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@My-Your-Recovery Жыл бұрын
This has worked out much better than the injections for me.
@TRTandHormoneOptimization Жыл бұрын
Awesome to hear that!
@Kampup Жыл бұрын
what does the 20% cream cost per month in the uk or europe? thanks
@aronbarocsi9 ай бұрын
whats the brand? how can we get it? Im prescribed Nebido I would try cream first.
@krane155 ай бұрын
How can a cream be better the a direct injection? You have no way to tell how much test is getting absorbed.
@whatever_it_takes66915 ай бұрын
@@krane15You want to pin yourself every day? Because that's what it is going to take to get the stable test levels that the cream provides.
@WJHandyDad Жыл бұрын
I was talking to a friend and he said he was Rx'd the gel and found zero benefit. I told him about this channel and told him to check into the cream if he can't do shots. And then today this video popped up on my feed so I'll have to tell him to check it out!
@TRTandHormoneOptimization Жыл бұрын
Sure thing!! Cream is easy and much more effective than gels! Thanks for sharing!
@TRTforLIFE3 ай бұрын
I started out with a total testosterone of 238. I had bloodwork done six weeks after starting compounded testosterone cream 15% (not gel) and my total testosterone after six weeks was 1068! The free testosterone was up to 254. I felt like a primal beast. The only downside was my estradiol level was 70 (twice the high normal) and about a week before my appointment I was getting palpitations. I'm on Anastrozole now to control my estrogen and the palpitations are gone. I was told by a coworker that injects that there was no way I would get my numbers up high enough to matter if I used the cream. I showed him my test results and now he is a believer.
@Edibleaccents16 күн бұрын
Scrotal applications?
@TRTforLIFE12 күн бұрын
@@Edibleaccents yes, the compounded creams (not the commercial gels) are applied scrotal or inner thigh.
@dalef186012 күн бұрын
@@TRTforLIFEhow many clicks do you use ? Do you do it twice a day?
@freedominsteadof1984 Жыл бұрын
Interesting but for me Testogel works perfectly. Although I need 10g per day that brings me to high end normal range of Testo and DHT.
@-whackd Жыл бұрын
Throw some DMSO in there, youll be able to use less than 5g per day and get the same blood levels
@dcbt8511 ай бұрын
Do you apply it once or two times daily? Testo gel
@freedominsteadof198411 ай бұрын
@@dcbt85 once a day for a natural cycle of high testosterone in the morning and lower testosterone at night.
@quantumfx2677 Жыл бұрын
My personal opinion on the cream is the way it's absorbed is very effective and even better and quick to raise testosterone then using injectable testosterone and I get guys not agreeing with me saying the injectable is better. I do not agree the cream just has to be used more often and some feel it's a pain To do, each their own. I use injectable only because the price of cream is ridiculously expensive.
@Kampup Жыл бұрын
what does the 20% cream cost per month in the uk or europe? thanks
@paulb2769 Жыл бұрын
Could you give an estimate of what Test cream would cost per month in the US? Thanks .. Paul
@quantumfx2677 Жыл бұрын
@@paulb2769 TRT costs can vary based on the treatment, dose, where you live and other factors. Lab work, physician fees, and medication costs also vary. TRT isn’t always covered by insurance, but you can often use an HSA or FSA to minimize out-of-pocket expenses. Testosterone Cream can cost as much as $500 a month. Best to find a good TRT clinic with good prices by calling around.
@JohnPiperBoots4 ай бұрын
@@paulb2769 $500 / month
@TRTforLIFE4 ай бұрын
@@paulb2769 If you go through a program like Henrymeds, or MaleExcel you can expect to pay an all in one price. That would include labs, telemed, prescription. I'm not here to push the one I use, I can only tell you that I pay $130 a month for everything I mentioned and it's worth every penny. I am going to be 60 this year and I haven't been on it long but in the short time I have used it, I feel so much better.
@daviddavid1057 Жыл бұрын
Great invention 20% T cream, Love it!👌🏻 Thanks a lot Doc!👍🏻
@TRTandHormoneOptimization Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@liftingdermatologist Жыл бұрын
Groetjes!
@daviddavid1057 Жыл бұрын
@@liftingdermatologist Groeten terug! 😉👍🏻
@Kampup Жыл бұрын
what does the 20% cream cost per month in the uk or europe? thanks
@barrie888 Жыл бұрын
your presentation is great tks doc clear and concise
@TRTandHormoneOptimization Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@-whackd Жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter whether it's cream or gel, what matters is the penetration enhancer added. I make my own transdermal testosterone and it looks like neither a gel or cream. Just rotate application sites and use areas with thin skin like the inner elbow and back of knee areas.
