Why You Should Care About Spring Rates on Your Car | The Build Sheet

We have all heard of people talking about running crazy stiff suspension and running “100k springs”, but why? Today on The Build Sheet, Gels goes into detail on spring rates, and what it all means. Also, WERE DOING ANOTHER GIVEAWAY FOR THE MONTH OF AUGUST!
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[@emanueltorres4093]

Make a video of what the spring rate and valving would be needed for whatever we are trying to do with our cars.

[@automotiveobsession7265]

Please make the video explaining valve adjustment on coilovers

[@workspilot.]

I would like to know the spring rate and damping valve setting

[@bobleeswagger7921]

What wheels are on the car in the thumbprint to this vid?

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[@FitmentIndustries]

Hey thank you very much for the kind words! This really means a lot with us trying to be informational and funny/entertaining at the same time! 🤘

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[@FitmentIndustries]

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[@danielcastaneda7801]

Yes, we need more info on spring rates and how they correlate to our dampers and vice versa.

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Imagine how fast an air suspension shirt giveaway would sellout

[@FitmentIndustries]

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swizzy yeah bags are cool but I don’t wanna buy a whole new strut because one sharp boi poked my bag

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@@spencerbarrett7125 except thats not how it works

[@Aperez78]

Super useful for someone buying coils for thier first time! Used lowering springs on my old 06 Suzuki but for my new 18' Lex 3IS, I want to get some nice coils where I only delete wheel but also have the comfortability and looks. The only thing that confused me were the spring rates confused me! Thank you!!!

[@ipo7596]

Yes pls. More suspension tutorials, infos etc. Suspension seems to be overwhelmed by drivers focusing on getting more power that they become negligent of their suspension.

[@donny_bravo]

You guys might be the Feds because I was JUST building my coils last night on 326 power & trying to determine what spring rates to get.🤨🧐

[@FitmentIndustries]

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[@Normal_Garage]

This video came out, just as I was about to install some coilovers on my car 🤔

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@@Normal_Garage Jesus drives a Static setup?

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[@drumdelorean7341]

Hahaha 😂

[@PalavGaming]

So you want a G35/G37?

[@WhoopAzzRacing]

You should do the follow up on what rates do what and I would recommend anybody who's trying to do a performance set up obviously find out what the stock rate was before trying to alter theirs I would maybe recommend having the guys from Fortune come out and tell you guys as they do a lot of actual track testing

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No ads, no over extending the length of a video, getting straight to the info and giving the important background information along the way? Yeah, this is why I watch this channel.

[@FitmentIndustries]

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[@FitmentIndustries]

Aye!! lol well thank you for the support man! It has been quite the ride so far! 🤘

[@vicdez]

I want to see BC coilovers valve their coilovers with softer compression valving to let the spring have more control on the compression stroke vs how they do it now which is same valving compression and rebound. ;)

[@reese9834]

Thank you FI. Coincidence because I been thinking about this hard recently

[@FitmentIndustries]

Glad we could help! 🙏🏼

[@C.C_Duck]

i would apreciate if you made a more in detailed video of how to determine the correct spring rate for "your" car. And keep up the good work :)

[@sr20dett1000]

Each car is different. I can give you the info on e46 and e90. But majority of coilovers have a terrible springs that cause pitch. Pitch is terrible for street driving. You need to know the front to rear frequency of the car. I don't know of any coilovers brand that will tell you that. I've looked at alot of coilovers, bc coilovers, Tc kline, ground control, bilstein, kw, isc, I can go on. This is for tha platforms I listed. All those coilovers give pitch and you need flatride for a good comfortable ride. The right front to rear spring rate it's need first then you valve the damper according to the springs. If you don't care about ride quality it doesn't matter. But I've seen to many comments on why their car ride hard. One is the springs rate then the valving. Even a car with dampers over sprung or under sprung will ride surprisingly better if correct to the right front to rear spring. Also the frequency needs to be kept below 2 hertz for a nice gt setup. Over 2 hertz if racing frequency.

[@timyang4710]

Yes, I would love to see/watch a video of you guys discussing the combination of SpringRate/Dampening/Valve for general purposes.

