ten things I found that are wrong with it? Is Ryobi a genius despite my opinion? You tell me!
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0:45 Ten Things I Hate About the Ryobi Track Saw
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[@nathandcole]

I've found that Ryobi consistently delivers well above it's price point while many other brands come up short for what you pay. I have consistently been surprised by their power and durability. I do some fairly heavy duty stuff, and I have yet to have one tool fail on me.

[@tomskimcdouglegaming806]

Its*

[@kevinmach730]

I think it's more of a tool by tool judgement for me. I've been really happy with some of their stuff, and gotten total garbage from them also. They often drop the ball on some very basic features, like the tools are being designed by people who never used that tool before. I have had several tools fail on me or out right break, so consider yourself lucky. I do like that I can get 3 tools for the price of one DeWalt or Milwaukee, which is a huge selling point for weekend warrior/ DIYer like myself.

[@demonika13601]

Ryobi is a rarity in modern businesses: a a fairly long running company that's offered reliable, long lasting power tools at an affordable price for the semi pro community. They've kept their designs simple and focused on function. I'm a DeWalt man myself, though I do prefer certain tools be other brands; Ryobi included.

[@maxa2826]

Ryobi sucks, sorry. Their cordless platform has always been trash.

[@actionjksn]

I'm a DeWalt guy as well but some of those Ryobi tools are pretty good. The Ryobi lawn mower and blower are actually better than the DeWalt. I've also used someone else's Ryobi table saw years ago and that thing was surprisingly good. Not as good as my trusty old dw744, but still pretty good for a cheap saw.

[@epstein_isnt_dead7726]

@@actionjksn I'm a pro and I use Ryobi cordless tools. Won't touch their bits or hand tools and if it plugs in then I won't go with Ryobi, but when the 18v tools made the switch from NiCad to lithium batteries, every other tool brand changed the design. All tools used to take Ryobi type post batteries. But when lithium was introduced they went to the slide on pack making my dewalts useless without the big clunky adapter. Ryobi kept the battery design and so I bought their starter set. Been adding their tools to my collection every since with the confidence that they won't become obsolete in 6 months like my dewalts did. And I've come to learn that Ryobi 18v tools are just as good as any other brand. Not in every tool, but no one brand can claim their tool is the best in every category.

[@actionjksn]

@@epstein_isnt_dead7726 I tried the clunky adapter and it is a piece of crap, not even really usable it won't handle any load. I fried mine pretty quickly. DeWalt is sticking with this battery design for a long time so I'm okay with it. It's also a much better design. Most of my stuff was pretty worn out anyway. My 60 volt saw is good enough that I removed my corded saw from my truck. My dw744 table saw is over 20 years old and still working. Most other tools cannot last that long. I'm not saying I haven't had to do anything to it but it still has most of the original motor. It is still very accurate as well and very easy to calibrate.

[@actionjksn]

@@epstein_isnt_dead7726 Do you think he's really alive?

[@breeze787]

I'm sure Ryobi is taking notes. Feedback is essential for any brand. Thanks for putting this up. I'm glad that this review is not a deal breaker.

[@wittworks]

Thank you!

[@BrokenLifeCycle]

A company? In this day and age of non-consumers owning majority stocks in them, thus making all the decisions? Listening to feedback? Big. DOUBT.

[@kameljoe21]

Nah most places do not take notes. There are forums and reddit post talking about tools that they would like to get that other brands have yet the brand still do not deliver. I just did a lengthy review for a company with a product and went in to detail about what they needed to fix nearly 2 months ago. I gave them some input on a few very simple software patches and modifications they could do in a few hours and then spend a few days testing. Yet they still have not done anything. Its sad that companies we would think would fix or do things right yet they wont. Wen track saw is still the better buy or just get something better than the ryobi. While I do like the brand there are just a few things I can not see buying.

[@bunjiman0723]

I got one of these on Black Friday. I don't mind the split track so much because I usually buy quarter sheets of plywood at most and work in a small garage, so the shorter track is a plus for me. I was also able to use a universal hose adapter and clamp to fit it to my Ridgid shop vac. The worst part is definitely the tracks not being compatible with other tracks or brands and therefore most of the independently-made jigs and attachments are unusable.

[@Version135]

I have the money for expensive tools now - but I started with Ryobi and for my home projects I have never really felt the need to upgrade beyond them. I have tons of batteries so I'm not sure I ever will. Very fair video.

[@wittworks]

Good info. Thank you for sharing.

[@thestorey]

I too am in this boat. Sat in the tool isle the other day looking at a Dewalt driver set.... ended up thinking why? Why do I need this? Bought some walnut instead and that will be a better investment!

[@wittworks]

Good call

[@DadItYourselfDIY]

Really enjoyed this video. As a Ryobi fanboy/snob I agree with most of your points, but I think you nailed it when it comes to where this saw fits into its niche. Generally, where all Ryobi does, solidly in the DIY space and into the semi-pro community.

[@wittworks]

thanks bro! I agree - they know their market. Just wish they used the standard rails.

[@lykaios313]

@@wittworks But you used Kreg as an example of the saw and omitted the Kreg rail that is a split design.... The Ryobi is basically a clone of the design.

[@wittworks]

@@lykaios313 most “split tracks” are 55” - long enough to cut across 4’ plywood. The Ryobi splits this into two 27” tracks.

[@lykaios313]

Sorry not trying to harp, wasn't one of your points that it was a split design in general. I have been using a Kreg split design track for a bit and funny enough I want to switch to a fixed length. Thanks for the content

[@wittworks]

@@lykaios313 the standard default track everyone else sells is 55”. Ryobis standard splits that in half.

[@itrunamok8019]

As a carpenter I know many others switching to the one+ line of Ryobi for finish work. Whenever I am doing fine interior work I steal my buddies because it seems much smoother, albeit slower than my dewalt which I still prefer for framing and heavy duty projects.

