Why Would Anybody Buy a Printer?

[@owainshaw]

"Get your kids into Photography, that way they'll never have money for drugs."

[@mr.treefrog8641]

@SwitchRich got to teach them marketing some how right

[@johnm6088]

so

[@SeanKimStyle]

But They got addicted in buying gears

[@owainshaw]

@@SeanKimStyle They still might become gear-heads.

[@mikeatkins2964]

Can actually confirm

[@cgriggsiv]

Thomas great video but you cannot give away that hat it does not matter if it's a little large use a baseball cap if you have to. The person who knitted that hat has a very kind-hearted soul and excellent skills P.S Thomas wash the hat in extremely hot water and then throw it in the dryer it should shrink

[@LegacyStudio]

Just got my Canon Pro100 and it has opened my eyes Thomas. Thank you for all your videos and it has inspired me to get one and get started! I absolutely love it and my KZbin channel has a new goal. Review camera tech and get “the bucket print” from every location I get. Thanks so much for the inspiration and as always, I absolutely love your work man!

[@JeffCreates]

Is it wool? Put it on an absurdly high temperature to shrink it, then put it on your head when it's still wet - bespoke sizing!

[@PaulAdshead]

this ^

[@nuno_das_fotos]

Exactly was just about to write that but came here looking for comments!

[@djvincon]

Thissss

[@HeathBarbierPhoto]

Jeff coming in with the top tips!

[@JeffCreates]

Heath L Barbier only regarding fabric care and haberdashery

[@heero101086]

Thomas! You can’t give away that hat! A fan put in all that effort to make you a hat and you just want to give it away? I’m sure you can “edit” the hat to make it fit....

[@cgriggsiv]

I totally agree. You cannot give away that hat to anyone. The person who knitted that hat is a very special person with a lot of heart that did that so what if the hat is a little bit too big you just cannot give that away to anyone

[@Caspersight]

Yeah, I would be so pissed off if I made that and he just through it to one side and said who wants it lol. Just slide it back a bit so you can see!

[@geriko29]

I have to agree Thomas that feels slightly clumsy for that poor follower, even if I'm sure you were full of goodwill!

[@johnsmith1474]

@@Caspersight - All you people need to get over yourselves.

[@thdcinema]

Don't rush to conclusions on this one guys, perhaps the person or persons who made the oversized hat for him are making him a new well fitted hat for him as we speak.....or not, I could be wrong too ;0)

[@scotty4418]

To me, the bit at the end of the vlog summaries the benefits of printing as you have done the planning, the travelling, getting on scene and then taking the image. Printing the image is the completion of the journey especially when the adventure has been a memorable one

[@SD_Alias]

Wash the hat at 60-90° C in washing machine and it will fit your head ;-)

[@mymenare]

but, do not be wearing the hat, when you do this.....

[@dorycoli]

He didn't like your answer mate, i think it was a good idea, at this point i think he just did't like the hat, he wants to get rid of it.

[@jacebeleren429]

I know the comment section is turning into hatgate 2019, but printing is my favorite part of photography. Some advice from someone who did a bit of a deep dive into the subject. Your printer/paper will define your end product, similar to how instagram lends itself to square crops and over saturation. You need to understand first the broad strokes of what you want to make before you shop. Do you want to print fast, at high quality, how wide do you want to go, does my cameras resolution work with the size I want to print... on and on. I was on the verge of choosing that pro1000, but I realized I wanted to go wide. That printers driver only supports something like 17"x25.5" and that is what you are locked into. So I ended up going with the Epson P800 because it has a roller attachment which allows me to use 17"x100'+ rolls. The widest I have printed so far is 17"x110" which really gives me the sense of scale I was trying to communicate. The P800 also allows you to print on thick inflexible media like metal plates and the such. Anyhow my point is not that one printer is better than the other, (because they are both great) but that you will be bound to the physical dimensions and media materials compatible with the printer. FWIW If you are just starting out get the Canon pro100, pick up a few sample packs of Moab, Canson, Hahnemuhle, or whatever and start your journey. To me, printing is the most satisfying thing about photography. Just make sure you ask your spouse before you hang a ~10ft wide photo on your livingroom wall ;-).

[@Elysianplains]

Should Thomas keep the hat? Yes: 👍🏻 No: 👎🏻

[@johnsmith1474]

The vid is about printing.

[@raymondgoodman9148]

@@johnsmith1474 how many times did you make this comment?

[@redauwg911]

John- Manners always come first.

