Why This New JURASSIC PARK Raptor Theory Could Change The Island Lore

Jurassic Park: Survival, the new PS5 and Xbox game is bringing more Raptors to Isla Nublar. But where do they come from? Were they always wild on the island like in the Crichton novel? Or were they sent from Site B like the Telltale game? What do these new dinosaurs do for the lore?
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[@beenjammin2000]

“They’re lethal at eight months. And I do mean lethal.”

[@thickerconstrictor9037]

Yeah but not 8 hours. The game takes place right after they leave the island eggs JUST hatched

[@beenjammin2000]

@@thickerconstrictor9037Exactly, which is I think the Sorna theory holds more water.

[@HumanHamCube]

I dont know why they would want to bring them at the same time the island is being inspected. But hammond gotta hammond. ​@@beenjammin2000

[@SunTzu176]

@@thickerconstrictor9037 The book has an entire tribe of raptors, from children, to juveniles, to full blow adults, living in the maintence tunnels near the power station.

[@arkansasstorm]

Dude was right. They should all have been destroyed. Lol

[@Mr.thintelligent]

I’m thinking it’s like Michael Crichton‘s novel that the Raptors had escaped and had been breeding in the wild for years🤔

[@Moutopher]

My exact thought too

[@MattGarZero]

For sure.

[@nickgonzales4674]

My favorite part of the novel was Malcolm figuring out the island had more dinosaurs then everyone figured.

[@ghoulscout4075]

I came here to say this. We don't know in the movie cannon how long the raptors were in their paddock before they were transported. The paddock is pretty big and they didn't know they were breeding. The eggs Grant found were freshly hatched. These raptors may have been unknown about and were isolated in the paddock protecting the eggs. Eggs hatched, they've gone a bit without food and now they are very hungry.

[@bingerz237]

I beg to differ. For you see, the other raptors had constructed a crude suspension bridge to Venezuela. Once there, they laid low and one assumed odd jobs under the name Mr. Pilkington.

[@HumanHamCube]

And Mr. Plinket-on

[@illuminossentertainment3253]

Obscure, but funny.

[@giorgiolarriva4814]

“The critic “ if any one was wondering

[@marianorocker]

I think raptors have breeding from the beginning in the wild and hiding on caves on mount Sibo or the tunels just like the novel...

[@marianorocker]

If there was an raptor outbreak maybe they were eating compys that have been used to clean thrash and dung on the park, just like the novel, and eating other dinosaurs like microceratus that have been breeding out of control like raptors and compys

[@jasonlitz2907]

This is my guess. No one says Grants clutch is the first clutch hatched.

[@HumanHamCube]

​@marianorocker or each other. How big was the pride? Muldoon said she "took over the pride and killed all but two of the others" so if there were several raptors breeding there could be a lot of them out there.

[@jasonlitz2907]

@@HumanHamCube They bread 8 originally. So based on that 1 "Male" and 7 females

[@M1GarandMan3005]

I kind of have a wild theory, would it be in the realms of possibility that the absent herd of Dilophosaurs could have been eaten by the raptors by exploiting the weaknesses in the fences, and being able to venture out into the other paddocks? Just a theory.

[@terrysyvertson9205]

people are forgetting about the baby raptors, the one from the hatchery and the ones from the clutch of eggs that grant and the kids found

[@jasonlitz2907]

@gregabott5583 no but who is to say that was the first clutch

[@HumanHamCube]

Maybe they were infused with xenomorph dna ​@gregabott5583

[@terrysyvertson9205]

​@gregabott5583 all the animals had been modified to grow into adults very quickly and that modification could have mutated to make them grow up even faster than expected

[@nuke2099]

@@terrysyvertson9205 Yeah but Survivor begins one day after.

[@1988SUPREME]

I remember reading that Tim threw one of the baby raptors at one of the Adults and it ate it.

[@RyanJSeavey]

In earlier versions of the script for Jurassic Park, Wu is telling Hammond that the Raptors killed their pack mates and they never found the bodies, and it turns out that they weren’t actually killing each other, And the ones that were believed to have been killed were the ones that were breeding in the wild. also I wouldn’t be surprised if the the breeding has been happening long enough that there are in fact adult wild raptors, like in the novel, that take care of the younger ones and the eggs. In the novel, the wild Raptors avoid detection by being nocturnal and surviving off the rodent population on the island/ lack of nighttime surveillance of the park

[@Dino_Boy.01]

Jurassic park has so much lore and in the movies it’s hardly looked at!

[@Greenthero]

Why do I see you everywhere

[@micky_qt]

If this new raptor pack isn't from the colony found near the steam vents/beach/service tunnel in the novel's epilogue then it's a retcon and not deep lore. That's the only established lore about additional dino's. Everything else is a retcon, like if these raptor's are some batch of raptors that broke free from a Site B delivery right as the park went to shit, then meh.

[@Jimmy94411]

There’s only two books. There’s no other lore.

[@Nexus_2002]

Who’s to say the raptors only bread once? Sure the eggs in the nest we see in the film were freshly hatched but that doesn’t mean other clutches weren’t born 6 months to a year earlier?

