Why Should Western Cape Secede from South Africa? FULL LIVE DEBATE Cape Town

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@munyachikuni2368
@munyachikuni2368 10 ай бұрын
Why the hell is this debate being allowed in the first place this should be seen as a declaration of of war . Come on my south african people grow a backbone.
@aulenebeckford6268
@aulenebeckford6268 10 ай бұрын
For real! Imagine that!
@simanaken8400
@simanaken8400 10 ай бұрын
Cause civilized people gather to debate ideas not going about burning and destroying things to get what they want. They debate, and vote. Saves your time, resources and human life.
@munyachikuni2368
@munyachikuni2368 10 ай бұрын
@simanaken8400 yeah sure ,the same kind of civilised people who sat down to debate at the Berlin conference , the same kind who sat down to introduce apartheid , the same kind who sat down to invade Iraq , the same kind who sat down to invade Afghanistan , the same kind who sat down to destabilise Africa , the same kind of people who sat down and ordered the killing of Gaddafi , the same kind who are supporting the massacre of the Palestine people . Yeah I know those kind of civilised people.
@munyachikuni2368
@munyachikuni2368 10 ай бұрын
@simanaken8400 yeah I know those kind of civilised people . The kind who sat down at the Berlin conference , the same who sat down to introduce apartheid , the same kind who invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. The same who continue to destabilise Africa. Yeah I know those kind of civilised people who like to sit down and debate the destruction of others
@munyachikuni2368
@munyachikuni2368 10 ай бұрын
@simanaken8400 yeah I know those kind of civilised people , they are the same who sat down to introduce apartheid
@paulnbarros1400
@paulnbarros1400 10 ай бұрын
Who are Cape people that they're talking about? Does it include the poor of poorest ? These settlers need to be checked immediately.....
@edithmiller3114
@edithmiller3114 9 ай бұрын
I don't agree with this plan....but I must correct you. We are not settlers! We are South Africans!
@paulnbarros1400
@paulnbarros1400 9 ай бұрын
@edithmiller3114 point of correction, your ancestors were not indigenous Africans. Hence, you are perceived as settlers......
@edithmiller3114
@edithmiller3114 9 ай бұрын
@@paulnbarros1400 You are correct, of course. But...we do not think of ourselves as settlers.
@paulnbarros1400
@paulnbarros1400 9 ай бұрын
@edithmiller3114 Unfortunately, it's not about thoughts, but heritage........
@zodwareeby279
@zodwareeby279 9 ай бұрын
​@@edithmiller3114 You don't think yourselves as settlers...but your behavior leaves so much to be desired. You act like you rule this country and you practise apartheid in that province.
@thabisopharoo5605
@thabisopharoo5605 Жыл бұрын
Europeans should go look for land in Europe to call for succession
@aulenebeckford6268
@aulenebeckford6268 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@TshepoMokou
@TshepoMokou 9 ай бұрын
All land settlers should go back to their home lands and find land to call their owe.
@tobolee6385
@tobolee6385 9 ай бұрын
20 million comrades to be deported from Europe now ,,,,,
@AmoMoëti
@AmoMoëti 9 ай бұрын
Lack of reasoning capacity will makes you think every debate is about the race.
@axolilesobekwa3209
@axolilesobekwa3209 9 ай бұрын
​@@TshepoMokou homelands were created by Europeans remember?
@AzizaSayed-n5l
@AzizaSayed-n5l 10 ай бұрын
We don't need apartheid government again we live in the western cape
@wakandadada5963
@wakandadada5963 9 ай бұрын
Those who wants to get away from the rest of South Africa should voetsek to Europe period!
@romanussaal712
@romanussaal712 10 ай бұрын
We have European Dutch/German Settlers discuss what must happened with our Indegenous SongQuas KhoiSan land....That will never happen
@aulenebeckford6268
@aulenebeckford6268 10 ай бұрын
I hope not!!
@stevenwilliams3015
@stevenwilliams3015 9 ай бұрын
I wonder why such a debate should even be existing
@aem870
@aem870 2 ай бұрын
They are South Africans. I am a Black African who supports them.
@NM21375
@NM21375 Жыл бұрын
Imagine Chinese people telling the US that they want to scede every China town and become independent 🤔
@Namwenyomuwa371
@Namwenyomuwa371 10 ай бұрын
All the Chinese in America will of course be deported to China
@reteipegal7690
@reteipegal7690 10 ай бұрын
The Muslims has done this decades ago. They are now in your Parliament, Palistinian scarf and all. They already anexed your country. Forget aĺl this political dreams. The nightmare is around the corner.
