Why Was Patrick Mahomes NOT The #1 Draft Pick?

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Жыл бұрын

We attempt to understand why on earth did so many teams pass on selecting the elite QB, Patrick Mahomes, in the 2017 NFL Draft.
Who were the teams that passed on taking Patrick Mahomes?
What was the logic in the front offices? What did they not see in who can be the next great quarterback that can proceed the GOAT himself, Tom Brady?
We will cover all of that in this video, and many more stories will come to our channel, so stay tuned.
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@brandoncomer6492
@brandoncomer6492 Жыл бұрын
Lets be real. Most of the armchair analyst “experts” thought the chiefs were reaching for Mahomes at 10
@thehalftimeshow
@thehalftimeshow Жыл бұрын
Solid point.
@cellgame9
@cellgame9 Жыл бұрын
He also went to TT not exactly a blue chip school. Plus the Big XII is a very week conference defensively so the biases were not in his favor.
@poindextertunes
@poindextertunes Жыл бұрын
@@cellgame9 and no one thought his style of play would translate well to the nfl. surprise muthafxckahs
@tudyvaldez4014
@tudyvaldez4014 9 ай бұрын
Im the only person i know that thought he should be nunber 1 overall.
@Klinginsmithj
@Klinginsmithj 3 ай бұрын
I’m one of those people. I was upset that we didn’t pick Watson. Dodged that bullet.
@joevorachack3791
@joevorachack3791 Жыл бұрын
Every team passed up on Kurt Warner and Tom Brady. It is not an exact science. As a Chief fan, Thank you Buffalo!
@court5231
@court5231 Жыл бұрын
❤️💛
@bluepyrotech
@bluepyrotech Жыл бұрын
And Rodgers and brees
@johnharris6655
@johnharris6655 Жыл бұрын
2 teams dumped Jim Plunkett.
@joshpisarek6948
@joshpisarek6948 Жыл бұрын
Your welcome for are 1st.
@msp5138
@msp5138 4 ай бұрын
In over 100 years of NFL football, you can only come up with 2 names?🤣😂🤣
@logisticalnonsense
@logisticalnonsense Жыл бұрын
Trading with the Bills of all teams to get Mahomes so ironic! Never knew thats how it went down😂
@jayB733
@jayB733 Жыл бұрын
I'd say it worked out well with us too tho we got tre white later and Allen with there first pick the next year
@logisticalnonsense
@logisticalnonsense Жыл бұрын
@@jayB733 Ya worked out real great. Bills get those 2 guys and chiefs get 2 superbowls championships / the best player in the league
@CharlieRogers50
@CharlieRogers50 9 ай бұрын
You never knew that because... you weren't old enough to care about the 2017 draft?
@logisticalnonsense
@logisticalnonsense 9 ай бұрын
@@CharlieRogers50 i just didnt follow the draft that close back then. I didnt use to watch college football so i had no idea who anyone was and the picks were irrelevant to me. But now i watch it all
@nomarxistspls90
@nomarxistspls90 2 ай бұрын
3 superbowls now :)@@logisticalnonsense
@Mik3yLow
@Mik3yLow Жыл бұрын
The #9 pick, John Ross, is now on our team too 😂
@richardlong7075
@richardlong7075 Жыл бұрын
He actually didn’t play his senior season at Texas Tech. He entered draft early.
@shaunzaarrae3727
@shaunzaarrae3727 Жыл бұрын
30 nfl teams would be willing to trade their next 10 first round picks for Mahomes
@marshalltaylor5780
@marshalltaylor5780 Жыл бұрын
As a sooner fan I always dreaded going up against Texas tech! The team that usually won the game had at least one defensive stop. But as a life long chiefs fan I freaking love this guy!!
@TheRealcdawg22
@TheRealcdawg22 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure you remember the shootout between Mahomes and Baker Mayfield in 2016. 125 points, What a game! I'm from OKC, lifetime Chiefs fan.
@carol-us4xn
@carol-us4xn Жыл бұрын
The teams that passed on him is still looking from the sidelines in awe. Never judge a nook by its cover. Now that they have witnessed the Mahomes factor, it changes everything.
@nopeteys2424
@nopeteys2424 Жыл бұрын
9:45 that throw still blows my mind every time i see it. Literally parallel to the ground and he throws it on a rope just above the outstretched finger tips of Devin White and it hits Darell Williams in the face mask. If Williams caught it that would be the greatest TD pass ever thrown i think, at least one of them.
@thehalftimeshow
@thehalftimeshow Жыл бұрын
Gotta agree with your take Brendan!
