Why Universal Audio Plugins Are Worth It

[@bassinblue]

I commented in another similar video, but I'll kind of summarise it here. Getting UAD plugins, isn't a matter of 'if' it's a matter of 'when'. Rather than twiddle my thumbs, I just bit the bullet and got their plugins in their current sale, which is the cheapest in the history of their company. I genuinely not only heard a difference, but FELT a difference. Got most of their plugins, in their current sale, which is the biggest sale of their companies history. End of the day, these are tools to help us carry out and aid a project, in order to enhance it. Personally, I am getting more positive feedback from clients than usual, which is the difference that is standing out the most to me. Get them!

[@OMGItsJimmyNash]

Going to a UAD setup (Apollo-x4) changed the game for me. I came to a point where my bottleneck in mix quality was no longer in my knowledge, skill, or ability to get the most out of the tools at hand; I was at a place where I realized that the only significant improvements to my mixes that could be made, could only come from changing up the tools I used. I wasn't prepared for neither the degree of immediate improvement in quality or the other aspects of the whole process of production that would be revolutionized by going to the UAD system. Mixing in Luna, using oxide tape emulation and the Neve Analog Summing plugin allows for sound quality and mixing behavior that is indistinguishable from very expensive analog consoles I've used in the past. When you push the levels on the mix bus, saturation sets the limit, as opposed to digital clipping... and its behavior is far more authentic than anything else I have ever used before UAD to try to emulate that analog redline response. I'm very happy with the x4... I intend to buy the x16 soon.

[@AceArty23]

Could I load as many uad plug-ins in my daw with an Apollo solo? Or would I have to commit a couple plug-ins at a time to the audio? Great video

[@HomeStudioRescue]

Thanks man! It would depend on the DSP on your device. There will a limit for the plugins you can use on the Apollo depending on how chips you have. Each Plugin has a different load, but you would run out of DSP at some point. What I would do is create a plugin chain you like and commit to it on the way in.

[@boulila]

Hello please i want to know ! If im recording my songs but always give them to a professionnal mix engineer ! Is it still worth it to buy the appollo twin and use the uad plugins ! Or i can use only a cheaper sound interface and should i go with a cheaper sound interface and send everything to the mix engineer !! Is it worth it to buy the appollo if i dont mix my music by my self ?? Thnks a lot

[@HomeStudioRescue]

Hello, If you know how to use EQ and Compression it can help, but it can also be easy to over do it or screw things up. If you are not going to use plugins on the way in, I would spend the money on a decent interface and Microphones. Does that answer your question? Thanks for watching! Chris

[@boulila]

@@HomeStudioRescue my last question : ! What could be my options for a descent audio interface if i want to upgrade my scarlett old generation ?? Can i record a professionnal album with a scarlett ( i play jazz ) or i should go with something like the apogee or the appollo twin if i want a «professional» sound ! Thnk again chris

[@HomeStudioRescue]

I believe you can make a professional sounding recording with a focus right Scarlet solo, but the preamp‘s on the UAD stuff are better, and there’s a lot of tone shaping capability there with their plug-ins. Audient makes good stuff. In going from focusrite Interfaces to the Apollo I definitely noticed a big difference in my audio conversion. I think upgrading from the focusrite can help. Here is a link to Sweetwater for the Audient interface I recommend. www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/iD14mk2--audient-id14mkii-usb-c-audio-interface

[@boulila]

@@HomeStudioRescue thnks a lot chris

[@HomeStudioRescue]

You’re welcome my friend!

[@campar1043]

the UAD apollos also have very good quality ad converters and built in preamps

[@campar1043]

@@bigdap100 I have and it’s still good

[@campar1043]

@@bigdap100 problem is if you want the UAD plugins

[@campar1043]

@@bigdap100 I don’t know, because UAD plugins are good?

