I was finally able to watch this interview and quite frankly it moved me to tears. She gets it. She understands what we, the working class are up against. I grew up upper middle class and due to some bad choices in life and the present day economic crisis, I'm now working class. It's frightening to see what's happening to our society. I can only hope and pray and continue to work. hard to stay afloat . Thank you Andrew for bringing her on. I will be reading her books and hopefully get to see and hear more of her.
@hankhooper16372 ай бұрын
Two of the best!
@WhizzingFish122 ай бұрын
The old Thomas Sowell quote comes to mind: You should never allow yourself to be ruled by any group who pays no price for their bad decisions.
@johnmulcahy55062 ай бұрын
This is a brilliant insight on the media and their evolving role as Pravda for the new “Elite.” Thanks, Andrew, for bringing Batya to our attention.
@peetky86452 ай бұрын
i have never heard batya say a single silly thing in the thirty or so times i have heard her commentary.
@daikini742 ай бұрын
She gives them a lot more credit than I think they deserve. Great interview, I want to read her books now. Hot ticket.
@DMilbury2 ай бұрын
That’s exactly what I said to myself. There is far more intent in how the elite operate than she either understands or is admitting.
@paulcook36132 ай бұрын
I listened to the end, and was even more impressed. This young lady needs a wider reach, greater opportunity for influence.
@ppcasey5432 ай бұрын
"They want an economy that protects their labor" is a great statement on understanding... something. I'm going to have to read these books now! Thank you Mr. Klavan.
@CounterCultureWISE2 ай бұрын
She is delightful. I learned a lot from this interview.
@JohnnyAloha692 ай бұрын
Fascinating discussion, puts the political divide into a new light!
@phillipharris82772 ай бұрын
So, if the New Yak Times is supporting Kam, it's because she can deliver eight profitable years of anger.
@Cjean8212 ай бұрын
She’s so smart and eloquent. I need to buy her book
@samcrihfield47442 ай бұрын
This was absolutely wonderful!!!!
@joseph_donovan2 ай бұрын
Batya Ungar-Sargon should be the Queen of Persia given that she is a delightful person who speaks so much truth and has an ineluctable respect for and understanding of the people.
@shaunellis30602 ай бұрын
Absolutely love her & she always does hreat insightful interviews.
@dalesquires93712 ай бұрын
Love you Andrew 😍 and Batya
@kjparlay2 ай бұрын
A perfect example of how journalists don't work on behalf of the working class is a clip I saw on Tucker where he showed an exchange between Don Lemon and a random middle aged man. It went like this: Don: Who are you voting for? Man: Trump Don: Why? Man: Things were better for me under Trump. Don: That's not true.
@ZJCIOLEK2 ай бұрын
Once upon a time the medias job was 'to afflict the comfortable & comfort the afflicted.'
@williamtowery35862 ай бұрын
Love her! Great interview
@watchingthewheelsgoround2602 ай бұрын
My granddaddy got to go to Europe during WWII, his second chance was getting to come home with a Purple Heart and not in a pine box. And my grandmother grew up in a house with a dirt floor, one bulb hanging in the living room and an outhouse, in sw Florida. We have bugs bigger than jumanji. Instead of getting a folded flag. Please tell me how he brought his family from poverty to the middle class without working his arse off?! It didn’t happen without a strong faith in Christ Jesus, a lot of sacrifice and very hard work. Yet they made it on granddaddy’s pay while my grandmother stayed home and raise four daughters. They fought for their second chance, I suggest y’all do the same because nothing is free, EVER!
@bobtaylor1702 ай бұрын
Did you listen to what she said? Because your comment makes it seem as though you didn't hear a single word.
@watchingthewheelsgoround2602 ай бұрын
@@bobtaylor170my comment was not a slight towards her. It was about something in the context of deserving 2,3,4 or more chances in life because of inequality.
@bobtaylor1702 ай бұрын
@@watchingthewheelsgoround260 Ok.
@tomasina102 ай бұрын
This is what people don’t see . I sit where I sit tonight on the shoulders of hardworking ancestors . Too many think walking over the border entitles them to what has taken some generations to achieve .
@peetky86452 ай бұрын
women interring the work force in a big way in the 60's was the first wave of "immigrants" that lowered wages. now actual immigrants are doing the same at a time when fewer and fewer jobs remain. the downward pressure on wages is a recipe for social conflagration.
@NMemone2 ай бұрын
Bad News was terrific! I didn't realize Batya has a new book out. Ordering this one now. Thanks, Andrew!
@edcotterjr19262 ай бұрын
Batya has it right. Left and Right are meaningless today. It's all about the upper class (based solely on income and wealth, not real class) protecting itself.
very interesting!! She's an excellent communicator.