[@johnsmith1474]

@@raymondgoodman9148 - Hopefully once for every nitwit who posted a fanboy hat comment to a printing vid. Did I miss one?

[@frauleindaniela]

John Smith Yes me! Now I'm offended. How could you miss my comment? Maybe you're just not thorough enough?

[@TWBrit65]

Printer: a business plan cycle is 5 years, divide the printer cost by either 3 or 5 years... Hat: Never give away a personal gift - it's just rude

[@Artyomthewalrus]

Always ensure a personal gift gets use. If I were to spend a dozen hours knitting a hat, which didn't fit the intended wearer, I would much rather they forward it to someone else who will use it rather than simply leaving it in a drawer unused for the sake of politeness.

[@MagicCallanta]

I just bought a pro 1000 last week.. printing gives my photography life

[@seandonno9248]

Not enough photographers print their work, or get prints done! For me it completes the process from point of capture to final printed image, and I have total control over this whole process. I dithered for ages on buying a printer, but in the end went for the fantastic Canon PRO100S. Got it for 250 UK pounds and it prints up to A3+ sizes. Large enough for any prints I want to display around the home. Genuine set of inks can be got for 75 pounds. I print ALL of my favourite images on 5x7 paper first, and make any adjustments before printing to A3+. I ignore the initial cost of the printer, just as I wouldn't consider the price of a new lens. It's a one off cost. So basing my print costs on the paper and replacement inks alone, 5x7 prints cost just over 1 UK pound per print, and just over 6 UK pounds for an A3+. I think this is a bargain personally, and worth every penny to me. Interesting also, that when I started to print it changed my whole post processing workflows, for the better.

[@semperfi-1918]

Im in USA. And i get cost of start and cost of exspenses running business. One is recovery cost and the other ... well is with the print for the cost of goods. But in the end once i have mine set up and i have enough slush fund and justifyable selling enough prints to cover the cost... then itll be worth it.

[@MO-ss7qt]

Ah, love the print on 5x7 first! Why didn't I think of that!

[@josh885]

I just got a Canon pro-10 for $100 after xmas sale. It's normally a $700 printer. I agree with you 100% After the first print came out that was it. Now for me photos on the screen aren't even real or finished anymore. There is simply no way to describe the feeling when your photo which you saw in your mind, than created with your camera now exists in the real world not just virtually on a screen. Manifesting the work in the real physical world is the final, and true act of creation. It didn't' exist and now it does. Because of you. That's not something you can even put a price on. I can never go back to not printing. After doing it myself I would never go back to using a lab either unless I wanted a print that was too big for me to make. I adjust the photo for the print depending on the paper I'm using and the lighting where the photo is going to be displayed ect. It is part of the creative process and not something I want to leave to someone else.

[@seandonno9248]

Couldn't agree more :-)

[@stevenscarborough9376]

Agree. I, too, bought a Canon Pro 10 for $100. Have to tell ya I got got hooked and love the printing process. Spent a lot on extra ink and paper (of course I now prefer Canson PrintMaking Rag...heh, heh...$) I am glad I got into printing, as it is a pleasing part of my creative process as a hobbyist.

[@jaredwolfe8438]

Yep pro-10 is great. Have enjoyed mine the passed few years. Still haven’t done anything bigger than 8x10 but I need to.

[@josh885]

@bellaconca Well from what I understand these rebates only happened in the U.S. Also the reason why it was so cheap is because Murphyy's camera had a big discount in addition to the rebate Canon was offering. Murphy's sale price was $300 and canon was offering a $200 rebate at authorized retailers. So that makes it $100. But I got a combo deal for paper too. So after Murphy's discounts and Canon's rebates I got the printer and 100 sheets of 13X19 (A3+) canon pro luster paper for $120+$65 for shipping.

[@johnburgess1547]

To handle a print that you have created from start to finish and see it come out of the printer is magical. At least you can boast "All my own work"

[@danev1969]

Thomas, Over the years we owned 24" professional printers and the profit margin was narrow. We are retired now and we are members of a local Photography club in Sun City AZ. A few years back our club purchased a Canon iPF-6400 24" (similar to your Pro-1000). We manage the profiles (we can make our own with Silverfast). With this setup, our members can print a 16 x 20 on art paper for about $5.00 to maybe $10.00 depending on the paper. And we have members that print a 24x36 on Breathing Color Canvas for about $20.00. This is probably the only way self-printing can be economical. All of our computers are color managed and it takes a team to ensure the accuracy and minimal waste that allows us to keep cost down. Thanks as always for the excellent video.

