Why Yoimiya is a Good Concept that was Poorly Executed (Genshin Impact Gameplay Design Analysis)

In this video I discuss Yoimiya's gameplay design issues and how that leads to the overall effect of her not fulfilling any niche, despite being a limited 5 star character.
Intro: 0:00
Yoimiya’s Concept: 1:01
Basic Attack Combo: 2:02
Charged Shot: 3:11
ICD + Reactions: 3:57
Burst Damage: 5:17
Ascension 4 Buff: 6:20
Burst Restriction: 6:56
Verdict: 7:42
Visual Design Details: 8:54
#Genshin #GeshinImpact #Yoimiya

[@RedFlaim]

This video probably would have been out sooner but my PC was acting up a bunch Now that I have a new PC though I’m going to (try my best to) stream every day until I resume college in September :] Come hang out twitch.tv/redflaimm at 2pm Eastern time if you wanna

[@squamman631]

‘,:-)

[@unfortunatelyren]

September... my classes starts this Monday... I envy you.

[@milloot]

Ayee September college gang! Great video as always

[@kevinhean2299]

try kazuha, he doing swirl alone boost dmg dealt by~50% through resistance shred and elemental dmg bonus. combined with bennett, that boost ~60% dmg through pure atk. rather than unnecessary overload reaction that causes some enemies to be exploded, and makes ur arrow misses, or vaporize that only boost 50% every 3 arrows or effectively 16,67%. u can use 1 free slot for any character, xingqiu is fine, zhongli for comfort pick/aoe dmg dealer etc also fine.

[@gachromvisimu4437]

0:45 "yet in execution in just fails in many way" IS BECAUSE HER NORMAL ATTACK FUSED PYRO ARROW HAS INTERNAL COOLDOWN, BASICALLY HER NORMAL NEEDS THREE HIS AFTER ELEMENT BEEN APPLIED TO ENEMY REACTION BEEN LOCKED DAMAGE THOSE REACT!!!!

[@kyuregumen]

I don't know why miHoYo didn't think of adding AOE explosions to her normal attacks

[@unfortunatelyren]

It's probably because Klee will lose her uniqueness if they make Yoimiya attacks AOE

[@ndiyabucaphukelaubusobakho1732]

@@unfortunatelyren make them more like fire works if that's the case

[@nyx.y]

@@unfortunatelyren Are you talking about her charged attack or her normal attack?

[@unfortunatelyren]

@@nyx.y Both, You didn't know that her basic attacks are AOE?

[@stormwind351]

@@unfortunatelyren so we sacrifice one five star for another older one?

[@nnwrtz077]

I love her personality and character design, that’s why i pulled her. I really like people who loves what they’re doing and actually passionate about it. Its so sad that such a great character who i fell in love at first sight has so many gameplay issues.. i hope they rework her kit one day..

[@nah4437]

Me too, I’ve honestly been considering swapping her out for another character because it’s just so hard to play her sometimes :(( I love her to death tho and don’t wanna have to do that, but I’m getting too many archers on my team at this point and I’m not giving up my Ganyu main status

[@inqyr4707]

her personalities is one of the best in the game imo. but she doesn't feel right to play

[@morganvanlenthe5425]

That’s how I feel about childe. He feels so fun and cool to play but his CD on his e is a fatal flaw. To this day he’s my favourite to play and I love him to bits but man his e is such bad design

[@I.disagree]

@@inqyr4707 Yeah, that's one of the only reasons why I didn't pull for her, I wish she was more fun gameplay wise (In comparison with other 5 star characters)

[@khonsenwright4986]

I hope Mihoyo will start working on her immediately once they're done buffing the shit out of Baal. (would be better sooner but at this point I'm more concerned about them remembering about her in general)

[@PopstarCharles]

You have so many good points here. Even though she’s a fun and cool character, she doesn’t feel like she excels and shines as a 5*. Hopefully she receives buffs at some point, because she’s by far the most underwhelming release since she’s in an awkward spot. I really like her unique niche, she just needs to fulfill it better since there are so many elements that hold her back.

[@valenroman5642]

after playing her it feels like she's a 5* Yanfei, but worse because her normal attacks can miss and has no AoE. She's still very fun tho and I love her, but I wish they didn't do her this dirty 🥺

[@PopstarCharles]

@@valenroman5642 yeah she’s a jack of all trades but a master of none. her DPS and her support capabilities are really awkward and she’s not the best at either, she doesn’t need to be broken she just needs to feel better 🥺 I managed to beat abyss with her and childe teamed up but the runs were way harder than when I just used xiangling 😭

[@potatocommenter]

I stopped wishing at one point i think it started in kazuha’s banner so i can get sayu. I knew i had pity and guaranteed on her since i lost 50/50 last time so I prepared all the materials required and when i lvled her up she was kind of disappointing compared to kazuha and ayaka yoimiya is kind of underwhelming but i still use her for a pyro dps

[@Ikesfavpen]

Like she is just as bad of a banner spot as albedo exept albedo's kit is actually good

[@Balbaneth]

its not a buff she needs its her entire kit works against her concept. She needs an actual rework of her kit to have her be where she should be as it stands she is Queen of Fireworks in name only.

[@waldherivomwald5895]

It just feels like Mihoyo tried to do something new(kindling arrows and the burst dot) but they didn't balenced it enough and it's not so special

[@waldherivomwald5895]

If you look at her Q's dot just take Hu tao's blood blossom they took it and made it worse ngl.

[@GimOA]

@@waldherivomwald5895 yea, much worse elemental applications and does single target instead of crowd control. Yoimiya enjoyer at this point are the one who pull her solely on character design, not about gameplay (Not on the damage meta but character mechanic).

[@KingJH0510]

They shouldve totally made her charge shot an aoe firework explosion instead of the 3 homing shots

[@PaulinaGnecco]

Ngl feels like they made her pretty and cool just to make coins

[@curryfishheadenjoyer]

@@GimOA even in the yoimiya mains discord before her release everyone was talking about how shes probably going to suck but theyre still pulling anyway because waifu

[@Bananaman74799]

Sucks the see it happen to such a fun and bubbly character, hopefully she becomes more viable with future units or a buff

[@zuninona]

She’s legit amber 2.0. Similar personalities, needs buff, pyro archer, and yea

[@Kevin-qh1ve]

Honestly she's rather simple to fix, just make her burst has no ICD and it will be at least decent (plus you can consistently Vaporize each hit). If we want to go further maybe either add splash damage to her special normals or tweak the numbers a bit (but maybe not both because then Klee will be the one who's completely obsolete).