@sammcpherson9555
@sammcpherson9555 9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@benstala37
@benstala37 7 ай бұрын
29May is only one day then you will see
@benstala37
@benstala37 7 ай бұрын
We will vote the ANC with our big numbers
@frankspokes5282
@frankspokes5282 9 ай бұрын
Should've invited the EFF to the debate just for the black radical voice
@aem870
@aem870 2 ай бұрын
Even Black people don't vote EFF. EFF hasn't grown.
@sxavarito
@sxavarito 9 ай бұрын
So y'all got an MI6 agent/spy in your panel and that agent/spy is the leader of the western cape succession movement🧐🧐🧐
@yusrieadams8280
@yusrieadams8280 9 ай бұрын
Not to mention the CIA has infiltrated the DA
@shandukanimakuya2473
@shandukanimakuya2473 8 ай бұрын
British, you have Britain, Boers, you have Netherlands or Holland, French, you have France waiting for its Sons and Daughters. Western Cape is part and parcel of South Africa
@miningape
@miningape 6 ай бұрын
How exactly do you think this works? They just show up in Britain and everything works out? As a white south african who has left to Europe, every day is a constant battle against their bureaucracy, they do not want us here and South Africa is our country, we don't have another passport we can fall on so we are trapped in Africa, ruled by people like you who hate us.
@andilefavouredmcforlen3471
@andilefavouredmcforlen3471 9 ай бұрын
Craig, an MI6 agent, advocating for secession of WC, in SA.
@glorialubemba3986
@glorialubemba3986 9 ай бұрын
The last time I checked, you arrived, with a ship from Holland, you didn't come with land, you left your land in Holland.
@malkaheminah
@malkaheminah 9 ай бұрын
Deep! ❤
@johnlouw6449
@johnlouw6449 9 ай бұрын
Your ancestors hadn't even arrived in 1652. Those that were there were busy slaughtering the xhoisan.Go back to school. Even better Google it.
@BermudaCircle88
@BermudaCircle88 9 ай бұрын
​@@johnlouw6449yeah African history told to you by Europeans. Very credible
@johnlouw6449
@johnlouw6449 9 ай бұрын
@@BermudaCircle88 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😇😅😅
@factandtruth1022
@factandtruth1022 9 ай бұрын
And the last time I checked, he was the guy that created what YOU have today. Maybe you right, maybe he should go back to Holland and take his tar roads, dams, electricity, clothes, cell phones, buildings etc and leave mud huts behind. Oops, sorry I missed out the wheel....
@glorialubemba3986
@glorialubemba3986 9 ай бұрын
Europe is free Why ask for freedom in Africa ?
@lightningRatPack
@lightningRatPack 7 ай бұрын
congo is free why dont you go there
@studioorigami7463
@studioorigami7463 7 ай бұрын
​@@lightningRatPackapartheid nonsensical history that Africans came from Congo and found whites in South AFRICA. Good stuff
@lightningRatPack
@lightningRatPack 7 ай бұрын
@@studioorigami7463 blacks are nonsensical and entailed to believe that they own everything because they are black. common talking point for racist lazy blacks.
@mdralo6361
@mdralo6361 6 ай бұрын
@@glorialubemba3986 There's nothing exciting there! Most of the people are cold as their weather. I wouldn't have been there if it wasn't for international symposium presentation.
@kabomathibela4232
@kabomathibela4232 3 ай бұрын
​@@lightningRatPackUkraine is free and they need your kind why don't you go there
@jackspratt9247
@jackspratt9247 9 ай бұрын
Usual tactics, divide and conquer. Once divided, grow your military and take over by force. Same old game the world over. Don't let them divide non of Africa. United we stand,divided we fall.😠😠
@hermanmyburgh8082
@hermanmyburgh8082 2 жыл бұрын
VF should send the representative of the DA a box of wine - she just gave them a huge boost in membership...
@siviwemalinde223
@siviwemalinde223 2 жыл бұрын
Forget you will never divide South Africa
@residentalien310
@residentalien310 11 ай бұрын
Interesting, I ve never seen colonialism being discussed so openly on a round table. The last time it happened was in Berlin Conference in 1884. It will fail dismally
@aulenebeckford6268
@aulenebeckford6268 10 ай бұрын
The audacity!
@davidcharlesjordaan4248
@davidcharlesjordaan4248 9 ай бұрын
I can't believe that every New Political Party in the Western Cape does not raise the unequal Laws and policies in the Fisheries Industry.
@KabiroCeesay-l7i
@KabiroCeesay-l7i 10 ай бұрын
This is Africa point blank
@WorldViewPodcasts
@WorldViewPodcasts 2 жыл бұрын
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@vallivergano239
@vallivergano239 9 ай бұрын
Please pin 📌
@santamills8638
@santamills8638 2 жыл бұрын
Everything Vytjie said about Independent Cape could be said about Namibia. It was South West Africa and part of South Africa. We had the same language and culture.
