It took a loss by the Heat, to then get back to beat the Heat. 2013 was the one that got away to repeat for 2014 because they had actually made it TO the finals, unlike those other years. Just didn't bounce their way.
@gm2407 Жыл бұрын
Duncan would have as many rings as Jordan and Kareem as well.
@drewlavay Жыл бұрын
@@gm2407He'd be 6 for 6. The biggest argument by MJ fans for him being the 🐐
@ritxual-8719 Жыл бұрын
@@drewlavaythe sirs wouldn’t have had enough motivation to win in 2014 the heat would win in 2014
@bocpearstudios7946 Жыл бұрын
They ran into Ray Allen
@rodneywashington2017 Жыл бұрын
True, but Pop took TD out of the game with 15+ seconds off the clock which was bizarre to begin with, so the Spurs couldn't secure rebounds and overall paint protection other than a rookie Kawahi, so that whole sequence freed up Ray in the key moment.
@mrmacross Жыл бұрын
In 2000, I think Pop recognized that they probably weren't prepped to beat that behemoth Lakers team and thought sitting Duncan for long-term health was the sensible decision. Can't say he was wrong. By the way, the Pop/Duncan Spurs are an interesting case study of a squad that both under- and overachieved. They probably kick themselves for blowing a 2-0 lead in 2004, blowing a late lead against Dallas in game 7 in 2006, losing to an 8th seed in 2011, blowing another 2-0 lead in 2012, not closing out the Clippers at home in 2015, and having the best statistical team in franchise history losing in 2016. On the other hand, they won five titles.
@holdmyweight3597 Жыл бұрын
But no one talks about how they were rigged to win in 2007, basically as a way to reward them for 2006. So it kinda evens out.
@mrmacross Жыл бұрын
@@holdmyweight3597 Guessing you're talking about the Amare/Boris Diaw suspensions for game 5. In my head, that series is still sitting at San Antonio 3-2 with two games in PHX left to play. Game 5 was so close and Kurt Thomas was the only big man available that game that you have to figure PHX would've had the advantage if Stat/Diaw were available. But even so, PHX still had to beat SAS twice and there's no guarantee they'd have won game 7.
@munimathbypeterfelton6251 Жыл бұрын
I hear what you're saying, but the Spurs never overachieved. They never had a cakewalk to any of their Finals appearances-championships, nor did they have to form a super team in order to win any of their titles. And they won their five titles relatively close to one another, with the middle three being won two years apart, respectively. Plus, I'll take the "unrepeatable" championship Spurs of 1999-2014 over the "repeated" Rockets of 1994-95, the Pistons of 1989-90, the Heat of 2012-13, and the Warriors of 2017-18 (the last team/franchise to date to repeat as NBA champions) any day! The Spurs' success was much more consistent even if they never repeated as champions. To make the playoffs 22 years in a row and have regular seasons showcasing 50+ wins for each of the first 20 of those years is unbeatable!
@blakeunderwood1075 Жыл бұрын
@@munimathbypeterfelton6251true. They the best team that never repeated but has multiple rings. Even betting every repeating but literally couldn’t beat Phil Jackson.
@twilitezn Жыл бұрын
@@blakeunderwood1075 I respect Duncan, and have him and Kobe as co-owners of - to me - the toughest Conference ever : the West from '99 - '14....they combined to go to 13 of 16 Finals, winning 10...Dirk went to 2, and OKC one. A lot of people put Duncan over Kobe, but even though he had greater overall team success (never missed the playoffs, better teammate, etc), Kobe was usually the dominant player in the Lakers-Spurs matchups (yes, that's including Shaq!), and owns a 4-2 W-L record against Duncan (though Duncan swept him in '99, Kobe hadn't fully matured/"arrived" yet-BUT, a win is a win)....and yes, I know that the Spurs swept the Lakers in 2013, but Kobe had snapped his achilles, and didn't play. Those Spurs - Lakers seiries were tremendous....even the blowouts!