[@blitzenllc6032]

16k fortune autos on 18x10 sq s2k track car. Great feel ! Good to know a little more about spring rates.

[@lizadafrs2229]

I am so conflicted with what to do with my frs. I LOVE the handling and I also want to stance it. Ive been deciding for weeks on what spring rate to get! I just imagine it being stanced but losing the handling and it makes my heart go fond.

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I actually have just saw it before looking at this vid lol was looking thru the store❤️

[@oda2is982]

I would like to see a vid about adjustable dampening on coils... in case that there's not one already

[@RobertsMind]

I would like to see the part 2 of this video discussion the rest of the coilover system components.

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Good stuff always something very interesting

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Yaaaaas BC Racing coils. I am in! I had just emailed BC about some custom coils for my car too since no one makes any

[@kevin2jzzzz203]

What did you go with ? I’m trying to see if I should go with a higher spring rate or leave the standard 12 front 6 rear

[@1BAD14GT]

Yes I would like another more in-depth video about coil overs.

[@nichayes3634]

Yes, information is power

[@sebsshenanigans]

yes, need a video on how spring rates work with damping. got a set of hsd coilovers for the rexy. 8kg front, 6 rear. way to stiff even on softest damping setting. change out to 6 front and 4 rear became softer... but also became bouncy instead.... not sure if its the pre load that was wrong, or needing to go a harder damping setting to settle out the bounce. but dam.. people hate getting in my car at the moment aha

[@kevin2jzzzz203]

That’s what I’m scared of getting a higher a higher spring rate than what is suggested from factory I don’t want my car to feel all bouncy what coilovers did you get ?

[@DoubtingThomas333]

@@kevin2jzzzz203 stock spring rates are generally best. Softer rated springs will give better grip. If you are worried, stay under 8kg. I have 8kg fronts and 8.5 rears on my SUV, but I also have very fat sidewall tyres. Just been experimenting. Buying normal coils and normal springs was highway robbery, so I went with coilovers.

[@tqnation2002]

Can you make a video on wide tires and if they benefit or not?

[@imchaotix5450]

Soy Saucey engineering explained made a video on it as well, although I don’t believe they did one with the same car having different widths of tires, they did different size cars with different widths I believe

[@D.U.D.E-]

Gels, can you slow it down a little. It's great information you guys provide but here it's hard to grasp an idea fully when you read the teleprompter so quickly. Just my suggestion, idk if anyone else feels the same.

[@FitmentIndustries]

Fair enough, Thanks for the suggestion man!

[@DLimit]

Just change the speed of the video...

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❤ fantastic video!!!

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Id just like to know how y’all always make a video / do a giveaway on something I’m looking at literally the day before

[@pontiacmaniac7772]

What brand of shocks is good. I’m looking to replace my stock shocks with non adjustable performance shocks. Bilstein looks good but idk.

[@ERA71K]

Yeah would be great to do the video on valving of coilovers

[@diogocardoso5941]

Was actually just about to buy some bc coils for my 8th gen civic si soon! But now that you’re having this giveaway on the same month, kinda feels like a sign to me lol. Gonna keep saving up for the coils and buy a shirt. Imagine if I win 😭

[@FitmentIndustries]

It would be perfect timing! 😂

[@djreact7874]

This is what I been searching what about people that swap different engines ,like me what spring rate would you recommend I have an Rx7 fd was 13b now to 1jzgte weights more so my teins spring rate can’t handle the weight and bounces at high speed and corners , what spring rate would you recommend thanks 😊

[@epicraptorman]

I was looking into getting BC Coilovers for my Tiburon right now actually and deciding the Spring Rate for a daily was just confusing.

[@z34jay]

Yes please make the dampening video

[@alancamacho2386]

What would be a good spring rate for my 2018 Honda Accord

[@yaboiray4781]

If I’m trying to get that fender too lip fitment what’s the recommended spring rate?

[@OtherPeoplesMoneyy]

I’m tryna get BCs for my g37 convertible. What rate should I go with?

[@lebronthegoat445]

Can you do a vid on recommend first car and also first car do and don't

[@JevaughnGraham123]

So you're saying, if i go with a 10k spring rate the ride won't be smooth with bumps and stuff like that? even if the dampening is set to maximum softness right?

