Why We Left BuzzFeed | Kitchen & Jorn

[@miapia9144]

We never supported Buzzfeed, it was you guys who we supported

[@keptins]

Whom*

[@keptins]

@@rhpinkpop96 "that" also works.

[@aliaatef662]

@@keptins doesn't matter.

[@rfrprof09]

facts

[@radiyhakhatun1041]

@@keptins shut up

[@bobothefool3909]

the fact that so many people who basically carried buzzfeed had to leave is concerning like huge red flags?

[@jeywithluv8793]

Rightttt

[@SecondEvilEx]

I heard they're limited to collaborating with only buzzfeed channels

[@eps3154]

I wish they were allowed to name names... who are the problematic executives? How can fans ask for accountability if they have no clue who is responsible. What can you do? Glad they got out...

[@morajoseph4691]

safia nygard (probably spelt it wrong) was the biggest red flag .

[@prisonmike4592]

I stg if Shane and Ryan leave-- I don't know what I'll do

[@Paintergrl1313]

When a company uses the “we’re family”when you are miserable, that’s a red flag.

[@C00kii0]

Yup

[@bboombayah4662]

that's some emotional manipulation shit right here

[@nixfarrik6214]

I remember feeling this.

[@katten39]

I dont know if you watch wisecrack, but they did a video about the "dark side" of Michael Scott that talks about this. Also yeah, my shittiest jobs had that mentality lol

[@MetalYogurt]

THE MEME

[@kaceykace]

What bothers me is I've watched so many of these "why i left buzzfeed" type videos about how terrible a company it was and how overworked everyone is, and yet when I was younger watching those buzzfeed videos I remember being like "wow I want to work in a place like buzzfeed" because everyone made it look so fun.

[@tsu8229]

same

[@titheproven954]

It is kind of sad if you think about it though. That the goal in life is to just find a job that doesn't seem like it suck. That just being happy for the majority of your day and working with friends if the attractive part of a job.

[@MariaBelova]

So true

[@coleowl31]

foreal! I just saw a job I wanted to go for but these videos remind me of the truth behind the brand

[@virgie4715]

I used to think the exact same thing, but if you go back now and watch videos as they’re walking thru offices or work stations most people there look absolutely miserable until they realize the camera is around. Some don’t even care then.

[@sadwhitewolf]

I left my toxic job last year, my husband's response was "Good, I want my wife back" because the truth was, I wasn't me anymore.

[@mistyyates1764]

❤️

[@ivyrasmussen9502]

Good job!!

[@zorayvonee]

so sweet

[@complicatedroach5032]

Proud of you ❤

[@yessitscece]

I was in a toxic job environment for all of about 38 days.. because of these videos and people sharing their stories I was able to flag my irritability and anxiety right away. Got fired from that job - but honestly? I feel so much relief because if I had continued that position, I would've definitely been fatigued.

[@ezmatuvz]

Honestly, buzzfeed is the type of kid who says "I'm not homophobic, I have gay friends".

[@jess1033919]

Or the "I can't be racist! I know like, 3 black people!" types of people.

[@gaiita]

@@jess1033919 “Im not racist my cousins daughters friends dog is black”

[@loladoee]

this is literally all their videos trying to be "woke"

[@loladoee]

I'm not homophobic guys!! my uncle's hamster is pan!!!!!!!!

[@ezmatuvz]

"Oh you're left handed? My cousin's best friend is left handed too!"

[@anniixa]

I feel like Buzzfeed is this weird cult that occasionally people escape from and tell their story

[@user-nk2yn2hh6h]

its exactly like scientology lol

[@thebandaid3435]

Add Disney too :P

[@emilliebornelus2958]

like that show escaping polygamy

[@dramaticmango9044]

buzzfeed is internet scientology.

[@m0L3ify]

And, oddly, some of the fan-made FB groups turn into weird cults, too.

[@daneaspeaks6499]

I’ve never heard a “Why I Left” with this much detail. It’s crazy because it makes so much sense. I never realized how overworked you guys were

[@MsVorpalBlade]

It's brilliant because they're voicing so much of what makes working for media and entertainment so problematic

[@annar220]

Ik bc that's a common problem everyone says

[@Ayveh]

I rarely watch Buzzfeed videos but I remember hearing about them being overworked a lot a while back while they were about to fall. I remember they used to get plenty of views and just right now when I searched them up right now they barely had views.

[@sarahkinsey5434]

It makes sense, looking at how many videos they made a day/week. Some were more in depth while others weren't, but it still takes time to shoot and edit.

[@Emma-ry9wm]

Buzzfeed low key sounding like a cult, put your people on a treadmill at the highest speed and wait for them to crumble, and then call it a family and a friendly environment

[@Katielovegood44]

Seems very much the treadmill scenario. I say that watching a fair few of these ‘why I left buzzfeed’ they seem too restricted with creativity and pushed too hard.

[@silversterling6183]

starbucks lol

[@stephaniewhorley8439]

Thank you for telling your stories about company culture. I experienced similar mental turned into physical situations with the industry I was in. I now make half the money doing what some people may think is a menial job but I'm happier ! You ladies live your best lives. Xoxo

[@thepresence365]

A lot of companies that throw out words like "driven," "creative," "team-oriented," "fun," etc., are looking for idealistic people to exploit.

[@silversterling6183]

@@thepresence365 exactly. we are machines to break

[@keyuhn8832]

The straight up fact that they were a part of one of the biggest things of buzzfeed and they still had like 2000 dollars in their accounts shows how buzzfeed treats their employees

[@savannahschmoldt7770]

I’m sure that their travel and places they stayed during the empty suitcase show were out of pocket. FUCK BUZZFEED

[@ConcreteAngelx3]

Yeah I was thinking that too... or she was living outside her means?

[@MsAstroBanan]

@@ConcreteAngelx3 how out of ones means does someone have to live to have 2k as a grown adult. Come on

[@halensav]

@@MsAstroBanan that's a really ignorant and unnecessary judgment.

[@OverHaluyu]

@@ConcreteAngelx3 If you're not partnered up or splitting rent/mortgage, I honestly don't know how people can survive. The rent is too damn high. The tax is too damn high. I save up 1/4th of my check for safety net. My boyfriend on the other hand can't afford to after all the Bill's are split and usually breaks even.

[@randomhuman1198]

When theres this many "why I left buzzfeed" videos it genuinly makes me a bit worried for the people still there

[@okthanks4792]

Pretty much all major companies have hundreds or thousands of people who have quit and have a huge list of justifiable reasons why. Buzzfeed just happens to get the most visibility cause it’s a company full of media people, video producers, and people with fans and platforms

[@randomhuman1198]

@@okthanks4792 yeah

[@daphodill101flower2]

me too. (this is off topic but when I saw your profile pic it made me happy cuz Matthias.)

[@randomhuman1198]

@@daphodill101flower2 hahhaha yessss

[@jay-ts8ux]

Also because as they said, “it’s a privilege to be able to quit my job”

[@katrinashaw2195]

The fact that the American bar is so low that people think “ you have health insurance, why are you complaining” thoughts from a canada who has not had to be scared of that, so not right

[@rachelmartinez5604]

I remember my friend being laughed at by his boss when asking for health insurance during his annual review at an architecture firm. I also got a laugh when interviewing with an architecture firm in NYC when I asked "does your office have a healthcare plan?"

[@MxPandamonium]

Unfortunately we incur costs elsewhere. Dental, eye care, mental and physical therapy. It's better here for sure, but it's far from perfect.

[@dufgirl]

Oh, and if we switch jobs, there is usually a 90 day period before the new insurance begins.

[@katrinashaw2195]

@@dufgirl that makes sense cause people totally control when they get sick *sarcasm*

[@chancewill6910]

My friend and I plan to move to Canada when we graduate. Free healthcare, no politics. What could be better than that?

[@SwingMyHips]

The reality that this company gave Kristin anxiety to the point of panic attacks and agoraphobia??? Holy shit.

[@reoij]

What's agoraphobia?

[@SwingMyHips]

@@reoij Agoraphobia is the "fear of places and situations that might cause panic, helplessness, or embarrassment." "Agoraphobia is an anxiety disorder that often develops after one or more panic attacks."

[@donnagelina8548]

@@reoij In laymen's terms it causes you to be terrified to leave your home.

