Why We Rejected Our Range Rover Sport SV!

[@richardwells1709]

For a car costing £190k the quality control from JLR is appalling. A Dacia Duster is built to a higher standard !

[@gordongekko2502]

I took delivery of my SV in February in Germany. After 5.000km the car went into Limp Mode - maximum 21km/h. Brought it to the workshop and picked it up 2 Weeks later. Same thing happened again on the day I collected it from the workshop! So it stayed another 6 Weeks for repair as they finally found out the throttle valve had a defect but could not get hold of the part… Customer Service was very poor.

[@tro3y]

Seems to be an ongoing story sadly with this particular vehicle.

[@fredkraus9180]

Thanks for the update, my wife and I are looking at a new Range Rover. I watch everything on KZbin and I think we changed our minds

[@williamoakes664]

Run!!!!! Buy a bently or something else clearly more practical

[@6th.replicant577]

I’m sorry, but what did you expect from a manufacturer that’s been at the bottom of global reliability surveys for the past 50 years?

[@shawneal1]

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!! 👏🏾

[@makeyourmark00]

Land Rover has been living off of and promoting a reputation that didn't even survive a decade. It's like certain watch brands that had great tech 100 years ago or alcohol brands that won a single tasting competition, but keep saying they're "premium" and charging for it. At least the watches still keep time and the alcohol is still decent even if overpriced...lol.

[@gwidonpopielski2885]

He was driven by need to show off.

[@williamoakes664]

Well said - it can barely be a shock! 😂😂😂

[@caraccessories87]

i bought a new RR spent 140k and its got an engine fault after 45 miles

[@pawlanhungwynion7695]

I worked for Ford for quite a few years Always told people DONT BUY A NEW MODEL FOR AT LEAST A YEAR!!!. 100% true in what you say .easiest test pilot is the new owner. Free testing as the problem is there's not the manufacturer 😮😢😢😢

[@-DC-]

Used to work for GM Europe last car I was involved in was the 2008 Insignia which was far from ready when it went on sale 🤣, By 2013 they had just about sorted it out !

[@doggedlydetermined7022]

Bummer. I had a 2015 Sport Supercharged for 5 years and it treated me great. 79,000 miles

[@DrivenPlus]

The supercharged engines seem to be the best from JLR

[@cp4512]

The exception that proves the rule! 😂

[@wingcommanderdaltonwalton67]

£189,000.they threw mats in 😂😂😂😂

[@samtebbutt8903]

Standard

[@williamoakes664]

Yep the inclusion of mats……. and flaps by that wonderful salesman clearly tipped him over the line 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️😂

[@davida7713]

@@williamoakes664yea these 2 are complete clowns & full of dribble

[@barry4347]

Invite only,£191k for a Range Rover IMO you need to see a Doctor 🤣

[@DonDon-df5ie]

I know right, when you can get a DBX for less and dam better car all around.

[@mccarthymccarthy1]

It's the shock to these guys that it may only be worth 124k. 189 for a range rover (with mats)! Saw him coming 😂

[@Nevilebartos]

You can tell his misses is his first bird bless

This is part of Range Rovers new anti theft system, make them so undesirable even the thieves don't want them.

[@IronMountainx]

Listening to these two as a poor simple man that would expect a car costing over £150k would come with a house included in the price, makes me realise that even wealthy people make illogical decisions... I need to come up with a product or service for people like this, its amazing how easy it is to liberate these types from their money...

[@teabagtowers3823]

Yeah but when you release a flawed product don't surprised when they come asking for their money back like with this example.

[@stevenward6453]

Your spot on

[@hedydd2]

I agree. Over the years I have bought more than a handful of JLR products including three Range Rovers and a Jaguar XK8. All apart from a 2004 Range Rover were bothersome but while premium priced they were not absurdly expensive. Anyhow I got fed up with the amount of downtime and cost of running Land Rover products including Defenders and decided last year, and in the light of 15 year’s experience with them, to add another Ford Ranger to my small fleet. This is a true dual purpose vehicle and its ride and interior quality and performance, while more than adequate, do not quite equate to a Range Rover. However it does the job and more than adequately and only cost my business £42,000 plus VAT and I got the VAT back after the first month. While I hanker for and love Range Rovers, I vowed never again to buy one of their vehicles. Over the years and concurrently to owning Range and Land Rovers, I have also owned a large variety of other vehicles including three Nissan Terrano [bought in one deal] Isuzu Trooper Citation LWB, BMW X5, Mercedes ML, Audi Q7 and two Land Cruiser Amazon [an 80 and 100 series]. If JLR had backed up their vehicles with me and honoured their warranty and made reliable vehicles, all those other vehicles and a few others would have undoubtedly been JLR vehicles. But frankly they continue to produce expensive rubbish and fail to take responsibility for their production and design issues. They are undoubtedly the most arrogant company and people in the motor and industrial machinery business that I have dealt with over the last 45 years since I bought my first new Ford Fiesta in 1976 to my first new Range Rover in 1986 and onwards to today.