@gwapsgarcia Жыл бұрын
1. kobe and shaq, plus tougher western teams as compared to the east 2. ray allen shot woulda loved to see spurs vs celtics big3 in the finals
@ph-ju1fo Жыл бұрын
Lebron had 16 Pts in the 4th Q for Miami to even have a chance of winning
@SuchIsLife424 Жыл бұрын
Lakers-Spurs was the basketball equivalent of El Clasico in Football. Great matchup. I relished it more whenever the Lakers beat the Spurs.
@jordanjenkins1671 Жыл бұрын
It's impressive that even in the mid 2010s Tim Duncan was getting 20+ points in playoff games, in his late 30s, playing in the post instead of on the perimeter shooting uncontested 3s.
@akeme25 Жыл бұрын
I feel like he would’ve adapted well if he did had to transition to a spot up shooter lol
@sambo416 Жыл бұрын
@@akeme25tim didnt need that. He left as a dominant role player, his efficency was just the same he just played less minutes due to age. He played 19 years bro
@Spider-Complexion Жыл бұрын
Even if the Spurs never won back to back, both either The Lakers or The Spurs were in the finals from 1999-2010 (except for one year when Dallas made it). That’s crazy impressive for both franchises.
@Sweeptheleg83 Жыл бұрын
That's like the Celtics and Lakers in the 80s where one of them was in every final from 80 to 89. Just crazy domination.
@darryelphillip5219 Жыл бұрын
Warriors or heat have made all but 1 final since 2011
@thebadassniggatomtom Жыл бұрын
@@darryelphillip5219Yupp that Suns/Bucks series
@chixxxymeister76827 ай бұрын
Actually two years dallas made it. Won one lost one
@sonadorazul3074 Жыл бұрын
How can you forget fisher jumping on Barry's neck in 08, with Joey Crawford just shaking his head?
@bobdavis3357 Жыл бұрын
And still Tim Duncan won 5 rings. A huge reason why the Spurs didn't win back to back were Kobe n Shaquille, Kobe w/o Shaquille. And, yes, tinsel head Dwayne Wade and LBJ. And Dirk in 2011.
@lukesmith9692 Жыл бұрын
Dwayne ( bad dad) wade
@Sterling_holmes Жыл бұрын
@@lukesmith9692We're talking ball here. Don't bring D Wades off court situation into the conversation.
@Herosennin Жыл бұрын
@@Sterling_holmesThank you. These gosipping ass 'men' give me a fit. Who cares what they do as long as they arent a menace to society?
@munimathbypeterfelton6251 Жыл бұрын
Dirk and the Mavs didn't beat the Spurs in the playoffs in 2011. The Grizzles beat the Spurs that year, in the first round.
@jpmnky Жыл бұрын
The 2006 WCF was one of my favorite playoff series of all timrv
@tj5180 Жыл бұрын
Losing stephen jackson in the 2003 offseason to the pacers was a loss as well. The lakers had a better frontcourt adding malone and pair him up with shaq a another interior scorer and defensive big instead of Horry who was getting cooked by Duncan. The spurs were up 2-0 but after that duncan struggled because of malone defense also they added payton who clamped parker.
@HipsterShiningArmor Жыл бұрын
Jackson didn’t go to the Pacers that off-season he went to the Hawks, then was traded to the Pacers for Al Harrington a year later.
@billybadass3056 Жыл бұрын
the only thing you have correct is the defense Karl plyed on Timmy, it was stellar... he was old schooling the kid pulling the rug out from under him when ever he tried to back him up to the basket.... payton didn't clamp ANYTHING down lol tony was lighting him up for 2 games until Phil called the double and had Kobe take up the assignment which from that point totally eliminated Tony Parkers production.... it was a great series and one of my favorites of all time
@FoxUnitNell Жыл бұрын
@@billybadass3056the mail man was a legend throughout his career, wow! Guys never have a possible career defining moment at the end of the career, such great work ethic.
@republikentalks4454 Жыл бұрын
It's crazy to see that duncan won 5 but could have won more. If it weren't for injuries he could probably have 8 or so. Especially in 2016 when Lenard got injured in the GSW series.
