just a week ago my wife said she wanted to get into warhammer, after alot of investigating were getting ready to bite the bullet then we went into our local game shop and this dude was hosting a kill team event, he explained alot of the game to us and was so friendly. Next week we are going to play our first match of kill team and this video helped me confirm its better to learn which armies i like before dropping 300+ dollars on some thousand suns lmao.
@archangel0891 Жыл бұрын
Thousand Sons.. great looking but fiddley to build
@archangel0891 Жыл бұрын
Only just started KT this year and im about £1k in already 😭
@tarro11143 ай бұрын
@@archangel0891 Bro I got into 40k three days ago. Already dropped 300€ with a three days in a row streak visiting my local Warhammer store. Now I discovered Kill Team with all of their dope factions and I think I have a problem lol. Being an impulsive shopper who loves the dopamine of buying something new doesn't help either xD
@jusayalex Жыл бұрын
I like to play and collect different playstyles and aesthetics and Kill Team offers that variety without spending an army's worth of money. I also like it because it's easier to gift a friend one box to start playing rather than buying one unit for 40k.
@SS_BAJA Жыл бұрын
I went to watch a 5v5 warhammer 40k game at my lgs and some of the guys there told me about kill team and since then I've been hooked on it. My favorite part about kill team is how quickly the back and forth is, I don't have to wait 20 minutes for my opponent to move all his troops and then do everything on their turn while I just sit there and roll dice. Another plus for me is how you just need like 1 box of guys and you're all set.
@davidponder16544 ай бұрын
I honestly think building and painting your dudes is like half the fun. Making your own successor chapter is awesome
@drclownicus Жыл бұрын
Loving Brad's new detective stache.
@Dalandow Жыл бұрын
I love me some Killteam. But as a skirmish game, it is needlessly convoluted. The rules need an "Age of Sigmar simplification", like we got for 10th edition Warhammer 40K. Compared to Warcry and other Skirmish games, it's more difficult to learn the basics.
@raincoast_bear Жыл бұрын
I wish KillTeam was 40k WarCry. KT is more convoluted than it should be.
@nraketh Жыл бұрын
There’s no reason to curse yourself with the suffering of going on to find the little bit of fun in full 40K. Kill team is the better game.
@tomekk.18895 ай бұрын
I'm wondering why you said this. It's not the objectively better game, it's just different. That fact that weapons don't even have ranges is enough of a reason for me to like 40k more. Kill team just feels so linear
@left_Dane_right_Dane Жыл бұрын
Keep spreadin' that good word brothers! I've branched into 10th edition now, but started with Kill Team and it's still my favorite. Awesome for anyone who likes to change up their playstyle often, as every kill team plays very differently. I feel more invested in my Kill Team models too, as the individual models and characters build a history battle after battle. Either with hilarious failures, or epic heroic deeds. Where as if you take them to 10th edition, it's just a squad of dudes, that usually just get shot off the board, or don't feel as impactful in the overall game.
@lintonrentfro Жыл бұрын
Keep doing this podcast. As you age, you’re going to sound a lot like Rick and Morty. You’re already 70% there.
@MrBjhuddz Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love Kill Team. It's well supported. It is growing well. The community is great. Over the last year, I have met so many new people and made some great friends. Winning
@Y3llowSt4r Жыл бұрын
Ya! Nice shots of the Teams you talk about! Nice improvement. Go go MT
@kalamander8563 Жыл бұрын
I jumped into 40k 2 years ago, but for over a year time, space and money jas prevented me from keeping up with the shiftng meta and change to 10th. My buddy, who got me into 40k initially, bought the kill team box with the Kommandos and Kreig Vets in it, so we gave it a shot. I love the game, and am transitioning to it. Current plan is to pick up a pair of Primaris Crusader Squad boxes to make an Intercession Squad and then hunt bits to make the smaller members into that newly revealed scout squad. Cheers!
@rwentfordable10 ай бұрын
Why keep up with the meta? Do you get paid to win? Why not just pay for fun.
