Why The Yonko VS Admirals Isn’t Close

[@quhe]

Did you just say kaido and big mom are the 2 weakest yonkos am I hearing that correctly?

[@quhe]

Yeah you did you a clown fr kaido was definitely the strongest after wb got out of his prime idk what the hell you talking about

[@DemonAshura]

@@quhe if u listen he said at the time of marineford

[@alberobluilblu]

They are.

[@quhe]

@@DemonAshura they still weren’t you clown

[@quhe]

@@alberobluilblu yeah you are illiterate if you believe that

[@Nightlingbolt]

Any given Admiral WILL lose to any given Emperor. Why? Conqueror’s Haki. The Admirals generally rely on overwhelming Devil Fruit powers, but except for Sengoku and Garp (who I count as an Admiral for powerscaling purposes despite him not actually holding the rank), they don’t seem to possess Conqueror’s Haki. Maybe Sakazuki has it, but I’m not holding my breath on the others. Meanwhile, at least five Emperors pair their overwhelming Devil Fruit powers with Conqueror’s Haki, even coating their attacks in it. Hell, Shanks doesn’t even HAVE a Devil Fruit, and look what he did to Kidd! Now, obviously Buggy isn’t unlocking Conqueror’s Haki anytime soon, and Blackbeard may or may not have it depending on how reliant he proves to be on his Devil Fruits, but unless I see Kizaru kicking with a Conqueror’s-coated leg, I’m giving it to the Emperors any day of the week!

[@lukeliam6614]

Not buggy.. unless he is with croc and mihawk

[@307nishchay8]

I m a huge shanks and akainu fan. And I'm willing to bet akainu has acoc. Plus I'm also willing to bet that there's something special about logia awakenings. Because oda is purposely hiding it for a long time. Feats wise, emperors are def above admirals. But it all depends on oda at the end what route he wants to choose. Because I think admirals are being downplayed too much. I understand them being downplayed against shanks because shanks has the strongest haki...but against luffy and other df users? That doesn't sit right with me.

[@kvngslatt_]

deadass like until you can show me VERIFIED PROOF that the admirals besides Sengoku have Conqueror’s haki, they don’t stand a chance against Yonkos. and also something that fans seems to forget… if the admirals were stronger the emperors wouldn’t even exist. they would’ve been defeated years ago

[@AlB-d3s]

​@@307nishchay8 Akainu can't possibly have acoc. Maybe just conquerors but advanced no 😅😂😂it took him 10 days to barely beat kuzan who doesnt have acoc and akainu devil fruit is a major counter the kuzans . If akainu had acoc that fight should of been ended in a day

[@mr.shorty7310]

@@AlB-d3swell that just put kuzan on a whole other level. Kuzan was the prodigy student of the legend garp. He has the same strength and stats as of Garp. They trained together. And kuzan doesnt have a weaker elemental fruit. His fruit isnt ice ice. Its cold cold. He can freeze anything. Literally anything.

[@afnaankhan3617]

You immediately showed your bias and younkou agenda by saying Kizaru was actually scared of ben beckman.

[@kewpiesensei]

i mean he was scared, no?

[@afnaankhan3617]

@@kewpiesensei no

[@kewpiesensei]

@@afnaankhan3617 then why didn't he shink laws submarine

[@afnaankhan3617]

@@kewpiesensei cuz it was underwater and his attacks didn't reach the submarine.

[@LJustKidding]

@@afnaankhan3617 It more so seems like he didn't wanna deal with Shanks' whole crew after taking down beckman, Shanks wanted the fighting to stop and had he kept fighting against Shanks' comrade at that, it'd start some problems quickly

[@KingAshtray]

I think admirals are heavily underrated so far oda has been using them to show off other characters power now I think it would be the opposite soon. Edit: I am not saying admirals are yonko level y'all just keep taking shit outta context

[@stevecavalle]

How ryokyogu was weak as heel, Fujitora had trouble with doflamingo, thé old admirals where unable to beat commanders without cheating so Can they do better against the current straw hats for instance ?

[@KingAshtray]

@@stevecavalle How was greenbull weak Because he was In-between 2 YONKO CREWS?. Akainu and aokiji changed an island permanently and fought for 10 days that is the 2nd longest fight in one piece. And remember Aokiji just took jozu's arm. Kizaru had the balls to think he was going to stop big mom and Kaido. Admirals are also masters at observation and armament Haki according to oda. Akainu has the best offensive fruit. How did Fujitora have trouble with doffy he didn't even look like he was trying spamming meteors. So if there so weak why would oda save them for the last saga just so one of the straw hats would one-shot them?

[@stevecavalle]

@@KingAshtray For greenbull I am not saying he IS the weakest of the bunch only that none of what he showed us inspire strengh : not doing great against Momonosuke being humiliated by Shanks who was miles away, endurance IS not power Giants fought far longer than aokiji and akainu much sooner in the story are they yonko level ? For Fujitora ok he might be more powerful than doflamingo but if he IS really going to be a end game villain why is Jack still alive while Fujitora had help from Sengoku and Tsuyu, are the admiral really the final villains or are there Others candidates like Xebec or Im sama

[@alphakeeny1boi338]

the admirals were just making the commanders lose their guard mind you the admirals were caught off guard as well but took little to no damage while commanders were completely incapacitated

[@alphakeeny1boi338]

@@stevecavalleI mean look at this Marco and jozu attack kizaru and Aokiji while their guards were down kizaru just got a little cut on his cheek and Aokiji just had a little mouth bleed while Marco was off guard he got 2 shot and was on the floor for a while and jozu lost an arm jozu the same person to redirect mihawks slash

[@muizmin]

Kinda can't wait how oda will handle the power scaling when the marines fight luffy's gang in future

[@RedLights9000-f3l]

Except the monster trio the rest of the straw hat army is no way close to the marine army

[@muizmin]

@@RedLights9000-f3l We'll see💯🙌🏽

[@widodoakrom3938]

Lucci got a lot power buff so the admiral will got a lot power buff too

[@muizmin]

@@widodoakrom3938 For sure... Especially akainu

[@thunderranger3027]

@@widodoakrom3938 but he got no diffed

[@JoJo-mj8wr]

The best WB was able to do against Akainu was a sneak attack, and even after that, Akainu got up 5mn later to Solo most of Wb captains plus jimbei and crocodile while Wb lost Half his face.

[@ppmpyae1152]

Whitebeard literally standing still behind akainu while even a normal navy soldier(nami can literally take on hundreds of those normal soldiers) could see and call him out is a sneak attack?

[@KurokamiNajimi]

He didn’t solo his crew they stopped him

[@buciiiiii]

@@ppmpyae1152read the manga. It was a sneak attack the anime dragged it out

[@JoJo-mj8wr]

@@KurokamiNajimi It took nearly all of Wb’s commenders plus crorodile+ivankov+ jimbei to slow him down...

[@christianmedina4107]

​@@ppmpyae1152Well Anime makes weak the admirals. Akainu destroyed WB easily, even he lost half of his face, not like In the anime

[@venerablebook]

them mentioning yonko admirals and schichikubai maintaing in order is because all the yonkos are not one side .

[@willietowns8105]

if you wanna say akainu was holding back you can make the same argument for whitebeard because he did not want to hurt his crew

[@jeremiahyoung4617]

Which many believe is true. However you also have to factor in that after ace death and he wanted to separate his crew from the marines. Whitebeard got serious, which means he actually tried and still lost. Now I think even then with whitebeard at marineford still couldn't win. Now primebeard is a whole different story. Based on story wise close to the end I believe e even primebeard not beating akainu. Story wise he'll need to be stronger to face a eos luffy.

[@renutus1580]

The crew literally evacuated when whitebeard had his second fight with akainu lol, I don't think that applies here

[@nathanlevesque7812]

derp, all we know is who won the war

[@shadoow411]

@@jeremiahyoung4617 Not at all, the crew stopped fighting but refused to leave marineford (As he was planning on bringing down the marineford with him, but you can see even at the end they still stood behind him watching him and never left him). In conclusion, WB was the most one holding back to not hurting his crew members which he consider them to be his children, unlike Akainu who pretty much expect the soldiers to die as long as they win (Even Sengoku said it doesn't matter it's just a building we can rebuild it again when BB took over WB's df and went crazy). Akainu wasn't holding back at all. If it wasn't for the stab (which was the reason for most of his sickness kicks during MF) he would've won (Obviously BB excluded).

[@JustaOnePieceFan-b6q]

@@jeremiahyoung4617 I agree with everything you said till the part where u said that Primewb loses to Akainu… I mean why do you think oda made him sick to begin with? Prime wb is the strongest Yonko dude

[@Pickle6432]

The difference between Kaido’s title of ”The World’s Strongest Creature” and Whitebeard’s title of ”The World’s Strongest Man” is that Kaido’s title is presented by the narrator as ”people say” and ”he is considered”. While Whitebeard’s title is just outright labled as the strongest without any fluff. This goes the same for Hawk-Eye’s title of ”The World’s Strongest Swordsman” which is labled bu the manga without any fluff. So people need to stop cosplaying Crocodile and slander Whitebeard. Calling him leaps and bounds weaker than he was before. He was still the Strongest Man in The World and cleaned house at Marineford.