[@dangnify]

I became a Ryobi fan may years ago after my one year old Milwaukee drill bit the dust. I replaced it with a drill, charger and two batteries for the cost of a single M battery. Today I have so many Ryobi tools I've lost count. Still have some blue ones that still work. For corded tools though I tend to go with the best I can afford. Not sure if I'll go with this tack saw or not, but thanks for the detailed review.

[@fluxxNZ]

Here in NZ we are many months behind the rest of the world for Ryobi tools (the 600psi HP jet washer just hit shelves) so reviews like this are appreciated. I have a lot of Ryobi tools because I dont need these things for my income, i use them for projects around the house and garden, the fact i can throw a mitre saw, shop vac, circular saw, router, lawnmower, radio etc in the car and have them run off the same battery platform is great, and the HP range really is a step up in performance, i love them, but if I paid a tradie to come and do a job and they had a van full of Ryobi id be worried.

[@wittworks]

Thank you!

[@mcseforsale]

My shop is all Ryobi 18V. I have too many of their tools to mention. As a hobby woodworker (generally, I build small projects to give away and furniture for the house, cabinets, etc.), I am very satisfied with their products. I won't be getting their track saw since it's something I would rarely use, but the batteries are pretty amazing. One thing not mentioned is that if you buy an 18V tool from 8 years ago, this battery will still work. The battery interface hasn't changed in years. Hell, I have a couple of blue tools that run the 18V batteries. I've also since switched to their 40V lawn equipment line. Pretty solid stuff for stuff made out of plastic. HAHA.

[@thenext9537]

Exactly why I avoided Ryobi and their 'track saw'. I ended up with a Wen and it's fantastic (for the price). Here is what I can tell everyone who wants a track saw. The tracks are ALL issue prone (looking at you Festool too, powertec, makita....they are all the same!!). I'm a person of precision, and if you are too you will find out quickly that the two tracks put together won't be straight. I have an 8 foot aluminum level. I simply put it on it's side and put the tracks up to it and adjust the screws and insert until my feeler gauge .003 won't slip through. You may think this isn't important but it is and I'll tell you why! Imagine, you are off by 1/32 of an inch on a 10 foot board. That run out will turn into a 1/16, even an 8th. Compound this when you have multiple boards and you start to see the issue. 55" is a stupid length as well. Why? I hate the track sections if you need to clamp them. You can only clamp the ends - so if your track is 110" like mine (2 pieces) and you have a 96" cut to make, the clamps won't reach leaving you either to A) use double sided tape (now you have to do the ENTIRE track and risk being off square 90) B) Use the track freehand and hope it doesn't move C) clamp a piece of wood to one side and beginning and end and hope it doesn't move D) Any other number of stupid solutions that all are terrible. What I *REALLY* want is a 9 foot ONE PIECE track saw track. If you made it this far and ask why? I'll tell you why. Here is the issue with track saws when you want to make a cut. First, you need enough track in BACK of the saw to back up enough so when you plunge down you go through your wood. Otherwise you have to come back with a Japanese flush cut saw to cut the ends off. You can't have too little or too much track hanging off either because the weight of the saw will cause your blade to not be 90 or whatever angle you are after. I only use mine on table top ends and or glue joints if it's too much to put on a table saw. I think anyone who thinks they want a track saw, should research them and find they are nice to have and once you use one once you'll see why. However, do yourself a favor and buy some machinist squares in different sizes so you can calibrate the saw and get a 90 or 45 (or whatever angle you need). Track saws are a nice tool, just know what you are getting into with them and you will find that all the above, if you pay attention will hold true. If it doesn't, I don't care but don't say I didn't warn you haha.

[@sweedenburg]

For entry level track saws for breaking down mostly sheet goods, the best solution I've found is the Masterforce 2410706 (in-house Menards brand). It's also a split track, but is an all-in-one corded kit that gets you 4 pieces of track and a decently-accurate 6-1/2" plunge saw with a bag for both. If you can order one to your house (for those far from the midwest) they've been $199 for a little over a year, down to $177 with the 11% rebate they regularly have going. $200 for a track saw to break down 8' plywood sheets? I'm sold. Even if it weren't accurate, it would be worth it for most people to get rough cuts for breaking down materials, but I've used mine quite a bit over the past 6 months and have almost no real complaints considering the price and local availability (for me). Throw in a Diablo blade, do a few minutes of setup, and get some long, straight cuts right away.

[@dylan-nguyen]

wow, this basically looks like the WEN that I've commonly seen BUT it fits REGULAR saw blades!!!

[@girthbrooks39]

A 'Ryobi snob'.... That's a misnomer I had never heard before..... I'm a tool guy, not brand specific, have everything from b&d to Mafell and I'm actually a fan of a lot of Ryobi products, especially Japanese Ryobi however given the definition of 'snob', it just doesn't make sense to me.

[@TracksWithDax]

Man, I might get one. I have NEVER heard anyone talk about these ones. I've seen them in stores though

[@wittworks]

Just got it in. Same split track as Ryobi!!!!!! I’m blown away. Video forthcoming.

[@andrewmacleod620]

This is exactly what I was going to say. I live in Menards country, and I've been eyeing the Masterforce one for a while now.

[@Followorship]

Great video Drew! Very informative as well as being entertaining and engaging. Very fair but honest review. Kudos😊

[@wittworks]

Thank you. I wonder if Ryobi will share your feelings 🫣

[@beingsons9393]

Great review. Great video. I’m fully informed on it. Thanks Drew.

[@wittworks]

Thank you Jay!

[@ericrickert3045]

I use Ryobi, Milwawkee, DeWalt, Kobalt, RIgid, Hercules, and Bauer, so have batteries for all. I am not locked in to any battery platform. My track saw is the corded Wen 6 1/2 inch and love it. Nice review!!!

[@77gmcnut]

I appreciate your thorough review here and if I were in the market for a track saw I'd look at this because I own many other Ryobi tools. This review makes me glad I chose to purchase my Makita track saw.