@tuckerkline4142
@tuckerkline4142 Жыл бұрын
Imagine Mahomes with a Chicago good defense in the cold with that rocket arm. Would’ve been best nfl team
@graceresendes5380
@graceresendes5380 Жыл бұрын
Man my life will never be the same
@logisticalnonsense
@logisticalnonsense Жыл бұрын
Y'all are confused. Patrick is the best of the best because his arm can do anything a coach asks him to do. He would have been elite regardless. Individual success would have been there eventually no matter what but i will say i absolutely agree it takes a good system for a team to win multiple superbowls no matter who the players on the team are.
@court5231
@court5231 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Thank you for your hard work! 🙂
@honkerh8r564
@honkerh8r564 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Chiefs fan and season ticket holder, and even I wasn't sure Mahomes was ready when he got the starting job. All these teams who passed on him have people on staff who analyze NFL talent and potential for a living, and have done it for decades. Mahomes was very raw and if anyone saw this coming, he would have been an absolute 1st overall pick. But sometimes stars come out of nowhere, and vice versa. So many NFL legends have come from deep in the draft, and so many 1st rounders have been total flops in the NFL. Mahomes might have been one of those flops if he hadn't had the opportunity to develop under Alex Smith. Throw him out there as the starter right away with a shit team, and he may have not been the player he is today.
@TheRealcdawg22
@TheRealcdawg22 Жыл бұрын
Alex Smith was great for us. He raised the floor of the whole organization. Mahomes is raising the ceiling.
@honkerh8r564
@honkerh8r564 Жыл бұрын
@@TheRealcdawg22 I always said Alex wasn't the problem. He obviously didn't have the arm talent or the ability to improvise Mahomes has, but he had the ability to throw down the field more than they allowed him to. Andy was stuck in that ultra conservative mindset with draws and screens. I think the "game manager" persona was more about the coaching and play calling than Alex's ability as a qb. I think Grbac got more heat in the 90's than he deserved, too. That was Marty ball. Of course, handing the ball to Priest Holmes is a good idea, but Elvis took the blame when the Chiefs couldn't get it done.
@thehalftimeshow
@thehalftimeshow Жыл бұрын
That context is absolutely relevant; thank you for contributing that point!
@TheRealcdawg22
@TheRealcdawg22 Жыл бұрын
@Honkerh8r Being a great quarterback takes more than just arm talent. I think Patrick learned all those other things sitting behind a true pro. What further endears Patrick Mahomes to me is that he still credits his development to his time with Alex Smith.
@choosecarefully408
@choosecarefully408 Жыл бұрын
Funny fact about us humans, males in particular. Multitasking doesn't come naturally to us until somewhere around our 23rd birthday. Until then, the voices screaming in our heads that "you're about to get sacked, _MOVE_ dammit" is too powerful to ignore no matter what any coach says, & while he was put into a game in 2017, Mahomes was born in September '95 & likely that mind-body connection clicked into place & he was ready. Peyton Manning is an excellent example of this. While not yet 23, around the mid-way point of his rookie year he simply starts playing like the HOF QB we know even though nothing outside changed. A lot of the bad habits Justin Fields has shown are likely a combo of this & the terrible o-line the Bears have. Zach Wilson literally mentally returns to the friendly memories of the combine. More NFL coaches need to be aware of this. Going in before this change takes place can really ruin a QB. I think this has a _LOT_ to do with Sam Darnold's play because he returns to the Bad Habits people build up in their heads when overwhelmed. So NFL games keep repeating the same pressures that caused those habits to form, & even he isn't aware of what he's doing but does it.
@TheRussianFloofCat
@TheRussianFloofCat Жыл бұрын
It's easy to say with hindsight that Mahomes should've gotten picked earlier. Its obvious to say now that Mahomes is an amazing player, that's undeniable. But at the time he's seen as a project quarterback, and he was a project quarterback. He had the luxury of sitting behind Alex Smith, another number one overall pick, and learn for a full season. The Chiefs also surrounded him with an great coaching staff to help him develop. I doubt he'd the same caliber of player if he was drafted into a different circumstance.
@christian6911
@christian6911 7 ай бұрын
He probably wouldn't be as good or as exciting without Andy Reid. The unorthodox style with pat belongs with the unorthodox plays of Andy.
@levy3970
@levy3970 7 ай бұрын
​@@christian6911 You guys are idiots,. Name the QB or Coach that developed Marino..unless ur saying Dan is Waaaay more talented to not need developing....You Can't Coach Talent.
@tracyjohnson3394
@tracyjohnson3394 2 ай бұрын
That could ALSO be said about TB12, who backed Drew Bledsoe in New England, and Aaron Rodgers, who sat 3 YEARS behind Brett Favre @ Green Bay! Seems to be a formula; like Steve Young sitting behind Joe Montana? Patrick is good company! It's not a new thing, at all. Credit those GMs and coaching staff! Mahomes is off to the fastest start of them all, coming into year 6.
@randythompson9400
@randythompson9400 2 ай бұрын
@@tracyjohnson3394 He's now coming into year 8. Year 7 as the starting QB.