[@peachez3450]

Switching to a UAD interface was one of the best decisions I've ever made. The funny thing is I was one of those guys who fell for the whole "Analog outboard gear is far better and the plugins can never compare". So being naive I thought the only way I'm going to capture that "depth, that warmth" that people on Gearslutz raved about was with analog gear. After spending a ton and owning some of the best preamps like a Neve 1073, Avalon 737, Universal audio la-610 mkii etc. I wasn't happy. In the end I decided to just hit up some very talented producers and big artists that I loved the sound of their recordings and asked what they use, almost every single time you know what they told me? an Apollo Twin + microphone with uad plugins... I was shocked and kept asking is that it? no outboard gear??! They didn't use ANY outboard gear. This happened constantly! So then I just said screw it and sold all my outboard gear and bought a uad interface and the plugins are damn near the real deal. Your average listeners would never be able to tell the difference, and that's who you're making the music for. Cost wise it's SOOO much cheaper, buy a used Apollo then save up and buy the plugins when they have a big sale, you'll be laughing. UAD is a win win

[@HomeStudioRescue]

Dude! I bought all of this outboard gear, hybrid mixing set up, $10of thousands of dollars of money on gear. I went the Blackbird Academy in Nashville and sold all of my outboard except a Distressor. I got to use Neve consoles, API, SSL, every vintage mic you could think and outboard compressor...Even a real Fairchild. The Plugins are close enough and guess what?? It really does start at the source and it's about the song. If the song stinks and the musicians aren't good, it won't sound good. I know that sounds negative, but it should be freeing! You can make great music at home with budget gear!! You can make awesome recordings with a Focusrite Solo or a UAD interface...It's about the source. I'm glad you found out you don't need expensive outboard gear. Congrats! Chris

[@neoaureus]

@Yuriy ...who doesnt have a clue ? can you explain...

[@stogymoods4249]

So If I‘d get an apollo twin x duo and I wouldn‘t use UAD‘s, would the DSP be enough or would normal plugins still use too much dsp?

[@HomeStudioRescue]

Hello, So the Apollo twin would use your universal audio plug-ins only. You can use third-party plug-ins and that will not affect your DSP.. only universal audio plug-ins will affect your DSP. Your third-party plug-ins will run off of your computer. I think the duo would work if you were just recording with it, but if you want to mix he would probably need a quad or more. It also just depends on DSP heavy the plug-ins are you’re using. If you want to mix with UAD plug-ins I would recommend a quad

[@HomeStudioRescue]

Sorry for typos, damn talk to text. Thanks for watching and your comment!

[@briancase6180]

I have an Apollo solo, and can run a couple useful plugin instances before it runs out of capacity. If that's all you need, great. But it's almost useless for me, and the round trip from computer to interface and back again just adds more latency. Now, if you're using a mic pre plugin just for tracking a vocal, say, then latency won't be an issue for that, and the interface can handle that. But for production, it's really not all that useful.

[@scottthomas3672]

Yes, I am already vested in an Apollo and several plugins. I just purchased a satellite for 400$. Luna is nice too.

[@HomeStudioRescue]

Spark is cool. I’m lucky enough to own most of the spark plug-in so I got them for free. But I don’t have to have a spark subscription so that’s cool and it doesn’t affect your DSP and they sound just as good. I’m gonna be making a video on this topic

[@J3.16-]

Thank you for the awesome education

[@HomeStudioRescue]

You’re welcome, thank you for watching!

[@voice-of-oblivion]

I think the only future for UAD is to decouple the plugins from the hardware and make them available as AU, VST, and so on... I would buy some of their plugins but only if I don´t need to buy that stone age processor. DSP power will be a negligible problem in the future.

[@HomeStudioRescue]

You’re not wrong about DSP not being needed. I don’t see companies getting rid of it though. It’s kind of a gate keeper or an entry fee. They are one of the most popular companies out there. There will be a day when that’s not the case, but I don’t see them getting rid of their interfaces or satellites. I don’t see them changing when they’re raking in the money. I could see them making a cheaper one though, but The cheaper ones they have now aren’t really worth it either.

[@mrmostlyharmless]

@Monochord subscription based tho

[@bassinblue]

You predicted it perfectly!