[@nicklacey9516]

True, if the others were locked up, and eggs had just hatched, since their track were there after the storm, then other raptors would have had to lay them, I don’t think the big one killed as many as they thought, I think ingen made assumptions based of how many they could find when they round them up, a few bodies

[@knightbane3752]

As I pointed out they made escape attempts before, how many were successful as in they got out for longer than a day

[@runic_raptor]

That's my thinking as well. The eggs we see in the movie are third generation perhaps, and the ones in Survival are second generation

[@TheSimstR]

my guess is unauthorised breeding, just like the novel. might be the raptors who layed the eggs that dr.Grant finds hatched in the wild. and thats why nobody found out about them since raptors are very protective of their nest and eggs seen in the jp3. maybe they were laying low by the nest until they hatched. some birds dont hunt and starve just to protect the nest.

[@PaxEuropae]

At least one couple of adult raptors has to roam free, in order to lay the eggs that Grant and the kids find.

[@shainewhite2781]

They were shipped in from Site B as juveniles, then their DNA would have been used to make more Raptor eggs. Like Dr. Wu even said in the movie all the dinosaurs are female and they used a hormone at the right development stage to prevent them from becoming male dinosaurs. Dr. Grant realized this later that the frog DNA caused the dinosaur code to mutate, changing their sex from male to female in a single sex environment.

[@DinossauroDaAmazonia]

Did they use Growth Hormones in dinosaurs?

[@HumanHamCube]

I don't think they would ship them in the same time as the inspection. I always wondered why they even bred raptors. I don't think I would breed anything smaller than a doorway lol

[@JackHillyard-bt2lk]

If you read the first book there was already raptors of different sizes roaming the island through the events of Jurassic park, would be even more interesting if the adolescent Rex would be on the island too

[@zakyrath]

I came to comment this same thing. In the book we have Alan and the lawyer go and destroy the nest site in the caves. Also hope the game includes the swarms of compys that were allowed free reign in the park to clean up the poo. Always liked the small science in the books like the bacteria to break down Dino feces is extinct so it doesn't decompose fast enough

[@Poisonwc]

I would still love to see JA Bayona or Jordan Peele get hold of Lost World the novel and make a movie following it. I wouldn't even care where it fell in the timeline, if it even did.

[@SCPguy]

I’ve got a theory: they didn’t recapture every Velociraptor. They assumed they were killing each other because no one found the rest, they saw one or two dead raptors and assumed that’s what happened to the rest. But that’s not what happened, so by accident they let enough Raptors stay in the wild long enough to breed, and those are the raptors we’ll face in Survival

[@simandi1511]

the thing is, we do not know if the batch of eggs alan and the kids find are the only ones. most likely they're the most recent like you pointed out correctly, but we cannot rule out the possibility of even earlier hatchlings, which are now fully grown. so, imo, them being wild raptors makes a lot of sense.

[@jocelyntrishell]

I like the idea that they’re pulling from the novel. It wasn’t just the raptors that could’ve overpopulated on the island. The colony were seen leaving the island and maybe subsisting on extra herbivores. The computers’ monitoring algorithm was not programmed to find more than the required population of dinos

[@GEOVANNInum9]

With regards to what they had been eating, I liked the part in the novel about there being a rodent problem, that mysteriously disappeared. The wild raptors eating them being the answer. That could be adapted...

[@Alf-gm7tf]

Would be cool if they adapt the raptor colony migrating off the island by boats.

[@krystenwheeler3056]

This is actually what I was thinking, I remember another video about the book/movie mentioning how some raptors had stowed away on the boat heading to the main land and wonder if that's how our extra raptors have made it to nublar instead of going to the main land on the boat with the others.

[@anubusx]

Somehow the raptors returned.

[@Casual_guy1234]

Something has survived

[@ghostofbaz]

Palpatine raptors 😆

[@dustinyancey2194]

Cue "disbelief look"

[@Blackstar_Gaming1997]

So I take it Disney wrote this story?

[@Autobot00001]

Well, to be fair, that was only one Raptor nest we saw in the first movie, and there might've been a few others in the Raptor Paddock before they got moved to the holding pen, and they might've been surviving by hunting some of the wildlife that was native to Isla Nublar before the dinosaurs were introduced.

[@ghostofbaz]

I might have missed something but remembering the books but doesn't it suggest the dinosaurs were multiplying without the people knowing? Like Malcolm points out the flaw with the island systems how it only counts the numbers accounted for and doesn't check for additional numbers?

[@jmbond6728]

Yes! I LOVED the part in the book when they take the expected numbers out of the system and run the program to find ALL of each animal and are shocked at the amount of previously unknown animals out there. Not just raptors, I think nearly every species had more individuals on the island. BOOK SPOILERS: For those who haven’t read the book and are curious about details, the Park had the computer program set to count the expected number of animals, wanting to monitor if animals had been killed or escaped the island. They didn’t consider breeding to be a possibility so if the program was looking for let’s say 4 triceratops, it would stop counting when it found 4 and show “EXPECTED: 4 FOUND: 4” next to the animal. Any extra animals would be ignored. When they removed the anticipated numbers and let the program count all of each animal, it came up with “EXPECTED: 4 FOUND: 10” Really cool moment showing how life really did find a way.

[@ghostofbaz]

@jmbond6728 thanks for that. Been a very long time since i read it so couldn't remember it clearly

[@jmbond6728]

@@ghostofbaz you’re welcome! It really stood out to me and, seeing how pretty much every animal was breeding, underlined how foolish they were about everything. I wish they had put it in the movie because it was a fantastic “oh, we really, really f-ed this up!” moment for some and “how arrogant were you to program the system like this?!?” for everyone else.

[@eh2396]

Would be cool if we also got a survival horror video game based on the lost world but make it the island from the novel. That thing was scary to enter and once you were in you were pretty much trapped.