[@syiox8854]

The thing is she probably isn’t going to get a buff. The Genshin community’s “simp culture” won’t accept that a character is bad. Which is really weird because your favourite character doesn’t have to be good, but I guess they’re deluding themselves. The effect of this simp culture is that mihoyo are going to release half baked characters like Yoimiya and still are going to get their money. Imo if u really like Yoimiya, people should acknowledge how bad she is and try to push for a buff, instead of berating the people who actually tries to do so.

[@mochiamori]

@@syiox8854 did you forget the large amount of backlash Zhongli got when he was first released? the playerbase was so vocal about their criticisms that mihoyo acknowledged it and buffed him in the next patch, making him one of, if not the best, supports in the game. granted zhongli is the geo archon so him being underwhelming/flawed was a big fuck up on mihoyos part. but with Yoimiya she is not only one of the many pyro units we have but one of the many inazuma characters we will be getting in the future, shes not exactly an important character. so it doesn't seem likely that mihoyo would take time to buff her, time that can be used on future characters instead. even if some people ignore her problems and get mad at those who bing them up, it doesn't represent the community as a whole.

[@Alex-xc8bi]

@@mochiamori But that was the CN server. The reason Zhongli got reworked is because he's the liyue archon. And since liyue represents china the cn server got butthurt and demanded a rework because their gods shouldn't be represented in such a way. Yoimiya is basically a nobody (as in real world significance), but let's hope the gameplay complaints stack up to the point that they HAVE to rework it.

[@ghostwas_here]

it was dainsleif's signature line and they didnt do it.. *aoe pyro damage*

[@inqyr4707]

"Aoe Geo damage"

[@kaga.mine.]

flashbacks from klee trailer

[@itsazzy1703]

aoe wallet damage

[@nemesistim371]

aOe BrAiN dAMaGe

[@tommyreiss5457]

Aoe emotional damage Ik that isn't funny anymore

[@raihanrusli2720]

Is there a curse for pyro archerin genshin ? Both amber and yoimiya are in the "why character" series here. Even though, both characters are so fun with their characterization, but have gameplay problems :(

[@longstachkaido240]

just be happy they can crit

[@ss-cp2uy]

@Longstachkaido please stop reminding me about this, i’m on kokopium rn

[@repliesthendisappears2982]

@@ss-cp2uy lmao kokopium

[@justapotato1176]

Because there are a lot more pyro characters lol

[@Ashera5469]

I think yoimiya mightve been to similiar to amber

[@nicole4956]

3:07 - "No other main dps struggles to put out damage the same way yoimiya does" My diluc ult-ing when fighting hilichurls: I think I'm going to aim towards the river

[@PRO100SashaX]

The fun part is that even if Diluc desides to aim his ult to the moon he's still gonna hit a few enemies because its aoe is so freaking massive. Good luck doing aoe with fireworks lol.

[@juanhurtado7244]

just group them

[@GimOA]

@@juanhurtado7244 s i n g l e t a r g e t w i t h n o AOE

[@juanhurtado7244]

@@GimOA ? I was talking about Diluc man.

[@cashtor6557]

the thing is even if diluc ult is fucked by genshin's auto targeting, he still benefits from ulting because you still get the pyro infusion. plus diluc ult is 40 energy cost making it very easy to gain back. if you miss yoimiya ult thats like a big chunk of downtime

[@Drancia_]

It would be cool if her arrow could like bounce between different enemies. If the arrow bounced between like 3 enemies or so, it creates an explosion that deals pyro damage. I think that would fit her lore very well and would also help with her AoE damage.

[@YayaFeiLong]

Sadly I don't know if Mihoyo is willing to rework her that much. Maybe if enough people ask for it they'll rework her for her eventual rerun?

[@Drancia_]

@@YayaFeiLong I mean they did something for zhongli right? But I am really not sure if they go out of their way to do so much, because this mechanic would open up so much more about her kit and you could even make constelations around it. Maybe if they see the profit they made of her, they might reconsider. Thats at least what I hope for. Imo she is a very interesting character and I think she looks cute but she just doesnt feel good to play.....

[@danuarta5075]

@@Drancia_ Yoimiya might get buffed like Zhongli, but Zhongli is a different case. Zhongli is an Archon that supposed to defend Liyue (Chinese), that's why almost 50% who angry about weak Zhongli is Chinese. Yoimiya in the other hand is already strong (but weak at the same time) and no one 'really' care about her.

[@floof6645]

So what beidou does

[@danuarta5075]

@@floof6645 huh?

[@nyx4074]

For those who only care about Yoi from character design / character aesthetic perspective. This video is about her kits, her abilities, and her in-game performance and how she is meta wise. Keep that in mind.

[@demonking-zm3rs]

I don't know it feels like with enough experimenting and the right situation she would feel ideal still think we should give it a few months (without any alterations to her gameplay) I know the idea is how her stats work by default but I still think Mihoyo made her with a certain intention in mind

[@KazumiyaEnthusiast]

@@demonking-zm3rs her ideal situation is a bossfight where she can't miss due to enemy being large and single-target. But then abyss has multiple enemies and she doesn't have AoE so... meta-wise she is useless

[@KazumiyaEnthusiast]

She could've been pyro childe but mihoyo did her dirty

[@stormwind351]

@@demonking-zm3rs we shouldn’t have to wait more than a week to find the perfect situation for a character

[@demonking-zm3rs]

@@stormwind351 Why not the way I see it this is just the Bennet or Albedo issue but less apparent in how she should work. People are treating Mihoyo like there stupid but I think the real issue are these new character don't function in the way the current meta works where AOE, Crit and Reactions are the biggest thing. Kokomi is considered shit because she doesn't Crit but now there isn't a need to grind so hard for Crit artifact's. Yoimiya has a function I honestly don't believe a week or two with everyone relying on the same formula to utilize her gameplay is enough. I've seen someone beat Oceanid with only Barbara that shouldn't be possible but it is and while that's rough spot I think as she is its possible to do more if people are willing to be unorthodox

[@reireiryuuji]

I heard that the beta testers for 2.0 were most disappointed with Yoimiya's gameplay, so I assumed that most of her issues are fixed on her release. Guess that wasn't the case.

[@heronumber009]

Have you considered that she was created in the first place as an average, filler unit? Her selling point is to focus on her look/personality (for the Waifu crowd)? With the number of characters in the game and upcoming, it's impossible for every character to be amazing. SOme gonna get the short end of the stick, no question about it.