@me-sd1sq Жыл бұрын
Do you have a source for the ingredients? Thank you
@GingerBalls-fp8kx Жыл бұрын
Which is better, lipoderm or versabase?
@G78956 Жыл бұрын
how do you make ur own cream???
@tylerspecht755311 ай бұрын
@@G78956raw powder and phlojel is the most basic way you can also add solvents and penetration enhancers like dmso
@commantrosexetlos470011 ай бұрын
4 pumps of tostran i am at 1400 dl/ng..try that with a cream..not even half of that.. injections are better tho
@biosphere8488 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@TRTandHormoneOptimization Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the visit!!
@MohamedAli-yu5ys7 ай бұрын
Is ANDROFORTE 5 the same type of scrotal creme that you are talking about?
@28tgk7 ай бұрын
Substantially yes. Androforte is testosterone in cetomacrogol, not liposomial base. I used testosterone propionate 6% that is testosterone 5% without the ester in cetomacrogol, 50 mg once a day and for two years my testosterone level was between 1400- 1500 ng/ dl, now, same dosage gives me a testosterone level of 6-7 ng/ dl, then I'm back to injections
@johncasper81933 ай бұрын
The gel works really great for me. Libido through the roof, total testosterone 1700. My urologist told me to decrease gel. I feel great at that number. Have great pumps in the gym.
@juancarloslourido90152 ай бұрын
Hello John, a question, do you use the gel every day? Do you plan to use it less? What results can be expected with the use of the gel? Thank you very much. What part of the body do you apply it on?
@NEUTRALDROP2 ай бұрын
@@juancarloslourido9015I'm on the 1% gel and hit 900 test level my strength is off the charts and it just works well for me and they say it's like the entry level testosterone but I'm staying with it and I put it on every day on my shoulders in the morning very simple
@eoghankelly6810 ай бұрын
My going on TRT very soon and iv ask my Doctor about the cream but he’s not sure about the monthly cost ??
@TRTandHormoneOptimization10 ай бұрын
Depends on where you buy it and how much you use. For me 80€ per month.
@28tgk6 ай бұрын
@TRTandHormoneOptimization 80 euros for month for how many total ml of compounded product?
@JohnPiperBoots4 ай бұрын
QUESTION PLEASE - Is Testosterone cream Topi-CLICK available in USA? I am New and will be seeing urologist in 2 weeks for TRT. Prefere this to injections. Thanks for video! I subscribed! Thanks. :)
@TRTandHormoneOptimization4 ай бұрын
Of course this is available. Watch this video. Dr Nichols is in the USA as well. Link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n52QpGNnrLlqeZY
@TRTforLIFE4 ай бұрын
There are several online clinics that offer it through their programs. It comes from compounding pharmacies throughout the U.S. Your local doctor would probably be clueless and want to put you on Androgel. I haven't heard great things about it.
@mattgreene19772 ай бұрын
Yes. Empower pharmacy.
@jimfisher26874 күн бұрын
@@TRTforLIFEwhat online clinic offers it ?
@mumenrider8622 ай бұрын
I am working with a TRT clinic now. They say they do offer cream, but it's more expensive. When I asked if it was compounded create for scrotal application they couldn't really answer. What other types of creams are out there that these TRT clinics are offering?
@JohnPiperBoots4 ай бұрын
QUESTION PLEASE ❔❔❔❓❓❓- Is Testosterone cream Topi-CLICK available in USA? I am New and will be seeing urologist in 2 weeks for TRT. Prefere this to injections. Thanks for video! I subscribed! Thanks. :) ❔
@TRTandHormoneOptimization4 ай бұрын
Yes, it is available. Watch this video with USA dr Keith Nichols: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n52QpGNnrLlqeZYsi=4pK-f7PpB8Uh0EsE
@mattgreene19772 ай бұрын
I am using the 20% compounded cream as well. Has anyone else found a stimulant type of effect from this? Whenever I use it within about two hours I get a somewhat panicked sensation.
@andreasiscaro728 Жыл бұрын
Hi DocSteven Great video! Np lab sells liposomal cream is it the same you call lipoderm?
@TRTandHormoneOptimization Жыл бұрын
Yes, it is
@andreasiscaro728 Жыл бұрын
Which base is best?
@GingerBalls-fp8kx11 ай бұрын
@andreasiscaro728 For me lipoderm was slightly effective while Pentravan wasn’t at all
@michalmatus80534 ай бұрын
Why applying it twice per day and not only in the morning ? Isn’t morning only application more natural with decreasing T level during the day ?