[@DarthFurie]

Yes that is really disturbing, I had severe panic attacks that led to agoraphobia and I almost lost my job and relationships but I didn't even care because I didn't want to be alive most days. IT IS HELL. I wish so much love, light, recovery, joy, and peace to anyone going through panic disorder or severe anxiety.

[@michelleg2735]

Just because other people are going through something “worse” than you doesn’t mean your pain is invalid.

[@jenniferbates2811]

So true!! All emotions are valid. It's ok to be in pain.

[@nnjddr]

💯

[@Splintz246]

I totally agree I don't know what I was watching but I had made a comment that included some traumatic things that I endured in my past and it's left me a little messed up and I now have professional help as well as medication to help deal with this and I told my story and people were like well went through this you know and mine was worse so basically your story or what you been through wasn't that bad so stop making a big deal out of it I'm like it's not a competition I wasn't saying my situation was worse than yours I'm just saying what I went through was traumatic for me and that person's situation I felt bad for him I told them I said I'm sorry you went through that but I'm not making a competition out of traumatic events for people on this comment thread. I wish people could just be kind to others it would solve so much in the world

[@sarahchandler2035]

I love this saying! I was going through the worst thing a parent can go through this last year and my friends would be too afraid to vent to me because "their problems weren't as big as mine" and that's not what friendship is. Just because your not going through as awful of a time doesn't mean it isn't awful, it doesn't mean your not stressed.

[@ringstaystingray]

This is something I wish everyone knows

[@ChristinaVVM]

I’m 45 and I think one of the wisest things I ever heard is “just because he has a broken leg doesn’t mean your broken finger doesn’t hurt”. Sure. There is ALWAYS someone worse off but it doesn’t mean your struggle doesn’t exist. Take care of yourselves!

[@too_tired_for_this]

Exactly!

[@shannonbrown2392]

This is such an important thing to remember (and actually live by). Before the pandemic, I would start driving to work at 6:30, sometimes as early as 6:15. I live half and hour away from my job and my contracted hours don't start until 8 a.m. It was killing me. Working from home was honestly a life saver and has helped me realized that I was slowly twisting myself into someone who wasn't myself just for my job. But I was convinced that [because I don't have kids, because I don't have family nearby, because I'm not ill, because I love my job], I could just keep going and going and going. I still haven't taken a day off since July. Hopefully that's something I'll be able to do after the holidays.

[@AshLoRo]

@Christina Thank you! Alot of people needed to hear this. Thank you, Genuienly. You helped my day.

[@alexisb.8965]

I am 30 and I just learned this lesson. It's SO true. ❤️

[@KylaFuller]

I had to get in the mindset that someone else’s struggle does not devalue my struggle. Everyone has a different threshold and if it’s too much for me then it’s too much. I also had to get out the habit of comparing current me to old me who could handle all the shit.

[@luqicharmz]

Your story describes corporate America perfectly. Most of my colleagues are medicated and we joke about how we’re drowning daily but should be thankful to be employed. People leave and their positions are eliminated with the work spreading among the rest of the team.

[@elliamaris]

yep their stories describe EXACTLY how my dad feels working at this company he despises. It's literally jeopardizing his mental and physical health yet he feels obligated to stay in that damn job :(

[@ebonybelt6050]

As a person who works for a corporation this hit me hard because I tried to take a two week mental health break and was told I couldn't because it was right next to a "peak time" for my job. I was able to get five days but literally had a mental breakdown during that "peak time". Thankfully we got a new hr person but it's still a constant struggle

[@clairehodgson621]

Not just America. Corporate in general. Sadly.

[@raapyna8544]

@@ebonybelt6050 "human resouces management" is really just a way to make people a source of extraction. I think this company was exploiting its workers' guilt over 'other people are suffering', and that's horrible, because that's not their fault (that's unchecked capitalism's fault, same as caused their suffering) 'I'm so privileged because I could be suffering more' is such a manipulative and American coulture thing. You take for granted that you could be suffering immensely and your fellow citizens are. Even things that Europeans think are basic dignities, like having a work-life-balance and paid built-in holidays and paid sick-leaves. Someone here defended 'recognizing your privilege' and I agree it's important to mention occasionally but at the same time I see here on this video guilt for complaining about their own needs. Which is not the same as recognising privilege. It's guilt-tripping yourself like your boss guilt-tripped you. I think Buzzfeed is exploiting 'diverse' employees psychologically in that way, that 'little kids looking up to you, because you give them representation that's so important' and that makes you not want to leave, among other things, even if you're treated like shit, and not like a human.

[@certified_mandy]

Working @ Disneyland

[@stephaniewise1872]

“Being able to quit your job is a privilege” Man .... you hit that on the head 🤦‍♀️

[@mikayla7260]

Anyone can leave a job it’s more of “being able to quit your job comfortably is a privilege” too much miscommunication

[@annnoying5513]

Isn't that a really toxic way to frame it though, honestly? Yeah other's might not be in that position so I have to feel bad when I leave a toxic enviroment? What is that achieving? It just builts up this constant guilt for people that try to better their lives or will even prevent people from changing their lives for the better to avoid the guilt. Either way safe road towards depression. Extremely unhealthy.

[@tessaelto1472]

@@annnoying5513 just because they said something is a privilege doesn’t mean you have to feel bad about it. No one is asking you or expecting you to feel bad because you can comfortably quit your job. It’s just true that it’s a privilege for someone to be able to quit their job.

[@tessaelto1472]

@@annnoying5513 Givin me “I don’t have white privilege! I grew up poor!” vibes

[@CeruleanStar]

@@annnoying5513 The problem is that the statement is true. Not everyone has the ability to leave their jobs. People need healthcare, shelter, food, etc for themselves and their families. People need money to survive, and if your job is your only way to receive the money you need, quitting it is not always feasible, and is oftentimes nearly impossible to do and still survive. But it's the very fact that this statement is true that makes it so easy to be used in a toxic way. It sounds right, so it can easily be used as a form of manipulation to keep people in bad situations. This manipulation isn't always blatant. It can be planted with small seeds over a long period of time and can be very hard to catch. This type of toxic mindset is used far too often in many different ways. It is an extremely easy form of manipulation. Easy enough that people don't always realize when they are using it, whether against others or themselves. The thing about this toxic mindset, however, is that it is based on false logic. One person's pain is not invalidated by the pain of others. Pain is not a competition. Even if it were (which it isn't, but just for argument's sake) there are far to many variables to make any comparison between people's pain logically sound. An accurate comparison simply can't be made. So, as you said, a person should never feel bad for trying to better their situation if they have the means to do so. The fact that others may have it worse is never reason to willingly keep yourself in a toxic situation. It can just be very hard to realize that when you have been manipulated to believe otherwise.

[@kholl2285]

People MUST remember that it’s called “work” not “struggle”. When you are struggling against your own sanity, please know you don’t deserve that, that isn’t what a job, relationship, etc should be.

[@paigehodgkiss9607]

Oooft I perhaps needed to read this more than I realised thank you! Xoxo

[@Elliecharlie]

Wow, you are so right!

[@nnjddr]

Legit screenshot this

[@emaezing]

this comment was SO eye opening to me. wow thank you

[@lotusgrl444]

I left a TOXIC job because it became exactly that, a daily STRUGGLE..I would get panic attacks on Sundays just thinking of the week ahead...your comment encapsulates 100% what work SHOULDN'T BE

[@oliviadodge4612]

All corporations use “were a family” to ask unrealistic and unethical tasks of its lower, physical labourers.

[@natkatmac]

Hell, even actual family members that say "We're family" before asking something of you are ones to watch out for.

[@Theturtleowl]

Yes, a 'family', until the top feels that you do not contribute enough to their finances.

[@leila1662]

💯

[@sapphire4465]

Mhhmm

[@kayseacamp]

Exactly. It’s toxic manipulation.

[@rachelk4805]

"I'm lucky I still have a job" sounds like an abused woman who is just grateful to have a "partner."

[@BrittanyIttany]

In our society sadly thats reality. 😔 You gotta push all of the bad aside because you got mouths to feed or bills to pay. Not many people have the gumption or energy to look for other work and get mental state under control. Were all working to die-

[@corinneskitchen]

That's capitalism for ya

[@sugabatzpizu5725]

Yup 👍🏽 work culture is toxic as hell.