[@nathanlevesque7812]

Only pirates get those kinds of titles. It's a bounty and propaganda thing.

[@obmis_arraid21]

​​@@nathanlevesque7812 yea, people tend to forgot Oda world building is so good, rumors exist in the one piece world and are quite frequent.

[@sebastiandargbe5061]

@@nathanlevesque7812 No he wasn’t. Characters outright call him the worlds strongest creature and he’s called it in road to laughtale.

[@nathanlevesque7812]

@@sebastiandargbe5061 that doesn't contradict what I said

[@Ectooooo]

I am going to say the terms you guys are really funny😂 you know why? In road of laugh tale it has been stated that kaido is the strongest creature and it hasn't been stated in road to laugh tale is said to be so i love the fact you guys literally still exists even tho road to laugh tale contradicts you all.

[@velboi3823]

Honestly its simple in my opinion. Yonko > Admiral > Yonko Commander. My evidence is Marineford: When a Yonko Commander attacked an Admiral with their guard down (example: Diamond Jozu punches Aokiji) best damage they got was a mouth bleed. When a yonko commander let their guard down against an Admiral, the admiral instantly put them out of the game. (Example: kizaru shoots marco, jozu gets frozen by aokiji) Then there's Whitebeard - the yonko. Like you said, he's the weakest version of himself so he struggled against one singular Admiral, but still he packed him in the end. Marineford is more than enough to give us a solid idea of the powers scaling. As for Shanks, I believe he is, or at least near pirate king level. He KNEW what roger was capable of, he saw it with his own eyes, so when the crew disbanded and he went to train, he's obviously want no less than Roger. So far a lot of his feats seem to be proving my theory, but we'll see

[@ibrahimsurti4922]

WB IS NOT THE WEAKEST BOI Even as a sick man he displayed power wayyyyy higer than big meme, who is pathetic to be honest

[@jamesonedwardsii4943]

You’re looking at it wrong. The World government is the TOP POWER in One Piece so they have the strongest fighters. Akainu is just as strong as any Yonko being the fleet admiral and his “commanders” the regular admirals are weaker but stronger than any of the Yonkos commanders besides Marco, Zoro, Sanji, Beckman

[@OLDGENISTHEFODDERGEN]

@@jamesonedwardsii4943 Marco, Zoro, Sanji is nowhere near Admiral level bro. Maybe Ben Backman can give a hard time or extreme difficulty to an admiral, but I don't think he can win against an admiral.

[@OLDGENISTHEFODDERGEN]

Akainu just fell in the crack that WB made. But after some seconds Akainu stood up again to fight.

[@mentalexwar]

Agreed, they literally showed us the scaling and people tried to deny it… imagine if 3 yankos were there.. literally the admirals would get mid to no dif

[@surfninjafishing8297]

Yankos are always fighting and active vs admirals just chilling

[@levanteluxegifting8430]

they gonna kill themselvs eventually the yonkos

[@nathanlevesque7812]

Shanks did nothing but chill for 500 chapters then when right back to chilling for another 500 chapters. Kaido spent more time drinking and crying on screen than fighting until the raid. Big Mom beat up her own family who just tries to contain her more than anyone else on both counts. Whitebeard sat back even when Teach killed Thatch. It's just Luffy picking fights everywhere he goes.

[@obmis_arraid21]

​@@nathanlevesque7812 LOL I just realized in marines the more you are ranked, the less you will be in actual fights, my man akainu burning in his office, only waiting for action since 2 years now. Unleash the 🐕

[@Opana223]

​@@obmis_arraid21 kuzan better 🤓

[@obmis_arraid21]

@@Opana223 i love kuzan more too but akainu is more epic.

[@GoldenMedalMMA]

Bro missed so bad😞 to another fallen soilder 🫡🍺

[@sore9934]

Why did he miss

[@si1vers1ay3r]

That background video is sick! 🤯

[@baby0891]

Cant wait for akainu to pack up everyone in the final arc

[@jasperking442]

Would love to see that

[@luckylazaros9653]

Unless he has some killer Haki he is getting packed like it's Tuesday.

[@punani_slayer4209]

In the final arc brook or chopper would be enough to handle akainu. Luffy wouldn't waste his time with fodder

[@realnickotine]

@@punani_slayer4209crazy take

[@jkthegreat5687]

@@punani_slayer4209 lmfaoo fym nami low diffs the whole Marine

[@picklerick5846]

The answer is in Marineford, To face 1 Younkou crew they mobilized their greatest forces.

[@teezy1234]

You are absolutely right

[@guilha1506]

Your scale for Shanks is kinda off He blitzed Akainu off guard and clashed with WB who wasn’t using his fruit I personally put him as second only to Kaidou in the Yonkous based on portrayal and scaring Greenbull, but by feats he still loses to Akainu (dude was clashing with WB when he was barely injured and was using his fruit)

[@Tylearned]

No one in Marineford saw this man. Also Akainu clashed with a crippled wb

[@guilha1506]

@@Tylearned Oda did it for the scene, it would lost so much impact by showing him coming WB had his medicaments just some minutes ago and only had a stab in the chest, I doubt that just these little handicaps compare to the power of the Gura Gura no mi

[@jpraise6771]

@@guilha1506 Oden clashed with a prime gura. Now unless you think WB got stronger as he got older, Shanks should scale above anything the gura can do. There's a reason he didn't use it against Roger

[@guilha1506]

@@jpraise6771 WB wasn’t using his fruit against Oden (chapter 963 if you want to check) And we don’t know if WB used it against Roger, we saw one clash of a 3 day fight One of the strongest fruits obviously matter in your power

[@jpraise6771]

@@guilha1506 Oda stated the anime for wano is canon, in the anime Oden clashes with WB's gura and even tanks a punch from it

[@Ananderson-z2e]

yonko>>>>admiral>>>>>commander and its not even close also no commander is even close to admiral lvl other then ben beckman and ray and even they are below admiral lvl

[@godspeedninja4286]

Ty finally understands that KOL was right all along 🥱

[@Injustice347]

Any yonko would dominate old whiteboard

[@bananindefortnite6114]

Ace novel says otherwise. Old and sick whitebeard is stated to be relative to the other yonkos just like blackbeard.

[@Injustice347]

@@bananindefortnite6114 he hasn’t got the stamina to keep up with the other yonkos

[@bananindefortnite6114]

@@Injustice347 And? Luffy doesn't have the stamina to do fight for days, but he still would give a yonko a high diff fight at least.

[@Injustice347]

@@bananindefortnite6114 Old Whitebeard isn’t that impressive he could barley use any basic haki and the moment he gets a heart attack the other yonkos are gonna kill him, he also has terrible speeds getting blitzed by the admirals and only tagging Akainu when he catches him off guard

[@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou]

@@Injustice347 it doesn’t matter if his stamina is bad, the fact that the ace novels say otherwise contradicts anything you have to say.

[@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou]

That moment when green bull who’s supposedly “trash” makes it explicitly clear that he’s scared of fighting shanks whole crew after shanks uses his arguable strongest attack on him out of the blue. It also makes no sense for greenbull to just attack a yonko with the intentions of initiating war with another one which is everything akainu told him not to do. Aokiji could have just held back against ace which is something he would do in character and this is ignoring the fact ace has the elemental advantage. That moment when kinemon survives a thunder bugau whereas every important character who has fought kaido directly has sustained permanent damage Shouldn’t have to say a thing about the 9 fodders Shanks blocking an attack from holding back and injured akainu shouldn’t be impressive, especially since the attack wasn’t intended to be used against a yonko level opponent. Intent to kill doesn’t mean going all out as we’ve seen like how ivankov managed to survive a punch from him anyways.

[@michaeldorsey9231]

Where is it shown that Greenbull was afraid of facing the entirety of Shank’s crew (Greenbull himself stated that he’d lose face if he couldn’t take care of commander level pirates), and how is a standard showing of Conqueror’s for intimidation Shank’s “strongest attack”?

[@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou]

@@michaeldorsey9231 because green bull says “you guys” not shanks, pay attention to the “you guys” cause shanks isn’t more then one person. Shanks wasn’t even scared, just shocked and said he would fight shanks given the right circumstances. Being attacked by conquerors haki out of nowhere when your only objective is fighting luffy isn’t exactly ideal. If you wanna talk about commanders doing anything to the admirals, let’s not forget that zoro, law, kid, and the 9 fodder Scarbards have all fought kaido and did stuff unironically.

