Why Turkey is Transforming Istanbul Into an Island

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[@dren4805]

EA: To get the full Black Sea experience you have to buy the Istanbul canal DLC

[@mckone9]

:d

[@afdalridwan3813]

@@mckone9 and extra regime tax for that Only 999.9$

[@Feroov]

lmao this made my day

[@miguelvina7188]

😂😂😂😂

[@kebabseverim3364]

As a representative of Turkish people, we don't want canal. Dictator Erdogan is oppressing us

[@yusuftamer4004]

I am from Turkey and i am learning why we are transforming Istanbul into a island from a foreign KZbin channel

[@culwe5910]

@sülüman yes we all are

[@stomic50]

Love it how his son in law has already land where the new canal will be made... Corrupt politicians always do that, transfer money from foreign countries (e g . US paying them to get to Black sea) , into their own pockets.

[@obi-wan1211]

I’m am too

[@Poppinslime]

Much love to turkey

[@ceyhunrize9582]

Same here

[@nekto4658]

When you said that Suez is 200km long, you counted the Red sea, which isn't artificial. The Suez is at least 2 times smaller (but still quite big)

[@t3rtleking796]

Its 193.3km long, I guess he just rounded

[@oversmart77]

we appreciate the informative video about the Istanbul canal project. However, we noticed a few mistakes that we would like to point out. Firstly, the Suez Canal is not actually 200km long but is still quite significant. Secondly, we want to clarify that Istanbul is not the capital of Turkey, it's actually Ankara. Lastly, it's important to consider the potential environmental risks that could come with such a large-scale excavation project. Despite these points, we are grateful for the opportunity to learn more about Istanbul's future development plans. Thank you RealLifeLore!

[@nisezuk]

They didn't actually say that it's the capital of Turkey, they said that it was capital of 3 great empires, the romans, byzantium and the ottoman empire.

[@chandleryoung9515]

They said that Istanbul was the capital of 3 great empires as in empires that existed before Turkey, not that it is the capital of Turkey. They also explained a lot about the potential detrimental effects of such a large scale excavation

[@gcburns4]

I did a double take on his Suez measurement because the graphic didn't add up, but it was 162 km during creation and now 193 km. I'm more interested in why the Bosporus Straight has such significant traffic problems, it's massive. The Suez is tiny. Fun: You can see several submarines underwater on Google Earth near the mouth of the straight to the Black Sea

[@At0ThEb]

Boats: Zzz this takes so long Turkey: you want bosphorus premium subscription?

[@MegaHunter316]

😂😂😂 best comment of the day

[@Dbk1907]

Skip add. 🤣

[@harshjain3122]

Lmaoooo

[@trollflix]

oh, you made ma day 🔥🙏 :D hehe

[@MuhammedAYDIN]

oh NO!!

[@seifer918]

Turkey: let's build a canal to avoid the city center. also Turkey: Let's develop the area next to the canal to make a new city center.

[@cocacola4blood365]

Like ending the Uranus joke by changing its name to Urectum.

[@northofnashira2575]

I thought it was obvious. They'd rather blow up new buildings that have no attraction for tourists than blow up the buildings that tourists want to come and see. The people that live there are of no concern.

[@sammyttheg412]

Yeah but man instanbul is actually closer to 18 million years

[@mnd7381]

@@sammyttheg412 wtf?

[@mnd7381]

@@northofnashira2575 common people are always NPCs for governments

[@FerrelFrequency]

THIS, is probably one of the most interesting channels I’ve EVER stumbled across! I CAN’T go to SLEEP! 😂 Thank you.

[@heyitsvos]

It's 2023 now and i haven't seen any progress yet, and i drive all 3 highways a couple times a week. I know you were just reporting the info you had at the time, so this isn't a complaint, just an update/observation.

[@Rannument]

Turkish goverment made so many promises for 2023 just to win the election again.

[@LeventK]

"Using Istanbul canal is like using KZbin premium" Comparison of the year.

[@herrleser6337]

yeah and noone uses it

[@thekraken1173]

Its more like a project to arabify the İstanbul and launder money.

[@cittheuhtheuh]

Wait,why're u commenting on a non-chess vid?I only see u in chess vids of gothamchess,etc..

[@christinearmington]

Worth it.

[@cappyjones]

@@herrleser6337 I'm watching this video on KZbin Premium! No commercials and unlimited music is worth it. 👍

[@cooley987]

Once the canal is completely built, an evergreen ship will be stuck on the bosphorus thus everyone would have to go through the new canal. Chaching

[@TuAFFalcon]

lol

[@snakeplissken1933]

You need at least 3 Evergiven class ships side by side to block it even in the narrowest point.

[@christianguzman4688]

Dont temp them.

[@cooley987]

Guys, this is a joke 🤣

[@cooley987]

Guys, this is a joke 🤣

[@exosproudmamabear558]

I think it could work since wait times are really important in shipping bussiness. If the cargo gets to late the loss could be expenontial sometimes so people decide to give toll money instead of waiting.Although this needs to be measured like how long the wait will be,how much the loss will be and to make a profit how much you need to put toll money. But again this is just a way Erdodan to get his pockets full. Neutrality is the most important thing in my opinion also transport over the bridges is just a nightmare for the citizens. So it comepletely expected to be both military and citizens oppose the idea.

[@emreyavuz4706]

Very detailed well explained video thx. 1 addition, the damage of canal on the environment will be catastrophic too.

[@downo]

Environment, economy, culture, political agenda... this project has far too many risks if you ask me.

[@bzrt317]

Just to clarify: Istanbul is not the Capital Of Turkey, it's actually Ankara.

[@rovari524]

none of that is true its constantinople

[@DavideKuras]

@@rovari524 nova roma*

[@thegamerkhan]

@@rovari524 *miklagard

[@nezirefeerden7344]

@@rovari524 in the dreams of greeks

[@oyunoyunoyoo1851]

@@rovari524 nah bro ı am turkish and one one sayin istanbul to contantinapole its just to long and ıf you say consantinapole in street turkish peoples beat you up

[@egebaranbayram5045]

As a resident in İstanbul, none of my neighbors want this project. Everyone thinks that turkey should focus on other problems such as unemployment and high inflation rates. This project is just a way to launder Erdogan and his friends' dirty money.

[@leadharsh0616]

This should generate a lot of employment.

[@tk5gqj514]

As a Turk all my friends and my familys frieds also disagree with it too.

[@thekraken1173]

@@leadharsh0616 No. That is a lie. They are building this to launder money. Also all the houses and properties near the canal are sold to Qataris.