[@tomaszwalkow6323]

Well if people call greenpace once they saw you at the beach maybe you should #free the whales

[@tomaszwalkow6323]

@@BrittanyIttany gender study didnt pay off, weird

[@imacoolcuz93]

To be completely honest, I could tell throughout the years that Jen wasn't having as much fun at BuzzFeed. She was starting to look less happy and less enthusiastic in her later videos.

[@MostlyMom]

At 25:05 when Jen starts talking about how she felt she was becoming a bad person, I FELT that so deeply. I was on the path towards adopting my two children after so many struggles and yet because of my job I just kept feeling more resentful, bitter, and self-loathing. A bad work environment totally changes how you feel on the inside and it eventually shows on the outside. 😢

[@cutlery9831]

Yeah, i only ever watched one episode of ladylike, and it was the greek episode. I had to click away because she was clearly not having a good time at all and it hurt to watch.

[@midorishiwa]

I agree, I feel like the Ladylike crew should have left all together like the TryGuys when Saf left, I think Saf left before all hell got lose, and she's got a crazy successful channel. I'm glad Jen and Kristen have started a channel together, and they're back to being their happy bubbly selves. Now we just need to have an ex-Ladylike collab!

[@annieferrell6824]

Honestly I even noticed it in this video while Kristen kept interrupting her. And when Kristen spent most of the time talking I noticed Jen seems very uncomfortable.

[@isalewis722]

Anyone remember the video where she refurbished a knife? That was the moment for me

[@kathrynhilman771]

As a non-American, the fact that having health insurance is considered "privilege" truly breaks my heart

[@jenniferbates2811]

As an American, it is. It's so disheartening to know that my health is based on money.

[@JJuliana.R]

@Don K Unfortunately, you end up owing the government money. It's basically a loan to pay for your insurance and you'll have to pay it back when tax time comes. 😥

[@zehlua]

Hi, yes, we're suffering quite a lot in this country

[@JJuliana.R]

@Don K I don't remember if they charge you the full amount or if it's just a percentage (it's been a few years since I've had to use the tax credit) but I would definitely do some research so you can be prepared. I'm sorry our government sucks so bad 😣

[@Stazib98]

It truly is a privilege. My dad has had something truly wrong with his hip/leg/something in that area for over a year and can’t afford to do anything about it cuz no job and he gonna get it looked at tomorrow cuz he 65 and can get old person healthcare now.

[@TheSarahLindy]

“I’m here... but I’m not happy... and I have $2k in my bank, so it’s not like I can just leave”... you’ve just described most of my adult working life.

[@lorensolomon1419]

"Most adults working lives" .... Reality in any form of that is upsetting. 2k in a coastal state vs a Midwest or western state... It's a huge difference

[@beccachien5915]

i think its CRAZY how little they paid you, i thought buzzfeed creators made so much money

[@-Bloomingtales]

Mine too.

[@VeralidaineWerynsra]

Mine too

[@akiramado9198]

Lol ive never had 2k in my account. Thats most peoples adult experience.

[@isobelorion4206]

the way that jen looks at kristin with so much empathy and affection is the kind of frienship and support i aspire to have

[@JenniferBrigitteOpticalVortex]

They love each other so much

[@sarabethsteckerl7518]

Y’all straight up are describing an abusive relationship. They were gaslighting you SO hard.

[@MandieZangora]

I was literally just about to say this!!!!

[@yowhazup9928]

Whats gaslighting? ( i genuinely dont know)

[@laressawinters1448]

@@yowhazup9928 it’s when someone manipulates a person by making them question their thoughts/memories/ the events that take place around them. Like making you question/doubt your own version of reality

[@strawberryshortcake1945]

@@yowhazup9928 it’s a way of manipulating people I think. Like if someone threw something at you and when you tried to confront them about it, they denied it and made you feel crazy for it, does that make sense?

[@yowhazup9928]

@Laressa Winters & Strawberry shortcake, oOo thank you guys 💞

[@ItsKassidyLove]

Do I need an OG Ladylike reunion with Jen, Kristin, Devin, Chantel, Freddie and Safiya? Why yes, yes I do. (If everyone feels comfortable of course)

[@rosie7702]

FREDDIEEEEE she mah fav

[@shaelynnthompson5812]

This!

[@arianakeller1210]

They have some KZbin videos together (pre Christmas)!

[@arianakeller1210]

It’s the untitled lady show!

[@Barbieminkz]

@Leona Morrissey how comes

[@LL-pf8nn]

The only reason I stayed watching watching BuzzFeed after the try guys this is because of these ladies

[@GreenEggsAndPam16]

I found Buzzfeed through Ladylike and Try Guys, and they were the only channel I'd watch. I still love The Try Guys and Ladylike, and I hope that all of them will continue to thrive.

[@joannegermishuys94]

I still watch unsolved 🤓

[@tamaragollrad]

SAME

[@Eileen_Lola]

I hope a ladylike reunion happens!

[@MossySaturn]

Same

[@aadvika3476]

YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT MOST OF LADYLIKE HAS LEFT BUZZFEED? SAFIYA, KRISTEN, DEVON, JEN, CANDACE, CHANTEL??!?

[@arielyounger1513]

AND all the try guys!!!

[@emmaanderson4732]

@@arielyounger1513 really???

[@elismith1307]

@@emmaanderson4732 yes???? did u miss that whole thing??

[@allisonmb1930]

@@emmaanderson4732 years ago. They have their own company now.

[@Gingersnaappp]

@@allisonmb1930 I had no idea! I immediately wondered about their situation as I watched this video...I feel relieved that they are independent now.

[@IllusionsChan]

Honestly seeing Kristen belly-laugh so hard is the best part about this because it sounds like she's in a much better place that she can laugh like that again

[@violetstern5805]

Companies saying "we give you healthcare, and a check and you should be so greatful" while over working employees is the same as "but at least he doesn't hit you"

[@I2345-t9e]

The thought that getting health insurance by the employer is supposed to be a “bonus” sounds really scary now that I think about it. It’s never crossed my mind before, how dependent it can make the employee, when beside everything else they have to consider before quitting they have to even think about how to stay insured without the company.

[@earthywanders6760]

The only reason I stayed at my previous job was because I couldn’t afford to lose my healthcare. Paying for healthcare through your employer is a trap to keep you working hard for them.

[@emilymacdougall184]

What also bothers me is that opportunities for career advancement/promotions/etc should also be a bare minimum. And health and happiness! We live in one of the wealthiest countries in the world and people in what would be considered like middle class-level jobs are being told the message that they should be grateful for SURVIVING.

[@filmfan187]

It’s so strange for me as a Swede to hear people saying that they needed to stay just to get health insurance. It just sounds so sad and unfair. Obviously people have bad jobs in Sweden as well that they/we stay at for far too long but never because of health insurance... I love free healthcare even more now.

[@sonaliperera]

The level of guilt you feel even now on this shows how much they drilled it into you

[@LaurenRachel9331]

“...to a time honored Buzzfeed tradition; the ‘Why I left Buzzfeed video” killed me, the timing, the SHADE

[@asthenamesuggests9513]

The way Jen held back her tears when Kristin talked about her story is so heart breaking

[@feliciadiamond5086]

You saying "Being able to quit your job is a privilege." means more than you know. It's so true. That's all I can say. Thanks for putting this out.

[@loganstevens1462]

I just heard her say that literally as I read it😂😂, but yes, it’s very true

[@geminixx523]

Lol. White privilege. Must be terrible.

[@HeyGuysItsDeath]

@@geminixx523 Not a white privilege necessarily. More of a financial/class privilege. Having enough savings to fall back on or having another job opportunity lined up are both privileges that not everyone has.

[@ronnihill5201]

I agree! Oh how I wish I could but I definitely think it’s time for me to look for new opportunities else where and even that is a privilege in its self

[@ronnihill5201]

@@HeyGuysItsDeath I think she meant it both ways though. Not all POC have the same opportunities or privileges as a white person in America. Something as minimal as having an ethnic name can get someone’s resume or application thrown in the trash (I say this cause I’ve seen it happen at previous companies I’ve worked for)

[@Iararawr]

Kristin saying she isn't thinking or talking about Buzzfeed anymore and then letting out a hearty cackle was so life giving.

