Why We’re Leaving Donut - BIGTIME

[@mightycarmods]

It is time… let’s go boys!!

[@lambie604]

Would love to see a MCM-BigTime crossover video!

[@someperson7]

✌🏻

[@wadeing8136]

Hell yeah MCM

[@SlowBoyGarage]

MCM4LYF

[@Someoneudontknow1231]

MCM and Big time maybe? 4 boys one car or something idk

[@InfiniteCheeseCrates]

You two are the biggest reason I kept watching Donut after "Up to Speed" stopped.

[@player1GR]

I loved tech kitchen or whatever

[@player1GR]

Oh, science garage actually

[@tankiadam4967]

I really liked up to speed, I didn’t realize that it went away and that I missed it

[@REXae86]

Science garage and Up to speed CARRIED that channel.

[@leviathan5207]

Up to speed did not just stop abruptly, it got too "memy" imho. The later episodes are just full of jokes and miss a lot of key information, only scratching the surface level.

[@antikruxx]

Money pit miata is what got me into donut. We dont need 100k budgets on a build, they are fun, but unobtainable for most viewers. Money pit miata was in depth and made building on a budget look so fun.

[@Vexing_4000]

Yeah me too, I actually bought a miata a few months ago because I learned so much from zach and working on his miata

[@maory1076]

yea me too

[@krisg.4257]

Totally agree. MoneyPit Miata was cool because was just a guy in his garage trying to improve his cheap little sports-car and that's what they should focus on. 👍

[@terryderry_]

I hope the driveway era money pit comes back

[@cameronbutler5802]

Donut needs to ship the Miata over to y’all

[@dohcturbo2]

Bye Bye Donut, Hello BigTime and Speeed

[@AWDBOOSTEDTSI]

Yeah BUDDY!!

[@piratesteve1651]

correct

[@pocketlint421]

Already unsubscribed from Donut

[@raylenmeissner7174]

@@pocketlint421 As much as Speeed and BigTime are better, and donut is not giving the hosts we love freedom, as of right now it is Nolan's and a lot of other amazing people we all love's lively hood, so I'm staying subbed for now. Hopefully they don't let fear keep them there.

[@pocketlint421]

@@raylenmeissner7174 I just don't enjoy their content anymore and I haven't for some time. It's gotten too commercial for me and not as authentic. Good luck to Nolan and the others tho.

[@TheKrausenKid]

First reaction : abject horror. Second reaction: Thank God I'm not the only one who noticed that Donut has become trend chasing clickbait corporate nonsense.

[@theman0015A]

Its sad you can tell the guys there like James and Nolan are not happy with it either, but they no longer control what content is made.

[@cayman401]

On the one hand yah im sad what the channel turned into... on the other hand im feeling abject relief that this wasn't due to someone didling kids or assaulting someone or some other messed up shit...

[@iandesoucey9369]

It's been that way since they first hit the viral circuit, did they get worse?

[@jillhoffman9179]

Donut stuff is so overproduced. Music is wild, foley is way too much, cuts every second - just simmer down. They hit their stride about a year ago and now it’s nonsense

[@TheKrausenKid]

@@iandesoucey9369 it was headed that way slightly but it REALLY got crazy after that first Nissan ad. That's what started multiple tiers of advertisements where you could pay to not have the yellow bar at the bottom. It became a lot less about the community and more about grabbing a new audience you don't have to care about every video.

[@BMWUSA]

Respect.

[@MrSkier124]

How does this comment not have more love

[@elementalphoenix920]

Spanish or English, OR GIMME FREE BMW

[@NicolasAbstender]

Bemmmmmmeeeeerrrrrrrr

[@jishan6992]

Nah ain't no way BMW official commented, that's crazy

[@2010hyundaielantra]

A whole ass car company hating on donut (well, what's left of it) is wild

[@beltron-_-7208]

James is why we fell in love with donut, Jobe and Jeremiah are the reason we’ve stuck around since 2019

[@haimiah]

This is true, and the fact that Nolan is my spirit animal 😂

[@SubZero_4553]

Nolan and Justin are great as well. But you are 100% right.

[@moshnroll507]

Haven’t seen James in a video for a couple weeks tho

[@CalamityBaird]

@@moshnroll507 was just wondering where he's been

[@texmex9721]

Whenever I don't see James in a video my first thought is I hope he is still alive.

[@themexis]

Just watched James' vid over at Speeed. It led me here. Can't wait to see what you guys have for us!

[@cipherbass]

Same, excited for both of their channels and I’m subbed to both now! I hope Speeed and Big Time get together for a few collab videos. We would LOVE that.

[@MrBoomBlops]

Same.

[@jcap8391]

I'm confused. So James is going to be doing hot takes on brands like Nike and Carhartt? So no more car stuff? I seen his speed channel video it left me confused. I don't want him talking about that sht😅

[@themexis]

@@jcap8391 same beast, different animal? 🤷‍♂

[@thrill2310]

​@jcap8391 he's still going to do car stuff. he's just expanding to other interests of his.

[@John-shreds]

The KZbin algorithm boosted you. This was at the TOP of my page. You guys are going to kill it. Love you all!

[@blackbriarmead1966]

I’m frankly offended it wasn’t recommended to me lol. I found out from the comments on the latest donut video

[@rimavlogss]

It was the first video on the top of my feed too!!

[@CRTV_C]

Also very top of my page as soon as I opened the app and I couldn’t be happier. One of the only times I’ve been impressed with KZbin and the algorithm lol

[@i_dont_know_anymore223]

It was on the top of my feed too but tbh I thought it was fake

[@NerdyThrowbackTech]

Same here

[@juanin200]

Donut slowly went from a channel about car and racing history, car science and car builds to a channel about testing cheap products and reacting to other videos every week. Hope you guys can really take it back to the OG concepts with this channel.

[@kingsplex8974]

I pray for it.

[@kx250fforlife]

I mean it was pretty obvious donut was a dork that didn't know shit about cars. Since day 1 I knew all these other guys carried the show, he just hired the right people while not knowing what was going on with his own youtube channel.

[@Uoyabrox]

Well if you wanna hear them do history stuff you should listen to one of their podcasts Past Gas

[@devonwatt2194]

@@kx250fforlifewho are you talking about? Lol Donut is a company not a person

[@MikeStavola]

​@@kx250fforlifeJohn Donut should go back to his travelling dentistry business, and stop trying to sell car parts.

[@RoninEnslaught]

We ALL want 1. Racing 2. Car builds 3. Bro time 4. Knowledge We know you two will provide

[@99highlights]

Facts

[@jay2sauxxyy706]

Hell ya 🎉

[@xxpapabakedxx-5110]

Get more female mechanic

[@sevequinn7070]

Damn right

[@someperson7]

You don't speak for me. ...It's just a coincidence that I want all of those things 🤣

[@TheManInTheRing]

When corporate buys a company, tries to tell creatives what to do, they scatter, sun goes down, they pop up tomorrow in a new place lol You guys have the talent, we will come with you! lol

[@suoretaw]

Well said.

