Why we're flipping our 2023 NX hybrid! Parting thoughts plus TX plans

[@josh-on-cars]

Hey friends! The sneak preview of what we got is now live in Short form! Check it out at the link and be sure to stay tuned for a full intro video soon! kzbin.infoZI0lU-tm8-Q?feature=share

[@tonyurquhart7130]

I have a 2025 NX350h on order and after my test drive, I agree with you about the interiors in the new Lexus. My 2015 ES300h was totalled last month after a deer or elk ran into the driver’s side at 120kph (yes, I am in Canada). Both vehicles would be the same trim, ultra luxury in Canada, the 2nd trim from the top. My ES had nice real wood door and console trim and on the steering wheel. The passenger side was stitched leather. For my soon to be NX, it seems Lexus is giving me more tech at the expense of luxury car interior materials. I miss my ES. I was proud of it. It gave me 10 years of faithful service. It was a solid car and, because of that, probably saved my wife and I from serious injury. Thank you for your NX videos which really helped me in my decision to buy. Cheers.

[@Moo2oob]

Your reviews of the NX350h have been right on. I've got a 2024 version and overall, I just love it. I agree that it's not a "fun" car in the traditional sense, but I love the way it handles. I love the safety features. I love the reliability. It's the perfect size for a retired couple. Easy to park. Great gas mileage. Love the self-charging hybrid cuz I would have no place to charge a plug-in hybrid. My understanding is it is the only self-charging hybrid being manufactured currently (but I could be wrong). And the price point is excellent for what you get. Apparently the CAT converter on the car is almost impossible to steal due to the design. And I have heard through the grapevine that Lexus has updated the software to thwart an OBD port attack by a thief (Not sure of this one though). Reliability and safety are top of my list for any car. The NX350h works for me. No car is perfect and I do agree with some of the small "negatives" you have cited. I do disagree with one observation you made previously about the car having a "small gas tank" and not the car for a road trip. I get 450 mile range on a full tank. I find I can go a long way without having to gas up. The car is also in high demand. Where I live, there is at least a one year waiting list to get one but I lucked out with my particular circumstances (too much to get into here). Cheers.

[@Moo2oob]

@@ekimandersom4478 If they can't give them away in Germany, that must mean they think there is something wrong with them over there. So not sure why you are even considering purchasing one. Not to disparage Germany car models, although they tend to be built like tanks, you apparently have to keep taking them into the shop to get repaired. Fun to drive. Not fun on the wallet. 😂

[@hvailjr]

I am very surprised at your decision. We have bought Lexus cars since 1992 and we now have the NX450h+ and an NX350h on order. We love the compact style of the car and being older we don't need a larger car anymore. We love the NX handling, compactness, and gas mileage. While there is less wood and more plastic doesn't bother us.

[@josh-on-cars]

I agree there’s so much to love about the NX and I will be sad to lose it but I’m all about the engine in a car and as the V6s and V8s going away, it was something I didn’t want to miss out on. Where with the NX, if I decide I want to go back to one, the NX with a 4-cylinder hybrid will always be around and so I could flip back to it if I end up not liking the new car down the line.

[@violetwhiskers]

Very helpful video. I like how your videos are organized with an agenda and planned content that you stick to versus going off on tangents. Good job.... keep up the videos about cars and industry knowledge.

[@josh-on-cars]

Thank you so much! I so appreciate you noticing! The truth is that I’m such a scatter brain that if I don’t thoroughly plan out a video I wouldn’t even try to film it because it would be just all over the place. 😂

[@wayneonpark]

I completely get what you're saying about a car not having a "soul." I LOVE Lexus and Toyota! I own a 2004 Lexus SC430 that I bought new and it currently has 67K on the clock. I love its uniqueness and luxury, and I haven't been tired of it for the last 20 years. No rattles, or squeaks, and the big V8, and all the wood and leather make me feel good. Last year I sold my Toyota Tacoma PreRunner TRD; I bought it new in 2003. I sold it with 120K on the clock almost what I had paid 20 years earlier. It was always a terrific truck in the simplest of ways, which is only one of the reasons I held on to it for so long. I also sold a 2007 Miata last year that I LOVED. It was like lighting in a bottle! But every time I drove it - it scared me a bit in Southern California traffic. It was a little too small of a car. This year, I retired to my home in Palm Springs California, and I am seriously considering adding either the RX or the RAV to my garage. Yet, I do agree with you that the line between Lexus and Toyota is beginning to blur. So, for as little as I drive, I'm wondering if I can justify the premium cost of the RX which doesn't always feel like it's worth the premium cost. So the RAV is looking pretty good to me. I LOVE your RAV and 4Runner! Great Video!

[@josh-on-cars]

I love this comment so much! I’m a native Angeleno who followed tech to Austin but still consider LA to be a home and I definitely understand the Miata being a little too small on the SoCal freeways! It would be the same thing here, though people drive them and I love seeing them. Hang onto that SC430 for as long as you can, too! It’s a real gem! As for the RX, if you’re talking a brand new RX I’d pass all day long on it. I have a video coming out tomorrow morning on the new RX hybrid. The 4-cylinder engine in it is just not befitting of an RX and not worth the price either. If you can find and would be willing to buy CPO, you could do a 22 RX so as to get the V6. If not, I would definitely go Rav, but go hybrid, and I would definitely check out the Venza too. It’s reminiscent of older RXs with the more graceful styling. Cheers!

[@joelthorne7434]

You shouldn’t apologize for lengthy reviews-The more useful, insightful information, the better.

[@josh-on-cars]

Thank you! Glad you enjoy all the detail!

[@yajiinaachi]

you are so honest about all the reviews thats why we love you. dont lose that

[@josh-on-cars]

Haha thank you! Personally I would rather not make videos than sell out to a manufacturer.

[@monicawilson896]

I appreciate your thoughts and observations.

[@josh-on-cars]

Thank you!

