Why You Are Sleeping On This Weapon In Valheim

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In this Valheim video, we take a look at the Atgeir and how it is one of the strongest weapons in the game.
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@gregoryquint7653
@gregoryquint7653 3 жыл бұрын
That was the first bronze weapon I made...I forgot about it, because all you guys said , Make the mace!
@STNJ_YT
@STNJ_YT 3 жыл бұрын
Mace is definitely better imo
@psychobobsweets
@psychobobsweets 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. Everyone said mace..
@ruiferreira9759
@ruiferreira9759 3 жыл бұрын
@@STNJ_YT depends, i also use mace myself but it sucks when you have multiple enemies Your damage is spread out and you have no crowd control But with this, despite the damage spreading out, it knocks everyone away So basically they are complements Mace and shield for low number of enemies, the hallberds for multi enemies due to cc and bow for range is my full battle ready combo
@DaemonRayge
@DaemonRayge 3 жыл бұрын
Maces are good if you need to shield and parry or do 1v1. Otherwise, polearms are decent.
@freddysfuntime
@freddysfuntime 3 жыл бұрын
Mace was a must in the swamp though. Now the Atgier is a must for the plains, it seems.
@ObscuriaDragunAed
@ObscuriaDragunAed 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, ofc you'd be stunning the troll, you're hitting him straight in the nuts.
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha!
@wtfimurchin9173
@wtfimurchin9173 3 жыл бұрын
The secondary attack actually goes thru walls. if in case you are pinned down by multiple enemies like the haunted villages, stay behind a wall and spin to win :)
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 3 жыл бұрын
That's a great tip. Gives me an idea.
@flatmatte4690
@flatmatte4690 3 жыл бұрын
@@Firespark81 compare it to the Iron sledge for cheesing the crypts chambers
@shinysonny7733
@shinysonny7733 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest concern with this weapon and same goes for the spear is the elevation hitbox is a huge problem
@tkeleth2931
@tkeleth2931 3 жыл бұрын
Can confirm, I'm a hardcore member of POLEARM GANG but Fulings within attack range but slightly downhill... can be rough lol
@mwatkins0590
@mwatkins0590 3 жыл бұрын
yeah he says its the best in practically every situation but im finding that weapons which require any sort of precision have a huge disadvantage in most terrain. they require way more planning and kiting than something like the iron sledge which you can easily kite an entire army with regardless of terrain (outside of the water)
@eves9570
@eves9570 Жыл бұрын
I used to be an atgeir wielder like you, then I took a deathsquito to the knee.
@FluffyEnbyneering
@FluffyEnbyneering Жыл бұрын
I like to gamble and use the mace heavy attack for those
@Avispa37
@Avispa37 2 жыл бұрын
I've found it very useful in the tombs in the swamps. The ability to poke at enemies from a distance into newly opened rooms is very useful. As is the knockback if you get surrounded in a confined space.
@deadpoet4
@deadpoet4 3 жыл бұрын
Atgeirs are also great for deathsquitos. They have a longer reach than other melee weapons, and the spin attack can hit them no matter what direction they are coming from. I never travel across the plains without one!
@SkyDragon1997
@SkyDragon1997 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the tips those mosquitoes are annoying to hit with sword
@bryane-m6667
@bryane-m6667 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for something on these little buggers, thanks.
@Emily-8914
@Emily-8914 3 жыл бұрын
Each weapon has it's own amount of stagger that it deal on an attack. The Atgiers secondary and hammers get a bonus multiplier to their stagger. An enemy has a certain threshold of their maximum health at which if the total 'stagger' value reaches, they get staggered. The Atgeirs are so great at staggering because of this multiplier they have on the secondary attack, which is a 6x bonus.
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 3 жыл бұрын
Where did you get this info? I need to research this topic.
@Emily-8914
@Emily-8914 3 жыл бұрын
Hope that helps!
@RationalOrc
@RationalOrc 3 жыл бұрын
the atgeir is a great co-op weapon if you have extra materials for it. Get you buddy to tank enemies with sword and board while you spin to win safely behind him. Me and my boys have cleaned out many a crypt with that approach
@danpitzer765
@danpitzer765 3 жыл бұрын
Atgeir is the term from the sagas for what was also called a 'warspear', which was basically a spear with such a huge head that we'd call it a pole-axe. (The difference between a pole-axe and halberd, btw, is that the halberd has a spearhead at the end of the haft, allowing you to make thrusting attacks with the butt of it to impale.)
@NordicEagleVids
@NordicEagleVids 3 жыл бұрын
I think a halberd would be a more comparable weapon in terms of usage since they tend to have alot of strike and thrust focus (though the atgeir/warspear/hewing spear lack the spike on the opposit end of the axehead that halberds have) poleaxes are different weapons altogeather, both in construction and usage
@jjkthebest
@jjkthebest 3 жыл бұрын
Halberds also have a hook on the end opposite to the axe head.