[@WE500CD]

PE ruins everything

[@DertyWerk12]

Money Pit is the main reason that I started watching Donut. I was a massive fan of that show. It did a great job of showing what most of us deal with when working on our cars. Most of us don't have a full garage dedicated just to our project car let alone a lift. I think the majority of us are rocking Harbor Freight tools and whatever we can afford that works. The first season of Money Pit embodied that to me. The struggle is real for most of us. My favorite moment of Money Pit was a shot of Jobe laying on his back under the car holding the miatas transmission looking so frustrated. That was the most relatable shit that I ever saw on Donut. Glad to see you guys stepping out on your own.

[@plama101-it2ks]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZm1gZttfciLrNksi=Daqbw5dSTDA5KtrL

[@geocatwizard]

Donut definitely has gone from best friends in a garage making videos for the people to best friends making videos in a corporation for the corporation, I share the exact same feelings and feel this is the right move

[@ThePgilla1hop]

Yea I've been waiting for a money pit S14 or something like that or even just a continuation from the old miata. It was a really good middle ground show imo for high low too since high car had stupid expensive shit and low car was wayy too cheap

[@mircoheitmann]

money pit was truly great, i was looking for my first car during that time and i think it's not a coincidence that i got an NA miata (since then i've learned wrenching myself and still own it and love it)

[@redacted3610]

Absolutely. The first season of Money Pit was the most relatable and enjoyable series I've watched on KZbin.

[@knowing1399]

You guys were 90% of the reason I watched Donut, so the fact that this channel is the two of you, im all for it.

[@Titan12]

Honestly same. I do appreciate James but man you can't beat Jeremiah and zach

[@eekee6034]

As a fairly recent Donut... convert, :) these two are the face of the channel for me; I don't know the others. lol

[@juanjmal]

Same man!

[@zero_day_xsploit]

James is Untouchable but I like the guy on the left so im gonna support and Donut dont put shit out anymore like the old material … I would even take James Buying cars and modding them just cuz he’s so regular it would feel like if I was doing it ..if that makes sense

[@mattrhoton9219]

Same here bro

[@-GGarcia-]

Holy crap guys…I’m sad and excited at the same time. Loved you guys at Donut, low key, it will be hard to watch it without you guys there. Looking forward to seeing what you cool kids do with Big Time!!

[@SpongeMan-rahh]

Yea exactly sad and excited lol😅

[@N_g_er]

@@SpongeMan-rahhgay

[@djmyth84]

Same here!

[@zzzambiesss]

Same

[@BayareaXotics]

They said they are still going to be at donut

[@AutoAuctionRebuilds]

Man I never thought you all would go separate ways. I understand exactly how it feels to have a company you helped build sold and no longer listen to your creative input that helped build it all while telling you to just do what you're told. I helped build Mystro in SF, CA into a million dollar company then got kicked to the curb when it was sold off. Props to all of you I'll be following along.

[@CulturaVJ]

B2B, Money Pit, Up to Speed, Wheelhouse, Science Garage and that type of content is why I became a Donut fan. Over the years, I saw how less and less content like that was created. I stayed for the little nuggets of the content released from time time that resembled what I loved fromthe crew. I wish you nothing but the best, count me in!

[@phillipclark9914]

This! I miss the old shows.

[@ExCordeEnt]

I agree 100% I stayed in it for the boys but I was becoming more disappointed with the content overall. Not that it was bad, just not what brought me to subscribe. Zach & Jerry are gonna do great things!

[@AlexisPerez-qk8ho]

I feel the same way! And now I see why that content fell off. So I’m looking forward to BigTime blowing

[@Alexanderswereld]

So true, i do love the hi low and newer content but miss all the old showcases/educational content

[@link9k]

We know you wont have the budget Donut has, but our hearts are with you. Lets fucking go!!!! You were the reason why many of us were watching donut

[@bradthackston5217]

They can if we help that’s the thing people don’t realize if we help each other we can be successful.

[@TheRealiamWilliam]

Donut had to start somewhere. These guys have an audience already, that’s huge.

[@ChrisElamPhotography]

#truth

[@DroneStrike1776]

@@bradthackston5217 No, they can't have the big budgets like Donut, don't lie to yourself. I don't think you understand how big Donut actually is now. They're bought out by a multibillion dollar company and has expanded their clothing line all over the world. Besides, they don't want it to be as big as Donut.

[@cmak4563]

I think low budget is a lot of the appeal of many channels. I don't think this one will be different, and as they grow in following and money, so too will the content. A grassroots beginning is a ton of fun to experience as a viewer. Good luck boys.

[@JakeforJesus]

Relatable garage builds > reaction videos

[@ChefandTheArbistor]

I don't know what you're on about, Donut makes car reviews and mod stuff more than reaction content.

[@thecommoncollector]

@@ChefandTheArbistor😂

[@obamaphone5412]

@@ChefandTheArbistorokay donut media burner

[@yudachi8385]

@@ChefandTheArbistor My man cappin so hard, new donut might even hire him as staff.

[@zajaka4164]

the view counts disagree with you buddy, sorry it's the truth.

[@rayh3899]

I started working as a freelance automotive writer a couple years ago, and your channel was incredibly helpful for me to understand car concepts that weren't clear to me at the time. I'm here for the ride!

[@dheitz5830]

Kudos to Donut for letting you two announce your new channel on a Donut video. Immediate subscription.

[@flywan]

Pretty sure they're still friends, I mean James is married to Zach's sister

[@randyx3976]

​@@flywanfr?

[@FJB2020]

@@flywan James doesn't own Donut.. They sold their souls to the worst of the worst media companies..

[@OGjerseyfice]

Shows Hoonigan how it should have been done!

[@Decipher13]

Donut’s trying to avoid the fate of Car Throttle lol. Smart move.

[@tony9146]

The moment Donut sold equity to an ‘investment group’ sealed its fate. Random suits looking at Excel spreadsheets started pushing for cashflow metrics and ‘maximizing value’ without a care as to the core values and pedigree of Donut. Thank you for making this brilliant decision and I hope to follow your success with this new channel.

[@wanderingbufoon]

yep, those suits only care about the numbers because the moment they get kicked out or burned the company to the ground, they've built their portfolio and made their money. All on paper, they were successful but in reality, they were poor managers.

[@eag8999]

Donut had pedagree?? 😂

[@jg-di5it]

Private equity ruins everything

[@jonnyseverin8861]

They were sold in 2021 so unless you have disliked them since then and all their series then it wasn’t just the private equity that ruined them

[@ShengFink]

@spencer6044you say “improving them” but what that actually means is optimizing them to make money. Which is fine, but it certainly doesn’t improve the content in my eyes.

[@LChanceF]

You guys just started this channel, have 1 video and ALREADY have 865k subs. This speaks volumes to how much people love you guys and are looking forward to your next chapter.