[@SMDubsmore]

1:46 not those hatched but those who were laying eggs. Following the main lore, there were more raptors but they never noticed due to the limit set on the counter linked to the park's video security and containment. Long story short: Once they've checked how many real raptors were roaming free they have also noticed all the other extra dinosaurs. That is the part were book and movie kinda blend together. So yeah I'm positive about this theory. There were more dinosaurs in general due to nesting far from rangers daily patroling.

[@Henry_mariolzx3]

I think the thing that makes me most excited about this game is the fact that they will show other locations and dinosaurs that were in the park, but we didn't see in the film, like the safari lodge and the baryonyx or metriacanthosaurus

[@PaperMacheThief13]

Raptors bred in the wild is the easiest solution. What we need is more info on the park animal tracking system. Is it a situation like the book where they were so confident in their process that they told the computer the exact amount of dinosaurs to look for. The computer locates the requested animals and ignores the rest. If that's the case, it is easier to believe that it would take a long time to notice extra dinosaurs

[@garypfeiffer3489]

They had BETTER have the Triceratops be Cape Buffalo type aggressive for rappelling the raptors like in The Lost World novel!

[@RogueT-Rex8468]

I’m taking pages from the actual novels and these are wild raptors that have been there a lot longer than anyone knew. These raptors would be first gen wild raptors that clearly grew up rather rapidly in the wild- this could be due to their genetics or literally, as you said, a Bumpy situation in which they have a hormone that naturally forces them to grow into adults a lot faster than they would normally. In the books as you know no one knew about it because of how subtly they were able to thrive in the wild, specifically by hunting on the rather agitating rat population. The fact that they made themselves known is likely a combination of the fact that the fences went down, there is literally nothing holding them back anymore, and their food source can no longer sustain them and now they’re going after larger prey. We may end up literally seeing that cave scene at long last after all these years near the end of the game.

[@andrewpayne5093]

Another theory I have is the raptors they were creating on Nublar in the lab... we literally see one hatch, then never see it again. It probably got sent to a nursery were other young raptors are being kept, maybe at different ages.. We later find out that sorna was the main island were the cloning happened, but regardless raptors were still seen being cloned on Nublar so there would be more around somewhere for sure. Muldoon said they are lethal at 8 months, so maybe the raptors in survival are young, maybe around 1 year old, so they are still lethal. Maybe they got cloned on Nublar to replace the ones that got killed, and saved time transporting them form sorna later on.

[@dplajh4243]

Yeah, Raptors having Xenomorph-like aging would be weird. The idea is that the breeding had been occurring for years up until that point. The eggs that Grant and the kids found were just the latest ones. The other Raptors that hatched before could be at least 8 months, and lethal. That, or it's a plot hole and a contrivance to get the most popular horror related dinosaur in a survival game. Remember how the book said that Isla Nublar previously had a rodent problem that suddenly went away? That's what the Raptor colony was eating, which is actually more palaeo-accurate (eating smaller, not larger prey in packs). Love your videos, keep up the good work!

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

I don't know about that more pale-accurate part. We don't have the diet of any dromosaurs. All is just theory, and the pack theory is not disproven yet and is backed up by the healing of major bone fractures (something that doesn't really happen with solo animals in the wild but does happen in communal ones) and their large brain to body size (larger than crows, communal birds, and larger than any pack hunting land mammal. While communal liveing doesn't mean pack hunting, see crows, there is nothing definative to say that it wasn't either.

[@marcteller4673]

So here's some looked over facts straight from the movie: Grant and the kids find the eggs *before* the velociraptors got out. (We know Nedry left the power on for the velociraptors pen because Mr Arnold outright says it, and their fence only lost power when Hammond orders that the system be shut off to reset it and that's when they made their escape. The system shut off scene is the scene after the egg scene). This means there must be other velociraptors on the island that laid the eggs. We also know that velociraptors eggs require incubation from the incubator in the birth scene. We know the eggs that grant finds weren't buried, because they are on top of the ground (turtle eggs, which are buried, stay buried and the baby turtles dig their way to the surface). This means a velociraptor had to sit on the eggs to incubate. All this means that its cannon that there are other velociraptors on the island from the beginning.

[@naahvi4867]

Love that there will be more raptors and the River Cruise from the novel.❤

[@zacharyjohnson9361]

agreed, inspiration from the books need to be taken more!

[@eddiehoplight2003]

Klayton I like your idea that there may be a raptor colony underground, the reason why no one knows about it is, anytime a maintenance worker goes into the tunnels they get munched on by the raptors

[@JurassicCollectables]

Hey Klayton great video as always! From a production standpoint it has been confirmed those footprints are made by using the feet of the Baby Raptor SWS model pushed in to the ground, I believe it was Shannon Shea who confirmed this. So that further strengthens the idea they are indeed baby raptors. But I have this thought - are we supposed to believe those Raptors escaped the pen, travelled to near where Grant and the kids were, laid the eggs (where they hatched instantly!) then travelled back to nearby their pen and the power shed? In the timings of the film this feels unlikely, when you consider one went off to hunt Arnold and then the two others stalked the nearby jungle. So I get the impression the breeding was out of hand - and these are actually eggs laid by wild Raptors unaccounted for. They were probably remaining hidden and killing when opportunity struck. It's possible they were few in number but they must have been present to lay those eggs....what do you think?

[@KlaytonFioriti]

I think that’s the only thing that makes sense I’ve heard so far haha.