@douglaselkins12102 ай бұрын
Good discussion. Respect for their labor
@russellpottenger85842 ай бұрын
Sorry I disagree with the guest. Government fixing prices, especially food prices which typically have a 1% margin isn’t the way to solve problems and ultimately will resort to hoarding and food shortages. I always lean to the side of Milton freeman, allowing the free market to do what it does best, and let the individual determine what’s best, and their own interests, rather than the government intervening into our lives
@FarberBob6782 ай бұрын
Same for me
@jakehutchison57612 ай бұрын
Yeah shes a bit of a Marxist imo
@bobtaylor1702 ай бұрын
She's not advocating Harris economics! Clearly, she supports Trumponomics. Did you listen to a single word she said?!
@mattharris12172 ай бұрын
Love this time slot !!!!🎉
@sliprymexican2 ай бұрын
Good interview as always
@r_b59512 ай бұрын
She is correct that journalism used to be a working class occupation. Then it became a profession requiring a college degree and things began to change. A big milestone was Watergate, which propelled "Investigative Journalism" into our consciousness. As a kid I remember the mid-70's with multiple "investigative journalist" TV dramas on every network. The journalist was the hero, so by definition, whoever they were investigating was the villain. I remember feature length movies about them. One surprisingly cautionary tale was "Absence of Malice", and it has a message relevant today. By the late 1980, there were journalist shows on PBS, so few watched. When cable TV exploded, all those PBS shows went to cable TV, and journalist became celebrities. By around 1990, the goal of every journalist was to get to NY or DC in order to have a shot at a sweet gig on cable that would triple your salary for one evenings work a week. Occupation to profession to celebrity to elitist.
@lenore81732 ай бұрын
Remarkable interview!
@mariafernandamuanis50362 ай бұрын
Good intervew! Another piece of the puzzle is the size of the state. The bigger the state the bigger the “class of state agents” and more tax money goes for subsidizing that huge state. I have the impression that the democratic party wants to turn the US in Brazil…
@fritzidler98712 ай бұрын
If you mean the movie "Brazil," I agree. A more realistic depiction of what is happening than "1984."
@digitalnomad9985Ай бұрын
@@fritzidler9871 I didn't see the movie, but you seem to imply that the movie is a more realistic depiction of what is happening in Brazil than what his happening in Brazil. She references events and you divert from events to fiction.
@NoCoverCharge2 ай бұрын
Not a big daily wire fan except for Klavan I like this guy
@deadpanbarry54422 ай бұрын
True... Same here. They seem to have lost alot of support.
@dananders9676Ай бұрын
Watched this twice. Will be buying her second book first and then Bad News.
@Sahmgirl2 ай бұрын
Wow! This is so eye-opening!
@tomasina102 ай бұрын
Great guest that many of Us would agree with . The border HAS to be number one ..this current situation is unsustainable and will not end well .
@iangorner2 ай бұрын
Thanks to Ms.Ungar -Sargon for writing Second Class. Highly recommended.
@milo84252 ай бұрын
I adore her. She's sooooo utopian and half-intuitive but her worldview is common and I'd love to see her in a proper economic discussion w/ Ben or someone.
@Albemarle72 ай бұрын
Read her books. She seems to suggesting a set of policies that 70% of the population could get behind. It is a path back to national unity and leaving behing the culture war.
@josephshepard29622 ай бұрын
God bless Batya.
@manpassnthru2 ай бұрын
Wow! You'd almost think we plain folks were being played! Duh.
@kodyvandyke17142 ай бұрын
Can you PLEEEEASE make a separate sharable clip from 21:00 on? Or several clips? About the transfer of wealth from the middle class to the top 20%. Incredible, astute, and needs to be shouted from the mountain tops!!!
@Reply-who-me2 ай бұрын
I don’t agree with everything she said but it does give insight to how the left became what it is.
@PCBAPPR2 ай бұрын
First attractive Leftist woman I've seen in a very long time. And I am not referring only to her looks, but to her open and fair-mindedness.
@hrench2 ай бұрын
Her position that journalism is rich people now is not wholly accurate. I know a 40+ year newspaper man / college adjunct professor who makes $46k a year. Super poor.
@peetky86452 ай бұрын
46K is not a working class salary, although under bidenflation, it may soon be.
@WhizzingFish122 ай бұрын
Shes talking much more about elite national media figures, not the local guy. But even lower income journalists FEEL that they are part of the cultural elite.
@janpolo7992 ай бұрын
Thank you for describing Trumpers so well. Peace and no wars
@evasionbycartwheel123452 ай бұрын
I wouldnt say right wing working class people dont agree with most of the left and lgrbq stuff. And i think its mostly because the left has mde it that way with calling people deplorables and racists.
@kjoc702 ай бұрын
NAFTA was negotiated by the GHW Buush administration, though Clinton did advocate it when he came into office.
@donlovell-m2r2 ай бұрын
Batya does the work.
@cynthiaguest45092 ай бұрын
Great episode! Apropos of nothing, Kimchi Duhl
@kham60062 ай бұрын
I really like batya
@marksutton55402 ай бұрын
News services were never without bias, but could it have ever been this bad? Totally unrelated!
2 ай бұрын
Work provides purpose and government handouts should be a shame upon those receiving it.