[@realShikha885]

Turk nationalist: BuT ThIS wIlL bOosT cOnStRuCtIoN sEctoR

[@AndrewGeierMelons]

Actually, with counter-cyclical fiscal policy, infrastructure projects are ideal for helping with unemployment

[@damonbradley1164]

I'm pretty sure the second after you mentioned why nobody gets youtube premium the immediately hit me with an ad lol. Thanks for the great content!

[@RockYourrMind]

I don't understand why you're telling Danube River is a major asset for trade. The Danube is very big, but cargo container ships can't navigate on it... only few trade on the river with some small ships.

[@markpiersall9815]

Barges move grain. Lot of wheat and sunflowers.

[@RGDunphy]

Agreed. I can see the canal connecting the Rhine and the Danube from my bedroom window. There are not a lot of big barges going up and down there. Maybe one medium-sized one every half hour. Not a lot in terms of global trade.

[@platypusfrenzy]

Lots of nonsense in this video. No major Russian ports (not even Murmansk) ever close due to ice, and most Russian oil exports by sea actually do go from the Baltic ports of Ust-Luga and Primorsk, not Novorossiysk.

[@beybladeguru101]

"...was the capital of three great empires, the Romans, the Byzantines..." *Two spidermen pointing at each other*

[@dotmashrc]

byzantine was a legacy of ancient greece. the romans were.... well, the romans.

[@Exantrn]

@@dotmashrc The Byzantine Empire was literally the Eastern Roman Empire, not some ancient Greek remnant. 18th century academics didn’t like calling it the Roman Empire because it offended their enlightened sensibilities, so they made up the term Byzantine Empire. The people living there called themselves Roman and referred to the state as the Land of the Romans. Even long after the Ottomans conquered Constantinople, the area was referred to as the Rûm Millet or Roman Nation.

[@catalyst772]

Not to mention they still had a Roman senate, the roman Ranks, institutions, education system etc

[@ammarhaziq919]

Calling eastern Roman empire as Byzantine empire is like calling France as Lutetian republic (France's capital Paris old name), and calling China as people republic of Fanyang (China's capital Beijing old name), thats sound ridiculous right ? just because some holy german confederation (HRE) claim themselves as romans when they really not, it doesnt erase the real history of eastern roman empire.

[@aokiaoki4238]

@@dotmashrc Romans were the legacy of Ancient Greece too.

[@WorldWideMusic2000]

"Guns are not allowed, so we only have missiles" this so American lol

[@GabrielHellborne]

PSYCH! The missiles carry guns!

[@nothuman3083]

Turkey argued it, my God the silent genocide we don't talk about a 100 years ago, political corruption but a factional democracy, oil hungry, a failed political coup backed by foreign powers. It's like I never even left.

[@bevoburn]

'Murca fuck yeah!

[@froobs2534]

I love my country enough to know politicians are raping her 😭

[@hunterflowerson4460]

@@GabrielHellborne Murcia

[@freedomthroughspirit]

Fascinating. Thank you!

[@jakurdadov6375]

I laughed out loud at the assertion that cargo ships from Shanghai ever transit the Rhine-Main-Danube Canal to go to Rotterdam. Besides the excruciatingly slow speed of the Canal versus the Mediterranean, the maximum beam possible in the Canal is only 38 feet versus the typical cargo ship which is more than 100 feet wide - usually much more.

[@NeovanGoth]

Yeah that was rather ridiculous and one of the many errors in this video.

[@tonycook1624]

@@NeovanGoth Yeah American cant do geography

[@LNcello]

Haha, same here. Makes me wonder what else is off the mark.

[@entropybear5847]

RLL is a fun channel, but I wouldn't cite him in school papers let's just say.

[@SeeLasSee]

Indeed. The waves produced would also massively erode the river banks. Major civil engineering would be required.

[@Mo95793]

Missiles are not technically guns has to be one of the greatest arguments ever used😂😂😂

[@Lawrance_of_Albania]

well, if soviets havent be so damn agresive towards everyone, turkey woudnt have to argue such stupidity

[@HMNNO]

Well Soviet’s rocking in the strait is another loophole they did lol

[@ohhah1255]

@@Lawrance_of_Albania well, if america didn't invade the soviet union, then invade majority of the countries in Europe, invade majority of Germany despite soviets being the liberator, subject europe through Marshall plan propaganda to eventually remove the large opinion of the Soviets as the primary liberator in the second world war, if the US didn't suppress the communist movements in turkey, soviet union wouldn't be aggressive and turkey wouldn't have someone as stupid as Erdogan and a situation where their lira is inflating, and usually that ends in a coup for turkey, LOL

[@user-cl7pm7zm3x]

@@Lawrance_of_Albania so we need to send our misles into mexico bay to stop damn american agression to everyone

[@Lawrance_of_Albania]

@@user-cl7pm7zm3x It isnt even that i dislike russia, i live in orthtodox nation and russia is greatest protector of orthodoxy. But such a stupid move is what i call "shoting yourself in a foot" That communist moron stalin pushed turkey in NATO, and thats faaar from his only mistake

[@milseq]

A 100-year-old treaty that sucks? Let's make an island.

[@CBielski87]

if the americans are payin for it

[@Sheridantank]

It doesn't make sense to mess with it. As an American, the only reason there should be American war ships in the Black Sea is if there's a war going on. If there's a war going on, does the treaty really matter?

[@isi6402]

If Americans again Not interfere-

[@milseq]

@@Sheridantank I reckon there are no reasons for American war ships to be in the Black Sea even if there is a war there. It's halfway across the bloody world. But you know, how else are they supposed to provoke Russia?

[@buffgarfield3231]

@@milseq Honestly the Russians have a right to be angry if there are American war ships in the black sea. America likes to stick it's fingers in everyone else's pie.

[@joer9276]

Feeling a little lucky to have driven USS KAUFFMAN FFG-59 through in 1999. It was a little nerve racking with the amount of traffic; the 13 minute point is a good representation.

[@kennielsen6909]

Companies will be very happy to use the new canal. Even now there are sometimes several day wait times to cross. Ship operators lose money sitting around. This new Canal will be very helpful for everyone.

[@Number6ManUrinates]

Looks like tons of tourists will go here because its an "island"

[@jimmyb7479]

Lol

[@XD2021]

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[@abiez4018]

@@GoinGreninja they're bot man just report if you see any of these comment next time,i can guarantee you will find it a lot

[@tatrankaska2305]

And maybe future battlefield, again. I already see that travel companies ads: Visit Istambul! Centre od culture and wars since Romans.