[@danicoleb5394]

It really was. I started cracking up too!

[@stephaniekleist4414]

It’s almost like you had survivors guilt when you didn’t get laid off

[@MsVorpalBlade]

that's EXACTLY what it was

[@tedhartnell5489]

Yes...I've gone through that a few times at a few different jobs. I'm 44, and I've actually managed to never get fired or laid off, so it's always uncomfortable when there's a "cutting of losses."

[@toriward3800]

Been there.done that. I'd never been fired in the 15+ years I'd been in the workforce...then almost my entire department at a major insurace co. was terminated including me! And I cut my maternity leave short to try to keep my job! I had a 2 yr old and a 6 week old and I went into a deep depression.

[@e.v6134]

@@MsVorpalBlade not even close.

[@e.v6134]

@@toriward3800 still not survivors guilt. I'm sorry that happened to you.

[@alysandraborden9265]

So buzzfeed is like that boyfriend we all had in high school that just takes and takes and takes until there’s nothing left then moves onto the next best thing. Well damn, no wonder why they’re dying

[@goosenuggets9693]

Sound like my ex wife.

[@bethsweeney715]

Its more a 21st century 'liberal' corporate culture

[@Ston3rbunnii]

This hit too hard lol

[@alysandraborden9265]

@@mrs_chin yeah, I had a gf and a bf like that in high school. They’re like the human version of a tick

[@banan7308]

@@mrs_chin indeed, we can just say partner i suppose

[@lucasrojers336]

buzzfeed is a content farm, and calling it what it is might help enlighten people to what's going on.

[@LeireFB]

It is indeed! No shame at enjoying Buzzfeed content (I mean, most of the people working there are so talented and I myself enjoy it too), but you gave it the most accurate label.

[@NoThankUBeQuiet]

This. They farm out the videos to the producers. And they don't care how those people are DOING. There's always a new person to fill that role.

[@VashtiPerry]

Hello...👏🏽

[@revirescofm]

Oooh, nice comparison. Like an Industrial chicken farm Versus the individual farmer with their own small flock.

[@maymay5600]

why you think try guys, lady like and um i forgot who else left? same thing with everyone else, it is a content farm, shane and ryan and safiya

[@PronomianAndrew]

Buzzfeed is a social experiment (phenomena) that someone truly needs to research/ study. So many people have left this company with so much trauma.

[@ninaelle2003]

It sounds like a tech startup to be honest. Big promises, tight deadlines, constant fear of being let go.

[@amandaly2358]

@@ninaelle2003 I’ve had the same experiences with a startup ad agency. It’s a terrible industry

[@margicates553]

Always be closing

[@RobinOrzo]

ninaelle2003 same I worked for a tech start up for almost four years and this was my exact experience.

[@Madeeha_shinkoko]

Nah it's really just like any other corporate. people leave corporates, there are deadlines in corporates, shit happens in corporates. the only difference is how BuzzFeed portrays itself to be this "fun", "happy", "enjoyable" place where you won't feel like you're working, just hanging out. that bit is the problem

[@marshahnr766]

This makes my heart so sad. Y’all got me through 2 pregnancies & 2 miscarriages 🥺 y’all were my digital support team

[@ErenYeager-qb1gd]

you’re so strong

[@marshahnr766]

@@ErenYeager-qb1gd aww thank you so much🥺

[@bulldogswinston3417]

Wow! I could never. That is very impressive. You are very strong and you should be proud of yourself! Have a great day!

[@marshahnr766]

@@bulldogswinston3417 awww you are so sweet! Thank you🥰🥺

[@youllneverknow2416]

Aww I’m sorry :( I hope you’re doing better now 💕 sending lots of love!

[@debramitchell]

A bad job will give you PTSD for YEARS. I was viciously bullied at a previous job and it has affected my self-esteem.

[@bella-rj6qc]

I’m sorry you had to go through that

[@phucnhahuynh4477]

i just quit my job this morning =((

[@formaggioepomodori]

Debra Mitchell thanks for being brave to share that. 😭it can be an isolating experience. you are not alone. Praying you’re able to work thru the trauma. Hugs.

[@cedardryad]

I'm so sorry you had to go through this and I can relate so well. It's horrible how people want you to work for them, treat you like crap and expect you to be happy the whole time.

[@mariannebaker]

I'm so sorry to hear that. I'm going through that right now and it's the worst. This video made me feel some solidarity for sure though. You will get through this and hopefully I will too! 🧡❤💙

[@b4tm4n4we3om3]

Tbh I stopped watching Buzzfeed after The Try Guys left

[@destinymiranda9321]

Agreed. The fact that they left and now these two is no longer surprising now. BuzzFeed is just a terrible company to work with

[@outtahere3902]

FACTS!!

[@stephdim]

try guys, lady like, and shane and ryan were the only things giving buzzfeed views honestly

[@WhimsicalNessa]

For me, I didn’t watch it as much when Safiya left. I only watch sometimes because of Jen and maybe a few others, but then I just stopped watching entirely, even before this video was dropped.

[@spencer_w_reid]

I did after saf left

[@Koleys]

If a job plays that “we are family here”, RUNN because 9/10 the “family” is toxic and expects you to keep all of their secrets but the second you slip up you’re disposable

[@mollymoynahan538]

@@crt1848 I live by a soldiers home and the same thing happened there so many preventable deaths took place due to no one taking the right Precautions and it took people calling to talk to their family and not being allowed to for people to realize something was up it was sick and I’m sorry you have to work in a place like that you should really say something but I understand if you don’t because times are hard and losing a job makes it so much harder. Stay strong❤️

[@silentlydying6551]

I just learned this exact thing recently at a job. They said they were "family" and that "you either fit in or you don't"... I learned quickly that it was a "family" I want NO part of!! 🙅👎🚫

[@dragonixheli5474]

Omg my work also does the family thing and I can tell, family has major favorism 😂

[@Kate-br2rr]

So many big company’s are like this, for a huge example, the post office.

[@ashdontre14]

I work for a government agency and when i tell you i want to jump out the window after every meeting! The minute you start talking about what the real issues are you are ostracised and accused of backstabbing and partaking in office politics. I stopped smiling in the meetings and i was told i was not a team player despite having high production levels

[@jshister]

I left a job because it was making me miserable, without another job lined up. People thought I was nuts. I ended up getting onto a much better/happier/healthier path. Thank you for sharing your story!

[@latinabunny2000]

I had been looking for a new job prior to leaving a job I hated , too many broken promises. Anyways after 3 years I ended up saying f*it and actually got a part time job paid all my credit cards and left, went to a random country and ended up falling in love and now I'm happily married

[@blueskies773]

Ok you must have had funds saved up in order to do this right? (Both commenters)

[@LaKdazzle]

@@blueskies773 I'm leaving a job without another lined up NEXT WEEK, and Indy it was a decade in the making financially. I paid off all of my considerable credit card debt while basically running a marathon for corporate America. I have about three months bills saved up AND am privileged enough to be living rent free already as I moved in with parents mid-pandemic. FYI I'm 35 and could afford to live on my own, so living rent free gives me a ton of financial flexibility. Not sure what others experience is, but it did take a lot of planning and some luck to make quitting a toxic job without another 9-5 lined up possible.

[@caseyleann7]

I did the same. We were near penniless and I had to go. I cried to my husband every day of my job. And I found an amazing job after that. 💕

[@kianamoore6850]

This!!! I want to quit so badddd because I’m miserable.... but my bills need to be paid so I feel stuck lol...

[@ellethompson2781]

"buzzfeed was a company i would walk into hell for. their response was 'oh, can you grab a couple things for me while you're there?'" that.

[@tashaclarke2491]

My partner, who works in a completely different industry works for a company that is very similar in that ‘we don’t care about out employees’ attitude for him, it’s awful to watch and go through with him.

[@ardendelspain]

I felt this quote so hard.

[@KingRanda]

Honestly, the same can be said for any retail company ever.

[@ohcontraire1915]

Lush is another company that relies heavily on this kind of dynamic

[@SpaceCowboy42X]

Sounds like a few horse trainers I know. I watch one woman get fired because she wanted to go to her mother's funeral.