@TRTandHormoneOptimization4 ай бұрын
We don't have to mimic the circadian rhythm of testosterone. Link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zoa5pIBvp7epmtU
@michalmatus80534 ай бұрын
@@TRTandHormoneOptimization I am trying to understand it but my brain is just not taking it. We try to microdose as much as possible to mimic natural T production but keeping T high all the time without daily drop towards the evening does not sound much natural to me.
@TRTforLIFE2 ай бұрын
@@michalmatus8053 testosterone RISES at night. This is why lack of proper sleep is one of the many causes of low testosterone in men.
@michalmatus80532 ай бұрын
@@TRTforLIFE this does not answer why applying the cream twice a day is more beneficial than only morning application.
@TRTforLIFE2 ай бұрын
@@michalmatus8053 The half life of creams is about 10-12 hours. The idea of applying twice a day it to keep your levels fairly steady. I addressed your last sentence without addressing the first part of your comment. According to the clinics that prescribe the cream, applying twice a day is done to mimic the natural rise and fall of our natural testosterone levels.
@troypace5598Күн бұрын
How can I get these ?
@TRTandHormoneOptimization22 сағат бұрын
Link to NP labs in the description of the video
@gif24gt60 Жыл бұрын
Which is better hrt base or versabase cream?
@Sirena_Edonismo Жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on compound pharmacy gels that are mixed the same way as creams, have no alcohol and can be used on the scrotum? There is a shortage of the cream bases so my pharmacy has substituted compounded gel.
@TheSaintberzerker Жыл бұрын
I use the scrotal Atrevis hydrogel and my TT went from 300's ng/dl up to over 1400 ng/dl in 8 weeks. Free is at the top of normal range. Seems to work just fine for me. 200mg test per 1ml, .5ml per day.
@commantrosexetlos470011 ай бұрын
@@TheSaintberzerkerI got tired of shortages of suppliers it ain't a joke no more..
@28tgk7 ай бұрын
@@TheSaintberzerker What's the percentage of testosterone in your Atrevis hydrogel?
@JayJay-de8vq7 ай бұрын
@@28tgkI think 200mg/ml that he mentioned is 20%
@28tgk7 ай бұрын
@@JayJay-de8vq Thanks
@Getlost55Ай бұрын
The cream is the only thing that doesn't mess with my RBC//. Too bad it costs about 160 and insurance won't cover it.
@TRTandHormoneOptimizationАй бұрын
NP Labs isn't that expensive, unless you use A LOT 🧪 ➜Use this link to get a 5% discount on your first order at online pharmacy NP LABS: compounded Testosterone cream, Pregnenolone and DHEA capsules, Testosterone enanthanate, Mesterolone tablets, Tadalafil capsules, high dose Melatonin, PEPTIDES, and much more: admin.nplabs.online/register/patient?afid=2a38a4a9316c49e5a833517c45d31070
@Robert-cs1rk Жыл бұрын
I would if I could ! Not available in Australia.
@TRTandHormoneOptimization Жыл бұрын
Really? I thought it was. Contact Dave Lee about it.
@GingerBalls-fp8kx Жыл бұрын
You just need a script, there’s plenty of compounding pharmacies
@Robert-cs1rk Жыл бұрын
@@GingerBalls-fp8kx My endo wants me to use andreforte 5 which is not strong enough in y opinion.
@scottgood78884 ай бұрын
How long does this Topi-Click container last? How many applications are in it? How much does this typically cost?
@TRTandHormoneOptimization4 ай бұрын
35ml=g 0.25g per click 140 clicks.
@leninfernandez9279Ай бұрын
@@TRTandHormoneOptimization so seems like 2 to 4 times more expensive than injections.
@scotta4527 Жыл бұрын
my test cream also has Chrysin in it. Is that really needed?
@TRTandHormoneOptimization Жыл бұрын
No
@robinhood463 Жыл бұрын
Why not, if you have to high Estrogene, Chrysin helps a little bit.
@Paul-i2mАй бұрын
Can't take dose at night I take ssr
@xaviermaldonado8378 Жыл бұрын
Do you have any advice on how many hours to wait from application of TRT cream (tran-scrotal) to time of blood draw?