[@philipnorth9606]

JLR are the epitome of a failed Indian brand. Decades of woeful reliability, shockingly poor build quality and a dealer network of monkeys... When our last one was stolen we celebrated with champagne. Never again...

[@williamoakes664]

Great point well made

[@davidgirvan6007]

Guys, that line was priceless “if Range Rover had got this car right it could have saved there reputation”. They were only making 500 and they’ve still f****d it up. But every cloud…….saved you from a £50k loss I suppose. 🤔 which would probably have been £150k if it ever would have lasted for 3 years.

[@Smudger_83.]

I rejected my Range Rover sport yesterday, I collected it on May 10th 2024 was back in to Landrover on the 15th and I haven’t seen it since….!!! I have been in a courtesy car since then. Really loud cabin wind noise over 30mph and water ingress through the corner glass above the speakers. My business partner collected his last Friday and it broke down on the Monday.

[@DrivenPlus]

Oh wow! Thanks for sharing this

[@peterborrowman2041]

I collected mine 7 weeks ago. Had it for a total of 17 days and it was fault free for 2 days. Had a courtesy car and now in a hire car. Currently going thru the reject process. 1 week and counting.

[@mr.slipperman]

Main problem with RR is that its affordable to buy for middle class once they are used. Middle class buy it in order to mitigate high class status but they forget that high status brings up higher living costs 😂 Rolls Royce, Lambos, Meclaren, Ferrari has way more reliability HORROR stories but you will never hear about them because really rich people dont spend time on that kind of bull s…. 😂😂

[@tro3y]

I have a McLaren, actually had no major problems with it or its predecessor, keep your eyes peeled on the channel we have done a few videos on it with more to come.

[@mr.slipperman]

⁠@@tro3yLets be honest. Rich people dont whine about car reliability. If you want you can google McLaren reliability and you will find a lot of bull… like you find for LR or RR. For example I own Defender 2024 and had 0 issues by far. But thats me

[@scotie690]

Unfortunately there’s nothing new here. Tried once and it was a nightmare. That’s a shame because I love Range Rovers.

[@thomasfaulkner2697]

My mate bought one. After about two months he sold and bought a merc GLE 63s five door, TWICE the car !!!

[@jonathang8263]

There are 2 golden rules to trouble-free Range Rover ownership in my long experience with the manufacturer (and I have only owned Range Rovers and never the Sport). Firstly, only buy the final iteration of any model. By then they'll have had 8+ years to iron out all the issues. Secondly, always buy the V8 petrol engine. I've been buying Range Rovers from new for 40 years and having learned the hard way, by following the rules above I've had zero issues since I bought my L322 in 2010, and subsequently my current L405 in 2020.

[@cp4512]

The golden rule for buying Range Rovers is……don’t! There are plenty of other much more reliable SUVs out there with reasonable insurance prices and far less chance of being stolen.

[@kefilwemodisaotsile4816]

The DBX 707 or Turbo GT are the only worthy ones.

[@tro3y]

Starting to think this, I’ve been a JLR owner for well over 12 years this one has certainly knocked my confidence in the brand sadly.

[@kykyky73]

@@tro3y I went from an SVR to a turbo GT, it's an incredible car. Really, really happy with it.

[@teriok6783]

@@tro3yI am currently in the same damn boat. My 2024 Land Rover buyback has been getting “reviewed” for the past four freaking months!!!!

[@JUSTINPERRY-j5u]

I had turbo gt. just picked up my sv. Much better car

[@tro3y]

JLR like all brands have good and bad cars, mine was sadly not a great one after years of trouble free JLR ownership. Hearing from people with newer versions it seems they may have had batch issues that may have been resolved both through dealer and manufacturing updates, nice to hear you had a cayenne turbo GT and went to an SV from it and you feel it’s better, that’s what makes my search even harder as the SV was a mega car at its core just the mechanical failures compounded with the trim quality issues sadly ended my time with the car. I think I just got a lemon/ Friday afternoon car🤷🏼‍♂️

[@Zac-u4r]

Bought a disco 3 14 years old had it 3 years running beautifully

[@ianscorey5293]

Hi chaps……. I bought my first Range Rover in 1986…. It was a baggage car from the UK…. I was living in NZ…. The RR was a limited edition ‘cause it was the first automatic RR it was in Nevada Gold ….. I traded it in 1988 for a brand new RR metallic blue in colour…… Land Rover NZ had that car returned to them after nine months!!! Everything and I mean everything went wrong on the bloody car!!!!! In 1990 I purchased my third brand new RR 3.9 V8 mota…. Viscous box….etc etc…… Today that RR is my daily drive!!!! 280,000 km on the clock and 34 years old!!!! If you’re fortunate to buy a good one…. Hang on to the bloody thing!!! Regards Ian 👨‍🎤🇳🇿😎👍🍸🍸

[@tro3y]

After 13 years of RR ownership I only had minor niggles, this one was well…….🤷🏼‍♂️ So I agree get a good one and they are great.

