Why This Road Slid off the Mountain

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@troymillay8691
@troymillay8691 Ай бұрын
Your statement at time stamp 10:11 is so true. I was born in 73 and know what it is like being without the entire knowledge of the world at my fingertips. All through the 80's If a kid wanted to know something you would go to you mom or dad and the answer from them most of the time was go to the library and look it up. It wasn't until adulthood I understood that my parents mostly my mom would tell me to look it up because they didn't know the answer either. We mostly stayed ignorant because everyone that is my age knows the difficulties of finding the answer to a question at a library. I tried to tell my kids that they just don't understand how amazing it is to have all that knowledge at one's fingertips. I am still amazed and humbled because I as well as many others could finally crack out of our egg of ignorance and never not know the answer to a question ever again. this device basically made libraries into homeless shelters, and I will never have to look through that evil card catalogue into the fiendish Dewey decimal system only to get the book that doesn't have the answer then to have to do it all over until I find the book that kind of has it.
@maggi666
@maggi666 2 ай бұрын
We used to drive down this in the 70s before it had to close. Now we walk down after we've hiked mam tor ridge and back. We've watched it yr after yr getting worse.
@Life-Outdoors-UK
@Life-Outdoors-UK 2 ай бұрын
I remember it shifting, rebuilt and falling again. Then finally closing. What you haven't taken into account is that a lot of the dark peak roads are shifting because the water doesn't drain away and saturates the ground. In the white peak, which is limestone, it's permeable and the rock mostly stable. This is why the Winnets Pass has remained open. When they built the A57 (Snake Pass) they knew that it was moving. These roads also predate tarmac and heavy traffic and the problem wasn't the same as it is now.
@paulspruce9046
@paulspruce9046 Ай бұрын
Absolutely nailed it
@DaveP668
@DaveP668 2 ай бұрын
Growing up just outside Sheffield Castleton, the "Blue John" caves and Mam Tor was a regular school visit destination for O and A level Geography study visits. IIRC it was and still is the largest active rotational slump feature in Europe. My parents remember driving along the road in the mid 60s during their trips to Derbyshire.
@peterrobertson8141
@peterrobertson8141 2 ай бұрын
Hi Paul, great to see you using your Featherlight 700 stove to make your brew at 5:33 I used mine for the first time on Tuesday to make myself a hot chocolate after a rather chilly flight in my open-cockpit microlight. So light and easy to use. I’m so glad I saw your review post of the prototype earlier in the year which got me involved in the Kickstarter Project to make it happen. 👍 😁
@tenminutetokyo2643
@tenminutetokyo2643 Ай бұрын
Looks like Rt. 1 - the Pacific Coast Hwy. in Northern CA. It used to be beautiful but now it’s sliding down into the Pacific.
@hellieb1277
@hellieb1277 2 ай бұрын
We have walked down that road several times. Really interesting to hear the history of it all.Thanks Paul 👍
@messnersminutes
@messnersminutes 2 ай бұрын
It feels weird walking along it.
@phil.clarke
@phil.clarke 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately the A57 'Snake Pass' is slipping now - diverting more traffic to A628 Woodhead Pass and making it an even slower journey across the Pennines when I am trying to escape Yorkshire and return to Elysium aka Lancashire!
@messnersminutes
@messnersminutes 2 ай бұрын
It’s been going on for a while now Phil. They keep patching up but again it’s not a real fix of the problem
@nevetsre7001
@nevetsre7001 2 ай бұрын
You can always get via Holmfirth and the A635, but it's a windy road over to top of Saddleworth moor
@IvanDP1967
@IvanDP1967 2 ай бұрын
@@nevetsre7001 I love that road 😁
@ruairidhalexander7631
@ruairidhalexander7631 2 ай бұрын
After 50 years of closure I'd have thought that road would be a lot more overgrown by vegetation by now.
@andrewwhitehead2002
@andrewwhitehead2002 2 ай бұрын
Nowt grows up there lad it's too close t't moon...
@tomhamer7838
@tomhamer7838 2 ай бұрын
I think they thought that once the land had already slid years ago then it was done with and wasn't going to move any more so they thought they were safe to build the road ..how wrong they were !
@albert2395
@albert2395 2 ай бұрын
Paul, I am commenting before looking at your post, but that is close to the Blue John Caverns, which I visited many, many, moons ago! Back in 1989, I believe?😊
@Nova2032-
@Nova2032- Ай бұрын
British gal Watching from Washington USA. Can I come home now? Hihi Absolutely lovely scenery.