@jordanjenkins1671 Жыл бұрын
And he'd be 6/6 like MJ if not for Ray Allen
@holdmyweight3597 Жыл бұрын
@jordanjenkins1671 If they won in 2013 you don’t know if they return and repeat back in 2014. Pointless argument cause it’s just your hypothetical
@munimathbypeterfelton6251 Жыл бұрын
Leonard actually got injured in the Western Conference Finals against the Warriors in 2017, the year after Duncan retired. The Spurs lost to the Thunder of Westbrook/Durant in the second round of the 2016 playoffs, with the Thunder then blowing a 3-1 lead against the Warriors in the Western Conference Finals, only for the Warriors to then blow their 3-1 lead against the Cavs in that year's Finals.
@Bigedub1018 ай бұрын
@@holdmyweight3597exactly they even said that loss motivated them so who knew if gonna have same drive.
@JamesHardenoverKobe Жыл бұрын
Dirk played only half the series vs the spurs in 2003. Different story in 2006.
@connormacleod1490 Жыл бұрын
And Dirk and the Mavs lost to the Heat.
@JamesHardenoverKobe Жыл бұрын
@@connormacleod1490 Cute. The league had to bail out both the heat (2006 vs Mavs) and spurs (2007 vs Suns) during this era.
@JamesHardenoverKobe Жыл бұрын
@@connormacleod1490 Plus spurs started load management. You can thank them for the reason no one plays in the regular season anymore.
@connormacleod1490 Жыл бұрын
@@JamesHardenoverKobe mavs choke 2006 that is their fault.
@connormacleod1490 Жыл бұрын
@@JamesHardenoverKobe load management abuse started with LBJ player empowerment movement, Spurs barely used it.
@aaroncreatingrealms8175 Жыл бұрын
Luck in early to mid 2000s after 2007 they where old until they where rejuvenate by pieces like Patty Mills ; Boris Diaw ; Gary Neal ; Tiago Splitter ; Danny Green and that young monster Kawhi Leonard who was in his defensive peak but even they where cursed by luck ray allen and chris paul buzzer beater
@tj5180 Жыл бұрын
Greg subbed out duncan
@richborn6700 Жыл бұрын
This makes me wonder even more about how things would have gone if Doc Rivers lied to Timmy about family not being able to fly on the team plane and he left for Orlando in free agency.
@zapata1414 Жыл бұрын
Got a minute in before I had to watch another channel with that background noise playing the whole time
@michaelbietsch2864 Жыл бұрын
That derrik fisher shot is so bullshit. The clock didn't start when fischer got the ball. Refs have always been sucking the lakers off
@choward5430 Жыл бұрын
The Spurs should have won in 2013 but in game 6, the only person worse than LeBron James in the final two minutes was Greg Popovich. There's no way I'm allowing Miami to shoot two threes to tie the game. And guess who I would've deliberately fouled? LEBRON JAMES
Because he didn't want to give Lebron an opportunity to be the hero of that game upon LBJ shooting two free throws. @@choward5430
@lukasrysanek9384 Жыл бұрын
Background music made me quit video at 30 sec
@ItsMeStrider Жыл бұрын
Never imagined castlevania OST would go so well with a basketball video lmao
@derrrick7759 Жыл бұрын
That’s why I can’t put them on the top as the greatest dynasty- because they never repeated. However, the ball movement in that system was very effective and fun to watch.
@relicdad88 Жыл бұрын
I always loved seeing the pick n rolls and the 3s the guys mainly manu n Bowen wud take man I was on the edge of my seat watching those guys also loved the defense side 2 with the twin towers they wud usually run in the post blocking n deflecting shots. Jus awesome ball from my favorite team growing up
@munimathbypeterfelton6251 Жыл бұрын
True, the Spurs never repeated. But their titles in '03, '05, and '07 were won pretty close together. They also dethroned the defending champion Pistons in seven games in '05, which was no easy task. But that series proved that the Spurs dynasty of the 2000s-2010s was better than the Lakers dynasty of the 2000s-2010s because the 2004 Lakers couldn't beat the Pistons in that year's Finals despite them being the favorite to win the championship that postseason given their loaded lineup of Shaq, Kobe, Gary Payton, Karl Malone, Derek Fisher, and co.