[@JamesPink-j2k]

Amazing get out of jail card! You saved £120k depreciation!

[@DavidThompson-zu7hu]

I am a Brit living in Florida. I have an 2020 SVR Carbon and was trading it in for the new SV. I went through the whole special invite process and placed my order and paid my $10k deposit. 9 months later, it had not shown up. $205k with options, but I have to pay tax on that. After watching your initial video with the issues, and looking at my current car and trying to justify the $150k additional spend for something that doesn't look as good as what I currently have, for a few more BHP, some new in seat sound, and a bigger screen, I just couldn't do it. What was funny was that the dealers here were selling them for $30k+ more than list.. so whoever bought mine is going to take a bath. Lucky escape

[@tro3y]

It is an amazingly capable car v the older SVR, the suspension and the way it drives at speed is leaps ahead, but on freeway or normal driving you probably wouldn’t notice enough of the changes bar the 4 wheel steer.

[@keenanvanzile]

Buy the 2023 First Edition similar though not with the new tech - reasonably priced

[@Billy-Whizz]

SVR best solid engine ive owned, done 65,000 miles with no issues.. generally newer cars always have teething problem

[@CarsofGlasgow]

Have you had bad engines?

[@williamegler8771]

Every manufacturer can have the occasional "UNICORN ". The occasional reliable example doesn't represent the ownership experience of a majority of the owners. It is true new models can have "TEETHING PROBLEMS " but they are usually quickly resolved. JRL models start out being problematic and usually remain much more troublesome than their competitors throughout their model cycle.

[@makeyourmark00]

Not discounting your experience but for a vehicle in this segment, 65,000 miles with no issues is really nothing special and actually should be expected.

[@joparish1037]

Had 10 BMWs - none of which have had ‘teething troubles’ !! 😂😂 Ridiculous.

[@docmarc36]

Thanks for the update. I've had two generations of sports and have had no issues. I presently lookin for the gen 3 for my wife.. and I've seen both of your reviews on this. Hmnmmmmmmm.... now... Im not lookin at the SV, but... this should not have been the experience a buyer should have had.

[@cm4072]

Thankfully I didn’t take mine when it arrived at the dealership and I decided to keep my RR first edition P530, I knew a £190K RR wouldn’t bode well. Used market substantiates that further.

[@janmanuel1568]

Did exhaust have to be put back to stock before the return?

[@houlbt]

Interesting video thanks - I rejected mine in early May too. JLR were gentlemen about it, no quibbles but the car fell short on a number of quality issues, plus the transfer box debacle.

[@tro3y]

My dealer has been very good about it and I have never had a better experience from a dealer and especially the sales staff, this was part of the reason I forgave the car so much but in the end my confidence was destroyed not in the dealer but the car and the brand sadly, they seem built to sell now rather than actually last.

[@AlexKnowles-m4i]

Done 5000 miles in mine, running absolutely fine. Cracking all rounder. Admittedly took delivery just after the recall on the transfer box but since then no issues at all. Can only speak as I find but had 3x sports and 1x full fat over the last 14 years and no major reliability issues with these cars

[@tro3y]

That seems to be the feedback, I think the first cars off the production line may have been the problem ones of this new product line.

[@rocketron9]

95% of Land Rover products are still on the road,the rest made it home.

[@666DW]

95% of land rovers are sitting in scrap yards or have been reduced to components by chop shops!

[@caymanblack9567]

pmsl..

[@bcraftin7846]

O yeah! You obviously never owned a Range Rover?

[@rocketron9]

@@bcraftin7846,on the contrary I’ve had a few JLR products (my son was a senior engineer at SVO). So I can confirm they are a very comfortable place to sit, whilst you await recovery.

[@bcraftin7846]

@@rocketron9 Good to know. But there is a lot of people that get on here talking shit about the brand that has never owned one I’ve been with JLR for over 20 years. I currently have two Range Rover‘s with over 200,000 miles both only requiring normal wear and tear and maintenance, and I wouldn’t hesitate to drive either of them across the United States at a moments notice. People need to get over the narrative from the 80s and early 90s about reliability as a matter fact BMWs and Mercedes are way less reliable than Rovers. I’ve owned them all, and had more success with reliability with my Rovers.

[@pauldevine2932]

Same guy will moan about the car then next month go and buy another 😂

[@DaleSteel]

I regularly use big 4x4 cars for towing. Never buy a JLR product again. I just run mitsubishi shogun although they stopped making them in 2019 so looks like the next one will be a land cruiser BTW the new landcruiser looks stunning

[@georgesemple8136]

landcruiser is the best motor on the planet

[@hedydd2]

@@georgesemple8136 Land Cruisers are very reliable but can be costly when they do go wrong. All vehicles are I suppose but at least LC doesn’t normally go wrong often. I’ve owned two, an 80 series manual which had poor second gear synchromesh and blew its injector pump at some point; plus 100 series which I ran for 200,000 miles and 20 years and has been parked up on my yard for the last five years due to the uneconomic cost of repairs needed to mainly its brake system but also it needs a conversion to a manual suspension system. About £8k worth of repairs minimum, which just isn’t viable on a now 26 year old vehicle. Until the electronic brake servo failed it had near zero repairs in its life and even its exhaust system is all original. The engine and transmission still worked like new and the chassis was good, although I had only two years earlier changed one front wing due to rust at its front bottom.