[@marycarla6245]

I want a car that feels like I’m driving a sofa, not a fun car, so the Lexus NX 350H might just be the car for me. Thanks for helping me narrow this down.

[@josh-on-cars]

You’ll probably love the NX350h in that case! I didn’t dislike it, I just wanted to spend my money on something else that was going away.

[@1825OREO]

Did you pay msrp or better

[@marycarla6245]

I actually ended up going with the Toyota Crown Signia. It has a lot of similarities with the NX 350 H but getting in and out, the size, the handling and ease of parking just made it the right car for me. I used a car broker because I didn’t want to play the “let me talk to my manager“ game with the dealership. I don’t know if I got a spectacular deal, but I think I got a fair deal. The Crown Signia is hard to find and not readily available in the colors I wanted, so I had to order it. Hoping to get it next month.

[@chillnndc]

i have the previous version of the NX and been in a lot of the older Lexus and I REALLY agree that the new Lexus interiors dont have the upscale look anymore. If I am going to overpay for a overpriced 4 cylinder....I want to see where that money went.

[@josh-on-cars]

Hahaha! I’m going to steal your “If I’m going to overpay for an overpriced 4 cylinder I want to see where that money went line.” Because I 2000% agree with that.

[@meryl9846]

I so agree with you when you brought up the decline in quality of Lexus cars. I drive a 2007 IS250 and it still feels lux to this day. I enjoy the wood trim and my worn out leather seats. One day I got picked up by a friend in his 2013 Lexus IS250 (when they started coming out with those ugly front grills lol) and immediately I could see and feel the difference. Everything seemed “plasticky”. Even the smell of leather seats was so artificial. In my head I was thinking the demand for these cars is probably so high that they have no choice but to overlook quality to keep up with the demand. But you’re right…some Lexus cars are starting to feel like Toyotas with a Lexus price tag.

[@josh-on-cars]

So funny story, my college roommate/now best friend’s mother had a 2006 IS250 in the gorgeous green metallic over beige leather interior and that car and riding in it when I went home with him during our college years is right when and where I decided that a Lexus was the car I aspired to own in life because the leather and fit and finish and the perfectly polished wood on the center console was INCREDIBLE. So, suffice to say I LOVE your generation of IS and it’ll always be special because that was the car that made me fall in love with Lexus. And she still has it to this day and will never get rid of it!

[@eleanormassaro5195]

Agreed, coming from a previous 2010 Lexus RX owner, which was driven for 12 years!

[@Azel247]

It's not just Lexus. It's not even just cars. Every single product we buy these days has become cheaper and prone to failure. Fridges, washing machines, bikes, shoes, even homes... all became cheap quality.

[@neildesposito1492]

One of the best honest video I’ve seen, great review.

[@josh-on-cars]

Thank you! If you want all the details go watch my 6-month video, though I’ll warn you in advance that it’s long! kzbin.info/www/bejne/poXSgHatnJmXd5o

[@jywn]

IMHO picking the prime over then lexus hybrid was the right choice at this moment

[@tphonhnaboth]

I have 2005 GX and it had over 300K miles on it and its still run like new. Never had any major issues with it. The best car I ever owned.

[@josh-on-cars]

Gotta love that old school Lexus quality! Can’t beat it.

[@bluesfoxpix]

Agree with your predication that the 4 runner is going away. Enjoy your new GX! After going with the GX ourselves, we plan to keep it forever given the new GX550 and new LandCruiser (slimmed down 4Runner). It is really comfortable and just feels bulletproof. Sure the mpg is not great, but the reassurance of its ride, get out of anything traction, reliability makes up for it.

[@josh-on-cars]

Yes! I completely agree. It’s the last of its kind and there will never be another truck like it! And yeah not a fan at all of the new GX and Land Cruiser. I can’t wait to drive them when they start hitting the lots but I won’t be buying one!

[@bluesfoxpix]

@@josh-on-cars btw, if you do go for the GX, strongly consider the Michelin LTX tires right away. We kept the Dunlop 19” for the first 10K of our 23 GX and the difference is very noticeable between Mich LTX vs Dunlop. Seems so simple, just tries after all, but makes it drive more like a car and certainly “more connected to the road” feeling as you refer in your video like the steering analogy.

[@josh-on-cars]

We just picked ours up today and it actually came with Michelins on it. I don’t remember off hand which they are but will look into it for sure, thanks for the tip!!

[@keomx536]

Holy crap! I agree with you 100% on the interior design language of Lexus cars. I have been making comments and left plenty of complaints on how Acura cars are heading in the opposite direction of old Lexus - where Acura is getting more luxurious and Lexus is getting mundane on the inside interior real estate.

[@josh-on-cars]

I like Acura a lot, though I wish they weren’t going right to full EV. If they made a hybrid MDX and a hybrid RDX, those would sell like crazy. Especially if they could base a hybrid MDX on the existing V6 which is what Lexus can’t seem to do.

[@jackiedel623]

JOSH DID U SAY YOUR NX350h uses regular gas? If so that’s a game changer for me I was on the fence due to the premium gas issue. If I can use regular gas you helped me make a decision!

[@josh-on-cars]

Yes! The manual states regular fuel is perfectly fine. Premium is merely “recommended” but it’s not like my new GX where it’s REQUIRED. Which makes sense as the hybrid drivetrain is identical to the Rav4 and Highlander hybrids.

[@syk1004]

Thank you Josh for your Car (especially Lexus) videos. They've been very helpful in my car buying decision. I'm in the process of getting the NX 350H - Premium Package. The only way for me to get the 360 camera Panoramic View (bird's view) Monitor is if I get the Luxury package. I noticed you had the Premium package when you had the NX - did yours come with the Panoramic and if not did you feel you were missing out by not having that feature? Oh and congrats on your new GX!