[@batfreak6897]

The 9:22 mark is the key part that saved this video review for me. Great job and a very fair review with a lot of clarifications and justifications for the opinions given.

[@Joethetoolguy]

Now this is a fantastic review. Well done 😊

[@wittworks]

Thank you joe!

[@Youngarchitect]

Fantastic analysis! Please do more tool reviews Drew!

[@wittworks]

tomorrow morning!

[@Tinneus]

Thanks for an excellent review. Intelligent, balanced, thoroughly useful -- completely unlike most of the noise on YT.

[@planespeaking]

I got the Bosch biturbo cordless. It's well made and easy to use. I use it on Makita rails because they are loads cheaper than the Bosch/fein and more accessories available and don't slip on gloss panels like the Bosch rail does. The Makita rails are better made than some reviews make out

[@williammaxwell1919]

Hay, so cool that your sister used the tracksaw to help make her cabinet.

[@user-bw5xf3yr3m]

Amazing detailed video, this is the kinda info I’m looking for, thanks and ima. Heck out your other videos

[@wittworks]

Thank you

[@VincheroKarpintero]

I started out with Ryobi and have since invested in Makita, Dewalt and most recently, Milwaukee tools. One of the reasons I can't totally let go of Ryobi is the expansive 18v line. So while I have sold off most of my Ryobi tools, I still keep 3 batteries for my Ryobi fans, power washer, lights, etc. Ryobi rocks just for putting so many tools out there!

[@wittworks]

Karpintero! Good stuff. Their battery like up is insane.

[@rickyperkins232]

@@wittworks I have being waiting for a long time for you to review the Mafell cordless track saw, question are you going to review that saw?

[@wittworks]

Hey Ricky! I’d be happy to review it if I could get one cheap or free. Don’t have the budget to buy one for the sake of it 🫣 I reached out to Timberwolves/Mafell months ago asking for a unit I could review. They said, “no thank you. We’re good.” Maybe you could email them and point out their lost opportunity 🤪

[@rickyperkins232]

@@wittworks I am in the market for a track saw. I believe in buy once cry once and don't mind a temporary monetary set back for one but I need a guy like you who is honest about the tool. I am the guy that would not buy the Ryobi I would rather gun for the top than even start with a tool like that or even a good brand not proven like Milwaukee track saw. The reviews on KZbin are pretty old from skill builders which I am not sure if they are like paid.

[@mysterythecat971]

You can Make this: You just need a shop with $100,000 worth of tools. Glad to see a review that says you know what, this product is OK for the Long Weekend woodworker, that does not need 1/64 precision. I've found Ryobi delivers at it's price point. It does generally what I need it to. If I need more power, I go corded.

[@peterwooldridge7285]

Good review...I particularly like the "tool snob" reference

[@wittworks]

Thank you. I may or may not be forming a club….

[@nialstewart8263]

Interesting review. It would be good to see some of your build Drew, that bathroom cabinet looks interesting.

[@wittworks]

Thanks! Very pleased with the cabinet. Hardest part was building it outside in 100+ degree July Texas sun, while being 4 hours away from my shop and relying on available tools. Because of the heat and time crunch I only videoed those few clips with my phone as time was of the essence.

[@nialstewart8263]

@@wittworks A video on the challenges of this would be good, what did you do to get the highest quality result given the restrictions. How did you design it etc.

[@wittworks]

Great idea

[@jackhennessey4154]

I was a little worried about installing the blade after reading a couple of reviews. But it was amazingly easy. Took about 1 minute. Works great kzbin.infoUgkxjpBI8OOeUXib_iT7UomCrQ-uauwZJ62c . Cuts easily and is perfect for pocket cuts I needed to make for replacing some old deck boards.

[@burbabull]

I bought one of these and really like it. The points in the video are true, it’s a little plasticky, but it’s light and accurate. Perfect for a home wood shop.

[@genefox6330]

Great video! All of the track saws that were mentioned have tracks that you have to connect together like the Ryobi does.

[@wittworks]

ryobi is split at 27" - the others are at 55

[@TracksWithDax]

Thanks for a thorough review! My thing is, at its pricepoint, why not go Makita corded for almost the same price? Or save several hundreds and go with the Wen/Masterforce? The only upside I see to this tool is if you already have Ryobi batteries and need cordless. All the plastic and incompatibility it hard to get by for me But then if it were me, I think at that point I'd accept having a dedicated battery system like Makita 18v for this specific tool. Dang, I was so excited when they announced it, too.

[@wittworks]

Agreed. The makita is still my fav. Also just ordered the master force and wen to do a “beginners” review. I think one of those is not worth buying…

[@rjd8434]

Hey Drew. Great video. I’m just a hobbyist and have the wen 1065 which I recently purchased your blade guard insert. Fits perfectly thank you. But lately I’ve been thinking of getting a cordless track saw and I’m pretty heavily invested in the Ryobi battery platform so thought this might be a good option. But I see Amazon has a Wen cordless track saw for$200 which includes 2 20 volt 4ah batteries and a single charger. Have you had an opportunity to get your hands on one of those yet? Thank you!

[@wittworks]

I got one a few weeks ago but haven’t tried it out yet. I would stay with wen because of the track. That opens you up to all kinds of 3rd party accessories like ratchet clamps, and TSO squares / parallel guides in the future. With that track design and those accessories you can upgrade to makita, Festool, Milwaukee if you ever want to.

[@rjd8434]

@@wittworks Awesome! I’m looking forward to seeing your review on the Wen cordless track saw. Thanks

[@TheSwedishMaker]

I never thought Ryobi would make a track saw, but they are really in the game. Great video!

[@wittworks]

Thank you. Yes. Surprised they beat Milwaukee

[@scottyno03]

Same company

[@wittworks]

Yep.