@derrrick7759 Жыл бұрын
@@munimathbypeterfelton6251some good points, however, the Spurs won when other teams were on the decline, like the 90s Bulls separating, and the Lakers when Shaq turned into Fat Shaq. Also, the Spurs did some load management (like around 2013) to rest their starters. (Questionable but effective). That’s why I favor teams prior to 2000 simply because guys like Wilt and MJ didn’t load manage. Despite their load management tactics, I still enjoyed their ball movement, unselfish b-ball.
@jacobperez3955 Жыл бұрын
Great video, you're gonna blow up 👍
@TheHIDDENPLAYBOOK444 Жыл бұрын
This channel is criminally underrated it's not even funny
@Matthew-uq4hu Жыл бұрын
I think they're best chance of repeating would've been in that window between 2003 and 2008.
@munimathbypeterfelton6251 Жыл бұрын
They almost did repeat since their titles in 2003, 2005, and 2007 were each won with only won year separating them apart, respectively.
@pedroramirez0824 Жыл бұрын
dawg kobe torched the spurs in every playoffs Lmfaoo I feel so bad for timmy man
@aaronware8880 Жыл бұрын
I never forget that Horry 3 because I thought it was in! Especially with me screamin yeah nooooo
@rayzrealm Жыл бұрын
*4:57** Not only was it improbable but, it’s impossible. Observe when the shot clock started then look at the location of the ball.* *#GOSPURS*
@MHBULLSFAN Жыл бұрын
Kobe Bryant. Also Manu fouling Dirk in game 7
@Silverswooosh Жыл бұрын
React to MLS 2016 finals A heart stopping save for the ages
@BigUncZone8 Жыл бұрын
I see you 👀 forgot again Sean Elliott hit the same shot on his tip toes
@benjiramirez7712 Жыл бұрын
Castlevania music for an intro is crazy bruh we got a nerd making videos 🙏
@delconagher12 Жыл бұрын
Kobe killed them a lot. With that being said, I wish Kobe joined the Spurs post Achilles injury. I really think he would have made a difference there instead of getting the Lakers lottery picks.
@ssj4goku18825theepic Жыл бұрын
He was way too riddled with injuries the year spurs won and 2015 was just a hard time for Kobe to do anything spectacular as well as 2016. But I believe he would offer solid veteran scoring and leadership but would be a miss for the team than a beneficial
@ThomasBridges-k2k Жыл бұрын
Thanks now they were a real good team playing as a team
@JD-ny3vz Жыл бұрын
It's interesting I never really watched specifically Spurs related content. But it's interesting to see some comments with Spurs fans trying to diminish the accomplishment of repeating. The Spurs are still one of the NBA's dynasties but them not repeating is definitely a major blow in comparison to the 00s Lakers, 90s Bulls, 80s Lakers and the Warriors. They're definitely below those teams, the hardest thing to do in basketball is win back to back,and unfortunately the Spurs could never manage to make that happen unlike those other teams. And that's ok you guys are still up there just can never be at the top.
@elijahbruno2814 Жыл бұрын
I wonder why this fact is never brought up for Larry Bird. He never won back-to-back and he had the Lakers as competition
@JD-ny3vz Жыл бұрын
@@elijahbruno2814 Maybe people are biased because it's the Celtics idk. But I do know for me that's why I view the 80s Lakers above the Celtics. They repeated and the Celtics didn't.
@elijahbruno2814 Жыл бұрын
@@JD-ny3vz I respect your stance and your opinion
@JD-ny3vz Жыл бұрын
@@elijahbruno2814 I appreciate you for not attacking me bro.
@JD-ny3vz Жыл бұрын
@@elijahbruno2814 Also not sure if your a Spurs fan but I respect the hell out of the Spurs entire organization and run, that 2014 Spurs team is my favorite team to watch ever. Just calling it like I see it.
@BrentWoodSean38 Жыл бұрын
5 Chips > Back 2 Back 💀
@Chuck_A_Luck_Stank Жыл бұрын
How do the Spurs have the highest finals win percentage with 5 for 6 when Chicago went 6 for 6 in the finals?