[@sangersol]

What’s the recommended spring rate for a 2.5K lbs car? I’ve got 6k at the front and 5k at the rear, but I feel the suspension compresses too much when hitting a bump and I don’t know if that’s expected.

[@FitmentIndustries]

Shoot the guys here an email sometime at [e-mail] and we can help you with this!

[@chrisnas1483]

Definitely.

[@juvnal]

I was so sad last month cus I wanted to try and get some nice konigs but ngl I wasn’t gonna spend 20 bucks on a shirt for a 12 year old. This shirt? That shit is SICK. I also love Bc

[@1234west24]

Please make another video about spring rates and valving

[@jessylauzon8740]

Hi guys, I'm a little late but I'm looking to buy bc coilovers and I have a 2000 ford mustang, and I want to drift with it, what is the best spring rate for the front? In the rear they only have 5k?

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Those shirts are sick and would love another set of BRs

[@FitmentIndustries]

Lets go!!! 🤘😂

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Another? Save it for those that need a set :p

[@FitmentIndustries]

😂

[@maxx_life]

Do i need softer spring rates in the front or the rear? I have fwd car

[@pablohernandez8427]

Wow so a buddy of mine was selling a 25k springs for coils I don’t even want to imagine that drive lol

[@fmx623]

very cool

[@mike.135i]

do kaze wheels review!!

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Tht shirt looks sick

[@livinginthelie8409]

I had 7kg rear springs on my 330cd was wondering why my rear was bottoming out all the time went with 12kg perfect now

[@arjaycrystal9123]

My question is, are swift springs worth of an upgrade?

[@JagoTFC]

100kgf/mm is the maximum for sport in my opinion.

[@1atinlove]

Brah! Whats up with your ride! Can we get updates on that FRS...as for vids...can you put to rest the myth of throttle body spacers....just kill it man...

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Don't have favorites, just really like something. 😎

[@Kwa_eazzy]

I got a 2012 accord with d2 super low coilsover it comes with 14k spring but they broke I need the stiffest swift spring I can run how do I get the right one or who knows the right one please help

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[@codymilmine45]

It would be helpful please can you go further into this

[@brandozerlee]

Anyone know what wheels are on the right of his head with the gold centercap? I need them on my e30 like yestreday

[@FitmentIndustries]

Motegi MR406!

[@jjDarell]

Wait no post card entry this time? 😂 I’m going to have to borrow $20 from my parents hahahaa Luv u guys

[@FitmentIndustries]

😂

[@mayjahjay2297]

whats a good spring rate for a daily driver with about 2-2.5 inch drop on bc racing coilovers

[@DoubtingThomas333]

Weight of the vehicle? Try 8kg front and 8.5 rear. Not too crazy. Believe me, comfort is a thing you'll appreciate. Stock vehicles running quite a bit lower than that. I prefer stock spring rates.

[@cristhianrosado6900]

A little new to all of this, so i was wondering about something. I am currently looking for new coil overs for my car And i am worried about how smooth my car will ride, i want a nice clean ride as a daily my car. So if i want to lower my car a good amount and not really slam it but still want a comfortable ride should i worry about spring rates or buy the standard?

[@MRMAN-wb1tv]

Not sure if you figured it out yet, but I suggest you get swift springs for the coilovers you choose, or get a lower spring rate than what the coilover brand recommends, which will take away the overall stiffness.

[@Rico0oG]

Please make a more in-depth video about coilovers. I'm still kinda confused in some stuff about coilovers.

[@FitmentIndustries]

Fair enough! Thank you for the feedback!

[@Rico0oG]

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[@FitmentIndustries]

Lol we appreciate the support! 😂🤘

[@brandongarcia2688]

More vids on spring rate

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Do we have to have an account created to be enter or can I just purchase a shirt w/o being signed into an account??

[@FitmentIndustries]

You can purchase a shirt to enter in without being signed in!

[@scoobsmcgee9325]

The problem I always have with progressive spring rates is my mind. When the car is softer at low load I can't quite get past understanding that it will stiffen up under high load, so I'm less likely to throw the car into a corner as aggressively. I just stick with static rates to keep my dinosaur brain happy.