@cousinyak1803
@cousinyak1803 Жыл бұрын
That was a damn good half time show. Almost made me understand the draft.
@Lancers262
@Lancers262 Жыл бұрын
I feel like staff that is in charge of college recruitment have one of the hardest jobs in the NFL. So many teams passed on a lot of talents that became pro bowlers.
@thehalftimeshow
@thehalftimeshow Жыл бұрын
Excellent point!
@penguinrea0088
@penguinrea0088 Жыл бұрын
Keep up your fantastic videos, God has Blessed you all
@davidcrime1555
@davidcrime1555 Жыл бұрын
Understand, Patrick is the Goat
@Juntao1989
@Juntao1989 Жыл бұрын
FACTS IDC IDC
@javongreen734
@javongreen734 Жыл бұрын
Brady
@bluehorseshoe444
@bluehorseshoe444 Жыл бұрын
Saints were waiting for Pat at 11... KC's move was epic
@godagon97
@godagon97 Жыл бұрын
Patrick "The Inevitable" Mahomes. 😤❤️💛❤️💛❤️‍🔥
@thehalftimeshow
@thehalftimeshow Жыл бұрын
Tough.
@kylehill3883
@kylehill3883 Жыл бұрын
Perfect video. Football fans need to understand the QB isn't everything. Look at Super Bowl 55. No tackles = No Touchdowns = No Ring in 2020. People take Mahomes and other great QBs for granted.
@madisenstubbs
@madisenstubbs Жыл бұрын
I think about this all the time... having seen his intangibles on the field at Tech, it shocked me when he didn't go #1 overall. but he ain't worried about it 😂🏆🏆💯
@kylehill3883
@kylehill3883 Жыл бұрын
Because in the Big 12 they don't play defense. He didn't play against the top defenses of the SEC or Big 10.
@JordanT3025
@JordanT3025 Жыл бұрын
He was also very raw mechanically and made poor decisions which plunged his stock.
@joshkt
@joshkt Жыл бұрын
He wasn’t a #1 overall talent at Tech. He was great, but so is everyone picked high. His development is unmatched sure, but to say you were shocked he didn’t go #1 just means you’re dumb. There were better at the time prospects in the draft above him. Myles Garrett went first, and even tho mahomes better cause of success, you can’t say Myles Garrett shouldn’t have been taken there cause he’s been a stud too
@Milanoprodzzz.58
@Milanoprodzzz.58 Жыл бұрын
The funny part is that was the bulls pick and a few years later the bulls are one of his rivals
@Milanoprodzzz.58
@Milanoprodzzz.58 Жыл бұрын
Bills*
@KCocteau15
@KCocteau15 Жыл бұрын
Face it , Reid and Veach know how to read between the lines with talent. They saw the diamond in the rocky exterior that every other coaching staff couldn’t. And they have built a HOF team.
@thehalftimeshow
@thehalftimeshow Жыл бұрын
You said it right! They are #1 for that reason.
@noaharkjr
@noaharkjr Жыл бұрын
Facts
@edjimenez7107
@edjimenez7107 Жыл бұрын
What people don’t realize is that PM went to the right place. Reid always has a great coaching staff. He probably changes a coach once in a while. That’s due because he lets them take other job opportunities if they want. Patrick is talented. But any QB in the right coaching situation will prosper. Look at the jets. That’s my team by the way. Coaching staff has never been our virtue. Rex was great. Now Saleh. Our owner is an impatient man. Even if had drafted Patrick, Josh,Lamar that would mean nothing. Reid is a QB 🧙‍♀️. Just keeping it real. Easy to speak after. But PM and coach Reid Marriage made in heaven. Working for them.
@derekchristeson5486
@derekchristeson5486 Жыл бұрын
The reason Mahomes wasn’t the first pick is his mechanics are not traditional and in college he threw a tons of picks. He was viewed as a project QB with a huge upside. Everyone expected him to be a gun slinger which he really hasn’t been. He also has the luxury of not having to start right away for a terrible team like most 1st over all QBs.
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 10 ай бұрын
He didn’t throw a ton of picks in college. His int % was actually quite low. That’s why it never made any sense when they called him a gunslinger. It’s like the scouts & talking heads saw his he played & assumed he threw a lot of picks, but no one actually checked the stats to make sure🤣 That was the kind of mindset that allowed the Chiefs to jump up & get him at 10.
@Mik3yLow
@Mik3yLow Жыл бұрын
Great video! New sub 😊
@thehalftimeshow
@thehalftimeshow Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @Michael D
@javimarulu4247
@javimarulu4247 Жыл бұрын
Ross now is in KC?
@thehalftimeshow
@thehalftimeshow Жыл бұрын
Correct, John Ross is in KC.
@codywaterman3612
@codywaterman3612 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@thehalftimeshow
@thehalftimeshow Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching!