[@richsubishi]

I have old shogun keep it running, allways picking my dad up from land rover 😂

[@DaleSteel]

@@richsubishi ha ha

[@TC-V8]

New Landcruiser also has major problems!

[@PaulHadley64]

I was so close to buying a RR. I’m now on my 3rd Lexus. GS300 amazing car. LX430 luxury on wheels. Both 200,000 miles when sold. Never put a spanner on them. Now RX450h pulling a 2 tonne caravan every week, I’m so glad I never touched a RR

[@tonyyoto8820]

Question, why such a popular brand can’t sort out their product reliability?

[@AllInVehicleInspections]

I wireless at several dealers, we all know not to buy the latest model (not talking about facelifts) because of unknown issues, reliability, and parts availability... but people still buy them because they want the latest thing. I guess you can't make videos about how the model 30 years ago is as capable as today's though,?

[@garymurphy5133]

I was not surprised in the least the car had lost 40 to 50k in that time. its a gas guzzler and a LR to boot.What did you think it would lose?

[@tro3y]

Sorry the depreciation was a bolt on after the ownership, the main focus is the faults and issues that seem to have affected more than 1 isolated car giving rise for the rejection of the car.

[@TheLJC_]

Sorry to hear about your experience. I'm in Los Angeles and took delivery of my Sport SV around 5 weeks ago. When the car arrived from the port, it had to stay with JLR LA for several days due to what was described as a "suspension fault". They were incredibly ambiguous with what actually went wrong and they just said that it was a "software fault". After finally taking delivery some days after, the car gave me a suspension fault each time I would drive it. I returned it back to the dealership where it spent a few more days. They said it was a loose connection. I'm now at 600 miles and the issues people have documented with this car is a cause for concern as an owner. Furthermore, the car was delivered in a really shit condition. The leather side boulster on the drivers seat was creased at delivery to which the salesman described "it's real leather, it does that". The paint quality is also very shoddy and the black interior panel below the screen is already scratched up. To add insult to injury, the car arrived in an all black specification. I ordered a Carbon Bronze with the two tone interior at the event in Malibu. Can't make it up.

[@thunderpants007]

Lemon car law, I think three faults and you can return the vehicle? I wonder where they are built also.

[@tro3y]

Sad to hear this, a few owners who have been in touch have had spec changes between their order and what was actually delivered.

[@onlycheeseislife]

Yeah. That's not YOUR car. That's just A car they gave you to meet delivery. Should've just said 'nah' when you saw its the wrong colour, especially after the 'suspension' issue. Your car probably got given to whoever order the car you got.

[@TheLJC_]

​@@onlycheeseislife Well, truth be told, we were all under that illusion that this is some sort of 'limited run vehicle' with speculation being that only around 500 were made. Turns out that was probably inaccurate... TWO of my neighbors in my apartment building own a Sport SV. That's three sport SV's in one parking lot! I actually have a letter sat on my desk which is basically Range Rover apologizing. They shipped an electronic coffee flask thing and a paper weight of a full size Range Rover to my address. They couldn't even get the paper weight model right! It wasn't a case of re-ordering another one. The salesman failed to take responsibility and said that it would've been user error from that guys at the Malibu event when we specced the car. In hindsight, the dealership never even sent me a purchase order with the specification. The car just rocked up a year later and I (foolishly) paid up on the premise that it was marketed as a limited vehicle. I was just going to flip it but these things are not selling! Other than the documented faults it's an unbelievable car. At this point I'm going to continue to drive it and wait until it inevitably breaks.

[@onlycheeseislife]

@@TheLJC_ The total run is 2,500. 500 may just be USA.

[@tonyhilliarduk]

I had five JLR cars starting with a 2006 RRS S/C then a 2010 XKR, then a 2012 RRS and very little went wrong with those cars. Mainly quality issues with trim etc. then I had two F-Pace V6S. The 2016 one was one for the first in the U.K. and it spent 50+ days in the workshop as they tried to fix a bunch of trim, ICE and drivetrain issues. I rejected it shortly before six months and they built me a new identical one which I collected in March 2017. That was rejected by May after a road trip to France unveiled some driveshaft grumbles that JLR acknowledged but had no fix for at the time. So those were my last ever JLR cars. I’ve had an Audi SQ5 and Porsche Cayenne S since that have been back and forward to France, Switzerland and Spain many times with zero issues.

[@curranhouse]

Dealership sound crud also.. were they blind? As for mileage charge... I hope you charged them for admin costs etc...