[@GoinGreninja]

@@abiez4018 True. But the few times I've reported them, they didn't go away. Hopefully they go away after I report them now.

[@Seif_Morsi]

At 8:50, the line that shows the size of the suez canal is wrong because the canal is only the upper part which was dug through the land and not the whole passage. I think the 200 km is right though but I'm not sure about that

[@fhc3240]

"WE DON'T CARE"

[@Seif_Morsi]

@@fhc3240 I do and I'm sure some poeple care about receiving correct info

[@CarFreeSegnitz]

According to Wikipedia the Suez Canal is 193.3 km long. You are correct that the graphic incorrectly puts the Red Sea as part of the length of the Suez Canal. The Suez Canal is properly measured from its entrance at the northern tip of the Red Sea to its exit on the Mediterranean.

[@northofnashira2575]

And the video does the same thing with the Istanbul canal. The beginning point in the south is a natural inlet, just like the Suez.

[@Seif_Morsi]

@@fhc3240 looks like people do actually care

[@jayjaynouma]

Great video, thank you.

[@izaactheberean6860]

Please do an updated video.

[@Siphamandla.Ngcobo]

Hearing that Istanbul's economy alone is larger than that of my country's, South Africa, makes me wanna cry.

[@tilkilit]

If it'll make you feel better, most of turkish economy goes to corrupt government and citizens do not get profit from it. Rich people get richer while poor people get even more poor each day. Turkey itself is rich compared to most other countries, but turkish people are not.

[@Siphamandla.Ngcobo]

@@tilkilit thanks for the attempt to console me, but the same thing happens here in SA too. Politicians chiefly enriching themselves.

[@tilkilit]

@@Siphamandla.Ngcobo Yeah i've heard of that most african countries have corrupt governments. We both suffer from the same things i guess lol

[@Siphamandla.Ngcobo]

@@tilkilit for instance, the SA president fired the defence minister last week. This week, that same person is formally nominated as Parliament Speaker, by the same party the president heads. There are little to no repercussions for politicians being incompetent or corrupt in SA, so it seems.

[@hkl2007]

@@Siphamandla.Ngcobo Do you think South Africa will balkanize along ethnic lines in the future? As an outsider, it sadly seems like a very unstable country with alot of ethnic tension.

[@Acke.]

"Why Turkey is Transforming Istanbul Into an Island" -So they can call it Islandbul

[@kayacenk4164]

i hate this canal thing but if they do i will own 3 house in EU island.

[@ThatOneMalaysianGuy]

🥁

[@fxteha4923]

that is so stupid but I fucking love it

[@suryamukherji4943]

that's Constantinople

[@appleslover]

@@suryamukherji4943 no it's islambul

[@haruner_]

With the construction of the canal, the Treaty of Montreux is not bypassed. Montreux also includes the Dardanelles Strait. It seems impossible to build a canal for Dardanelles.

[@keremimamoglu9552]

As a Turk, on top of the comments made by my friends, Turkey has 3 bridges on the straits, not 4. In addition, Turkey has a bridge connecting Bursa and Gebze and a newly opened bridge in Çanakkale

[@alpers.2123]

Çanakkale is a strait as well, so 4

[@keremimamoglu9552]

@@alpers.2123 olm istanbul boğazında 3 köprü var yaw

[@megujoestar]

@@keremimamoglu9552 olm adam ileri görüşlü 4.yapar bunlar diye demiştir

[@Frankie1603]

I thought that 4th one showed in the video is Eurasian tunnel (location wise seems correct)

[@anlmermutluoglu6229]

​@@megujoestar 4. Kopruyu yab mak farz -fatih sultan mehmet

[@TXnine7nine]

9:17 “upon arriving, ships have to usually wait an average of 14 hours” Ports on western coast of North America: “Hold my beer”

[@willywonka3050]

It's like an Ever Given jam every single day here at LA/Long Beach

[@mrvk39]

NOPE! Dolphins are like "hold my beer" - you have to, they have only flippers

[@Mike-mc3ty]

“The Romans and the Byzantines” the Romans would like to have a word with you

[@YTEdy]

LOL.

[@nhandinh7404]

*The Eastern Romans would like a word with you

[@nunyabiznes33]

Justinian: "What is this you are talking about?"

[@d4vidcoop3r83]

@@nhandinh7404 IKR

[@m.shadows7119]

they still live In Istanbul it was there idea

[@7msjster]

totally educational! bravo!

[@zachrodan7543]

9:17 cute how those dolphins are playing in front of that gargantuan ship. it really gives a sense of scale

[@leepic9091]

As someone from Turkey that also lived in Istanbul for 15 years, I can say that basically no one supports this project anywhere in our country. Especially after the mucilage breakout in the Marmara Sea this year. I hope this problem gets more international recognition and can be canceled. We already have a lot of problems and many don't want to add ecological collapse of the Marmara Sea to that list.

[@TheZachary86]

Forget it. No one has even heard of it until now. And frankly from the reactions here, hardly anyone cares whether it gets built. If you want more attention, go stage a huge protest and show the world when people gets arrested and killed. That’s how you get attention

[@dexon777]

@@TheZachary86 You dont jack about turkey

[@atakinpowa]

@@TheZachary86 Erdoğan Controls The Media. The people that opposed Erdoğan's rule had made an march similar to salt March made in India with Ghandi, but even bigger, no one cared or heard about it. Even me living in Turkey didn't even hear it and learned about it years later after it happened. Edit: Sorry not weeks, YEARS.

[@raptorfromthe6ix833]

protest and make everyone aware

[@atakinpowa]

@@raptorfromthe6ix833 We are already doing that. Nobody cares or even knows about it because Erdoğan Controls The Media, like the Bosporus University Events. Wich all the students were suddenly called "Terrorists" because the media under Erdoğan said so.

[@RaptoHs]

As a Turkish citizen, I always taught that Montreux needed to get renewed and modernized. It would have saved a lot of effort and cleaned up the problems of the strait. The canale idea itself is very cool but on paper has a lot more negatives than pozitives. Hopefully, the project will stop. And right now Istanbul and the Eagen coastlines are facing a sea pollution problem as well. Adding more waste to that won't be any smarter I reckon.

