Why the Majority DISLIKE the Lawbringer REWORK |

[@bhosaleranveer99]

At this point they might as well give him complete rework and give him a completely new moveset which they are fully capable of doing just like how they reworked jorm

[@victornguyen1175]

Didn't Jorm also take them like 8 months or something

[@anubismaat2813]

@@victornguyen1175 Yep.

[@flashbacka1122]

very well said. funny how arguably the two worst reworks in the game, conq and LB both did not receive roll catchers as well. hopefully this vid reaches ubi.... this is an unacceptable rework/nerf and stripping of the hero. very sad.

[@AdmiralAsby]

5mo it didn't

[@angel3pointoo173]

As a long time lawbringer "enjoyer" his rework hurts my soul

[@deathtoallcreationjustbeca3353]

His entire kit was to punish people for throwing a heavy willy nilly, now he gets punished for existing and trying to play the game. He's comparable to warden, if not worse.

[@peterpallas1804]

I wish like their other games, that Ubisoft would show character pick rates. I feel like LB wasn't common enough and oppressive enough to receive this rework.

[@V_Kronos]

Good presentation. You spoke freely and used many pictures. The teacher should give you an A+ and lawbringer a rollcatcher. Week 29 of 69 asking for a one hour glad montage

[@Faraam1]

Thanks sensei

[@manz7860]

5 months of testing grounds. 2 iterations of the rework. And the devs with with minimal changes. They really had a hateboner for lawbro.

[@Unstable_Mayhem]

Literally last night i went Lawbringer knowing it was a mistake. I was right. I went against 2 berserkers and an afeera. It was obvious that i couldnt open them up at all now and all Afeera has to do was throw a light as an option select. 😅 it hurts when they ruin something you love. Also nerf kyoshin

[@JasonsWeirdPizz]

Nerf kyoshin? 😂

[@elzar5987]

Seriously? Kyoshin? Guy hits like a wet noodle if you know what you're doing

[@Mango-cp1im]

@@elzar5987 definitely not. his all block is so safe from anything except bashes because you can light out of it

[@develtusletrin5410]

Just being reminded of Lawbringers category having “Counter Attacker” yet Shove on Block hasn’t existed since Hito came out hurts my soul still

[@JasonsWeirdPizz]

Shove on block was horrible for the game though. Someone’s offense shouldn’t end because you could block a heavy. Same with old conq superior block, there’s a reason it was removed

[@silverbashspam9701]

@@JasonsWeirdPizz i think we all know shove on block was bad but LB isn't a counter attacker after his rework but you still have to play him like that without being able to rely on parries or reads anymore since he still has no offense ironically his offense is even worse than pre-reworked LB

[@JasonsWeirdPizz]

@@silverbashspam9701 i dont disagree with any of that, i was just saying that extremely defensive tools (free damage or free mixup off a block) shouldnt be in the game

[@Kitsu4491]

the whole school presentation aesthetic got me but "VLC media player Skyrim - The Bannered Mare.mp3" had me rolling great video :)

[@craberadicator9446]

Its funny how lawbringer has a dodge forward heavy tech, yet they nerfed it for no reason, if they buffed it, it could be a unique rollcatcher. They did the opposite lmao, also zone mid chain would be glorious.

[@silverbashspam9701]

yea they shadow nerfed his forward dodge recovery making his neutral offense even worse than it was before ironically lmao because they wanted to give LB better offense but did the exact opposite

[@tboleon]

stopped playing the game after the LB rework, i only played him and centurion nearly every match and the longarm uselessness with the stamina changes was the start of the end even if they didnt rework him after. devs have tendancy to strip the entire identity of heros only to replace them with hyper armor or unblockables which is beyond dumb.

[@Sandlchi]

4x4 = 12 faraam out here single handedly destroying asian stereotypes

[@asamisaito]

He’s born in Germany so it checks out

[@manz7860]

Is he a race car driver as well?