[@Cipher_Paul]

Can you explain how a simple Conqueror's Haki burst from kilometers away would be Shanks's strongest attack according to you? It's not an attack, it's literally his physical presence being directed at Greenbull, exactly like how someone would be intimated by a glance directed towards them. Shanks hadn't even drawn his sword. When Shanks will finally use Conqueror's Flow on his sword to attack someone *THEN* you'll have a somewhat good argument to call it Shanks's strongest attack. But he hasn't done that yet.

[@xxdemisucksxx]

To quote green bull “If Kaido was still around, I wouldn’t have come” Kizaru got cut fighting Rayleigh The entirety of Marinefore decided they could not fight Marco and put cuffs on him instead. The Marines assembled 3 admirals, all the warlords and the entirety of their forces to fight one Yonko army. No admiral can fight a Yonko since no admiral has Advanced Conq and all Yonko do. . . Well . . .

[@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou]

@@xxdemisucksxx “wouldn’t” that doesn’t mean greenbull is scared of kaido, he’s simply saying that it kaido was still around that straw hat luffy would have died which is more so him complaining that he has to kill luffy rather then kaido Rayleigh cut a casual kizaru who was letting a lot of people live and cutting people a little bit on their face doesn’t mean anything, unless you wanna argue squadro and brook are both yonko level. Yes, they wanna make fighting Marco easier. The world government isn’t gonna fight honorably, they are gonna prioritize the win Just because the world government assembled their entire forces doesn’t mean they needed them, it’s in their best interest to insure a win against whitebeard. They did it to guarantee the win, they aren’t going to fight fair since it’s not in their best interest to do so but they didn’t need to. Having advanced coc doesn’t mean anything, Mihawk, garp, plenty others can fight with coc users despite not having it themselves, why shouldn’t the admirals be able too?

[@D.Strawhat]

“kaido and big mom weakest yonko” also kaido: strongest creature among all living things, highest bounty, called the strongest by Kidd who had already fought shanks before wano.

[@obmis_arraid21]

Kind of people that think defeated first means they are weaker that those left, it's the same type of person that would say when skypeia aired enel > crocodile ( which is a wild take ).+

[@xenoxerex477]

I think there are two admirals who are “Yonko level” one is Akainu and other is whoever fights Zoro.

[@Cipher_Paul]

Akainu isn't an Admiral. The *FLEET Admiral* is the Admirals' superior just like how *VICE-Admirals* are the Admirals' subordinates.

[@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou]

@@Cipher_Paul just a name, you don’t automatically get strong from getting a title.

[@estebanbr7596]

You totally do if you fight to the death for the title. Haki blooms amidst fighting and akainu reached a new level after facing kuzan and winning.

[@mrchris8005]

@@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou Yeah but you do have to be stronger than the other admirals

[@catalyst.4664]

Admirals fans logic:Promotion = Strong

[@rezie9247]

Man litelarry got invected by Agendas and the Bias is really shown lol Can't wait when Oda scale the Admirals even Higher in the endgame lol

[@punani_slayer4209]

Lmao you admiral fanboys keep using the same excuse. In the endgame Luffy won't even waste his time with fodder like admirals. He'll just pass them on to jinbei and ussop since the admirals would just get one shotted by zoro and sanji

[@rezie9247]

@@punani_slayer4209 SLURP... SLURP...GULP....GAWK... GALK

[@punani_slayer4209]

@@rezie9247 😋

[@justlol7281]

Wait, what did that text say in Japanese? It says Kaido and BM are as strong as 3 admirals??? Please explain that.

[@jmnzdomingo]

Don’t forget sabo and a few good men

[@markfoshee4768]

Ran away. There finished it for you

[@f.n8581]

Chapter 1085 😂😂😂😂 Sabo never fought the Admirals and Fujitora was helping the revolutionary to escape 🥴

[@Cipher_Paul]

Have you read the spoilers for One Piece Chapter 1058 ? Some so-called _“powerscalers”_ are going to be salty about a thing or two.

[@biasedpotato8511]

Why would they be salty over some bounty numbers?

[@Cipher_Paul]

@@biasedpotato8511 not over bounties. Over the Marines literally saying Mihawk's swordmanship surpasses Shanks, which a bunch of people hasn't wanted to acknowledge for years, thus reinforcing Mihawk > Shanks. It also shows both Mihawk threatening Buggy with his sword and Buggy being threatened by him which comes to show that, as I' ve been saying, Mihawk can indeed cut Buggy using haki unlike what some have been saying. That's two things that'll make Mihawk haters salty.

[@biasedpotato8511]

@@Cipher_Paul are there really still people that think Mihawk the strongest swordsman is weaker than shanks? I thought it was obvious Mihawk was stronger considering oda literally said strongest swordsman.

[@CatotheE]

@@biasedpotato8511 Yes. Typically, they're the people that wank the Yonko.

[@mrchris8005]

@@biasedpotato8511 They were both contending for stronger swordsman until shanks list an arm and with 1 arm he couldn't keep up with mihawk swordsmanship. They were stated to be equals back then but while mihawk was just sitting there drinking tea shanks was getting stronger, he wasn't even a yonko at that time. Imo shanks is roger level and claps mihawk as of right now.

[@michaelmerino5642]

Yes the man who killed Luffy brother would be a joke in a fight against Luffy make sense for the story

[@fanboy7181]

He didn't blitz akainu he just stopped his attack lol

[@sore9934]

he blitzed him in the process

[@markfoshee4768]

@@sore9934 no he didn't because implies he was attacking him and he wasn't look up the definition of blitz

[@sore9934]

@@markfoshee4768 it was a blitz, akainu doesnt even percieve him until shanks is already blocking his attack

[@markfoshee4768]

@@sore9934 but the word blitz implies an attack and shanks wasn't attacking akainu so by that definition what he did wasn't a blitz

[@relentlesshunter1394]

@@sore9934 do you even know what the word "blitz" mean lmao

[@EagleEye65744]

Bruh Akainu would 2 shot Kaido and Whitebeard if he was serious

[@soloknight7197]

Nah, Akainu learn why the saying is "One on One: Bet on Kaido" Hell, no one is even sure if Kaido is dead

[@CluelessMonkeyKing]

Did bro really say akainu 2 shots kaido? Your comment was 4 months ago but a guy whose best feat is fighting an admiral for 10 days vs a guy who tanks not just random attack but those attacks were meant to specifically weaken kaido. Law and killer can damage kaido internally. Kidd, zoro, and luffy can negate through his durability. Also I’m not sure if anyone has realized but when has akainu even showed himself during post timeskip. The best thing we’ve seen, and I will repeat again, is him fighting aokiji for 10 days straight along with somehow surviving hits from a heavily suppressed whitebeard. If those feats are better than kaido’s, then idk what universe we are in. The statements of akainu suddenly being yonko level is not really true and possibly( key word: possibly )needs more evidence since all of the current yonkos( except buggy because he sucks :| ) have shown some crazy stuff. Additional: If your talking about marineford whitebeard, then that’s kind of understandable

[@WeaponExX]

I just want to say that…this version of shanks is the nerfed version….right? 😂 man is busted. But also i wonder how strong mihawk really is….

[@widodoakrom3938]

Mihawk bounty still higher Luffy lol 3.5 bilions

[@punani_slayer4209]

@@widodoakrom3938 his bounty would be much higher if he had a crew

[@ANKURBHD]

You are forgetting one thing and i.e. Marco's rare devil fruit. Even kizaru (who you say can can beat marco easily) had to use sea prism stone on marco because none of his attacks worked on marco . Use same stone on kizaru and he is nothing just a regular weak human meanwhile yonkos are insanely strong and durable even without their devil fruit . Big mom and kaido are so strong that even scratching their body was also like a achievement as we saw in anime & manga. In short admirals are overdependent on their devil fruits but yonkos are strong even without them because they are strong durable and advanced haki masters.

[@OLDGENISTHEFODDERGEN]

Bro, Admirals Haki can block even Whitebeard's devil fruit attacks. Did you skip marineford? Admirals has advanced armament and advanced observation haki for sure. Maybe some of them has conqueror or advanced conqueror haki too(not confirmed). It's Marco, Blackbeard (Yonko) etc, who are normal people without their devil fruits.

[@ANKURBHD]

@@OLDGENISTHEFODDERGEN i am not talking about theories, i am talking about proofs we had in anime/manga

[@OLDGENISTHEFODDERGEN]

@@ANKURBHD In what piece you see Admirals don't have strong haki or advanced haki? I saw they were using advanced observation and advanced armament haki in marineford. That's why I said that brother.