[@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios]

I don't get it... Do I need a satellite AND an interface? I wish there was a list of requirements

[@HomeStudioRescue]

You don't have to have both! I would say if you want to mix with UAD Plugins on more than five tracks or so you will need an interface with at-least a quad or get a satellite as well. Otherwise, you will run out of DSP very quickly. Here is a video on this topic. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2eyqqiAaMaoa6c Thanks for watchin! Chris

[@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios]

@@HomeStudioRescue Thank you. I also just found out that a satellite is tied to the system via USB/Firewire/Thunderbolt. Because of rackmounting... I had it in my head that it was network DSP. LOL

[@mikemoprobeats164]

I like how you keep it real!!!!!!

[@HomeStudioRescue]

Thanks Mike!

[@mikemoprobeats164]

I got the twinx duo but I have to bring it back for the x4

[@HomeStudioRescue]

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[@themarcos150591]

For the Non-UAD users, it would be useful to leave a link with the songs they have made. They say they can use an Audient with 30 dolars plugins and sound as good as any other song made with UAD stuff. I would like to listen to those songs and hear if they are actually as good as they claim.

[@HomeStudioRescue]

I believe you can make good sounding recordings with any of the plug-ins out there really. For me I really enjoy recording with the plug-ins in real time. No latency. But if you’re not doing that, might be good just to stick with non-universal audio Plugins. Just like a lot of things with audio, I don’t think we would be able to tell the difference between a song mixed through waves pugins or Universal and Audio. Same thing with a digital audio workstation, no one will know the difference if you recorded and mixed through ProTools or logic. It’s whatever works best for you

[@zmln6968]

Heavy plus for this point I recently upgraded my setup to use UAD stuff and Apollo interface as most of the pros i follow and sound producers i like used it and recommended a lot.. I was doing exactly the same processing as i used to with Waves or any other major plugins providers and result was very different in terms of quality. Yes waves or smth else could sounds pretty close on single tracks if you A/B but in overall mix and than master you will get really great boost to sound with UAD. And Apollo is really so precise and clean my mixes started to translates better to smaller speakers using exactly same monitors and processing chains. I doubt that you can really get professional level sound on really cheap audio interface and monitors.

[@MrMemyselfandi415]

I appreciate your thoughts...but I wouldn't push people into the aero or a dual core. If they're strapped they shouldn't be purchasing UA stuff at all. Get an Audient interface...run reaper and use stock and free plug ins along with some waves stuff you can get on a sale. Some of those plugs are really great and they're as low as 29 bucks. That's how you do it on the cheap. Trying to do UAD on the cheap will only frustrate people. I can't tell you how many times I've heard folks warn me that they got into the dual core and were PISSED when it only runs like one or two instances of their fav plugs and were so pissed off that they had to sell it and get the upgraded version. Save myself the time and trouble and just do it once, and do it right from the get go for only a couple hundred bucks more more they said....and they were ALL RIGHT. No regrets. My advice would be just to accept that you're going to pay out the ass to get the best plugs and interface made, but it's still MUCH cheaper than the real equipment as you mentioned and you can buy it on time for no interest from sweetwater or something. Then get to making great music. Anyway...not trying to be a dick...just trying to save some people a lot of trouble.

[@HomeStudioRescue]

Hey dude, no worries. I invite feedback. Here’s a video I recently made talking about running out of DSP with universal audio. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2eyqqiAaMaoa6c Since making this video I would recommend at least a quad core. I do use wave plug-ins, but I’ve had bad experiences with their update plan. I don’t recommend those to people especially if you’re gonna spend a lot of money on them, because you’re gonna eventually have to pay to update as well. I’ve had to do it twice in the last ten years which isn’t terrible, but most people have no clue that they’re have to pay for updates. I have two videos on that topic if you want more info. Also I do agree even that plugins are a great alternative spending thousands upon thousand on outboard gear. That is part of my argument for UAD stuff. You can track with a compressor so you don’t need to buy an expensive outboard compressor and preamp. I do understand though, that if you buy a cheap UAD interface with less than a quad core you’re not gonna be able to use those plug-ins to mix very well. I say that in my other you UA video Thanks for watching and commenting! Chris

[@andrewahn7083]

Hey Chris, what plugins do you recommend from UAD? Anything that's a must grab?