[@scandinavegan274]

Can we all just agree that if anyone or any entity promotes "You are not entitled to your emotions because other people have it worse" they are allways undoubtedly emotionally manipulating you.

[@TheSarahLindy]

👏SAY👏IT👏AGAIN👏FOR👏THE👏PEOPLE👏IN👏THE👏BACK👏🙌♥️

[@scandinavegan274]

❤️

[@viviirine7459]

This❤️

[@matchamate]

My job is 100% emotionally manipulative. And they do it on purpose. Management sees people as easily replaceable. They don't care about the people working and what they're struggling through in order to work, they only care about the same things being finished every week. Retail sucks SO MUCH.

[@KateHistoryMysteries]

It’s basically survivors guilt.

[@laurenchavez5849]

When she mentions she doesn’t own the videos where she tells her stories and fears and experiences. My heart goes out.

[@laurenchavez5849]

Kristen, you own this story. In every way possible.

[@laurenchamberlain4907]

I feel like now all the BuzzFeeders I used to watch have now officially moved onto their own projects. Good on you guys 🙂

[@corvidox9137]

"A company I loved so much didn't love me back" I FELT THAT

[@hilarybumgarner3949]

This was me at King Arthur Flour.

[@asamples333]

I know that feeling

[@kiarachambers2244]

Me in the military 👁👄👁

[@swaid626]

Same! I had a traumatizing experience about 3 years ago with a former employer and that statement hit me so hard. I’ve never related more.

[@gloriawatson8258]

That's exactly how I felt about Sephora.

[@lcneel]

Jen's look of concern and care is so genuine when Kristen spoke of her panic attacks. They have such a good colleague/friendship.

[@TheRyanzeegers]

Honestly I’d say it’s more sisterly at this point

[@shirmeldanielle2161]

I mean they are clearly beyond the colleague/friendship adn are very much genuine close friends.

[@lindseymychal5168]

I know..😢🥺

[@hgmercury1282]

When Kristen was talking about her body basically breaking down it looked like Jen was gonna cry and I was like🥺 no don’t cry😭

[@jocelynpittman7933]

Time stamp??

[@imacoolcuz93]

@@jocelynpittman7933 15:40

[@jocelynpittman7933]

@@imacoolcuz93 tysm

[@scozieozzie1588]

Ikr 😭😭😭😭

[@meepz5476]

@The Final Rumbling hey! shut up :)))) its her body not urs u have no place to judge or tell her what to do!! :)) thanks go away now

[@hellosummer993]

I have to simply say this, no company is a family, the people you meet become part of yours. A company is just that, work. I’m glad y’all are still together as friends and took back your life to be the best you.

[@kendivilla2086]

Yes! That’s always a red flag bc it means yiu will be used and abused with nothing in return.

[@kianalevinthol1283]

You know things are bad at a company when HR can't even stand it any more. Oof.

[@hiimjohnquinones2971]

🤭

[@IKKI264]

When HR needs HR....

[@hannahmariani2927]

as an HR major and professional, it has to be batshit horrible for us to leave:(

[@nadiaishimwe3663]

@@IKKI264 😭

[@peytonmcqueen]

@@IKKI264 💀💀😭 that is why I quit my hr job

[@angelicpocha]

I actually remember seeing Kristin at disney once and saying hi and she seemed so stressed :(( I'm glad she's in a better place now :)

[@Snot_Haus]

I have a photo of her and I in Disney. I’m kicking myself, she had seemed so off! I wish I had asked if she was alright, I thought she was a bit upset at being recognized ):

[@kinsey333]

the same thing happened to me

[@jazbuzzbee3260]

Perhaps a wave a thumbs up and a smile as a hello is best regarding anxious folks and keep walking like the wave and reassuring you go girl thumbs up smile is enough 🤷‍♀️

[@kitchenandjorn]

I'm sorry. I was not really a human for like two years. It got so hard. I'm better now --kitchen

[@kinsey333]

@@kitchenandjorn I LOVE YOU IM SO HAPPY YOU ARE DOING BETTER THERES NO NEED TO BE SORRY 💞💞💞

[@Galadwen85]

we've created a society where people are convinced they are lucky and should be grateful they have jobs that make them want to be dead.

[@Galadwen85]

Also I really hope you get to do your own empty suitcase bc I really really loved it ❤️

[@jlobster22]

You are 100% right. In America, this experience is unfortunately really common. So many companies expect our entire lives, expect our whole identity to be our jobs, and give us little to nothing for it. I've never heard someone say they are at a company because leadership or the values they espouse--it's always either for the people or the money.

[@tereasia]

YES

[@saraherget5089]

Holy shit y'all are incredibly ungrateful for what our history has given us. I'm lucky, as a nurse, I get to give my life and get paid well for it. Y'all are lazy and have no idea how good you have it. Try a labor camp in North Korea... Get a grip.

[@vampy5831]

@@saraherget5089 shut up

[@jillgreene00]

Toxic work environments can literally kill you. I had to quit a job that I once loved to save my life, so it doesn't sound weird to me when Kristin says it. The day I quit, my blood pressure was 210/130 and my blood sugar was over 350. The toxicity of the entire work environment and the abuse from my supervisors was absolutely killing me. Thank you for speaking out about this. We need many, many more conversations about toxic jobs and abusive bosses.

[@Xxmilkshake202xX]

S/o to Ashly Perez for coming up with the name Ladylike. It felt like Kristin wanted to tell that piece of information for so long.

[@monsterhighfan144]

"We're a family here" is one of the biggest red flags in a company.

[@timriehl1500]

Amen; I worked at 2 different places that were all "we are just a big family" and it was all bullshit.

[@alainaatk.6210]

Exactly! My current job has this, and even if it's well-intended it ends up manipulating everyone. A job is transactional, I only owe to it what I was employed to do. The same is not true for my family, and a job should never require the level of commitment that a family does.

[@TwelvetreeZ]

I hate this idea, because it assumes that a family is always loving and functional - newsflash, it's not like that all the time! "Being a family" is not automatically a good thing!

[@kittenangel11]

Walmart in a nutshell - one big family

[@dogwalkerlindsey]

Why’s that?

[@zoerphl]

Just goes to show you have NO IDEA what people are going through. That's why we must always try to be kind.

[@perla2942]

THIS! Yess!

[@asmrchilly6477]

I wish all people thought this way 🙏🌹

[@shay_dawg9]

SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK 💜💜

[@MeggieTheWerewolf]

Exactly, thank you :D

[@TheOGPokemonGirl]

Oh my God, the fact that you had to take a Xanax EVERYDAY just to function is absolutely horrible. I've been in similar situations, but being that far away from home while suffering like that? You are amazing Kristin. Thank you so much for sharing this story with us, it must have been so, so, hard. I'm so glad that you were able to save yourself and leave while being in such a difficult situation. Stay strong. ❤️

[@polypapa6619]

Come on! Who doesn't take Xanax everyday? Man up!

[@brandyb7]

can we start a new better company called buzzfreed that actually cares and invite everyone that left buzzfeed

[@brittisgood]

THIS!

[@permafrost0979]

They'll probably get sued for the name being too similar

[@Ashley-ro4xz]

@@permafrost0979 true and I don’t think I wanna visit a site that has their name

[@phylliskimani6893]

call it feedbuzz

[@natashap7591]

Cool concept but the problem is the fact its a company and big corp don't care about your feelings. No ethical consumption under capitalism and all that.

[@rsmith4379]

"Not only are you in this never-ending cycle of peeling out your body and putting it on the internet, you need to feel grateful about it because your friends are suffering." Wow.

[@ebonyloveivory]

How she spoke of it, I felt that.

[@amiejo]

Unfortunately the company I work for is also selling this narrative. When I asked to use my PTO, I was told “do you know how many people wish they had a job to take off from?”

[@rinkyasmr1361]

@@amiejo just say yes but I have this job and im entitled to my paid time off.

[@candegomez6666]

Now I need a colaboration with everyone who left buzzfeed in the last 4 years(Safiya, The Try Guys, Michelle, etc..)

[@zeeieya]

YESSSSSSSSSS

[@AddyAddyO]

God... I would love that... and just call it a BuzzCut.

[@hannah.may.banana]

That would insane because it's pretty mich all their top creators now all of the original Ladylike including Saf, The Try Guys, Shane & Ryan brought in so much of Buzzfeeds audience

[@whizzardblizzard5696]

@@AddyAddyO Patent that shit!