[@millcitymercantile]

Without sounding like a hater... I was very surprised that Thomas gave away a hat that someone took the time to make for him. Of course, that's just my thoughts.

[@dayjeenhomeschool1369]

I thought the same thing. I would just keep it because someone is kind enough and thoughtful enough to make the hat, especially for him, fit or not I would just keep it. I don't hate or dislike Thomas. Thank you for making this video.

[@andre1987eph]

You're a good judge of character. I felt the same way.

[@googledeez5552]

I agree as well, his parents must’ve not taught him to appreciate little things.

[@p.i.vanblerk3043]

I actually think it's a good thing. If you're not gonna use it is better to give it away than throw it in a closet for it to never be used. If I had made that hat I would had been fine with him giving it away to someone who might have a better use for it.

[@utopia901]

Same. Pretty ungrateful. Stitching a hat like that takes time.

[@asyukr]

Very good review of photography business. I like your approach to a business process. And, your landscape photos are amazing.

[@mhc2b]

Hi Thomas - I make my "photo" money by setting up at juried outdoor art shows in the Southeast US. For me, being able to print what I sell at these shows is extremely important. My printer is an Epson P6000, 24". I print on Matte fine art paper (Epson Hot Press) with mat black ink. Two big reasons why I choose to print my own - I can print WHENEVER I want, and I have full CONTROL over the final print, not to mention that I can see the results in a few minutes, instead of a few days. If I had to buy prints from any lab, the first disadvantage is time. Secondly is the inconsistency of quality. Granted, I sell at a much larger quantity than you do, from 20 prints per mediocre show to 50+ prints at a really good show. I do about 20-25 shows per year, depending on how many accept me. PS - Always enjoy your videos. Wish I could travel as much as you do, but could not tolerate the extremes of the weather and difficult terrains that you cover!!

[@simeontse5384]

In a digital age, an picture is not a image until you can hold it in your hands. I owned an Epson 4900 and I found that the printing experience another part of creating an image. There is something so satisfying watching the print head go back and forth laying down one of the most expensive liquids known to man. Having had to relocate for work, I had to sell my printer and it is something I miss dearly. Keep up the content coming Thomas, love watching!!!

[@jbairdexp]

One day I'll sit down and work out how much it costs me to make a print at home... until that point, I'll just carry on in ignorance and enjoy all the benefits!

[@ukpete47]

Hi Thomas. I have been printing for a few years a Canon 10s and before that i developed my own film. I love being able to take my pictures and then have them on my wall.

[@AmorLucisPhotography]

Thanks for that really timely video as I've been thinking in the past few weeks about getting a printer. But I'm not sure I agree with your cost comparison. Your costs estimate seems to assume that you replace the printer every year after printing just 30 images. In reality the initial cost of the printer would be spread over the useful lifetime of the printer - 3 to 5 years, perhaps? - rather than one. A fairer cost estimate for the printer costs for one year would therefore be much less, perhaps 180 to 300 pounds per year. If we assume a complete set of inks every year (Thomas: if you could give us an estimate of ink costs on 30 x A2 prints that would be really useful, we're guessing a bit without that info. You suggested that a couple of inks might need replacing every couple of months, so that suggests about 12 inks per year) and high quality art paper at 5 pounds per sheet, I think that comes to between 26 to 30 pounds per sheet, which would be *cheaper* than the lab costs (with errors and test prints probably making them about the same).

[@johnhjic2]

I to find it so satisfying taking the image printing the image and framing the images. In the last three years I have started making my own moulding out of hard woods caving and shaping and its such a scence of achievement. Yes I get a lot of people now asking for frames I think the biggest was 3 meters by 2 meters. But I just love printing my own images. Nice video Thomas.

[@ookiemand]

About the hat, I must say just wash it a bit warm and use it. If I were the maker I would be rather unhappy if you just gave it away. The print looks great and I must ask, how much ink and trial and error cost did you have setting up and tuning the printer and software? Also have you got trouble with clogged ink cartridges? - Lovely video, lovely images!

[@josephbohme7917]

Thomas, if you watch this vid your 14:15 image makes your pro graded monitor a solid 15cc of magenta 0-100 scale and your wall b&w print spot on neutral and you too red. How many color temps ARE FEEDING YOUR SET? I love watching 3 'expert' printers ending up with different prints. As one says "lets go outside and see who is right".