@TRTandHormoneOptimization Жыл бұрын
Yes, 5 hours. This was answered in older videos "FAQ testosterone cream part 1 and 2" on this channel. Also: Check out my 📘 e-book: "The Ultimate Guide to TRT Cream" Why Compounded Testosterone Cream is the BEST option for TRT, by Dr. Steven Devos MD PhD: www.trtandhormoneoptimization.store/listing/e-book-the-ultimate-guide-to
@Kampup Жыл бұрын
@@TRTandHormoneOptimization what does the 20% cream cost per month roughly in the europe? thanks
@erick610211 ай бұрын
@@Kampupdid you ever get a cost estimate? Nobody seems to know
@jeffbros9203 Жыл бұрын
how long does the compounded cream last before it is considered expired? does it have to be refrigerated or just stored at room temperature?
@kylecameron2108 Жыл бұрын
Room temp
@TRTforLIFE4 ай бұрын
you shouldn't have to worry about expiration if you are using it properly. It comes in 30ml packaging and most doses are .5 ml twice a day. You should be going through it one month. The compounding pharmacy I use sends me 2 (60 ml) to last 8 weeks.
@lurch10053 ай бұрын
Where in UK can u buy this
@brydayz556810 ай бұрын
Can you get "Gyno" using the Testosterone Cream? compared to injections
@TRTforLIFE3 ай бұрын
yes, you can and will have the same issues or results with any testosterone you use.
@duitsland275611 ай бұрын
3 kliks twice a day that's 300mg testosteron with a 8 times higher absorption rate. That will send your testosteron levels to the moon. My urologist is complaining wenn I use more than 50mg androgel...😔. What is micronized testosteron?
@aresyaial8 ай бұрын
I use 3 gels per day of 50mg ,I weigh 96kg. It's working well
@krane154 ай бұрын
As long as your other values stay in the green she has nothing to complain about. remind he that she doesn't go home with you, nor does she live your life. You don't simply want a treatment to keep you alive, you to be able to enjoy living. Remind her of that. If she continues to complain, inform her that if she's uncomfortable with your requests, you can find another doctor. She works for you. She is a paid advisor, but its YOUR body, and the ultimate judge of what's good for it always remains your decision.
@mr.selfdestruct Жыл бұрын
This makes no sense. Please help me with this. You are saying at 20% solution you are using 0.5 to 0.75ml cream application 2x a day. I am in Japan. I use a 6% solution cream (the strongest they make here) (compound cream on the testicles). I use 0.4 ml 2x a day and my numbers are finally perfect. E2 sitting around 40 and T sitting around 800-1000. (And I am feeling perfect, right on the money) Japan is 50 years behind so I have have had to figure out my own protocol. Doing my own research. My doc didn't even know the T% in the cream he gave me. He had to call the pharmacy to find out. 6% he said. He must be wrong. But he said its 3g of T mixed in 50g of cream. 6%. I was using 2g of cream a day, and my E2 hit 85 and my T his 2500. I felt like utter crap. I kept dialing it back dialing it back dialing back. I started doing .4ml twice a day and I hit that amazing sweet spot that I felt when I first started. Anxiety gone. Self confidence up. Libido high. Just feeling right. Last blood work had me at E2-40 and T at 900. Near perfect. And I feel near perfect. So either Japan is using some form of T that is stronger at 6% or this stuff I am using is NOT 6%.
@daviddavid1057 Жыл бұрын
And what is your free T?
@mr.selfdestruct Жыл бұрын
@@daviddavid1057 around 25 pg/ml, a little low but not terrible. I might have low SHBG but its cost well over 300$ for a single SHBG test in Japan and can't justify that.
@daviddavid1057 Жыл бұрын
@@mr.selfdestruct What..? Free T of 25 pg/ml? so in ng/dl is then 2.5??!! If I'm not wrong then your free T is really very low! Do you measure your T value in the trough or in the peak?
@mr.selfdestruct Жыл бұрын
@@daviddavid1057 peak. I will add, that EVERY lab mearusrs things differently and their normal range is 4.7-21.6 so 25 is actaully way above this lab's range... I have had this scare before... like how can my free T be so freaking low. The only thing I can figure, given the lab published ranges is they just measure is differnt than most labs do.
@TheSaintberzerker Жыл бұрын
@@mr.selfdestruct Yes, you're right about different labs having different ranges and numbers. The range you're talking about 4.7-21.6 sounds like the lab I use which is Labcorp. They use "direct" measuring of Free T, which nobody can really explain. As long as you are in that range, or at the top I suspect it's good. As long as you're in the upper end of the range, it's good news. I would still like to get a normal Free T range test from a different lab just to compare.
@justicevanpool902511 ай бұрын
Yeah, looks great, but I kinda doubt the link you posted will accept scripts in Japanese😅
@phoenixgamer1565 Жыл бұрын
Hair loss can be a major drawback with transdermal. Always go with Testosterone Cypionate.