@peterwaterall5913
@peterwaterall5913 2 ай бұрын
Hi paul I notice you have a new alcohol stove cone. Where did you get it from
@craighewison1738
@craighewison1738 2 ай бұрын
I’d like to know how all those funny shaped rocks got onto the top of kinder scout? Or were they always there and if so how did they end up these strange shapes?
@DaveP668
@DaveP668 2 ай бұрын
The stone is millstone grit which is a realtively hard type of sandstone and built up as bands of harder and softer layers millions of years ago. This stone was exposed during the last ice age and the ten thousand years of wind and weather since then has removed softer rocks, soil etc the stone is weathered causing the shapes you see now.
@chrisbull6244
@chrisbull6244 2 ай бұрын
Please find out about the dirt on top of mantor. You can see ditches that have been dug.
@inregionecaecorum
@inregionecaecorum 2 ай бұрын
I have a vague memory of driving on that road, but it must be a false memory because the road was closed before I learned to drive. I have not been there for a few years now, but I guess it is falling away a little bit more every year.
@MarkGray-vz7fm
@MarkGray-vz7fm 2 ай бұрын
Great video Paul as always. They all feel like you are talking to me directly, not just talking to a camera. Dry stone walls have always amazed me. We don't have them here in New Zealand. Given the height and length of some of them it must have taken the "wallers/builders" years to make. Do they need to dig a foundation first or just place the stones on top of the ground? Where did they get all the stones from? Were they just laying around or transported up the hills by horse and cart? Re your catch phrase "it doesn't get any better than this".....come to NZ and you'll see why it does. 😊 Keep up the great quality and content Paul. Cheers Mark
@MelanieRiley-lt2rl
@MelanieRiley-lt2rl 2 ай бұрын
Looks a bit like our road!
@James_and_Laura
@James_and_Laura 2 ай бұрын
I've been over there many times and always thought what a unique place the broken road is. My dad had a bad crash whilst cycling on it in the 60's, before it closed. My question is... What are the origins of Giddy Edge at Matlock and have you walked it? Interesting videos these Paul. Cheers, James
@songasport
@songasport 2 ай бұрын
I like these history videos you're doing. On a similar theme to this one, how about something on how Winnats Pass was formed or some of the strange rock formations.
@IvanDP1967
@IvanDP1967 2 ай бұрын
I know you love your wild camping and views from the tops of the peaks Paul, but what would you say is your favourite Peak District village, and why?
@ianrunningforpudding4915
@ianrunningforpudding4915 2 ай бұрын
Nice video. Walked and biked along there quite a few times. Just wondering, Was the winnats pass road built after this road collapsed or were they open and in use at the same time? Looks to me like Winnats would have always been an easier option anyway.
@12001markb
@12001markb 2 ай бұрын
I travelled down that road a few times around 1971.
@jamestitterton1627
@jamestitterton1627 2 ай бұрын
I've know the history of all this area. As I'm from town end as a kid. To have this on a good days bike ride away at 10 years old was magical. The days you told ya mam you were camping with friends. No questions ask. Guess about 18 mile if not more from our flat. Still always felt safe in the peaks.
@jamestitterton1627
@jamestitterton1627 2 ай бұрын
We call it the shivering mountain. But Mam Tor means Mother Rocky hill.
@dannimac777
@dannimac777 2 ай бұрын
They didn't call it Shivering Mountain for no reason.. Is the "knitting Lady" still there knitting socks for the Sherpas?
@Gordonafloat
@Gordonafloat 2 ай бұрын
A good one for you to do is, " Why does St Mary's Church in Chesterfield have a twisted and leaning spire? (known as the Crooked Spire)
@flippinheck68
@flippinheck68 2 ай бұрын
Unseasoned wood or a witch? I know which I prefer!
@Gordonafloat
@Gordonafloat 2 ай бұрын
Couldn't possibly say as Paul asked for questions to posed only. ​@@flippinheck68
@messnersminutes
@messnersminutes 2 ай бұрын
I actually know the reason for this 😂
@carolbarber7066
@carolbarber7066 2 ай бұрын
Maybe take your viewers on a trip up the crooked spire…not for the faint hearted though.
@nathankent8945
@nathankent8945 2 ай бұрын
A question, what's your favourite folktale related to the Peak District... I've not long been for a pint and the Nags Head in Castleton and read up on the couple that were murdered at Winnats Pass
@daviemaclean61
@daviemaclean61 2 ай бұрын
The Rest and Be Thankful in Argyll is the same. Every time they get close to fixing it another bit slides off down the hill.