[@MarinaGarrison]

The value of a print depends on your philosophy of photography. Is it about the journey or the end result? For many people (myself included) photography is an art form and the value is in the end result.

[@Momo-yl3hs]

So it’s not about being profitable business investment but rather self-actualization value right ?

[@olivierwhite2451]

Great video Thomas i learned a few things:), i recently bought a pro 100 from canon. You can find refill cartridges online and perfectly fine ink with it. I use brother matte photo paper and my total €1 per print. (a3) it gives you so much more print fun, and you dont have to be so stressed. Printing should be fun.

[@sl2608]

That is what my costs come to also. I think his calculations are way too high. There is no way an A2 print cost in the U.S. is $70 as I believe he said in the video.

[@Goughie]

I’ve considered buying a printer for a while! They are so cheap second hand too! I can’t recommend printing or getting your photos printed enough! There’s something special about holding a print! Ps Don’t give away the hat!! It’s an awesome gift regardless!

[@DylanKJohnson]

Absolutely LOVE that wallpaper on your computer of the dunes. Anybody happen to know what video that was captured during?

[@danielbaggenstos7675]

Congrats to the Lady who made that hat, beautiful work!

[@GMC43]

I look forward to a Sunday. Out most of the day the chill out and watch some Thomas 👌 i learn something new everyday sunday. Thanks Thomas

[@SD_Alias]

one thing to consider is if you have longer printing breaks, for a month or longer, the printhead may clog and dry. So endless cleaning routines and massive ink consumption is the result. I would only buy a printer if i would really often print without longer breaks…

[@RichFreeman]

Yup. I got a printer bundled with a camera and ended up parting it out on Ebay and donating the rest just because it made no sense for me to maintain the thing properly. I wouldn't print that much, and you can't just let an inkjet sit for months between prints. I rarely print anyway, but if I did I'd just order from a lab, where if they run out of ink the middle of a run they just toss it in the trash and print it again. If I were in business I'd be more likely to consider it a cost of doing business and consider the value of being able to turn around prints in a short time. If you get enjoyment out of watching the print come out by all means buy a printer, but I just don't really value that part of the experience...

[@mylittleninjas]

Georg E. I forgot to mention that in my post. Printers are meant to be used as a production tool, not just as a convenience for occasional prints. They become an expensive headache for a lot of unknowing consumers. The sales people won’t tell you that.

[@johnsmith1474]

Important point, these things will use a ton of ink charging themselves.

[@r.alecbowman1232]

You can help keep the inks from drying out by leaving the power on the printer. The heat helps keep the ink from drying out. (This suggestion comes from Canon)

[@renambot]

The pro-1000 does very well even after several weeks not used. I have it in a very dry office for several years and it's fine. It might take a little while to warm up and self-clean, but it's much better than any printer I got before (pro-10, various epson and hp).

[@soloman30]

Have you looked into or experimented with dark room printing? For digital photos an LED projector could be used for an enlarger.

[@craigoneill4504]

Your printing costs are a little skewed... your calculations assume you're paying for the printer in year 1. You'll probably keep the printer for 3 years, so that would be £300 per year for the printer, £469 for ink (probably too high for 30 prints) plus paper... that would be £30 per print on fine art paper, £6.50 cheaper than your print supplier ... Plus you get your prints immediately no postal damage etc... just saying is all. Plus... keep the hat and say sorry. ;-)

[@martinbuttrick]

That’s not taking profits into consideration in the catering trade we would multiply the 30 x 3.5 to give us the selling price plus vat 😁

[@markfectic4887]

You are right Craig but i think he was more giving people an idea of costs if you went out now and purchased the printer gear and what it's going to set you back in the first year. He did mention the costs decrease over time and if you use it more.

[@BubbleGendut]

Agree with Craig. The printer amortization needs to be considered. Makes it a lot cheaper than the Lab!

[@Yannis_Larios]

I agree with Craig. That's the proper way to amortize the costs, not as a once-off cost. Not to mention the overall MUCH better control over printing and the timely production of the end product.

[@christianpetersen1782]

Thanks Thomas for a very interesting video. My experience of printing my own was that I’d print at least 3 prints before I got one just as I wanted it, so probably closer to 100 per year. The options for setting the printer seemed endless with terms I’d never heard of before. The printer would use lots of ink at startup before I even started printing. Jets would get clogged and require self-cleaning which used up yet more ink. I binned the printer at the recycling centre and now have prints done without the hassle and expense. I should add that I hadn’t travelled long journeys to take my photos so perhaps I wasn’t so emotionally attached to the prints. I’m happy to live without the frustration and high cost.