[@Borg231]

Ok both super powers were stupid in this case 😑. Both Broke turkeys s rules which was uncool. Nearly provoked a neutral nation which was uncool. And abused a potential Allies for Idiocracy

[@TheMattsem]

Don't worry since when president erdogan religion mindset ruined Turkish economy

[@afs8908]

I think they should address those water pollution and shortage issues before they think any further.

[@WisdomLearner]

@@Borg231 I you listened well , they both did not broke any rules they subverted. As both did not sign UNCLOS for geographic reasons, self determination is a pretty word in diplomacy you see you can't force another to sign a largely voluntary treaty. As for the other Treaty it did not describe missile ships, I know both countries Turkey and US, you can include Russia as well if you want subscribe to a Roman law, of "what the law does not include it excludes".

[@randomperson6988]

I don’t think Montreux needed renewing. There would have to be a new convention to renegotiate the terms

[@gameoflife4190]

The water bridge that literally separates Europe from Asia. This fact is mind boggling I live for this stuff. Who’s plan was it.

[@nicolasi1844]

@@M3E92V8 South Korea didn't exist in 1915 and Euro became a currency in 1999/2002. The 1915 Çanakkale Bridge was built from 2017 to 2022. The 1915 in the name honours an Ottoman naval victory against the navies of the UK and France during WW I.

[@Fleeinhorse]

U S A

[@kindlytoxic1472]

are you unaware of the ural mountains

[@KILLERGAMER-pf9fm]

russua also connects asia and europe

[@KILLERGAMER-pf9fm]

this canal has existed for like ever... back to before the byzantine empire

[@michaellelacheur5372]

I be nerding out with these vids sometimes

[@beatlemaniac]

Turkey: "In terms of money, we have no money."

[@comradecrimson6186]

They do but it's not enough in terms of their everything else

[@PROUD-COUNTRY]

Turkish lira is only for 🚾 paper..

[@stantorren4400]

@@PROUD-COUNTRY would be funny joke if you weren’t from Greece, a country that almost destroyed the Euro during the 2008 finanical crisis because of Greek government being too inpatient to actually do things legitimately to use the Euro

[@PROUD-COUNTRY]

@@stantorren4400 and h win of this ? Germany 👌

[@kefalonitis5698]

@@stantorren4400 His point still holds true

[@alsenar2]

Just to clarify: No big cargo ship is able to travel through the Danube. Only a "barge" can travel on the Danube. We call them "Binnenschiffe" in german.

[@desisabor91]

Exactly

[@ardagurbuz6924]

Another correction is that the convention they talk about also affects the Dardanelles. So Turkey needs to build another canal there if it wants to bypass the Montreaux Convention.

[@muratakburakma]

@@ardagurbuz6924 but dardanelles only prevent the war ships part of the montreaux to be bypassed right. Turkey still can charge for the new canal?

[@ardagurbuz6924]

@@muratakburakma Probably, yeah.

[@mehmetcansaltan4914]

There's always a word for something in German

[@lydiangold]

Thank you for the video. A number of people indicated quite a few errors. Let me add that the mosque at 0:38 is not an Ottoman Mosque, it is in Iran (Agha Bozorg Mosque). Also, the Montreux Convention applies to Dardanelles as well.

[@reyemir]

9:12 look at the dolphins in front of the ship. racing :)

[@JoelJames2]

“We’re gonna build a canal to handle dangerous cargo, and then building housing and the worlds largest airport around it” Genius move guys

[@gokhan4461]

Yeah, but think about this... almost *everyone* in the government will financially benefit from the canal, so they don't care lol

[@mertyavuzindiedevelopment7751]

They do this because corrupts close to the government bought territory from the cannal İstanbul area when it was cheaper with hopes of government building the cannal.

[@lilsultan9206]

The Airport is already built and is operating, just not 100%. And in case of a disaster such as an explosion it is less dramatic if newly build residental and commercial areas get destroyed rather than the historical and more inhabited city center.

[@jskratnyarlathotep8411]

maybe that argument means nothing, it's there just for public support

[@maythesciencebewithyou]

The land around the proposed canal belongs to Erdogan and his cronies. The canal isn't for transporting cargo, it's so that the future houses there have a canal that goes next to them, so they become worth more.

[@AhmetwithaT]

The canal isn't the point of this project. Making money for construction companies is the whole point of this project. I wouldn't be at all surprised if in ten years there are several bridges to nowhere but no canal.

[@Mr-Money01]

So having a canal is just a plus?

[@user-vo6ec7hk4u]

I do not know that much, but i heard that it is an old dream for the turks, and it is finally getting done 🤷‍♂️

[@AhmetwithaT]

@@Mr-Money01 ​ It would be a plus, but not us. Not to regular citizens. This and all other "Build-operate-transfer " projects made under AKP government have been primarily about shoveling public money into few private companies (all Erdoğan's allies). No project made in this arrangement provides any profit to the public coffers, on the contrary, they get payments each and every month from the treasury. One example to this is the Avrasya Tunnel connecting two sides of İstanbul from the south. It's a good tunnel except it costs too much to use and costs way way more if we don't use it. Because the deal is there needs to be certain quota met each month and treasury covers the difference if that quota is not met. Since its opening in 2016, that quota of use was met only one month. That's it. And this is one of the better projects made under this arrangement, there are far worse ones out there.

[@jacobwwarner]

@@Mr-Money01The idea is that it is the reason used to convince and gather majority support for the expensive project. The construction companies and real estate owners will likely be the first to benefit and made loads of money from whether or not it is actually completed.

[@AhmetwithaT]

​ @مالك القطيف Having $25.000 per capita was the dream for the Turks yet here we are, wasting money on useless projects instead of helping the 24 million people living in poverty in our country.

[@jodo7814]

They’re making a giant transmutation circle. Where’s Ed and Al when you need them!

[@Mecrobb]

I love youtube premium and have been a loyal and happy customer for nearly 5 years now. being able to play youtube videos while my phone screen if off is invaluable and I cannot stand ads. The only time my sub has lapsed was when my card expired.

[@hamzamenekse1868]

The Istanbul earthquake will definitely happen one day, when it happens, Turkey will go back at least 5 years. Most of the Turkish politicians still do nothing about it, and they still think the most important and priority issue of Istanbul is the making the canal. Just consider, 15 million people live in Istanbul and most of the houses are very rotten. And we already know what happened in the Izmir earthquake.

[@vanhoot2234]

had to look it up... yeah that could happen again there.. and would be NOT good.

[@afinoxi]

5 years is a very modest number to be honest. More like 15.