@desocrate
@desocrate 2 жыл бұрын
100%
@geraldlekhowane8736
@geraldlekhowane8736 2 жыл бұрын
Can't compare the two way to different
@dorrienvenables3057
@dorrienvenables3057 2 жыл бұрын
@@joedonner9476 at least ActionSA has ejected her, they would do well to try not recycle former ANC Cadres, though they don't seem to have learnt their lesson and have now just done that again with their Mpumalanga provincial chairperson.
@ebrahimprice2154
@ebrahimprice2154 Жыл бұрын
South West Africa was never part of South Africa. SWA was mandated by the League of Nations to the care of SA. Go do the research if you want to know more. Ignorance is no excuse when making public statements in this internet age.
@dejaneiroinvestments188
@dejaneiroinvestments188 Жыл бұрын
Namibia was never part of SOUTH AFRICA,, and is the DA not pro-Apartheid to start with. Afrikaans was imposed to our fathers. What audacity to come in as settlers, pushing out the rightful owners ( SAN, KHOI-KHOI and the Bantu people) and now what to claim it as your own country.. " The Dutch East India Company (in the Dutch of the day: Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie, or VOC) decided to establish a permanent settlement at the Cape in 1652."
@afrikanking0118
@afrikanking0118 11 ай бұрын
Fokof back to Netherland
@evansmbula984
@evansmbula984 9 ай бұрын
Whites and Blacks should come together to run one direction to improve South Africa,the days of selfish in south Africa is gone.
@sammcpherson9555
@sammcpherson9555 9 ай бұрын
This is why there needs to be a united continent of Africa
@dianeerasmus5306
@dianeerasmus5306 Жыл бұрын
So nice to listen to this debate cos it shows different perspectives and issues that we can reflect on and problems that would need to be addressed in order for all to transition smoothly. I’m all for changing to a new system of governance.
@ketiboablay8632
@ketiboablay8632 10 ай бұрын
I am sad as an African to see South Africa fail under Africans for 28 years.
@merchantcharles1954
@merchantcharles1954 9 ай бұрын
Get an education. Stop depending on the news for your information.
@kabomathibela4232
@kabomathibela4232 3 ай бұрын
What African runs anything in SA, take time before posting ..sh
@blessingkhanyile2500
@blessingkhanyile2500 9 ай бұрын
Can British black people in UK do that ? do you think native white British people would allow it ? or black people in Netherlands can they do the same , i doubt the answer i no. so Africans will always be undermined .
@Noisypig-n2i
@Noisypig-n2i 9 ай бұрын
😂never
@sergiopinto6004
@sergiopinto6004 10 ай бұрын
It will be nice if we keep the Western Cape as the Mother City of South Africa. I say vote out the existing government and save the whole South Africa. Without the Western Cape the rest of the country has no roots ... we’ve come thus far together, I believe that we can succeed and conquer together, ons vir Jou Suid Afrika
@Fezz016
@Fezz016 9 ай бұрын
"..... It means go and speak to Black people, not against and do not be perceived to be against. Go and speak to them and say, there is an alternative. But if you do not have the language, if you do not have the attitude, if you do not have the humility and you do not have the ability to speak that language... you will forever remain a depressed and a despairing minority." - Ebrahim Rasool Powerful!! Now imagine listening to/or taking serious a British citizen called Phil Graig whose SA citizenship is younger than our Democracy... Of course he was sent here to further fragment us and further divide us to serve her majesty's interests, it is not a joke. Yes! The ANC has to be voted out, but this country does not need division and the West Cape is not going anywhere!! Whether Britain likes it or not... The Cape is Azanian land!!
@spunakesupile9432
@spunakesupile9432 9 ай бұрын
That thought is very dangerous. It shouldn't be given the breathing space.
@luckysolomonadejo5933
@luckysolomonadejo5933 9 ай бұрын
Shame on this opportunists who have enjoyed African hospitality
@gracesunday2391
@gracesunday2391 9 ай бұрын
No Africa has come to realization that it is time to become only African live in Africa. I repeat Africa is moving toward independent Africa just like African in the white country. Africa is where we as African should has rights.
@stevecrozet306
@stevecrozet306 2 жыл бұрын
stick together and vote the anc out
@thomasgosling5155
@thomasgosling5155 2 жыл бұрын
The Cape, if granted independence, would be like a seed landing in fertile soil, growing big and strong sharing it’s fruits with the rest of South Africa.
@thomasgosling5155
@thomasgosling5155 2 жыл бұрын
@@motionenergy808 you sir have absolutely no idea what Cape Independence is about. I suggest you do a little research before making a complete ass of yourself.