[@thetalkativefos716]

@@heronumber009 no she really wasn't, the testers literally admitted that they never gave an feedback other than minor clunckiness. Also no characters are 'filler' if they wanted a filler they would've used a re-run not make an entire fucking character Like use those braincells for a sec

[@johnsyrup7323]

@@thetalkativefos716 Actually I think it's true she was made as filler. Ask yourself why did miHoYo make her banners so unappealing (Xinyan, Skyward Blade)? Most meta ppl are skipping for Baal anyway. It's mainly targeted towards Yoimiya fans. They roll for her no matter what but many of them likely not get good characters and 5* weapon. Then when Baal banner comes all the good characters and weapons are there, encouraging Yoimiya fans to spend more money. Edit: Forgot to mention it also targets Sayu wanters. Also potentially disadvantageous because you could accidentally get Yoimiya and ruin 50/50 guaranteed.

[@odinson4184]

​@@johnsyrup7323 So if that's the case, why not pump her power, baiting people so they can spend on baal? Your kind of speculation is just generally wrong. No sane company wants to put in the effort of pumping out millions for unique music, 4 VAs, money on design and gameplay, just for a shitshow they know will have bombed sales like her banner which is a historical low. It's more likely they didn't have the resources to balance her, were very incompetent at their job, or fell behind schedule to balance her as they were required to release her in 2.0, whether she was fixed or not.

[@kurodo9926]

There can't be a fuckin filler character in this game you damn morons. Have you even considered how much choices go for a character creation? If mihoyo wanted a skippable placeholder they would've ran a fuckin Albedo banner. I'm not a mihoyoknight but goddamn guys, respect people's work. Inazuma characters were being made since 1.3

[@2FireWind]

Being honest when I hear that yoimiya is fireworks expert the first I thought was AoE damage, how the fireworks are, plus I thought should be look incredible in combat. But nop, mihoyo decided that the big explosion of fireworks is single hit with no color or explosion. Is really sad, a incredible idea waste, yoimiya could have explosion but weaker than klee but with more range

[@GimOA]

@@mattiaberti9160 Minecraft "fireworks" can kill a player with only 2-3 shots, given the player was unarmored. You'd still think that monsters goes off with a bang isn't as amazing as that?

[@mattiaberti9160]

@@GimOA I meant in reality.

[@decapulet]

@@mattiaberti9160 lol that's a good point!

[@StenMKIIMyBeloved]

@@decapulet It can still injured people if not careful enough. But I think store bought fireworks is mostly harmless.

[@JeSt4m]

@@mattiaberti9160 Yes but it's wide. You can't get severe burn over firework but for sure the sparks can travel several dozens meters around blast radius with way less explosive material used in a bomb of similar radius. So yes shittier damage but wider AoE than Klee is reasonable. Even if NOTHING is changed from current Yoimiya stat but they actually implement flashy fireworks into all of her attack or heck just into enemy who got marked by her Burst I would still roll for her just for the pyrotechnics.

[@bromegaman5962]

I love Yoimiya, but I feels like Mihoyo set up everything so players would want to skip her. -Banner placement (between Ayaka and Baal) -Her Element(Too many pyro dps for her to compete with) -Her Kit(Unsynergistic, single target isn't needed and her damage can't make up for being single target) -Game mechanics work against her(ICD, Auto target, Arrow travel time, Lock on range) -Released her story quest 3 weeks before banner(solidifying her kit, so no chance for last minute changes like with Ganyu) I feel like it would've been better if they put a rerun instead of her banner and actually spent time to work on the character. They could have kept her in the main story, but then just released her later. They did that with Childe, Zhongli, Ganyu and Xiao. It feels like such a they rushed her for no reason other than to get another character out.

[@tuturu2258]

They added sayu to her banner tho. Most players would try to get the new 4* and therefore a ton of players would get her by accident

[@bromegaman5962]

@@tuturu2258 Imagine they secretly boosted her rates above the usual 0.3% lol it seemed like a lot of players pulled her early, so I'd believe it if they did. Me and a friend both pulled her really early; 10 summons in and 20 summons in.

[@Azaleaaah]

I didn't play back then so i dont really know but wasnt Childe released in the same update as the main story for liyue?

[@tuturu2258]

@@bromegaman5962 i pulled her 68 summons in lol usually takes me hard pity to get a 5*

[@bromegaman5962]

@@Azaleaaah Yeah Childe's banner first came out and lead into the final part for the Liyue chapter

[@phyrexian_dude4645]

Im kinda surprised that for how good looking her ult is, she only puts only 1 mark on an AOE attack... like, seriously? Doesnt it makes more sense that all enemies on its radius to be marked? Its almost like they didnt give too much thought to that Ult. And dont say "that could break her C1" because you could easily put a cap to that.

[@aether8253]

they shouldve made the ult affect all enemies around her range

[@whyamihere6438]

@@aether8253 up until now i always thought she dealt aoe damage but only applied one mark, now im heartbroker she doesnt even deal aoe damage

[@suffersudoku]

I was initially sold on how Yoimiya could instantly swap roles between DPS and sub-DPS, which has never really been done before. This could have made her a vital role in reaction teams and also easy to pair with other DPS characters like Childe to compensate for cooldowns. I really hope Mihoyo refines this idea a bit more because it's too interesting to just be forgotten about.

[@JeSt4m]

IKR? Initially I have this idea of building her as replacement of Bennet in my Overload Bennet team (TF Bennet, Beidou, NO Xingqiu, Fischl) with core idea of switching DPS back and fro between her + Beidou + fischl overload when she's on the field and Physical Fischl + Xingqiu Vapor in rotation using her burst.. But I didn't realize that her Burst is so inconsistent that it cannot be used as reaction enabler. shame.

[@suffersudoku]

@@JeSt4m Same. When I saw her leaks I had a plan to put her together with Childe since they can both cover for each other and her burst can act as an enabler for Childe (I know Xiangling does way more damage than Yoimiya but I don't really like playing with Xiangling).

[@KazumiyaEnthusiast]

@@suffersudoku Childe is too fast to have Yoimiya as an enabler - 2 seconds is just too long (and it also fks up because icd is 2.5 seconds) . Xiangling on the other hand doesn't have icd on her burst (for whatever reason) and can apply pyro fast enough to keep up with Childe.

[@Navi-fg5ih]

"...could instantly swap roles between DPS and sub-DPS, which has never really been done before..." this is Kaeya erasure hahaha

[@Vanle-oq8vm]

There are some quick fixes for her if they DON'T want to boost her AoE or ICD: 1. Make her charged shot' kindling arrows homing on enemy' weakspot => very useful to fight ruin guards or to stun enemies on mobile. 2. Make her AA sequence doesn't reset after sprinting, only reset 1-2s after being interrupted. 3. Let her proc her own burst so people can enjoy her more. I think those are very reasonable changes and can definitely give her more value but won't break the game.