@Atmos41
@Atmos41 3 жыл бұрын
The stagger works this way: every mob has a stagger limit, which represents an amount of damage they can take. If they take more, they are staggered. The atgeir staggers very easily because the middle mouse attack stagger damage is multiplied by 6 (for some reason). Quick edit note: you need to have a very good stamina management if you're gonna use this weapon as primary weapon before lategame. Otherwise, having shield+sword or shield+mace is gonna be way safer.
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 3 жыл бұрын
Yes to the stamina management statement. Where is everyone getting this data on how stagger works?
@Atmos41
@Atmos41 3 жыл бұрын
@@Firespark81 from the wiki! and also quite a lot of testing from my side :)
@Snaake42
@Snaake42 Жыл бұрын
The bronze atgeir uses a lot less stamina than the blackmetal one, same as with all weapons. I use it against trolls a lot, and also wolves, but after staggering them, I don't immediately empty my stamina spamming normal attacks. Instead I regain stamina while the enemies are staggered, then just stagger them again immediately after the previous stagger ends. Rinse and repeat. One tier-appropriate stamina food (+2 health foods) and a rested bonus is plenty for that.
@Setzer
@Setzer 3 жыл бұрын
I like the Atgeir, but I think that the shield and sword are better after using the extensively. Parry is so strong in the game and it's the safest way to not take damage. In any 1v1 the sword and shield will be safer and chew through the mob with less stamina used faster. In combats where you have large groups of enemies the Atgeir secondary attack seems nice, but you have to get them to group perfectly and a lot of times you eat an attack while doing it. My technique with the sword and shield is to either wait for a parry and counter attack or start swinging a bit early so that my third hit lands on the enemy(ies) which will result in a stagger leaving them free to finish off with another combo if not a single swipe. The Atgeir is definitely viable, but I think there's not much to be gained by switching to it from sword and board. The animation also makes it awkward to fight on uneven ground. At the same Atgeir and Mace were my go tos for the swamps. The mace does bonus damage against skeles and blobs sure, but the Atgeir makes it easy to attack blobs and leeches without getting close enough to be poisoned provided that you move back a bit after each strike in the former case and use the spin attack to knockback 4-5 leeches at a time, safely killing them all with a second one.
@Tyndaal604
@Tyndaal604 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like axes are slept on too. Their knock back damage usually stuns things on the second hit, and the 3rd hit always does more damage than the other two for a combo bonus!
@Snaake42
@Snaake42 Жыл бұрын
Especially the bronze axe might be the only bronze weapon you actually need (an upgraded wood club is fine against blobs, and can even be used for Bonemass, although an iron mace certainly makes that fight and stone golems easier)... If it wasn't for the bronze atgeir being so good as well. But the axe is definitely the first priority, for fine wood and core wood, and it's also a perfectly good weapon for the swamp. For blackmetal too, IMO axe first, then atgeir, then whatever else you need.
@Tyndaal604
@Tyndaal604 Жыл бұрын
@@Snaake42 I usually go for for the axes first 100%, I always go buckler rather than shield, then it’s essential tools then the armours without movement penalties, axes are usually the most levelled skill you’ll have unless you don’t do any building or you only pick up branches. Very underrated weapon skill!
@syrenet
@syrenet Жыл бұрын
oh hey, it's the barley harvesting tool.
@johnlin3959
@johnlin3959 3 жыл бұрын
Here's a point that I haven't heard any other content creator make: Multi-hit damage penalties. Normally (say with a sword or an axe) when you hit multiple targets, it does less damage per target. Usually in the ballpark of 60% of your normal damage. This is also true of the Atgeir's primary thrust attack, if you hit multiple targets, you will do less damage per target. However, the secondary attack of the Atgeir is an "AoE" attack (like a troll's attack, or the sledge's primary) and does not suffer from damage drop off from hitting multiple targets. You can test this out for yourself easily enough by creating some wooden walls or palisades to hit. Or you can also watch the part of the video where FireSpark fights multiple Fulings. For consistency, I pick this example where he hits the fuling that is using Torch+Shield. 5:28 hits 3 fulings. Torch+Shield fuling takes 55.4 5:46 hits 3 fulings. Torch+Shield fuling takes 37.9 (this is the lowest one, likely a low roll on the RNG) 6:00 hits the Torch+Shield fuling by itself and it does 54.7 damage 6:06 hits 3 fulings. Torch+Shield fuling takes 45.1 6:09 hits the Torch+Shield fuling by itself and it does 51.3 damage Obviously, there's some RNG going on here and you can test this yourself against your own dummy targets.