[@JurassicCollectables]

@@KlaytonFioriti Haha - even if it's just three loose Raptors - you could very easily write the exposition for it "Alfie Betty and Celia, the three first cloned Raptors escaped the Big One by tunnelling out from their paddock. When park workers realised they were three Raptors short - they launched an emergency rehousing to a smaller pen so they could find the breach in the paddock. This coincided with an imminent visit by Grant and co, so it was not completed and the Raptors remained unaccounted for. Perhaps explaining Muldoons worry about door locks on the cars and paranoia about Raptors escaping"

[@Jose_Lopez08]

I would not be surprised if in the game we probably get a number of reasons as to how we have new raptors after the events of Jurassic Park but if I had to be honest I think these raptors in the game were brought over from site b.

[@SemiO11]

My theory is that the Site B ship containing the raptors (assuming that is the route they are taking) was just not at the island during the movie events - hence no worry. But the raptors broke out of their containment (similar to JP2 with the baby Rexes). Hence the boat doesn’t turn around when the park closes and it hits Isla Nublar.

[@Emperor_Oshron]

my guess right now as to where these new raptors came from is that they _were_ brought over from Sorna and their actual arrival might even be seen firsthand by the player in an homage to the bull rex escaping at the end of TLW, (and partly the novel and one of the even older games) where where they were being shipped over but escaped en route, killed everyone on the ship, and then it crashed somewhere on the island, perhaps specifically as a "hope spot" moment for Maya as she sees the ship's lights and tries to flag it down for rescue only to realize it's getting a bit _too_ close to the shore

[@chaoticiannunez2419]

Well, in defense of the breeding raptor idea, the novel reveals a hidden colony, meaning that if this game were to go in that direction, then it would mean that raptors had been breeding and roaming around hidden for months if not years. Remaining undetected because of the laxed use of tally system of the motion trackers and presumably avoiding human contact. For those unaware, in the JP novel, they discover the dinosaurs are breeding when Arnold checks the tally program that counts the dino population on the island, and types in a higher number than the expected one. Because the computer was only programmed to let them know if they have less than the expected number, not more, it never alerted them. Hence, why they were oblivious. I can picture a moment where Dr. Joshi encounters raptors, but then questions how there could be three when she finds two of them dead in the Visitor Center, so she checks the computer and lo and behold, there's a population of around 40. So, if there were to be wild raptors, it would have to have been happening for some time. It wouldn't be an instant growth spurt. The nest seen in the film could've just been the most recent clutch, but far from the first. Could be that the raptor escapes from freezer and encounters these wild variants, and joins up with them. Again, if they were to use this plotline from the first book. I know it's a different canon, but if you present it right, it could work.

[@brycevo]

Life finds a way. People are forgetting that

[@paleontologiabrasil9731]

I’m honestly happy they decided to include more than just the one on the frigde, raptors work way better in the franchise as a pack of themn

[@vevans0009]

Noticed the "Raptor Paddock" scene too. Every time I see it, I think to myself, "That CAN'T be that small holding pen". Must be a sizable exhibit.

[@thejurassiclogs6043]

The telltale game was one of my favorite games and this franchise is like my third parent to see it being like the novel the first one and second and third it could bring a grown man to tears

[@AncestorEmpire1]

Escaped Raptor: “You’re not putting me the cooler”

[@HomeLesFARTS925]

TBH I cant fall asleep unless I have Jurassic Park on at night. Something about it JUST hits home.. idk if it's the sounds and voices but that movie is my ultimate Go to. Probably my favorite

[@Kenneth_A_H]

Thanks for covering this! I posted this question in the last video! Lot of fun theories!

[@stuartvandermerwe8548]

All I want from Jurassic Park Survivor is a good combat system, where you can use weapons against the raptors or other threats that the character runs into throughout the game, it's not a horror survivor game if all you do is run and hide and have zero way to defend yourself like in Outlast games, but should be more like Survivor horror games where you have a weapons system, can make or craft weapons, or use the environment around you.

[@MikePhoenix007]

The answer is there in the novel. There have been wild raptors in the jungle from the beginning. In the novel some raptors escaped way before the park opened and had been breeding in the wild for quite some time.

[@user-yb6oz1tz2j]

Nice vid

[@mr.han_5016]

Also the line from the book, “let me guess when you first showed up to the island there was a rat problem, but over time it dwindled down?” I think the raptors had plenty of food to survive off of and maybe they would pick off small animals that inhabited the island

[@the_dudeabides]

"We bred 8 originally, but the big one she killed all but the other 2." - Muldoon I have a feeling that the freezer raptor was Big One, so the other 2 Raptors are definitely new ones. I think the most simple answer to this all will be new shipment like JPTG.

[@bigd11312]

Spitballin here but maybe they are from the clutch of eggs before the one that hatched with Dr. Grant during the tour and just hadn't been integrated with the adults yet.

[@redlightdino]

I truly can’t wait for this game and I really do hope this is canon and actually makes logical sense with these three raptors returning. I want more lore building set during the original 3 movies. I stand by the idea of a mini series following Dr Wu and InGen returning to Isla Sorna before the events of JP3 where he clones the illegal species and the storm hits. That would be awesome!

[@TheLinkszal75]

In the book the colony wasn't noticed until they found the juvenile and they went looking, in regard to the movie if there was nest before the raptors were moved they could've had time to grow, also the "big one" was added more recently so the older ones could have bred already and the little ones got out. This makes me want to read the book again

[@XrosHeartless]

I think the "Shipped from Site B" option is the easiest way to explain them.