[@gojirathefatlizard2854]

@@OLDGENISTHEFODDERGEN bro pre timeskip luffy tanked sengokus buddha attack a pre timskip blackbeard who struggled against ace blocked sengokus attack and using that logic I can easily put pre timeskip luffy and blackbeard above the, and both them had no haki pls use better statements yonko slams

[@gojirathefatlizard2854]

@@OLDGENISTHEFODDERGEN also they had no feats of advanced observation even fucking Ben snuck up on them best feat is armament

[@Packirup1234]

I wonder what would now happen if the next time they fight the marines it's shown and proven that akainu kizaru and fujitora can actually beat a younko

[@jamesonedwardsii4943]

It’s going to be proven and everyone is going to look dumb….

[@Packirup1234]

@@jamesonedwardsii4943 FACTS

[@mrchris8005]

@@jamesonedwardsii4943Only one I can see beating a yonko is akainu who isn't even an admiral, he's a fleet admiral.

[@gojirathefatlizard2854]

@@jamesonedwardsii4943 yeah fujitora is weak af he gets packed by any yonko I could legit debate and kizaru struggled against a old Rayleigh who can be argued to say ryou luffy is above

[@youtubewatcher8565]

@@jamesonedwardsii4943 yeah like how greenbull running pissed on his pants

[@nicholasaugello2534]

Pretty sure Whitebeard was stated to be strongest man in the world but kaido isn't actually human so that probably didn't apply to whitebeard

[@Sinahji]

Oda statet himself that alone Akainu is on Yonko Level Kepp on tryin

[@rundfade]

Cap

[@obmis_arraid21]

We don't even need a Oda statement for that lol, it's so clear and factual. Some are just delusional

[@swaggerb0y69]

honestly it's Yonko Commander < Admiral < Fleet Admiral < Yonko

[@tl-josh3058]

I can’t wait til later when we really see the admirals and I come back to all these comments lol

[@paulboton7305]

W take bro I keep telling people this, they even only say admirals > yonko because of their downplay of bb, bigmom, and "featless" shanks. then saying the 3 admirals can actually defeat kaido which is (kind of?) a good take. But I still think Kaido can beat them. but if they include sengoku, and garp (probably because he was supposed to be an admiral but declines it) I think Garp and sengoku being there can make the fight more interesting, with matchups like Kaido vs Sengoku (Dragonvsbuddha) Garp vs shanks (Battle of the hakiman) then the rest of the admirals vs bb, bigmom, marineford whitebeard Content suggestion though: Sengoku ve Kaido( Battle of the mythicals), Garp vs Shanks (Battle of the haki man)

[@halfstrike721]

If the admirals where equal to a yonko yonko wouldn't exist.... because if you have 4 people(including fleet admiral) as strong as every yonko the world government would just pull up with all the admirals and easily dismantle every yonko crew 1 at a time. Personally I think the admirals are on the level of like law and Kidd currently like if 2 adrmials teamed up against a yonko they might be able to squeeze out a victory

[@obmis_arraid21]

That argument work on the other sense too, if the yonko were really superior to marines, marines wouldn't exist, since it's the biggest threat to piracy in a whole. There's a reason yonko rules only on regions non affiliated with the wg in the new world, which is just a tiny part of the globe. Kaido and big mom alliance speaks for itself cause they both know they won't be able to overthrow wg and navy hq if they go solo, we saw what happened to whitebeard who's alliance was the biggest pirate alliance at that time not only his crew, they got mid diffed by like 50% of marines total power.

[@halfstrike721]

@@obmis_arraid21 naw, it don't work like that because pirates aren't trying to destroy the marines they are just trying to do what they want and collect the one piece. They only fight marines if they try to impede them from doing what they want . A marines entire existence is to destroy pirates so if they had the ability to destroy them they would and considering that they used to allow the warlords to exists and the fact that yonko still exist means that the marines aren't strong enough To take down yonko on their own. Just think for a second.... if they could mobilize every marine including admirals and defeat a yonko a crew... why wouldn't they? Yonko wouldn't even be a thing because the marines with admirals could destroy them all anytime they wanted

[@foraus846]

​@@halfstrike721 Yonkos only exist because the navy allows them to exist How clear does it have to be, it was stated by the narrator, doffy, chinjao, etc Yonkos are nothing more than tools, they only allow them to exist so they can keep new pirates out of the new world

[@shay_3859]

@@halfstrike721 What do you think Big Mom and Kaido tried to do during Wano with their alliance?💀. They teamed up to take on the Navy with an ancient weapon.

[@halfstrike721]

@@shay_3859 No, they teamed up to have a better chance to get the One Piece. you have to understand pirates are just trying to find the one piece and the navy is trying to stop them . Pirates aren't at war with the navy the navy is just trying stop the pirates from doing what they want. More importantly it took the full force of the entire navy including the admirals to stop the crew of 1 single yonko(whiteboard)who was on his death bed before the fight even started ...

[@CPTZK11]

I don't know why so many one piece KZbinrs have COMPLETELY moved away from feats and now go purely off of theories and perception. Kaido tanked like 15 different strong fighters all with haki/ryou/conquerors coating of varying degrees WHILE lifting Onigashima. Sorry but no one else's feats is even close, he EARNT that title of the strongest, if Shanks was the strongest the world would say it.

[@obmis_arraid21]

Shanks stans be over rating him, that's a common knowledge, anyone with a minimum of logic can see kaido was the strongest individual alive.

[@levanteluxegifting8430]

I feel like big moms the strongest yonko because she was able to take care of like 72 10 year old children that she gave birth to ALL OF THEM IMAGINE JUST 72 CANKY BABY YELLING I WANT DONUTS YEAH KIDO STANDS NO CHANCE

[@obmis_arraid21]

Big mom is really downplayed, she was my favorite yonko.

[@YorozuyaGinChan]

What's the game in background?

[@Kilo1992]

We’ve seen a lot from a yonko but not much from the admirals especially logia awakening. We’ve seen paramecia, and zoan awakening, similar to df awakening we’ve seen all advance form of haki, and yet we haven’t see logia awakening. I’m just gonna say that there’s gonna be a new power up with awakened logia. And we know who possesses some of the strongest logia, the admirals and bb

[@obmis_arraid21]

Just let people downplay the admirals in a story about pirates, marines are logically the biggest treat to piracy in whole.

[@KTheSlayer]

@@obmis_arraid21that’s what I’m saying there is a reason no admiral have been defeated yet or that we haven’t seen a admiral go all out yet

[@307nishchay8]

For benn, i think he is relative to shanks and hence i think Benn can go toe to toe with admirals or maybe even overpower them. He is literally 14 years older than shanks. And i think he is the red haired pirate with most bloodlust.

[@tajup8741]

Did the admirals get weaker every generation lol

[@Cipher_Paul]

Probably. Garp > Kizaru > Ryokugyu

[@obmis_arraid21]

Not necessarily.

[@cl5rys]

u were making sense till 5:30 if we circle back to the marineford fight akainu low-mid diffed oldbeard idk where u got extreme from also youre not taking into account big mom lacks the brain cells to put her power to use you cant argue someones power if theyre likely not using it so take away her acoc and akainu comes out with the win high diff doesnt matter much though cause all top tiers are relative

[@cl5rys]

im not a admiral tard i have them equal like i do with all top tiers i personally got dragon>=mihawk>=shanks>=kaido>=bb>=akainu>=aokiji>=bm big mom is dumb im not giving her benefit of the doubt at all and im not a bm hater cause i got her in prime >=kaido

[@cl5rys]

dragon is beating bm high diff and beats fuji and gb indivually mid diff imo thats my standing

[@Opana223]

Akainu lost 💀 whitebeard literally two shotted him akainu even got a free hit in and still lost big mom slams akainu have you wano big mom has wayyy bigger feats than akainu if law and kidd fought akainu he would have died 💀

[@OLDGENISTHEFODDERGEN]

It's stated that "Shanks can even fight against an Admiral" , but it's never stated that Shanks can defeat an admiral. So, Admirals=Yonkos.

[@Spartt204]

yup it says shanks can fight equally with the navy admirals

[@OLDGENISTHEFODDERGEN]

@@Spartt204 👍

[@chilliger7841]

@@Spartt204 where can i see this sir?

[@Spartt204]

@@chilliger7841 jus google it..

[@chilliger7841]

@@Spartt204 what to search?

[@smigsboss7582]

Also can I get a link to the site you use to get the one piece data books

[@jasperking442]

How much hype does oda have to give you for you to realize akainu is yonko level like god damn

[@stevecavalle]

How IS he yonko level ? He beaten a admiral level in more than a week.

[@widodoakrom3938]

Yeah that make yonko=admiral

[@stevecavalle]

@@widodoakrom3938 how exactly ?

[@jasperking442]

@@stevecavalle have you read or watched one piece black beard and his crew was scared of him and they are a yonko crew. Oda himself said akainu would get the one piece in one year so he would have to fight multiple yonkos. He’s the fleet admiral and having that position requires power based on having to fight for it. Also we haven’t even seen his full power. Not to mention magma have been shown very powerful like kaidos strongest attack is him surrounding himself with magma Also kaido and big mom both died by lava. I’m not saying in the last sentence that that makes him stronger than yonko just foreshadowing that lava is very strong.