[@josh-on-cars]

Hello! Thank you and I’m so glad my videos have been helpful to you! No, I didn’t have the panoramic view monitor, and it’s not something I personally feel the need to have in a car. I think it’s a great safety feature and if I had kids that we running around the driveway I might want to have it, but otherwise I didn’t feel like I was missing out (we don’t have it on the GX either). I like having the parking distance sonar which comes on the Premium though.

[@cvo223]

I have a premium with panoramic view. Just ask your dealer to find one for you. No need to jump up to the luxury package.

[@carrera3.262]

This dude knows whats up about the Lexus ethos. Even with the mpg I think a used gx at similar price point just offers more of a quality feel. Even with that crappy tech. Def an old school Lexus.

[@josh-on-cars]

Thank you! And yes! We bought a brand new 23 GX, could not be happier with it. Was willing to spend whatever it cost to get one of the last great Lexuses.

[@elsaandnoah]

Great video. I like your insights and really enjoy the “discussion” 😊 👍🏻

[@josh-on-cars]

Thank you!! I’m so glad you enjoyed!

[@ggreg2258]

Very Much enjoyed your vid. In recent years, when I have gone to look at new Lexuses, I have had the same feeling that you have. So, I have gone back and bought an Avalon. Did so again in 2022 when I heard that they were being discontinues. Altho I really like it, I have thought that the 2013 I had was more luxurious. Don't know what I will get next. Was going to look at the new Lincoln but haven't done so as yet. We chall see. Thanks!

[@josh-on-cars]

I miss the Avalon! I was a huge fan of the last two generations of it. The crown is nice too but you can’t beat the older V6!!

[@darcyw5264]

Currently watching this video in my 2023 GX. You won’t be disappointed (although the trackpad may require some getting used to coming from a 14” touch screen)! You must find a dirt road to flog it on as soon as possible to feel its Land Cruiser soul-I was smitten with its on road manners (KDSS works brilliantly, and it has a smoothness and solidity that is very calming), but was even more happy after experiencing it off pavement. If you leave the center differential unlocked on the dirt, it even rotates nicely and feels very rear-biased. Had a loaded 2023 RX 350h as a loaner, and felt exactly the same as you with your NX. A decent car, with a shockingly efficient power train, but felt like I was home when I hopped back into the GX. The V8, rear-biased powertrain, hydraulic power steering, and old school Lexus build quality make it feel like it has a soul, while still managing to be as quiet and smooth, if not smoother, than the new stuff. Looking forward to your next video!

[@josh-on-cars]

I could not agree more!!! We just picked ours up and I could not be happier with it. I couldn’t believe how smooth, quiet, and refined it is. And we definitely plan to take it on a road-trip soon too!

[@chaumander9378]

@@josh-on-cars You got the GX?! what trim?

[@josh-on-cars]

I did! :) See the quick sneak preview here: kzbin.infoZI0lU-tm8-Q?feature=share

[@SM-le7qb]

I own a 2023 Lexus 350h, and I got a trade-in value from the Lexus Dealer after about 8 months of ownership that is 20% less than what I bought is at as I wanted another Lexus that they had that was a bit bigger. I gave up and kept the NX!

[@josh-on-cars]

Oh no, sorry to hear. Dealers will ALWAYS lowball you, though. Your best bet is to sell private party or to CarMax.

[@bradcolby3624]

I would get the LC 500, but I think you’re getting a final year GX 460. I had one and it was nice but a beast on gas. Totally agree with the quality issue. We bought the 22 RX350 and 22 ES350 F Sport. Traded in early to keep the V6

[@josh-on-cars]

It is, but I’m very fortunate to live in a place where gas is super cheap and so running something less efficient than the NX isn’t going to bankrupt us. And also, that’s a wise choice I’m so glad you got the last of both V6s!! Hold onto them for as long as you can!

[@bradcolby3624]

@@josh-on-cars you will enjoy the GX460 it will last forever and hold its value

[@josh-on-cars]

The “last forever” part is the hope since I would really love to keep my two cars as long as they will run safely! 😂

[@jackiedel623]

Josh do u feel the Venza will be going away? I had a difficult time choosing between the Venza and NX350 h. But the Venza price is just below the NX AND I WAS doubtful the VENZA WILL BE AROUND… SO JUST LOOKING FOR YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE VENZA staying power….

[@josh-on-cars]

Toyota has already announced that 2024 is its final model year, and the Crown Signia will be replacing it.

[@nikij.6058]

I agree with you that Lexus has lost their luxury stance.I’d rather have an older one to be honest!

[@josh-on-cars]

Yes, I would too! And so many others here have said the same!

[@kenaranas9363]

Not sure if your getting the current GX. I'm planning on getting one before it gets discontinued.

[@josh-on-cars]

Yes! We bought ours back in August shortly after this video. Could not be happier with it!

[@danb9048]

Congrats on the new GX , picked up min a week ago and absolutely love it, and by the way I also own a 4 Runner limited and won’t sell it also.

[@josh-on-cars]

Fantastic combo!! And yes, we have to keep these forever. 😂

[@ChristopherMCross]

If buying today would you buy the 450h+ or the RAV4 prime? Love your channel and appreciate your insight.

[@josh-on-cars]

Personally, I wouldn’t spend what the NX450h+ costs on an NX. It’s a semi-premium car but for $65K you can get a true luxury car. So, I’d much rather have a Rav4 Prime XSE, even as expensive as it is.

[@niffty5087]

No going to lie, we were planning to buy a new RX. However, we test drove a platinum hybrid directly following. Needless to say, we are now on the hybrid platinum waiting list. There was just enough difference to justify the price differential

[@josh-on-cars]

YEP! Exactly my thought too. And the same is true of the new GX and the new Land Cruiser they just showed. The only meaningful difference I see between the two is the engine. The interior looks equally as cheap and industrial in both.

[@steverogers7211]

I have a brand new 2023 RX 350 that I got in May and I already regret it. Agree with your sentiments, mine doesn't have a real piece of wood in sight. The full touchscreen with barely any buttons is irritating after a while. And the turbo 4 sucks ass. I'm also eyeing the v8 GX currently.