[@TailHappyTV]

this is the comment I was looking for

[@MegbunkeVR]

its been 3 hours and hes gained 20k wtf

[@Anime2077yt]

It’s fake

[@stasysjurgaitis5179]

If the marketing guy is involved. Well played!

[@austinpro123]

900k 6hours later Sheeeeeeeeeeeesh

[@jamestantillo7401]

Saw James’ farewell too… why didn’t you guys do something together? He really praised the two of you for taking Donut into its third-wave, post-Covid, and seems emotionally attached to you. Maybe personality, money?.. both? Anyhow, stoked to subscribe to the new venture, boys! 🤘

[@kym25061]

I used to watch Donut religiously, but it all changed when they got rid of my favorite show "This is everything you need to know to get UP TO SPEED!!!.....". I loved the backstory on the cars, engines, and designers. I friggin loved that segment alone.

[@Bizbinski]

Same. I realized they were starting to go big corporate around the same time they cancelled that show. My daughter and I used to watch it all the time. Now it’s all shit tbh. I liked Aaron Parker when he was around too. It’s a shame the wholesome channel this originally was is no more.

[@zero_day_xsploit]

I LOVED that nothing comes close

[@DISOPtv]

Moe powa baby

[@drippingwax]

They stopped Up to Speed before I started watching and I don't think I ever saw one. "What you need to know about [name I don't know]."

[@ryandavie7436]

Same!

[@LouisWritingSomethingCrazy]

One of the reasons I haven't been watching Donut that much is because it stopped feeling like a group of guys having fun in a garage and started feeling like a business automotive YT channel. I won't say the soul was lost, but it had changed.

[@josephburdette8518]

I’m right there with ya

[@thebrowns5337]

most the soul was gone compared to day 1

[@EvilStitch]

It started to feel like Mr. Beast but for cars. I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed the dip in quality at Donut.

[@BingBangBrine]

same with doug demuro

[@afikkusan]

You know Donut is falling apart when James, who known as the most explosive, expressive one on channel started to look burned out and losing passion. I noticed that from the last 2 years of his involvement in videos, he looked tired and don't want to do it anymore. That's definitely gotta do with the "business owner" not listening to them anymore.

[@hellofilip]

I've noticed a shift in Donut's priorities for some time. The old content catered to real gearheads, while the new focus is on clicks. Some content, like the build series are still dope. This change is a common reality in business; as profits grow, the close-knit atmosphere fades (or the company risks bankruptcy lol). I'm really glad you took this leap-it speaks volumes about your character and passion for the art.

[@zaboo4088]

I’ve noticed the same. So many random sponsored videos these days like “driving a brand new Toyota Tacoma!!”, which is completely uninteresting but I know they’re raking in the money for that type of content. Private equity and the endless growth mindset really ruins everything.

[@foxphire0093]

As I have observed KZbin over its life, I detected this around 2014, especially when google got more involved and the money really started flowing, then the first adpocolypse, and the tight-knit relationship with creators and KZbin the company drifted apart faster and faster. I agree that it is a fact of life in business that cash is king, but I still yearn for that Creator-run platform we had all those years ago.

[@Mister2j86]

I think the channel in the whole got bought out by a media company so they bumped up their budget but at the cost of creativity

[@mikebrowne477]

This video really hit home. I started with my company 12 years ago and it was just 125 people globally and we used to all know each other and just do things. The culture was amazing. We got up to 1500 and then got bought by a company with 230,000 people and have no idea what is going to happen. It's very sad. You guys are inspiring me.

[@aniyn]

Ya, series like Money Pit and Up To Speed are gone, replaced by Tiktok reactions and "testing" chinese garbage accessories. Nice to see some wrenching again.

[@CameraGuy19]

What first got me into Donut was the science guy explaining tech stuffs and to this day I still don't even know his name. James and you two and Nolan are my favourites and hoping to see you guys do more stuff together even outside if Donut.

[@hasonmall]

Tbh, Hi-Lo was my favorite series because you got to see actual comparison of a range of parts. Wish you guys the best, can’t wait to follow along.

[@TheDirtySkirtz]

💯 For real! Bring back high low

[@T7M7P7L7R]

they did the Z platform dirty, it made my head hurt watching it

[@stuartstone6540]

That's why I subscribed to donut was because of the hi-lo series

[@aaroncrumpler9587]

@@T7M7P7L7Raswell as the wrx it was unfortunate but it was pretty interesting to watch

[@devonwatt2194]

@@T7M7P7L7R for real, they completely botched the end of the Z series. They milked the hell out of any content they could get out of those 350s before they moved on to the Tacos lol

[@tristankrieger8264]

Nothing Donut puts out has the same feeling as their cheap vs. expensive 350Zs, up to speed, and money pit. Those days were the peak.

[@adamrook2760]

I miss Up To Speed

[@thexchox1554]

You missed an even better time when they had Bart

[@xx_ironman77_xx1]

@@thexchox1554 science garage yeah those videos were pretty good

[@johnboy4955]

Up to speed was the best

[@雪狐-c7k]

fr nowadays they are just advertising different stuff on all videos

[@GlobalNomadPete]

This explains the Rise of Jimmy. Good luck fellas. Subscribed.

[@EliciousKalu]

lol was thinking the same thing

[@alitty3224]

Next man up

[@vyvanse70mg]

Jimmy Industry Plant

[@Clockinspector3000]

Donut 2 - the rise of Jimmy- sounds like a movie title lmao

[@ThePerks2010]

Can't stand him, I've seen wardrobes with more on-screen charisma.

[@jonathanchavez2366]

I honestly watched donut media just because of you two’s content. I loved every bit of it and im glad you two have collaborated! I loved the hi-lo series where you two, nolan and james were on too. i loved the hi-lo, money pit, diy or dont, science garage, etc cause im no mechanic but it taught me a ton on what to get and not to get, what to diy and what not to diy, where to dump money and where not to. I liked it cause you guys made it so easy for anyone that doesnt have the experience to understand how it all works. I appreciate you guys and i hope this channel grows for you guys! Im staying tuned!

[@TheProgGuy]

I like how they mention Bart and Science Garage, because the internet still talks about how great that segment was. Glad to see internally it was the same way.

[@GG-wj9in]

Shit was so good

[@MAGNUSGARAGE]

Bart was super funny and informative. Hard to find.

[@ShiiitIDK]

What happened to him?

[@ZacharyParks-h2o]

Yea bring back Bart!

[@IchiBeemo]

@@ShiiitIDKhe had a kid and never renewed Science Garage after his parental leave. I believe he is now a producer at MotorTrend.

[@Scknows]

"I was a comedian working at an engineering company" is the most Workaholics lore ive ever heard lmao

[@plebbin.]

gottabefresh

[@sammiches6859]

I usually experience the opposite.

[@raverbunniaz]

It's common out here. I'm a musician moonlighting as an engineer

[@Jesus.X]

Fahim anwar was also an engineer for boeing.

[@8visuals365]

Welcome To LA

[@carlosdominguezOri]

First scene: long shot, no music, no one yelling, no fast cuts, no rush, just the sound of someone working on a car. Thank you and good luck!