[@xpsylentzer_8039]

i brought Ryobi 10 piece tool kit 800$nzd 3 years ago and they are still going strong, i have brought Milwaukee tools now that i have the money to do so but i still use all my Ryobi tools all the time

[@fourzerothreewoodworks]

I was pretty excited for this saw when it was announced being that I’m just starting into woodworking. After a little research i noticed the riving knife being fixed, and after borrowings friends festool tracksaw i just completely said no to the Ryobi. I’m still waiting to see how the Milwaukee turns out now that it has been announced

[@wittworks]

Yeah, riving knife being fixed was the major disappointment (and the split track). I’ll get the Milwaukee for a review. It looks good. I still prefer my corded makita (and really don’t need the riving knife).

[@actionjksn]

When Milwaukee is late entering a market they tend to knock it out of the park. That allows you to look at what everybody else has done and learn from their mistakes. They did this with the stackable tool boxes. They came up with the Packout well after DeWalt did their tough system and the Milwaukee pack out system is a lot better than anything out there. And I'm not a Milwaukee Fanboy I don't even own their tools. I do own the Packout boxes though.

[@fourzerothreewoodworks]

@@actionjksn yeah I don’t own a single power tool from Milwaukee but I love my wire strippers and packout from them. Very much so watching every other day for the track saw release. Im borrowing my friends 13y/o festool ts55 and it’s nice but I’m still waiting to see what Milwaukee has to offer on price and overall package

[@wittworks]

I watch every day too. Buying one to review. It has a good chance of retiring my beloved makita.

[@actionjksn]

@@fourzerothreewoodworks I'm hoping they sell some nice tracks that are not outrageously priced. I have so many DeWalt batteries that I kind of have to buy their saw, unless I can get some really good deal on kit with batteries. I have no loyalty to any company, and I can assure you they have no loyalty to us, none of them.

[@genefox6330]

The blade is suppose to cut the splinter guard on the first pass. All of my tools are Ryobi and I have been very impressed! I still have the same first cordless drill that I bought about 18 years ago and have used hundreds of hours and it still works like new. That is unheard of for any cordless drill!

[@AshOnTop23]

That Kreg riving knife looks like it will block the plunge cut as well. It still makes contact with the wood before the blade for most of that plunge.

[@wittworks]

I’ll double check, but when I tested it I didn’t have that issue. The spring release seemed to work very well. Was surprised to see it on that saw.

[@sneakyblackdog]

I'm in need of a tracksaw but I'll only use it maybe twice a year to break down sheet goods, so I looked online at the ryobi, #1 got to order it not available in my area, that I could live with, #2 extra track to go out to 8ft not available. I'm on the Makita and Milwaukee battery platform so I got options but track unavailable they can do better. Thanks for the review.

[@wittworks]

Thank you! Yeah the track lengths, options are a big limitation. They should have used the standard design. The WEN on Amazon might be a good option. $100 plus a track.

[@greentoke4589]

Riobi's brand slogan should be Riobi: it's cheap but it works🤔😆💯

[@usmanworks2616]

as a weekend diyier that saw is good to me, honestly I have a bosch cordless circular saw with guide rail but im not really happy because most of my project I use plywood and you know guys how hard to cut accurately with the circular saw even im using a guide rail compared to track saw. That saw is my pocket budget, so I would get that saw if is available in my country.

[@wittworks]

Thanks for sharing

[@BillFellner]

Good review. I would say most of my power tools are Ryobi and the have worked well. There are times they have annoyed me enough by quality or things like proprietary items which drove me to another brand. My table saw is a Metabo because of those things! Different question… what brand/color filament did you use? It looked pretty close to the Ryobi green 😂

[@actionjksn]

Is your table saw a Metabo or a Metabo HPT?

[@BillFellner]

@@actionjksn Metabo HPT C10RJSM

[@wittworks]

I use protopasta for makita and Festool. They’re exact custom colors. I found this cheap one on Amazon for Ryobi and it’s close enough: amzn.to/3f5d1ZW I also use a lot of the matte black and space gray from that same brand (overture). Always prints like butter. And they use cardboard spools which I like. Prusa galaxy black is my favorite though. Prints perfect and the glitter hides the layer lines.

[@actionjksn]

@@BillFellner That is actually Hitachi with a new name. I think the HPT stands for Hitachi Power Tools. Hitachi tools are pretty good so that's not a bad thing. If you ever find a good deal on a tool that just says Metabo without the initials then that is a really high-end brand made in Germany. Metabo is an entirely different company from HPT. Concord Carpenter did some really good tests on job site table saws and the Hitachi performed very well.

[@BillFellner]

@@actionjksn yea that is why I bought it. Plus I got it on a really good holiday sale 😀. It has been a champ and works very well. The knobs for the fence are plastic and one was broken but they were very responsive and I got a replacement in a couple of days.

[@darrcook1]

Great real-world practical review. I think you referred to yourself as a tool snob more than once. I didn't see that at all. I think you outlined all the reasons why I went with this saw myself.

[@DMSparky]

Got a corded Festool at home with a 55” and 120” (makita) track. I’d definitely consider getting this for the cabin where we have ryobi stuff. The track seems less than ideal I really don’t know why they went proprietary…

[@wittworks]

I don’t know either. Big mistake I think n

[@anthonygoodrich6487]

Thanks for the review. I was considering this saw just to have one, but too many negetives.

[@wittworks]

Thanks Anthony!

[@dtfcd]

Key thing to consider is not to tie yourself into any one platform due to its proprietary battery. That's what battery adapters are for... to allow you to swap a single ecosystem battery on to many different platforms. That said Ryobi tools are great but Ryobi batteries are the worst form factor of any proprietary battery platform. One of the very best battery platforms out there is the DeWalt flexvolt. It allows you to run any 20 volt or 60 volt platform and there are adapters for almost every tool out there including Ryobi 20 volt tools. I use adapters to run milwaukee, ryobi, Makita, and Harbor Freight brands. All of these Brands end up running just a slight bit stronger and faster on the DeWalt flexvolt and I have never had any problems with any tools. (In one case.. w a ryobi sawsall i ran it so hard and so long on a flexvolt that the wires fused and opened the circuit of the adapter (i had to rewire w heavier Guage wire... the sawsall was fine).