@mikestephen7097
@mikestephen7097 2 жыл бұрын
it actually would not, it would be a disastrous state that breeds all sort of racists and narcissists. especially those who refuse to integrate
@thomasgosling5155
@thomasgosling5155 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikestephen7097 Mike, you got it wrong mate.
@carlylefortune852
@carlylefortune852 2 жыл бұрын
Mike are you from Cpt?
@ibwhite285
@ibwhite285 2 жыл бұрын
With the Help and technology of countries like America & Israel WC will be Unstoppable! Israel can help with the large fencing and special sensors for borders control against the EFF types that would want to destroy the WC because it would be the only first World nation and a “Switzerland” of Africa. The American People will give millions in donations and the American government will give even more and provide a sense of security because they are only a few minutes away by jet or Drone and 2 hours away with airborne if they were to break in and start being violent on a large scale. Just until the new country is totally able to defend it’s self.
@AliyiahChowan
@AliyiahChowan 9 ай бұрын
We don't need this,what we need is provide more employment,the crime rate in Cape Town is high.The whole of South Africa needs change when it comes to governments.
@malkaheminah
@malkaheminah 9 ай бұрын
There's no such thing as eastern, western cape....ridiculous. Return to South African Court bc there are people are in violation of the Peace & Reconcilliation Agreement. Criminals are reasserting power but are currently in violation of South African Law. Areest Them. The Court MUST Act!!!
@KearnsMorris
@KearnsMorris Жыл бұрын
Both my parents lived to see a new SA free of Apartheid. I want to live to see a free Western Cape, free of the ANC and reversed Apartheid.
@stcroix7722
@stcroix7722 10 ай бұрын
Both your parents if from the British or dutch needs to Leave south Africa because that's not your country ,or land. Tired of you vipers. Enough is enough.
@rashida2866
@rashida2866 9 ай бұрын
There should be no debate of separation of South African expetially by White's
@Punker23
@Punker23 9 ай бұрын
Agree. We need to get ANC out of gvt
@doreenmusson4891
@doreenmusson4891 2 жыл бұрын
Capexit your basis for secession is weak. Corruption cannot be a rationale. The Nats were also corrupt and the word secession never existed. Please raise the level of such an important debate
@AzizaSayed-n5l
@AzizaSayed-n5l 10 ай бұрын
We south Africans must get rid of the DA we don't need racist government we live in the western cape but wil never vote for apartheid DA
@sicko_the_ew
@sicko_the_ew 2 жыл бұрын
With an independent Cape, you could create conditions in which your biggest industry was the international retirement industry. (Conditions to truly make that work would be reduced crime, for starters.) Think about it: When it's Summer in the Cape, it's Winter in the Northern Hemisphere. It's a perfect time for someone with a "Cape Retirement Plan" to fly South, and just skip the Winter. (It would even be a Green industry. "Swallows" leaving their Winter behind would not be heating their Northern homes. And then come the Cape Winter, you might have a big migration back to the Northern Summer.) In climate terms, of course, this kind of thing is notionally possible for the whole of South Africa, but there's an impediment called the ANC in the way, just like there's an ANC standing in the way of most things. At a minimum, you need control of your own immigration laws to make something like that feasible.
@maseratifittipaldi
@maseratifittipaldi 2 жыл бұрын
Typical ANC : 40 % of people in the WC dependent on SASSA grants - so they must remain under the yoke of the ANC ? !! It is exactly because of this ANC mismanagement that the WC should get rid of the ANC and go it alone.
@lionelsmith6129
@lionelsmith6129 7 ай бұрын
We do not want the corrupt ANC... in the western cape. All the people can live here, no problem.
@AzizaSayed-n5l
@AzizaSayed-n5l 10 ай бұрын
The EFF and the ANC must get rid of the DA
@loyisonongxa5954
@loyisonongxa5954 10 ай бұрын
A majority of voters in the Western Cape cannot deprive the rest of South African citizens their rights within all of South Africa, including the Western Cape.
@miningape
@miningape 6 ай бұрын
What rights? To bring corruption and violence to the entire country? No thank you.
@NathanSyster
@NathanSyster 6 ай бұрын
And a majority of voters in South Africa cannot deprive the native people of the cape their rights too... The people have to accept that fact the same way we have to accept the Ingonyama trust and all other benefits that only blacks recieve... If the Zulus can have their land and homeland surely we can too... Stop using the whites to canvas this issue the Natives want their land back from White and Black land thefts...
@JosephErnest-z1j
@JosephErnest-z1j 10 ай бұрын
I salute you Mr Abrahim Rasool.
@andreiofick9543
@andreiofick9543 9 ай бұрын
Very informative debate. It is great to see a adult conversation with no screaming and or dancing. THANK YOU.