@viktorhammering6102
@viktorhammering6102 2 жыл бұрын
It also (going exclusively from numbers) parries a lot better than the Iron Buckler which is the best item we got right now that is made for parrying. 75 “parry force” compared to 110. And with parry force I mean Block Force times the Parry Bonus. Black metal shield ends up in the middle with 90.
@Skirk84
@Skirk84 2 жыл бұрын
I only use the Atgeir or the knife. I don't see a need for anything else. The fact that when you go to build your very first bronze weapon (real weapon) it says the atgeir is a true warriors weapon. I thought ok so obviously this one is the best... and it is.
@flyingthor2650
@flyingthor2650 2 жыл бұрын
Until you have to fight bonemass. good luck with atgeir and knife.
@nutnate1
@nutnate1 3 жыл бұрын
You should show what weapons are like in realistic situations, like without invincibility and stuff. Defense is a massive part of combat, so this isn’t representative of what is actually like to use
@TheJamesLykins
@TheJamesLykins 2 жыл бұрын
It can parry as well
@tmy8711
@tmy8711 Жыл бұрын
Right. "This weapon is so good I didn't bother to turn off immortality..." -this utuber, apparently
@cmac6136
@cmac6136 Жыл бұрын
He wanted to show what the person came do without dying over and over. I'm fine with it
@Goshu1
@Goshu1 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget how crazy OP the battle axe is with the secondary attack. Its like the reversed atgeir
@Siyximus
@Siyximus 3 жыл бұрын
I die when using a Atgier. To often this weapon will not hit all mobs clearly in range, we saw this a few times in the video. Let alone if archers are around. They are awesomely powerful and fun to play with. Great video :)
@mitrimind1027
@mitrimind1027 3 жыл бұрын
That's mostly due to slopes being terrible for combat.
@brasil221
@brasil221 3 жыл бұрын
You did miss its biggest weakness which is terrain. The iron sledge can hit up hills and around corners much better. The atgeir is still better in an open field, but it's not without huge drawback considerations.
@aatori04
@aatori04 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, i can't hit enemies using atgeir when they are either just a bit higher or lower than me. I still love it though because of the aoe.. the pierce damage is really high too
@barefootbaymax9687
@barefootbaymax9687 3 жыл бұрын
I get it, I even chose it as my first weapon before switching to sword. I'm not sleeping on it, it's not my play style and I like sword and board. That said I always have one around my barley farm
@magicalelvishman
@magicalelvishman 3 жыл бұрын
haha -- been using the atgeir all game, so I was bummed when you declared shields the begin and end of OP. Completed the game no portals using Atgeir + Bow loadout -- just as you said, emphasizing spacing, dodge rolling, and stam foods. The atgeir's primary attack is also good to kill charging Death Skeeters.
@gewitterhund3164
@gewitterhund3164 2 жыл бұрын
ICYDK: A staggered creature receives double damage, so to get a stab on an enemy after you staggered them with the atgeir is a vital thing worth to be practiced.
@ethansmith8813
@ethansmith8813 9 ай бұрын
Good against wolves in mountains. Good against greydwarfs. Good against fulings as crowd control
@deeriojimwat5565
@deeriojimwat5565 3 жыл бұрын
Spinning to winning is great fun against skeleton surprises
@maidenless1156
@maidenless1156 3 жыл бұрын
I love skeleton surprise The moving forest event is my favorite just because I like collecting seeds
@suimeingwong2043
@suimeingwong2043 3 жыл бұрын
This goes to show the iron sledge needs more love considering how much harder it is to make. You have to pay for the flesh and find the iron. The black metal Atgeir needs a bit of flax and the Fulings are always willing to donate the metal.
@blueclaws9894
@blueclaws9894 3 жыл бұрын
I'm only playing solo, but I have been using the Atgeir for a while and love it! It's great for big enemies as the 3 hit combo does big damage at mid range. Great against groups IF you're careful. No shield is always a risk, but using it pushes you to get better at timing and stam management. Have you done a video of the one 2h axe in the game? It's slow, but great for AoE.
@choochoo405
@choochoo405 3 жыл бұрын
its great for running in on plains villages and harvesting villages in one move and stealing the crops
@Wanderinpaladin
@Wanderinpaladin 3 жыл бұрын
I've been using this since I saw someone say to use it to harvest grain and flax fast a while back. I also use it in my wolf/boar pits. Also when it's down to one adult and piglet/pups you can single target the adults.
@mike5177
@mike5177 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite weapon. Amazing AOE knock back and does some good piercing damage.