@RAINBOWBEARMAN5 ай бұрын
First, great video and a lot of good points. What holds me back is that I like dreadnought, terminators, tanks, armigers and so on. Secondly the tokens. ugh, the tokens. they just annoy me / things to keep track of. Not sure if anyone else feels that way but I could do without the move red, shoot blue, and tokens for every model. thankfully the model count is low so that is appealing.
@janschulte8434 Жыл бұрын
Less hobby supplies is a good point. You can even paint your Kill Teams with smaller brushes. 😉
@MountainsideTabletop Жыл бұрын
You can rent a smaller apartment because your minis take up less space.
@Narcian150 Жыл бұрын
This is the only reason in the list that is basically not true. To start painting, you need to get the required brushes and the full paint pots. The initial costs on hobby supplies are identical. You can't rent a few days of a brush and get 2 ml of paint You are using less of the paint pot and then just not using it. Even with a whole army of 2000 pts 40k, you will not go through those initial pots of paint. It takes a large amount of kill teams to get over the turning point where this costs less than a second 40K army. By that point you already bled your wallet dry on this hobby one way or another. :P
@Glatius Жыл бұрын
Great stache brad
@uwesca626310 ай бұрын
I like it from an collecting fewpoint. I started with dawm of war and have a kinda catch them all attitude towards the factions. (Well atleast most of them) with kill team i can collect one box have fun painting it and can play with these units. And dont need to buy a combat patrol or more. Another more narrative reason: Since warhammer is a best of of multiple franchises its easy to make small narrative games. Like guard vs black painted gaunts that uses genestealer rules on gallowdark terrain as a boardgame version of "aliens". Or necrons as terminators.
@chicken_fpv Жыл бұрын
I'm new to the channel but I love your videos. I didn't believe the guy at the local hobby store when he told me that kill team was a better option for me. But over time I have come to realize some of the points you mention and it is totally true. Great video! thank you!
@MrTorbern75 Жыл бұрын
Fun video! I like the super-Mario “reason #..”
@FiannaBat Жыл бұрын
I didn't need much convincing personally but maybe I can get more of my locals in via this and season 3!
@sarrakitty Жыл бұрын
Be the change you wish to see, get that local Kill Team scene going even more!
@lionman8295 Жыл бұрын
I’m showing this to my friends!
@P777-o3q Жыл бұрын
Kill team is the best 😄👍
@nedash71 Жыл бұрын
This video made an affirmative case for every skirmish game, though. The points you made for Kill Team are the same for Shatterpoint, MCP, etc. I'd appreciate your insight into how the skirmish games out there are different from each other. For instance: I've played a fair bit of Kill Team and one game of Shatterpoint and I noticed these differences: 1) You win a game of Shatterpoint by pushing the other guy off of objectives, but it never feels like any of your characters are in peril (by design, I think). Characters have so many hit points that they are super-unlikely to be dead by the end of the game. 2) Consequently, there are no victory conditions for doing things to other characters in Shatterpoint like there are in Kill Team. Kill team models can be killed in one - two shots, so design space is available for things like Rob & Ransack or Headhunter. 3) Line of sight is much easier to figure out in Shatterpoint, and there is nothing counterintuitive like non-reciprocal shooting.
@tokens3988 Жыл бұрын
Hope for Deathguard killteam in the future , and something new updates this december for Killteam
@brendanarmstrong7802 Жыл бұрын
I hope you'll still continue doing the occasional Warcry report, though. They may not do as well as the Kill Team videos, but they'll bring in eyes that are otherwise focused on the fantasy side of GW's products. (And secretly, we all know it's the game better designed for quick beer and pretzels skirmish battles. Kill Team is a crunchy, complex game.)
@qelgrun Жыл бұрын
Agree with all of this!
@28kiriku11 ай бұрын
Best part is that it is more dynamic than regular 40k because one player moves an operative and then the other player plays his turn, so you are focused on the game and don't wanna kill yourself as you watch someone play his entireee army and zone out ....