[@nodrvgs]

these are really good changes. Idk what mihoyo has against pyro archers tbh

[@hellothere_1257]

Also, don't cancel her elemental skill if you switch to another character. This was easily the most annoying thing I noticed after I started using her. There have been quite a few situations where I wanted to briefly switch to another character while her skill was active, except you can't because it instantly ends the skill.

[@drei9921]

@@hellothere_1257 welcome to the life of a Hu Tao main💀

[@irtehmrepic]

I don't think Yoimiya would have been received nearly as badly if she was a standard 5 star. The fact we don't know when she'll be available again and if she'll be buffed in the future makes it just insulting.

[@xdsmile5359]

Honestly yoimiya might be very underwhelming. She is both like amber and better but ironically suffers the same problems as amber. The only thing I use her for is her ult and for homing in on birds.

[@yumyum96969]

in an alternate universe, yoimiya’s skill makes her autos count as charged attack (so she can use 4p wt) and have her charged attack during the skill a short range shotgun blast. Her ult can mirror ganyu’s ult but as a firework. I’m tired of people saying “yOu jUsT wAnT a nUke” so i’ll just add this bit right here. She doesn’t need to do ganyu damage but damn mhy do better.

[@aldyzero6676]

Yoimiya's normal attacks are super great for single target, but her burst...why the hell it only target 1 enemy...we need to quickly kill that 1 enemy so then the firework can spread to other enemies...

[@Neucher]

At C6 Amber is an objectively more complex character than Yoimiya. Let that sink in.

[@brinksuki]

true...

[@Daniele-PierreDuLac]

As she should. C6 Amber probably costs more than C6 Yoimiya.

[@inqyr4707]

@@Daniele-PierreDuLac It's sad that starter constellations are harder to get than literal 5 stars. I feel bad for Amber, Kaeya, and Lisa mains who have to deal with the fact that it'll be extremely hard to get C6 of their main

[@CoolMintMC]

@@inqyr4707 Yep. There's LITERALLY NO REASON that we shouldn't be able to roll them in Event Banners. Literally EVERYONE gets Barbara for free @ AR20, but SHE STILL gets into Event Banners, as a FEATURED CHARACTER NO LESS.

[@nogidoki3325]

@avs 4 stars characters doesnt have a pity system,u just get random one every 10 rolls. Plus the starter characters can only be gotten in standard banner and nobody unless beginngers by mistake or whales roll on standard.

[@josiesetiawan9516]

whoever designed her personality and visual design deserves my entire heart and soul because she symbolizes joy

[@violaberry413]

If mihoyo just keeps on releasing pyro units it's gonna get too saturated real fast. Newer pyro dps units will have a harder time filling roles because the older ones have already taken the spots.

[@Azaleaaah]

We still don't have quick pyro enabler/pyro applicator. Hopefully Thoma can fill that spot

[@horyer8684]

And also cryo. I know eula is more of a physical dmg character than a cryo but i just wanna see more of other elements.

[@veggsbacon1891]

Pyro and Cryo are getting out of hand. Geo needs more love.

[@megaconure]

Yeah, hu tao already existed for single target pyro, and yanfei/amber already existed for long range pyro... Yoimiya didn't really stand a chance, especially with how good hu tao is. And yanfei isn't that bad either. Which sucks, because yoimiya has one of the best designs and characterizations :/

[@judgementalpie9215]

I'm saying this as someone who will be getting Kokomi, can't wait for the Kokomi episode. (Pleas prove me wrong MihoYo)

[@SophiaC]

I'm also high on Kokopium and very ready for Redflaim to point out the flaws in her because I know she will have many. Why MHY is nerfing her like this, I don't get, but I can't not pull our mermaid god 😭

[@kazooboi8001]

why are the characters i like becoming the most underwhelming ones :(( i wanted yoimiya and I got her and I want to get kokomi, mihoyo don't make me regret pulling for my waifuus

[@user-ci3pw3nl1o]

Kokomi has such a unique concept, not needing crit scales is definitely interesting and a benefit for people with bad artifact luck, though is quite sad miHoYo just keep nerfing her. Though miHoYo probably won't care since the spotlight is on Baal, I wouldn't even be surprised if they put Barbara and Noelle on Kokomi's banner

[@ndiyabucaphukelaubusobakho1732]

welp ._.

[@tems9281]

Welp indeed.

[@Ma_ch-an]

As a main dps Yoimiya main i can really feel(?) those problems, it kinda makes me sad that these problems exist because it made people ignore her when she is a great character in terms of personality and design, but no character is perfect, and I really hope they'll "fix" those issues, but I'm still extremely happy to have her. As people say : Waifu over meta.

[@nandhitanarendratmaja1302]

I'm not a meta guy (i enjoy strolling the open world and listening to the music more), but i feel that at least every character especially if they're a 5* must at least function uniquely and more coherent (even more than 4*). Sure character design > meta, but that's not a reason to haphazardly design a characters kit

[@hafizhandrian9148]

you can say that "Waifu over meta" for thousand times. but unfortunately, most people using that famous line were literally to deny the fact that she's very underwhelming and "problematic" among the limited chara. its good to hear tho that you recognize of yoi problems and not being denial

[@Thighsandwich]

@@hafizhandrian9148 well if they want to enjoy the game casually its totally up to them. Its better to play the game when you're having fun with a certain character than one who isnt as fun. Meta players are just different where they will min/max it and they find this part of the game fun instead of certain character designs. I myself dont have Yoimiya because I dont find her fun, but thats just my opinion, not others.

[@yourself6930]

Easy to use than dark souls bow user

[@Kenna002]

It's so disappointing because she's such a cute character. I just recently started playing and she is actually my first five star and even I was underwhelmed playing with her

[@Andyandy69696]

If MYH does what they do to some characters in Honkai to Yoimiya (where evading mid-combo can continue after the evade), she can get up to her 5-hit combo a lot easier. Fixing archers in general, having a better ult that contributes to her DPS. These are some of the things that will make her a much more playable character.

[@rumtears8755]

dude, i’m literally obsessed with your videos. you do such an amazing job at everything about them, keep it up!

[@mythologiasend3264]

How to fix Yoimiya: give her Ninguangg c1 as her ascension passive. She will be unique enough without becoming much more powerful

[@vonakakkola]

i think it's better if the player can select the target, rather than add aoe just like every other character

[@themegaxzero]

I have Yoimiya, and I have her as a sub-DPS, switching to my main DPS when I use her ult. But with how many enemies (especially in inazuma) dash at you and go out of your view, I have completely missed and wasted Yoi’s ult multiple times, always leaving her on CD for everything :/ Idk it it feels like the AOE on applying her ult is really small imo.