@AmoMoëti
@AmoMoëti 9 ай бұрын
If EFF and ANC were in the room, debate was not even gonna finish and concluded. So I think you and I now know who are the real problems in South Africa
@lesliecarels1078
@lesliecarels1078 Жыл бұрын
Please re-look the stats Ebrahim. Using stats SA I got to a position that the Western Cape contributes 17% to the national revenue, but only receives 3.6 % of the national expenditure for their effort.
@marybiggs3804
@marybiggs3804 Жыл бұрын
We need people with integrity, morals, values and God fear!
@mansamusa6505
@mansamusa6505 10 ай бұрын
Yeah we need Apartheid beneficiaries
@patmdoda9567
@patmdoda9567 10 ай бұрын
Non of the bastards talking here have these values
@thembakhumalo-li7bl
@thembakhumalo-li7bl 10 ай бұрын
You want a passport to visit Gauteng, or Bloemfontein? No more Currie Cup? What happens to those families from Western Cape working in Gauteng, and vice versa?
@jnicolettebailey
@jnicolettebailey 2 жыл бұрын
As if the opinion of professional politicians (who have been living off our tax money for decades) matters.... Why not ask the ordinary tax payer ?
@pierrerizzo9540
@pierrerizzo9540 10 ай бұрын
They did very little for 25 years. Now they have a lot to say. Agree with you. The FF+ had an opportunity in the beginning and did nothing. Insured they get their gravy and live like kings.
@NtokozoPearlKhaula-et3vi
@NtokozoPearlKhaula-et3vi 10 ай бұрын
True
@kingtutsirai994
@kingtutsirai994 10 ай бұрын
ANC should start relocating blacks to the Cape
@pierrerizzo9540
@pierrerizzo9540 10 ай бұрын
Just so they can be repatriated later on. Typical Clever idea .
@NathanSyster
@NathanSyster 6 ай бұрын
PA should start relocating Coloureds and Whites and Indians to KZN and Eastern Cape and give then lands and jobs and scrap the Ingonyama trust...PA should also scrap this BBBEE and Affirmative Action bullshit that only benefits Bantus not us Natives... THE ANC should rather relocate blacks back home to Zimbabwe and Congo and the whites back to Holland and England and leave us Natives to our land
@kabomathibela4232
@kabomathibela4232 3 ай бұрын
​@@pierrerizzo9540repatriated by who, your kind.. You think this is still the 1800's we have guns too and and more times than you. Keep pushing your Zionist nonsense you'll find your self in the TelAviv
@veronicapetersen8915
@veronicapetersen8915 Жыл бұрын
First we must reckonise the Khoisan people of this land, before we think of making the Western Cape independence. Khoisan must first have their say. Just a reminder, Malay is an immigrant to this country just like the the others. Khoi is Christian, and Malay has disrepected us long enough in our own country. Everyone must keep quiet and get the first people of the land to decide how things must be done. Malay is an incomer, and it's time for the incomer to be reminded of it.. This is why Malay thinks nothing of giving Khoi land to the ANC. Malay must take a back seat and shut up.Khoisan stand up for your land. Malay helped the ANC to destroy Khoisan land because it's not theirs, they did enough damages to our land.
@rainwilson2105
@rainwilson2105 Жыл бұрын
Xhosa people are also Khoison , what now?
@dianeerasmus5306
@dianeerasmus5306 Жыл бұрын
I believe when the cape becomes independent we will prove to the rest of SA that we can be a rainbow nation that work together to prosper the Western Cape. I really believe we can shine a light on how to succeed and perhaps other areas will follow.
@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb
@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb Жыл бұрын
Cape Towns rainbow nation utopia failed when Cape Town failed to deliver on a 19 year promise of land preceedobg to 94 and after capturing the NP and using the NP as DP officials of Cape Town to label white South Africans as the apartheid protagonists after we disbanded apartheid in the 70s under John Vortster! Isn't it Helen Zille with the ANC's Cyril Rhamaposa that put the lie and failed referendum on the back burner? Didn't Cape Town remove South Africa religious freedoms in 96 when your DA removed christianity from schools in the rest of the country? We going to burn the woke whites of Cape Town into the ground if you think your DA or Cape Town corporates will reinstate capitalism and lead over white SA! Cape Town will be the first to fall if you think you going to ceceed and leave white South Africans homeless and under the DA... Every South African outside of Cape Town will revolt including blacks, Cape Town is the sole reason not the ANC why white SA is a quarter of its size it was in 94' How much more damage do you secular liberal degenerates want to create. White South Africa will rather die before we bend the knee to Cape Town who our taxes fund! You a paltry minority and stand zero chance when whites March you out this country before we turn on illegals you keep importing. Best you tell your precious little DA troglodytes that land is paramount to any reconciliation... Corporate SA will not survive white South Africans not partaking and again the liberals will not rule over whites. You've had 50 years and noone has changed there minds regarding liberals. Please do try screw white SA over, we have decades of hatred and need little motivation to invade and decimate western cape! Keep it up
@WalterWhite-bc8ck
@WalterWhite-bc8ck 10 ай бұрын
Under who's rule? Who owns majority of the land😑???😂😂😂 Who Will be a slave and who will be the master...