[@HomeStudioRescue]

Hey Drew, I really love the Fatso, the Pultec EQs, the API 2500 is great for drums and mixbuss. I had the hardware version and it's really close. The 1176 collection is great. The Cambridge EQ is also great EQ that is low DSP. What type of music are you mixing? The Fatso is either on my Drum Buss or Drum Crush Buss. I really want to buy the 176, that things great on vocals. Also what do you feel you are lacking with your current plugins? Thanks! Chris

[@andrewahn7083]

@@HomeStudioRescue Thanks for the reply Chris, currently Im debating between the UAD Pultec and the Apogee version. Why is there no reviews for the Apogee version? I know its endorsed and licensed.

[@HomeStudioRescue]

@@andrewahn7083 Hi Drew, Honestly I have not tried the Apogee version. I can say that the UAD Pultec is a cool plugin for adding low end to kick and bass and some air to vocals. Good luck with whatever you decide!

[@MrRon33]

Chris, good information and I have a question? I have the Apollo Twin, Mark II and I love it. Are the built-in plug-ins ample for Guitar/Bass, Vocals, Drums/percussions, Strings, and Horns in the Mark II? If not, which 3 AUD plug-ins would you recommend to buy for the above instruments to add some character? Home studio user. Thanks, Ron

[@HomeStudioRescue]

Neve 1073 is good for guitars and drums and pretty much everything. the 610 is cool for horns, vocals, bass. Honestly those they are pretty cool for adding a little color. I don’t think you go wrong with any of their emulations. Also you can demo each plugin for 15 days. I would record with clean pres and then go nuts demoing all the different Pre amps and pick your favorite one or two to start. Thanks for watching! Chris

[@stiffyBlicky]

I'm a believer, only thing that fucking sucks is that I have to be plugged into my apollo to have them working. Going to start printing my tracks as a work around.

[@HomeStudioRescue]

Yeah, I commit and when I have a chain I like on the Apollo I record through it. The other option is to get a satellite, they are expensive though

[@stiffyBlicky]

From what I can tell those have to be plugged in too

[@HomeStudioRescue]

Yeah, they do. I was thinking if you didn’t want to use the Apollo for some reason.

[@anthemmakersmusic]

Luna is Mac only still

[@HomeStudioRescue]

True. I probably messed that one up.

[@anthemmakersmusic]

Eventually they will get around to it

[@gdanila]

I don’t think UAD plugins can make or break a record. With that said, I’m an advocate for the “get the sound at the source” approach and UAD lets you do just that. This is the only reason I invested in their hardware, so I can track with their preamps, channel strips, compressors, tape machines, etc. I don’t really use their plugs for mixing. Cheers!

[@HomeStudioRescue]

Totally agree with getting it right at the source. And they definitely help with that. I do use them for mixing, but they are no by no means necessary for that

[@badrussianmusic6181]

Are you using auto tune when recording this? Your voice sounds dope when you say Aero

[@HomeStudioRescue]

Thank you, No, no auto tune. I did speed the video up in iMovie so that’s probably what you’re hearing. Sometimes that messes with the phasing.

[@weeschwee]

I'm curious, are you using a mac? Im on windows 10 and I'm running some wave's v9 plugins that still work fine. Waves onto v12 now. I don't like their update plan either, but I figure I'll just never pay for it. Instead I'll support other devs like Klanghelm.

[@HomeStudioRescue]

I'm on a 2015 Macbook pro., which is becoming a nightmare with Mac's switch from 32 bit to 64 bit and then new hardware on their computers. I'm back on Sierra after updating Catalina and being it 64 bit and a lot of plugin companies haven't caught up. I've made a couple of videos on the WUP and I get alot of windows users saying they've never needed to update or had any problems. That's cool, once I switched to Mac, I've really enjoyed using their computers, but don't enjoy all of the BS with Operating System. I unfortunately feel that I will have to buy another computer in the next couple of years because of the Mac hardware switch. Also because I believe newer plugins will continue to get better and better. At any rate, I'm sticking with what I have for now. Thanks for watching! Chris

[@weeschwee]

@@HomeStudioRescue well, I won't defend wave's update plan because I think it's dumb, but maybe it's unfair to criticize them for mac's compatibility issues.