@circleofowls
@circleofowls 3 жыл бұрын
I love all the detailed videos you've been doing on damage, stamina and specific weapons. An ultimate damage vs. stamina video would be fantastic.
@jackoh3arts487
@jackoh3arts487 3 жыл бұрын
The atgeir Combos beutifully with the Draugr fang as well. Just about nothing can even reach me, and by the time they do I finish with the combo. Simply gorgeous!
@TreeCamper
@TreeCamper 3 жыл бұрын
Shields. That's why people don't use Atgeir. If there was an enemy that shields didn't help with, they might stand a chance.
@michaelmacmanus
@michaelmacmanus 3 жыл бұрын
Shields are so worthless after you've hit end game food. The s on the dodge are just too ridiculous to seriously choose blocking over rolling, taking up a much more needed inventory slot.
@aranha1504
@aranha1504 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmacmanus are you for real? Maybe you just forgot about parrying and dealing 2x damage for the next 3-4 attacks, your clear speed gets like 300% faster with a shield
@michaelmacmanus
@michaelmacmanus 3 жыл бұрын
The parry only allows the next attack increased dmg. There is nothing in this game that requires more than 2ish hits from an Apghar except multistar goblins which are easily kept at bay with it's range. Shields are for people that need to get gud.
@michaelmacmanus
@michaelmacmanus 3 жыл бұрын
@@aranha1504 imagine thinking a single object parry for one increased attack has a faster clear speed than a massive AOE 360 lol
@michaelmacmanus
@michaelmacmanus 3 жыл бұрын
@@aranha1504 you know the Apghar parries too, right?
@ChesterRico
@ChesterRico 3 жыл бұрын
@gear. My problem with the thing is, if you hadn't been in godmode, that 2 star Fuling would've killed you. I feel going up against Fulings or Lox without a shield is straight up suicide.
@Hertz2laugh
@Hertz2laugh 3 жыл бұрын
I fight them regularly with only a Drauger Fang (bow) and Troll Hide armor. They are extremely dangerous and I wouldn't want to use weapons with long, punishable animations.
@danielboyd7810
@danielboyd7810 3 жыл бұрын
Fulings and even berserker are a cake walk with the atghier. Lox I usually just use a bow because I think their stagger threshold is really high so consistent staggers are difficult
@vbgaming6203
@vbgaming6203 Жыл бұрын
I love parrying with this then striking twice before the spin attack to further stagger and then striking again Although striking after the spin is slow The spin after the strike is quick, which allows us to use 1-3 strikes and then spin straight away afterwards
@paulmoulton7248
@paulmoulton7248 3 жыл бұрын
It has it's uses. It is good in large numbers of melee mobs ,but ranged attacks will chew you up. It is a great tool in your tool belt, but 1h and shield is my standard and I carry the atgeir and bow as well.
@Revenant483
@Revenant483 3 жыл бұрын
WOW - I will have to rethink my weapon choices. I did not realize how OP that is!
@Alberos
@Alberos 3 жыл бұрын
I used it since day 1. Halberd is one of the OP weapon of medieval period imo.
@Space_Marine2
@Space_Marine2 Жыл бұрын
By the way the Rested buff has a secret of +50% xp
@kokorochacarero8003
@kokorochacarero8003 3 жыл бұрын
The spinning attack's knockback is so useful, specially when fighting enemies you are not properly geared to deal with otherwise Also you can perpetually stunlock trolls with it
@aregesafechier
@aregesafechier Жыл бұрын
i don't know if it got nerfed since but i've been playing mostly since mistlands and i never actually liked it that much. i've found parries to be way more broken than this weapon as it seems to negate all damage you would have normally received even if it's a non staggering creature. I'm probably biased due to my experience in souls game parrying things though xD
@aregesafechier
@aregesafechier Жыл бұрын
and maybe my friend's just bad with it but i usually survive much, much more easily than she does while using this weapon
@Snaake42
@Snaake42 Жыл бұрын
You can parry just fine with atgeirs/polearms. I've been parrying seekers with the black metal one (with padded armor and mix of plains/mistlands food). In the plains I also used it to kill lox since they're not resistant to pierce, it parry-staggers them, and the reach helps too. Fulings are even easier and the secondary helps if a group of them is starting to surround you.
@aregesafechier
@aregesafechier Жыл бұрын
@@Snaake42 ohh, i'll have to give it a try then!
@Snaake42
@Snaake42 Жыл бұрын
@@aregesafechier also FYI in general that parrying even with shields doesn't automatically negate all damage in Valheim, it just basically gives you extra armor, namely the weapon/shield's block armor multiplied by its parry multiplier, which then reduces the damage. Then if you successfully parry with either a weapon or shield (have enough stamina for the parry, don't die from any damage that gets through, and don't get staggered), the enemy is automatically staggered from the parry (they can get staggered from damage received too, and especially mace/polearm secondaries deal extra stagger damage). If you time the parry wrong or just hold block in advance, you only get the block armor without the parry multiplier. That's usually only worth it with tower shields.