@SimonGordon-v9p
@SimonGordon-v9p 10 ай бұрын
Only rainbow is in the sky where it belongs
@stevenwilliams3015
@stevenwilliams3015 9 ай бұрын
Under who's land? European seeking yo own a country in Africa. You guys got balls. Go back to Europe and form another country
@giulzrocks
@giulzrocks 2 жыл бұрын
fantastic production guys. Keep up the good work
@WorldViewPodcasts
@WorldViewPodcasts 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Dr-Bosire
@Dr-Bosire 10 ай бұрын
Go to Europe nonsense.
@muhammadkhani7917
@muhammadkhani7917 9 ай бұрын
Boolshet
@1amAfrica
@1amAfrica 9 ай бұрын
Never new the D.A. was for unity till now they should be louder about that instead of trying to discredit other parties.
@rickeyhill-tq1ty
@rickeyhill-tq1ty 9 ай бұрын
Poor Nelson you spent all those years in jail for nothing
@ndamanekandamanei1965
@ndamanekandamanei1965 9 ай бұрын
For the first time l have had a privileged private view to the soul and mind of apartheid sympathizers. The exit project is afrikaaner driven.
@thulanelindazaukana4643
@thulanelindazaukana4643 10 ай бұрын
The DA woman is sober minded too
@cheesecakecartel5022
@cheesecakecartel5022 9 ай бұрын
Under normal circumstances I wouldn’t ever support the DA but their representative on this agenda is speaking sense.
@JosephErnest-z1j
@JosephErnest-z1j 10 ай бұрын
2%:Parties want t rule. Some remarks makes me worry .Colonists wants divide our country. What shocks me most was the reference to Afrucan culture as alien.
@sauveurdorcilien888
@sauveurdorcilien888 9 ай бұрын
They have some nerve asking to succeed from some thing that dont belong to them
@christiandewitt7459
@christiandewitt7459 2 жыл бұрын
Its easy to poop on the idea of a referendum, but the last referendum held in South Africa has undoubtedly had the biggest positive change South Africa has ever seen.
@afrotelmobile
@afrotelmobile Жыл бұрын
This is not about governance, I see Racial divide and white monopoly capital playing out.
@troy1709-h5f
@troy1709-h5f Жыл бұрын
You have been brainwashed by Bell Pottinger propaganda, paid for by the Guptas. Change your 'tongue'...
@Bunfire123
@Bunfire123 11 ай бұрын
I’m an outsider, but even I can see through it.
@emanuelhleza7612
@emanuelhleza7612 10 ай бұрын
This Boar is talking nonsense because I am from Cape Town and I have a family and my daughter still in Eastern Cape in Port Elizabeth my twins boys was born in Johannesburg so seceded from South Africa will be a Big problems
@tomatobrush3283
@tomatobrush3283 Жыл бұрын
Break up SA with four countries on pre 1994 provincial borders?
@goodbarbenie5477
@goodbarbenie5477 2 жыл бұрын
The ANC and Ramaphosa has decided to establish an Iron and Steel company to combat joblessness. Where by the workers wives will go home to Iron while their husbands will go out to Steel.... Whooooha...
@faniegreyling7949
@faniegreyling7949 10 ай бұрын
Thanks to Ebrahim Rasool he buggered up the WC to such an extent that they kicked the ANC out. Thanks ER you did the WC a moer of a favour
@tebogomohlapamaswe39
@tebogomohlapamaswe39 9 ай бұрын
Mr Ibrahim Rasoul, you are profound!!!
@Starsky1413
@Starsky1413 9 ай бұрын
Only way forward is to make each province and independent state
@abbibindivhu1195
@abbibindivhu1195 9 ай бұрын
Other home land independent is what you think, just forget .not in Africa and South Africa. There no nuwe state that is going to be formed here.your dividing thoughts will never ever work in South Africa
@BermudaCircle88
@BermudaCircle88 9 ай бұрын
if war is what you want, then war is what you'll get. Cape Independence our ass'. We have families there. And theres no way in hell i will be needing a passport to go to Cape Town just to visit family. Just cos you have no place to call home on this continent, dont ever for one second think you'll be wondering around creating a little Europe HERE. OVER OUR DEAD BODIES
@Toffie10
@Toffie10 2 жыл бұрын
Mr, Rasool, you claimed 4 hospitals and 5 universities within a 25 km range in Cape Town? Who build it? The CANCer? No sir, you got no claim to fame!!!!!