[@SolveFixBuild]

I used to buy only Dewalt until I picked up a used Ryobi BT3100 tablesaw that I’ve been using for 15 years. Been a Ryobi convert ever since.

[@danielpayne3336]

Back in the old days us old guys used to use a level and two clamps or a table saw same result

[@wittworks]

I used to do that. This is faster and more accurate. 😬

[@masterkilla77]

Which would you choose, this ryobi and add more track to get to the 8ftmark $290+$130 in track Or Wen for about $165 for their smaller saw, $210 for the 7 1/4 saw setup? I need to check out your other vids.

[@Knickerson]

Nice review. In the market for a tracksaw, my head is set on Metabo (euro). It fits my battery platform, better features, etc. But it wouldn’t surprise me if at some point Ryobi puts out a “pro” version, which covers most of the things you hate about this model.

[@wittworks]

I think their pro version is the new Milwaukee. Same parent company.

[@Knickerson]

@@wittworks Ah. We don’t see much Milwaukee out here. Maybe the brands will update here in the next year or so.

[@erik3205]

I bought this a week ago, because I didn't feel comfortable with table saw. I diy when I can, so I wouldn't use this all the time. I have the batteries already. I took it out of the package yesterday, I notice all the plastic. The blade is rubbing against the housing and the plastic around the plunge, blade change setting is grinding against the depth gauge ridges. I haven't made one cut with this track saw, I am returning it. Not sure what track saw to get now.

[@wittworks]

Get the wen on Amazon for $99 and a powertec track. Much better.

[@genefox6330]

The blade is suppose to cut the splinter guard on the first pass. All of my tools are Ryobi and I have been very impressed! I still have the same first cordless drill that I bought about 18 years ago and have used hundreds of hours and it still works like new. That is unheard of for a battery operated drill, or any drill really!

[@erik3205]

@@genefox6330 I took off the front plate, whoever assembled is put the plate that goes over the riving knife on backwards and that was pushing the blade into the front cover on the saw, once I flipped it, it didn’t do it anymore.

[@What_Other_Hobbies]

Tool only goes on sale for $259, which is a pretty good choice for DIYers that already on or will be on ryobi battery platform. I’m tired of wasting time on messing with tools I bought to save some money. They ended up costing me more in the form of spending more time to adjust it, or producing inaccurate results. And I don’t do this professionally. Woodworking is only a hobby. I’m current 41 years old. I am not sure if I have another 41 years in woodworking. I surely want to put all the time I can into working wood, not messing with tools.

[@wittworks]

“Buy once cry once” And you for at least 39 years left! 🤞

[@What_Other_Hobbies]

@@wittworks If Ryobi was using standard track, I would probably have bought it.

[@wittworks]

Yeah, huge disappointment. The saw works fine. It’s that split track and design I hate.

[@DavidLee-cw6ci]

Just wondering, the Ryobi track slot is wider than the standard Festool. Could you 3d print a shim to glue to the underside of the saw's base plate to make it compatible? If you can, go make some money!

[@drewfoxworthy1057]

Very good video!

[@wittworks]

Thank you Drew!

[@davidmeyer9204]

Drew, sorry I am late to the party. You know me (#technology) I am still saving to get the Makita (corded) track saw, it is just that my wife is soooo expensive. Just kidding, she hasn't sent me down the road kicking rocks and it has been 35 yrs. Good review and honesty. Thanks sir!

[@wittworks]

Ha! You’ll love the corded makita. It’s still my preferred choice. Keep an eye on Amazon. Sometimes you can get a returned one cheap.

[@davidmeyer9204]

@@wittworks That is a good idea. You really sold me on the Makita. It's all your fault 😂

[@wittworks]

They’re so good. My friend Robert let me borrow his and I was ruined.

[@actionjksn]

I don't cut a ton of sheet goods and I'm pretty good at getting straight cuts with a circular saw and clamps and I have a decent table saw. But I am planning to get a track saw because I'm tired of dealing with the hassle, and because the prices have gotten better. I actually would have been open to a corded version of this, just to get started. I could live with all the plastic, even the plastic shoe. I could live with the janky dust collection, and the stupid riving knife. What makes it a non-starter for me is the proprietary track. I'm on the DeWalt battery system both 20 volt and 60 volt. So for cordless I'm probably going to go with that. What I would like to know is, how bad is it compared to something like Makita or some of the other good brands? Also if I get the DeWalt saw, what track should I get for it? I would like something that is inexpensive but still pretty good. How does the DeWalt track stack up compared to some of the other brands? I'm not really planning on getting festool brand just because of the price, and I don't really need the best, and I know there are some other really good ones for less money. One thing I do like about the DeWalt track is the double splinter guard. I was thinking I would devote one side to 90° cuts and the other one to 45° cuts. I'm guessing if you set it for 45°, it's going to mess up your clearance on your splinter guard.

[@MrJohnnyboyrebel]

Cheap track saws? Anything compared to Festool is “cheap”! Your points on the Ryobi saw are spot on. I’ll be getting something else. Something “cheap” I suppose. Thanks for a great video.

[@wittworks]

Ha. True. I still think the makita corded is the go to. Just as good as Festool at half the price.

[@SuperDeinVadda]

Well Festool ts55 is the best. Wouldn't want anything else

[@KahluaBomb]

Used to work with a guy who had Ryobi tools and said "when someone on the jobsite steals them, they're not as expensive to replace"

[@wittworks]

🤣🤣🤣

[@histguy101]

Nobody is gonna steal them. They're Ryobi. In fact, if you're in the US, you're pretty much safe using *any* brand besides Milwaukee. If I'm working around others subs, or plumbers or electricians, etc, I'll use Makita or Hitachi tools as much as possible, and keep close any Milwaukee stuff I have out(which isn't much anymore. Mostly nailers) and keep the truck locked, because they always all use Milwaukee. I can't remember the last time I saw anyone who wasn't using strictly Milwaukee, lol. They come up with all sorts of creative ways to mark their batteries, like spray painting the white, or wrapping them in a cocoon of electric tape

[@spanky4244]

Thanks for talking me out of this saw I was gonna buy it simply because I already have batteries

[@wittworks]

You’re welcome! I still have it and never use it. Still prefer my makita.