[@fatimaasif3761]

@@hannah.may.banana Ryan and Shane still work there though

[@possiblypipermae]

when i was in high school my life plan was graduate-go to college-intern at buzzfeed- work at buzzfeed because everyone seemed so happy and this just proves how different things are off camera. thank you for shining light even brighter than it was

[@panselinapendragon1731]

i remember being around 10-12 years old and being obsessed with buzzfeed, i was so desperate to work there 😪

[@BladesofHoney.]

The fact that Buzzfeed preaches so much about mental health and is “leftist” attitude and is actually the opposite makes me sick

[@julius1787]

It really shows the hypocrisy of the left.

[@grant9449]

@@julius1787 No, it shows that the company is a cooperate conglomerate who’s based in California, a very blue left leaning state, so even though their workers are probably gonna be left leaning, that doesn’t mean the CEO and other higher ups have a left Californian view

[@bunnywavyxx9524]

@@julius1787 or maybe they aren't really leftist...?

[@alexajackson3655]

@@julius1787, the entire video they talked about how the workers were amazing (the workers being more left) and the people at the top causing the problems....

[@chosoistryinghisbest]

@@julius1787 no this is the punishment for performative leftist. they wanted to seem woke but don't want to put in the work

[@jennyjenkins7645]

It’s like college when you say “after these 2 weeks things will get better. I’ll have more free time!” And then you literally just say that until graduation

[@jazzal8935]

Then u get a job... And it never ennnnnds

[@BarelyNoticeable]

Me rn

[@anthyavila9726]

Then you graduate and that's when the real hell begins~

[@____7752]

I felt this

[@mikrokosmos4542]

That’s me but in high school (and middle school before it)

[@jessierose5319]

Safiya was the first warning. Try guys the second. And you guys the third. Ironically when I was younger I always wanted to work for this company

[@janeashley5829]

And buzzfeed unsolved/watcher

[@Brooklynishere__]

@@janeashley5829 buzzfeed unsolved??? What happened?

[@asecretgoth]

@@Brooklynishere__ Shane, Ryan & Steven Lim left Buzzfeed last year to create their own company (Watcher Entertainment). They still work on Unsolved & Worth It but as contracted employees iirc

[@Brooklynishere__]

@@asecretgoth wow I had no idea

[@rosiesummer2711]

Matt Bellassai aka the guy from "Wine about it" segments from Buzzfeed also left years ago. Once he left, they put a woman instead to do the same concept as Matt's but from a mom's perspective. It wasn't as funny as Matt's.

[@tiffanylanza9255]

Throw an advertisement in this b so I can help pay ya’ll !

[@janae7784]

Absolutely, get some ad revenue we know the deal.

[@laserrose6667]

They were prolly afraid of Big Buzz coming after them for it or people criticizing them for “monetizing their story” or some other BS. They 100% deserve the money, but there’s sadly a plethora of reasons to not monetize this specific video.

[@Mistic778]

I feel like this is one of the most honest "why I left buzzfeed" videos. Glad you are both doing better ♡

[@lydiamartin4921]

I feel like Buzzfeed was using Kristen and Jen’s identities as their “token” for the videos they were in. Like “oh were inclusive look at these people working for us!!!”

[@lilypowder1]

100%! The Lesbian & The Fat One (I’m saying this as a fat woman myself). People are so much more than their bodies and identities that it would’ve been so nice to see the other ways in which they were valued outside of those simple facts that don’t tell us anything about their personalities or the types of people they are. I’m glad they left.

[@lydiamartin4921]

Agree so much, I LOVE their videos now that they left.. Looking back, I can totally see how they could have exploited them(specifically Kristen) due to their identity:( So sad.

[@tessarodes]

Hmm I think this is a tough comment because I’m certainly not pro buzzfeed here but if we criticize media companies who hire and promote diversity as tokenizing, how will we ever accept or demand change?

[@PolkaDotz212]

Same!!!! ☕️

[@racheln4059]

@@tessarodes companies can be inclusive without having token employees. There is a diverence between actually including people and using them to seem inclusive. One is respectfull. And is the morally right thing to do, to treat everyone as equal. The outher is more of a "see we did it, we hired a few non white skinny cis straight people, can we get a pat on the back now?

[@MouseyPeach]

"Being able to quit your job is a privilege" This is so important

[@SameShirtDifferentDay]

🤮

[@lovecble]

@@SameShirtDifferentDay??

[@georgies5357]

@@lovecble maybe quitting your job is a choice, not a privilege. If it's a privilege what about us without much money, do we just stay in bad jobs and bad relationships? No. You have to find a way.

[@raven100104]

@@georgies5357 maybe recognize that without money or places to go, it's much harder to leave both bad jobs and bad relationships. wild to not recognize that. it's definitely a privilege to have enough money and resources and support to leave. otherwise what? starve on the streets?

[@ucheoutloud]

@@georgies5357 That's what makes it a privilege. Some people may be unable to quit freely (especially without a backup job) because of the need for regular paycheck to support themselves or others.

[@k.6028]

this was also my experience when i got my dream job, ended up in therapy crying constantly and having a massive breakdown. i work a less glamorous job now but the company looks out for me and it's 10x better. getting on meds and in a better environment helped SO much

[@k.6028]

you're supposed to be compensated for the hours you work. but if you really look at the hours you work at these kinds of jobs, it ends up being far less than minimum wage

[@k.6028]

and as a poc woman, the companies i work for tend to try and push me out there a lot to highlight their diversity when if you look at upper management, none of it reflects it and i'm making less than my male peers

[@JBUHJBUH]

​@@k.6028 Yeah they hire you to stick you on the company brochure but not to give you any meaningful influence there (i.e. promotions/ opinions etc).

[@elipostkennedy3059]

Alternative title: "Buzzfeed is still abusive to its employees"

[@ellaelliott4415]

All the former Buzzfeed creators that go off on their own are happier and healthier and their content is SO MUCH BETTER than it ever was on Buzzfeed.

[@ashleydickson7874]

So is Disney World :). I don't want to take attention away from their story. It is 100% terrible. Just speaking from my own experiences.

[@beans6765]

@@ashleydickson7874 Yep. I used to work there and it was not pleasant...happiest place on earth except for the workers LOL

[@erc28]

it's really hypocritical how buzzfeed was obsessed with the news of ellen being abusive to her staff when there are dozens of YT videos of former buzzfeed employees sharing the same sentiments. it never sat right with me.

[@userjoh4n4]

I have a question is lady like working with buzzed? Are they the same?

[@mchlle94]

Anxiety IS physical, a lot of people feel it like that. Physical anxiety usually happens because you ignored your own needs and boundaries for so long. It's hard to believe it's mental when you're in it.

[@amandahostler3356]

Sometimes when I have anxiety I get a stomachache

[@Shan-sy2er]

@@amandahostler3356 same! If I get sudden anxiety due to outside factors I almost always get extremely nauseous

[@emmanitamuscaria2104]

I have bodily based anxiety for years hardly anyone believes me when I try to describe it. It's mainly an intense "pain" in my chest like a knot that makes me wanna scream when I feel into it too much. Also get headaches, stomach aches and even paralysis when something comes up that's highly anxiety inducing my body goes in shock and can't move.

[@laceylee6797]

i've gotten sick from anxiety, like vomit sick and can't stop it, theres totally physical anxiety

[@vrockchick89]

Anxiety sends a signal to your body that there is danger, which is why your muscles tense up so it is very much physical. I feel anxious most of the day which completely drains my energy, having me sleep long hours.

[@beatrizpereira-ob3mt]

when a company lives by the "we are a family" model, they are always so manipulative, is so sad

[@oliviabossonart5177]

So true!! I dont want my job to be my family. My family is my family and i never have time to see them because if this BS job

[@kashnaranee8488]

I worked in a care home with this ethos, you have to help by covering shifts and it's selfish not to. People there were encouraged to pay for the owners presents for Christmas anniversaries and birthdays considering the fact we only got minimum wage and had to pay for our own uniforms. You were nearly forced to come in sick it was a insidious place I will never work for a company that claims a family atmosphere.

[@kirstenbrentonwestafer8034]

This is, unfortunately, so true..