[@MrStokest]

Hello Troy hope you can help; I hate the new 2024 rangy interior (just a screen no climate or off road bottons) I test drove the 2022 version which had them and didnt know my 2024 version wouldnt have them. It's like a sodding Tesla! I've done 6000miles I cant get on with everything being on the screen and frankly want to get rid of the car. Can I reject it on the basis i was missold the car? There is also a safey issue with having to look at the screen for everything!! Thanks

[@aliwright1523]

Our new Range Rover gearbox is shocking, on a recent 5 hr trip on holiday, then 4 hrs back home it had swallowed all the engine coolant, and the engine oil was just about showing on the dipstick

[@emekaossai5485]

dipstick? Did they bring those back?

[@boogboog8097]

Lol your engine would be toast if that happened...cylinder head failure 😮

[@jamesinbradford5882]

If LR/Jaguar was a greasy spoon cafe the authorities would have closed it down by now ! Why do people keep buying them ?

[@ballaadam5910]

😂😂. Say no more mate

[@billybob1511]

They used to be amazing to drive if you wanted really good refinement and an amazing ride. Not any more! New RRS (non SVR) and new Defender both have firm suspension. Not sure why have air suspension and a firm uncomfortable ride, no more Land Rovers for me!

[@hedydd2]

I, for one, do not and have vowed some years ago not to ever buy one of their products ever again whatever the temptation. I’m sticking to it. They have not improved their build quality or reliability or their backup of product the slightest bit while trying to compete with supercars on a whole higher price level. Don’t be fooled by their hype. They are poorly designed down to a price not up to a quality and reliability standard, while selling for a silly premium price which they do not deserve. Indeed if truth be known, on so many levels they do not deserve to survive and exist as a company. They have had so many chances and they consistently blow it.

[@jamesinbradford5882]

@@hedydd2 what do you drive now ?

[@cbotten106]

For that kind of money Range Rover should be able to deliver a satisfactory vehicle. Pity 'cause those are sweet when they are right. It sounds like the whole SV design wasn't fully sorted with that many going bad so early on.

[@mowerman60]

We have new tractors,here in NZ that are not built as they should be. We run 20 vehicles of different ages,trucks,utes,tractors etc. No new vehicle we buy nowadays is designed to last any amount of time and it is very concerning. A vehicle costing what these RRs do should be handbuilt. You keep calling it JLR,but it is actually TATA,is it not ??

[@nimedave]

Great result to get a refund but I am staggered that a RRS is 190k. Even more so when looking at the quality you get for that.

[@Colin-b7h]

I hear you had the same problem with a 2023 defender amazing drive and technology but build quality and turbo issues forced me to sell at a 30% loss after 14 months Landrover doesn’t seem to care and people still get sucked into this mess

[@michaelcrump1288]

it seems to me JLR are going down fast, with the problems and the theft issues in UK. I own a series L405 Diesel Autobiography which I have owned here in New Zealand for 7 years with no problems done 128000KM. No confidence to upgrade .

[@minskmuncher1]

Why is anyone surprised that this new RR is a bag of bolts and has never been built properly from the factory. Junk components gets you a junk car.

[@julben1900]

Maybe I'm too tolerant but I've had vastly more issues with other premium brands. Merc, Audi (which blew up on the second day), BMW. A pillar - new trim - easy quick fix leather - all leather stretches slightly after being sat on for a bit - that's normal. eventually it'll sag. Transfer box - known issue - replaced, should be fine now. clunk underneath - probably a loose shield or something - 5 mins for the tech. badge. 2 degrees out - again - hardly noticable but just tell them to sort it. I'm not hearing anything that make me lose confidence in the car. It's a new model and new models have teething issues. That's why I never buy anything that hasn't been out there for at least 2 years. If you buy a new model, expect a few niggles. But, it hardly burst into flames or repeatedly broke down. RRs are fast depreciating due to the current massive insurance costs - which lets be actually honest here, is why he actually rejected it - to get out of a massive financial loss and make some content. Sorry, the rest is just noise & excuses. Well done on getting out but really not enough to reject in IMO.

[@tro3y]

Glad you’re so tolerant, sadly the transfer box and the suspension knocking were too much for me on this car to have any confidence for its long term use, even the JLR AA roadside guy did not know what it was let alone diagnose any faults on it at the roadside when it failed. Insurance was £950 per year so no issue with insurance. As for depreciation the miles and cars I buy all depreciate and if you actually knew me you would realise I am not someone who is bothered about depreciation and keeping value in cars, if I did I would be doing no miles and buy garage queens, I drive my cars hence the 7500 in 4 months. Cars normally are better the more you use them, this car got progressively worse and given its intended use as a daily driver I personally lost confidence. You’re right though it does make good content for the channel but JLR pitched this car as a turning point for the brand from a quality point of view🤷🏼‍♂️we are simply sharing our experience.

[@TheBhup]

Had a Range Rover Sport Autobiography for 6 years. Last 2 years it had to go to the garage every few months. It was a headache Got rid of it and got a Lexus now

[@michaelarmstrong2797]

Unfortunately, they are rushed out to meet demand. Some of the stories i could tell you would make your hair curl!!!