[@stevecavalle]

@@jasperking442 you didn t ansewered me at all and your overhyping him blackbeard did not wanted to start another War and get scared by almost anything Oda stated a lot of things about Akainu power yet nothing he showed us about him put him on that level him having a very powerful fruit good luck with that when fighting a oponent who have a powerful Haki like Shanks or any other Yonko level characters except Whitebeard who was already very sick

[@TheL3wajouh]

Admirals portrayal is better than Yonkos Yonkos are said to be the strongest Pirates while Admirals are said to be the WG’s strongest military weapons mind you that the WG has been running for 800+ years they wouldn’t stand a chance if Kaido , BM , Roger , WB , Xebec , Shiki and whoever before them were in a whole other level. Multiple Strawhat members continuously diss the Yonko title through the story ( Luffy , Jinbei , Nami , Brook…) while Luffy the MC himself tell Coby that he’ll need to be an Admiral atleast to be able to fight him. Admirals were heavily suppressed whenever they were shown fighting ( Sabaody,Marineford,Dressrosa and Mariejoie) The two times they were unrestricted they altered the climate of a an island bigger than Marineford permanently and managed to beat and have better feats against The Scabbards and Yamato than Kaido himself lets not forget Greenbull also no diffed King and Queen and the beast pirates. He was caught off guard by Shanks’s advanced coc haki and still didn’t acknowledge him and said he will fight the red haired pirates when the time comes.

[@Spartt204]

glad someone has a brain here, we need more critical thinkers in this comment section

[@jdlevi7627]

@@Spartt204 fr man, people be saying things out of their asses, glad there's people that can think, I once heard someone saying Wb clapped Akainu bruh

[@davidburke4101]

​@@jdlevi7627 Akainu got hits in on an old sick whitebeard and the first hit akainu was able to get happened because whitebeard had a heart attack and couldn't move. How would a fresh battle between Akainu and whitebeard where he didn't remove his life support go? Akainu would not have taken a chunk of his face nor gotten any of those attacks in, and he would have been packed up in a couple attacks. A fucked up whitebeard nearly packed him in two hits. Akainu did NOT brush those attacks off. Akainu can fly, but he literally had to crawl out of the hole in the ground he was smacked into, and was shown profusely bleeding. A couple more attacks of that level, and he would have been taken out. Even then he didn't actually body any of them, he just forced them out of his way. He only beat ace because magma > fire. Let's stop trying to downplay that ace was completely blocking aokiji. Without an devil fruit advantage, it's clear that Admirals are only a couple steps above yonko commanders. People overplay Akainu being able to get past all of those commanders. He just used his logia to navigate around them. All he did was punch jinbe, who we already knew wasn't anywhere near admiral level anyway, and wasn't even fighting back but was trying to escape and protect luffy at the same time.

[@davidburke4101]

The admirals were never heavily suppressed in any meaningful sense. Fujitora and Greenbull failed to stop the revolutionary army at mariejois. If we assume dragon to be yonko relative, then all of the top tiers of the revolutionary army should be yonko commander level. If so, thats absolute proof that admirals are closer to yonko commanders in strength than to actual yonko. Luffy after beating katakuri was relative to a tier 1 yonko commander in strength. Kaido clapped him in a single strike with literally no collateral damage (all of the damage to the environment in that battle was caused by luffy). Big mom replicated this by beating queen no diff, and could probably have done the same to queen. If admirals were relative to yonko, they should be able to beat a yonko commander with a few strikes, without even needing to engage with any of their more destructive AOE devil fruit powers just as kaido had done. They had TWO admirals there mind you. They failed to capture a single one of them. This just proves that admirals are above yonko commander 1st tier in strength but the gap is mostly because they have top class devil fruits. You put an admiral vs a 1st tier yonko commander with no devil fruits, and it'll be a long battle. But put kaido against a 1st tier yonko commander with no devil fruits?

[@jdlevi7627]

@@davidburke4101 oh shit not this again, an old wb used his most Powerful move he ever did in his life and destroyed marineford, Akainu tanked it, he only came out bleeding. 2nd akainu is said to have the df with highest offensive power, more offensive than any other fruit argue with the author about that, 3rd he fought aokiji for 10 days his stamina is crazy (longest fight in one piece), 4th he tanked wb strongest attack(he has high endurance/ durability), 5th his the current fleet admiral of Luffy's generation, a generation that's supposed to surpass the old generation ( stop riding old gen). One last thing, Akainu was holding back at marineford, the marines were holding back. " OH bUt Wb was sick and old" him and shanks clashed splitting the sky, so by your logic old wb = prime shanks

[@inistark]

What video is playing? Anyone knows?

[@CatotheE]

There are 3 Great Powers. The Strongest Warlord in Yonko level. Mihawk. Why wouldn't the strongest Marines be Yonko level? Akainu fought Aokiji for 10 days. He's not that far off from him. To become Pirate King, you need to beat the Emperors and the Admirals. I can't wait for Admiral downplayers to be proven wrong.

[@pirateking8988]

Why wouldn’t the strongest marines be Yonko level? Ummm cause near death and sickly WB destroyed the strongest admiral at marineford. Did you just skip that arc or what

[@CatotheE]

@@pirateking8988 He snuck up on Akainu and lost his head for it. Whitebeard didn't win.

[@pirateking8988]

@@CatotheE he knocked out Akainu despite being hurt where as Akainu was at full health pretty sure he won but some classic OP no death BS happened and he lived

[@CatotheE]

@@pirateking8988 If anything, the the plot was on Whitebeards side. Akainu literally punched off half of his head and he kept moving around. Whitebeard didn't knock Akainu out either. Akainu fell into a crack when Whitebeard split the island. When we see him after the war, he wasn't even bandaged up. Akainu didn't lose that fight. At best, it was inconclusive.

[@borutolastshinobi1010]

does luffy tank the full rage whitebeard df attack and walks it off

[@guilha1506]

Depends on the Yonkou or the Admiral Debating titles is quite stupid as the levels of the characters vary a lot, like, Big Mom destroys Fujitora but gets stomped by Akainu

[@sore9934]

Akainu gets one shot by any og yonko

[@guilha1506]

@@sore9934 Was fine after two attacks from WB 🗿

[@beyondbirthday5734]

Big mom doesn't gets stomped It'll be a hard fought battle

[@sore9934]

@@guilha1506 and? it was wb on 1 hp

[@Cipher_Paul]

Akainu should be relative to Yonkos because he's the *FLEET Admiral*

[@abolii]

Fleet admiral > Yonkos > Admirals > Yonko commander 1 > Vice admirals

[@Opana223]

So sengoku is stronger than shanks whitebeard and akainu ?

[@SailentZen]

@@Opana223 idk wym by akainu and if ur talking prime sengoku or not but that's probably what the op was implying

[@lxfj2128]

Heavily disagree

[@thecharles2605]

The migawk glazing at the end💀😭

[@sirkaitou]

Did you not watch or read the part where Blackbeards entire crew ran from Akainu? I'm confused, are you just choosing to ignore admiral feats or statements to highlight your opinion and biased towards Yonkos?

[@IAmASupahStarWarrior]

what’s the music that plays at 1:55

[@yourcatalyst7253]

Wonder what you’re gonna say now after Luffy got pushed into going Gear 5 against a CP0 member. At this point, a single admiral is probably stronger than Big Mom.