[@csimet]

Does it have issue... as you validly point out... yes! I agree with all your findings. Am I still probably going to get it... yes! For me and my occasional use to break down full 4x8' sheets before I can get them down to my basement shop's table saw, it will be perfect. It will do that job perfectly and I don't need cuts to be 100% accurate, way better than the straight edge and circular saw I use now (PITA to setup each cut). It is very affordable/portable compared to the competition and it uses batteries I already have on hand. $330 for the tool only seems reasonable.

[@wittworks]

It will work great for you! It was recently only sale for $70 off. Not sure if the sale is still going on. Battery platform is the biggest plus! You’ll probably be surprised by how accurate you can get the first time

[@1975oldschool]

Since I view myself as a tool snob too, it’s hard to justify getting this over a Kreg or Makita, unless you are seriously in the Ryobi line. But I think it will still do well!

[@wittworks]

Agreed.

[@VaughanHandyman]

I love Ryobis HP tools and have this saw. Everything you said was accurate.

[@wittworks]

Thank you Luke. The hp batteries seem to be much better.

[@Clint3571]

I just picked one of these up for $150 so I can't complain too much, but the foam on the tracks is not nearly as sticky as other brands. With Festool tracks, I do not feel the need to clamp at all.

[@urbanlumberjack]

I own a power tool from just about every major manufacturer. I buy Milwaukee for my heavy duty stuff, and used to think for anything lower grade I should buy rigid. I bought a set of rigid power tools and they turned out to be the biggest pieces of junk. Every single one of them. Yes, I know Milwaukee Ryobi and Ridgid are all owned by the same company. But Ridgid charges near Milwaukee prices for Ryobi quality. At least Ryobi doesn’t try to be something it’s not

[@wittworks]

Yeah, ridgid has gone down hill in recent years. The stuff I bought about 8 years ago was cheaper than dewalt and is still going strong. I haven’t purchased anything Milwaukee- but the track saw will be the first. Any day now!

[@scottbionicnerf8727]

This tool could get you out of a jamb, I guess. Long before Track Saws existed, I used a 48" straight edge and a couple c-clamps to hold the straight edge and the wood being cut so I could make my cut. Cutting an 8' long sheet of plywood was the worst to down straight. I usually just made a pencil line, and did my best.

[@luckyday5307]

I guess maybe I give myself away as being too old, set in my ways, but it seems redundant to have a rail and a circular saw and then go out and buy a separate track saw. Yes, perhaps if you're mass producing cabinets, but then you're not using batteries, and a table saw is the better fit, complete with set stops. The precision of the plunge cut is convenient, but hardly wort the extra money and space it takes. That being said, I love ryobi for the battery platform and hundreds of different tools it fits, cutting grass, spraying fruit trees, and bring the battery in and put it on a miter saw. And I am a pro and used ryobi tools when they were blue, and still have blue tools that don't miss a beat. The only small gripe I have is they seem to be a little bulkier than dewalt, but I think they actually last longer on their batteries, and beat dewalt all to heck on the price, so I'll stick with Ryobi.

[@tsoproducts6838]

Entertaining and informative as always, Drew! 😁👍We agree that it's unfortunate Ryobi chose a unique guide rail profile. It means our Guide Rail Squares and Parallel Guide Systems are not compatible. 😞

[@wittworks]

I know! BIG missed opportunity. Very sad.

[@anthonydtobias]

Great insight. I honestly bought a Wen track saw myself, I am definitely not a fan of it... Truthfully, it is my first track saw but I find it to be inaccurate... Honestly I have not used that much and when I do use it, it seems like it is hard to push while I cut causing it to probably move around just a bit, which is where the inaccurate cuts most likely comes from. I need to spend more time with it, It might just be me not setting it up, right? We're having something too tight but it's not something I reach for much.

[@wittworks]

Yeah I have the wen and don’t like it. My makita is a lot easier to dial in that friction so there’s no play in the track but is easy to push.

[@jacobdavis8164]

do you have any info on the table in the video?

[@wittworks]

I bought it in July and will be doing a review early 2023 on it. I like it. Here’s the 2x4 version: amzn.to/3FA6AIz I just bought the 4x8 a few days ago to try out. Haven’t received it yet from Bezos: amzn.to/3FyWDej They are surprisingly sturdy and collapse easily. This is the top I have: amzn.to/3h8Q8pf You can get 3/4” or 20mm dog hole sizes.

[@TheAsianVillain]

Imagine the one company that fought to be recognized as a viable, affordable tool brand amongst all the established brands--to becoming one of the many companies it complained about.

[@wittworks]

😁

[@bread-gz3rl]

The dust port is a standard size, festool and makita are the weird ones lmao.

[@wally7856]

facts

[@gkoshinsky]

How did you have ryobi green filament on hand to print that cover?

[@wittworks]

I found it on amazon earlier in the year. My brother printed some ryobi battery holders with it. I bought it to print some other ryobi accessories. Worked out!

[@jamesward5721]

A track for a tracksaw needs to be just bigger than 4' - because you'll be cutting sheet. The ideal track is 1 piece 8' 1" long - that track will do almost everything. Saw a guy yesterday with an 11' tracksaw track - 1 piece. Because he uses 10' sheet. I had track-envy - first time. Didn't even know they were a thing.

[@wittworks]

Nice!

[@grantfrith9589]

I've had the Festool for over a couple of decades. It's pretty beaten up but still cuts with beautiful precision. I mostly cut melamine on particle board but I used it daily for a number of years cutting acrylic benchtops, and lately stone benchtops. I know one day it must fail or lose its accuracy so it's really nice to see what else is available. I suspect I'll probably update mine to the latest Festool battery version given the chance but it's getting late in my career and the cost is pretty steep with so many other brands offering as amazing looking tools. Thanks for this review.