[@Wanderer-nw2so]

And I still have to say how the f**k am I getting Perry punished on my own impale punish is a joke seriously they made it so slow that anyone can block it and they even made it pariable they have effectively neutered, the move into uselessness the same way as long arm because Reddit complained about having to think about what's behind them every time they play against the lawbringer and it's sickens me to no end that they don't play test their own game because this rework convince me that they don't actually play the game itself

[@hakunai7227]

I love it when I wake up in the morning, take a shower, get ready to work, once working have to deal with daily common bs, and when I’m finally off.. I’m finally home after a long day of tiring hardship I wanna prep myself for a nice relaxing session of playing REWORKED LAWBRINGER. But no after losing a match for the 14th time in a single night to nothing but an army hitokiri, kensei, Highlander and whatever else bs this game throws at lawbringers who just want to have a good time i continue to play. I am always angry whenever I play lawbringer.. I’m angry when I select him, I’m angry when we win or lose, I’m angry when I’m customizing lawbringer. I’m just angry whenever I launch for honor be I know I’m gonna play lawbringer. Dear Ubisoft.. I understand you tried but if effort is going to be this bad don’t even change your characters. lawbringer is NOTHING like what he was in test server. Every time I come across a character that has more options than me I genuinely want to commit self harm because I know they have to try less than me to win. Please do it right the first time or don’t do anything at all.

[@manz7860]

I feel you as a warden main. Like playing the game on hard mode. Got lawboi to 50 before they ruined him

[@justabaron2686]

He literally needed only HA on one move, opener and rollcatch, wtf, Ubi.

[@pingouuiin]

That was a very good, interesting and relaxing video, please do more of these on various subjects !

[@rawwar6642]

To be honest, I think most heroes are in need of feat reworks. Lawbringer, for what I know, is the only character that gets high rise (revive mate to 75% of hp) and protected revive (giving armor to hp). They should remove the conquer feat from him and replace it with quick revive. Establishing him as a good pick to revive people since reviving in the game is considered "not optimal."

[@Dale_Nightking]

Rising dawn, not high rise, but I do agree. I use jug to replace the protected part of protected revive but all they have to do is guardbreak or bash me out of it. Quick revive would be fantastic for him and really change team fights if he can get it off

[@manz7860]

I wish lawbringer had uninterrupted at t4. Kinda weird he gets 2 aoe attacks at t4. Catapult and his unique bombs. Remove catapult for uninterrupted

[@Wanderer-nw2so]

They should have given him a soft feint bash from any starter or chain heavy i think that would be a great mixup and excellent opener

[@stpatrick8492]

Faraam, a bit of a mundane question here: what are your keybinds? I recently switched over from controller to mouse and keyboard and have been struggling with things that were second nature to me on controller. Switching between targets, guardbreaks, feinting, all of it feels awkward.

[@deathfromthedepths]

M&K isn't for everyone tbh, but I won't discourage you from it. That being said in a game like fh, depending on how long you've ran with it, may be best to stay with what you are comfortable with if possible. Controllers are compatible with pc if that is a problem

[@pandatk2793]

my man made an entire powerpoint presentation

[@flashbacka1122]

such a foul rework. thanks for voicing our opinions

[@PhoenixAscension554]

Faraam, I just want to say that I love your content and have been watching for a long time, even back during the Zanny videos "iS tHaT fArAaM?!?!!" and just want to thank you for all the wonderful evenings you gave us, and all of your frequent uploads. I seriously hope for the best for your channel and genuinely want to say thank you. 👍

[@Faraam1]

Thank you man! =)

[@sirfancy3876]

Yeah after playing Lawbringer since he had Shove-on-Block, this just really sucks. 70 reps for them to DUNK on my man

[@Dr3Dr4y]

My thing is… with this Lawbringer rework he is no longer a unique character he is nothing he sucks

[@manz7860]

Give lawbringer a charged heavy like hito and shugo and he would instantly be viable.