@isaiahedwards6586 Жыл бұрын
Spurs had alot of gentleman sweeps, where the bulls usually went to 6 games
@munimathbypeterfelton6251 Жыл бұрын
The Spurs swept the Cavs in '07, and beat the Knicks in '99 and the Heat in '14 in five games each. Only their championships in '03 and '05 required 6-7 games to achieve their ultimate victories in each series, respectively.
@stevelegreid Жыл бұрын
What’s your favorite Castlevania?
@jarrinwebster4129 Жыл бұрын
Basically when the lakers figured it out they weren’t winning titles. With the exception of 03
@MJIZZEL Жыл бұрын
Bruh the "H" in Horry is silent btw.
@holdmyweight3597 Жыл бұрын
Can’t be a dynasty if you never won back to back
@SojiFro_0 Жыл бұрын
No back to back chips. Reason #3 why I rank Kobe higher than Timmy.
@connormacleod1490 Жыл бұрын
Kobe aint even top 10.
@tj5180 Жыл бұрын
That’s a horrible argument
@Amick44 Жыл бұрын
Big deal. They had a 2 decade strong stretch, if not pure dominance. Better than a repeat or even 3 peat. Had a solid chance almost every year.
@SojiFro_0 Жыл бұрын
@@Amick44 Kobe has decade worth of dominating Tim Duncan in the post season. Timmy could barely make it out of the first round while Kobe was carrying the Lakers back to back in 09, and 10.
@connormacleod1490 Жыл бұрын
@@SojiFro_0 there is a guy named shaq in the lakers.
@libertines24 Жыл бұрын
They had realistically two chances in 2006 if manu didn’t commit a dumb foul and in 2013 if Ray Allen didn’t hit that 3 You could argue 04 but I think the pistons beat them regardless 08 they weren’t good enough to beat that lakers team. 2000 Duncan if he was healthy might've posed an interesting challenge to the lakers but idk
@munimathbypeterfelton6251 Жыл бұрын
The Spurs beat the Pistons in '05 though, and it was the same Detroit team as the year before in '04.
@bboywolf4 ай бұрын
@@munimathbypeterfelton6251 tim duncan got clamped by malone though lol he didn't deserve to make the finals
@thomassharer8453 Жыл бұрын
Kobe has a winning record against Duncan in the playoffs. As long as Smush Parker wasn’t his running m8, Lakers handled the Spurs
@rafikz77 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Shaq
@invincible0463 Жыл бұрын
@rafikz77 kobe was always the best player against the spurs, and in 08 he destroyed them by himself in 5 games.
@jacobmoreno7706 Жыл бұрын
Still mad at the dude running the clock in 2004. Wheres the home court advantage??
@jamoa3395 Жыл бұрын
And Le flop what happened
@chaoscarnage9581 Жыл бұрын
If David Robinson played, with Tim Duncan and they were both Rookies so they'd be together until retirement, and the Spurs still draft Parker and 2nd round pick legend Manu Ginobili, the Spurs would have dominated the 2000s by the time Robinson gets injured they tank the season before Kawhi comes along, and trade picks plus players to get a top 3 pick and draft Him again, by the time Robinson returns the Spurs would win atleast 2 more and Robinson retires in a blaze of glory just like he did in real life in 2003, but if this fantasy had legit really happened, the Spurs from 1997-98 to 2013-14 the Spurs are winning atleast 7 or 8 rings Parker came in 2001 Manu in 2003 so by 2004 of they haven't won atleast 1 yet, from 04 to 2012 they are winning 6 titles. David Robinson in his prime at the same time Tim Duncan in his prime with Parker, Manu and years later with Kawhi,................It would not be fair. San Antonio would have passed mj in rings won without a doubt. I don't see the pistons winning in 2004, the Lakers aren't getting 3 with Shaq, Kobe might get 1 of his 2 that he won back 2 back, Boston certainly ain't getting theirs nor is Dallas in 11, Miami in 06 definitely not too.