@danielle3244
@danielle3244 Жыл бұрын
mahomes on 49ers would be so scary
@cowboy7170
@cowboy7170 9 ай бұрын
Niners also passed up Cooper Cupp and Christian McCaffrey.
@raleighsanford5111
@raleighsanford5111 4 ай бұрын
One thing I've learned over the years as a casual observer is that players who have a great JR season out of nowhere then go pro, have a high bust potential when drafted high. Of all the teams who passed on Mahomes, SF has to be the most frustrated. Their pick that year was a bust and they lost 2 SBs to Mahomes and the Chiefs. It wasn't just the 10 teams mentioned in the video who passed on him, others could have traded up for him like KC did. Here is the thing though, any team with Mahomes would be dominant, some would take longer to get there, but any team would get there. I don't blame anyone because you have to see Mahomes in multiple games to get an idea of just how good he is. Everyone is rewriting history to sound like they always knew. He was lightly recruited coming out of HS and Kingsbury didn't see his potential until an injury to Davis Webb got Mahomes on the field. Even then it took 6 games before Kingsbury saw the potential. That is not the story now, but that is the way it happened.
@MarkusfromH
@MarkusfromH 3 ай бұрын
Just looked up the 2017 Draft class. So many future Hall of Famers. Mahomes, Miles Garrett, McCaffrey, Kupp, Kamara, T.J.Watt, Marshawn Lattimore, Kittle. And in addition to the future HOFers you had many more talented players like Budda Baker, Rasul Douglas, Chris Godwin, Tre'Davius White, etc. What a Draft class!!!
@gregjohnson7270
@gregjohnson7270 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for providing the "backstory" of what happened on all of the selections before the Chiefs took Mahomes at #10. I heard that Bret Veach had been following his career at Texas Tech and liked what he saw and decided getting Mahomes would be the focus of that year's draft and it has paid off way beyond expectations and they're not done yet!
@johnbox271
@johnbox271 Жыл бұрын
Teams with poor evaluation skills as it relates to QBs, while Reid, Payton and Arians saw what he was and could be... others had no idea. Cleveland had the first pick, and I don't think there are many that would claim the Browns have had much success in evaluating and drafting QBs in recent memory.
@jamescampbell9533
@jamescampbell9533 Жыл бұрын
Most teams thought that big 12 qbs played gimmick football. They never had to face tough defenses and would be busts in the League.
@mattmccullough1093
@mattmccullough1093 10 ай бұрын
Andy is a football genius. A lot of people didn't understand when he Is drafted Patrick mahomes. But a lot of people don't understand people who are smart.
@its_marcel_
@its_marcel_ Жыл бұрын
The chiefs picking mahomes was an absolute blindside hit for EVERYONE!! Even for chiefs fans!! Not a single chiefs fan can say „I Knew they would pick Patrick mahomes“ it was an absolute bombshell nobody could’ve seen that coming. I wasn’t even sure if it would work out. I liked him in college but never ever would I have imagined he would explode like he did in KC.
@CHIEFHADOUKEN
@CHIEFHADOUKEN Жыл бұрын
Jon Gruden selected Mahomes, Watson and Trubisky to be Top 10. Mahomes was select @10.
@RogueDemagogue
@RogueDemagogue Жыл бұрын
John Ross is now a Chief, lol.
@Field_Marshall
@Field_Marshall Жыл бұрын
Very plain and simple he was a gun slinger at an average university like Texas Tech who was in an offense called the air raid offense. A non pro style offense that didn’t suit the NFL way of being a pro quarterback. And the scouts says air raid quarterbacks will not survive in the NFL.
@derekrau8236
@derekrau8236 Жыл бұрын
I will just never get over the Bears draft that year. Obviously Mitch wasn’t as bad as Jamarcus Russell or Ryan Leaf, but damn did that draft destroy the bears for almost a decade.
@thomasaquinas6628
@thomasaquinas6628 Жыл бұрын
Mahomes was drafted into an offense that was already sick with talent. Tyreek HIll, Travis Kelce, Kareem Hunt, not to mention Albert Wilson and Demarcus Robinson, OL MItchell Scwartz, Eric Fisher and Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, plus Matt Nagy and Big Red - Reid scripts plays no one else can and makes them work. That 2018 team was amazing, and lost a ticket to the SuperBowl by one foot in the neutral zone.
@arnulfoalvarez1743
@arnulfoalvarez1743 Жыл бұрын
He played the last regular game against Denver when he was a rookie with the second unit and brought them back to a win in the last minutes.
@wheelhouse15
@wheelhouse15 Жыл бұрын
When you see these retrospectives It almost seems like scouting and drafting is an inexact science.🤔 This is why I always get a kick out of seeing the analysts rate the draft picks in near real-time, you can never know how a college player will do in the NFL until they actually play in the NFL. I really do think we see a lot more of these QB misses because there seems to be a huge bias towards drafting defensive players these days.