@amandadelport6394
@amandadelport6394 2 жыл бұрын
I agree 💯% with you 👌
@cheesecakecartel5022
@cheesecakecartel5022 9 ай бұрын
It was the Nazi Party
@dorrienvenables3057
@dorrienvenables3057 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work Donald, hopefully there may be more debates like this. I find the DA representatives remarks somewhat disparaging, I'm quite sure there will be a Western Cape provincial coalition in 2024, they need to be wary of dismissing this topic and how it may affect their electoral support, considering the number of 'current' DA voters who support a secession movement or at the least having a referendum on the topic.
@WorldViewPodcasts
@WorldViewPodcasts 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! There will be another one the 18th of August.
@lumnmlonyeni821
@lumnmlonyeni821 2 жыл бұрын
First Clea those foreigners Yoh they are making sa a mass look at wyneberg bellvell selling drugs in front of the police da must act fast
@thulanelindazaukana4643
@thulanelindazaukana4643 10 ай бұрын
Mr rasool and miss mentor are sober in their debate on this one....
@malkaheminah
@malkaheminah 9 ай бұрын
Change the name of the area BACK to the African name.
@davidmotlaloe5628
@davidmotlaloe5628 2 жыл бұрын
They want to bring back apartheid flag🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Noisypig-n2i
@Noisypig-n2i 9 ай бұрын
😂It's already happening
@Pamoja1981
@Pamoja1981 10 ай бұрын
These people claiming Cape independent should be charged with treason.
@tebogomohlapamaswe39
@tebogomohlapamaswe39 9 ай бұрын
If the CapeExit (out of SA) were to eventually happen, which won't, they would eventually want to exit also from the continent. We cant have Europe on African soil!
@patrictshwenyane5819
@patrictshwenyane5819 9 ай бұрын
Mr. Rasool, your intelligence and vision is impeccable, keep on leading us. They are scared of elections and opt for non-binding referendums.
@mikhaelxm
@mikhaelxm Жыл бұрын
ActionSA is appalling in their understanding of democracy, holy cow! They seem to think that the majority of the WC should be held prisoner by the majority of the country, OUTSIDE the province. WTF????
@akhelethumatikinca6500
@akhelethumatikinca6500 2 жыл бұрын
KEEP DREAMING 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@carlylefortune852
@carlylefortune852 2 жыл бұрын
Wheres the CCC? You can't have a debate without the CCC...
@edenbeth
@edenbeth 9 ай бұрын
What's that?
@natashavdb3481
@natashavdb3481 Жыл бұрын
We are busy semigrating from Gauteng to Western Cape - Garden route, we have a choice between immigration and taking our tax money out of SA altogether or semigrating to Western Cape in support of Western cape becoming independent from Corupt, criminal ANC government. We intend on opening a business in Western Cape and creating jobs for young adults in Western cape. Fully and excitedly in support of this movement. This is the solution. Nobody trusts nor will ever trust criminal ANC again. This movement is not a racial movement, Western cape is filled with people of all races. I myself am in a mixed race relationship, so it's not a racial thing it's a criminal thing. We choose to remove ourselves from a criminal government that is completely useless.
@arkuis
@arkuis Жыл бұрын
This is a very good discussion on Western Cape independence. Gives a collection of well thought through possitions on the issue and presented in a balanced way. MUCH BETTER than the debate on the same issue that Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh did on the SABC.
@richern2717
@richern2717 2 жыл бұрын
Don't know if I understood wrongly but it sounds like the DA is blaming people who participated in voting for the current mess in SA ? So participation makes you guilty because you support the system and therefore have to accept the results ? So called opposition parties have played ping-pong with peoples emotions for far too long. That carrot in front of the nose looks like biltong stick by now. Each time the disappointment becomes twice as difficult to overcome....
@mentalhealth9637
@mentalhealth9637 9 ай бұрын
The rainbow dream is not dead, and its worth fighting for. South africa is not complete without the other provinces. Ppl in other provinces are also counting on us, to help them out of the clutches of corruption.
@patrictshwenyane5819
@patrictshwenyane5819 9 ай бұрын
They talk about educating the voters to vote ANC out. I have bad news for you, no propaganda will convince us to not vote for the ANC. I had some thoughts of not voting for the ANC in 2024 elections but you have just convinced me to vote for them both on provincial and National. So ANC here comes my vote and those of more that half of the SA voting public.
@Johann291
@Johann291 10 ай бұрын
Amen! Change the SYSTEM! PEOPLE MUST HAVE DIRECT ELECTIONS! We don't need POLITICAL PARTIES, WE THE PEOPLE want to elect our leaders!