[@josh-on-cars]

The GX is worth every penny and I would highly recommend it. I love mine and wouldn’t give it up for anything. Especially not the new GX with the turbo 6. What’s really a shame is that Lexus purposefully made the RX350 and RX350h underpowered to drive people to the RX500h and that’s just such a scammy business practice.

[@richardkessler7828]

I see that you are filling up with regular gas. The NX 350 requires premium gas. At least 2023 model year. Thank you for letting me know, but it’s quite confusing when you You Google that question.

[@josh-on-cars]

The turbo might. But the hybrid runs fine on regular gas per the manual. 87 is the minimum octane rating.

[@TheRock3k]

Because Toyota is in BIG DEBT !! Look at their financials 😂

[@michaellui74]

Great video 👍👍thinking about getting nx450 plug in are all the electric windows laminated ?? Meaning double piece windows together ?? Thank you

[@josh-on-cars]

Hello! Yes they should be since they are on our Rav4 Prime as well. With the NX450h, be sure to lease it so you can get the incentives. That’s the only way I think it makes sense to buy one. You can buy the lease out anytime.

[@michaellui74]

@@josh-on-cars thank you new subscriber. I hat are perks of leasing??

[@josh-on-cars]

Here in the US, you can only get the $7,500 incentive if you lease. If you purchase, you’re paying the full price and I just don’t think the NX450h+ or the Rav4 Prime are worth their full MSRP. That’s the only reason I say to lease it.

[@michaellui74]

@@josh-on-cars thank you for the tip 👍🙏 can’t wait to see what you purchase next car. I might go for rx 450 plus

[@josh-on-cars]

Oh haha! This video was done while I was waiting for my GX came in!

[@danielp.52]

Hi Josh, You announced you were getting rid of your NX on July, 2023, we are now April, 2024 at the time I watch your video. What did you finally buy and why?

[@josh-on-cars]

Hello! Since this video we actually bought three things, LOL. Sold the NX for exactly what I paid for it, and traded into a GX (many videos on the channel about that), then bought a Prius, then flipped that into a final-year V6 Camry (6-month review video just went live today on that).

[@danielp.52]

@@josh-on-cars Zach and Andrea from Motormouth have compared the RX350h and the NX350H and they say they are almost the same except for smaller cargo space in the NX. However the NX costs about 10k less than the RX. They agree with you that the new models have more interior plastic parts which you say make them look like Toyotas. P.S. I have a now considered old 2010 RX350 with a V6 3.5L and I understand that you changed two new cars for the old V6 gas engines. When I change my car a few years from now (hopefully), I won't have much choice than to go with the new 2.5L engines.

[@josh-on-cars]

They are very similar although the NX is significantly smaller not just in cargo space but overall vehicle footprint. It’s on the small side of the compact class where RX is right in the middle of the midsize class. And as for not having much choice beyond the 2.4/2.5 I4s, that was the reality that we saw coming and why we decided to act fast last year and buy the V6 Camry and V8 GX we did. I think the new engines are totally fine but they drive so differently and the cars as a whole have gone down so much in material quality, and I just think the golden age of cars is coming to an end. Which is okay because as a whole the world needs to pivot toward more environmentally friendly technologies if we want a future here so I can support that too.

[@carlossalinas6234]

Currently with a ‘21 NX F-Sport and was offered to get into a new ‘24 NX. Both have Nulux interiors, but somehow the ‘21 feels more quality and even seems to have a bit more cushion in the armrests, and soft touch materials. Considering keeping my current NX and getting it Lexus certified?

[@josh-on-cars]

Hello! Yes, I wouldn’t be surprised if that is the case. It’s the same with the new 23 NX, RX, and likely with the new 24 GX (I won’t be trading my 23 GX anytime soon). I think if you’re happy with your NX and don’t desperately want a new car I would absolutely keep it (if you’re leasing, you can just buy it out and get the extended 8 year warranty). I would also suggest a 22 RX but that’s bigger and less efficient.

[@carlossalinas6234]

@@josh-on-cars Decided to keep and get it certified. It has very low mileage, so should be good for quite a while longer. They even got me a good price on the warranties I had on it for windshield, tires, etc.

[@rafffer3951]

I agree with you lexus are getting cheaper and lost the spark as the older vehicles

[@josh-on-cars]

YES. Entirely.

[@joelthorne7434]

I noticed that a Lexus dealer in my state of New York has in stock NXes with VINs starting with J, indicating Japan-made, which is preferable as you have stated. If you don’t mind my asking, do you pay cash for your cars or finance? I can do either.

[@josh-on-cars]

Hello! I don’t get super into finance (mainly as I’m not a financial advisor) but I’ve paid cash, financed, and leased in the past. If it’s something I think I’ll want to keep for a while, or if interest rates are high like they are now, I’d pay cash. If it’s a euro car or EV, it’s leasing all the way. And financing is fine too as long as you’re putting enough down to always be ahead of depreciation. Interest rates are sky high right now. The targeted offers I get with my top tier credit are around 7-8%. Ouch.

[@tangotea7192]

You're right. Lexus use to be a true luxury car. I was going to trade my Avalon for a 2023 Lexus 350 ES but it didn't feel luxurious and I felt my Avalon was better. I eventually just bought a Venza since it was nicer and if I'm going to drive a car that looks like a Toyota it will be a Toyota.

[@josh-on-cars]

I actually would disagree about the ES350. I would absolutely buy one today before the V6 goes away, and if I were to buy one it would be the Ultra Luxury with the semi-aniline leather and noise reducing vapor chrome wheels which I would prefer over an Avalon. That said, the Venza is an absolutely terrific vehicle and hope it serves you well for years to come!