[@djtwilite318]

i found out the hard way that waves is a cheaper way to go. get a waves server like impact server c and digigrid d audio interface and their plugin bundles etc and u got the exact same thing as uad dsp processing also with using waves everything is Ethernet so no need for thunderbolt or firewire or usb etc. waves is the way to go.

[@HomeStudioRescue]

Universal Audio is definitely not the cheapest plugin model. The whole DSP thing can get old real quick even with a quad core.

[@djtwilite318]

@@HomeStudioRescue right and with waves impact server c it can handle up to 400 plugins at once. Uad maybe 5 depending on the plugins you use.

[@briancase6180]

Here's why UAD plugins are no longer relevant: an apple M1-based Mac has WAY more processing power than any reasonable UAD hardware. I have an Apollo interface, and the sound quality is good, but the number of plugins I can run there is almost useless. Laptops and desktops are making UAD stuff irrelevant going forward. Unless they do something to provide way more value, I think they're toast. That's why they offer Luna for free. They know they're goose is cooked unless they do something to gain loyalty or lock people in. With protools remaining the standard, I don't see it. In many cases, the quality of other brands of plugins are at least as good as UAD's. I do agree the quality of UAD stuff is quite good, but it's not head and shoulders above other premium hardware interfaces.

[@HomeStudioRescue]

You make some good points. I like the sound of UAD plug-ins and I also like recording with them in real time, but with how powerful The new Macs are going to be once everyone catches up software wise. The DSP thing won’t really matter. Honestly, I only needed the DSP because UAD requires that. For me if you’re going to invest in UAD then you might as well get as much DSP power as you can. I also like UAD just because I think they’re plug-ins sound really good, but it sounds like things are catching up. Thanks for watching

[@MusicZtorm]

Lots af the same comments with this new M1 chip ... I copy paste my opinion from another video ... : You haven't truly understand what is the UAD platform IMHO. From the FAQ : "With Apollo, latency is basically indiscernible. For example, when recording four "stacked" UAD plug-ins on the input in real time, analog-to-analog latency at 96kHz comes in at 1.1 milliseconds. Of course, 1.1 ms is not an uncommon spec when compared to other professional audio interfaces, however it is unheard of to get that level of latency performance when tracking with plug-ins. With its onboard Realtime UAD Processing, Apollo can retain its low-latency performance even in large sessions, and you can leave your computer at a buffer setting that it can handle." www.uaudio.fr/blog/apollo-faq/ I can have a buffer at 2048 and tracking at an indiscernible latency and not taxing my cpu. Therefore I can buy a smaller computer ... computers that change more frequently than UAD ( you've bought the lastest MacBook Pro 16 with Intel cpu ? .... 6 month later, Apple presents the Apple M1 chip ! = you lost money. In comparison, UAD-1 release date 2001 and "until the end of 2008 Universal Audio will transfer any UAD1 plug-in authorisations to UAD2 free of charge" ) Another benefit : in tracking mode : you give a nice reverb to the singer. He wants the same in the mix : you can track with the plugin, record dry and put the same plugin later in your DAW Another one ? : no updates fees when a new OS is released (unlike Waves plugin for exemple) ;)

[@briancase6180]

@@MusicZtorm Latency? You think going from the computer over a communication channel--thunderbolt or whatever--to the DSP hardware and back is going to cause *less* latency than staying within the DAW and its plugins? I don't think so.