[@Chris_at_Home]

Many of the houses in that part of the world are old and masonry doesn’t have any steel reinforcement like rebar. I was around that area in the 1970s and remember seeing building being built where they put straw in the concrete, what’s with that?

[@hamzamenekse1868]

@@afinoxi I said 'at least'

[@hamzamenekse1868]

​@@Chris_at_Home Even today, most of the houses built in Istanbul are still too weak for earthquakes around 6.1 - 8.2. And keep in mind this, although only 4.5 million people lived in the earthquake in Izmir, the poor infrastructure of the earthquake left many people homeless.

[@CheesiusCaesar69]

After all of this remember that Istanbul isn't even turkey's capital.

[@poyrazaliguner2554]

It was used to be the capital in the Golden Age of the Ottoman Empire, but never meant to be after that, especially in late 19th and early 20th centuries. As it was tactically useless since there was such little land protection left against European forces like Balkan countries. Original: It was used to, but never meant to be. As it was tactically useless.

[@44theshadow49]

@@poyrazaliguner2554 what are you on about.

[@Mimi-mq2wj]

Tokyo belongs to France

[@Basauri48970]

@@44theshadow49 Given the whole sentence, I'm quite certain they meant "it used to be" (if this is the bit that threw you off). Not everyone on the Internet is a native English speaker.

[@44theshadow49]

@@Basauri48970 I'm more criticizing the assertion that Constantinople, one of the most historically significant cities in the past 2 millennia, lauded as "The City of the World's Desire," and was famously difficult to siege, is "tactically useless." Its so backwards I thought he was trolling, but the tone of the rest of his comment leads me to think he's serious.

[@mahmut842]

Turkey: Guns are not allowed. US: okay but we have only missiles? Turkey: okay you can pass. 🤣🤣

[@monikamyszko5512]

WOW..... I knew only some information about the strait, but this is sick man, god damn...

[@mfauz96]

Turkey: “I don’t want to use this canal, I’m making my own” China: I don’t want to use your canal, I’m making my own”

[@kebabseverim3364]

As a representative of Turkish people, we don't want canal. Dictator Erdogan is oppressing us

[@mrwhitenoise376]

@@kebabseverim3364 lol to the west your a Turk , no one likes you ! Doesn’t matter if you pretend to be western or not.

[@Inanchi05]

@@mrwhitenoise376 ah yes keep living in your small world where everyone is Serbian Greek Romanian and Armenian

[@gecegece1552]

@@kebabseverim3364 dont mind these people they probably support pkk or feto orgnanisation. sorry to say that but there are so many people inside Turkey that dont want Turkeys success

[@fullodakpozitiflik5418]

@@mrwhitenoise376 I have good life and family. I don't need strangers like me lol n**i kid

[@mrvk39]

9:17 - Dolphins abide by no conventions, they just swim wherever they feel like it!

[@rajeshwarchinna]

Lol exactly

[@KING-ef2wm]

Good eye

[@Mr.Verethron]

maybe thats why in Red Alert 2 the Allies had military dolphins

[@arelee7974]

Dolphin get freepass to any sea ...no patrol will stop them....

[@Amoha8662]

9:17 - dolphins oh yeah

[@worldview730]

Great lesson teacher

[@KENKENNIFF]

Having residential developments alongside the canal works as a human shield. A plot to sabotage the canal might develop leaks if large numbers of lives might be lost.

[@carlosrincon6017]

So, let's build a new canal to divert dangerous volatile cargo away from the heavily populated Istanbul center. Also let's heavily populate the new canal's banks! 👌

[@BomboloaCat]

Seems legit.

[@blackout5758]

And cash

[@fatihsahin5255]

Yes, But! The Bosphorus is a natural waterway, you cant change its geography. With the new canal, you can take the necessary actions and preparations to avoid possible dangerous accidents as much as technologically possible. Not that I support but if this is the topic, the canal would be of course much safer. The Bosphorus is a difficult waterway to navigate with many big accidents in history. One recently, a ship crashing into a $25m historical mansion.

[@maythesciencebewithyou]

The actual goal was to make rich investors who bought land along the proposed canal richer.

[@fatihsahin5255]

@@maythesciencebewithyou Thats for sure one of the ideas. But cost of the project is basically much higher compared to the investors. I think there are few goals here; - protecting bosphorus straight - finding new investment areas in Istanbul - global attraction - political stand against Montro - of course economical benefits - increase power against black sea countries

[@melihyusatoprak8802]

13:38 Berat Albayrak is no longer minister of finance. He resigned at 9th november of 2020.

[@marlena7965]

yeah he is missing

[@trashposs3849]

@@marlena7965 With all of the money he stole

[@marlena7965]

@@trashposs3849 after all the help he did for his kayınpeder

[@nitrogen1881]

Abi bu kanalı izleyen Türk buldum ya artık rahat ölebilirim

[@glionn]

@@nitrogen1881 İzleyen var kardeşim ama biz bayrak atmıyoruz her yere :)

[@bredsheeran2897]

Can you make a video about the logistics of the Suez Canal

[@jakubctvrtnicek6079]

The information given at 2.40 time stamp that shippes from asia are passing Bosphorus and are traveling via Danube inland is not true. It maybe technically possible to transload containers from ocean vessel at Black see to river vessels on Danube, it is definitely not the case that the ocean vessel would sail into and through the Danube inland waterway. Also the transload of containers onto the river is very low volume. If container is reaching a port in anywhere in Europe, it likely goes by rail further to final destination. But otherwise its very good educative video!!

[@Bigfoot_With_Internet_Access]

Sometimes in life you've just got to transform a city into an island

[@just_a_turtle_chad]

Cool 😎

[@mjbowman2004]

Maybe they could do that with California

[@crowjan]

What Saudi Arabia did with Qatar lol

[@samuraiboi2735]

@@mjbowman2004 meh probably would make itself a country of its own later on

[@thegamerkhan]

@@crowjan not yet. They have only hinted at it.

[@ramen_9588]

Turkey: Imma turn instanbul into an island. Everyone: *you weren't supposed to do that.*

[@XD2021]

°ᶜᵃⁿ ⁱ ᵍᵉᵗ ¹ ˢᵘᵇ ᵇᵉᶠᵒʳᵉ ᵗᵒᵐᵒʳʳᵒʷ?😢=.,=

[@arhanuzun7867]

in turkey we are trying to say that to Erduvan but he is not look like listening

[@LeventK]

@@arhanuzun7867 I confirm

[@ferit4829]

Turks: you weren’t supposed to do that.