[@kcfernandez6424]

In your video when you got the new NX 350 hybrid, you mentioned that should it be totalled, you will replace it with another NX 350. Well, maybe it was flipped because it was never totalled

[@josh-on-cars]

I did, and it’s a great car and if I didn’t have the means to buy the GX, I would have definitely kept it. But we also don’t have the need or space for four cars. I also would have happily kept it if we didn’t have the Rav Prime which I like more because of the powertrain and how little we paid for it versus how much it’s worth and how much a new one goes for today.

[@cgrinna]

Josh, love your videos. I'd like to purchase a certified pre-owned NX hybrid. Can you tell me how much of savings I would see as compared to buying new? And, what year should I focus on? Thanks... Carl

[@josh-on-cars]

Hello! I’m assuming you’re talking about the new generation NX (2022+), and if so, you might not see much in terms of savings because NX hybrids are still in such high demand. The biggest savings you’ll see would be on a 2022 but I would avoid the 2022 as it was the first model year and buying a first year of anything is never a great idea. I’d look for a 2023 but the price differential might not be enough to justify going used versus new. And, If you can’t afford to get a new NX, you might look at getting a new Venza Limited since I hear they’re not selling well and they’re being discontinued at the end of the year (so you might find some discounts). The Venza Limited is basically an NX for about $5-10K less.

[@cgrinna]

@@josh-on-cars Thanks for the reply. love your video's. (from Ann Arbor Michigan); Going to try for a 2023 model NX 350h premium hybrid. As you say, they are hard to find. So may have to go for a new one. Cant believe Lexus is not making more of them to meet the demand. Will be watching for more of your videos. Thanks again.

[@josh-on-cars]

@cgrinna How cool, I have family there! Also I think at the price of the used ones around me it makes sense to spend a bit more and go new anyway! Thank you!

[@MrNmeantime]

I agree with your comments about Lexus having three in my household I see the difference. I have a 2005 RX330 that everything still works and it has very fine quality. What is considered luxury? Illuminated door sills, headlight washers the front seats have armrests like captains chairs. I could go on. I decided to to keep it despite 3 offers to purchase the vehicle. Also, we have a 2019 RX450h and a 2022 GX 460. I've always admired the GX but I do feel as if it is the stepchild. The ride quality sold me but I hope I'm not regretting the purchase.

[@josh-on-cars]

Yes! That’s exactly how I feel too. I also feel like Toyotas have gotten so (relatively) nice inside while at the same time Lexuses have gotten less nice too and so now both Toyota and lexus vehicles can occupy the premium space… it’s weird. Also, you have a GREAT garage there and if I were you I would hold onto the RX450h and the GX until they literally die of exhaustion one day.

[@mattph76b]

I agree that the difference between Toyota and Lexus is not as distinct as in years past. We're looking for a PHEV and have been primarily looking at the RAV4 Prime and NX450H+. We expected the NX to be much higher-scale than the RAV4 Prime. To our surprise, options like a panoramic moonroof and heated rear seats are only available on the RAV4. How could that be? The Lexus only offered a standard moonroof/sunroof, and had less trunk space to boot. Only the NX had the Parking Assist though, which is something we want, so rather than compromise, ultimately we're going to wait for the 2024 BMW X3 Plug-In.

[@josh-on-cars]

Hello! Have you thought about the RX450h+? It’s a big bigger than the three you mention here but I think it may offer the features you’re looking for. I’m with you on the NX PHEV not offering the upgrades being really strange. And to me the price point on the NX is way too high to justify. The RX PHEV may be as well, though. As for the X3 PHEV, I think it’ll be a great choice as long as you know what you give up by going with a German car. I would definitely not want to own the first model year of that car, so highly recommend you lease, and be okay with spending a ton more up front and over your ownership term (plus much higher depreciation at the end of it).

[@robertalvir7173]

I miss my two 1990’s SC300 coupes … fit, finish, performance and a LOT of soul 😢

[@josh-on-cars]

Those were AMAZING cars!!! I would miss them too!!

[@M5_Sonu]

While I absolutely love my GX 460... The LX 570 has my heart!! I also miss my 2015 RX F-Sport (my first Lexus!) .. Test drove the new RX and.. what a let down!

[@josh-on-cars]

I completely agree! The 200-series Land Cruiser was always my dream car. Couldn’t afford to buy one before they were discontinued, but it’s just as well I didn’t need something that big, and I love my GX too. And entirely agreed at the new RX as well.

[@jakubsamek3069]

Just curious, why do you need so many cars if you drive that little? Sorry if you already explained this in another vid.

[@josh-on-cars]

Haha it’s a great question! Cars are something of a passion for us. One of us commutes to work 5 days a week and the other commutes 2-3 days a week and so we do need two cars, but I personally have always wanted and loved the 4Runner and GX and so we’ve kept one of those as well. The GX I want to keep in pristine condition and maintain for the rest of my life.

[@jakubsamek3069]

@@josh-on-cars heh alright i get that. These are really cars to buy for a long run. Cheers

[@TheDavidandre610]

I know, you guys are getting the 2024 GX 500 Hybrid Pro Max 😩😌👏👏👏🎉🎂

[@josh-on-cars]

Oh noooo. I’m most definitely not interested in the new GX, lol!!!

[@TheDavidandre610]

@@josh-on-cars oh sorry, I didn't think it would be a sedan like the LS, ES,... 😌 😌

[@josh-on-cars]

Haha! No worries this video was actually from right before I got my 2023 GX so you weren’t far off!!! ;)

[@terrishaw4079]

Just found your channel. I see you are a fellow Texan, do you think Austin has good Lexus prices? San Antonio only has one dealer.

[@josh-on-cars]

Hello! Depends on what you’re looking for. Lexus of Austin and Lakeway are great and sell strictly at MSRP which is a double edged sword. They don’t mark up but they also don’t discount. So if you want a 24 GX that everyone else is marking up, absolutely go to them. But if you’re looking for something that usually has discounts, I’d look elsewhere.

[@FaniaSands]

Ok I’m guessing you’re getting the GX 😊 excited to see what you did get!

[@josh-on-cars]

Haha thank you! We pick it up on Friday, so all will be revealed soon!