@TRTandHormoneOptimization Жыл бұрын
Why do you think that the route of administration would make a difference? DHT? This might be a good theory. But do you know of studies that tried to prove that in actual practice?
@phoenixgamer1565 Жыл бұрын
@TRTandHormoneOptimization It is proven that DHT conversion is significantly higher when administration is done transdermal. Yes, studies show this. Personally I also get hair loss that stops when I switch to injectable Testosterone.
@felixgonzalez6466 Жыл бұрын
That’s intresting because i get hair growth with it. Everything is such paradox . One mans food is another mans poison
@TRTforLIFE4 ай бұрын
@@phoenixgamer1565 I'll take the hair loss over man boobs any day :)
@krane154 ай бұрын
Incorrect. Testosterone is testosterone. Hair loss is cause by your genetics not testosterone. That said, androgens can accelerate your hair loss, but they don't cause it.
@ttwarrior15 ай бұрын
kind find cream anywhere
@TRTandHormoneOptimization5 ай бұрын
🧪 ➜Use this link to get a 5% discount on your first order at online pharmacy NP LABS: compounded Testosterone cream, Pregnenolone and DHEA capsules, Testosterone enanthanate, Mesterolone tablets, Tadalafil capsules, high dose Melatonin, PEPTIDES, and much more: admin.nplabs.online/register/patient?afid=2a38a4a9316c49e5a833517c45d31070
@ttwarrior15 ай бұрын
@@TRTandHormoneOptimization if I need to pay just to be evaluated or for a script. I'll pass. But I'll look
@ttwarrior15 ай бұрын
@@TRTandHormoneOptimization I created a login there. Now what. See nothing but a portal
@aresyaial8 ай бұрын
Who says gels don't work?
@TRTandHormoneOptimization8 ай бұрын
99.9% of people who tried it, including myself.
@aresyaial8 ай бұрын
I don't know man, it's going very well for me. There are some tricks: shower first with hot water and soap to remove oil from the skin, shower with cold water to activate circulation and get the necessary dose.
@defbear7 ай бұрын
@@aresyaialWhat levels do you get with gel?
@imstevemcqueen Жыл бұрын
I don't want my hair to fall out
@TRTandHormoneOptimization Жыл бұрын
No one wants that. But I lost my hair 15 years *before* TRT. If it runs in the family, you can not change that, don't you agree?
@erick610211 ай бұрын
@@TRTandHormoneOptimizationpeople don’t realize how beneficial DHT is. Hair loss is a minor side effect for what you’re gaining I think.
@ayaanaali8852 Жыл бұрын
I love TRT
@TRTandHormoneOptimization Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Ayaan Aali , for helping to boost the algorithm!
@ayaanaali8852 Жыл бұрын
@@TRTandHormoneOptimization Every man should consider it especially in today's world
@wheeliewheelie4 ай бұрын
i take 5% gel and get better results than cream...
@TRTandHormoneOptimization4 ай бұрын
What cream have you tried?
@wheeliewheelie4 ай бұрын
@@TRTandHormoneOptimization 200mg/ml compounded cream i think with atrevis base...you guys knock the gel because you havent tried a higher concentration like i take at 5%...you should try it and see for yourself...
@UranusfromBrussels Жыл бұрын
👌
@TRTandHormoneOptimization Жыл бұрын
Dank je
@JasonNapalm72 Жыл бұрын
The gel works for me, so this is bad information.
@TRTandHormoneOptimization Жыл бұрын
No, anecdotal info is weak in comparison with statistics.
@JasonNapalm7210 ай бұрын
@@TRTandHormoneOptimizationyou said gel does not work, you are making an absolute statement which is false info.
@aresyaial8 ай бұрын
The gel works for me as well. Changed my life
@aresyaial7 ай бұрын
I don't measure the levels after putting it on, it doesn't make sense. The next day I measure them without putting it on first and get a normal level. But don't look at the levels, you have to look at how you feel.
@defbear7 ай бұрын
@@aresyaialRight, yea I know about not chasing the numbers. And when to test vs not to test. Although, you have to contact the specific manufacturer of whatever Gel you are using as some have different instructions. Androgel themselves say to NOT apply the morning of testing. For example. I use Actavis 1% gel. 4 pumps total. 2 hours after applying I am low 700's Total (Range 229 - 902), 13 to 15 Free (Range 4.1 - 15.2), 43 SHBG (Range 11.5 - 54.5). Tested at the same time of morning when NOT applying the gel I am 350 to 400 Total, 6 to 7 Free and 38 to 40 SHBG. I've also tested 5 hours after applying and 10 hours after applying. So that I know where I am at all hours of the day.