[@BaumSquadm24]

Going back to the roots with the all star crew. This is what I want. It's sad seeing great content creators going away from what many people fell in love with and going to the big time view stuff. Very excited for this channel.

[@illused]

​@@BaumSquadm24"it's sad" but it's what we demand as a society 😊

[@jjtorres3734]

You know what would be cool? That after you guys set up the path of the channel, that you can have cameos with James and Jesse along the way! Supporting y'all, let's get it!

[@FacetiousUsername]

You two were the best part of Donut. Starting a channel together is the best possible outcome!

[@jbrookley]

Agreed, James was too much for me and I kinda had to stop watching for a while. Too much of the video became about him rather than whatever the video was supposed to be about

[@ET2carbon]

​@@jbrookley I stopped when they got COVID political

[@dwnforcemedia]

Jeremy from ECS here, Zach you were one of my favorite guys to work alongside there. If you ever need photo or video work hit me up dude. Congrats on the big move, proud of you.

[@Northeastcaper]

If you still work at ecs get me free shipping in canada

[@yaboimula579]

Your areally solid guy, Im glad it's not really bad blood, I hope one day we will see a collaboration

[@samyoule]

@@Northeastcaperdawg you’re lucky if your package even arrives from ecs

[@bamdragon25]

Zach should go back to ECS on the side honestly

[@guylerquintal8923]

@@yaboimula579

[@KonnerClimbs]

The fact that they already have 1mil views and 400k subscribers shows how much they really are loved

[@michaelgiffen480]

So true

[@nicholasboule5134]

Donut fucked up bad. You can’t let your stars go

[@ryangura6477]

I was gonna say the same thing

[@commonsenseisdeadin2024]

really shows WHO Donut was.......

[@Suicidepappi]

To bad that Donut and channels on KZbin are for “Car Guys” not actually enthusiasts

[@reallybro00]

The humbleness and humility you endured is why i will follow you to the ends of the earth, you cant buy integrity, thank you guys.

[@BusinessBlunt]

740K subs with just this one video so far... you guys will be just fine. We felt the changes you talk about and we agree. We're here for whatever you want to show us.

[@davidallen5257]

Exactly.

[@oddmanout1807]

I said it months ago. Commented a few times knowing it would fall on deaf ears.

[@trifasss1]

just 2 hours later 770k

[@ghostly5866]

literally watched it roll over to 770k lol

[@joshuamason8992]

@@oddmanout1807 lmfao cringe, bet you commented this everywhere

[@thatonesadcapguy]

Mark my words, THIS will be THE BEST car channel on the internet. Two of the most entertaining creators decided to open up a channel where they can do what they want. It will feel homey again, it will feel like friends doing things again. I wish you the best guys, we are here for the whole ride.

[@federicodecuadro5672]

Donut was getting a bit too "mass entertainment" instead of "car content for the regular car enthusiast" hope this guy take it back to the good old days when they would actually show you how to work on your car with a real down-to-earth budget. Also loved Up to Speed fell like it was very educational!

[@jodyforbes9752]

BIGTIME!

[@SammyNail]

Iunno, MCM is pretty tough compotation. But if anyone got a swinging chance, its these guys. The only other ones that got close was RoadKill and I haven't watched that since it went paywalled.

[@SangheiliSpecOp]

@@federicodecuadro5672 There was one Donut episode where they made two massive errors in the same vid. They said a dodge viper had a v8 instead of a v10, and then they went on to describe the 2005 Ford GT as having a ecoboost twin turbo v6 instead of a supercharged V8 and ever since then (maybe a year or year and a half ago) I started questioning things lol

[@Umar-gw6fy]

This channel already feels a lot more personal it brings a chill vibe please keep it this way

[@mercuriallimit]

@13:46 that right there is just a pierce to my heart man, the first time ever anyone has said what I am going, I know many people are facing it, but it's really healing to me to hear someone said that to my face. As a creative person, you can only take so much "no"

[@MrV50volvo]

The 2 most charismatic and arguably most loved guys leaving donut is just a big loss for them and you both will be doing really really well.

[@someperson7]

They were definitely underutilized

[@antknee420]

You dumb? Everyone hates Jeremiah

[@Matt-kl5xl]

That wasn't really the point of this video. It wasn't anyone's loss.

[@efdbjon2114]

@@Matt-kl5xl it reallyt is a huge loss for donut lol

[@meangreen99]

im happy for them but i could give a shit about ANOTHER S14 build on youtube. let alone a ANOTHER low budget one. theyre not gonna be HI-LO on their own. Theyre gonna be doing LO-LO every time now.

[@brianwoznik9868]

Absolutely shocked that Donut didn't move the earth to keep you two. You were the lifeblood of those videos. I'm also surprised that so much was going on behind the scenes with writes, producers, directors, etc. It makes sense now that 10%+ of every video is advertisements.

[@josephoverstreet5584]

I mean I expect these guys to have ads and sponsors as well. They’ll have a hard time making ends meet strictly from yt view revenue

[@conedx]

ads are how these channels exist. if this one doesn't have ads, it won't last long.

[@jsplit9716]

@@conedx ads and merch. You need to sell merch if you want to build cars that people want to see.

[@windexlover4921]

Someone didn’t watch the video

[@timmytommy2921]

They watched the video just like everyone else. And I have to agree with their comment. These guys are a massive asset to Donut and the corporate penny pushers that don’t understand that just let millions and millions of dollars in value go. Like the OP comment said, they should have moved heaven and Earth to keep them at Donut. Offered them massive pay packages, company equity, direct control over the content they produce, budgets to pursue the projects they want to work on. But the corporates said nah and will now have a slowly dying channel as the faces we tune in for are leaving. This and James taking a backseat will lead directly to the death of Donut within a few years. Which is fine, honestly. Once something is gobbled up by corporate, it ends up sucking. I love all the guys and gals at donut and will continue to follow them as they slowly splinter off. I’m here for them, not the name Donut.

[@EngineeringExplained]

Nothing more beautiful than true independence; y'all are awesome and having the complete freedom to implement your own ideas will be a joy - congrats on the leap! See you at the shrimp bar with the rest of us jaded auto channels. 😘

[@I_love_drifting]

You and big time are my fav KZbinrs ngl

[@Bianks84]

Seeing you here along with Marty and Moog just gave me a happy moment of appreciation for our community 😊

[@carrot_slayer_of_patatos]

@@EngineeringExplained nice seeing you here

[@Thelifeofrojo]

The fact that Donut Media didn't say thank you on your announcement but said thanks on Speeeds Announcement rubs me the wrong way. Team Bigtime all day baby!

[@spaszek195362]

the two people that kept me watching donut cutting out all the other stuff to just do their own thing? subbed and bell

[@jacobes306]

Fr

[@reecebauer5261]

For real

[@CAMBIN0]

Most accurate comment yet

[@user-yc6ob3xv8f]

100%, them talking about getting to do less of the stuff they like echoed my own feelings about how much I enjoyed the old donut videos

[@nicolasmarceau3137]

Facts!!