[@PotatoQuality88]

Just found your channel. Subscribed! Do videos of your rav4 and 4runner.

[@josh-on-cars]

Welcome aboard! Anything in particular you want to see or know?

[@txsuz]

Ha! You buy cars at the same place I do! Anyway, my NX is on the way and made in Japan. I hate the engine noise, and it doesn’t have as much vroom as I’m used to but my body doesn’t either. 😂 One thing you said in another video worried me. We live in the Hill Country, so I’m not a city driver. That said, I hope I can enjoy this better than the RX I only had for 6 months. 😅

[@josh-on-cars]

Hello! I just replied to your other comment. I hate to be a debbie downer but if you’re disappointed by the old RX, I don’t think you’ll find anything better in the NX. Lexus has a very different mission than Genesis. If you’re after the same kind of experience you had with Genesis you should really be looking at BMW or Porsche (or the Genesis GV70). I’m a diehard Lexus fan who doesn’t particularly care about sporting driving and even I am not thrilled with their new cars.

[@txsuz]

Thanks so much! I will see if they will let me out of the deal. I sure appreciate you!

[@josh-on-cars]

@txsuz Before you do, test drive one if they have a used one or something sitting on the lot. Color/trim doesn’t matter as long as the engine is the same as whatever you have on order.

[@txsuz]

@@josh-on-carsOh, I drove one on Saturday.

[@lozada1971]

I agree 100% about the new Lexus’s look like Toyotas with a Lexus badges and prices. Same reason I waited to see the new GX release and decided to get the 2023 GX460 Luxury with the Sport Package. I traded my 2021 - 4 Runner TRD Off Road Premium. Sold it for 40k.

[@josh-on-cars]

Congrats! I did the same! Waited to see the new one, laughed my ass off, and went to buy a 23 instead.

[@dr.freddyb.wilson4541]

You must be getting a LC500!

[@josh-on-cars]

Oh gosh no, I love the LC but it’s not my kind of car. I bought a 2023 V8 GX.

[@dr.freddyb.wilson4541]

@@josh-on-cars Wow! What a difference ! I was right about the V8 though

[@josh-on-cars]

Yes! Absolutely had to get something with a V8 before they went away! I’m just not a grand touring car kind of guy.

[@Palmvim]

Can”t wait to find out!

[@josh-on-cars]

Picking up the new car on Friday!! Will probably do a quick video sometime soon thereafter!

[@billyrock8305]

A sad day 😞 Enjoy the new RX Josh! I’m waiting for the all new redesign incredible 2026 RAV4 Hybrid and PHEV!

[@josh-on-cars]

Haha thank you! And I also can’t wait to see the next Rav. I don’t believe there will be a full EV as that’s exactly what the BZ4X is supposed to be.

[@billtotten6896]

Do you think the 2023 or 2024 ES350 still has that Lexus luxury or has it too has lost its luxuriousness?

[@josh-on-cars]

I really like the current ES and would highly recommend getting one before the V6 goes away. I would absolutely buy the Luxury or Ultra Luxury trims (the ultra luxury gets noise cancelling wheels) and option in Mark Levinson and the panoramic moonroof.

[@gomusicproduction1]

Something tells me you’re going to get 2022 beautiful 3.5 L RX 😊

[@josh-on-cars]

Possibly! All will be revealed soon!!!

[@kennyx6796]

i agree with you. i'm an employee of toytoa HQ and long time 4runner fan and see same thing. lexus and toyota are great cars, but paying so much more for a lexus seems wasteful

[@josh-on-cars]

That’s awesome! I worked for Toyota back when HQ was still in Los Angeles, and will actually be up at HQ in a few weeks from now! Need to get a good pic of my GX outside the Lexus lobby. 😂 But I’m glad, but also sad, to hear that even Toyota employees feel that way.

[@Bs4shure1]

What car are you buying. The Venza is very much like the car you are selling

[@josh-on-cars]

Check out the other comments from other folks. It’s in there, and it’s not a Venza, it’s a Lexus with one of their older engines. ;)

[@ilyashick3178]

Owner 2019 lexus nx 300 hybrid and no way I can change my mind to sell this one soon

[@josh-on-cars]

Great choice!

[@janscott127]

I love my 2019 nx f sport.

[@ilyashick3178]

!!!@@josh-on-cars

[@robertallen5210]

Lexus - "The relentless pursuit of profits."

[@josh-on-cars]

Sad but true!!

[@gardyjoseph7542]

I totally agree with you about the decline of the Lexus products. I am on my third Lexus and I am disappointed with my current by the loss of pursuit of excellence. A lot of cheap black hard plastic in a CDN$75,000 car, a lot of exposed components under the hood as opposed to my old one, and the worst for me, in the new models, is the 4 cylinder engine. Sorry Lexus, the engine is not worthy of a luxury vehicle. Acura, here I come. Lexus, you need to pull up your socks.

[@josh-on-cars]

I could not agree more. Everything you mention here is what lead us to buy the new car. And specifically the engine. It’s not worthy of a luxury car. A premium car, sure. But not what I think of when I think of a Lexus vehicle. As for Acura, I really like the new MDX, it looks great and it’s still got a terrific V6.

[@Wasabi9111]

I miss the Lexus (and Toyota) of the 90s and early 00s. I was a huge fanboy and They were so nice and quiet. I’m always looking for the ultimate isolation / relaxation car. For the past 15 yrs, I’ve been surprised how noisy and cheap Lexus and Toyotas have been. now we’re full EVs as they’re completely silient

[@robertalvir7173]

Btw, I think you are giving us all a head-fake on your next car … it’s really going to be a Mazda CX90 😂

[@josh-on-cars]

HA! I do really want to test drive a CX-90 and see how that inline 6 is!

[@bradtrades]

Sounds like you buying my dream car- the LC 500

[@josh-on-cars]

Noooooo I wish!! That’s a dream car of mine too but I’m in no place to be buying a $100K+ car! 😂

[@PreparationdobleH]

IS 350 F

[@josh-on-cars]

Not quite but I do love the IS350!