[@Azaleaaah]

@@Nekogami04 i do that too but only in abyss

[@Nova-Sopa_Nova]

Yoimiya reminds me of Rosaria, which constellations promote her to be a physical main dps, but talents promote her to be switched out after using ultimate

[@GreenHoleSun]

You are right but at least Rosaria is 4 star and it is still fun to play (you can also use her doing your damage first, use your elemental skill, then your burst and then switch, kind of sub dps). Yoimiya is just a 5 star meh.

[@vonakakkola]

@@GreenHoleSun simply Rosaria can be used as a main physical dps or sub elemental dps, not just one of theese role

[@zinxoid]

"I hope this is something that doesn't happen again" just wait for Kokomi release... I agree with everything said in the vid

[@TheShadowflarer]

I really hope Kokomi gets a shadow buff or something, but if not, man, i will have to get my popcorn lol

[@shrimppy649]

So true, if kokomi doesn't scale better with Hp and healing bonus then she is gonna be a really unpopular banner, she doesn't even have a new 4 star on her banner so the incentive to get her is only for people who like her animations (yeah I'm gonna whale-)

[@naf3773]

true, mihoyo definitely screwed up by making kokomi e scale with atk

[@aimanhaqimi5698]

mihoyo a chinese company hating on japanese-themed characters, and making their own liyue characters with lazy game design(ganyu) with the damage way too high lol how suprising

[@juanhurtado7244]

more healing for negative crit rate what a bad joke...

[@SuzushinaYurikos]

"I just hope at the very least, this is something that doesn't happen again." Kokomi is shaping up to be even worse than Yoimiya if they don't buff her last minute. The term "Kokopium" has been floating around lately. I'm going to be wary of any patches with this amount of new character releases at once because Mihoyo has clearly shown that they are unable to balance them all properly without neglecting some (Yoimiya, Kokomi) in favor of others (Ayaka, Baal).

[@ottokallen]

Actually while this might simply be my opinion and in no way am I trying to defend Mihoyo I don't think it has to do with them being unable to balance characters in favor of other characters, honestly I think the issue is that mihoyo is starting to realize almost every character is built the same way (atk% crit rate, crit dmg) and relys on the same elemental reactions of vaporize and melt which after a while can start to get boring another example is how bennett is used in basically every team comp due to his atk buff (and now they are making sara) I think what Mihoyo is trying to do is not poor balancing but they are trying to make more unique characters which is resulting in them being "weaker" because they don't live up to meta for example Yoimiya is really good with overload but overload is a niche elemental reaction and doesnt make her do more damage persay unlike vaporize and melt I do like what Mihoyo is trying to do infact I think its super cool that Kokomi has -100% crit but I hope mihoyo can realize that the player base is still going to want strong characters so if they are going to release characters that are niche they are going to need to make them stronger so that they preform on the same level as meta or more "meta serving" characters

[@manoelafvb]

@@ottokallen thank you for being one of the few sane people in this comment section and actually bringing facts to this table.

[@paolocarreon8329]

@@ottokallen I agree, introducing something new and unique is indeed a brave move by Mihoyo, I just feel like players aren't ready yet to adapt to these new playstyles and mostly cater to those who wants to experiment with different characters. In my opinion, Mihoyo will continue to add more in game mechanics that can potentially put characters like Kokomi in a more desired spot. Examples or ideas could be a co-op like spiral abyss because even in normal co-op situations like Azdaha, healers like Kokomi are almost essential. Anyway I am still excited with these new characters!

[@nuvaries7042]

@@ottokallen you're missing something very important in your long essay. Mihoyo constantly releasing crit weapon also giving their new character crit ascension. Mihoyo can change meta if they want. But they are the one destroy the game for short term benefit. They introduce some character which literally make some game mechanics useless.

[@ottokallen]

@@nuvaries7042 I didnt mention changing the meta meta is called meta for a reason but them releasing new niche characters hurt no one as long as those characters still complete content its not about making a new meta or changing it its just about making the game more fun so people dont need to rely on meta to beat the game

[@EndMii619]

So basically fix her targeting, make her ult constantly apply pyro instead of just every 4 seconds, and have her basics always proc

[@nDmykART]

Shiminawa doesnt even feel like her set cause of the energy decrease disallowing her from being off field support, HECK Heart of Depth helps her more than that set. they basically just wanted to buff Tartaglia without actually modifying him, mihoyo seriously messed up her kit and her clunkyness makes her less fun than she could have been. im not even gonna talk about how poorly done certain sections of her story quest was, Good idea bad execution. pretty much had to skip not because meta cause she was clunky and irritated me more instead of having fun with her kit. lets hope they revise her in 2.2 even though i didnt pull for her, cause its just sad to see a character that had so much potential fail so hard. Justice for Yoimiya.

[@dontthrow6064]

it was very awkward when ayaka said she has NO friends when yoimiya is so friendly, not even mentioning thoma

[@noakinn]

Shinenawa’s is best in slot.

[@mafuyu2470]

@Bonked_Yordle Actually the theorycrafting community already established that 2 pc Crimson Witch 2 pc ATK% is generally better than 4 pc Shimenawa because it's better to Burst -> Skill with off field dmg dealer instead of Skill -> Burst even if the latter is the one encouraged by her kit and even making a whole artifact set for that, though there would be some exceptions and it's probably just better to use the set with better stats. It was just another poor design from the dev.

[@transient_moonlight]

I dislike Shimenawa's, but with how underwhelming her Q is, it works well on her. That said, this is a flaw, not a perk.

[@aperson6562]

@Bonk ??? what are you even saying? You say its better but only with you, people have done the calculations with certain variables constant to evaluate which is better with the same stats, its basic knowledge that you always use the best artifacts you have over certain set bonuses. You clearly dont understand how to conduct a fair experiment

[@Beebee-qe3qu]

Great video, it was interesting to see you showcase her abilities especially in comparison to other characters with similar purposes ! And yes the lack of depth in her gameplay is the reason why I totally skipped her for the banner weapon ; I don't even think she needs damages buff at this point but a total rework of her skills.

[@Kevin-qh1ve]

I really enjoy your design analyses man, especially the visual design analysis. Keep it going!

[@bruhmoment2electricboogalo951]

would have been nice, if they added the kindling arrows to her skill, it would make her a little more unique and also fun (even if dmg wise, it woulndt make much of a difference i think)

[@jamesneuman7083]

All they needed to do for me was have her charged and infused shots to have explosive damage like how klees basic attacks are different from Yanfe

[@KevinMurai]

Thanks for that last section about her visual design details. I learned a lot from those small tidbits about her design.