@aregesafechier
@aregesafechier Жыл бұрын
@@Snaake42 that confirm what i just recently noticed, i was using the padded and carapace armor but recently i've been trying with the fenrir armor set and noticed that i take some damage while parrying. Thanks for confirming why! yeah holding block is, for me, only when i'm picking up the tempo of the fight, especially in groups. No parry crit is better than no damage :P
@EGraf
@EGraf 3 жыл бұрын
your tests might be ok in theory, but in practice they are quite flawed. For example, when you attacked the troll, you did it with a bronze atgeir ... but with the stamina of the end game. Try to do the same with cooked meat, neck tail and (if you are lucky) carrot soup (and without god mode, and in the middle of a forest with trees, stones, etc)... you will not have the stamina to do it. All the "high stamina" food you mention (fish wraps, lox, bread...) are Plains food. PS: and for the end game there are much better weapons too, with the Draugr Fang I can kill a troll from miles away with just 3 wooden arrows and a fraction of the stamna
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 3 жыл бұрын
It was just an example m8. Of course you would not go at it like that early game. You would stagger him poke once and walk away to regen stamina the repeat.
@EGraf
@EGraf 3 жыл бұрын
​ @FireSpark81 that's the thing, you are using examples that are not natural gameplay (for instance, if you don't want to reflect early game, then why use a bronze weapon?) and then extracting general conclusions from them. I doubt you would arrive to the same conclusions if your examples reflected a normal gameplay setup.
@andrejpollak3235
@andrejpollak3235 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is it works basically only on evenly leveled ground
@victorisaksson5061
@victorisaksson5061 3 жыл бұрын
yea good luck hitting leeches .. i wish it would let you aim the direction with the crosshair
@gerrit6769
@gerrit6769 3 жыл бұрын
180h into the game and atgeir was my main weapon most of the time. Actually even the primary attack staggers most of the time. Which makes it easy to complete the atgeir-combo. 1on1 is mostly just a tripple-mouse-click, and your enemy is dead. If not, dodge back, wait a few seconds until the stagger-cooldown is off and add a second tripple-combo.
@verzeihturncoat27
@verzeihturncoat27 3 жыл бұрын
The Atgeir has one additional use. the aoe can defend your cart while pulling it except right behind the cart. Long road defence without leaving your cart behind.
@jasonwoods5934
@jasonwoods5934 3 жыл бұрын
ive been using a max level blackmetal atgeir for a good bit, absolutely love it. its great for SHTF moments
@lemmino4919
@lemmino4919 3 жыл бұрын
from my testing some of the stuff you stated is incorrect. you CAN in fact stun fuling berserkers. i had very inconsistent results while using a lvl 1 black metal atgeir (~lvl50 polearms). once i upgraded to lvl 4 tho the stuns were much more consistent. its a different story on lvl 2 or 3 berserker tho, no chance on those. leds me to believe that you have to do a certain percentage of dmg to their health so that they can get knocked and that stuff like lox, high lvl berserker and stone golems have to much hp for you to reach that percentage. also you get the 2x dmg bonus every time that sth gets knocked back. there seems to be no limit on enemies that can be hit with the same attack (watched some old videos and i was hitting 15+ fulings at the same time, knocking all of them)
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 3 жыл бұрын
That chart was not you can't stun them it was they always stun every time at level one with iron pole arm. Sorry for the confusion.
@stevelikesgummybears1662
@stevelikesgummybears1662 3 жыл бұрын
I usually use sword and shield. But have it on 3 in case I need to make some space to escape if I get stuck in a swarm.
@zzaori
@zzaori 3 жыл бұрын
Atgeir it was a happy surprise, and it became my favorite weapon. I don't really like shields, so two-handed weapons ^^ up
@a_tremereandsomeblood_just3642
@a_tremereandsomeblood_just3642 3 жыл бұрын
apparently this is a great weapon. as i read that Lox's are vulnerable against piercing damage i decidet to level my spear skill and use the Wolftooth atm. And it works great, much better than the porcupine against Lox. I definetly gonna level the Atgeir now as well. sry for my english^^
@alnajid123
@alnajid123 3 жыл бұрын
Not convinced. Turn off God mode, go into actual combat against fulings with spears, clubs, knives, torches, etc. and maybe this would have been a better video.
@Silmarilos
@Silmarilos 3 жыл бұрын
I have to say that as much flack as the Iron Sledge gets, it is hands down the best way to kill Leeches in the swamp!
