Why You Don't Need To Train at Marathon Pace! Running Coach Sage Canaday Training Talk EP. 65

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Higher Running Coach and Hoka Athlete Sage Canaday gives any surface any distance runners from 5k to the ultramarathon and marathon training tips and advice from running form and technique to long run workouts, speed training, running vo2max workouts and lactate threshold intensity as well as long runs and diet and nutrition advice. A pro trail mountain runner athlete for over a decade, Sage is a plant based marketing content creator for his sponsors and other brands with regular VLogs, training talks and tutorials. Check out training plans at Higher Runing and get free coaching resources!
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[@donbracci2199]

Great information in this training talk. I don't mind the product plug because I understand that it is necessary. I think your content is worth watching a paid advertisement for. I like how you discuss the specific workouts you did to prepare for specific race paces. Keep up the great work.

[@JamesGoodrich7]

I personally dig the product plugs because of how entertaining you make them!

[@briansleepylee]

Thanks for the advice! No need to apologize for the advertisement- i thought it was pretty funny/entertaining. Your content is valued.

[@svenja5596]

Great training talk! And thank you for including kilometer pace conversions 👍

[@autokar123]

Thanks Sage, you’re doing such a great job! And great plug btw

[@JK-tv1px]

Great video sage thank you as always. You explain things so clearly that even an amateur (as I was) can understand but then when you are more experienced you still learn things every time too. I'm starting the bq plan in 4 weeks time. I used your 10k plan last year and after failing to break 40 (when I really should have) produced a low-36 min. Fingers crossed for my first marathon in October. Keep doing what youre doing you're amazing 👍

[@off2horizon863]

the advertisement killed me 😂 gj!

[@JoshL84]

Hey Sage, can you do a tips video for us sea level people traveling for a race at altitude like Pikes Peak or something similar? What would help acclimate faster and possible supplements to take?

[@matthewwilcox5457]

Thanks for the video!

[@zairognev4130]

Thank you, Sage. You're always speaking from the experience and explaining the details in easy ways. I started watching your videos a year ago and that's when I started running as well. I learned a lot from you and I ran my first marathon last year, finished in 3:39. I never thought I will be able to run such a long distance and during my marathon training I was always struggling and not believing that I could run the whole 26.2 but after every training session I was getting stronger and faster. Thank you for your videos and sharing your experience, I appreciate it so much. I am thinking to break a sub 3 hours marathon next time, and I know for a person like me the training going to take a lot of effort.

[@EvilSecondTwin]

Adding the pup to the add was very pleasant :).

[@liljemark1]

Good info Sage!

[@safc2k81]

Hey Sage. Could you maybe discuss how to reassess goals and what’s achievable in the next marathon following hitting a goal? Recently ran a 2:55 following your BQ plan and wondering what’s realistic to go for in my next marathon and how to go about it. Thanks! Love the content.

[@Vo2maxProductions]

Great question and congrats on the 2:55 after following our Higher Running BQ Marathon Training Plan!

[@ConBarry11]

Great video!

[@ADAMBLAZEVIC]

Thanks Sage, this confirms what I'm doing and what my coach usually advises. My goals for this year are 5k and 10k races and I'm struggling little bit with the 5k race strategy. I know it is a short race but not that short that I don't need some kind of a strategy. So I recently had a race and at the start I lost some time due to the course being so narrow and I wanted to get back that lost time in the first km and I felt like that wasn't a good idea. In the end I didn't have that extra gear what I hoped for. But o the other hand I also felt like that is a typical bad day when my HR is all over the place and no matter what I do it wouldn't change a thing.

[@mosesmihan4656]

Fanatastic, thanks for this! Love Progression runs, but will save my engere for the last 10k-ish from now on ;)

[@English.runner.en.Espana]

Pacer that’s a lovely name!! X

[@axlrosea675]

Hilarious sponsor plug😂thanks

[@mattlevine5662]

I know these vids dont pay for themselves… but daaayyyuuummm thats a long time to wait for the vid to start.

[@GustavoRodriguez-ge5ui]

“This video is brought to you thanks to Coach Sage abs” 😂

[@obsidiantain]

All good with the plugs, people gotta eat and I can see you making an effort!

[@jes28899]

Brilliant explanation

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Glad you liked it

[@rinotz7]

I applied and adapted this for the Half and when race day came it was like my body knew exactly what to do.

[@PatRiot-le7rd]

Great observations, especially concerning how it can all be a moving target, and I imagine advanced runners can follow this advice with good results. But speaking as a non-advanced runner, running slow to run fast has proven tricky. If I haven't learned to recognize how it feels to hold my target pace during the training block, I've never managed to get it right on race day with its added stress and excitement.

[@tomharris7163]

Thanks

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Thank you very much!!

[@vantage4524]

Haha fantastic plug 😂

[@hikerJohn]

I wish someone would post a waveform graph that could be superimposed onto a speed/distance/time graph that would work for people of different age/condition/experience. Something that would "look" the similar for everyone but change as you enter your age/vo2max/weight and the TYPE of running you want to do (track or trail etc). The other problem is that not everyone has the same toughness to resists injury.