[@wittworks]

Thanks Grant! So cool it’s still running.

[@902384902384]

pretty sure that's the same track as the grizzly track saw which has been rebranded dozens of times for the past decade. Pretty sure WEN is the same track, w/ 100" for $60 I'm almost positive this is the same unit w/ same riving knife as the WEN/GRIZZLY tracksaw only adapted to battery Grizzly T25094 - clamps will probably work too. I got the corded saw w/ 110" of track for like $150 10 years ago

[@JoshuaGrover83]

Question for you, is there the capability to 3d print a new base plate or make an adaptor so it would fit in normal track rails???

[@wittworks]

Mmmmmmm. I guess technically all things are possible.

[@chuckschillingvideos]

Every Ryobi tool I have ever owned has failed on me - most shortly after purchase. I will never purchase another Ryobi under any circumstances.

[@corty1980]

Pity the Ryobi track saw isn't available here in Australia. I'am looking at getting a track saw to cut down plywood. I do have a circular saw which scares me to use and as a result I havn't used it much. Apart from the no name brands, the cheapest tracksaw is the Milwaukee, though thats almost $1000 for the Milwaubee skin and track.

[@allinadadsday]

thing is every category of people needs a tool. i have some ryobi, i have some parkside(we call it lidl tools here in the netherlands and they are even cheaper then ryobi but just as or better then ryobi). i have some bosch some black and decker ect ect. but i like to get a deal. and i just use it as a diy guy. i renovated my house with mostly ryobi. and i didnt treath it nicely. for example i mixed concrete with a normal cordless 18 drill. and not 5 pounds no 50 pounds at once and several loads one after another. yes the drill overheated and still is covered in concrete but still works like a charm. and i had 2 of them. the normal 18v circular saw suck it has no power so that is only used for light wood. the recipro saw i really mistreated and it gave up with some smoke but that was completly my fault. i used it to cut beams, osb ligth wood, tree's, tree stumps and yeah tree's are outside so it got wet several times and one day it gave up. for a normal guy/girl who does diy stuff. most brands are fine to get. but dont think that your local hardwarestore has dewalt, makita at discounts. i see a big price difference in those brands at a hardwarestore and a pro hardware store. they have different lines for pro's and diy'ers. and thank god fr brands like ryobi parkside ect that they bring so much stuff to market so people can atleast do things thereself. i got a ryobui impact driver a drill. a circular saw a worklight a multitool a heated glue gun, and a handgrinder with two nice bags to hold all the stuff and two batteries. for 700 bucks. and i all needed them at the time. it would get me a makita drill and impact driver for the same money. the recipro saw was a steal. it was 70 buck with a battery 2.0ah. wich cost like 63 bucks here and a charger so the saw was free basicly. the second drill i got for 130 bucks with 2 battery's so the drill was free. and had a nice case as did the saw. and those things are as good as the bigger brands if you look at what they cost and are above what a diy needs

[@necrojoe]

Did we ever figure out if any other longer tracks are compatible with the ryobi than the 2-piece 55"?

[@geographyinaction7814]

Ryobi has treated me well, I have rarely had an issue around the house or doing things like building decks or hot tub decks for my friends. Sometimes Ryobi is weird, the mitre channels on their table saws for instance. I will probably buy this, it is easier, safer, and quick for cutting down plywood, which I hate doing on the table saw. If I had a 40' square shop with pro table saw and outfeed tables I would still want a track saw for plywood. You could sell those 3D printed covers, I would have no issue paying proper money for something like that.

[@geographyinaction7814]

Quite obvious I threw that last comment in before finishing the video...I'm such a loser!!! LOL!

[@bencorley8687]

As a hobbyist I could overlook most of the stuff EXCEPT for the riving knife. That's just dumb. I'll go with Kreg instead.

[@wittworks]

Yes. Very dumb.

[@janvisser6643]

A plunge saw that can't plunge? I imagine a hobbyist trying to get the saw down.😅

[@wittworks]

Exactly!

[@3398halofreak]

Doesn't kerg make a track saw adaptor for circular saws?

[@wittworks]

Kinda. It’s called accucut and is trash. Everyone I’ve talked to says they throw it away.

[@hansangb]

You forgot one HUGE convenience for pro's. You can leave the saw in the back of the pickup without a cover and no one will steal it. You can't beat the east access. 😁. I'm kidding. I do have Ryobi's hot glue gun and love it. But I am using a DeWalt battery adapter.

[@wittworks]

I am laughing so hard right now. Totally right! I have that hot glue gun on my desk. Thinking about buying the heat gun too.

[@clownbaby420]

6:04 Riving knife. The big disappointment -- the very last item on the list of cons -- was the riving knife.

[@CarlosDavidFoto]

The proprietary track killed it for me at the price point. Heavily discounted and it becomes a maybe. Probably going with Wen.

[@wittworks]

Wen corded is okay. The new cordless is much better and refined.

[@psynautic]

I wonder if you could grind the riving knife down so that it only comes down after blade?

[@henri6595]

I'm still waiting for that Milwaukee Track Saw to hit Home Depot 🤣, otherwise I'll buy a Makita or Festool. The Festools paired with their dust extractors look amazing 👏 😍. Festool might have the best dust extractor I've seen minus the crazy high prices 🤔

[@wittworks]

me too. I check everyday. I'll have an early review on it.

[@oO-dn9mv]

A major, major misstep to use a proprietary track. This immediately eliminated it from serving as a back up or for buying it as a stepping stone. A compromised design with proprietary track = no thanks. That MSRP is also a joke of a price and the true value is somewhere around $200 for the kit, which is where it will settle in a couple of years.

[@wittworks]

Truer words have never been spoken!

[@johnjss]

Glad I got my Makita.