[@FilmScape4K]

After driving a RAV4 Hybrid as a loaner, compared to our v6 hybrid RX , the RAV4 is a step down in every direction. Refinement, comfort, material quality and just feels like it was built on a budget - carpet that doesn't even line the entire boot with plastic wheel arches!

[@josh-on-cars]

I mean… I think anyone would expect that a luxury car would have much nicer appointments than an economy class compact crossover? Not sure what the point here is but in any case, the Rav4 is built for budget minded shoppers and considering you can get two for the price of an RX that makes a lot of sense.

[@mandelatv1989]

Ls 500?

[@jayholiday256]

I’m seeing beautiful cars like the new NX and RX, they look great compared to their Toyota counterparts.

[@josh-on-cars]

They do, and they are still great cars but they’re just not the same caliber of car that Lexus used to produce.

[@faradaycool4058]

Lexus was understated, elegant, refined and reliable. I felt smug driving one around for 20+ years. But no more, they have lost their soul. The dealership in Singapore's lack of spirit makes it worse. I think Lexus globally is dying, something I never though I'd say.

[@josh-on-cars]

I completely agree with the soul but our dealers here in the US are still first class and best in the industry. It’s just a shame the products aren’t great like they used to be.

[@Diogolobofernandes]

ES ftw

[@antoniosrazis9341]

Unfortunately this is turn me off is the materials they use. You pay so much money and you getting a cheap car. I have an 2018 RX 350 and a Mazda CX5 and the CX with $15k cheaper has a better materials.

[@josh-on-cars]

Yes, I completely agree they need to step up material quality on these new models.

[@rishinarang9966]

LS, LX, or GX

[@josh-on-cars]

I wish I could have bought a last-gen LX or LS!

[@rishinarang9966]

@@josh-on-cars Serms like it’s a GX! My family has an order down on the 550h+ for the Lexus TX since we need the space, and I just realized that it might be eligible for the federal tax credit as it’s built on the US!

[@josh-on-cars]

It might be LOL! And the TX should be eligible for half of it, assuming the credit terms are the same by the time it comes out, as the battery isn’t made in the US at the moment (that could also change too). Cheers!

[@rishinarang9966]

@@josh-on-cars Cheers! Also im curious about the all new Lexus TZ trademark. It could potentially be amazing or they could most likely and unfortunately blow it. Reason being it is coming is 25 which is right before solid state batteries and it is questionable with as to whether it will get the upgraded lithium ion battery tech. I think for a 3 row SUV that comes on sale in 2025 it should have 375mi range minimum. We have gotten sick of the rav4 road noise and we are forced to turn to german options for an EV.

[@josh-on-cars]

Yeah, I’m with you. I don’t think a Toyota or Lexus EV is in my future until they can get to solid state batteries and make them at affordable prices. The TZ is going to be something along the lines of an all-electric TX but built on the eTNGA platform which more than likely means all the less than desirable things about the BZ4X/Solterra/RZ.

[@thisissacred8679]

That's why I went to Range Rover..Lexus took out all the elegance out of their vehicles.

[@UYT7715Flower]

So why did you buy NX in the first place?…

[@josh-on-cars]

Go watch my other videos for all the details but I was looking for a compact, efficient daily driver. I was originally looking at a CR-V or Venza but both were a crazy long wait at the time and was able to grab the NX. We’ll probably buy a Civic or CR-V hybrid in the coming year to replace the NX, but likely not another NX.

[@swedishbob_7315]

LC 500

[@josh-on-cars]

Hahahaha! I wish, I can’t afford one. 😂 Maybe if I sold both cars but not otherwise.

[@Jack_Hunt]

I'm curious to know if you think the Lexus depreciates in value quicker than the toyota rav 4. i've heard luxury cars tend to depreciate quicker

[@josh-on-cars]

Hello! Mine barely depreciated at all but keep in mind depreciation isn’t dependent on any one thing in particular, but rather market conditions as a whole. Right now these cars are in high demand, you can’t get one (and I don’t see that changing for a while), and they make far fewer NX350hs than Rav4 hybrids so there’s much less inventory. There also aren’t any other full hybrid luxury compact crossovers (so the NX is the only game in town) but there are many other non-luxury compact crossovers (so there are other options if someone shopping the used market can’t get a Rav). And then in the long run, it’s also about how you maintain the car, how much you drive, and what the market is like at that point.

[@mervinprone]

If you’re getting the GX, it’s a dinosaur. The new one is super cool looking and still has a V6. A year from now you might be flipping it for the new one.

[@josh-on-cars]

I think you’re missing the point of all this, what I want is a dinosaur, so the current one is perfect for me (bought it yesterday). And I can pretty confidently say I would never get the new GX, the exterior is cool but not to my taste (so much unpainted black plastic) and I think the interior just looks terrible.

[@gregthomson7889]

Its easy that Lexus is no longer as good because they are made in North America now. Look at the Mazda CX 5 in the US It's made in America and has north american quality but in Canada it's made in Hiroshima Japan and has much better quality.

[@josh-on-cars]

How interesting! I’ve never looked too far into Mazda but that’s great insight to have, thank you! Mazda’s horrid resale is what’s kept me from buying anything from them even though I think their cars are great.

[@gregthomson7889]

@@josh-on-cars The resale values are bad because of the turbos they use to make they couldn't be any worse unless they made them in Korea.Also most people don't know this but the CX 5 has improved because Ford is now out of the picture and Toyota owns part of Mazda and it shows.Just put the original CX 5 and a new one up on a hoist and look underneath they are not the same mentality on how they are made.Out with Ford in with Toyota.Also the motor and 6 speed automatic is rated as one of the best as long as you don't get the turbo.Whats interesting is the new CRV hybrid in real world fuel economy isn't much better than the CX 5.And the paint quality and thickness is even better than the CRV and if you measure it around the CX 5 it matches the Lexus NX 350 in some places.If you are worried about resale the only vehicle to look at is the RAV 4.