[@seoirse68]

Wow Tom. Just bought a printer this Christmas(Pro 10S) Really pleased with it. The joy of printing an image rounds of the whole photographic experience. Great vlog!

[@romiemiller2485]

Beyond my other comments, the proof is in the printing. It's amazing how much better a photographer you'll become if you print your own photos.

[@MichaelsPaintingChannel]

So how is this printer model and after you print it, how do you proceed? Do you glew it on what a medium?

[@tomaskonkol8894]

Hi Thomas, very nice replica of your hat, love to have it. But! Given Gift should not be given away, its not nice to Pearson who give it to you. Home printing? I love that feeling when you can produce everything at home. Its like in old days when you produce your photos in dark room and in end of day you have your product in your hand.

[@ausmarc1]

Thanks Thomas! Not sure if this video was triggered by my question a few weeks ago about re-editing for print but spot on. Thanks mate!

[@AlbertoMesquita]

Dear Thomas, you're a great landscape photographer and a very nice person from what I can see, but doing cost calculations is something you have no clue how to do it. Hint: start by determining how many prints, on average, you can do with a set of cartridges... By the way, please look at all the other comments that strongly suggest you not to give away the hat, it's a bit offensive for the person who stitched it most certainly with so much affection... now, you'll have to compensate him/her wearing the hat for a whole video ;-)

[@mosheovadya]

Nicely done. What is the vertical light at 0:30? Incidentally, obviously giving the hat away was not a good idea but I am surprised no one has commented about the spa music. Just saying...

[@KeirTheDouche]

They made that hat for you, don't give it away

[@KSXmedia]

Well this is awkward...

[@sujiphoto]

No matter what the subject, I always find myself grinning whilst watching your videos! (Perhaps not so much when you're depressed over camera reviews...) Keep on keeping on!

[@jimrookphotos]

Thomas, maybe since you tried printing, you could try to wash the hat. If it's wool or a blend, it will shrink. Be careful though not to put it into the drier especially in the hot cycle. Do the hot cycle and you'll find out your head is bigger than you think. No pun intended. Regarding printing, yes quality papers are costly but there are some quality options such as Red River Papers that also offer some sales annually thus making their beautiful Baryta paper quite reasonable on cost. You can also consider purchasing smaller sizes of the paper for the test prints.

[@brianbracherphotography]

Another great video. Very timely (or maybe too late!) as I have just bought a Canon Pro 100s and a test pack of Fotospeed paper! Now looking forward to the challenge (and hopefully fun) of printing my own images.

[@AndyGarton]

Probably a silly question, but could you cover the framing part at some point please? Do you cut the border from the print for example? If so, how?

[@johnsmith1474]

It's a great question. Cheapest I've seen is $125 or so to do-it-yourself frame an A2 print with Heaton level quality materials if you buy in bulk using a discount coupon at Hobby Lobby (USA craft chain) and assemble yourself using 2cd quality museum glass (the most expensive part). Double that or more if you give to a frame shop - for one print. Yes the framing costs more than the printing. Proper prints require much larger mats for a respectable border, larger frames, and glass. You do get a real thing, a fantastic object (presuming the image is important!) that will last many decades or more. You can go cheaper for run of the mill end product for casual use but that's not the game is here. Then, you need wall space ....

[@ISo404]

I know this is an old video, but anyway... @18:16 you set the print quality to "highest" but lightroom is set to send the print to the printer driver at 300ppi... so "highest" setting is a bit of a waste then... uncheck the "print resolution" box and Lightroom sends the full resolution of the photo to the printer driver which then in turn, of course, drives the printer.

[@Ulrich.Bierwisch]

You don't need to buy a camera, lenses, tripod, filter, bag, computer, software, printer, ink, paper, travel to remote locations, stay days or weeks in rain and cold just to take a few mediocre pictures and hang them on the wall. You only need to find your favorite youtube channel that does everything for you and sell much better pictures for a decent price. On the other hand - it's fun.

[@miriammoriarty8588]

Ha! Yes. It's the process.

[@jwkooi1979]

Haven't got time to watch now, but look forward to it. Just bought a beginner Canon A3 printer and wouldn't want to go without anymore. Thanx for the nice video's every week. When possible in the future, i'd love to go on a workshop with you

[@WayneRobertsonPhotography]

I agree that it is wise to look into the costs and effort involved with printing your own images before committing to the purchase of an expensive printer. If you can cope with the costs etc. then like you say it's a very rewarding feeling to see your images in print knowing you've done it all from start to finish. I think if you have a passion for photography you will love printing.