[@JasonsWeirdPizz]

One more hero with variable timed heavies would hurt my soul

[@TAKKODOT]

Sehr nice. Mal was anderes und war interessant. Ich hab ne kleine Frage: Wen mainst du und warum? Ich hab die letzten 4 Jahre LB gemaint... Joa jetzt halt wegen dem Rework halt nicht mehr. Danke gür die Hilfe. Du bist der For Honor GOAT. LG Phil

[@manz7860]

They took away the only thing he was good at. Youre absolutely corrext when you say he brings nothing to the table. Hes almost as bad as PK now. Certainly more boring.

[@JasonsWeirdPizz]

Pk isn’t that bad in picking people off, just not the pick in team fights

[@manz7860]

@@JasonsWeirdPizz if you're gonna invalidate youre own comment. Why even comment lmao. Smoothbrain

[@JasonsWeirdPizz]

@@manz7860 youre genuinely smooth brain if you think an A tier duelist is a bad hero. i was just saying bad in teamfights, good in duels. learn to read smooth brain

[@elmacah8628]

Impale rollcatcher

[@Letsthinkaboutlife77]

Hope you enjoyed the vacation brother

[@Faraam1]

I did, thank you =)

[@flackfam1886]

A whole power point, I hate these but sense it’s Faraam and for honor I’ll enjoy it

[@thejokerstruth228]

My master has returned! Yes!!! Welcome back😀. Hope you enjoyed your vacation it was well overdue👍🏽. P.s Don’t forget to go to the gym we gamers deteriorate fast sitting in a chair. Physical health is important for better reactions and attention span during matches when playing For Honor & overall health & longevity. Be well sensei Faraam🤜🏽🔥

[@kcaptainawesome4800]

I also think it be nice if the examples and scenarios you bring up you can show in the video so people may better understand where you're coming from

[@thephoenixempyre2300]

So glad you made this video, most people don't understand why this rework was terrible and just complain that his stam damage and stun were "unhealthy," just regurgitating what was said in the release of this terrible change. You've said everything I wanted to just in a much more comprehensible way and I agree 100%

[@arkhamasylum8972]

Stun and stam drain is unhealthy. It's either really oppressive to low level players, or completely useless against high level players.

[@arkhamasylum8972]

Reverting the changes is a bad idea. Maybe giving him some of the old stuff back but no way in hell should they give him stun and stam drain back. I'd happily take hyper armor over that dogshit gimmick. Impale needs a few changes. Either buff the inpale to five dmg, make it guaranteed on heavy parry and make it 8 dmg and only guarantee a light, or make guaranteed on heavy and massively nerf the distance. Also make the opener heavies 22 dmg and speef up the top to match the sides, same dmg as orochi. Put in a dodge forward heavy and he's perfect.

[@OneBloodyBloodGod]

Fuck the stamina damage, screw the bash and to hell with his stun. He should do reasonable amounts of damage. 20 damage on heavies from one of the taller, slower characters in the game with no real light mix-ups is ridiculous. Orochi, Peacekeeper, Gladiator, Kyoshin, all do more damage then Lawbringer does with just as much if not less effort.

[@josephkerr5018]

Just came back to the game after a loooong break last hero to come out when I stopped was gryphon or maybe pirate I think. Love to see they gutted my main and made him unplayable I will never forgive removing impale on heavy and nerfing the damage of it as well. Guess I'm done for good farewell forever for honor lol

[@menalgharbwalsharq648]

Give impale back. That's all. What they did to this move feels like a stone in my shoe that I can't take off. For ppl jus tpicking up the hero, it may look like just a useless move, but for everybody else, I just can't play this hero again. The rest of the rework is trash but I can live with it

[@thesmartbeb9622]

I miss the fun in playing lawbringer

[@rotboy101]

The thing I hate most about the new lawbringer is just the massive drop in damage.. even his heavy FINISHER only does 28, and heavy openers only doing 20 is a crime. I also don't like the focus of his chains being on the "stun" tap. All we wanted was the free 3-3 chains, a rollcatcher, and maybe hyperarmor on heavy finishers, while removing impale parry.