@dmartig1
@dmartig1 Жыл бұрын
Mahomes was inaccurate in college. It helped that he was drafted by the greatest QB guru in the NFL.
@thehalftimeshow
@thehalftimeshow Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@mrsatangto
@mrsatangto Жыл бұрын
I doubt that Mahomes would have developed the way he did if he didn't end up under Andy Reid
@pazu8728
@pazu8728 Жыл бұрын
Yep, they will made him to throw the ball "the right way" or force him to be a "system qb" like a machine. We would not see any of the PM magic.
@trentlee6823
@trentlee6823 Жыл бұрын
@@pazu8728 lmfao tf u talking abt mahomes has thrown the same way since college
@thehalftimeshow
@thehalftimeshow Жыл бұрын
@Pazu - You have a point!
@UWalvern0810
@UWalvern0810 Жыл бұрын
@@pazu8728 I see your point. Other staffs would’ve probably tried to “coach” what makes him unique out of him. These guys tend to fear what they don’t understand/can’t completely control.
@choosecarefully408
@choosecarefully408 Жыл бұрын
@@trentlee6823 Yeah: but look at what the Cardinals are stupidly doing with Kyler Murray. Taking someone unconventional & forcing him to study plays designed for conventional QBs. There are *tons* of egotistical P_and_ inept coaches at the NFL level who are just there to boost their own egos by pushing people around, not working _with_ their players. Josh McDaniels, John Gruden, John "I would rather lose games than call effective passing plays" Harbaugh... cripes we even saw Matt Lafleur basically flip off Aaron Rodgers then stare uncomprehendingly down the field where the dimes Rodgers threw were dropped because Lafleur simply kept trying to will *"his* plays" into success. Bellichick with Mac Jones, literally hiring Matt Patricia to slow Jones progress because he was exceeding what Bill _wanted him_ to do. There are a _lot_ of coaches who would have tried to change Mahomes just to have something they could claim as theirs.
@abirodriguez2347
@abirodriguez2347 Жыл бұрын
Anyone know the name of the song or music? It’s so good
@kjhgfdsd76654
@kjhgfdsd76654 Жыл бұрын
The absurdity of both the Browns and Jets is mind boggling, considering who they had at QB at the time.
@thehalftimeshow
@thehalftimeshow Жыл бұрын
Totally!! There was huge favor bestowed on Pat for those teams passing on him.
@JordanT3025
@JordanT3025 Жыл бұрын
The browns picked Baker that draft with the #1 pick. Which baker won the heisman so it wasn’t absurd to take him at 1.
@kjhgfdsd76654
@kjhgfdsd76654 Жыл бұрын
@@JordanT3025 Baker was drafted the following year in 2018. This was 2017
@JordanT3025
@JordanT3025 Жыл бұрын
@@kjhgfdsd76654 your right I thought it was the same draft they took Garrett in 2017.
@dchenkin02
@dchenkin02 Жыл бұрын
Myles Garrett has developed into a future hall of famer as a defensive end. Not absurd to take the player least likely to be a bust with the first pick.
@JohnSmith-ls3um
@JohnSmith-ls3um Жыл бұрын
Mahomes wouldn’t have made it past 11. Sean Payton said the Saints would have taken him there. Can you imagine Mahomes learning from Payton while sitting behind Drew Brees? Interesting counter factual.
@thehalftimeshow
@thehalftimeshow Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@user-jr1jp3lx4r
@user-jr1jp3lx4r 2 ай бұрын
Films showed Patrick to be too unorthodox, unpredictable and while he had good qualities they felt it was a real gamble. One scout bet is career on drafting Patrick and he was right.
@timc5943
@timc5943 Жыл бұрын
NINERS NOTE! Niners were bottom of the league in both offense & defense. So drafting a QB with the 2nd pick was risky AND Kyle had just come from Washington and the possibility of adding Kirk Cousins on the free-agent market, along with an evaluation of the roster, ultimately steered the 49ers towards Thomas.
@thehalftimeshow
@thehalftimeshow Жыл бұрын
You must be a 49ers fan? We appreciate that context!
@BobectorGamesBobector
@BobectorGamesBobector Жыл бұрын
I'm not mad we skipped on Mahomes. Sure it sucks missed out on a player of that caliber. But at that time the niners were near bottom of the league. Mahomes would have been thrusted to start right away instead of sitting behind Alex for a year. Who knows if he would be as good without Reid. I'm just glad the niners are a good team even without picking mahomes
@dog-thebackwardgod
@dog-thebackwardgod Жыл бұрын
You pronounced Kelce correctly! You're the only one, besides me. Nicely done
@jenniferaceste8823
@jenniferaceste8823 Жыл бұрын
Travis himself said it can be pronounced either way.
@dog-thebackwardgod
@dog-thebackwardgod Жыл бұрын
@jennifer aceste AFTER he said the correct pronunciation is "kels". He was trying to be nice.