[@9991083]

I didn’t even know some company bought DOUNT. No wonder why the videos’ vibe changed. Keep it going boys!

[@yourlifeisagreatstory]

It’s important as fans of this new channel that we sit through the adverts. It’s free money for them and it’s only a couple minutes of our day. WATCH THE ADs!!!

[@Klokopf52]

@@yourlifeisagreatstory Why should i watch an add on a video that is basically one long merch plug with some super low effort reaction content sprinkled into it? In fact why should i watch that at all? Donut did take a huge dive in content quality in my opinion, so the two leaving and starting their own thing fills me with hope.

[@ThrustingPickle]

​@@Klokopf52They clearly mean on this channel, not on every random channel. Especially not ones like Donut that became soulless corporate bleh

[@CamTooling]

@@yourlifeisagreatstory Simp. I use adblockers (plural) and sponsorblock. No one's getting a cent out of me.

[@robertlovesgothgirlz]

​@@yourlifeisagreatstory I don't think I will

[@fellowninja]

The fact that Jeremiah and Jobe are even in a position to leave Donut and be this close to a million subscribers already shows just how much talent and influence they have. It's obvious that Donut has settled into reaction content and partnerships with other companies, and that's okay, too. After everything they've made over the years, they earned it all. I hope James is able to retire comfortably, and it's no wonder why Jeremiah and Jobe stuck around as long as they did. I can't wait to start supporting you guys, buying merch and viewing content. I rep the Donut hats I've bought every time I go out, and if your merch is the same quality, I'll be buying it, too. I got my buddy in Canada into Donut, and he's the one who told me about Bigtime. We'll both be tuning into your channel, and we'll still support Donut. I have such a backlog of videos to get through, but it's some of the best, most infectious stuff I've seen on KZbin. Godspeed!

[@bhoffman8984]

Agreed. Their numbers on this video are insane. Leaving donut was probably the best decision both of them will ever make in their lives and it paid off immediately, literally!

[@caseyknott14]

Couldn’t have said it better man

[@frankcooke1692]

James never owned Donut. I'm pretty sure he just worked there, and I don't think any of them were paid *that* much. They can't even afford new clothes. There seems to be this narrative (I understand you're not pushing it) that James Pumphrey built the whole channel from the grassroots with his own determination and sweat and tears and then 'sold out' to the corporates. No, the channel was always a 'product' started by a media group and was backed by investors. That media group then sold that product to another corporation, because that's how money works. As always happens in these situations - the new bosses cleaned house and want to do things a different way because they believe it's a better way to do business - which is what Donut Media is.

[@Yesssssir29]

@JacobsNewsy’all mofos are weak minded. Just run off the deep end with everything

[@nrares21]

Wait so they just announced somewhere outside Donut that the are "moving to a different channel video there go sub", and all these 940K subs are people form the Donut channel who just like Jeremiah and Jobe the most and wanted to see more of them???! Like, it's not a bought channel with a name change or sth?

[@shakeyoulikehaiti]

I will say, $60,000 then, and even now, is more than the average household's income. That's not bad to start lol. I'm sure as your involvement in the channel increased, your salary increased dramatically as well. There are a lot of people trying to do what you guys do, starting at $60,000 is a MASSIVE blessing man. I'm glad to see you guys are doing your own thing now though. If you are capable of generating the kind of following you have with your names/images, you will never have to struggle like you did before Donut again. Congratulations on your new ventures my dudes. You've earned it.

[@erichoffman2479]

60k a year in California means you're poor lol that's like minimum wage out there

[@SixtyBee]

Not true. Most retail in LA live on 40-50K

[@dragonbrownies517]

60K in LA is just above minimum wage

[@shakeyoulikehaiti]

@@dragonbrownies517 Full time minimum wage in California is $33,280 as of 2024 at $16/h 40 hours a week. Making 60k is nearly double minimum wage lol.

[@shakeyoulikehaiti]

@@dragonbrownies517 I think he said he started in 2018, but it might have been 2016. Based off of $11/hr minimum wage in 2018, $60,000 is nearly triple the minimum wage at the time lol.

[@ConnorDamewood]

It’s important that you both know: we as the fans and audience noticed the changes that pushed you both away, and we are all on your side to blow this channel up by taking it back to grassroots builds and making the content YOU love to make. It translates through the screen, I can promise you that. Money Pit was amazing and we want more like that, so stoked for you boys!!

[@davis74398]

agreed

[@bubbasvega2316]

Facts

[@domtom79]

Please make a "Prove-It" series, where you take aftermarket upgrades and prove whether or not they meet their claims. Love to see some before/after dyno's on Cold-Air Kits, Cat-Back exhaust kits, Downpipes, etc etc etc.

[@tinyrodent2821]

Great idea, would help us guys who don't have the budgets so pick and choose the mods between repairs

[@CanuOTP]

Oh yeah

[@hondussy]

Mighty car mods did that already

[@johnsrandomness]

I like this idea

[@ethanspaziani1070]

YES

[@SuperDad1776]

I am so glad you guys are teamed up! Thank you for all the inspiration and entertainment over these past years and here’s to many more! ❤❤❤

[@coreymeisenheimer1724]

I'm hyped. Zach doing ACTUAL car stuff is why I ever watched Donut in the first place. If Beremiah is gonna do bike stuff as well then they've got me hooked already.

[@KeithMRoberts1]

You two guys are the reason Donut was so big over the past 3-4 years. I love that you now will have your own channel. WOW. Congratulations! Yes, I've subscribed.

[@2alawabidingcitzen]

Don't forget James

[@robjohnston1026]

@@2alawabidingcitzen James was overrated, annoying, and worthless in the shop. Plus most of what he said was written by Jerry.

[@maverickslastoddworld6476]

​@@robjohnston1026damn dude calm yourself

[@zuesadam7143]

This gave of Car Throttle vibes Once Alex left it was all downhill from there From Top gear to Donut When will people realise it's not about the brand, its the people

[@forsakenace9577]

It’s not necessarily donut or top gear’s fault. It’s corporate bureaucratic bullshit is what ruins good shit.

[@ΣτελιοςΠεππας]

Yep, that's the circle. Small creators make good content that feels authentic or improvised or both. Faceless corporate giant buys the brand. The original talent either leaves or becomes so constrained that they stop being themselves. The brand loses everything that made it good and, at some, seizes to exist. Rinse and repeat.

[@FJB2020]

@@ΣτελιοςΠεππας Blame the HJIC for selling it out...

[@piemasta93]

Thought the same thing

[@AuroraMercedesVT]

honestly if James left donut, it would be going downhill from there too

[@Drewdiesel508]

High low and money pit were the two best series EVER. That’s what got me to fall in love with the content

[@TravisGillum]

I was one of those people that thought you guys owned Donut so, from that perspective, it's about time you all start benefiting directly (and proportionally) from your efforts. I'll watch every episode and buy the merch - you got this!