[@FrappyLee]

28 is reasonable for a heavy finisher. 20 on the opener heavy is low I agree however I imagine you make up for that by doing the guaranteed light afterwards. I'm not huge on the rework but I don't think his damage is the problem.

[@JasonsWeirdPizz]

@@FrappyLeeagreed, his damage is fine how it is. It’s not low on every heavy like pirate was, plus there’s almost no reason to NOT throw the guaranteed light, other than team fights when you want the armor

[@victornguyen1175]

You do NOT need more than 28 on heavy finishers.

[@JasonsWeirdPizz]

@@victornguyen1175 laughs in medjay

[@backburner4779]

@@victornguyen1175medjay?

[@Nasus-Ohkami]

this is the most well made power point showcase of why LB 's rework was super bad

[@Professor_POVFH]

I will always say stamina damage needs to go it it’s very much not a fun play style. I don’t know why they’re keeping it on some and removing it on others. If they’re going to change damage and other things they need to do it for everyone.

[@kcaptainawesome4800]

Big words coming from someone who's in long arm distance. Longarm gang forever

[@manz7860]

20 damage top heavies. Enough said.

[@JasonsWeirdPizz]

24 is confirmed from the heavies, the only reason you wouldn’t use the light after is if you’re in a team fight and need hyperarmor. His damage is fine how it is

[@victornguyen1175]

Ah more people begging for power creep instead of functional mixups and a full toolkit

[@manz7860]

@@JasonsWeirdPizz top heavies need a buff. There's absolutely no reason to wallsplat with the current damage

[@manz7860]

@@victornguyen1175 lawbringer has arguably the worst offense in the game now. Absolutely should be made up by above average damage

[@JasonsWeirdPizz]

@@manz7860 the stun mechanic was fine and that i can agree couldve stayed, but the damage is absolutely fine. his offense is almost exactly the same as it was before, hes not an offensive hero. as much as it sucks to hear, he was designed to be defensive. the reason they gave him a confirmed light was to get to his finisher unblockables, so he has that option now. although, if youre complaining about his damage being low then you might not know that. along with his 2 heavies and a light punish still being confirmed. he does not need a damage buff

[@wolfwalker4585]

Personally, I think LB should keep his impale on heavy parry Heroes like centie already get about 20 damage from a heavy parry with haymaker (kick riposte into punch and light) However, it would be better if he only got a side heavy from it, for obvious reasons

[@cherrycola4476]

20 damage

[@JVoorhees1]

4/10 will not play again

[@xxderpyderpxx3956]

as an lb main i honestly feel his rework is a good thing for several reasons. 1) he finally flows, meaning he has a nice hitbox with hyper armor and an infinite, as opposed to his old one being really easy to hit out of chains and not really feeling rewarding in ganks. now i do wish he was as good as his first TG althought that was extremely op, a balance between the first and the second TG would put him in such a nice spot. i personally think he needs hyper armor on his finisher heavies, impale on heavy parry and maybe just a few extra dmg on opener heavies. yeah his stam drain was really nice, id much rather not have to crutch the opponent being aggressive to capitalize off of that, because if you fought someone with decent enough reaction timings, it doesnt matter how much stam dmg you do if you cant hit them. ive been a day 1 lb main, rep 70 and peaked at top 0.4% in the world as him so ive seen lb through all of his flaws and honestly i feel like they are going to a good step now because since he is just a tad bit weaker it means there is room for buffs, especially with how the community has been reacting to it.

[@arkhamasylum8972]

Agreed

[@deflectnya]

Lb has very strong ganks you can bash or cgb for a long arm infinite of heavy bash long arm repeat it’s a 100-0

[@manz7860]

If you like feeding the opponent revenge. Sure.

[@deflectnya]

@@manz7860 it’s a 100-0 everything is confirmed

[@Sosodefkid]

Weird that old LB is better than new LB and is even more fun to play shit is sad