[@BedjamRivera]

My Protege rear scrapes when I have any kind of weight in the back and I'm not even that low. I have a set of Godspeed Mono SS Coilovers. Any advice?

[@FitmentIndustries]

Don't have weight in the back 😅 jk but maybe raise your coils a little seems like you are too low!

[@BedjamRivera]

@@FitmentIndustries I had the quarter panels redone and the right side was made thicker then the left. That's why it was scraping. I have an inch and a half above the tires. Which is why I didn't understand why I was scraping. I took a hammer and fixed it 😂

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[@FitmentIndustries]

Big rip 😂

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Do they have maxpeedingrod coil overs on the website?

[@FitmentIndustries]

Sadly we do not!

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I'd love to see that 20 minute video

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Bet!!! 🙏🏼

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Fitment Industries the shirt has been bought with a donation ! 🤩

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One other question! Hahaha how do I know the pound per inch of my spring for my lancer?

[@FitmentIndustries]

Shoot us an email at [e-mail] or check out an Mitsubishi forum!

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What’s the name of the first rim on the left top corner been looking & can’t find it online

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Heritage Hokkaido!

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[@FitmentIndustries]

Maybe one day!

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You could have just said "how much weight to compress a spring a certain distance" in the beginning and made the video way more universal....

[@eddynsolorzano8033]

I have a Honda accord sport 2022 and I want to buy bc racing br coilovers what spring rate do you recommend front & rear thanks

[@FitmentIndustries]

What are you doing with the car? If it’s just daily driving the spring rates that come from factory will be just fine

[@eddynsolorzano8033]

Daily driving but I don’t know what is the factory springs rates I search for the info but I didn’t find anything

[@drivenbypassion3634]

Damn, I would love to win those coil-overs, don't know if they'll fit on my minivan tho.

[@FitmentIndustries]

could still cop a 🔥 tee! 😂

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i just got 10k/6k fortune auto 500 for my 8th gen 6-6 today

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Awh man ,I just installed my coilovers :/ same ones too

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What wheel is that right behind your head? 🙃

[@FitmentIndustries]

Forged Concept One wheels!

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Get the F out.

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@@damian_cross 😂

[@luckduck5031]

I've watched 7 videos on coilovers from this channel but I still can't find what swift spring upgrade is and extra low option???

[@DoubtingThomas333]

I believe its a secondary spring that sits on top of the stiffer one. To give a progressive comfort range, until you're going fast and pushing the limits, then it starts relying on the heavier spring rate.

[@DoubtingThomas333]

Please don't lower your car so far...keep it stock height or even raise it a tiny bit.

[@stevenalvarez9061]

What is a perfect spring rate for a slammed but daily driver ?

[@FitmentIndustries]

If you’re slamming I would suggest a higher spring rate

[@connorgood1605]

What’s the wheel above gels right shoulder

[@FitmentIndustries]

Either forged Concept One wheels or Klutch KF wheels!

[@MrKieran117]

1:35 seems to repeat when explaining spring rates :( Might wanna have a look if a video editing error

[@MyBryant123]

Best spring rates for daily and track use ?

[@FitmentIndustries]

From personal experience, 8K's are pretty solid for everyday use and that occasional track use! -Edgar

[@monkey4soul]

Literally the only thing I came for was to figure out how much spring you need Thanks for blueballing me guys

[@FitmentIndustries]

Shhhhheeeeeesh 😬 Sorry brother!

[@georgekam449]

Pleaseee make a valving vid lmao

[@Artifact_Eight6]

so you want an sc300!!

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But would the BC coil overs make my mk6 Jetta look totally tubular??

[@FitmentIndustries]

Hell yeahhh budddd!

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Wesley Dean this just reminded me of stranger things 😂

[@BOOMER9551]

I want the next video

[@victors-9711]

The good and bad of lowering springs

[@chimkinnugget5221]

it’s true idk wtf people are talking about they’re talking about spring rates i’m just like mmhmm lol

[@xaviermila1816]

Can we euroguys enter?