[@tuneunleashed]

I agree 100% especially after the M1 Pro Max I'm glad I didn't buy a Universal Apollo X4 and went with a Babyface Pro instead and use Waves Plugins and plugin alliance

[@JamalCorrie]

To me the Dsp limitation is a major downside to the capabilities of this device. It’s like towing a truck with a Prius. Why try and replace what a computer can do significantly better unless I fork out another $4,000 to get a more powerful interface? And then, sure, now I have two trucks. Great I guess…

[@HomeStudioRescue]

Yeah, two years later I agree. DSP is outdated. I do enjoy using the Apollo for recording with their plug-ins, but for mixing it’s kind of an outdated model

[@HomeStudioRescue]

Are you thinking about buying a Universal Audio Interface or Satellite? What's holding you back, besides price?

[@HomeStudioRescue]

@Abhishek SrivastavaHi Abhishek, Thanks for the comments! I like the Slate Subscription model. For $15/month you can't beat all you get. UAD Plugins are expensive and so are the devices. I will say if you need a compressor to track vocals with, The UAD stuff fits the bill and it's cheaper then buying an actual compressor and preamp. I love the Infinity EQ and the VCC stuff. I know their mic, you can track with it, which is cool. In my experience plugins are closer to the real hardware for mixing, it's a very small amount for a big price. There are mixing I'm using like 80% Slate Plugins and the rest Waves, UAD, and Kush.

[@HomeStudioRescue]

@Abhishek Srivastava I think they both will work. I use a lot of Slate plugins. You can't beat the subscription. I have a real Distressor as well and the plugins are in the ballpark. I don't think you "need" UAD plugin to track or mix. My point is that it is a cheaper option than buying hardware if you want to track with compression. For the most part, my channel is for beginners and I hate the idea that you need expensive preamps or compressors to track. If you can get something like UAD or the Slate Microphone that would a cheaper option.

[@HomeStudioRescue]

@Abhishek Srivastava I'll give it a shot next time I track some vocals.

[@HomeStudioRescue]

@Abhishek Srivastava Hey dude, this was in my KZbin feed. I don't know if you saw this or not. Pretty good A/B for the Hardware vs the plugin kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4DFeWmlh9-tptE

[@jazzzfer]

Apollo depreciates much faster than hardware

[@mikemoprobeats164]

GREAT

[@HomeStudioRescue]

A little more food for thought kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2eyqqiAaMaoa6c

[@gotyor]

I was going to leave this fan boy page alone till you said free upgrades. lol dude I bought the first ssl channel plugin, then a few years later the better one came out... no no no wtf. that should have been an upgrade. Their excuse was we went back and remolded it. well maybe you should have done it right the first time. Also I had a twin and a satelite on a PC and guess after an update they no longer would overflow the processing to each other. So I was down to just the dsp of the Satelite. after 3 months of tech support and never figuring out the problem sold all that crap. Also the monitor system sucks compared to other systems. unless your using LUNA its a nightmare. on Luna it works as it should... but if your using another daw forget about it. do your self a favor and buy a quick a$$ computer and any other interface with great converters running on thunderbolt and skip this b.s. option

[@HomeStudioRescue]

That sucks man, Sorry to hear about all that. I will say a lot of companies make newer versions of their plugins that they sell as either an upgrade or something separate altogether. I know Fab Filter does this. I'm okay with that as long as there are updates for the older version to work on a newer Operating system. Also since making this video, I've found out that I can't combine my firewire Satellite with newer UA interfaces. That kind of stinks. Also, it won't work with LUNA. I've made a couple of videos on UAD stuff and also how expensive it can become if you truly want to mix with their plugins. I would not call myself a fanboy of UA. I try to give honest opinions as to the good and the bad. Thanks for watching, Chris

[@LIGHTintheHALLS]

The hardware that UAD is emulating does not sound thousands of dollars better. Plus I love having 2 Fairchild compressors for example.

[@HomeStudioRescue]

I agree, at this point I don’t think a lot of the new plug-ins sound Far away from their hardware counterparts. Like you said especially not thousands of dollars better.

[@SclimBeats]

Cool subbed

[@HomeStudioRescue]

Thanks my friend! I appreciate the sub

[@ojvic7297]

Waves are equally great too ...if you've got waves you don't need the uad

[@chrizz6350]

Not Even Close.