[@BadPigg]

I now understand why i think I am crazy and am ok with that. I like the control and satisfaction of the full creative process. I think you have given a perfect diagnosis of this creative and rewarding photography obsession I have. Thank you Thomas.

[@QuietLightPhoto]

Sad to say but I think my head would be too big for the hat, apart from that Karin would be quite offended that I was wearing another man's hat, lol. Okay, the snowy wonderland shot looks great without the twigs at the bottom, you sold me.

[@johnsmith1474]

I'd forgotten the twigs, they would have added scale.

[@tobiasyoder]

@@johnsmith1474 Not really, they were in the very foreground and with a wide lens it would actually make the mountains even smaller. Also, the viewer would not really know how large the twigs were anyway.

[@johnsmith1474]

@@tobiasyoder - Yes really.

[@matthewkrah1567]

Printing is truly rewarding when you are finished with a master file and it comes out to a physical item. Well worth the money!

[@redauwg911]

I don't think that's very nice for someone to send you a gift and you give it away

[@johnsmith1474]

The vid is about printing.

[@redauwg911]

Manners always come first.

[@sk8freshcst]

@@johnsmith1474 It's also about about a hat someone knitted for him. If you put the video on at 1:24 roughly you can see what I'm talking about.

[@edstar83]

I agree.

[@Artyomthewalrus]

I disagree. If it's an ill-fitting hat, it would likely end up unused in a drawer somewhere. It would be more respectful to ensure someone gets to enjoy the hat so the hard work the person who made it put into it doesn't get wasted.

[@siwoku]

Can you do a video on your process to frame it and how to take care once is on the wall? I printed a pictures and frame it, but I am not sure it it needs some sort of protection against dust. thank you

[@critterstocosmos]

I used to think I was your biggest fan. And then someone goes and knits you a hat!!! They win... lol

[@DOM_4GOOD]

yeah BUT, it dosen't fit him , so we may still have a chance ;)

[@critterstocosmos]

I couldn't knit to save my life. I could send Thomas one of my used hats. Correction... previously enjoyed hat.

[@johnsmith1474]

The vid is about printing.

[@photographingwithcarl8729]

John Smith stfu

[@sk8freshcst]

​@@johnsmith1474 It's also about about a hat someone knitted for him. If you put the video on at 1:24 roughly you can see what I'm talking about.

[@johnwright5642]

A very interesting and comprehensive video. Thank you for showing me exactly how to work with ON1 And other software in Photoshopping. Just what I needed.

[@happycamper6260]

You haven't added in the $489 for an XRite Studio 1 monitor/printer calibrator..

[@pdp11]

Happy Camper absolutely, you can't print without profiling.

[@cameronstoneadams1183]

@ Thomas Heaton. What other "colors" do you use for Lightoom. Blue=print? This might help my work flow. Thanks!

[@romiemiller7876]

The cost is inaccurate. The printer cost needs to be spread out over the life of the printer, not one year. And, for people who print a lot, such as portrait photographers, the cost of a print you make yourself is about 1/4 of a high quality print from a good lab. And what really makes me angry, some labs put Hahnemuhle and Canson papers in what the call "Gleclee" prints. and charge an extra $100 for a print. There is no reason for the extra price. Also, if one gets to be a very good printer, you'll make prints that are better than the ones you'd get from a lab. Finally, and perhaps most important, once you understand printing you'll be a better photographer. * I agree with you 100% on NOT buying 3rd party inks or pigments. Fortunately, I have an excellent local lab that will print large prints at reasonable prices.

[@AnthonyKellett]

Yes. Dividing the printer cost, over 12 months, is just silly. Print costs, excluding printer and time, will work out to £6 or £7, for A2 on decent art paper.

[@rhonaldjr]

Good video, I think this is the second video on printing from you. Enjoyed and it will be useful for me in the future.

[@EasyFinnish]

I need that hat in Finland right NOW! It is freezing cold!

[@khanscombe619]

So how would you compare modern laser printing from digital scans to 8x10 to 16-20 compared to engineering & print to photographic papers if for just black & white?

[@davemenard5089]

I was gonna knit you a hat. Now I don’t think I will.

[@Deliquescentinsight]

Yeah,. what an ingrate!