@rafikz77 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if Duncan had prime Shaq and was playing in a big market
@pogi5290 Жыл бұрын
imagine if u actually hooped. imagine if u know basketball. but u don't sad
@rafikz77 Жыл бұрын
@@pogi5290 thank you for proving you have never played organized basketball
@pogi5290 Жыл бұрын
I know u never hooped nerdy boy
@christophertifre2018 Жыл бұрын
Not a dynasty if u can't repeat
@gumdeo Жыл бұрын
Facts.
@joshuacantere6785 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Spurs fan and I agree with this.
@prlysis Жыл бұрын
From 1998-2014, the Spurs: • won 1,099 games (117 more than any other team) • outscored their opponents by 9,394 points (next best was the Lakers at 5,008) • never won less than 50 games (or the strike-shortened equivalent) • won five NBA titles (no team in the era won more, and only MJ's Bulls and Russell’s Celtics have ever won more as a group) They were easily a dynasty, in my opinion.
@elijahbruno2814 Жыл бұрын
The 80's Celtics never repeated. That's not a dynasty?
@aaronjohnson6622 Жыл бұрын
It didn't seem that the NBA was cheating in San Antonios favor, opposed to the Lakers but if I'm wrong, show me.
@lukesmith9692 Жыл бұрын
I didn't know diop destroyed Duncan
@waynewilliams2102 Жыл бұрын
tim duncan traveled in that false gamewinner after 03
@life0093 Жыл бұрын
Repeating is overrated. Most of the time it means no team got better
@anthonytorres7411 Жыл бұрын
I think they could've 3 peated in 06 07 08 cause if you think about in 06 the mavs lost to the heat in the finals and in 08 the lakers lost to Boston in the finals so if you think about it if the spurs were in it would have been different.
@anthonytorres7411 Жыл бұрын
The best chance was 2008, but I think age was getting to them, and they came off a 7 game series against New orleans so they were pretty tired against the lakers in wcf
@invincible0463 Жыл бұрын
Kobe bullied Duncan in 08 lmao. Destroyed them in 5
@anthonytorres7411 Жыл бұрын
Did u not see my other comment above. And yes ik I was born yesterday.
@elmascavidal1797 Жыл бұрын
Shaq & Kobe !!!!
@Kalinbuggs Жыл бұрын
Short answer Kobe 😂😂😂
@trebledc Жыл бұрын
Why the spurs never won back2back cause they're not the best team. Simple.
@slimypickle19 Жыл бұрын
People put way too much emphasis on back to back titles. 5 is 5, Spurs & Lakers were dead even from '97-'14. Let's twist the argument & ask why the Lakers had droughts from '97-'99 & from '03-'08 & again nothing from '11-'14?
@nickgleeson7168 Жыл бұрын
Because it's hard to win one
@Cartmenez77 Жыл бұрын
Maybe because they’re not as good as what others are saying, they’re just lucky champs.
@munimathbypeterfelton6251 Жыл бұрын
In hindsight, every professional sports champions involves a bit of luck. But none of the Spurs' titles were flukes. It's not like they won each of their five championships and never made the playoffs in any of the other surrounding NBA postseasons.
@eish88194 ай бұрын
Awful take. Winning an NBA championship is not a matter of luck, let alone winning five of them. Many NBA superstars and HoF cannot even win a single championship. Sure injuries to the opposing team might be considered a matter of luck, but that is about it. You can't win through that alone in 80+ games season and 4 seven game series.
@rollinstonemoula9689 Жыл бұрын
Simple answer Tha Lakers was also Winning
@jjohnson4013 Жыл бұрын
People for get Lakers still the only team to three peat since the bulls also Kobe is the only player since jordan to win back to back two diffrent times
@danielcubillasvaldez1784 Жыл бұрын
Because ginobili fouled😢
@ethanennis8 Жыл бұрын
It’s pronounced Orry btw
@Kilgore2k12 Жыл бұрын
because they are not super team 😮
@iansanchez966 Жыл бұрын
The Spurs *could have* won 5 straight from 2003-07, but they didn't. No back-to-back championships means I just can't call them a dynasty. A really good team, competitive for 15 years, but could never defend their title. Not a dynasty. P.S. Consider this: What kind of 'dynasty' has another team three-peating between their 1st and 2nd title? Also, can a 'dynasty' have a 7 year gap with no titles? if you restricted the 'dynasty' to 03-07, I'd at least consider it reasonable, even if I disagree
@CarryBrahHighlightReel Жыл бұрын
Why The Spurs Never Won Back To Back Titles? Lakers
@Mike1122. Жыл бұрын
Kobe Bryant?