@joedanker32672 ай бұрын
I think she gets a lot right. But she swings and misses when she says the elites are polarized so they want us polarized. I don't think that's their motivation and I don't think they have been polarized until as of very recent.
@kjoc702 ай бұрын
She misses the influence of wire services on journalistic objectivity.
@stnger92 ай бұрын
I didn't get the Prince of Persia reference but it's been awhile since I've played.
@vickihayes39142 ай бұрын
And Trump opened up the gas drilling! That kept cost of goods and energy costa.
@frankcolasanto25192 ай бұрын
As he plugs his book😊
@rhondaharris3982 ай бұрын
His show
@christopherdale17452 ай бұрын
I don't understand why wealth inequality should matterr to me. If the ultra-wealthy have any impact on me at all, it's a positive impact.
@peetky86452 ай бұрын
she is arguing that the upper middle class get their yards mowed and home additions and pools build with largely cheap immigrant labor that has undermined the wages of working class americans. there ate so few "ultra wealthy" people in the society that their actions matter less to the large working class. it is the upper 19% that drive policies, not the top 1%.
@VPirate842 ай бұрын
Hello
@jonsmith20612 ай бұрын
Journalism died with Dan Rather.
@tyroneosume84902 ай бұрын
I've discovered a soundtrack to all this loony leftie woke nonsense - an album called The Voice Of Reason by a band called UNIT, based in (I think) Scotland. Almost every track is inspired by Prageru, The Daily Wire or TSUSA. Their playlist appeared in my 'recommended' feed so it shows (probably by accident) even You Tube has its uses. I think you can find them easily enough by typing UNIT Salute The Flag Andy Martin. That's how I returned to the channel anyway. I've found a few more of their tracks which feature the voices of Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, Brandon Tatum and others...but please don't ask. I know nothing about the group except their stuff has some excellent anti-woke lyrics and unusually original music.
@christiansmith-of7dt2 ай бұрын
At least now you guys are aware of how depressed you make people feel with the way you are currently doing things
@seanjames96622 ай бұрын
She’s cute and smart 😍
@Bazthedarkhorse2 ай бұрын
#CommiesForTrump perfect! 😂
@kham60062 ай бұрын
3 day blinds are horrible !
@bobtaylor1702 ай бұрын
The imbecility of some of the comments is shocking. A lot of people think she's an advocate of socialist economics and she clearly is not. Andrew, you have a significant problem with dullardliness in your audience.
@peetky86452 ай бұрын
i don't think she is a free market person. she is a reasonable classical liberal rather than a progressive.
@davidwell6862 ай бұрын
The Left is always so angry.
@karenclark2662 ай бұрын
While Batya seems like a sincere person, she's definitely not an economist and knows even less about finances than most. Her book, "Second Class" is seeped in the wrong think of people who pretend to understand economics but clearly don't. She's passionately pro-union but they benefit the few in the system and cause economic harm to everyone else. She promotes more regulations - which is the cause of much of the economic hardships that businesses suffer under. She talks about a caste system which is the Marxist view. US economic classes are more dynamic and fluid than Batya understands. Corporate gouging is a bogeyman and straw argument. Anyone who sells a simple solution to an incredibly complex problem is self-serving and incoherent.
@bobtaylor1702 ай бұрын
You're self serving because you're inattentive to anything outside yourself. Your comment makes it seem as though you think the idea of a strong and large middle class is a fantasy, yet by the mid 1950s, we were achieving one. We had one secured by 1960. The New Yorker magazine, which appealed to some actual New Yorkers but had its biggest appeal to us provincials, had its strongest year of advertising revenue in 1962. There is a reason so many Baby Boom adults are as nostalgic for that time in American life as we are, nuclear missile rattling from the Soviets notwithstanding.
@peetky86452 ай бұрын
steeped? she is not in favor a a caste system, but she believes upward mobility is vanishing in america.
@jmcampbell052 ай бұрын
SHE'S STEALING SOMEONE ELSE'S THESIS: SOMEONE ELSE, YEARS AGO, PROFERRED THIS EXPLANATION (BANNON?)
@WhizzingFish122 ай бұрын
She gives him credit in this very episode.
@merrillmilner87172 ай бұрын
You lost me at LBGT.
@joedanker32672 ай бұрын
I might be in love with her.
@Angrypleb-j4e2 ай бұрын
Batya makes good points, but she can’t get the liberal elitist stink off of her. The way she talks about the working class is incredibly patronizing and based on some idealistic assumptions about what the working class wants.
@WhizzingFish122 ай бұрын
She has carved out a niche using her "celebrity" to advocate for the working class. I respect that she's at least doing that instead of what so many other "journalists" are doing. And her work is highly informed by doing HUNDREDS (if not thousands) of direct interviews with working class Americans. She strikes me not as patronizing but as sincerely trying to give voice to their aspirations and frustrations.
@Angrypleb-j4e2 ай бұрын
@@WhizzingFish12 I listened to her after the DNC and I’ll admit that I may have been too hasty in my critique.