[@XRP3295]

Sad to hear, thanks for your honest up date, I will look at a X5

[@PhannyObsession]

I’ve had to talk four of my friends out of buying a JLR car. I bought one and literally had issues with it driving it home from the dealership! Should have taken that as a sign. But, heart ruled head and kept it. Since then, countless visits to the Service Centre. Biggest mistake I’ve ever made! I just can’t understand how such a ‘prestige’ brand is so badly put together. It’s such a shame because they really could be market leaders if they just cared about their reputation

[@georgesemple8136]

how many years and models do you need to know they are crap,,you never learn

[@benjamindavis-rice1548]

I took delivery of mine in January, sold it in march. Problem is you say they are amazing cars, but in my opinion it was nowhere near the outgoing SVR. It just didn’t have the characteristics that made you smile and bond with the car. Technically, yes, great, but surely we buy these cars for the soul and how they make you feel, not just for the top trump aspects of it? If they’d of priced it better or given it a soul, you can make the argument, but for 180k with the few bits you want, there are other better options.

[@duncanstirling6643]

My question Do you think the new Electric will be a better vehicle as I am shopping in Thailand for a new electric SUV. I am hoping it's more reliable

[@tro3y]

JLR did well with the ipace and the Range Rover hybrids seem good we reviewed my 510e on this channel so take a look.

[@sneakprev1984]

Hearing how low the offers you got were, that depreciation is just mindblowing...

[@skipijs5316]

If car is so defective, manufacturer or dealer should give back money of full price. Since these luxury vehicles depreciate so fast. Basically product has no warranty, they just bought it back as if owner wanted to trade it in or just sell.

[@carfella7994]

Massive dilemma on what to buy next with a budget like that. 😂

[@milerale5286]

We gone to bmw and Audi, class above any land rover 😊

[@mickyeverton]

Very insightful & honest!! Many Thanks, peace from London!! 🙋🙋

[@Pedroaghyu]

How do Land Rover find so many fools

[@rockatansky1305]

If you put lip stick on a pig, it's still a pig !

[@sudindesai0928]

I don't agree with this Gentleman, i bought one same SV i never found any issue with the car it was excellent car. Simply just to spoil the name of any good brand which is growing and in demand.

[@tro3y]

Glad you got a good one, epic car enjoy it, shame my one failed for me, I have no problem with the brand loved them for 13 years with no big faults until this one.

[@oneel2786]

You must be living under a stone to have a opinion like that

[@CH-bn7qb]

Just because you got a good one doesn’t mean that saves the brand the reliability on JLR is absolutely shocking brand new ones fail all the time at a crazy rate the dealerships simply can’t keep up with these garbage motors coming back in you really have to be ignorant to the issue or have too much money to care and it’s usually the second option

[@daviddean8198]

Mate with a Disco4 on a cross Simpson Desert trip in convoy in Oz made it after 33 tows across the top of 33 of the 1100 huge sand dunes. Then blew a turbo hose in Alice Springs and was trucked back to Adelaide for repairs. Three months later, it was trucked to a city in western Victoria for repairs after stranding the owner in outback South Australia. In high dudgeon, the owner contacted the MD of Rover, who extended the warranty by five years after having it returned to Melbourne for a complete going-over. Now five years later, it has never missed a beat since. Owner loves his Disco4, won't part with it. Clearly an early QA problem.

[@SeanWest-xb5cc]

Money is no reason for stupidity .

[@DaleSteel]

HE DID NOT JUST SAY THAT! Jesus alone couldn't repair JLRs reputation!

[@dannyrobbo]

Such a shame it’s gone. Was one hell of a machine

[@tro3y]

Gutted as it was an amazing car but the quality of my car was simply unacceptable sadly🤷🏼‍♂️

[@darrenboston342]

Have. A word you 🔔 end!!

[@dannyrobbo]

⁠@@tro3yfor the price of it I completely understand it needed to be 100%.

[@DrivenPlus]

Hi Darren, who are you referring to?

[@darrenboston342]

@@DrivenPlus The guy who actually purchased one of these bags of shite!! When will people actually learn that they’re just bags of shit!!

[@hankholstein7228]

I have a F Pace SVR which has a minor coolant leak on one of the auxiliary radiators, the car has an extended Jaguar warranty. Local main dealer is quoting at least 2 months, I’ve phoned many others who are quoting 2 to 3 months. I’ve contacted Jaguar because this is unacceptable to have to wait so long but they are NOT INTERESTED and do not give a damn. I will go back to another manufacturer as JLR do not care about their customer base.

[@nigelk780]

I sold my f pace svr and f type for this very reason ie parts and service. Jaguar is in the process of doing a runner it’s plain to see.

[@farmer6861]

Like new build homes - new cars have snags - ideal world wouldn’t happen, but we don’t live in an ideal world. You have to deal with it. Spat your dummy out - got refund, but now not driving around in an SV - awesome cars. FYI - all news cars depreciate so should not be used to justify decision to bin car. If new cars never went wrong or came with snags, there’d be no need for attractive Warranties. In reality, folk make buy choices not cars!