[@fluidicrift]

In the comics Allen Grant did point out that there were defects in the counting program and that there was sporadic breeding happening "somehow". Hammond waved it off as a kook theory and chastized Nedry's shoddy programmer skills for miscounting on he screen which is what prompted Nedry to do the "extended diagnostic" that doomed the park. No one on the park had caught on that the raptors were breeding because they were the most aggressive, JP was undermanned and no one was going out of their way to stumble onto freaking nests.

[@denisaraujooliveira715]

A third theory would be a combination of the first two: The raptors had already been breeding on Isla Sorna and some escaped into the wild and boarded a ship from Sorna to Nublar. At Nublar, they remained anonymous and began to reproduce there. The nest that Grant and the children find would be one of these raptors.

[@Lonesoldier2268]

Yay a new video

[@haloreachs666]

A little bit of both The eggs that grant found were part of the original group the ones that were part of jp that were killed by the big one. but The one we see in the holding pen are the ones that were brought over from site B hence why they were separated from the paddock. And why noone found those eggs. Everyone thought all the raptors were killed by the big one but a few escaped and been makin babies

[@ThaChicken]

In the books, they talk about how the dinosaurs are eating the rats on the island. Like when they got to the Island, it was plagued with rats but as time went by, the rats all started to disappear. It was heavily implied that this was due to the compys and most likely the raptors too. To be fully grown and chasing people in so called safe zones seems far fetched but at the same time, they had a perimeter fence and in the books, the raptors dug down in to the service tunnels and were by the ocean side during the finale. So is it possible they managed to get back in or they are adapting part of the book, sure it could be. You also have to remember that in the book, they weren't killing the people on the boat, they were hiding from them which would mean at least that they might not be hunting the people actively and are avoiding them but when the power goes off, perhaps all bets were off. Not to mention, animals and storms you know. That extra level of agitation may have pushed them over the edge. Not to mention, if you remember, in the books, workers fixed broken fences with no protection detail and right in the Dilo territory without a worry in the world so from the sounds of things, people were pretty casual/suicidal in the books when it came to their own safety. So, is it possible that they are bred on the island, seems very unlikely with the timeline but it is possible. Also, you have to remember that in the books, the park workers didn't install the fence breakers properly and they got fried every time they came in to contact with the trees which meant fences were down consistently too. The novel dotted throughout how the park was really ramshackle construction. Low quality labor, people didn't understand what they were doing or how to do it and just kinda went with it. The entire park was doomed from the start and even though Hammond likes to say 'spared no expense' - he in fact was cutting corners in every way possible. Long story short, could there have been more raptors on the island, no, not unless you rewrite movie cannon. It is possible that the first raptor that changed to male did so early on and without any other males was the pack leader and was jumping all the females and creating lots of babies and the babies could have easily made it out of the fence when the power was down. However the problem with that is the way fences appeared in the movie is not the way they were depicted in the book, they were more akin to chain-link fences which means they would have needed to climb out which the raptors were good at but it would have been harder for the small ones. Which means if given the chance, the big ones would have escaped along with the small ones so that doesn't hold up. On top of that, if Muldoon knew about more Raptors in quarantine, he would have said so, he was freaked about just 3, if there was an entire pack 2 doors down, he would have lost his mind. However you want something that won't break the cannon and even gives a nod towards the book. The boat that arrived, the one that everybody was getting on to and Nedry was trying to reach. Have the raptors move from site B to site A using that boat, like an exodus that they were so freaked out about in the book, just reversed. Simple as that, Site B was a lab full of nitwits to begin with. That said, if you want to make it more obvious and not stowaways, just have broken crates by the docks along with shipping manifests that indicate that the ship was literally unloading them and to make it more fun, have the dates wrong. Like have some security feed showing some guy argue with the people trying to unload the boat, have it show that they were meant to take on some other dinosaurs but took the raptors instead. So they screwed up their delivery schedule. Just layer on the incompetence to another degree and have it as an Easter Egg for the hard core fans to go and figure out, either with looking at the documents, or finding the video feed with or without sound. Maybe if you play it, you garner the attention of the raptors so you gotta run but if you stay close enough, you hear it all. Or if you want to spoon feed it to the players, just literally have your game character pick it up, deduce it for you, and complain that they screwed it up and now they are her problem. Maybe give her a few seconds to actually get some character development by talking to herself. Now that was meant to be my 2 cents but it feels like it was my JP ted talk. So hope you like it.

[@ThaChicken]

Ooh and just to add to that wall of text, you could also have the video show the guys are trying to figure it out and make calls but the phones are buggy and they cut out, it would have to be before Nedry purposefully takes them out or perhaps even that he gets through to somebody but they already left early. Perhaps even just have them told to put them out and it will be taken care of but then it never is because the people responsible just figure it can wait a day till they are back. Perhaps even have food and water put in the place they were meant to be kept till after the storm. You can really push more of the book's intent on a barely held together mess if you just show gross incompetence and negligence everywhere you go. Just a constant mentality of, not my problem/don't worry, it will work out.

[@andresdeleon5160]

This is gonna be awesome and We should wait for the answer

[@mr.random8649]

The raptor captured in the fridge might have been freed by those new 3 raptors from the screen

[@DarkManjiGaming]

You should do a video about Dino Crisis because Capcom released the results of the poll to see which Capcom game franchise needs a new game or sequel and Dino Crisis came out on top

[@LBTElectricDinoOnline]

Clever Video of the Raptor theory in the Jurassic Franchise especially from Jurassic Park 1993 and it seems very interesting and fascinating and great work on the amazing Jurassic Content. Great Work Klayton and as Always, Take It Easy and Life Finds A Way.