[@soshowme9405]

thank you for speaking out & examining her underperforming kit :)

[@VidGaMeR777]

I'm still dedicated to making her the best she can be, I see a lot of outrage about her kit and it's justified but I always enjoy making bad characters still look good in anything I play. I had the same mindset as I did when I first saw Ganyu at the end of the 1.0 story "I really like how this character looks and I'm going to use them no matter what" granted Ganyu is op so that was easy but even after getting Yoimiya i slapped together a team (actually the team you showed here) but my Fischl was not built at all and Beidou barely and still managed to get the same record for my spiral abyss of 34/36 stars. Although I'm raising Diona now to have a more reliable shield than Beidou's ult and that extra 200 EM from my Diona being C6 to get better overload damage. I do hope she does get a buff tho, the Yoimiya mains subreddit is constantly sending emails to Mihoyo about trying to improve her but idk if it'll have the same power as the ones that happened for Zhongli unfortunately.

[@garb8933]

honestly i feel like if her burst aoe was bigger and he internal cooldown for reactions was reduced almost all her problems could be fixed. i use her with beidou kazuha and xingqiu and shes honestly still really good despite her problems i feel like ppl set their expectations way toooo high. ofc its good to criticise but i dont think yoimiya is as bad as everyone says😳 kokomi on another hand..

[@glowtz]

Yoimiya's kit offers a good and interesting concept, her skill coming from her bow stance aa which is the first for archers and her burst providing off field support during her skill cooldown but Mihoyo misses so many steps in creating her kit, it's such a shame.

[@kennytruong4351]

I would love to see Yoimiya get some *minor fixes* For example, increase resistent to interruption while her elemental skill is active. Because I really like her character and playstyle, I actually want her to be more *playable* and have that uniqueness really shines through her kit. She's the icon for summer on the Inazuman islands, so she's a person people, that makes sense with her elemental burst and second passive talent.

[@machatsui766]

i just got my first 5 star, yoimiya, and i got very excited to use her, although now i start bumping into these problems. they don't bother me much, but it does take away some of the fun and makes the game a little harder. she's still super fun to play and i love her design, she's super cute and i use her as my main dps :)

[@grid8608]

Hey man as long as you're having fun that's the important thing I mean I rolled for zhongli when he was trash because I really liked him

[@machatsui766]

@@grid8608 you're right! thanks man :)

[@dylandang7365]

She doesn’t need a buff she need a rework

[@mamamamamari]

yooooo a minute ago! i love your genshin character analysis videos, they're so entertaining to me and i learn a lot

[@lemon-wf7dg]

Love the thought put into this video series ✅

[@zollen_boyyy6419]

i always love these deep anylisis video like this, nice one

[@ezzyshian]

Imagine if her ult also added like numerous homing fireworks to nearby enemies or made her ult as AoE and made so mobs near that AoE got the debuff as well. At least it will make her burst to be more useful. Also mihoyo should've reduce the ICD on Yoi's elemental reaction. It's just so frustrating knowing even Xiangling could do this better than her (and better atk scaling too).

[@juanjorge751]

Pyro ningguang with aoe on the burst :V

[@ezzyshian]

@@juanjorge751 i don't mind tbh... it's ningguang C1 burst but for Yoi, it's already available at C0. well, i wish

[@juanjorge751]

@@ezzyshian mihoyo is pretty weird nowadays, from fireworks that doesn’t explode smaller rock that can deal aoe but bigger can’t, what’s next wetless water

[@ploum4247]

This looks super interesting! As always!

[@v.emiltheii-nd.8094]

As I mentioned before...C1 Yoimiya main here. And it displeases me how the maximum charge homing arrows miss at close range sometimes.

[@v.emiltheii-nd.8094]

And at long range.

[@elizabethvein4328]

Oho, this video provides interesting take/pov while still conveying the true/real problem Good work ^^)/

[@CTGOtaku]

Love the breakdown and analysis of Yoimiya's gameplay. I initially wanted to roll for her bc of aesthetics, but something about her gameplay made me pass on it. For me, it was weird how her charged shot was similar to Ganyu's spreadshot, but then if you look at her skill, it rewards her normal attacks only and even removes the change shot lvl 2. Yoimiya's kit feels a bit like it was thrown together and not very cohesive and watching this video helped me understand that even more. Keep up the good work!

[@kingsnowman871]

I really have to agree with your points here. I loved her character and playstyle so I rolled for her, despite knowing how underwhelming everyone was saying she was. I've played a lot of gacha games so I've never thought that every 5 star in the game needs to push the meta since I'm just used to that. But when you put all these functional issues with her kit in perspective like this I can't help but agree she needs some slight tweaking.

[@kokocute123]

Thanks for being so honest and well-researched in this video! You earned a new sub in me.

[@LennyCHJ]

good video dude you just earned a sub

[@soy5977]

I feel like in trying to accomplish 2 roles, she just does neither… but her happy faces make for good co-op pictures :D

[@darkpulsdarkrai834]

It would be amazing if Yoimiya infused arrows are small AOE damage explosions considering how it’s mini fireworks exploding

[@hasretreew8675]

Nice video nick....as always

[@levisamom5069]

Having both yoimiya and raiden I can say that they both have shortcomings when taken seperately but put together they compliment each other to a T Raiden's E works when using the other characters while yoimiya's E works on her alone Yoimiya's Q only works when using any other characters while raiden's Q only works on her With the constant overload procs...I can juggle enemies in mid air and it's so fun

[@tidwardsquentacles4790]

A little mistake when comparing multipliers: Albedo's elemental burst DOES NOT scale with defense, only his E bloom damage does

[@humuhumu3069]

But he was talking about albedo's e compared to yoimiya's burst?

[@jayojyoti_roy]

He was talking about his E you blind?

[@lukaukalovic4796]

Unless you have C2

[@tidwardsquentacles4790]

@@humuhumu3069 huh my bad i assumed it was the burst since the chapter says "burst damage" now its kinda weird why you would compare it to an E skill

[@humuhumu3069]

@@tidwardsquentacles4790 he is comparing it because the mechanics are similar, and to drive home the point of how bad her burst is

[@madeby_meru]

i like her, and so far ive enjoyed playing with her. but the more i use her the more i realize all her flaws and the amount of effort i have to put into working around them. I seriously hope they buff her because she could be a great dps

[@CaptainMeleon]

yoimiya is by far my favorite DPS in the game, cause i really like how bow's auto attack feels, but I agree with your points and I really liked the video! your content is amazing, keep up the good work!