@apark91 Жыл бұрын
The Spurs were never a dynasty. No back to back means no dynasty.
@andrewchester3527 Жыл бұрын
People who have Tim Duncan over Kobe literally must’ve never watched their careers.
@rafikz77 Жыл бұрын
no they are just smart people who understand basketball
@andrewchester3527 Жыл бұрын
@@rafikz77 super team system player on one hand, closest thing to the goat on the other, the smart people are taking the latter
@andrewchester3527 Жыл бұрын
Besides the fact that Kobe owned the spurs that whole era
@slimypickle19 Жыл бұрын
Trust me, I watched both careers & any basketball fan with half a brain would choose Duncan. Duncan being selfless allowed the Spurs to remain title contenders EVERY year for 20 years & that's no exaggeration. Kobes selfishness allowed Shaq to leave town, making the Lakers absolutely irrelevant until they got Gasol. There are other factors besides numbers that make Duncan 10X better to choose over Kobe, & being an incredible teammate is one of them.
@antoniop5739 Жыл бұрын
@@slimypickle19lmao
@Rodanguirus Жыл бұрын
It's always struck me as odd to hear people go "this is why I rank Kobe over Duncan" or "this is why I rank [x dynasty] over the Spurs." Like, there are legit arguments for certain individual players or dynasties being better, but I don't really get why repeats are given so much weight. In many ways, there are more factors in favor of a team repeating rather than winning a few years down the line: The conditions that let them win the first time are more likely to be the same/similar. They're more likely to have the same players who won, there's less time for age/injuries to take a toll, or opposing teams to make adjustments and become stronger. I mean, you can easily flip things and ask "why couldn't Kobe/Jordan win outside of an 8-10-year window? Duncan could."
@JD-ny3vz Жыл бұрын
I completely disagree, repeating in sports is the single most difficult task to do hence why most teams can't or never do it. This sounds like more of an excuse to not criticize the Spurs. As far as dynasties go them not ever repeating is a knock against them compared to the ones that have.
@jjohnson4013 Жыл бұрын
@@JD-ny3vzi agree Lakers is still the only team to three peat since the bulls no other team have done it not just the NBA but NFL MLB and NHL also kobe still the only player since jordan to repeat as champ two diffrent times something Tim never did
@elijahbruno2814 Жыл бұрын
@@JD-ny3vzBasically the Celtics of the 80s aren't a dynasty because they never repeated like the Spurs right?
@JD-ny3vz Жыл бұрын
@@elijahbruno2814 Reading comprehension is key and I love how you thought you got me. I never said the Spurs weren't a dynasty I said when compared to OTHER dynasties they are lower than the dynasties that did repeat. So the Spurs and 80s Celtics are lower than the 90s Bulls, 60s Celtics, 80s Lakers, 00s Lakers and 10s Warriors in my book.
@munimathbypeterfelton6251 Жыл бұрын
I agree! The fact that the Spurs still kept winning even though they never repeated as champions said everything. The Lakers had a major dry spell from 2005-2007 with either zero playoffs or early playoff exits during that timespan, respectively. Plus, the fact that the Spurs kept returning to the Finals even in nonconsecutive postseasons meant that they could still be counted as contenders for the title each and every season. It's not like they won their five titles every eight years or so.
@Aarontank24 Жыл бұрын
I actually never knew that the spurs won 2 titles in a row!
@lukesmith9692 Жыл бұрын
They didn't.....
@manesmarcellon6059 Жыл бұрын
The spurs couldve easily have like 10 or 11 rings by now of they won back to back.