[@Fluffykeith]

If i remember right, the novel begins with a whole issue of children on the mainland being killed by an animal the locals call a Hulpa, or raptor. The implication being that the park's security has already failed before the events of the novel and raptors are loose already. And SOMETHING laid those eggs that Grant found when he was with the kids, and the footprints they left look pretty much like Raptors to me.

[@coreywallace742]

I think it makes sense to have the extra raptors. In both book and movie it showed that there was always raptors loose on the island. It is possible that there were raptors loose on the island before the visit. I honestly think the raptor were unnoticed because no one was probably watching at night.

[@jocelyntrishell]

Yeah, I think it just happened to be that no one thought to look for them bc they were so sure of their breeding program and tracking system

[@zakyrath]

That's one my favorite moments in the book. When they change the counting system for the tracker to show all the dinos instead of the expected amount.

[@malikamadou3433]

The eggs found in the clutch by Grant & the kids were Brachiosaurus eggs. While never stated definitively, in the Junior Novelization, its heavily implied that the "singing" done by the Brachiosaurs were mating calls. The Raptors hadn't even broken out of their enclosure yet at this point in the movie timeline. I know in the original novel, it states they were Raptor eggs but in movie canon it simply isn't possible for that to be the case unless your position is that the Raptors had escaled their enclosure previously to lay eggs then for whatever reason went back or were recaptured.

[@jakeleeper7282]

I’m sure Henry had some sneaky side stuff goin on at this point too

[@thecosmicaesthetic]

Yeah, I'm guessing the raptors bred and those little ones booked it from the raptor enclosure because the other adults were trying to eat them. That would explain the adults fighting among themselves, and eventually the raptors were desperate to break out of their enclosure. Possibly to relocate the young, but were unsuccessful. That first batch of baby raptors escaped into other parts of the island and ate rats, just like in the book. They grew up and had begun breeding off grid out in the wild as well.

[@ArtemisDalmasca]

My best guess currently is that they were others bred to help replenish the population, given that they were clearly breeding raptors still in the facility. So, maybe Muldoon being worried about the Raptor fences might've included that as well. Whatever the reason, I hope that its well thought out too.

[@candyrapper]

I really think the other raptors are the og ones from the movie and that their appearance as a trio takes place before they go after Muldoon. I feel like some of the game has to take place before 2 of them get offed by Rexy because it would be super abrupt to just start a day after the events of the first film. That's my bet.

[@monitormayhem8186]

I like to think that they are the raptors who were “killed” when the big one took over. That they tested the fences found a weakness and got out. Then Muldoon assumed they were killed and eaten by the 3 left while they were roaming taking out smaller game on the island waiting for the big one to get free from the new enclosure.

[@Z-Man7]

The revelation of their being more raptors on the island in 1993 is very interesting. This could open up new story possibilities and maybe even tie into the new movie.

[@kalevipoeg6916]