[@allenwixted1992]

The best edition is not always the newest edition sadly. We all want the new design and styling and features, but the final iteration is often the most refined in terms of manufacturing

[@garsimmulholland4984]

I paid cash for a p530 autobiography…not what I originally wanted but it was available. I waited 2 weeks for the pre inspection delivery which they then informed me led to a broken door lock. 4 weeks later it was still sitting waiting to be repaired….I returned it and bought a dbx. Never again.

[@robertnimmo5683]

I’ve had 2 2024 Defender 110S vehicles, both returned because of multiple faults with the Infotainment system. I had a WRANGLER JEEP before,and I asked for my money back and purchased a new WRANGLER JEEP. Much more reliable. I agree with your comments about JLR “ experimenting” with their customers with new technology. Their challenge is the costs to get to market as so high , they need to recoup

[@MrWestcliffe]

Its absolutely shocking it's still the case with JLR in 2024. And as you highlighted it isn't even a rare example, it's just standard with all of these JLR products. The question is not "IF it will fail? but "WHEN it it will fail? I nearly went for one myself a couple of years ago, and now I'm so glad I didn't. Despite the massive headache with the reliability, on top it would be the huge insurance increase (if you can get insured at all) and a shocking depreciation (massive negative equity at the end of your PCP). I just cant imagine that any of the German rivals would take the shame for having massive issues with a brand new model. Only JLR is ignoring it for decades... Just on the side note - I work in the automotive OE supply chain industry and working with all the major OEMs and Tire Suppliers. JLR is one of the most unorganised, undisciplined and doesn't give a shit...car manufacturer I ever worked with. I can't name another OEM which came close to them in terms of planning, scheduling and forecasting etc.. And as we can see this translates to all of their production quality too. I again very tempted to buy the new Defender as it is built in Slovakia, but I just don't trust them as the management and especially the orders are coming from the UK.

[@AsadMulla]

14:32 it was Tomi on Carwow. He was talking about he's Revuelto

[@tro3y]

Thanks for that, knew I had heard that line somewhere, press cars are prepped and checked over, this is why we do reviews on actual community cars on our channel so we get the actual feeling for how the cars perform from our own tests and more importantly the owners longer term ownership.

[@SantaDeerhound]

Has anyone ever had a RR that wasn't a Friday afternooner lemon? The exorbitant price of them is clearly to cover the endless repairs and warranty fixes. Then you add in that it will get nicked every 3 weeks. Who in their right mind would buy one?

[@davidthomas2278]

Had a summer job a few years ago doing parts for land rover, let me assure you that quality was not the top priority!!!

[@pauld4115]

JLR should have a class action taken against them. Their vehicles genuinely are the physical manifestation of style over substance! Not just the SV, there is at least a decade of burned customers in all markets, many of whom have ended up with unusable, worthless vehicles, untradeable, too expensive to fix, parts impossible to get, even third party specialists not interested in repairs! Other luxury brands not accepting as trade ins. Shocking…count yourself lucky you have got rid of it.

[@erickg3508]

Were I live this SV model is 60 thousand pounds more expensive than a fully equipped Cayenne turbo gt. Purchased the turbo gt for 170k vs 230k for the sv version. I’m so glad I did that.

[@williamreed2786]

Three questions 1. Did you reject it because you thought you’d bought a car that was limited edition 1 of 500 and it would appreciate/hold its value. When you realised it was going to tank - you wanted out? 2. Is it really that special? When you put it alongside a RRSv8 is it worth the extra £80k for some carbon, acoustic sears and suspension? 3. Have you put your cash down on the octa and do you think it will go the same way as the SV?

[@tro3y]

1:) I rejected it for quality the main one being the box failed, the suspension was another worry for me the rest of the minor quality issues were just that minor, but transfer box and suspension were the major issues and simply not acceptable. 2) go take a test drive seems to be plenty in dealers, the car is special and nothing like a normal Range Rover from a driving point of view. 3) having been a JLR customer for many years this car has made me realise I need a car that’s with me more than the dealer, time for a change of brand, or multiple🤔

[@alyjiwan]

Shocking! I'm glad I watched this. I was actually thinking of my next car being either a Range Rover Sport or Defender 110. Now, I think I'll stick to Mercedes! Thanks!

[@DavidWilliams-be9ps]

jLR might have aspirations for higher segment sales at silly money but Dacia build quality is miles better for a tenth of the outlay. Typical JLR ownership experience. £190k JLR value is only going one way, the only unknown Is whether it falls quickly or very quickly

[@garrystamford3547]

That interview was hard work

[@ginger_monkeey]

You lose 20% as soon as you leave the dealer forecourt so the trade in valuation isn't too bad considering mileage and age.