[@HomeStudioRescue]

I have both and use both. I'm not a big fan of the Waves Update plan, but the plugins themselves are very usable. I don't think you need either, but they are great tools. Both good, just different and It's great you can record using UAD plugins in real time. Thanks for watching! Chris

[@chrizz6350]

@@HomeStudioRescue people that says waves are equally great, dont have an idea what they are talking about. Uad plugins light year apart the quality compared to waves. The only companies who competes with universal are plugin alliance and softube

[@ojvic7297]

@@chrizz6350 ..for example....channel orange was mixed in the box strictly with waves plugins..that album sounds amazing...now that's one of many albums mixed strictly using waves plugins.....bro it's not about the tools... it's about how you use them!!!....all the producers you idolise use waves plugins more than the uads ....i bet you!...i repeat if you've got waves plugins, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO WASTE MONEY ON UAD PLUGINS!!!...

[@FanaticDrummer]

You have to pay for Waves updates and upgrades and since apple is changing their architecture, you better get ready for those updates

[@TrillTraxx]

The best interface out right now is the SOLID STATE SSL 2+ way Much Faster with Better Less Latency, over all the Apollo sounds too robottic as the SSL sounds more natural . Its Better uppon Specs too if you do your reaserch online or youtube. Apollo is just a overated gear , you still have to pay for the plugins that can only be used with its interface , waves plugins sound just the same and can be used with any interface and take less CPU power .

[@HomeStudioRescue]

I think UAD plugins are pretty good. You don’t have pay a lot for them. I don’t think waves plug-ins are better or worse, I just think they’re different. Are use a lot of waves plug-ins, but I don’t enjoy playing for the update plan whenever it need to update. I think both are great tools. Thanks for watching and commenting! Chris

[@ojvic7297]

@@HomeStudioRescue There are equally great!!!...come on... don't put pressure on people....waves plugins are crazy asf... coming from someone who uses both

[@johnisrael5183]

Just bought one!!! Yesssss!!!

[@johnisrael5183]

Just got the SSL +2

[@nonahyobusiness8063]

"It sounds, like, 60-70% like the real thing." I've been buying and upgrading computer software and computer hardware since 1997. Remember Bias Deck or Peak? All the old MOTU gear? When Logic was owned by Emagic? The PowerMac 840av/8600/9600? I have spent 4-5x the $$$$$$ in computer software and computer hardware than on the top-of-the-line outboard audio gear I have. The funny thing is.... all of the outboard gear still works, sounds 100% real (bc it isn't a phony computer sim or model, it IS a real piece of hardware), and I only had to pay for it ONCE. *ALL OF THAT OLD COMPUTER SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE IS 100% OBSOLETE AND SOUNDS LIKE SH-T.* I'll never get that money back in a resale. Stop being stupid hamster on the marketing subscription wheel of extortion. Think about what you are buying. Spend your money more wisely, folks.

[@HomeStudioRescue]

Outboard gear break too. Your right about resale. I went The Blackbird Academy having a real API 2500, a Sta Level, Distressor, API 550b, I had a TG1. It cost thousands of dollars and was a pain to recall. It didn't sound that much better than in the box. I've used real Fairchild's. Blackbird has a tech to keep all of that stuff working. Recall is a bitch and my mixes in the box mixes were just as good as my mixes on a console or in a hybrid set up. If outboard works for you that's great, but a lot of my audience doesn't need that stuff. They also don't need that message outboard gear is so much. It's not! None of the stuff plays your instruments for you, or write the song for you or sings it for you. It all starts with the player, the room, the song. I heard that for years and it took going to Blackbird to really gasp, that you can have millions of dollars of gear and Neve consoles and vintage mics, but if you don't have a good song and good musicians, that none of that matters. A lot of the plugins out there will do their job well, but it all starts at the source. I sold every except my Distressor and Pacifica because I want a compressor on the way in for vocals. Having this idea that you need outboard gear crap. I'm sorry if you're old plugins sound crappy. Every year plugins are sounding better and better. For the guy in his bedroom making music, abunch outboard isn't going to make the difference.