Of course it doesn't break canon - we KNOW from the book that raptors had been breeding in the wild in Jurassic Park for QUITE a while as there were far more counted than InGen's list accounted for, and while they really glossed over this in the film, even in the FILM we have proof that raptors ARE breeding - Grant comes across a raptor nest in the wild near the Brachiosaurs, with already hatched eggs showing tracks from the young that had left the nest. THIS means that those eggs MUST have been laid LONG before the events of the film - the three raptors could not POSSIBLY have escaped, laid eggs and HATCHED the eggs in the very short amount of time the guests were there. Meaning, quite CLEARLY, there were ALREADY - even in the film - ADULT, MATING raptors on the island. Now, how they GOT out there is anyone's guess, but a solid guess may simply be that the raptors in the pen and whatever individuals predated them HAD been breeding, the young hatched, and made their way outside of the fence, able to squeeze through some gap because they were much smaller than the adults. For large-bodied birds and reptiles, incubation time tends to be weeks to MONTHS - typically months - and there are NO species with large eggs that can incubate in a day or so. So, whatever raptors laid those eggs, it WASN'T the main three in the film. So, yeah. Film OR book, doesn't matter - raptors being loose on the island BEFORE Nedry shut the power off is 100% confirmed. At any rate the ones in the GAME set a day after JP do NOT have to be the same individuals that hatched from the eggs Grant found. They COULD be - we don't KNOW how long those eggs had sat there before Grant found them - but given how fresh the tracks look, VERY unlikely. THIS means that OTHER adult raptors are on the island OTHER than the hatchlings OR the big three - which, again, IS EXPECTED, since the main three raptors AREN'T THE ONES WHO LAID THOSE EGGS. Eggs do not materialize magically - meaning - and again the book and basic logical analysis of the raptor nest in the film CONFIRM these (the 3 main raptors did NOT escape and lay eggs months ago- they escaped HOURS ago - and eggs DO NOT INCUBATE AND HATCH in a matter of hours) - one very, very simple truth: Isla Nublar had a population of adult breeding raptors at MIIMIMUM months to years before Grant et al. arrive. The tracks are clearly too fresh to belong to adults - even with an accelerated growth rate, they WOULD NOT reach adulthood in 24 to 48 hours - and, again, eggs take months to incubate for large vertebrates. Even the pigeons that nest on my balcony incubate theirs for weeks - 18 to 19 days for a pigeon, 1.5 months for an ostrich, 2 months for an emu, 50 days for a cassowary, 9 to 10 weeks (2.5 months) for a crocodile. So yeah. Those raptor eggs were laid at minimum MONTHS ago. When the main 3 were in their pen. It should therefore surprise nobody that MULTIPLE adult raptors are FOR SURE running around on the island NOT INCLUDING the main 3, 1 day after the events of JP. In the BOOK, and the SNES game, there are entire underground raptor NESTING GROUNDS. The BOOK lists an EXPECTED raptor population of 8 - but a FOUND population of THIRTY SEVEN. The average clutch for most big birds is 1 to 6 eggs - so if you assume 4 breeding pairs (8 raptors), 29 offspring, suppose 3 surviving chicks per clutch, average, 12 chicks per breeding season for two years, possibly three, depending on survival rate. THIS by the way lines up with the nest in the film, which appears to show no fewer than 4 but no more than 5 eggs, with three trackway leading away from it and, in one egg, what appears to be *bones* of a chick that didn't make it. The fact that this chick is already reduced too a skeleton DOES reveal it's been at MINIMUM days since those ones hatched (maybe weeks), but the crisp outline of the footprints points to this having been on the lower end of the spectrum - maybe within the last week, and ants and compies just worked quickly (then again, no other tracks, so compies are unlikely to have fed). So, about 3 surviving chicks ran off from that clutch, which lines up with my proposed survival rate of about 3 per clutch, give or take one or two here or there -in the book, that extant population suggests breeding had been going on for years. I suspect the same is true in the film canon. The eggs ALSO reveal one other thing, by the way: the JP raptors are a "lay them and leave them" kind of parent. THere are no adult tracks around the nest - meaning they hadn't been there for a WHILE when they hatched - and more importantly, the eggshells are not crushed into many tiny pieces, such as you'd get with birds that stay IN the nest and are cared for after hatching until they can care for themselves. Instead you get these fairy neatly broken eggs with minimal signs of being rolled, stepped on and trampled by growing young. The footprints are also TINY - the same size as you'd get with one that hatched from an egg that size. This indicates they left the eggs to fend for themselves and the young upon hatching run off on their own almost immediately. It's worth noting that this CONFLICTS with the JPIII raptors, which DO guard their nests (though we don't know the level of parental care after hatching - perhaps none). Nerdy, I know, but I'm a paleontologist (as in, degreed and all, not the armchair kind) so I think about those things.

[@ladyofmars5161]

I love the raptor egg scene. It implies how bad the situation actually was behind all the smoke and mirrors of the tour. It was a horrifying in that moment realizing the park NEVER had control, and raptors were already breeding on the loose for MONTHS before the events at the park.

[@ladyofmars5161]

Raptors we see couldn’t have laid the eggs AND hatched them during the incident. It also doesnt make sense either because raptors would’ve guarded their nests. Alan and the kids wouldn’t have lived to make it up that tree if the parents were still nearby. I assumed that scene explained raptors got loose all the time and nests were never spotted due to Hammonds bad management or the raptors being transported in the beginning of the movie were being put back in their cage after escaping and laying those eggs.

[@ronaldwagner1343]

I hope you do a playthrough when it comes out.

[@stevenriggins8260]

In the book it’s explained that the raptors had been escaping the quarantine pin for months most likely and they’d go off to breed somewhere on the island so its possible those raptors that hatched from the eggs found by dr.grant and the kids could be more than a day old

[@JohnSmith-jj2yd]

I would imagine it would be like in the novel: when they were in the original Velociraptor paddock they bred unbeknownst to JP staff (prior to the creation of the raptor pen)

[@michaelbuick6995]

My guess is that the extra raptors are wild bred juveniles. Dangerous in numbers, but you can maybe see them off wit a flare or something. The raptor in the fridge is a grown adult that could function more like a boss.

[@tturi2]

there could be lots of reasons for grown up utah raptors, spares from site b, a few generations eating rodents etc

[@thomassizemore5814]

Where did you get the art in your thumbnail dude? Also keep up the content fun stuff!

[@westongarner-qo2ez]

33rd like!👍 Awesome video!🤘 Keep up the awesome work!🤘😎🤘

[@vintagestylevintagevalues]

There is a shot in the new game’s trailer where the protagonist is on a boat in the ocean trying to get away from a raptor, I’m betting on the Site B shipment theory

[@artc1980]

When Muldoon saw the footprints he states Nedry even knew not to mess with the raptor paddock and they are looking at the smaller enclosure, we all took it as the three had escaped but now knowing the raptors had a whole larger paddock, its extremely likely raptors have been breeding for years...

[@gabemamede5793]

It has been a couple years, but if i recall correctly the book had more than 3 raptors

[@l11l1venom1l11l]

I think it makes the most sense that there were raptors wild on the island the whole time without anyone knowing. They would have evaded humans at all costs, knowing that they're captors at best. There's also no reason to think there isn't local wildlife on the island that they would hunt for food. We hear it throughout the movie the whole time.