@nqkoisinikoi5898
@nqkoisinikoi5898 3 жыл бұрын
The atgeir 3-shots even the strongest trolls. And my skill is just 60-ish. Just 1 full combo = dead. Have done 600+ hits on trolls.
@bennygummisko
@bennygummisko Жыл бұрын
all the weapons and armor in the game have their niches, except maybe claws, two handed axe, two handed sword, and Bronze armor, since troll armor is way better than bronze. Btw you cant really make tests with a bronze atgir with endgame foods and probably endgame skills. Also you could easily die taking hits from a 2 star fulling without blocking. Even with a shield it can get you killed, lowering all your skills with 5%, which will take a very long time to recover
@khaoticpaladin
@khaoticpaladin 3 жыл бұрын
I main the Atgeir and found it to be tricky to manage stamina. It is not a highly aggressive weapon and the lack of vertical attacks makes it tough on hills and whatnot. That being said, I found the best way to use it is to not spam the spin, but to dodge roll through attacks (I-frames help massively) and fight defensively. If things are not ranged then they have to come to you making the range of the weapon shine. Spin is amazing when surrounded but I feel this weapon is even better when you use the range and make use of spacing.
@DtWolfwood
@DtWolfwood 3 жыл бұрын
Lol been using this since I realize it's the spear I was looking for. Why the spear is a short range weapon is beyond me.
@riangonzaga2420
@riangonzaga2420 3 жыл бұрын
O think the devs see the Spears as a budget option, they always cost way less to make and upgrade than everything else and you can throw them If they had similar reach to the atgeirs they would definitely be OP
@curtisreimer4592
@curtisreimer4592 2 жыл бұрын
ive done a playthrough with nothing but great axes and atgeir as long as u have those to weapons numbers and large foes doesnt matter i rarely died to anything other then fall damage when building, and the only disadvantage to atgeir is hills it is very hard to use on the mountains. Twohanders are the best weapons for mob control in the plains, blackforest, and swamp. twohanders are also the second best large mob killing weapons in the game other then daggers and sneak. If twohanders arent youre thing thats fine but if you run only one hand weapons be sure to have both a tower shield and a round shield tower porcupine for the mountains and frostner for everywhere other then mountains. every weapon has its advantages and disadvantages. although nothing beats iron sledge. I have 243 hours in valheim this guy posting the video may have more . every weapon type is viable, even fists if you are meming. frostner is not the best weapon in the game it is balanced every weapon type, but (iron sledge) are very balanced but are proficient at different things. Only use twohanders if u can parry however and run only bonemass buff. I never ran stamina meads and did just fine although in solo I would highly recommend them as i was making my playthrough as hard as possible with my preferred weapons.
@jameswhite8697
@jameswhite8697 2 жыл бұрын
All of these "Frostner is better" comments miss the plot; the atgeir is better when you need PIERCE damage (Stone Golem, Lox) and/or are in a wide-open area fighting large numbers (fulings/wolves). The idea is, I think, to become proficient with ALL of the weapons in the right environments. I just started with the atgeir when Moder murdered me because I couldn't reach her with my silver sword. Got me thinking about reach... Go fight a Stone Golem with an atgeir - suddenly it all adds up.
@JondarKorric
@JondarKorric 2 жыл бұрын
Golems are resistant to Piercing damage. they're weak to Pickaxe damage and Bludgeoning damage.
@jameswhite1910
@jameswhite1910 2 жыл бұрын
@@JondarKorric Maybe, but you just cannot get close easily enough with anything short-range on the type of terrain you find with the golems and even the dragons. They are big and you need the reach. Now the BLOB... he wants a taste of Frostner!
@ethanleino9926
@ethanleino9926 Жыл бұрын
I actually hunt stone golems for training with these things, since they take so many hits due to pierce resist. You can parry if you want, which I think is funny, but the point is to just land the first hit as many times as possible. I do the same thing with Abominations. I wouldn't say it's a good weapon for killing them. Lol
@jesseholmes9753
@jesseholmes9753 3 жыл бұрын
FireSpark81, technically it's a glaive not a halberd.
@bidet1515
@bidet1515 Жыл бұрын
cristal clear ; and nice tip : we can farm with it ;) ! It will earn me lot of time as in my party i'm the cook and the farmer ;)
@Wonderwall627
@Wonderwall627 3 жыл бұрын
I really wanted to like the battle axe but the slow speed was such a drain. Now I really want to like this again. Thanks!
@Saskidan
@Saskidan 2 жыл бұрын
It's too bad there isn't a magical silver spear. Would have been nice to have a burning enchantment. I use Frostner for the most part, the frost debuff has saved my life more times than I can count.