@racerk99
@racerk99 Ай бұрын
I am American and I have family who lives in kitchen. Are there any sites near Hitchin I should explore?
@earlebacciochi9796
@earlebacciochi9796 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Paul, wondered why it was White and Dark Peaks 👍
@antmerritt
@antmerritt 2 ай бұрын
Different geology. Gritstone in the north and limestone in the south
@mickswanderings7500
@mickswanderings7500 2 ай бұрын
Snake Pass is going the same way.
@TheMatlockBiker
@TheMatlockBiker Ай бұрын
And a few others:- Beeley Bar (still closed) Snitterton Road (just about to re-open) Lea Road (re-opened a few months ago) White Tor Road (don’t think it’ll ever re-open)
@Jaqaroo
@Jaqaroo 2 ай бұрын
Great video Paul. I remember a school trip to Derbyshire to visit the Blue John Cavern. So, here's my question for you - What is Blue John? Why is it only found in that cavern in Derbyshire? and Why is it called Blue John?
@DaveP668
@DaveP668 2 ай бұрын
The rock is blue and yellow fluorite and named by the French as "bleu-jeune" - blue-yellow. This became corrupted by the English to Blue John.
@Jaqaroo
@Jaqaroo 2 ай бұрын
@@DaveP668 Thanks!
@jamestitterton1627
@jamestitterton1627 2 ай бұрын
One question, Paul. What was Carl walk for. I have looked for years with no definite answer.
@valium-fm7236
@valium-fm7236 2 ай бұрын
Here’s a Question for you Paul . whats the name of the pile of huge rocks on top of Higor Tor and did it serve any purpose in the past ? theres a big bowl on the top big enough to sit in; but theres little information about it. Fanx For Askin
@messnersminutes
@messnersminutes 2 ай бұрын
I’ll do some digging
@valium-fm7236
@valium-fm7236 2 ай бұрын
@@messnersminutes nice one cheers. ill buy you a pint of Hendos one day
@xjessukx
@xjessukx 2 ай бұрын
Broken road was used recently in a recently alien invasion series
@phil.clarke
@phil.clarke 2 ай бұрын
Great series on Apple TV - and made better by playing 'spot the location' for the UK based aspects of the story!
@messnersminutes
@messnersminutes 2 ай бұрын
Is it called alien invasion? Not seen it advertised
@xjessukx
@xjessukx 2 ай бұрын
@messnersminutes it was called "invasion." it was originally on apple TV
@phil.clarke
@phil.clarke 2 ай бұрын
@@xjessukx Yep - just search for 'Invasion Apple TV'. Series Three is being made however not sure there will be much Peak District location spotting.
@samhill3496
@samhill3496 2 ай бұрын
We have places like that in USA. We call one California. Seriously, never drink any water from around that area. Sure it is high in lead concentrations. Make your hair fall out and kill you. Road, High maintenance area. Roads can be built and be sustainable if done properly. Lots money. Got to find solid or build a floating road over top of it.
@stoatmcgroaty1586
@stoatmcgroaty1586 2 ай бұрын
Cars can't do it ... but I can tell you it's great fun on a mountainbike 😉
@eddyarundale1566
@eddyarundale1566 2 ай бұрын
👋🏼
@howardpotts5763
@howardpotts5763 2 ай бұрын
Think the gate is known as a squeaker
@johnd8538
@johnd8538 2 ай бұрын
Good way of making the algorithim love you these short films. You admitted the research is there for everybody and quickly gathered as we all know. Getting a bit click hungry with shallow content's not good in the long term.
@peterharrington8709
@peterharrington8709 2 ай бұрын
Not drivable, but rideable on a gravel or mountain bike. The Broken Road is a 'must do' climb... and a real tourist attraction. I mean, tumbledown castles and abbeys are just ten a penny... ruined roads... not SO much!
@keithchambers-oq6nb
@keithchambers-oq6nb 2 ай бұрын
The Romans knew how to build roads…😂
@medievalladybird394
@medievalladybird394 2 ай бұрын
And more importantly where, I suppose. 😅
@chrismason-u5y
@chrismason-u5y 2 ай бұрын
Hi Paul sleeping bag vid?
@messnersminutes
@messnersminutes 2 ай бұрын
not on this channel Chris
@chrismason-u5y
@chrismason-u5y 2 ай бұрын
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