@jenniferaceste8823
@jenniferaceste8823 Жыл бұрын
@@dog-thebackwardgod He also talked about his Dad getting calls asking for Ed Kelc-e. I am uniquely familiar with the issue as my last name ends with an e also & people often assume the e is silent which it's not, in my case. Short A-c-short e-st-long e.
@dog-thebackwardgod
@dog-thebackwardgod Жыл бұрын
Damn, I was just trying to pay thr guy a compliment. I'll stfu
@jenniferaceste8823
@jenniferaceste8823 Жыл бұрын
@@dog-thebackwardgod Not tryna be mean, doG. Just giving u some perspective that may not have occurred to u is all. #HBTC
@alaskau9175
@alaskau9175 Жыл бұрын
The Chiefs defense "was strong"?? It was ranked 31 during Mahomes' first season as a starter.
@niccammell3513
@niccammell3513 9 ай бұрын
Anyone know the tune that comes in at 3:10? It's great
@Bork19
@Bork19 Жыл бұрын
I honestly don’t blame teams for missing on pat, he struggled with accuracy/consistency, had poor mechanics, and his team didn’t win in college. Teams value a qb that wins and questions leadership, character and work ethic when they don’t (cutler and Jeff George come to mind) The horrible miss in that draft was watson; duel threat qb, all the tools, and an obvious winner (he was successful in Houston with a hc/gm that made his job harder. Him being a terrible human didn’t show itself till later.
@arnulfoalvarez1743
@arnulfoalvarez1743 Жыл бұрын
His team didn’t win in college due to their terrible defense, and hardly any support on the offensive side.
@craigschultz9266
@craigschultz9266 Жыл бұрын
The reason is because I wasn't done coaching him to the heights he has risen too at this point in his career!!
@tedlee2861
@tedlee2861 Жыл бұрын
I jumped for jot that year. We picked him. Was praying he was still on. That board. Roll chiefs. Roll😆🏈👈👍
@jasonjordan3722
@jasonjordan3722 Жыл бұрын
Why was Patrick Mahomes not picked first? 2 words: Project QB. That is all you heard from analysts. Then he proceeded to get drafted, and hit the NFL like a defibrillator. As a Chiefs fan, thank you, Brett Veach. A lot of picks, teams still hit on, but they weren't PM15, that is for sure. Solomon Thomas, Christian McCaffrey, Jamal Adams and Of course Myles Garrett were not bad pick ups. In fact, that draft class was pretty stacked with talent.
@dchenkin02
@dchenkin02 Жыл бұрын
Mahomes sat his rookie year behind Alex Smith. Chiefs were a final eight team with Alex Smith while Mahomes was being developed.
@dephiler
@dephiler 3 ай бұрын
And 3 rings later...9 teams are kicking themselves in the ass
@larrybrown2481
@larrybrown2481 Жыл бұрын
Yet Brady got all the credit dispite have top 10 defense and came to a good patriots team..anyone remember the team he took over was headed to the playoffs....
@jessierodriguez7168
@jessierodriguez7168 Жыл бұрын
Teams that passed on him still suck enough said😂😂
@skylermiller3333
@skylermiller3333 Жыл бұрын
The bengals are easily a top 3 team tho…
@flyjah3x_840
@flyjah3x_840 Жыл бұрын
Because he was at Texas Tech which didn’t get any attention than Oklahoma where baker transferred from
@thehalftimeshow
@thehalftimeshow Жыл бұрын
Good point!
@chrissiler6075
@chrissiler6075 2 ай бұрын
Dallas has a big problem, they passed on the kid from Whitehall Texas. Jerry doesn't know talent!!! RIP 15X3 times
@wackapotamus
@wackapotamus Жыл бұрын
That bears trade was dreadful
@darrenchen2668
@darrenchen2668 Жыл бұрын
I think it was because myles garrett who was selected 1st overall by Cleveland was through to be a generational talent by Cleveland and in the combine you generally don't see no look passes or scrambling ability which is why people like Mahomes, Lamar and Rodgers dropped in the draft
@jimakin3541
@jimakin3541 Жыл бұрын
He played for Texas Tech is why he wasn't the number one pick.
@Lightgreen57
@Lightgreen57 Жыл бұрын
Remember, mahomes was a boom or bust prospect, and if he had gone to the browns or bears, he probably would have been a bust.
@jonsmith4876
@jonsmith4876 Жыл бұрын
He was good coming out of college but if he went to any other team he would not be as good as he is now Andy Reid has a lot to do with how good he is
@thehalftimeshow
@thehalftimeshow Жыл бұрын
Agreed except there are a few teams that he could have done well with.
@bertsausse2128
@bertsausse2128 Жыл бұрын
Can you imagine if Buffalo decided not to make the trade and picked someone else? Mahomes was heading to New Orleans with the next pick and would have been teamed with Sean Payton.