[@bluntslt8023]

Bro Lucci got folded by gear 5 he didn't even need to go gear 5 to beat him

[@stevecavalle]

When Luffy was pushed to do that ? he used Gear 5 because he wanted to . Admirals stronger than Big mom ? They cant even beat a commander without cheating

[@kewpiesensei]

yikes...luffy was just playing around with g5 honestly boundman or even gigant hammer could stomp

[@yourcatalyst7253]

You guys say he wasn’t serious when it had been the case with any other opponent Luffy had faced

[@kewpiesensei]

@@yourcatalyst7253 i mean if you actually read the manga it was obvious

[@drab7]

bro really forgot about buggy being the strongest

[@anotheret1064]

this aged poorly

[@shrewd42]

Extremely

[@harrymbakwe8424]

How not gonna lie it aged kinda well

[@Shishio7512]

Let me first disprove your first point your saying wb health was declining which is true though that same wb was still on the tier of a yonko since he literally caused the sky to split not too long before marine ford which is invalid and akainu basically mid diffs this old wb the only time wb had the upper hand in the entire arc against akainu was when he caught akainu off guard and even after that akainu proceeds to remove the limbs of wb easily now the other point you said about shanks speed blitzing akainu is also invalid since you can’t prove to me it wasn’t a stealth feat and was a speed feat, also even if this was the case shanks speed blitzing an off guarded top tier is the bare minimum he should do kaido literally got speed blitz by zoro at one point does that mean zoro>kaido? Also the film red point is invalid non canon you’ve also used that shanks scared greenbull away when clearly in the narrative greenbull states he didn’t want to fight the red hair pirates meaning shanks and his crew while being alone which is understandable no one in the entire verse is beating a yonko and their crew alone this is the quote that proves this “I don’t want to fight you guys or for now atleast” the you guys indicate lying more than one person if it was indicating shanks by himself he would’ve said i don’t want to fight you also the thing you said about shanks being the strongest yonko is BS in the ace novel it’s stated to be a yonko one has to atleast be as strong as shanks meaning shanks was the weakest yonko before luffy and buggy Marco was also able to react to yonko such as big mom idk why you don’t include that and Marco didn’t react to kizaru’s lasers since he literally ate the shots instead of dodging them also you were saying that akainu was basically defeated by wb which isn’t true he later fights the entire wb commanders and crocodile included just after getting hit off guard by wb. Also there are many times yonko commanders press yonkos themselves 😂 jimbei towards big mom queen towards big mom zoro towards luffy yamato towards kaido etc holding back a top tier is something that’s more common than you think and as I’ve said film red isn’t canon I don’t know why your still using to to scale characters and kizaru also during marineford ignores Beckmann almost completely and still attacks the submarine and Beckmann does nothing in retaliation

[@stevecavalle]

Did you really read the Marine Ford arc ?

[@Shishio7512]

@@stevecavalle yes I have I’ve also read all canon novels and vivre cards created by the author

[@ehudezra4610]

I agree that generally the Yonko are above the admirals but you lack context here 1 the statement about Kaido and Big Mom being above all 3 Marine Ford Admirals clearly refers to their version that fought Luffy and all held back vs Luffy, it doesn't refer to post timeskip versions 2 WB's DF attack that would've 1 shotted Marine Ford got stopped by Akainu's foot and WB can destroy the world and BM admitted inferiority to him...Big Mom relative to Kaido 3 Kuzan who held back more than Akainu was stated to be the Admiral with best combat abilities in the Vivre Card data book and was implied to be the strongest Admiral by Robin, Akainu able to beat him in a 10 day battle thus surpassed him and One Piece have a position of power tiering so it won't be a stretch to say Akainu gotten stronger after becoming the Fleet Admiral which is after the battle vs Kuzan 4 also Akainu's statement about the Marines not having enough man power to beat the forces in Wano(BM& Kaido's crews +the Samurai's) 5 statements about Kaido being the strongest are just a title there are statements by Blackbeard of him being the strongest yet he&his crew run away from Akainu 6 Akainu blitzed WB multiple times and only got hit once when he wasn't off guard and was out temporarily bc he literally got hit in a vital spot while off guard and fell off a cliff...he later was about to destroy all the remaining WB pirates which is consistent since all the BB pirates run away from him, so Akainu scales up from everything the BB pirates did together before the timeskip and should've got stronger due to the reasons I've mentioned+plot progression 7 Greenbull getting hit by Shanks was him off guard after being damaged(and he implied he'd be willing to them in the future) so it's not an incredible feat for Shanks or anti feat for Greenbull but he got damaged from Momonuske Bolo breath more than what Kaido got from his own Bolo breath so even if Momonuske with Kaido's dragon moves=equal (which wasn't implied as Momonuske kinda sloppy) than Kaido's scales durability>Greenbull fireproof durability thus Burning Dragon Kaido>Hybrid Kaido>~Dragon Kaido~fireproof forest Greenbull~base Kaido So feat/portrayal wise only Kuzan and Sakazuki are Yonko level Fujitora doesn't have enough scaling Greenbull didn't fought seriously offensively and downscales from Kaido, Kizaru probably needed war ship to deal with Kaido+Big Mom...you could argue that whoever Zoro would fight would be Yonko level maybe it's Greenbull bc of perallals(both Green, swordsman, implied to be from Wano, etc...)

[@sore9934]

join the discord and discuss it

[@Cipher_Paul]

You're completely wrong. 1- Admirals are Admirals. They gained their position through power no matter if it's pre-timeskip or post-timeskip. Luffy was also much weaker back then. 2- Whitebeard never tried to “1 shot Marineford” during the entire battle for the simple reason that he, Ace and his men were on it. So you're just making things up. 3- Why would you talk about *FLEET Admiral* Akainu when we're talking about Admirals, not their superior ? He is not an Admiral anymore. If you count the Fleet Admiral then you should also count Vice-Admirals and Rear Admirals. 4- Blackbeard *NEVER EVER in the History of One Piece* said he was the strongest. He only said that *_HIS DEVIL FRUIT *_** (that he had only eaten a few weeks ago) was considered the most **_"dangerous"/"deadly",_** *although* _"evil",_ _"vicious"_ or _"heinous"_ are equally good translations of what he said so we can't really know for sure. 5- Whitebeard was also literally dying and holding back as long as his men were around. So no matter if Akainu was holding back, Whitebeard was at least holding back as much *while also DYING.* Whitebeard also literally fought against 2 other Admirals separately and plenty of high ranked Marine soldiers after being stabbed by Squardo while Akainu was literally just chilling the entire time. If you think Luffy isn't on Kaido's level because Kaido fought more people then you should think the same about pre-timeskip Akainu in relation to old Whitebeard, except it was even more extreme in this case. 6- Titles are taken very seriously in One Piece, just wait and read next chapter. 7- Greenbull is a Logia. It's literally impossible for Momonosuke to damage him. Unless you're implying the Scabbards are the ones who damaged him. Either way it would definitely mean he isn't Yonko Level. Even then, off guard or not, he is literally the first character we've seen in One Piece history experiencing physical pain from a burst of conqueror's haki. Especially one from this far away.

[@ehudezra4610]

@@Cipher_Paul few things here 1 WB tried to destroy the island in general (mainly the center of the island were most navy officers/vice Admirals stood but not the entire island literally), didn't make things up he literally dared Akainu to defend the island 2 WB only had short bursts of fight Admirals never a full fight...which is totally different, while Kaido had fighting rounds that weren't short interaction clashes 3 Akainu did held back while WB did as well but it doesn't contradict the statement about Kuzan having the best combat abilities or Robin implications about him being the strongest Admiral at the time 4 Luffy kinda shown stamina issues in Gear 5 vs Kaido early on in ch 1044 while Kaido didn't outside the flame clouds 5 Aramaki literally shown to be damaged in ch 1055 after the Bolo breath...and yes he's not at the level of Kaido based on implications and feats thus inferior to Big Mom who relative to Kaido and Shanks currently since he's not ready to fight him&his crew yet...yes logically he shouldn't be damaged by anything that isn't Armament/conquers Haki based bc he's a logia 6 Sakazuki literally cancelled out WB's attack with his foot and didn't used named attacks vs him besides 1 that actually penetrated him(and enraged WB gone all out without a doubt he was so bloodlusted he literally saw the thing he value the most die a son)...the 1st clash was before WB started to get weakened substantially...those Marines stabbing him weren't substantial same with Vice Admirals attacking WB only Sakazuki Kuzan and Kizaru really damaged Squardo was more symbolic about the son that was manipulated to betray his father figure it didn't show any effect when he fought 7 Blackbeard in the anime said he's the world strongest and in his clash vs Sengoku literally stated that no 1 can stop him 8 titles in One Piece are matter but sometimes overhyped like "Luffy surpassing the Yonko", but nevertheless i can change my opinion from titles/chapters 9 no 1 said Sakazuki was stronger than WB he was as strong as WB early in Marine Ford(both held back) but a little weaker than enraged WB...and he got stronger he should be an Admiral to make this a 4v4 since Big Mom and Kaido together are as strong as the 3 Admirals from Marine Ford or slightly stronger based in statements(and Sakazuki got hit in a vital point with a durability negating ability while off guard bc he had WB on his knee and got caught off guard by the uniform) 10 Admiral get into position based on strength and sure Luffy was then way weaker than supressed Admiral

[@romusa10]

One correction here, Akainu blitzed WB multiple times because WB also fought kuzan and borsalino and if hasnt notice.. EVERYONE there,,,,with a hole on his stomach

[@eloquitodelaesquina]

Marineford Whitebeard had a WAY better performance than whatever Big Mom did against kid and law. And he never stomed akainu like many want to say he did, in fact, he was the one who got way more damaged in those exchanges, while Akainu was fine by the end. Also, your argument about Marco reacting to admiral's speed I dont get, you actually think he would get blitzed by the yonko? Thats not happening. Also, saying Shanks blitzed Akainu is like saying the scabbards blitzed Kaido just cause they appeared when he didnt think anything would happen.