[@bharris474]

100%! I thought for sure those original crew had a stake in the company. To hear this hurts, personally.

[@lukegenn4204]

@@bharris474 From the sound of it they did have a stake, just not as much creative control as they would've liked

[@Edwin--]

If 650.000 people subscribing after your first video isn't a sign people appreciate the work you do, I don't know what is. We look forward to what the future brings, we're here for it!

[@elantran2803]

It's at 665k rn, insane 😅

[@RealMrRobinson]

​@@elantran2803669k now

[@JujFuj]

​@@elantran2803671k now😂

[@TehRubberMoose]

673k half an hour later lol

[@anonymoose219]

And not even 10 hours later they are on 720k 😂😂😂

[@thelaw_00]

The thing I don't like about new Donut is they focused on entertainment. The thing I love about old Donut is it being educational. It being inspirational to get people into cars. Bring back the science, car/racing history, mechanics, Money Pit style videos, Hi/Low Season 1 style videos, etc. The new entertainment-focused Donut is not bad but it's not the same Donut I used to love who inspired me to get into cars in the first place.

[@omikron6218]

I was kinda getting annoyed by all the sponsors and videos that were just big commercials

[@JP_A3]

yep donut is over produced now, miss the days of the money pit mx5

[@CompComp]

@thelaw_00 - I agree. As cool as the Baja ranger is they've dropped over $100,000 that's not something I (or most people) can associate with ir get inspired to do. ​@omikron6218 I don't mind sponsors as long as it's not some sketchy drip ship thing or random VPNs, etc. they gotta get paid somehow. You can still have integrity while doing a sponsor read. Plus, you can skip the commercials lol

[@scottbenton1822]

They even mentioned how they wanted to work on Science Garage and it was canned before they got there. Science Jobey is a hilarious, insightful, chaotic, force of nature and I love every second of it.

[@FJB2020]

@@omikron6218 You can blame that on the new owners.. They did that to the Bob Villa show when they took that over too.. Just giant adverts disguised as a video... It's crap and I hope donut succumbs to their own greed..

[@OneZoNinja]

Oh contractual obligations huh? You mean do the same thing you were doing at Donut, only for yourselves and completely unhinged? Right on! You"ve hit the Big Time!

[@atousonk]

sad to see this separation but even sadder is what donut became in the last 2 years where is wheelhouse, bumper to bumper,up to speed ,money pit ,high low . i was eagerly waiting every afternoon for all of these.

[@HashbrownNav]

fr they got bought out and began churning cheap, generic content that literally anyone could make. The new content is devoid of the personality that made us fall in love with Donut in the first place.

[@Usiris23]

Exactly. I unsubbed a couple months back cause shit was boring

[@ricolmao6969]

Man some of those videos helped me with depression. Money pit got me out of bed and into a shower on days I couldn’t

[@Usiris23]

@@ricolmao6969 let’s hope BigTime brings you that same comfort and relief from your stresses

[@luukpeeters9474]

the only show that actually got me excited to watch was henry with his x90, and ofc the old school stuff, but mr. moneybags doesnt see money in not following the trend

[@ProudFilthyCasual]

These two leaving feels like the end of an era.

[@lazyboy858]

its the start of an era dude

[@cerberus1166]

@@lazyboy858 not without james it isnt. he started donut.

[@Davespackey]

They are the era..

[@ScrubLordJenkins]

That era ended a long time ago. Now they're onto something new

[@johnbarker2650]

​@@cerberus1166 so that eras over, it's. It the same but that's part of it being new

[@sandydelrosario6748]

I’m glad they mentioned Bart. I loved Science Garage.

[@microchrist6122]

I remember hearing Bart wasn’t stoked on how things were going even back then lol

[@thelaw_00]

Guess he jump ship when the time was right

[@mantovaneli]

I missa Bart! He was awesome

[@carlshannon3040]

Bart was the best! Then Jobe/Jeremiah were the best! Now Nolan? (not a dig, Nolan has been a staple for a long time - his time to shine)

[@Mr.JimPickens]

Bart was the reason I found Donut

[@noahsussman7713]

I think I can speak for everyone here, you guys grew that channel yourselves 100%. I don’t care if you had bosses telling you what to do. that was all your effort and creativity and that’s what grew the channel. If someone at apple creates a new idea for the iPhone that is super successful that credit goes to apple as a whole. This is different from our point of view as the viewers. you guys ran that channel. There’s no saying otherwise. You guys taught me so much and brought a creative side to your passion and Mine, and I really really appreciate what you fostered. Thank you guys.

[@slow88LX]

"As the only 2 guys who did any work at Donut....we decided to leave." 😂😂

[@igork9691]

Actually if they get Aaron to join them that would be THE BEST

[@aidanmcguire8976]

@@igork9691 I was thinking the same but I forgot his name 😆

[@MM12684]

You know they joked about possibly maybe hearting this comment.

[@JoeBleaux69]

What does donut do these days?

[@MyLungsStillBurn]

​@@JoeBleaux69reaction content

[@andremartinez3000]

I basically stopped watching donut about a year ago. You could tell the channel just wasn't the same anymore. I'm stoked for you guys! Bring back the old school content!

[@TokinAg08]

Agreed... it's become WAYYYYYyyyy too formulaic... super predictable "safe" content.. I'm excited for the future with this channel. I'm down for the ride!

[@skyedoesnothing2535]

lowkey same, it feels like the quality of the vids has gone down over time, i didn't even realize it but i havent watched donut in ages

[@Eco19]

Donut and hoonigan went downhill fast…

[@JoeMACofNAC]

@@Eco19throtl too

[@damiangonzalez9261]

You guys carried donut for 5 years, truly the best the channel offered. I’ll be tuned in for however long you’ll have us

[@josecervantes6069]

I don’t think they carried donut. I feel like it’s James and Nolan that do. I subscribed mainly because of James’ personality in Up to Speed series. As well as the “father/son” references between the two

[@doctordumbass9425]

​@@josecervantes6069 James is my least favorite of the main cast. He's fkn annoying. Now there's absolutely no reason to watch donut

[@JHMBB2]

Agreed. Whenever either of these two were involved is when I actually clicked on a video.

[@jonelsorel]

Guys, glad I found your new channel and props for the new path you're taking and godspeed! I hope you know that you were a big part of what made Donut so good.

[@StrongBarnes90]

I stopped watching Donut a couple years ago because it was becoming click-baity and lame. I'm so excited to see the two serious/informative guys breaking away to give us better content. Thanks guys, excited to see what happens.

[@TelosDextroza]

Indeed!

[@eviljesus84]

So what you're saying, is that you disliked Donut, before disliking Donut was cool? 😅 Dayum, we got a badass over here 😂 P.S. Out of curiosity, how many years is "a couple"? Seeing as how, by some definitions, Donut as a whole is only 'a couple' years old 😅

[@jf8188]

⁠@@eviljesus84good lord you are that type of annoying person 🤣🤣”ps.” Donut is almost 10 years old… so yes a few years ago is very possible.