@thehalftimeshow
@thehalftimeshow Жыл бұрын
That pairing would've been something special too.
@edthompson2099
@edthompson2099 Ай бұрын
I'm more of a Chiefs fan than I am a San Fransisco fan, but Brock Purdy, as a true Mr. Irrelevant (Final Pick of the NFL Draft for his year) pushed KC to require a Super Bowl OT and played a damn good game himself. The biggest play of the second half was a KC punt that hit the foot of a SF blocker and was recovered by Kansas City- So not exactly Purdy's fault or Mahome's quarterbacking skill. And thats not to take anything away from Mahomes either, he WAS clutch when he needed to be at the end of the 4th quarter and during KC's OT possession. KC went for, and made, 2 OT 4th downs. San Fransisco kicked a field goal on their OT 4th from inside the KC 10 yard line. And the winning difference was that KC touchdown vs. the San Fran field goal. I don't know how many coaches would NOT kick a field goal to take the lead in an OT, especially when you have (and really DO have) a champion grade defense.
@thehalftimeshow
@thehalftimeshow Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing Ed. You should watch our $1m vs $50 million QB video on our channel.
@CharlieRogers50
@CharlieRogers50 9 ай бұрын
Hindsight is 20/20. He was not a surefire prospect whatsoever, and frankly if he didn't land with the Chiefs he may not have become who he is today. Unprecedented talent met unprecedentedly perfect circumstances.
@markcecoash
@markcecoash Жыл бұрын
This dude I can tell… Narrated The Sandlot as Adult Scott Smalls
@javimarulu4247
@javimarulu4247 Жыл бұрын
49s 😂😂😂 Didnt see him
@mikaahkana160
@mikaahkana160 Жыл бұрын
In the last 25 years The bears trading up one spot is possibly the worst trade and selection ever right? At least rg3 had one good year. Took away Andrew lucks rookie of the year trophy for sure. Ran away literally.
@rpsnider85
@rpsnider85 4 ай бұрын
It's almost a mirror of teams missing on Mike Trout. Who, without the arrival of Shohei Ohtani taking over the best ever player title, was the best baseball player to ever play the game...dont bother harping about historic players like Ted Williams and Mickey Mantle....they never faced pitching like todays guys do. Trout was that once in a lifetime talent and everyone missed...even the Angels. Then came Shohei who is somehow even better than Trout.... nuts.
@thehalftimeshow
@thehalftimeshow 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your perspective, I don’t have a strong baseball background.
@daniellepearsall4978
@daniellepearsall4978 Жыл бұрын
How many of these other teams IF they had drafted Mahomes, would have given him a year to study behind a darn good (tho not elite) QB to learn instead of just throwing him to the wolves? He would have been good anyway, but he would not have hit his potential under any of these other teams like he has under Reid and with the year of study behind Alex Smith.
@kennyhiggins7806
@kennyhiggins7806 11 ай бұрын
Whenever I see “Acho” on his show, and if he mentions Mahomes MVP, he Always makes it a point to remind everyone that P.M. was Not a unanimous MVP selection. And also that Lamar Jackson was a unanimous voted MVP selection!! Is there any difference between the 2 MVP titles? It sounds like Acho thinks so!!!
@glennwashing
@glennwashing 10 ай бұрын
Number 1, they didn't recognize GREATNESS. Number 2, they didn't like his mechanics and Texas Gunslinger attitude. Funny how everything they didn't like about Mahomes is what makes him GREAT!!! I LOVE it!!!!
@thehalftimeshow
@thehalftimeshow 10 ай бұрын
I like it. Thank you for your take Glenn.
@ralphnyquist7873
@ralphnyquist7873 3 ай бұрын
You had me right up to the point that you said.....Mahomes wasn't the only one to get team to SB. I realize like all the rest of these so-called experts.....you had no idea what is going on with the Chiefs.
@thehalftimeshow
@thehalftimeshow 2 ай бұрын
This year Mahomes single handedly led his team to the SB. He had a lot of help his first two. Andy Reid deserves half the credit as well. Not sure why you’re bothered with an older video.
@kylehill3883
@kylehill3883 Жыл бұрын
But is Mahomes the player we know today if he doesn't go to KC? Definitely not if he goes 1st. Where a QB goes is important.
@DavidStevenson-yh8sb
@DavidStevenson-yh8sb Жыл бұрын
I hope Patrick Mahomes surpasses Tom Brady 😀
@berighteous
@berighteous 10 ай бұрын
Everybody knows why he wasn't #1 - the teams can't predict the future. Brady, Rodgers, Brees, etc were not drafted first, and they're all going to the HOF.
@alonzojennings2172
@alonzojennings2172 7 ай бұрын
Mahomes would have been lethal with the 9ers🙄
@jrsands
@jrsands Жыл бұрын
“Environment matters”. That’s why the Chargers fired Joe Lombardi & hired Kellen Moore.