@AwkwaFalling
@AwkwaFalling 3 жыл бұрын
stamina at lower levels, you arn't going to be able to do that from eating berries, seems good late game though
@zuralani1
@zuralani1 3 жыл бұрын
"if you mistime you can take a few hits, it's fine." Well of course you can with damage immunity on. With a group that size there is a good chance of having a 1 or 2 star in it. Good luck "taking a few hits" without top armor and food.
@Dakkalistic
@Dakkalistic Жыл бұрын
A Halberd has armor-piercing spikes at the end and opposite to the blade tho 🤓
@wesleykerr2617
@wesleykerr2617 Жыл бұрын
I have not slept on them
@i_am_the_monkey_king
@i_am_the_monkey_king 3 жыл бұрын
They're gonna change that soon or maybe at Cult of the Wolf update. It's obvious that it's stats is for the Sledgehammer.
@matt10y27
@matt10y27 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest weakness to the polearm imo is that it's unable to be used with a shield. But this can be mitigated if you bring a shield and a one-handed weapon, especially a mace. Using a polearm as your secondary weapon can be really nice since you have pierce and blunt options for specific enemies. Swords kind of suck in this game since nothing is weak to them.
@matt10y27
@matt10y27 3 жыл бұрын
@@UncommonSense-wm5fd Blackmetal sword is an exception I suppose, but only because their damage output is so high that it doesn't matter that much. As a general rule of thumb, the lower tier swords aren't worth it. And the fuling example is a bad one, since fulings arent weak to any special physical damage. When considering a good weapon loadout, you need to consider all types of enemies you'll be encountering, which could very well be draugr or blobs or whatnot if you're exploring.
@magsaysay999
@magsaysay999 3 жыл бұрын
Always loved this, especially against deathsquitoes, but the issue is normally the stamina drain
@dareka9425
@dareka9425 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to a youtube video the atgeir is the first weapon, the first thing, I made the moment I smelted my first ever batch of bronze. I discarded my flint spear, not even caring that bronze spear existed.
@mattikul
@mattikul Жыл бұрын
You pronounce it Add-gayr in Old Norse
@speedy01247
@speedy01247 3 жыл бұрын
I like using this weapon. (My secondary is the axe/shield) it's good crowd control and can wipe groups.
@jimbodee4043
@jimbodee4043 3 жыл бұрын
The atgeir was the 2nd bronze weapon I made and the 1st iron weapon I made. Still need to get my black metal back to my base, but probably will make the sword 1st in that metal.
@craigslitzer4857
@craigslitzer4857 3 жыл бұрын
When I tried the bronze polearm, I liked the extra reach, but I hated the stamina usage. Overall, I just prefer sword & board. I tried to use it against the greydwarf spam, but I ended up dying more often than when I had a 1H weapon. It did help me survive melee combat with wolves, tho, so I'll give it that. Probably will never craft another polearm.
@blueclaws9894
@blueclaws9894 3 жыл бұрын
The stam drain decreases with skill. Very worthwhile to train it up and keep decent food on hand.
@Bullminator
@Bullminator 3 жыл бұрын
Polearms are great for farming bread :P
@telemnarnumenorean8557
@telemnarnumenorean8557 3 жыл бұрын
exactly, finding this out was gamechanger
@joshshire
@joshshire 3 жыл бұрын
Can't use atgier with shield. Also if you parry with frostner or porcupine you can one shot 1* Goblins
@rofltehcat
@rofltehcat 3 жыл бұрын
Stun threshold is %hp taken in a certain time I think. At least I think some mobs on the valheim wiki list a stun% or similar. Can't look it up right now.
@raccoonmash5705
@raccoonmash5705 3 жыл бұрын
Great video bud! Honestly didn't even know about halberds in Valheim, so big preesh! Do you have a discord server for your channel btw???
@ottowelt4378
@ottowelt4378 2 жыл бұрын
Its awesome for harvesting grains
@Skirk84
@Skirk84 2 жыл бұрын
dont you just press E???
@_jokester_8537
@_jokester_8537 2 жыл бұрын
@@Skirk84 why press E when I can press the middle mouse button thooo
@Im_Not_From_Around_Here
@Im_Not_From_Around_Here 3 жыл бұрын
The tree shadow keeps stealing the show 🤭
@bentosan
@bentosan 3 жыл бұрын
My first playthrough was with bow + spear, it worked pretty good
@martinhigueras1732
@martinhigueras1732 3 жыл бұрын
I was a Shield and 1 handed hammer user, until I create the Algeir and man! what a great weapon, huge damage, nice AoE, amazing mobility, once I got use to it I left that heavy shield at home.
@mitrimind1027
@mitrimind1027 3 жыл бұрын
Why use heavy sheild over parry sheild anyway?