[@MrOktsx]

I would offer to buy your NX (I'm in Oklahoma) but a co-worker has your exact interior/exterior color combination in F-Sport trim. I wouldn't want to look like a copy-cat.

[@josh-on-cars]

Hahaha!! That’s too funny! It’s a great car if you go with a different combo!

[@MrOktsx]

@joshandjohnshouseoftoyotas I'm thinking on reserving Windchill White and Atomic Silver and see what comes in. I'm picky. I'd prefer black and cream interior but might consider palomino. I'm willing to conced a little, but I'm really wanting heads-up display, triple beam headlamps with cornering lamps and 14" touch-screen.

[@josh-on-cars]

Oh either one would be fantastic. I like atomic silver on the GX and ES but I think the NX is absolutely striking in the windchill Pearl. If you’d be open to it, the white over Rioja red combo is HOT too. But palomino is also really nice. I personally don’t care for it in the black and cream because there’s so little of the cream color inside. Also, you definitely shouldn’t compromise on any of the features. The HUD and 14” screen are both must have for me. I could take or leave the headlights but not the others.

[@MrOktsx]

@joshandjohnshouseoftoyotas My partner and I have discussed it, and I really think I could go for the Rioja red interior in either Windchill or Atomic Silver. I wasn't very open to it because of my co-worker's car..but what the heck? I actually hated the Palomino at first but might be able to live with it. Palomino seems more jarring to me than Rioja red. I've owned 8 white vehicles in my life. They're so easy to keep clean and are very forgiving when it comes to swirl marks/imperfections. It'd be very hard to change...

[@josh-on-cars]

I think you should consider it. And again, the white exterior with red and black interior is so hot. I agree with you at palomino being jarring, the thing I don’t care for is that EVERYTHING is that Amber color. Headliner, seats, everything. I’m okay with that when it’s beige or a neutral but the palomino is a saturated color. I like that with the Rioja red that I have, the headliner is black so the seats really pop.

[@lisasouza6741]

I have a 2022 RX350 and have had SO many issues, transmission, not starting, and rear hatch sensor-it's bad!

[@josh-on-cars]

Oh no! So sorry to hear that, sounds like a lemon…

[@777leoperez]

I’ll buy that car from you. Reach out

[@josh-on-cars]

Sadly my NX is long gone, this was way back from last summer.

[@markn0024]

You mean there are still new RX 350 V6's out there?

[@josh-on-cars]

Not anymore, sadly. I think the last of them have been sold.

[@rafffer3951]

GX GX GX

[@HanLin-c2g]

very obvious GX460 now

[@josh-on-cars]

Haha! It quite possibly could be. 😄

[@jpdoc5722]

GX ( Japanese made) is more value for money💰 than the NX

[@josh-on-cars]

Absolutely agree. The NX is a great car and excels at things the GX can’t even touch but overall, I’d much rather have my GX any day of the week.

[@dapperlygrungy3189]

IS500

[@josh-on-cars]

Close, but not quite ;)

[@dapperlygrungy3189]

RC

[@dapperlygrungy3189]

Please don’t tell me you are getting an LC

[@josh-on-cars]

Hahaha! Everyone keeps asking that but nooo, I can’t afford an LC. 😂😅 I wish I could, though!!

[@josh-on-cars]

And no to the RC. Not a fan of it… if I were to get something like that it would be an IS for the 4-door practicality.

[@your_royal_highness]

I will not go back to Lexus anytime soon. I dumped my F Sport NX after a year as it was cramped, noisy, incredibly slow and no fun to drive…..

[@josh-on-cars]

I hear you, I’m not a fan of the new turbo that’s in the NX and RX.

[@redache467]

RX

[@josh-on-cars]

Close! We bought the last year of the V8 GX.

[@randy74989]

Well, it's a Lexus RX500h, LOL.

[@josh-on-cars]

Nooo, I will not buy another Lexus with a 4-cylinder LOL. And this one won’t be a hybrid! ;)

[@randy74989]

@@josh-on-cars Well then, it's a GX460, naturally aspirated V8, and you want worry about gas prices. And, I believe those SUVs require premium gas. I bought premium for my wife's XC-40 two-days ago and it was $4.349 for Shell premium here in Houston. Price of gasoline is increasing weekly and we have plenty of refineries here in H-Town. LOL 🤔

[@josh-on-cars]

Haha it may be! And yes, but I’m well familiar with having a gas guzzling SUV in the 4Runner, which I actually put ethanol free gas in (which is usually as or more expensive than premium but better for the car because it just sits in the garage more often than not). So, if it’s the price I pay to have the car, it’s worth it.

[@randy74989]

@@josh-on-cars Just remember gasoline starts degrading after three months, so just sitting in the tank is not good. Pure gas begins to degrade and lose its combustibility as a result of oxidation and evaporation in three to six months, if stored in a sealed and labeled metal or plastic container. Ethanol-gasoline blends have a shorter shelf life of two to three months.

[@HumperMKB]

Some v8 “F” ….

[@josh-on-cars]

Sadly the only true F is the RC and that’s not my cup of tea. If the GS F was still around I may have seriously considered one.

[@dchang168]

Totally agree about the luxury issue about Lexus. Its situation is getting more like Honda and Acura now. The interior of Lexus is simply copy and paste between NX and RX. Toyota and Lexus cars used to have its individual personality but now they are in clone fashion.

[@josh-on-cars]

Yes! And not even just copy and paste of themselves but also the quality and materials in these new cars (especially RX and GX) is not better than Toyota, just different.

[@plupluplutus]

​@@josh-on-carswhat about sound insulation?

[@josh-on-cars]

@plupluplutus I find very little sound insulation in the new cars. Maybe 5-10% better than Toyota but not enough to pay more for the Lexus, IMO.