[@jord9261]

That was a real slap in the face for the person who made it

[@MTi-yl4oy]

@@jord9261 he says the person that made him the hat said. "if the hat doesn't fit. You can donate it"

[@pacomartos5315]

Fantasty video, i am not going to buy a printer, but how are the standard setting in lightroon to send to print in a lab?

[@hupenpeter]

Shrink the hat with a hot wash. Don't give it away. Honor the Donor!

[@johnsmith1474]

The vid is about printing.

[@hupenpeter]

@@johnsmith1474 without his opening this would be true. I really like him, but this is a bit unsensitive.

[@johnsmith1474]

@@hupenpeter - It's true no matter the opening.

[@johnsmith1474]

@@redauwg911 - How fucking stupid.

[@johnsmith1474]

@@redauwg911 - Tsk tsk manners!

[@davidwaldrop5195]

In one of your videos you framed a large subtle landscape (60 inches wide I think). Was the print under glass? if not, did you use any protective spray/coating on the print? Thanks.

[@UTAZCO.Overland]

To me, controlling the WHOLE process, from capture, through editing, to printing is worth the expense. I average about 60 prints sold per year (mostly my 'print of the month') sold at art shows. Hope I can switch some of that revenue to online...

[@RS.Outdoors]

Looking at getting a Canon Pro 100 or maybe a Pro 10 as I would like to see my images in the flesh at home as soon as I have edited the file. However it still at times seems to make more sense to use a Lab.

[@worldofrandometry6912]

Oh dear, Hatgate!

[@johnsmith1474]

Half of every crowd is below average intelligence by definition.

[@mdimp1468]

You’re leading the pack, a John Smith.

[@jbilly24]

John Smith are your nuts numb?

[@larsthoren3282]

Everytime you upload a video about printing I get excited!

[@user-fza3]

thanks for the video I enjoy it , but about the hat don't say if any body want take it as it dosnet mean any thing to you even if you don't like it just who make it for you he send it from his heart and he take atime to make it and send it for you, again thanks for the video

[@PMCJohn]

It’s funny because I work at a print shop, one of the largest fees on most of our jobs is the cost of the paper, but it depends on the job. However we don’t use inkjet often, only when we are working on a wide format printer, we use laser jet which is a lot less expensive but has a smaller color range. But still anyways, the digital printer industry now has gone to absolute crap, they charge so much for something so inexpensive for them, and they make their machines bully you with software errors. For example, inkjet cartridges are sold for like $30USD when they produce them for probably $1-4 each. And the cartridges have chips in them that say they’re “empty” when they are still half full. However in the end, the satisfaction you spoke of, is what makes me like printing so much, I am able to supervise a print from receiving a file or even a request, to printing it, to packaging it, to shipping, delivering, or handing off the product. It is just an outstanding feeling.

[@hyreemadz7281]

It's my first to watch his video and stopped right away when he was giving away the hat! I feel bad for his fans who made that special for him.

[@Trailrunner.]

Thanks for the Infos. Whey didn‘t you buy a printer with a Roll Adater Option? What do you think about the new Epson SC p 900

[@gstandaert]

I totally agree with you. The initial invest of buying a decent printer, inks and a couple of different papers is rather big. But seeing your own photograph rolling out of your own printer is just magical :) ps: When you print from Lightroom there's an option to print the copy name underneath the image. No need to smudge it :p

[@PaulHowcroft]

Great informative video Thomas giving me some things to think over regarding printing

[@EugenioTrainer]

In the USA there is a way that you can buy that printer for $200 brand new. Great video!

[@unknownKnownunknowns]

Eugenio hi how please?

[@EugenioTrainer]

@@unknownKnownunknowns I you are student or if you have any student in your family, you can apply for the student ID in B&H, then a few times a year Canon and BH will send you an email offering you the printer for $500 and a rebate of $300 = $200 I did that and I am happy, I saw that offer twice las year.

[@mrdolby]

Very good video. Might as well do a video about framing and mounting. I would really like to get some tips here.

[@Skidoo22]

Wow somebody made a hat and now its a giveaway. Thankyou to hatspace for.....

[@nougatbitz]

Regarding colour reproduction, resolution and archival longevity/ color stability over time ... should I go for photo prints or rather choose "exposure on photo paper" (not exactly sure about the correct term) ?

[@Mojave511]

With all due respect, I think you might ask an accountant to help with the cost calculations. I love making my own prints of my work to my satisfaction. I don't really care what it costs, it is the results that I am interested in. Probably a carryover from when I printed all my own black & white in the chemical darkroom loving the process as well as the results.