@thehalftimeshow
@thehalftimeshow Жыл бұрын
Not sure if that was a rock or a compliment towards the bolts, but that made me laugh.
@AnAccount
@AnAccount Жыл бұрын
I thought Mahomes would be a bust. Boy was I wrong
@DavidStevenson-yh8sb
@DavidStevenson-yh8sb Жыл бұрын
Good for you admitting it
@batmangummies5393
@batmangummies5393 Жыл бұрын
How about them chiefs
@norsuist
@norsuist Жыл бұрын
Tbh Patty needed KC, Reid and Alex Smith to flourish If he landed on browns or bears etc he would most likely have been talent wasted
@thehalftimeshow
@thehalftimeshow Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. Facts.
@ninomorales7845
@ninomorales7845 Жыл бұрын
It works both ways. Look at the Patriots now. You need a unique talent to be great. Coaches don't play.
@norsuist
@norsuist Жыл бұрын
@@ninomorales7845 yes of course but belichick is a defensive minded hc Tom was always having the temper tantrums with the offence playcallers not Belichick Reid on the other hand is an offensive genius, just look at the plays he and Bieniemy wrote to mahomes and the offense in the superbowl and other games aswell I'd say atleast 40% of Mahomes success is because he landed with the chiefs and Andy Reid He was quite a rough prospect and got to the perfect team Sorry for the long post
@luc-rikardofils6673
@luc-rikardofils6673 Жыл бұрын
Maybe I’m too optimistic, but something tells me he would’ve be about as successful in Chicago as he is now. Best predictor would be that the same guy who is his OC now was the Bears head coach then.
@choosecarefully408
@choosecarefully408 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. If _Shanahan_ was his HC, we'd see 25 TDs at best from Mahomes. No one seems to realize this yet, but 1) Shanahan has a losing record in games not started by Jimmy Garoppolo, & 2) He *_still coaches football_* like he thinks it's hockey: as if his team can't both play defense if they continue playing offense. He *always* shuts down all offensive effort in the second half. It's consistent. So *part* of the magic at least is the (unintentionally?) weaker defense in KC.
@lastbestplace8112
@lastbestplace8112 Жыл бұрын
Kelc E...durr
@asdfjkl5713
@asdfjkl5713 Жыл бұрын
I love all the post-hoc experts.
@Crutchcollectibles
@Crutchcollectibles Жыл бұрын
Mahomes is the 🐐
@DavidStevenson-yh8sb
@DavidStevenson-yh8sb Жыл бұрын
YES
@ayadali9112
@ayadali9112 11 ай бұрын
You may as well ask this about other quarterbacks like Tom Brady himself since he’s in the description of this video.
@kithowell6217
@kithowell6217 Жыл бұрын
❤️💛😍🔥I hope so 😍💛❤️💛❤️💛❤️💛❤️
@rool7956
@rool7956 11 ай бұрын
Shanahan ans Mahomes would have been scary, especially now when NFC is so weak and 49ers having a top defense
@aydenbarlow4042
@aydenbarlow4042 Жыл бұрын
If I was the jets GM things would be so much better
@ektran4205
@ektran4205 Жыл бұрын
mahomes going to kc was the perfect situation for him
@jenniferaceste8823
@jenniferaceste8823 Жыл бұрын
If u listened to his appearance on the New Heights podcast, he pretty much drafted himself to the Chiefs.
@johnusher2331
@johnusher2331 Жыл бұрын
And Pacheco was takin in the 7 round
@Anthony-yu5yz
@Anthony-yu5yz 10 ай бұрын
The other teams gambled and lost. And the Chiefs moved up to draft him.
@philwilis789
@philwilis789 Жыл бұрын
“Most fans and media” did not believe that the tyreek trade would expose mahomes
@charlesn787
@charlesn787 8 ай бұрын
Poor Raiders, now they gonna lose every game to their rivalry against the Chiefs.
@001Tdog
@001Tdog Жыл бұрын
Some teams has other needs and you just cant tell how well any college player will do at a professional level so why are there still talks about this? He still went Top 10 so he was already regarded as a top prospect already..
@redeemedrascal
@redeemedrascal Жыл бұрын
You can tell how this video is made by a raiders fan 🙄
@thehalftimeshow
@thehalftimeshow Жыл бұрын
By saying the 49ers passed on Mahomes?
@justjoshin6180
@justjoshin6180 Жыл бұрын
@House of Gello stop hating
@adriangalvan7872
@adriangalvan7872 Жыл бұрын
He’s right though 😂😂
@iecasper
@iecasper Жыл бұрын
​@@justjoshin6180 House of the setting sun now.
@BlueCheeseCrumbles
@BlueCheeseCrumbles Жыл бұрын
He's clearly a 9ers fan. Do you have zero understanding of the fact that raiders fans hate the 9ers?
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