[@stevecavalle]

Akainu did get stomped in the manga despite Whitebeard being almost dead he had beat Akainu with only a fiew hits now Ask yourself what would have happened if Whitebeard with less injuries had fought Akainu Yes Shanks did speed blitzed Akainu and almost everybody at Marine Ford one moment Akainu was about to kill Coby the moment After Shanks blocks Akainu thats speedblitz he did the same to Kizaru in the movie Red hé clearly did you just trying to give the admirals a power level they dont have because you want them to be final villains

[@eloquitodelaesquina]

@@stevecavalle No, thats false imo. First of all Whitebeard attacked Akainu from behind while he was fighting Marco in order to chase after Luffy, took him by surprise. Akainu even in that disadvantage was able to give a deadly attack back and then with another attack from Whitebeard he fell cause there was no ground bellow, however he didnt get knocked out cause he would have fell into the water. He just kept chasing Luffy wich is what he was doing before Marco and Whitebeard got in the way. He was fine after that and still fought the entirety of the Whitebeard commanders. Saying he was defeated is like saying the scabbards defeated Kaido just cause he fell on the ground for a but of time. Its curious how you say "what would happen if a less injured Whitebeard fought him" well that LITERALLY HAPPENED earlier in the arc and Whitebeard couldnt land a single hit on Akainu. Later on he does cause he attacks him from behind while fighting Marco as I said. Regarding Shanks, he toom everyone by surprise yes, but appearing when noone expects you is not speedblitzing, cause noone was fighting him. Speed blitzing is when someone is actively fighting with another person and one of them just disappears from the others eyes, thats valid, but appearing when noone expects you, even tho its a feat, its not blitzing. Again thats like saying the scabbards blitzed Kaido just cause he couldnt block their attack, its not they just appeared when he didnt expect. The attack was meant for Koby of course Akainu is not expecting a yonko like shanks to block it. Maybe it has to do with the observation haki killing from shanks but we dont know, the point is that blocking that attack doesnt mean that Shanks is rolling Akainu. Hell, Jinbe did the same thing blocking the attack from Akainu meant to hit Luffy, and that doesnt mean jinbe is stronger than him LOL Also, the events of film red are epic but non canon, its mesnt to hype up shanks of course but its as canon as Luffy beating Shiki with G3

[@stevecavalle]

@@eloquitodelaesquina For the whole Akainu vs Whitebeard i will admit that what Akainu did IS Impressive but Whitebeard was not in full power h was already injured by squardo and it was because of Akainu which IS telling of what Akainu think of the probability of him beating Whitebeard For Shanks vs Akainu maybe you are right about speedblitz but if Akainu IS that powerful why not trying to kill Shanks right on the spot now that he IS not surprised why he did nothing this IS a man who cant accept no for an answear IS Koby Say no lets kill him in front of everybody IS Whitebeard dont want to die lets kill him if th commanders want to protect Luffy lets kill them But Shanks IS different why ? Because he IS a Yonko at full power who will likely kill him Akainu fought all Whitebeard commanders by himself ? Did he ? Really ? No he had a lot of marines with him in the manga and how many of they did he caught ? not Many and they where going away because Whitebeard told them to Red not canon ? Yes it ist but you forget that Oda was involded in in that project and that Shanks IS his self insert talking about Red made totally sense

[@eloquitodelaesquina]

@@stevecavalle Not necesarily, its allways better to have an easier job, this was not about honor it was a war so making the enemy army crumble is useful Its not about him not fighting Whitebeard Also, Whitebeard took like 300 sword wounds 500 bullets 50 canon shots and idk what more How is one single sowrd wound crippling him so much? I dont believe it's so bad to him The real issue was his illness as Marco said. But still, even when sick, Whitebeard's performance through the whole war was way more impressive to me than what Big Mom did against Kid and Law, so Whitebeard still was on that yonko level tier If he wasnt ill he probably would have been the strongest yonko So lets put respect on Whitebeard AND Akainu Thats what i say

[@stevecavalle]

@@eloquitodelaesquina while i dont agree about your point of view yeah those powerful and great characters have to be respected Indeed

[@Hamza-ry2wn]

Akainu slaps any yonko 1 on 1 Stay mad yonkotards

[@OLDGENISTHEFODDERGEN]

😂 roasted.

[@Cosmic_JC]

Akainu is gonna get da donut treatment in the final war. Mark my words Marinefanboy 🥱

[@felixbenitez6169]

Despite being an Admiral, Green Bull is certainly not strong enough to fight red-haired Shanks. That's not to say that the Admirals cannot fight the Yonko. Different people exist, and that's why we can't says that a Yonko can defeat a Admiral just because Green Bull got scare by one Yonko. That means each Yonko, Admirals, and Warlords are in different levels. Not all Yonkos, Admirals, and Warlords are in the same levels from each others. A fight isn't always determined by Strength, but also by Intelligence, and Skills. No matter how strong you are, unless you are a good fighter and smart enough, your strength is useless. Each of the Admirals attack whitebear and the only reason they fail us because WB's Crew protect him.

[@smigsboss7582]

Queen knocked out Big Mom😭😭😭

[@biasedpotato8511]

They were head butting each other so I don’t really see how that matters.

[@smigsboss7582]

No admiral has ever been knocked out by a commander

[@biasedpotato8511]

@@smigsboss7582 yeah but big mom wasn’t using homies or haki she just got headbutted.

[@smigsboss7582]

@@biasedpotato8511 Queen didn’t use haki from what I recall and homies don’t boost durability

[@biasedpotato8511]

@@smigsboss7582 she didn’t guard the attack at all and Queen used a strong attack with momentum falling down on big mom and hit her in the head and it didn’t even knock her out instantly.

[@richardishandsome2078]

Game name?

[@ruanvictorcabraldelima4752]

well, your argument about marco, does'nt really makes senses, because big mom had a brief encounter with marco in wano, and she really sad that she could'nt handle marco there, implying that would at least take a while to take down marco, so marco has some feats against a younkou.

[@AllenXiao-k9l]

honestly I thought it was obvious that the yonko would solo if kizaru was afraid of benn beckman and shanks oneshotted greenbull lol

[@stevenz6658]

This video is wrong pre-timeskip admirals > yonkou. Oda pretty much confirmed

[@kewpiesensei]

when???

[@stevenz6658]

@@kewpiesensei Not all admirals but basically confirmed Akainu at least is stronger than big mom and Kaidou

[@kewpiesensei]

@@stevenz6658 ok but when was this confirmed

[@stevenz6658]

@@kewpiesensei Interview between Oda and Yasutaka Nakata, published in Sound & Recording Magazine 2012 Issue 4. Oda said that he needs to be careful of how strong he makes Luffy, if he was to make him as strong as Akainu the whole manga would be finished within 1 year. Meaning Akainu at his current strength level is capable of attaining the one piece. The only other characters confirmed to be strong enough to attain the one piece are Roger and prime Whitebeard. Kaidou snd Big mom both states themselves that they are strong enough. Whereas Oda states that Akainu is.

[@kewpiesensei]

@@stevenz6658 no, he didn’t say luffy, he said akainu himself could finish one piece in a year. which btw, luffys adventure besides the timeskip has only been 10 months

[@anibalprietoamenabar9892]

Wait did you really said kaido is weaker than shanks? The strongest creature alive is one of the two weakest yonkos? Man idk what to say

[@Fire_Fox_hy72]

What game was he playing

[@user-il9he5qp4f]

The marine rain freaking supreme and I don’t think the vice admiral are doing that

[@amak6413]

Music name ?

[@themadmystic1688]

If you want to see Yonko vs Admirals... watch Marineford. Whitebeard was fuckin dying, started the fight with a sword through his chest, lost half his head and still bodied Akainu 1v1. The only reason he died is because he held off the marines so his crew could leave, and because he was already dying. I do not understand why people do not understand this.

[@twick1663]

Mihawk vs shanks is a bigger debate than this lol

[@muhammadsalar616]

i agree with his overall stand but no way my man said kaido and big mom are the weakest yonkos, delusional lmao and WB's title wasn't just given to him , he was the strongest.

[@awangthier407]

Tell me your extremely biased without saying. Last I check blitzing someone is when one is too fast and strong for the opponent to compute what is going on, or annihilating them in one atack like what happened to kid

[@ethanharvey920]

Need to do a shichibukai vs akatsuki video bro 10 v 10 would be epic

[@Naldinho456]

Doffy stomps

[@theobserver3753]

If admirals can beat Yonkos then why didn’t they removed them from the picture one by one?

[@Plutrck]

Pls do a vid talking about chapter 1058 and how mihawk beat those fraud allegations Mihawk our goat

[@YOU-kd5fb]

yonko = fleet admiral.. king pirates= elders

[@mrhunter2154]

I wouldn’t underestimate fleet admiral Akainu, he’s gotten stronger in those two years I have no doubt. Plus he was plenty strong in marineford put up a good fight against whitebeard even if he was old and sick

[@alphakeeny1boi338]

I’d disagree narrative wise they seem to be relative to each other admirals=yonkos

[@stevecavalle]

Did you really read the manga ?