[@thekraken1173]

@@arhanuzun7867 I confirm

[@merlindavilla797]

Istanbul..a beautiful City...biblical and historial..the Bhosphorous River..so beautiful I was there..in Ephesus...

[@4dr0]

There's only very little traffic on the canal between Rhine and Danube. It's also way too small for ocean going ships.

[@theconscientiousperfecter]

9:12 Happy Dolphins playing and jumping in front of a massive cargo ship.

[@sarlaz3407]

Those are top secret Russian Anti-Submarine sweep and destroyer agents and they are not having fun, they are protecting the motherland!

[@joaobastos6435]

thanks i didn't see them!

[@akildoktoru]

Thanks! You have perfected even your attention to detail.

[@Meltedbutta7]

Are you offended?

[@gaeborg]

@@sarlaz3407 ayo man nice catch there

[@SereglothIV]

KZbinrs: I want to monetize my channel! Istanbul: I want to monetize my channel too!

[@Schumanized]

🤣

[@alveolate]

google: just sign this agreement UNCLOS: just sign this treaty

[@ASLUHLUHCE]

Nice

[@ordinaryvalley]

Istanbul is gorgeous and a dazzling city indeed.

[@DByers-ci5kr]

This is an excellent article. Some clarifications: The Roman emperor Constantine moved the capital from Rome to Byzantium in 330 CE & it was officially designated as Nova Roma (New Rome). The Empire was never referred to as the Byzantine until centuries later to distinguish the eastern from western factions. Kanal Istanbul was first suggested in the 16th century, 300 years after the Ottomans captured the city & renamed it again. The idea was renewed in the 1980s due in large part to the congestion described here & a number of incidents. Until several bridges were built across the Bosphorus, all traffic between the two sides was via ferry making for a dangerous cross-traffic pattern adjacent to the most crowded parts of the city. US warships have entered the Black Sea although as Alpex noted the largest, CVNs, may not enter due to weight restrictions to the other side of the Sea of Marmara at the Dardanelles. In my opinion, operating in the Black Sea would pose an unnecessary risk to US task groups. Turkey is quite capable of self-defense having a large & modern military. The US could support its fellow NATO member from the eastern Med or Aegean Seas. It is understandable Russia opposes US carriers operating in the Black/Karadeniz Sea just as the US would oppose Russia or China operating a carrier group in the Caribbean or Gulf of Mexico.

[@aleempashashaik3318]

did anyone notice he dolphins swimming in front of the cruising cargo ship ? 9:18 So Beautiful

[@dorukstar7377]

That is why we dont want Canal İstanbul. It can destroy the whole İstanbul's ecosystem

[@TuAFFalcon]

Pasha? Where do you govern?

[@mnd7381]

@@dorukstar7377 sometimes, these dolphins, whales get hit and severely injured by large ships. Thats so sad.

[@aleempashashaik3318]

@@dorukstar7377 so true

[@aleempashashaik3318]

@@TuAFFalcon I'm from India

[@ahmetdurumFY]

"Minister of finance" *Looks at the crumbling economy*

[@minzblatt]

Economy is in crisis everywhere. Ever heard of Corona? At least Turkey is going its own way despite the sanctions and economic warfare of the west. Albayrak did a lot of good after his predecessor by actually tackling inflation which spiked shortly before he took office.

[@nicholasthuya7683]

@@minzblatt are you erdogans secret agent

[@jamesrocket5616]

Reverse stonks

[@yigithan.kilinc]

@@nicholasthuya7683 Probably one of his countless sheep

[@appleslover]

@@nicholasthuya7683 Erdoğan is turkey's second greatest leader after Atatürk

[@bradclifton5248]

I think by passing the convention may actually back fire and effectively open up risk of other issues that have been prevented till now.

[@panagiotisharos9625]

Congratulations...regards from Athens Greece..

[@dhv2852]

6:53 I like all the "stan" being salty and not signing an agreement about the sea, even Bolivia and Paraguay signed it.

[@isaa7010]

Well Pakistan and Afghanistan signed it so that's a lot of cap

[@leadharsh0616]

They don't want to divide the Caspian lol. That's their only way to world trade through Russia's canal.

[@peanutbutterman411]

@@isaa7010 ya cause they aren’t touching the sea but ya that’s it’s cap 🧢 that all the stans aren’t agreeing to it

[@jerry3790]

This sounds stupid. Instead of negotiating the terms of a UN treaty to find a solution everyone is happy with, turkey is needlessly wasting resources building a redundant canal

[@dorukstar7377]

We live with these bullshits every day, news or projects doesnt make sense

[@gareaap7806]

aside from the UN being useless. you have 5 countries that can veto any resolution the UN makes up. And if you have watched the video 3 off the ones that can veto have an interest in it.

[@ayouberriouch6876]

You need the vote of the five security council I don't know about the other but Russia will never accept

[@SAPlENS]

It is. The reason they want to do this project is not because they care about the public. The reasons why the government wanted this project: 1- Being richer by building the canal and the city around it. That is corruption, 2-Vanity, 3-In addition, the man at the head of the government sees himself as the sultan. He probably has something like a god complex. Such a channel is completely meaningless when there is a natural strait next to it. The Suez Canal saves ships from circumnavigating the African continent, which is about 10 days less travel. Kanal Istanbul does not have such a function because there is a natural strait right next to it. They say that Kanal Istanbul will reduce the ship traffic in the Bosphorus, but the ship traffic in the Bosphorus has been decreasing since 2008. This is because larger ships are being built. Apart from that, they claim that with the construction of the canal, the danger in the strait will decrease. Because a ship had hit a mansion before. However, there is a problem here: They will build cities on both sides of Canal Istanbul. Moreover, the widest part of Kanal Istanbul is narrower than the narrowest part of the channel, the deepest part of Kanal Istanbul is shallower than the shallowest part of the Bosphorus, and Kanal Istanbul is longer than the Bosphorus. Other arguments are that Kanal Istanbul will increase revenue. They talk as if the ships passing through the strait don't pay. This is not true. Every ship that passes through the strait pays. If this money was to be raised, they would have to resort to international laws for this. However, they do not have the political power to do this, and that is not their main purpose. In short, the government knows that all this is not true. But like any dictator, they want to continue to rule. For this, they need to please interest groups (those who commit corruption and much more).

[@DOSFS]

@@gareaap7806 VETO only work on Security Council, normal general assembly didn't have VETO and there are tons of agreement passed GA every year if they really want to. So It just about didn't want to do the paperwork.