[@Zahri8Alang]

I'm waiting for that theory video ~no pressure, I just wanna hear some of your predictions either based on the game or even the manhua/manga

[@vengeance1]

An Amber by another other name, is still an Amber. Sure this one is five star, and the moves look flashy, but that doesn't fix the issues with bow users. Only reasons why Childe and Ganyu are good is because one switches to melee form, and the other has one of the most powerful charge attacks in the game.

[@ryanchen290]

Bow users, with the exception of a few, are not meant to be main dps. They are primarily sub-dps or support. And when you put the bow users in those roles, their kits suddenly seem a lot more viable.

[@MilanNikolic96]

@@ryanchen290 tell that to mihoyo xD

[@Vekcrazah]

i'm a childe main, but i'm more inclined to use yoimiya as a dps lmao.. your argument with child is wrong. it's not because he's a melee, but because his elemental application is excellent for being an enabler. In terms of damage, even if Childe is an AoE, Yoimiya's output is so drastic that she can prolly clear a horde faster than an aoe childe can. Yoimiya, by no means, is an amber. Sure, she seems less synergistic with characters, but her single target damage is still VERY viable. besides, Childe also had a criticism of his own too: his insane cd workaround. and like that problem, people just got used to it. Yoimiya's easy to get used to. Just don't expect her to deal the same group damage as someone like Ganyu or Hu Tao lol

[@vonakakkola]

she has nothing in common with Amber, Amber is more similar to Ganyu, well, to make Ganyu miHoyo just copied and improved Amber's kit

[@IceKnight678]

@@vonakakkola Ganyu is the cryo Amber with numbers on steroids

[@richarddakazo2878]

Maybe Yoimiya's true purpose is for fighting bosses. Seems like she's designed to fight single enemies at a time, like the opposite of Crowd Control. I know it doesn't answer for all the problems with her kit, but I'm thinking she's just not designed for Spiral Abyss and instead you're supposed to use her for large, single targets like Boreas (the only weekly boss immune to Ganyu and Venti). Her Sub-DPS potential also probably shines a little better in Co-Op.

[@lauryw]

you put my thoughts in a video tbh! her Design is one of the most beautiful and detailed ones in the game, however, her gameplay does feel a bit weak, i couldnt really put my finger around it until i watched ur video and now it makes sense why (i dont even haver her actually, but my friend does and i play on her account sometimes)

[@harryvpn1462]

Since they made her be such a single target focus character, they should have made her damage absurdly high so she'd fit the role of a boss/single target killer

[@mikofanboy9711]

Use her with Yunjin ;)

[@Nana-mw2df]

I like her design so much ever since mhy released her picture. I also have fun playing her to catch fowls or bully the hilichurls from afar, but sometimes i feel so sad why can't she be that shining character everyone's proud of like other limited characters. Sure she's good to beat the boss but something is lacking and i feel sad about that. Not forget to mention that only me and 1 friend of mine (was accidentally) got her meanwhile the other 44 people on my friend list is like avoiding her banner sm :(

[@georgia9122]

i love yoimiya for her character design, voice and personality but i just can't ignore her gameplay issues. after using her for a while it's painfully obvious how much weaker she is than other limited 5* characters. like you mentioned, using her feels like a drop in dps despite putting much higher investment into her build than my other 5*. i hope mihoyo tweaks her kit to add aoe at least

[@Abebil3]

Thank you for making the character design lore for Yoimiya.

[@LoisyAbigail]

You make some of the best points man. I love Yoimiya a ton, but I also recognize that her kit's in need of fixing. Especially her ultimate.

[@muddassirismail]

This video showed me that underrated characters who may not have a prominent role gameplay or meta wise can be improved significantly when mihoyo introduces new enemies and new mechanics. This video came out almost 5 months ago. I too, got Yoimiya by accident and thought she was subpar when she was introduced, but given the way new charachters and enemies are so different then before, Yoimiya has become one of my most used Dps characters. Specters, corrosion wolfs, Yunjin Normal attack buffs and upcoming artifacts that speed up Normal attacks have and will make Yoi's role more prominent as a damage dealer. In short, When it comes to genshin, i think characters meta role can be improved over time so players should not judge these characters too soon.

[@ezzoticbutters7815]

Honestly, if they added more fireworks sound effects to her kit, I'd be completely sold. Maybe a buff to her skill atk speed would be nice too tho ~

[@transient_moonlight]

Yeah, and flashier visuals too.

[@rlcrs]

these character analyses are just **chef's kiss**

[@phoenixoneblack3897]

Well said!

[@AirLancer]

Before Yoimiya, they need to rework the real best girl: Xinyan.

[@restyignacio5871]

So does Qiqi and Keqing

[@user-ku6mw1hf9w]

They will never get a buff lol,the cn community isn't complaining

[@sarissena5424]

I love Yoimiya. I pulled for her, got her and a bow to 90 the same day, and intend to keep using her for a very, very, long time. I don't mind that she's on the weaker side of main DPS, and I think that it's better for the health of the game if every new character isn't just a strict upgrade from the last. That said, some of the issues with her kit feel like mihoyo honestly forgot about her. The burst not skipping ICD is such an obvious thing that surely must have been pointed out during testing, and which would have been a simple fix. I won't mention the fact that she's single target only - I like that characters have different niches, and, while it would make her stronger if her E did AOE damage, I don't feel like it's necessary. The thing that really bugs me about her, however, is her piss-poor range. For a bow user her range is absolutely terrible, and while I understand that every bow user has the same basic attack range, it makes her feel much more like a single-target spear user more than the ranged unit she was clearly supposed to be. Like I said, if she doesn't get a buff, I'll keep playing her, and I won't regret pulling for her, but I would appreciate it greatly if at least ONE of these issues were fixed.

[@taraboomba]

you almost made me cry because i love yoimiya as i character in the story hee design but all the things you said were right and i am not a meta slave so i will still roll for yoimia just because her looks and story

[@noodlesdoodles1795]

Yoimiya to me personally feels great, i really like the E and how fast she feels because of her animations, but goddamn her ult is annoying, besides the problems you mentioned, it auto aims but in a way I cant work around it will hit what feels like random enemies, many times hitting low health small mobs versus the big one thats clearly a priority -.- I hope she gets some sort of rework, cause she's almost there missing a lil somethin somethin you'd expect from a 5 star character. Great video tho ^u^ I've watched a couple and you explore the issues very well!

[@adam.e2154]

Red: I hope this doesn't happen again. Leaked Kokomi: yeah... right...