[@angelarodriguez8118]

Loved the manscape ad I laughed out loud about the dad bod part! You are always entertaining😂

[@thomasholko2827]

I would really like a video on mileage for the winter season

[@codykapitzke4413]

For the next couple of weeks I’m just going to run 10 miles every day at a slow conversational pace, and I notice when I do that that I can run every day 70 miles a week, and my legs don’t feel tired, where as when I run 50 miles a week just 6 days a week with one 20 mile long run I noticed that my legs feel like garbage, and that it’s hard to recover from. I’m just going to run 10 miles everyday for the next 2 or 3 weeks just to get in the miles, and build my aerobic base. I’ll go back to doing long runs, tempo runs, and speed work though in a few weeks.

[@nberkel]

That's likely because a 20 mile long run is too high a percentage of your weekly mileage. Especially doing that method week after week. The day off becomes negligible in terms of recovery with that rotation. You may find that a short (3-5) shakeout the day after will help speed recovery as opposed to a day off 🤷‍♂️

[@RaoBlackWellizedArman]

I implemented the high milleage recepi in 2022. I didn't work. I'm training much smarter this year and I'm getting spectacular results. Do your own experimentation, but I no longer believe in this type of training.

[@iduncareanimore]

i feel like what could help with the google adsense problem is to address more beginner issues instead of marathon/ultramarathon. the amount of people at 5k/10k/21k is more than at marathon/ultra

[@ksteege]

I think I both agree and disagree with you at the same time - I do think some workouts are good to have MP miles in them but understand where you are coming from. For my self and the folks I coach I think knowing how it feels is a good thing both for the beginning when folks are too fast as well as what it may feel like at the end of a race so I do add some in especially at the end of a long run I think its helpful but typically its a range that I recommend in there. I also put one in at a some point where we vary the pace a little so do a bit at MP and then a bit faster and a bit slower without them looking at the watch and ask them to tell me what they think it is - so they can really get that feeling and know what it is without always relying on external feedback

[@madsbp]

Plugs are fine!

[@rylanrussell9595]

Sage, my LT is getting very close to my 1 mile PR. Thing is, to hit my target MP I'm going to need to improve my LT by about 10-15 seconds. Basically, for the last two years now, my top speed has not improved at all, only my ability to hold higher speeds for longer has. It's gotten to the point where my threshold is just barely under top speed. I can't increase my vollume any higher due to schedule restraints. How do you suggest I fix this? Should I focus on my mile for a while, then come back to LT and MP? Like, almost training in reverse? Some other strategy? Thanks.

[@omarbarradas306]

Hi! I’ve been running for a couple of years now and I want to run I marathon next august 27, I haven’t been training regularly the last few month and my last race was a 5k on April (sub 19), do you think I could make it with just 8 week for training?

[@PoetWithPace]

Oh the manscape ad made me chuckle! Is that allowed Sage?

[@PoetWithPace]

Joking aside, you have said in this video what I have been banging onto folks about for years that you don’t know your MP till later on into training schedule and you don’t have to train at MP. Solid advice 🏆

[@mdicello1823]

This video got a like before the promo ad was over. HAHA

[@quengmingmeow]

For a long time now, I’ve considered Marathon Pace to be the top end of “junk mile pace”. Sure, adaptations can and do occur there, but not as optimized as they would be running 1:30 slower at the top of Zone 2 or running 20-30 seconds faster up in the mid to high zone 4.

[@georgelane6350]

+1, for most people marathon pace is 'feel good pace' you feel good because it isn't challenging, you get tired doing the distance. The ratio if fatigue to stimulus is terrible.

[@BiDiNFitness]

Hey I get your logic…as a guy who ran with Hanson why don’t you like their coaching? I’m doing it now for my first marathon.

[@williamwang5587]

just FYI - Spelling error for zone 4 example -- "pace iwth"

[@obsidiantain]

💪

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thanks so much!

[@exetion]

I got my nose hair trimmer from the sales bin at the grocery store, it doesn't hit 7000 RPM though...

[@RaoBlackWellizedArman]

Was thinking if the something goes wrong and the 7000 RPM blades hit the insides of your nose....!!! 😖

[@FinnyFinnFinn96]

Super interesting. Marathon pace is such a hard thing to nail down. I ran my first marathon in March in 2:57, which was really hard work. The course had about 1300 feet of hills, and although I wanted to negative split, I ran a slight positive split. Now I’m about 2 months out from my next marathon (a net downhill race) and I’m still not exactly sure what I’m capable of. My training plan is now emphasising more speed work alongside the 60 mile weeks, and I have a few tuneup races coming up next month, but it often feels like such a guessing game!

[@Cuca138]

Good to know she doesn't have hair in her nostrils. Love Pacer, the Dog.

[@MlSTERSANDMAN]

i think you need to remove the intro video sequence. it adds nothing and i think most skip it...

[@highpitchednoise]

The paid promotions equate to more content from Sage. Like most people, he probably doesn't want to work for free.

[@lijiangjiang1984]

The quality of your content has been going downhill