[@alicantasurgan9054]

Im Turkish, first of all thanks for spending time and creating this video , and if anyone wondering what is this canal about watch 15 seconds from 13:30 this tells the whole story . A selfish project that even lead Turkey to war

[@xyeB]

Yup

[@ahha6304]

RLL: talks about Turkey digging canals me: aww that dolphin on 9:12

[@kilianfirebolt]

Aww the bullies of the sea that only reproduce through rape. Ever saw a dolphin teeth?

[@ahha6304]

I know someone here to say this, ues I know about it use quillfish as viagra or something, just, ha, they have to lead the ship

[@Erakius323]

Aww, such a cute dolphin. 😊

[@Morningstar_37]

the dolphin: omg there's a giant ship following me help it's too fast i will get killed

[@demo2290]

@@Morningstar_37 they re racing with ship :)

[@user-eb6vc2gs9e]

Basically Reason: To sell Arabs more land, coastsides. To make companies' ships trade faster in same amount of time, with that they gain more and there's a reason to pay to acces it. Also Turkey loves buildings, if that happens there would be several bridge thus consruction companies profit

[@unknownv1065]

It's just to get more money. It won't even start i don't think.

[@fightsports66]

@@unknownv1065 construction already started.

[@unknownv1065]

@@fightsports66 n o pee

[@fightsports66]

@@unknownv1065 I checked and you are right. The foundation for the first bridge is set to start work in the last week of june. That is next week so it has not started as of today.

[@minzblatt]

@@unknownv1065 we show the CHP how things are being done for the last 20 years. They only moan and complain until they themselves are using the facilities and projects like every bosporus bridge built until this day, the two big airports, the intercontinental subway marmaray and much more.

[@priyamdutta9328]

Good info

[@AkChiVibes]

I just got back and I can definitely say Istanbul was an eye full!

[@sonicdueler]

When a piece of paper is stronger then metric tons of rock and dirt xD

[@RoScFan]

It s not the paper, it s tens of armies of tens of nations. They re trying to outwit and bullshit each other. The paper is but a small but critical component of that.

[@thedreammakerco]

Rock, scissors, Montreux Convention

[@user-fi4wn3te8v]

@Russ Makhauri I choose rock!

[@Bikavin]

@@user-fi4wn3te8v ROCK IS SUPERIOR

[@kadash7126]

@@Bikavin not to paper gentlemen

[@eliteexpression]

Romans and Byzantines were one and the same. They never called themselves the Byzantine Empire, historians called them that to differentiate between the ERE before and after the fall of the West.

[@pmparda]

@@maniaces not all byzantines were greek but they were greek speaking romans. They still considered their empire the roman empire. Only it was eastern and western

[@Brock1812]

They mostly spoke greek but latin was a second language. The eastern roman empire had conquered most of the old western roman areas at one point just to regain lost roman land. They viewed themselves as romans with greek characteristics just like the egyptians viewed themselves as romans with a egyptian characteristics. The same could be said of The rest of the old roman empirical areas with their own identities.

[@jeanghika7653]

Byzance était un petit faubourg de Constantinople.

[@iakovojackgr6729]

@@pmparda some kings were Latins but Byzantine is a Greek empire.

[@Egilhelmson]

@@maniaces The “Greeks” considered themselves Romans up until the Greek Independence Movement revived the terms “Hellene”, “Hellas”, “Hellenic”, etc. Actually, they considered themselves as Rhomanoi for about a generation thereafter, because the poorest areas were contacted last.

[@Frazec_Atsjenkov]

0:30 "It has served as the capital city for three great historical empires..." It is questionable to view the Roman Empire as a different historical entity from the Byzantine Empire. The etiquette "Byzantine Empire" is something that was added after the fact. The so-called Byzantians just saw themselves as Romans. It is the same Empire that some people decided to give a different name. But that doesn't make it a different empire.

[@Revolver.Ocelot]

When I was sailing there we always had a 3 day BBQ because we always had to wait. Our route was Italy, Greece, Turkey, Ukraine Georgia and Russia etc.

[@ThatBasedGuy]

"Did you receive a profit from the canal?" "Yes" "What did it cost?" "Global conflict at our doorstep"

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

To be fair they Joined Nato but flit with Russia so neutrally is really no longer an option.

[@BelcarrigFarm]

@@GreenBlueWalkthrough peace was never an option

[@Redaft]

@@GreenBlueWalkthrough I am Russian and I think Russia needs to be destroyed

[@whosasking9655]

@@Redaft then you're not Russian. No wise person set's fire to their home because they want to feel warm

[@Redaft]

@@whosasking9655 by “Russian” I mean I was born in Russia and live in Russia rn. This country is garbage and I want to destroy it so much because of government, people, nation mentality and some much more.

[@AAM724]

Reallifelore: Doesn't have a sponsor that is dashlane, skillshare, squarespace or curiosity stream Everyone: *Impossible*

[@HolyShitNew]

my lord is that legal?

[@Claw_Chan]

its POSSIBLE

[@Bikavin]

OMG ITS CAN'T BE POSIBBEL

[@hazelich9113]

*skillshare*

[@AAM724]

@@hazelich9113 Oh yeah, I will correct it

[@ancestralvision]

I'm still not fully awake but i swear i've heard "Go to hell fresh" in the intro ad

[@ooi97]

Me, learning that Europe is cut in half by two connected rivers: My world view: 🤯

[@the_feedle]

They are not naturally connected, they are connected by a canal

[@roiq5263]

So a half of Europe is an island?

[@canerg1151]

Rhine-Main-Danube Canal flows through Nuremberg, where I live. Actually, it's approximately 5 minutes away from my home. I go there for a run multiple times a week, feels special every time.

[@Oli-Johnson]

@@roiq5263 no, Europe is still connected to Asia via Russia. Also a continent isn't an island, otherwise North and South America would be an island. And Australia isn't classed as an island because it's classed as a continent.

[@ooi97]

@@roiq5263 my thoughts exactly

[@berkayerdogan3847]

"Its like KZbin premium, but nobody buys it" so true

[@GregMoress]

You can bet your sweet ass that the US would pay to put subs next to Putin's South Beach residence.

[@tunceris]

I do :(

[@omarowaychi5970]

I bought it

[@riverrat777]

As soon as he said that I got an ad

[@berkayerdogan3847]

@@riverrat777 damn...

[@exoticfanta]

I lived near the danube my whole Life (i only lived for 2 years away from the danube) and i never Seen Like a Transport ship

[@Jonathan_Doe_]

The air quality there must be abysmal with all those ships passing through churning out particulates.