[@miked6505]

the public have always been used for the development of vehicles

[@adienowed6366]

I have to admit,that my JLR product has been immensely reliable over the many many years I've had it. It's a Series 2A diesel! Basic,yes,but brilliantly reliable. That's almost certainly because the vehicle isn't filled with loads of ridiculously stupid and unnecessary electronic crap to go wrong without a moment's notice! It's also very 'green',using current parlance,having been totally rebuilt and ready for its next 50 years of sterling service. And it's left me with loads of spare monies,as I didn't need a mortgage such as required to purchase todays piles of unreliable and expensive mobile junk!

[@seehawkeye9666]

What are you doing with your Quicksilver muffler system? Do you still have it?

[@tro3y]

No it was returned to quicksilver when the car was returned to stock by them.

[@seehawkeye9666]

Thanks for the reply. I would love to have one on my SV. Sad they returned their car.

[@ryanfogarty4592]

I sold mine after about a month. Was so disappointed in the performance for a 200k SUV

[@julesviolin]

11,000 JLR cars are awaiting spares. They have run out of courtesy cars and lending non JLR products 😅. A total disgrace. Masses of transfer boxes were supplied with no oil 😅 My 2018 XJ 351 has been awaiting a front road spring for 3 months. They are obsolete and no date for delivery Total disgrace 🤬🤬🤬🤬 JLR are finished I'm afraid to say. Loyal customers are leaving in their droves.

[@brutusoftroy2810]

Accessories and options, you're always gonna lose, when you spec a car and start ticking carbon options for the exterior etc, in the aftermarket, its worthless. When you spec a 168k car up to 190, its still a 168k car.

[@MrDespisedIcon]

Is Defender having similar issues?

[@DrivenPlus]

Don’t know yet

[@FaisalABDO-z5l]

Land rover have refused to sell me new range rover sv edition 2 because I was selling my sv edition one to a dealer

[@4cds14]

To be fair the SV was always going to lose a huge amount from list, in covid & post covid times the market was not normal & the reality is Landrover products heavily depreciate & £189,000 in my opinion it’s too high for that brand. The current market has totally reversed & a year old SV I see at £100,000 max & then £25,000 to £30,000 drop each year for the next 2 years.

[@farmer6861]

I tagged a Dutch registered one coming home from the West Country. It went like a rocket ship 🚀. Sorry but I think you were daft to hand back yours. The dealer would have resolved your issues and provided you with a courtesy car. I feel that the depreciation is just a way to justify your decision made, but in your heart, you’re grieving for your SV. And my father bought a new P38, and despite everything he had to put up with, and it was a lot, over the first few months of ownership, my God he loved that car. First rule of Range Rover ownership, is don’t listen to your partner, especially if they don’t get that warm fuzzy feeling just on thinking about the words Range Rover. If we all listened to other people, none of us would be driving round in Range Rovers. Christ, they’re bloody annoying when they go wrong, which they do frequently, but when all systems are go, they’re unbeatable. There’s a saying that there’s a very fine line between love and hate. Controversially, I think folk who hand back their keys telling themselves oh but it had a catastrophic failure, any breakdown is catastrophic, are the sort of people who iron their tea towels!

[@Suffolkman1961]

How could this have been such an impressive vehicle with all those faults? It’s unbelievable! Last September, I took delivery of a new Kia sportage, and as at today’s date, I’ve not had one single thing go wrong with it! 13:24

[@thepill7195]

I'm thinking of swtiching to Audi sq8 because of the issues I have with Range Rover Sports.

[@DrivenPlus]

Well funny you should say that… keep your eyes on the channel…

[@phillipsharpe6459]

Who does the quality control at landrover stevie wonder, 😂🤣👍

[@vanillacoffee]

Some nice Omega Seamaster action here.

[@mornecoetzee735]

I don't understand, issues with Landrovers have been well documented over at least the last 30 years, yet people are still buying them?

[@Agent77X]

Get use to it, it is after all, a high end Range Rover Sport brand vehicle and that is it’s reputation- it is for the super rich class that is suppose to buy it after all! They do not mine theses type of problems!😊

[@raywardrayward]

Sounds like JLR not only changed a new substantial premium for the new model but have gone backwards in reliability and build quality! I certainly won't be looking at a Range Rover NOW

[@mr.y.mysterious.video1]

I really dont see the attraction of these vehicles. Thats before you consider the horror stories you hear about reliability. I havent owned an expensive csr in my life and yet ive never had a car break down on me even once. All i do is the annual service

[@OH2023-cj9if]

Don't reject too many times as you will be refused finance in future. A lot of people do this when they can't keep up payments.

[@tro3y]

No finance on the vehicle, it was a direct to dealer rejection to JLR. This is the first time I have ever rejected a car in all my time owning cars.

[@tro3y]

But nice information for the community to understand, so thanks for sharing that nugget of information, hopefully I won’t reject another car in my lifetime. Probably banned from buying another new JLR product after this video anyway but after 13 years of JLR cars with only minor niggles, non motor and drivetrain related, this one really rocked my confidence in the brand.

[@vicjones3992]

Troy doesn't need finance

[@Tagomago12]

After watching this video I'm amazed it took you 6 months to hand the keys back.