[@codygregg6683]

​@@eviljesus84Lmmfao did you just use a joke they did in the video. And do it in a smug way like you thought you were witty because of it?? Lmmfao sucks to be you I bet.

[@geroutathat]

But they are admitting it was entertainment guys not car guys, and they are entertainment guys not car guys. I get it, you enjoy it and these two are going to give more information etc, but you need to put it in its place, have fun watching, but talk to real mechanics etc.

[@l800LEMMINGS]

I like how they didn’t sugar coat it. It was honest but respectful

[@PhilStar.27]

As an Englishman, an idiot, and a very part time donut viewer. It took me a VERY long time to realise you weren’t both the same person.

[@keloduma]

You're not alone and you're not an idiot

[@wbdharris]

Not alone and I realize they don't look the same.

[@phlogistonstudio8261]

You’ve been fooled. They are the same person and this is tricks with mirrors and camera hacks.

[@aamirkhan-ps1cn]

😂😂😂😂Same

[@DenonGregory]

Despite them like looking different they seem similar even their presentations. I always thought they were the same person lol.

[@kevindepew5029]

So awesome to hear the full history of Donut. You're definitely the one who got me hooked with Up To Speed. Cheers to bigger and better things! I'll for sure be here along for the ride

[@jameshaulenbeek5931]

Bart was the reason I started watching Donut, and you both drew me in more. I didn't realize Donut was acquired by another company, but that makes sense as that was the time I started losing interest in it. Let's make this *BIGTIME*

[@kimtacata751]

Wish they would bring bart back

[@CaptainOinkOink]

Man, Bart was such a good host aswell! Hope he’s doing well too

[@joefields719]

B. B. B. Bring Back Bart

[@zachhofen4871]

Watching Jobe work on the Miata is the entire reason im still into cars today.

[@Jonathan-eb6sh]

he inspired me to work on cars and buy a miata 🫡😼😼

[@NobodyCaresLI]

Hes the reason i built a 240hp na6 and watched donut for years.

[@kirkmorris9761]

Same.

[@JohnMarshton777]

I was an og donut fan, and an og donut detractor. Im glad yall are doing this. We need REAL car content. Not that corpo bs.

[@ruben3305]

Same here bro, I was there pre 500k subs. I stopped watching after I after noticing that the donut content was forced and the magic/chemistry wasn’t there anymore.

[@sqlevolicious]

corpos ruin everything, and they never learn

[@jaminguizar4615]

@@ruben3305 i also stopped watching and only really watched once in a while once they realeased some big production stuff, but i realized that I stopped because the videos just seem too robotic almost like ai scripted hahah

[@KingtmacXX92]

Hell yeah, i love this. By far my two favorite personality's from donut, and in my opinion the most experienced and knowledgeable mechanics from the channel. The way both of you are able to explain everything in such simple manner has helped me a ton with my vehicles. Thanks for helping some of us dummy's learn the basics of mechanics and keeping it fun!

[@SP.unknown]

Jeremiah is just that guy. I mean, he talks about how he wasn't exactly favored at first, but 5 days after posting these two almost have a million subs. 🐐

[@frontball2754]

Talk about the ultimate getting your tires pumped hey? Can’t imagine the relief these two boys got after so many views and subs in so little time. Super excited for you guys!

[@FleetTech97]

These 2 are definitely the best out of the donut crew

[@cbruh1k]

Glad you guys are better off! Excited for motorcycle content, maybe a trackday?

[@Mrmecom2]

As a person who left a corporate machining job to go home to a one man shop turned three man shop over night, so worth it. Congrats boys. I will do my part to contribute to your success.

[@ajbriles3647]

Hell yeah!! Best of luck! I'm currently in school to become a machinist and I absolutely love it

[@Mrmecom2]

@@ajbriles3647 it’s fun, but negativity around the work place is where I lost that spark for my old shop. Regardless, stay out of the drama, make good parts, don’t be the cocky I know everything just outta school kid. And when ever you can, pick the old timers brains for advice on work holding or how they would do it. I learned more working than I did in school.

[@ajbriles3647]

@@Mrmecom2 Not at all! I'm super careful about the machines. They honestly scare me. I'm also taking a course on mechanical drafting and designing. My plan is to potentially go to college to be a mech engineer depending on how my career develops

[@Mrmecom2]

@@ajbriles3647 I was thinking about going back to school for that, but I decided I wasn’t interested in it after a while. Maybe one day, but I’m learning a lot from my new boss on designing.

[@Blank-kg9vf]

Without both of you guys this channel and company is dead.

[@thatderek]

Donut went from 'must watch' to 'watch if I can't find something better', to 'when are they gonna start making car videos again' to 'gonna pass on this video but I guess I'll stay subscribed in case they make car videos again' RIP Donut, Welcome to Bigtime. 😊

[@Osmorales90]

Yeah dude... Happened to me too... 😢😢...

[@davidnovansky7295]

Same

[@mecadragoon]

i subbed to them when they still had 300k or so subscribers and i watched every video up until a couple 1 or 2 years ago when it just stopped being interesting but i still haven't brought myself to unsubscribing

[@brandonsparks9747]

Same. Channel just isn’t the same anymore which is sadge.

[@Tombstone-b6i]

@@mecadragoon the rally e36 was the fall off

[@franz2820]

I stopped going to school a year after COVID hit and couldn't decide what to study for college. I was watching Donut everyday while on lockdown. Now I'm in my 3rd year of studying automotive technology and these guys are such an inspiration to me.

[@Breaux_boat]

when channels get sold to private equity they lose their soul. donut. Hoonigan. Etc. Glad to see y'all do more down to earth content

[@Hardscrubbin]

Yeh when the owner dude started showing his face it got a bit weird and more hoonigan like.

[@ThunderGoatz]

Car throttle, driven media? Some others too I think

[@jjcoola998]

Until they sell it in four years, but it will be GREAT until then (and i won't blame them to never work again)

[@coltonkruse2313]

I had such a feeling that donut would go the way of hoonigan. Just could feel it. The money and views just brings the corporate vultures out to play. And they had such a big cast/crew.

[@Autodidacct]

I mean zero disrespect to Donut when I say this. You two were the reason I watched that channel. I so desperately wanted more of the Miata money pit type content and WANTED you guys to work on that S14. I’m excited for the future for you guys. I think it will be bright. I know I’m not alone in my sentiments.

[@burdeegirl]

The Moneypit Miata has helped me so much with motivation to fix my own Miata. I bought it for cheap and it needed work, but more work than I realized. It's been a year and it's still not running right but it's been sitting in my driveway for a while now. Seeing this comment reminded me that I need to get on it.

[@KirkKiyosadaTome]

I remember thinking Donut was just an OK, mildly fun car channel. Then Money Pit began. I was then forever hooked. If you guys can transport me back to that magical time (to which I have zero doubt), I would be immensely grateful. Thanks for everything you guys have done; looking forward to what is to come.