@gibby9835
@gibby9835 2 жыл бұрын
i troll the trolls all the time with this waepon ahah they get knocked and cant touch you if you know how to use your stamina
@mawkeetwo
@mawkeetwo 3 жыл бұрын
The atgeir is my weapon of choice since I used it first. It's really OP
@shydre
@shydre 3 жыл бұрын
I mean...because parrying is so OP.
@lee98210
@lee98210 3 жыл бұрын
start to use atgeir in plains, even with highest padded armors, you cannot tank and melee the 5 fulings in group, sure you can keeps backtrack and bow them, but that not fun.
@prostaver2544
@prostaver2544 3 жыл бұрын
when there is only one enemy, I do a buckler atgeir switch for less stamina and knockback.
@AliAbbas-dm9si
@AliAbbas-dm9si 3 жыл бұрын
I carry it all time I only use second attack when i get attacked from every where 😅
@dizzyfaze7331
@dizzyfaze7331 3 жыл бұрын
ah yes the troll poker or money maker, this is my fav... iv taken out 2 1* trolls easy with lvl1 bronze
@dharmeshmistry342
@dharmeshmistry342 2 жыл бұрын
I love this weapon but I think think it’s ridiculous that it’s attacks can’t be aimed a little up or down, it’s such a crucial factor in fighting enemies.
@Soniquete_
@Soniquete_ 3 жыл бұрын
The secondary attack works to harvest any plant or only a few??
@DrZaius3141
@DrZaius3141 3 жыл бұрын
Barley and flax, not the others.
@Fuksias
@Fuksias 3 жыл бұрын
you can harvest small trees with it, its more effective than using a bronze axe, about equal to iron
@feloniousphil7398
@feloniousphil7398 3 жыл бұрын
Now that you made this video.....incoming Polearm nerf in 5...4....3...2...1. Thx for the info Firespark!! =P
@leonrobinson2053
@leonrobinson2053 3 жыл бұрын
I love the polearm, only got bronze but looking forward to later ones
@liatka9661
@liatka9661 3 жыл бұрын
Me too, it's a lot of fun to play with. :)
@leonrobinson2053
@leonrobinson2053 3 жыл бұрын
@@liatka9661 Alright!!! Which boss are you up to?
@liatka9661
@liatka9661 3 жыл бұрын
@@leonrobinson2053 We just finished Bonemass, it was crazy. I think I ran in circles more than I hit him lol
@leonrobinson2053
@leonrobinson2053 3 жыл бұрын
@@liatka9661 Haha, pretty standard. Make sure you go back and fight him again so you can stick his trophy on your wall as well, you earned it. You only need 4 fine wood and 1 bronze nail for the item stand.
@liatka9661
@liatka9661 3 жыл бұрын
@@leonrobinson2053 I definitely will! I'm going to try and solo him, wish me luck! lol
@justanameonyourscreen5954
@justanameonyourscreen5954 3 жыл бұрын
It's simple...my spear is up to lvl 70ish...so that's what I keep using
@squeak5242
@squeak5242 2 жыл бұрын
In this game I never really use one weapon it usually depends on the enemy like for filing camps I always started out the fight sneaking and backstabbing either the shaman or the berserkers and one shot one
@jgo5707
@jgo5707 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting that the stagger wasn't consistent with the bronze atgeir. Wonder if it's an amount of damage in a predefined amount of time as opposed to a single swings damage.
@mitrimind1027
@mitrimind1027 3 жыл бұрын
Because of randomized damage and it being based on a damage threshold to stagger.
@jrsimeon02
@jrsimeon02 2 жыл бұрын
I like using the spear for wolves/trolls... but you're saying if you can get a knockback from the secondary attack on an atgeir it's better to fight groups? I've always avoided it due to the large stamina needed.
@Kadath_Gaming
@Kadath_Gaming 3 жыл бұрын
Parrying and parry force better than bronze buckler...?
@mitmon_8538
@mitmon_8538 3 жыл бұрын
I got excited about this too. But then after some testing, I realized that all Atgeirs will have a max Parry Block damage potential of 30 damage. So any enemy that hits you for more than 30 damage will exceed this parry block max. Getting hit by something that exceeds the parry block max pretty much acts like you didn't block at all. The Parry Force is how much it knocks back enemies, I believe, so that didn't help when I tried to parry anything that hit for more than 30 damage. I was at Plains Biome level, had a whole bunch of extra black metal and decided to make a black metal atgeir, thinking it would be awesome. Ran up on a Lox and tried the parry method with the atgeir. Needless to say, it did not go well. : )
@finleyshanks6433
@finleyshanks6433 3 жыл бұрын
Filing beserker will stun with bm atgeir
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