@FariedaLukie
@FariedaLukie 9 ай бұрын
Tried lowering the background sound is distracting
@randomstuff5869
@randomstuff5869 9 ай бұрын
Where are coloureds people and xhosas bcz its gonna be them who are gonna be at the end of the stick
@thulanelindazaukana4643
@thulanelindazaukana4643 10 ай бұрын
What does the VF want to do with the rest of its voters in the rest of the countries?
@innocentmuluwe8246
@innocentmuluwe8246 9 ай бұрын
I am appalled by this nonsense! Is there a government in South Africa?
@ContentBanjo-hp7sw
@ContentBanjo-hp7sw 10 ай бұрын
One Africa no stirring up of war as in the days of apartheid
@Patrick-tv8yr
@Patrick-tv8yr 2 жыл бұрын
What is worrying is that the ANC will have to give in to the EFF demands to get their support.
@PeterJohnJnb
@PeterJohnJnb Жыл бұрын
Opponents of secession don't even realise that they are themselves making a fine case for secession! No one says it's going to be easy, but my word, certainly the struggle has to be worth it! And all of these people that are banging on about 'South Africa' has a lot to offer, ja we know that but for 28 years we've known it too - shall we wait another 28 years before those promises come into fruition? EDIT: That woman from the DA doesn't have a CLUE about what she is talking about!!!
@SifisoMoloi-v5v
@SifisoMoloi-v5v 9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 That won't happen not in our motherland ❤🇿🇦
@patwakushantie
@patwakushantie 10 ай бұрын
Who is this man talking about independence, so now the colonizer want their own country … corruption is everywhere and africa will not be separated regardless of what you and your friends thinks…. Nonsense
@pierrerizzo9540
@pierrerizzo9540 10 ай бұрын
Colonizer? I go back 7 generations . Can you go back 3? Unbelievable!!
@hantieprins3891
@hantieprins3891 2 жыл бұрын
OH, and thank you Mr Rasool for the information on how many of our people are struggling to eke out a living on social grants etc. The numbers are very interesting and tells it's own disgraceful story of maladministration and corruption. You just made our case for us. May I compliment you on how well turned out you happen to be... glossy, content and well fed. Pity it cannot be said of the people you have screwed over now for almost thirty years.
@lusanimukhavhuli5696
@lusanimukhavhuli5696 10 ай бұрын
Who is We?
@buravan1512
@buravan1512 9 ай бұрын
"W" People 😂
@lawrenceletlhatlhe8525
@lawrenceletlhatlhe8525 Жыл бұрын
In this case maybe batswana need smbody to put thmslf together n build again a Tswana nation like bophothatswana .
@vryburgervanniekaap8055
@vryburgervanniekaap8055 2 жыл бұрын
Mr Rasool says we have to vote the ANC out of power, yet he himself remains a loyal cadre and continuous to support the ANC. Pity nobody asked him who he voted for in the last election.
@veronicakarstel9126
@veronicakarstel9126 2 жыл бұрын
They sent him to USA to hide for stuffing up CT
@Stabizzie
@Stabizzie 9 ай бұрын
Well this didn’t age very well…. 😅
@hermanfyfer5990
@hermanfyfer5990 2 жыл бұрын
Listening to all these participant's I realized that the only solution is the Orania model for the different culture groups.The ANC will never handover power peacefully and if they do the next African ruling party will be even more radical and destructive.The only way the independance of the Western Cape will succeed is if they introduce a law that each cultural community do their own labour.No cheap or cross the border labour should be allowed between the different groups,that's the golden rule otherwise we are back to square one. I must congratulate the VF+ with their well prepared presentation.
@patrickskosanajabu4412
@patrickskosanajabu4412 Жыл бұрын
It's good to dream, but sometimes dreams can be just that, dreams. What the Cape Party won't tell you is that the reason they want the WC to secede is that whites are no longer in charge. Sure they'll moan about the state of economy, corruption, crime rates etc., which are valid things, but are no reasons for secession. Time truly is the ultimate truth teller, as the facade about the “rainbow nation” slowly falls, nearly 3 decades after democracy. It's starting to emerge that some white people in this country are not interested in nation building (Orania anyone?) and working with the black majority for the greater good of the country. It's what happens when you “forgive” folks who aren't sorry. Why else would they want their own separate town, (where whites are dominant & have their own currency, the ora instead of the Rand)? Because they feel marginalized? They're being persecuted? No, it's because some white people in this country can't stomach the fact that they have to “share” the wealth, resources, land and live with the blacks whom they treated as animals for centuries. Hence, the need, in their view, that the Western Cape should become an independent country. The Western Cape has nearly thirty years of voting history that shows they're racists. They never accepted the fact that South Africa is ruled by a black government.
@jamdee6
@jamdee6 Жыл бұрын
Like I said. Y'all want to resurrect apartheid so bad. Enough already.
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