[@paulhopkins1905]

I could easily see a pro buying this saw. For someone that just needs to break down sheet goods on a job site, and just needs a reliable saw thats not too concerned with it walking away would be all over it

[@wittworks]

I’ve heard people say to buy this because no one would steal it! 🤪

[@paulhopkins1905]

@@wittworks lol people will steal anything, but a contractor can stomach losing a $400 saw way more tha a $1000 saw. Also, as with other Ryobi tools, I bet it can take a beating

[@Vidar93]

I actually honestly have a question, at least for me I have been able to find the ryobi saw for 300$, But the makita saw I have only seen for like 600ish which is double the price and at that point why not just bump up to the festool? I previously had makita everything, like thousands and thousands but they all got stolen so I have been slowly getting new tools back and have actually been pretty impressed with ryobi. But great review man

[@wittworks]

I bought my makita with a track for under $400 a few years ago. I’d like a festool, but many have said the makita is 99% as good for much less. But I haven’t used a festool.

[@Vidar93]

@@wittworks The local home depots have stopped carrying all but the most basic Makita stuff where I live which could be why because I've been looking to getting one recently and I just saw the saw itself for 430$ and the track for like another 90-100$ But if it is available at other places for about 400$ all together I can see what you mean expecially if you already have other Makita tools. I need to get one for a cabinet/ countertop project im doing to help my parents out and then work down the line, I actually also considered just using a 7 1/4 skillsaw and guide rail and just making the cuts that way which has worked fine before but with some of the more specialized cuts it definitely would be nice to use an actual track saw. I've used a festool tracksaw on a really expensive work project before that the company got and I loved that thing but if the Makita is close ill maybe look into that if they are that similar. Though the ryobi would probably be able to suit my needs my only real concern is the beveled cut thickness.

[@wittworks]

1) you can watch Amazon for returned makitas that are cheaper 2) wen may be a good option. Cheap ($97) and uses makita/Festool rails. I just bought another wen to do a video on. (First two I got were from a bad batch)

[@glennrobinson2014]

You can buy a Kreg track and sled system for, $100 at Home Depot and turn any circular saw into a virtual track saw.

[@wittworks]

Yes you can. And you can also return it when you learn it’s total trash 🤪. I’ve not met one person who has bought the accu rip (and wasn’t paid to promote it) who liked it. Most throw it away.

[@garyzimmerman8679]

The problem with all the tools is that none of the batteries can be used crops brands. I don’t want to buy multiple brands batteries. So one really needs to choose the brand ryobi, Milwaukee, dewalt, etc… I have ryobi. So I won’t use another brands tool, cause I don’t want to buy batteries that won’t work on every tool I have. So now I am stuck with ryobi. Also I am only using my tools at home. I’m not a proffessional

[@wittworks]

Thank you for sharing Gary. That’s why they’re “genius” (but it’s frustrating)

[@garyzimmerman8679]

@@wittworks I agree very frustrating. Because everyone also has tools that the other does not have and I want or need. So no matter what Brand of tools you choose. It will always be a catch 22.

[@wittworks]

Yes. 😔 I buy makita 18v for the nice stuff and Ryobi 18v for the one off stuff (like a hot glue gun!)

[@lako7531]

If something do have 10 things I hate I will never buy that. I use Ryobi, but not only Ryobi for that reason - I picked “best ones from”. A few days ago when I noticed Ryobi batteries are more expansive as ones from DW. Maybe no more Ryobi in my shop..

[@dbnoho]

The riving knife was the no go for me. I looked at this and once I’d seen it hangs lower than the blade does, I was out.

[@wittworks]

Yeah. Big fail.

[@Brandon-zo9ly]

I bought one of these shortly after they came out, for the most part, I like it, but the non standard track that I cant use a square on will be the reason I upgrade.

[@wittworks]

Thank you for sharing. That track is a huge failure.

[@Brandon-zo9ly]

@@wittworks i did discover on Etsy someone has made an adapter for a speed square. Im going to try that and see how it works.

[@wittworks]

That’s my friend! I did a video on it. It’s really good. kzbin.info/www/bejne/amawaX2soMx1gaM

[@bjrnulstrup5420]

My Festool turns off automatically when it kicks back but it's in another league I know

[@wittworks]

ANOTHER LEAUGE FOR SURE!

[@BillMacfarlane]

I’m not sure your cost comparisons make sense. I’ve been looking for a cordless track saw for some time, to replace my older very basic Grizzly track saw, so I’ve been tracking prices for about a year. The Makita, with battery, charger, and track is close to $600. That’s not “a few dollars more”. The Kreg at $299 is neither cordless or includes a track. What am I missing here? Is that a fair comparison?

[@wittworks]

It’s definitely the cheapest cordless. For a little more you can get a corded with much better quality. That’s assuming cordless is a convenience, and not a necessity.

[@BillMacfarlane]

@@wittworks ah, ok. Thank you for the clarification! In my scenario, yes, cordless is the primary criteria. I’m no cabinet maker, so the performance of my older corded track saw has been acceptable. But I do take it to different properties for projects, and the convenience of cordless is the main reason I’m looking at buying a new one. I also use a cordless vac, and it’s my understanding that the Ryobi dust port works with the common Ridgid hoses. Do you have any insight into this?

[@wittworks]

@@BillMacfarlane my ridgid hose wouldnt fit on it, but my amazon centec hose fit perfect. I can measure the openings for you in a bit

[@bread-gz3rl]

@@BillMacfarlane 1⅞ and 1¼

[@1stuncleslam]

I don't get how they make this saw without a 100 inch track. I think a track saw that can't rip standard sheet goods is useless. I'm still using tracks that I bought years ago that came with a base to attach to a standard circular saw. I can't find that unit for sale anymore but the one I have is still working fine. ( I have a dedicated saw I just leave on the base and use exclusively with the tracks) If I remember right I only paid about 100 bucks for that set up as well. Absolutely a no for me with a 55 inch track.

[@wittworks]

It’s mine boggling isn’t it?

[@bernardomartinezs]

Hola, puedes analizar la nueva ridgid track saw 18v, gracias