[@BoldlyGoing]

It is very sad. I just got let go from a company that has this family mantra, but it paid me, a warehouse employee, the same minimum wage as a cashier but I'm doing 10x the amount of physical work. And my supervisor said that the wages hadn't changed in the ten years he was there for the same warehouse position! "Families helping families' my ass, I cant even afford to feed my own family with this minimum wage packhorse job!

[@UateTamanikaiyaroi]

Facts!!!!!!!!!

[@artsyebonyrose]

I hadn't even realised you guys left buzzfeed bc of the fact that I stopped watching buzzfeed altogether, but I'm glad you're both doing your own thing now and don't have the pressure of a contract and what not on your shoulders anymore

[@sanazlol7433]

Honestly i’m so happy they did,anyone who’s ever left buzzfeed has become so much more successful!some of my fav youtubers are former buzzfeed employees😌

[@KP-ov3mg]

Same! You get to see their content without the lense of having to appease a company. Im so so so happy Kristin and Jen created a collab channel cause they are my absolute favorite duo.

[@sanazlol7433]

@@KP-ov3mg OMG exactly!it’s like all of their talents and ideas are sucked right out of them when they’re working for that god awful company.Kristin and Jen’s content has been sooo fresh and entertaining!

[@glimmerlicht]

Right, I am so happy they are doing this thogether.

[@jessiemarin3288]

forreal!! saf, try guys, ect

[@laureblau1241]

Exactly, the feeling it must be to leave a toxic company and being able to do your own content and own it. And also being recognized for who you really are. The same happened with Bon appétit and look how the people who quit are thriving right now, like Sohla, Rick..

[@1rkhachatryan]

Honestly it's so sad that they don't own the rights to this massive thing that they built. Ladylike will forever be there's idgaf what Buzzfeed says.

[@orange_leaf4913]

Wait so how did the try guys get the rights

[@kayleegrindrod5049]

I’m pretty sure they bought the rights, which I’m sure was expensive.

[@Jen-cc9xk]

This isn't news. Safiya left for the same reason.

[@rosered6143]

@@orange_leaf4913 they bought the rights. It cost them a lot of money.

[@shoepixie]

@DonKingKong and that's a bad and wrong way to do it. workers should own what they make.

[@KennyMoffitt]

Y’all making me think about all the things I COULD’VE said about leaving but didn’t. Sending virtual hugs and solidarity vibes!

[@amayamartinezalvarez7659]

U left buzzfeed as well? Are u like okay now

[@jenniferhergert4447]

It's not too late to say them, if you want to

[@mattm2451]

Seeing this I just thought about you, hope you are well and we love to see support.

[@Slimmingwithsandy]

This is heartbreaking because it’s relatable with everyone!!! I loved many jobs and was treated like shit till I broke... didn’t even have $2000 in my bank account so for sure I made the right choice

[@loveyourself9464]

It’s never too late to speak out

[@serenakarin787]

Right as Jen said "I love meds, take your meds" the alarm for my meds went off. Shit be spooky

[@marijkevanderperren3573]

"Being able to quit your job is a privilege" tells you a lot about our society. So glad for your open, honest yet supportive telling of your experiences

[@smig2801]

Honestly, it makes you feel like shit even though you're leaving an enviroment that's toxic for you and makes you sick, because a lot of people are losing their jobs and would give an arm and a leg to be where you are.

[@marijkevanderperren3573]

@@smig2801 We're always told to 'count out blessings' and I agree with that. However, too often that statement is used to discredit how we feel. Having good things also does not discredit a bad experience 🤷‍♀️

[@chelsear9483]

That is a sad and important quote.

[@analivita]

YES!!! I like my company but then when things happen that are not right they preach about mental health comes first but threaten to fire you when you need a day off outside of their schedules. And yet I feel that I can’t quit because of the current climate. Thankfully it hasn’t been me that’s been threatened to be fired for taking days off but I know other staff members who just didn’t show up anymore because they were done.

[@marijkevanderperren3573]

@@analivita I'm sorry that you have these sort of fears and negativity to contend with on top of everything else... I hope you do have room to take care of your mental health!

[@misssheatherskye]

I'll just say it, the company gaslighted yall. And no one has to feel grateful for that. Glad yall are here and living.

[@wendychoate2553]

I didn't even know the meaning of Gaslighting was until break down and hospitalized for mental issues due to Verbal abusive and controlling then husband of 19yrs and now been Ex for 10yrs but I do know now work can do it to you too

[@M0rbidCuriositea]

Cinema Therapy has a really great episode on gaslighting in Tangled that wonderfully educates about the 11 signs of gaslighting. Worth a watch.

[@wendychoate2553]

@@M0rbidCuriositea thank you .Thought physical abuse was bad but my parents never told me about or I knew anything about mental abuse

[@M0rbidCuriositea]

@@wendychoate2553 I wish you well on your healing journey.

[@kimshreffler4606]

I am in no way the typical Buzzfeed demographic target audience, but I was totally hooked by Ladylike and the chemistry between the collaborators. As someone old enough to be your mother, I commend you for taking care of yourselves. Best of luck.

[@alexandrarathert1839]

Same! I am not the target audience but loved the chemistry of Ladylike; however, I’m so glad Kristin and Jen are taking care of themselves!

[@TwirlGirl2197]

Just because something is psychosomatic or “all in your head” doesn’t mean you aren’t experiencing physical symptoms. It means you’ve ignored some other problem in your body (mental or physical) that your brain is just flipping every alarm bell it can find because the regular alarm bells aren’t working anymore.

[@RWorley3sl]

Yep, I was told suedo seizures were the way your body keeps from shutting down. All the fun of a seizure, awake. But no lasting damage.

[@jordanvanni339]

@@RWorley3sl i have those too! they are caused by my severe anxiety. just celebrated being 10 months seizure free:)

[@cedarmoss7173]

I’ve had several physical breakdowns because I didn’t have access to the treatment I needed for my mental illnesses. The longest one was near two months and I physically unable to do any type of work without falling apart and I was only 17.

[@liriodendronlasianthus]

Exactly. I don't understand why people think that "not acting on it" is okay. So when is it? When you wake up in an ER? Sooner or later something may happen.

[@mandymosher5977]

@@jordanvanni339 congratulations 🎉

[@BeingLolaStar]

Leaving a toxic job is just as bad as leaving a toxic relationship. It impacts you mental and emotional well being, your confidence, your financial security, future job prospects, health, etc etc etc.

[@yvonnelasten7424]

YES

[@danishamcclendon]

Honestly BINGO

[@nicoledufault2508]

Exactly!

[@HumbleWorldTraveler]

Salute 💯💯💯🤦🏽‍♀️

[@mynameisKiki95]

👏 👏 👏

[@mila7277]

the folks from ladylike should have a podcast.... like if you agree

[@vickylikesthis]

Well I have good news for you. Search for the untitled lady show

[@thefrankstank3404]

@@vickylikesthis god bless you

[@sierracindrell5775]

Safiya included

[@leslieochoa7204]

Did they leave ladylike to

[@tyjay7221]

They're actually are still together they have a channel called the untitled lady show

[@MsLoriKessler]

“I just believe that we owe each other a little bit more than that.” this is my life philosophy

[@candystrobel1933]

I owe no one anything. Likewise no one owes me anything. How entitled can one be to believe that others owe you? You become a slave to your ideals. If I choose to help, it is out of actual kindness, not duty. If others help me, I am thankful- I don't expect it. Get better role models. Get better philosophies. Get better morals.

[@sylvesteralexanderstreaming]

@@candystrobel1933 I disagree. I think it's healthy to have standards for how other people treat you and what you tolerate. Expecting basic human decency and kindness from other people isn't being entitled. I do believe that I deserve and am owed compassion from my fellow humans. If there are people who aren't treating me with respect and empathy, I owe it to myself to realize that I don't deserve that and to walk away. Perhaps you are the one who should get better morals if you feel like you have the right to treat people poorly (and be kind of an asshole tbh) because you think that others are entitled if they expect better from you. Just sayinnggggg

[@candystrobel1933]

Obviously, I think you're wrong. Very wrong. Infact you contradict yourself! Respect is EARNED, not given. You will not walk away. Why? Because You owe me nothing. Nor are you kind- not even save for your 'duties sake' as you preach to me how I'm wrong. You realize how hypocritical that is right? It's cool, I however, welcome opinions even when I don't share them. Either I get to learn something and grow, or I am proved right. So thank you. For proving me right. I appreciate you

[@candystrobel1933]

@Miss Hard Stan I wish I did drugs. It would help wash everyone's bull shit away.