[@BenJuan26]

This was my experience too. The first stuff I saw was Up To Speed, and it was great. It was well written, and James towed the line of goofy, funny, and sincere. Then Money Pit was pure gold. Most of us have been there -- a car that we love but can't help modifying, things go right, things go wrong. Zach was a fantastic host. Then the listicles and Wish review videos became the norm, and I pretty much stopped watching. It's comforting to see that that was the experience of Zach and Jerry as well. I'm sure this channel will be great.

[@_waxavi_]

Love u guys ❤❤ this has been a whole nostalgic ride coming from watching james video as well, I hope you all stay close! You both have always been one of my favorites and Im so excited to see what's coming up from that amazing mind of you two!

[@glizbane]

435k subscribers for a channel that's three days old, only one video uploaded with zero automotive content. You two honestly felt like the heart of Donut, and your 435k subscribers will probably agree with me. I'm honestly super happy for you two being able to chase your dreams, and finally do something that makes you happy.

[@glizbane]

On a totally unrelated note, I have a sweet 1997 Volvo 850R that needs some love. You give me the word, and I will be happy to drive down to LA so you can make me look good 😁

[@jhnoakez]

My fav 2 donut guys for sure!

[@commonsenseisdeadin2024]

​@@glizbanedude, sick car!

[@Sol0666]

3 hours laters its 50k higher higher 😂

[@feelincrispy7053]

The channel isn’t 3 days old. However it was still only created on the 21st of may. Pretty impressive

[@bajacore]

Donut went from being a fun, light-hearted group of "car guys" to a corporate media machine. MCM stayed true to who they were and their fanbase has been loyal from day one. I hope you guys do the same cause I've enjoyed watching you guys over the years.

[@stylepoints.180]

Nah we in Australia are getting bored of MCM as their just doing the same boring nugget cars

[@justmechanicthings]

MCM have become more corporate and sponsor reliant for sure

[@mikemaffe]

The same thing happened with Hoonigan it’s honestly sad

[@El_Negro2003]

I mean they would lose money on videos without sponsors because car parts are expensive and they also got to pay the editors so they got no choice but to be corpo

[@TinoR626]

@@stylepoints.180 I think the last thing they did that was really good was Kie to the city after that its all the same and lets be honest it was never really great but at the time it was the best we could get.

[@DocRiversEnthusiast]

You writing the script for James makes so much sense now

[@nur_aesthetics]

Honestly! It is that warm feeling to see you guys all doing what u enjoy to do and learn from it for us fans. Saw James’s one also. So proud of you guys😎

[@Fifthcell]

When Donut started to be in car manufacturer’s advertisements, I knew it was becoming a corporate hellhole

[@McNasty43]

Same thing happened to Hoonigan. Everyone's gone now after Wheel Pros gutted the whole operation.

[@idriveastationwagon1534]

I knew something was up at donut when they was trying to sell me a Nissan EV crossover

[@SebastianOtinianoMita]

@@McNasty43 also in the Uk with Car Throttle

[@travisrose2277]

Yeah, first couple times seeing Nissan adverts on Donut videos that weren't the actual video was a huge mindfu¢k, and made me smell change in the air.

[@NickRaven]

Yep, never sell out. Once you do, it's all about the money

[@andrams_]

As an automotive engineer, I started watching Donut when the Moneypit was all technical details because of Miata and the HiLow Zs also included much stories, techical stuff, and 'the way of how to get somewhere'. After that I also started to feel that it's just more and more videos but less stories and journeys. Best of luck to you two and I'll definitely be watching this channel further on.

[@NanaFudj]

To me donut only makes tear list or guessing games they never just build cars anymore

[@bobbygetsbanned6049]

As a finance guy who works in the corporate world, there's nothing that can kill a company like running it purely by the numbers. It's crazy how rampant it is for managers to think every decision needs to be made to directly improve a financial metric. It totally ignores the customer's (viewers) needs and kills the soul of the company. If you're giving the people what they want the finances will be fine, unless you're just intentionally burning cash on bullshit.

[@fruitbatman5134]

The execs who lead by spreadsheet pay the price eventually. They’re either getting outperformed by AI or the ones who take care of their employees and customers. Happening more and more lately and I’m all for it.

[@averyshaw2142]

The private equity efficiency over everything mindset is a parasite that is ruining America piece by piece.

[@ajlaritson5834]

There are KZbinrs like Mr beast or WD that spend obscene amounts of cash on stupid bullshit, but it’s stupid bullshit that the viewers like to see. At the end of it all, just like you said, those two aren’t exactly strapped for cash!

[@TonyS26]

MBAs have killed corporate/business culture. Look at Boeing as the biggest example.

[@SteveWeltman]

Bobby, I agree with you and had a comment on your comment. Its always got to be a balance. Entertainment is very different than tech and microbusiness producers are very different than enterprise mindsets. The bigger the company, the more eyes are on 'risk management'. The business leadership vision (for customer value, product quality, reach, whatever the metric) MUST be stronger than the pursuit of profit as the top value. Just my $0.02

[@hellraiserMB]

I would like that BigTime and Speeed were together . As a matter in fact , you 4 should be together

[@kl0a]

Please don’t deviate from this, “We’re gonna get back to doing the stuff we really want to do” and “make the content that not only we want to make, but we’d also like to watch”. You got this boysss, I’m excited for whats to come.

[@ThecrazyJH96]

Think we all appreciate the transparency in this video! Salary talk, money talk, personal stuff etc

[@Peanutdenver]

If you can in life always work for yourself. You have control, you take all the risk but receive the benefits of all your hard work. I could never work for someone else ever again, especially in the corporate world.

[@rolux4853]

@@Peanutdenverbig corpo gives you security and no more than 35 work hours a week. That is tempting as an engineer. But you are wasting your potential, which is sad. Over here in Germany it’s also much harder to start something and make good money.

[@infin1ty850]

​​@@rolux4853"no more than 35 hours a week" 😂 Yeah, you obviously do live outside of the US. I guarentee these guys we were working 50+ hours a week, especially if they were filming. Minimum for full time in the US, I believe, is currently 37 hours a week, but the standard for full time is 40 hours minimum.

[@hillbilly_harry]

Wow here in Aus I’m on a salary but it’s minimum 50 hours here.

[@afterthought3341]

Are they busting out RAINBOW flags, LOVERS?

[@lazyperfectionist6103]

Hi Lo was what brought me to Donut. Money Pit was what kept me here. Watching a video in the same garage brings the soul of the old Donut back.

[@stefanbrown5872]

You guys may not have been the reason I started watching Donut, but your absolutely part of the reason I continued to watch. Subbed to support the dream. Looking forward to watching some rad videos

[@conedx]

"don't worry, you'll still be seeing us!" then i click over to this channel and it's "why we're leaving donut"!

[@isnotthere]

THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING

[@jaybut3times]

but youll still be seeing them (for a short while)

[@beesharper7169]

I thought the same, I guess that just means it was filmed awhile back.

[@piemasta93]

Seriously 😂

[@thefumexxl]

Same.