[@alphakeeny1boi338]

@@stevecavalleyes I do we can discuss this if you’d like

[@tunnelvision7906]

They aren’t shown to be equal at all. Shanks scared off Greenbull and blitzed kizaru. His crew member had kizaru on the ropes

[@Relax_Rombey]

@@alphakeeny1boi338 nah narrative wise they are shit. Imu and the seraphim’s are probably the final opponents

[@alphakeeny1boi338]

@@tunnelvision7906 second one is non canon and first one you missing context try again

[@TOPGUN-ep6ur]

This is just a video about what we already know

[@izzybar9470]

Bro said BM and Kaido are the weakest Yonko 😂 They’re the 2 strongest yonko Bloodlusted Kaido > everybody in the verse rn Big Mom > every yonko except Shanks because of the matchup

[@om9959]

Garp and Roger and whitebeard can beat the crap out of kaido.Kaido and big mom are weakest yonko that's why they got knocked out first.

[@charondesousa8868]

@@om9959 Lol you're joking right? Blackbeard has his 3 main gus vs Law, yet law needed help against Big Mom and had to remove her from the battlefield to get a win. Kaido jumped everybody by himself winning multiple times, spanking Law in the process as well. Blackbeards a scrub, he's the weakest Yonko after Buggy, he's just crafty and underhanded. shat himself against S-Hawk who was sweating from Zoro, a YC1.

[@om9959]

@@charondesousa8868 what law did against blackbeard?nothing,bb crap on him later.Landing good on bb by awakened law who freaking break the bones of big mom.

[@charondesousa8868]

@@om9959 Had him throwin up blood same as big mom, Bb needed his crews help, had to use 2 df, nearly sunk his ship, tf are you even reading? Also when Law broke Big Mom's bones, she was taking 2x awakening attacks whereas here we only saw bb get hit with 1 Shock Wille, while it took 2 shock wille's plus Kidd's awakening to break big moms bones. Goofy, blackbeard is doing worse against law as he actually needs help whereas big Mom soloed and had to be removed from the battlefield because she could,'t actually be beaten

[@aspieotaku3580]

Admirals are Yonko commander lvl it takes 2 or 3 to take on a yonko with the exception of garp and sengoku those two are yonko lvl

[@KurokamiNajimi]

Yonko and Yonko generals vary in strength. Kaido vs Yamato I believe is the best example of what happens when the weakest Yonko faces the strongest Admiral for the most. Big Mom vs Akainu would be slightly more difficult but Big Mom has a comfortable edge high difficulty at most not extreme I wouldn’t put Sengoku at Yonko. I know Roger praised him but that’s not really any different than Garp praising Rayleigh and no one argues that he’s as strong as Roger or Garp. Garp and Sengoku somewhat struggled bringing down Shiki, if it was a mid dif then half of MF wouldn’t have been destroyed. Garp is the only one noted to have been a rival to Roger but Whitebeard is the only man stated to ever fight Roger to a stand still at his peak

[@aspieotaku3580]

Yonkos tad stronger than Admirals we can agree on. Admirals on par with commanders on average some slightly stronger than commanders no single Admiral can solo a Yonko at least two or three Admirals required take a Yonko down.

[@Daemon_Belial]

I've always seen as there being too many Admirals and Admiral-level characters on the Marines' side: Garp, Akainu, Sengoku, Aokiji, Kong, Kizaru, Fujitora, Ryokugyu. Like, before the time skio the Marines literally had 6 Admiral-level chars on their side plus the Shichibukai with Mihawk making 7 and the rest of the 7 Warlords and the Admiral-candidates together making 8. So if we assume that 1 Yonko = 1 Admiral it'd mean the Marines had double the firepower of all Four Emperors together, who aren't even allies and failed to defeat them for some reason. This is obviously non-sensical given that the entire world shits itself at the mere thought of 2 Emperors becoming allies.

[@obmis_arraid21]

Sengoku and garp aren't admiral level anymore, if we follow sheer logic at marineford neither of them could beat any of the 3 admirals at that time. The same most likely goes for kong. Mihawk is indeed relative to an admiral since he his the world strongest swordsman in a world where shanks is one.

[@otobakashvili705]

@@obmis_arraid21 both sengoku and garp were above admiral level at mf

[@hellothere-dk4gg]

Yonko > any 1 admiral (without speculation) 2 admirals >> any yonko Admirals >> any yonko commander

[@kaiju9645]

the marines fucking suck lol. having trouble with yonko commanders, getting crowned on by Momo and Shanks, AND FAILING TO STOP SABO AND A FEW GOOD MEN FROM SAVING KUMA!?!?!? actual incompetence. Akainu is the only Admiral that is truly Yonko caliber, and he's the fleet Admiral. He isn't even a regular Admiral anymore. damn.

[@LJustKidding]

The Fleet Admiral of the golden age of pirates, is definitely not losing to a TOP TIER, from an older generation, it just doesn't make sense. Sakazuki > PrimeBeard > Kaido > Kizaru > Luffy >= BigMOM

[@coolkcroyale]

Calling kaidou and big mom ‘weakest’ of the yonkous is crazy to me. Technically I see where ur coming from but it’s not good wording

[@nathanlevesque7812]

I will never understand why One Piece fans think they can assess how a fight would end based on partial interaction. Luffy would "lose" basically every fight he's had if we judged that based on even the entire first half of each. The level of extrapolation that people do instead of just asking what is good for the story is absurd. There is no meaningful scaling for these characters other than 'top tier'.

[@amogus1415]

Not really,yonko can be stronger than admirals,doesn't contradict anything in the story.

[@മലഖാ-ബ9ഘ]

Actually they are closer than you think

[@SamriKhalil]

Yonkos >= fleet admiral > admiral >= yonko first commander .

[@juancarlosn]

A fresh shanks shows up at Marineford and now people think Yonkou are over admirals 😂 Roger said bring garp or sengoku no one ever mentions that. No one mentions how GARP had deadly battles with Roger Another thing kizaru still attacked Luffy after that. Kizaru wasn't scared of Ben Beckman.

[@stevecavalle]

If admirals who where 3 are so strong why not killing Shanks on the spot Buggy also says that the only one who could have faced Roger was Whitebeard, Garp and Sengoku fought Shiki together who was weaker than Roger and they beat him with extreme difficulty Yes he totally was scared in the movie Red he was still scared of him and when kizaru attacked Luffy Beckman was already with Shanks

[@kewpiesensei]

fresh but he has one arm and just fought kaidou

[@kewpiesensei]

also thats prime garp and sengoku not current day lol and we barely know how roger stacks up to the current strongest characters

[@SobaEnthusiast]

@@kewpiesensei shanks having one arm doesn’t second shanks didn’t fight kaido

[@SobaEnthusiast]

@@stevecavalle why would they start a fight with another yonko after they just killed one that’s common sense and prove garp and sengoku beat Shiki extreme diff

[@shadoow411]

I agree with everything you've said, however I disagree when it comes to Kaido, Kaido is the 2nd strongest Yonko, here is my list to make it clear 1- Shanks 2- Kaido 3- Blackbeard 4- Big mom

[@rashawnhoward564]

Whitebeard never knocked akainu out

[@stevecavalle]

are you watching the anime or the manga ?

[@rashawnhoward564]

@@stevecavalle Both

[@arpandey698]

Being a pirate does not give one a power boost. The ceiling of strength should be equal on both sides.

[@stevecavalle]

How IS it equal ? When one yonko and his allies are able to give the fight of their lives to the marine and the warlords how are they equals ? Garp and kizaru Said that dealing with raighley and Whitehead at the same time would be too hard so how are they equals ?

[@obmis_arraid21]

​@@stevecavalle fight to their lives ? lol. Only akainu was fighting fiercely, kizaru and aokiji didn't so much, warlords were just there for personal reasons. Basically only the fodders ( foot soldiers)marines, pacifista, and akainu carried that war. If the shishibukai were really involved, marineford would be embarrassing for tje pirate alliance, it wasn't just whitebeard crew, it was the biggest pirate alliance at that time. Even when shanks arrived if sengoku didn't give the order and shishibukai like mihawk Hancock doffy join the fight seriously, the red hair pirates would get folded too, since mihawk himself is implied to be stronger than shanks or at leats really relative, the others admirals and warlords woul take care of the rest. The navy would still win with some spare power left to face another yonko. U really underestimating navy full power at their full power.

[@Vulcan-c3i]

Bro imagine 3 revolutionary infiltrating mariejoa ...mariejoa who has many CP0 AND 2 admirals present but sabo and his companions still manage to escape bruh.... people might forgetting something lmao🤣🤣 this proves ADMIRAL