[@semihdyngyldai4503]

in Turkey: People are dying of hunger, graduates can't find a job, innocent people are being arrested, Turkish Lira's worth sent to oblivion Politicians: *let's build an island*

[@StratosTitan]

Smells like authoritarian fascist government. They all do megalomaniac projects when they feel it's close to the end.

[@swiggyhunter4682]

Sorry, I'm ignorant to Turkish struggles...but isn't this canal a good thing?

[@mertince2310]

No one ever dies from hunger in Turkey. The rest are true but people dying from hunger is an exaggeration.

[@k3v1n73]

@@swiggyhunter4682 did you watch the video? it could be, for the goverment, which doesnt mean much in turkey, could be a bad thing. it will cost a good amount of moeny, istanbul will loose a good amount of freshwater.

[@huseyinsoldaccount.865]

@@swiggyhunter4682 Its NOT good for Istanbul, After some years Istanbul will be hit by an eartquake wich is bigger than 7.We are crying our asses to tell Erdogan that he needs to cancel this because its makjing city weaker, ınstead of making it stronger he does THİS.Next Election he will definitly lose because Gen Z can vote and OOHHH BOY THEY HATE HİM.

[@ekinloker]

Correction: "Former" Minister of Finance. Not that it is important, just fills me with joy :)

[@tugkanberk]

lol me too

[@muratgulgen8893]

Yes same

[@tugkanberk]

@Panzer Elite that is our dream

[@Matthew-Anthony]

@Panzer Elite He only wants what is best for his people. You can not blame him for that.

[@bjkyefe]

@@Matthew-Anthony too easy to say that for you

[@Gatoraded27]

there might be a problem regarding the island plan, the istanbul metro system will expand into most of istanbul's areas, including silivri so i dont think they could make the island without approaching a future rail tunnel.

[@Gatoraded27]

this especially applies to m11

[@lightline9541]

RealLifeLore: "wAtCh tHiS vIdEo aD fReE oN nEbUlA" Me: "Haven't you heard of ad blockers?!"

[@iskender7000]

I'm turkish and i can say that this canal thing got politic. People are blindly supporting or going against this idea by their politic opinion. It sucks that politics and money make peoples desicions. Trees and fields in the way of the canal will be destroyed. It's not just the canal, they are going to build a city around it! So both İstanbul's population will boom and nature will be gone. I doubt the sanity of anyone who supports this.

[@KaiserRatte56]

So what do you think about silksong?

[@NuggetOG]

@@KaiserRatte56 ah yes, the natural response to this

[@iskender7000]

@@KaiserRatte56 Well, I'm excited to play as hornet. I just hope the game comes out as soon as possible.

[@MuhammedGemci]

Not only that, but since the immediate area is overdue for a major earthquake, dumping all that money on a political project instead of rebuilding of the old buildings within the city (there are many, some standing by a thin thread) is ignorance of millions at best. That money would be spend best to rebuild the city, but more importantly, improve Anatolian cities and generate quality jobs there. Nowadays people who live in Istanbul do so not because it's a good city to live, but because economic opportunities are better there.

[@KaiserRatte56]

@@NuggetOG well, when you see a hornet pfp you just have to ask!

[@whitetiger9974]

Wow a dolphin is having good time in front of the ship. 9:16

[@setysssty1845]

It is a dolphin

[@witherwolf3316]

I don't think that's good. Boats are dangerous, if they blow their horn it will likely cause permanent damage to... well everything.

[@millen7452]

@@setysssty1845 Yes

[@user-wu4rk1ls6x]

actually they use wave forces from the ship to swim and having kind of fun

[@albertjordan3249]

@@user-wu4rk1ls6x PETA: Nooooooo that ship is trying to crush those dolphins! Someone save them! Dolphins: Haha wake surfing go brrrrrrr

[@kylejohnson6867]

13:11 “It’s sort of like how people feel about using KZbin Premium.” Your well placed bon mot just killed me!

[@DiscoverTop10Places]

What is air travel is replaced by hyper loop or some other technology in near future?

[@peace_of_mind_00]

I've been to Istanbul before back in 2009/2010. It was a beautiful city.

[@METAN0L]

Now it's a shithole

[@xavierrealmadrid7420]

@@METAN0L is still more attractive than moscow, madrid or lisbon.

[@gameraiders4749]

What do you mean, its still good. I live in here.

[@Alexs.2599]

@@xavierrealmadrid7420 Oh come on that's not true.

[@secretguy7647]

Yeah it was. Now it is concrete. Just concrete and corruption.

[@aralii9935]

One more thing that I would have added to this video is that, Istanbul is located in a very geologically active location so in the event of a large earthquake (which experts say that will be above magnitude7), everybody who lives in European Istanbul would be stuck and they would not be able to escape the densely packed city. On top of that, this new canal will travel through kilometers of forest which would danger the lives of many native and endangered species. It also has the added risk of introducing invasive marine species to the inland sea of Marmara from the black sea or vice versa because the strong currents of the Bosporus straight blocks this naturally. Edit: New polls suggest that on the general elections in 2023, it looks highly likely that Erdogan might not get re-elected and I feel like the entire reason on why this insane project is going ahead is because he wants to leave a final mark, a permanent signature, before he is stripped away from all of his power.

[@mushi475]

merak etme deprem bundan çok önce olacak, İstanbul'da yaşıyorsan asıl o zaman ağlayacaksın, gidecek yerin olmayacak, şehir eski ve çarpık, yenisi gerekiyor? yüzde kaçı yıkılacak kim bilir ama çok yüksek bir oran olacağı belli.

[@xwtek3505]

If there is an earthquake, you won't be able to go that far either. Earthquake is not like volcano at all. Earthquake is short and sudden, any escape would be into a nearby open field like road instead of escaping the city.

[@mushi475]

@@xwtek3505 what im saying is not the time that earthquake happening, i mean the after, the only buildings that can stand that earthquake are the bridges or others, other than that city will become pile of rubble, and clearing all those rubble will take a long time, that will cause so many damages to economy and people, but imagine new city that has better buildings and new stuff to make money for country, at least for a while, thats what i was meaning to

[@xwtek3505]

@@mushi475 1. Replacing the city would be an even bigger investion than istanbul canal. 2. Such problem can be solved for cheaper than applying a strict building code to new building to gradually make the building stronger.

[@mushi475]

@@xwtek3505 well you dont know how istanbul is, i live here and its too late to do anything