[@charlarge3555]

Thank you. did you use the Palette Master Element software to calibrate your BenQ?

[@Disco_Shrew]

Come on Thomas, giving away the hat? That's really unacceptable.

[@a.keithclarke7975]

Agreed, (publicly, no less) giving away a gift seems a bit ruthless!

[@cyberathlete]

Great video! Which Epson scanner are you using?

[@RandyPollock]

How to ruin a decent video about the pros and cons of printing (I'm a Pro 10 printing guy myself)...discuss how you are going to give away a knit hat that doesn't fit...comments explode.

[@wellwhatthen10101]

Awesome video Thomas i love that photo you took . Can you tell me what camera and lens you used on that trip for that photo. Looks like that canon 1000 printer is very good. and roughly how many photos of that size A2 you can get out of the cartridges

[@paulbarnard5267]

Anyone else thinking Tom has a ‘ghost’ account called John Smith? It’s certainly a pseudonym common in the UK.

[@reiddickson]

I would be very surprised if that was him. "John Smith" doesn't seem to communicate with nearly the same attitude.

[@doodles1977]

Well explained Thomas! I do have two questions regarding the printing and proofing process. Why not compare the proofed version side by side to the original file? You can then adjust the proofed version by eye and match it to the original. And second: do you ever sharpen your images specifically for print? You seem to sharpen the file a little in the develop tab and then print it without further ado. I'd bring the file into Photoshop for specific sharpening, or have Lightroom export a file for print and have it apply major sharpening during export. Would love to hear your thoughts on this.

[@mauraseabrooke9768]

I am a bit disappointed with you Thomas. Someone has gone to the trouble of knitting that hat for you and you just want to give it away. I don't think you realise the work that is involved. Tut Tut Tut!!!

[@nickfanzo]

Maura Seabrooke young folks don’t have empathy

[@markfectic4887]

Really intuitive video Thomas! I'm still in limbo about buying a printer or not. I don't know if your video helped me or asked more questions... haha. It definitely helped :)

[@batworker]

I hate printers. Rule one of network management - have 2 workstations and 2 printers you’ll spend 50% of your time on the printers...have 200 workstations and 2 printers you’ll still spend 50% of your time on the printers 😂😂😂

[@RichFreeman]

Seriously, if I got a call from my wife while I was at work 4/5 times it was due to printer frustrations. I switched to a color laser and those headaches went way down, and we'd just order prints online. There is a reason the office buildings at my company don't have inkjet printers in them...

[@jasonedonovan]

Tom - please advise us on your smart watch. I get lost easily and need a watch to track where I am with GPS. Thanks

[@AlanMorrisSF]

Shrink the Hat: Wash it and put it in the dryer.

[@demppa8323]

I really like your "man in a shed" analogy. There are 2 types of people a pro/enthusiast printers cater for: the people who are actually looking to streamline their print sales and see this as an investment, and the people who are not going to sell a single print but want more involvement in the craft. I hate when a lot of videos focus on the former crowd and turn into an echo chamber of "just use labs if you're not printing all the time". Getting that new lens does not always make sense, but the enjoyment you get from the experience has a lot of worth on its own. I see printers and printing similar: It is indeed the missing link of turning that vision in your mind into something tangible. Thanks for the video, I enjoyed the "going on a bit" parts the most!

[@jasonfazio6170]

I bought a printer purely to control my product. I've learned a lot. Still in the negative, but learned a lot. Lol

[@markfectic4887]

What printer did you buy?

[@jasonfazio6170]

@@markfectic4887, I've got the Canon 100 and the 1000.

[@johnmielke243]

Can you add a video(s) about framing? I do print my photos with a canon 9500 (considering the Pro 1000). The range of costs in considering frames is phenomenal and seems to be the next step in finishing the “output” of our creativity. Thanks!

[@daykz69]

The hat give away is a no no, a rethink is in order. I am torn on buying a quality printer over lab prints due to the cost etc. But having the ability to get it immediately to see the results is a tough one to get past. I will continue to ponder, in the meantime great vlog as ever.

[@zalllon]

I got an Epson 3880 when it first came out, and it’s still going strong. F-ing initially expensive, but I enjoy it. I mainly print 11x14 on Epson Luster, and do all my test prints on 4x6 cut from 8.5x11 luster sheets.

[@desgardner7169]

Wow that bought a few home truths about the cost of printing to perfection, but I am sure you can afford that!....now about that hat, just let your hair grow thicker! You simply can't give a prezie away can you....I enjoyed your video, thanks for sharing....