[@dream_y1000]

her character teaser was good

[@elmo_sus]

yeah but yoimiya is still underwhelming

[@samiral-tabatabaie164]

I genuinely LOVE the idea of Yoimiya being a character who can be a quasi-DPS/Sub-DPS/Support Hybrid. But I agree that her kit hasn’t been given much thought at all. Not to mention her numbers being so strange. Thematically speaking too, WHY would a pyrotechnician like Yoimiya who is launching literal fireworks at her enemies with her skill and charged shots not deal AoE Damage???? And as you mentioned her Kindling Arrows are just such an afterthought, which is sad because I love them. Their low damage is just another huge disincentive. Her Burst having low damage is understandable since the Aurous Blaze is supposed to be the result you’re chasing after-but then the damage that can be triggered by the Aurous Blaze isn’t even BETTER than the initial damage! Not to mention that for a firework you’re setting off on a character whose grounded, it doesn’t explode EVERYWHERE. Where is the massive AoE of a Firework you’re setting off on the ground??? Fireworks like that just BOUNCE everywhere! That’s not mentioning the unnecessary internal cool-down. It’s like; you created SUCH an amazing concept, but how could you NOT commit to it????? Her damage increase for party members is also nothing big or worth chasing after-again why just not FULLY commit to it??? I’m not asking for another Ganyu, I’m asking for a character who can stand out on their own. And as you mentioned this exacerbated by the fact that she’s a 5*. Mihoyo needs to genuinely work on her kit and actually *fix*, because with the game they’ve made, they’ve created a character who just doesn’t fit in said game. It’s just SO confusing why they would do this to a FIVE STAR. There is no re-run likely at ALL unless they carefully consider what needs to be properly buffed and fixed before they decide to re-release her again. It’s honestly infuriating how poorly thought out this all is when other characters have incredibly good gameplay.

[@DiaborMagics]

excellent video. i feel less bad about not having her now. i like the character and bow users but in her trial i also was a bit disappointed. im also about 65 pulls into hard pity, so i should probably just wait for baal. also, the auto targeting is the bane of my existence in climbing/cooking impact.

[@furanko3789]

I would also say people didn’t pull for her because she was between Ayaka and Raiden, which are liked more in the community as a whole. This is my situation, I like yoimiya and I would have pulled for her without hesitating if she wasn’t in such spot, between an Archon and a character I have waited for since I remember, that’s also an issue. And as you said, she also has some gameplay issues as well, and she doesn’t feel as a five star at all. Hope MiHoYo buffs her in a future

[@user-op2bh7rc9z]

I’ll die on the hill that she should’ve had a Ganyu-type charge attack with firework effects.

[@molihua15]

Thats a really good video. I really hope Yoimiya receives at least some "bug" fixes, since I don't think some of those issues were meant to be. The fact that her burst, which already has 2 seconds between procs, can't trigger reaction every proc and doesn't snapshot, is a big mistake imo. I pulled for her and really love her design so I hope mihoyo won't overlook her issues. Please, if you have Yoimiya or just want to voice your opinion on her, include it in the survey and customer feedback!

[@andrecezar8016]

man i cant believe that only one youtuber actually tried to understand yoymia. wth Thank you Judite!

[@ikkisho7266]

Yoimiya main here. I have three problems with her overall, first is the fact that her arrows arent hitscan so it could lead to a LOT of AA shots missing, second is the awful targetting sytem, and third is the fact that she cannot Snapshot which is bs. At this point id prefer if they gave her a QoL change instead of a buff....

[@owlofficial765]

Let's put "BUFF YOIMIYA" on every surveys and Genshin posts. She didn't deserved all of this and some slander from meta slaves

[@SolracNexus]

Would be nice if she has an alternate elemental skill (hold E) where she shoots exploding kindling/homing arrows, but the trade-off is that the damage is the same as her normal attack

[@TerrariaMommyxox]

didn't know this stuff very cool

[@samibell888]

i love Yoimiya , shes the 1st 5 star I got in C1 by pure luck, i enjoy playing her but its difficult to ignore her issues. she really do need a buff to atleast make her look like an actual 5 star, mihoyo can make her blazing arrows explode into fireworks that deals AOE pyro damage, amp her autos elemental skill and burst a bit and fix the targeting system not only for her but for the rest of the bow users........ im not asking for a huge buff that will make her broken like the other ones ..... im just want her to shine in her thing coz thats what she deserve

[@valenroman5642]

I said this too many times now, but I think making her frockling arrows (normal attacks while in elemental skill) become homed arrows that have even the slightest AoE on hit (like Ningguang's basic attacks at C1) would solve most of her problems. Wheter miHoYo will change that or not, I really doubt it, but one can hope, right?

[@joobin814]

Why not a catalyst user then

[@violeteyes]

@@joobin814 are you suggesting that they switch her weapon type completely after her release, or that she would have been better as a catalyst from the start? either way she pretty obviously shouldn't be, I mean we already have 2 pyro catalyst main dps chars* and we just don't need another one at this point in the game. for starters her entire design and gameplay style wouldn't work for a catalyst , because she obviously would not need the infusion of her skill, so they would need to give her an entire new one, which would completely change her gameplay style and design, making her a practically unrecognisable character. *(i acknowledge that we have 3 cryo swords, but they fulfil different roles so it isn't as much of an issue)

[@joobin814]

@@violeteyes I'm saying why would you make her a bow user at that point? It would just make her a fast attacking yanfei that ends up getting dps loss from having to cancel her full attack rotation. I feel like it would just make more sense for her attacks to sort of jump to the enemies like how ayaka's charged attacks just hits the enemies so it can't miss.

[@valenroman5642]

@@joobin814 that is true, I gues that would make her just like a catalist user which is probably why they didn't implement it in the first place

[@SiniBANG]

Got her by accident at roll 14 while building pity for the upcoming Raiden Shogun build before. But she became a fun character to use.

[@emic5783]

I got her on accident half way through her banner, and shes such a fun character and i love her design! however, while building her and attempting to use her on my team, i noticed a lot of these shortcomings but wasnt able to put into words what was wrong. she was just so vulnerable during her attacks, and her single target limitation is incredibly frustrating. i do not regret getting her or building her, cause she is a genuinley cool character! but i dont plan on using her on my team anymore

[@sleepyboi2232]

there's also the slight issue where it feels like bow characters have 0 impact to their shots

[@v0rtexbeater]

Nah Mihoyo just was being consistent and made Amber 2 just as useful as the original.

[@shadowgamerz239]

Well I got her accidentally because I wanted to summon a bit but I hit the 50/50 pity and won. I am sad but happy at the same time because I wanted to to save for baal. Now i don't know what to do because she is my first 5*.

[@voophi_tom4349]

the sad thing is i pulled her and her c1 yesterday, and i leveled her today. atleast i got yoimiya and will continue to play as her :)