[@victorribeiro6772]

I sincerely hope that this is thought out and canon. The idea of it following the idea of the Novel raptors could work if there's also other species that are smaller and grew wild on the island, as long as there's a convincing explanation to why they never knew about it, or, another way that the underground idea could work is if they use the tunnel systems of season 1 of Camp Cretaceous, or an earlier version of it as a way to transport food around the island without going around the park's fences, that way you could feed these wild raptors long enough to this point in the timeline, but not enough to live on after this. You could even work with scenes showing their intelligence avoiding park workers and going by unnoticed, grabbing food and getting out of view, with maybe an occasional missing person right before the last boat leaves the dock during the movie sequence, having a search party of people who stayed behind to get eating in game

[@satmtca]

I think they’re from Isla Sorna and are going off the book where they snuck onto the boats when they were babies and got over here that way and may take a few other things from the book as well.

[@herrelladventures]

Quick take, just like in the book, maybe there were wild raptors already on island, unaccounted for- laying said eggs. They were already full grown. Just like the 90's McDonalds commercial, "Hey, it could happen!"

[@gabrieltorres3932]

Well, heres my goong theory. When Muldoon was doing his exposition on how they smart they are, and how ruthless The Big One was, its likely they had some raptors already escape, but then killed some of their own pack members to explain some of the missing raptors just chalked up to "Oh they were killed and cannibalized"

[@savage338win]

Looking at the tracks, the hatchlings are following a possible adult or sub adult. There could've been say like 2 left in the paddock and hide somewhere and JP workers chalked them up dead since they couldn't find them so they ended up breeding

[@Jurassiccanonking]

If I were making the game I would have used Herrerasaurus instead of raptors to have a new species and becuase they could fill a similar niche and are also canon.

[@user-oz4mu2iv8g]

I've always had my own idea about this... Grant and the kids find the eggs AFTER the storm but BEFORE the shutdown that disabled the raptor fences, meaning that adult raptors HAD to have been loose in the park already. I personally think that Hammond and Muldoon deliberately lied to Grant and the rest of them about the raptors killing each other to cover for the fact that they had escaped prior to the events of the film. After all, they wouldn't want to admit to the inspectors that the park's most dangerous attractions had successfully breached their enclosure and that their security measures weren't as air-tight as Hammond promised to his investors. My best guess is that Hammond and the other park workers assumed that the Lysine contingency would take effect on the escaped raptors and that, given enough time between the escape and the inspection, they have died outside of their enclosure without access to the lysine supplemented food. But life found a way.

[@Dinologan1015]

The ones that hatched from the wild eggs certainly couldn't have grown to adult in about a day, BUT I'd say there is a chance that just like the original Jurassic Park Novel, there could've been a rouge wild population.

[@AttheEdgeofChaos]

It could be a shot from an intro sequence before the game kicks off fully. Maybe the game starts before the film and they use the raptor round-up/relocation that kicks off the 93 film as a tutorial sequence? After all, we see exactly 3 raptors in the shot...

[@thatguyblue4811]

The raptors probably take a few years to get to full size but could reproduce before that. If they were kept in a different area they could have been breeding for a while and avoiding detection just like in the book. Also in the book there is a mention that the island had a huge rat problem that unexpected went away. That would be one source of food as well as cannibalism. They did eat a baby raptor in the book after all.

[@roccobreight3044]

In my opinion, I think the first theory may be possible. Maybe the original amount of raptors, before the events of the movie and the introduction to “The Big One”, may have secretly dug underneath the fences, while in their original paddock, without the park workers having suspicion, and begun breeding in the wild, though only doing so at night. Then again, I could be wrong and we’ll have to wait for the game to come out to get more context. Come to think of it, what I said does remind me of that old Jurassic Park comic run from the 90s.

[@mikesantagata]

These could be the same 3 Raptors from the first movie if the timeline of this game takes place during the middle of Jurassic Park. So perhaps this takes place while Grant and the kids are sleeping in the trees while everyone else is held up in the bunker.

[@clcg1800]

I say while reading the novel, they explained how there were wild raptors being born outside the holding pen. There were several adult raptors running around and even underground. Also, dr. Grant and Muldoon killed several raptors on their own. Maybe a few survived before they bombed the island the next day. Only my theory based off the novel

[@DanielRichards644]

Mauldun said the lead raptor killed ALL THE OTHER RAPTORS but the 2 in her pack, they also should have all the animals born in the labs tagged, so the only logical possibility would be prior to the head raptor from the first movie being introduced to the part some eggs would have had to been laid that she didn't get when she killed the other raptors. That would put them old enough to be full grown, but then you have to ask how no one spotted them for likely a year or more.

[@tuliptheanimatronicskunk1726]

Honestly I like the idea of the sorna raptors teaming up with the freezer raptor, it kinda feels like when the indominus convinced the raptors to team with her, it shows her intelligence in the fact she was able to convince four trained raptors to turn on people, the freezer raptor could do the same to the sorna raptors assuming they had similar interactions with people on sorna, it'll show the raptors intelligence if that makes sense

[@vincentwatkins6401]

I have a couple of theories. One, even though the game takes place one day after, I think that parts of it are going to run concurrently with the movie. Two, they are incorporating aspects of the novel into the game. The concept of the main character traveling down the river is proof of that. If that is the case, then there could be more raptors because there were definitely more raptors in the novel than there were in the movie. Or three, they incorporating aspects from both of the theories previously mentioned

[@doofenshmirtz1327]

Personally i think that rexy didn’t kill the three raptors in Jurassic park. I think that they were probably just knocked out like the atrociraptors in chaos theory. They weren’t killed like the stabbed one in the lost world or blown up like in Jurassic world.

[@rhcp8390]

If there was a feral population of raptors, I'm sure there were plenty of rats and seabirds as well as the occasional sea turtle for them to feast on.