[@liannaxiao1651]

@@candystrobel1933 I'm curious, you say respect is earned. So until someone earns your respect, how do you treat them?

[@meganguevara7673]

Stop apologizing for your "privilege". You're experienced shouldn't be diminished because "it could be worse." I'm sorry it was so bad. I started watching LadyLike videos because of the two of you and will continue to watch your content on whatever platform. Love you both and all the Ladylike ladies. Hugs

[@annar220]

Same for trauma

[@abelle173]

They didn’t apologize for it, they recognized it. Poor choice of words on your part

[@BronzeBellaBria]

@@abelle173 you know they choose not to get it intentionally lol

[@KM-rt5jj]

That's not at all what privilege is about and they didn't apologise even once or minimise their own feelings due to their privilege. Being able to point out that there are others who need help and are still at buzzfeed is amazing of both of them ❤️

[@Zoe-tj4ld]

@@abelle173 they reconised it as a way to apologise.

[@krimerkr]

I love seeing all of the OGs leave buzzfeed to branch out on their own. You’re all so talented & deserve this.

[@meghanwestby2413]

I’d love to see a reunion with Safiya. I felt like when she left no one was allowed to be seen with her and that felt like a huge red flag to what was happening at buzzfeed. I’m sorry you both went through this. I worked at a business that pushed the family mentality and I found myself working on my honeymoon and when I questioned actions or didn’t want to work on my time off I was responded to poorly, it was a sign that something wasn’t right.

[@stzyp]

Omg id love to see this collab ❤❤❤

[@Mandi8557]

I know Safiya made a couple of videos with Fred after she left buzzfeed. But I can't remember if Fred had left at that point as well. But your point is totally valid. Shane and Ryan started the watcher. And have stepped back too. And the best try guy left too. So it's a testament to their company culture.

[@belladienes8972]

@@Mandi8557 I've been out of date, what try guy left? I thought they weren't part of buzzfeed anymore

[@joartuk]

Yes, I want this

[@maxedoutmaccxs170]

@@belladienes8972 they weren't anymore because they left buzzfeed i would say about a year now? The ones we're seeing in KZbin right now is their own company (TryGuys) Correction: 2 years ago*

[@noahgood7674]

13:27 “My whole body and my experiences and my self were real estate for content” This is such an important point to make and so well said!

[@WizardOnAWhale7]

I'll see what's on Buzzfeed every now and then, but I was obsessed with it from 2014-2018. I miss the OG Buzzfeed staff like Gaby, Allison, Kenny, Chris Reinacher, Andrew, Brittany, Quinta, Zack, Justin, etc.

[@sarak6883]

My jaw dropped to the floor when this popped up in my recommendations cause I used to watch Ladylike religiously. How did I not know about this channel??

[@kimberlypatterson3171]

SAME!!! I had no idea they had made their own channel or what happened to LadyLike/AsIs! I’m beyond happy that this popped up on my recommended!!!! SUBSCRIBED!! ♥️♥️♥️

[@xZinnie]

right????

[@Deafkid97]

I can't believe that buzzfeed literally gave y'all survivors guilt

[@kateberry2004]

Yeahhhhh...

[@mrzoohasaninn]

Capitalism will do that to you. A lot.

[@tokiobabe99]

this is 100% an accurate description. I'm betting right now there are a bunch of people going through survivor's guilt at work as well.

[@loudandiknowit]

Wow I didn't even know that was a thing. Thanks for sharing!

[@Pearl-_Perla]

@@mrzoohasaninn

[@saalihasadiq5481]

There's this boomer idea that if you have a job, insurance, etc. you aren't allowed to feel depressed and that makes a lot of us invalidate our own struggle Edit: I'd like to clarify that my comment isn't saying that it's the fault of one generation. I actually believe that boomers are most negatively affected by this mindset.

[@calulida]

This is so true and some younger people perpetuate this idea as well, it’s sad

[@gloriousjorious283]

I 100% agree with you. But I also need to point out: same icon!

[@saalihasadiq5481]

@@gloriousjorious283 You're the second person who has the same icon as me on KZbin! Did you also get it from Pinterest?

[@saalihasadiq5481]

@@calulida Absolutely. Some of us are still stuck in this mindset, but things are starting to change with more awareness about mental health, so there's some hope.

[@oliviabossonart5177]

Yeah i think it comes from a much healthier work life balance that they had when they had jobs. Now we the internet, social media and emails theres never time that youre just off work. Youre always on.

[@alisonbell4990]

Me: *forgetting I subbed already* Jen: “please subscribe we need to keep affording our Prozac” Also me: *accidentally unsubs while trying to sub*

[@datgaydangernoodle1315]

I did that too lol :)

[@abby4179]

How did I JUST find out abt this channel like i-

[@sofilopez6537]

SAME

[@pec324399]

Riding the same boat

[@pandas_crochet_corner]

Saaaaame!!!

[@drastaaa7241]

Samee...oh my goodness lol

[@OneArtist2]

Same?!? They are my favorite so how did I miss this?!?

[@Najmille]

A lot of this makes Safiyas current situation with toxic perfectionism and over pushing herself make sense

[@valeriatinocoakalitttlevaler]

what’s going on?

[@s2lLandals2]

Yeah, what about that

[@nicoledufault2508]

Go look at the posts Safiya has done lately on her KZbin channel. She goes into detail about it! But basically, one of those things is that she been stressed out about all the comments people have been leaving about her personality and nitpicking about small things about how she pronounces things, ect. She's also been worried about getting through editing faster and posting content on time. Again, I'd go and read Saf's posts because I'm only touching on the surface of everything she's been going through.

[@AdaylnTheLifeOf]

@@valeriatinocoakalitttlevaler safiya has written a few posts about it, if you go to her channel it’ll be on the community tab (and possibly her insta too, but that might have been on a story that is gone). Safiya basically touched on everything they talked about, how you feel everything isn’t good enough and if you try just a little bit harder to do more things it could be. And the line keeps moving. When safiya left buzzfeed and made her own channel she still had the buzzfeed mindset for the amount and type of content that was released. It put her in a bad place mentally where now it’s nearly impossible to even release one video a month. She said she’s working on it, and trying new things and that being in CA maybe isn’t the best place to live with what they do now. (Family is in the Midwest/east coast).

[@nicoledufault2508]

@Don K 100%!

[@lulucool45]

dude imagine if buzzfeed became employee-owned. where every insanely talented creator got their chance to shine, support one another and share resources with newcomers.

[@northboy7996]

That’s definitely how it should be maybe someone should make a website with that concept

[@TheSpencer404]

This is what modern day "socialism" is all about. Introducing the concept of democracy in the work place. Not only would it radically change the type of content created, it would probably change the way the company would engage with its audience AND how profits would be spent/reinvested. People shouldn't fear this. I believe this is our only way forward into the future. We must do better than the current system.

[@kcototheyoyoyo]

The buzzfeed house😂

[@kaitlyngeorge1429]

I watched a lot of buzzfeed YT videos throughout college, but that viewership declined as I got older and saw a lot of content changing. Glad to know now the BTS of what that was happening and happy to know both of you are doing so much better now. Most of the OG BF content creators I watched have moved on, and now that I’ve heard so many of the “Why I left BF stories”, I would say I commend all of you who left and are continuing to make content that supports a healthier lifestyle while still doing something you love.

[@Sarahbellmarie]

Am I the only one that thinks buzz feed sounds like a cult Pushing them to do things in hopes of some kind of reward or good ending

[@FreyaEinde]

That's most corporations honestly.

[@avashetterly6276]

sadly most corporations to do that

[@bcaye]

At the same time, staffers gain valuable experience while being paid. Many of them have gone on to successful Independence, they don't harsh on the experience.

[@Jaidzeka36]

@@FreyaEinde exactly what I was thinking

[@FreyaEinde]

@@bcaye True, but I wonder at the precarious feelings of those who don't have the personality to be entrepreneurs or the face of things. I guess it's always up in the air for everybody really.