@MrVloeistof7 ай бұрын
Agree on this. And you don't have to pray that there is something left to move and attack with on your turn. I've been blasted out of a game turn 1 due to some great rolls from my opponents too many times.
@mostcomplicatedman8115 Жыл бұрын
kill team is a godsend . i could never imagine myself playing 40k . but with killteam i feel like finally i can give it a try
@orshenoble Жыл бұрын
You'd be surprised man! I joined the hobby through Killteam, 40k always seemed like just too much of a hurdle comparatively. Recently dipped my toes into 40k to try it out and its easier to learn and play in every single way to me. Games are longer, but 10th edition made 40k easier than Killteam lol.
@iancarrico269 Жыл бұрын
Slowly painting up 2 kill teams. I paint slow but can't wait to play.
@trevormcguire6984 Жыл бұрын
If you collect Joytoy Warhammer figures, kill team is a game you can actually play with your figures. Two things at once!
@attiladukai21216 ай бұрын
I'm an AT player and thinking about to start this system too.
@Rhidcully Жыл бұрын
I have 6 Kill Teams. I learned I love Votann...
@WitekStraus10 ай бұрын
Rock and stone, to the bone!
@puppethound2 ай бұрын
Great explanation, subbed
@johntailby74 Жыл бұрын
More modern rule concepts like alternate activation and dice pools make for a better experience. The disappointing thing is that the layouts are symmetrical. Having the choice of side should mean something. Infinity works with asymmetric layouts. I also like that the secondary missions give a feel of asymmetric warfare.
@Chubbs70000000 Жыл бұрын
This channel is awesome, my favorite for kill team
@QuayNemSorr Жыл бұрын
Working on 12 teams. Only played once, with my son, trying to get him into it ;-)
@d12g6 Жыл бұрын
the most important thing about killteam vs warhammer 40k 10th edition is that the teams plays like it should be. an example, i play thousand sons in 10th, they feel good to play, but i'm not feeling the vibe of "evil space wizards". In killteam, warpcoven feels like i'm playing that, plus the options to customize your operatives. killteam should be the abridged version of big brother 40k, but now it is the exact opposite
@therandomheretek5403 Жыл бұрын
Excellent point. KT is just so much more thematic and focused.
@artemgusamov7028 Жыл бұрын
Could you possibly do Underworlds videos in the near future?
@SleepCobi Жыл бұрын
Would love to see some more death guard kt battle reports
@mostcomplicatedman8115 Жыл бұрын
im a complete beginer on the tabletop . the rules are hard for me to learn and feels complicated . but its amazing how little investment you need . and 6 vs 6 is enough .
@runningoutofnames3CS Жыл бұрын
I really thought they already came painted man 😭 my ass is not patient or skilled enough to paint multiple mini figs. This and the price is probably what’s keeping me away ngl
@chesteratienza51754 ай бұрын
Do you have a tutorial on how to play killteam?
@dwarrenmsp Жыл бұрын
I wanted to get into Kill Team, but in the end I realized that the setting wasn't for me *points at self*. I ended up getting deep into Marvel Crisis Protocol and I've started to dabble in Shatterpoint.
@dwarrenmsp6 ай бұрын
Here's an update: I'm selling Shatterpoint and getting into Kill Team. 7 months really change a guy.
@TrisMiners Жыл бұрын
Thanks for an interesting and entertaining review, based on your recommendations I'm in .
@ZergKingKoopa Жыл бұрын
I love necromunda. It’s sad I can’t find more.
@sitrucsimian545011 ай бұрын
I haven’t played kill team yet but have the octarius and into the dark box. What do I need to be up to date to play now? With gw there always seems to be something else needed to stay up to date.
@hobbesthebrainslug123 ай бұрын
Maybe I'm missing something big, but I have an older version of the KT rules, and new KT seems so limiting by comparison.
@ItsTruble9 ай бұрын
With Night Lords looming, can we use those kill team models with 40K armies?
@TabletopUpgrades10 ай бұрын
If these aren’t the two most likeable guys on the internet I just don’t know who is…. LOVE IT!
@forgefathervulkanhestan18 Жыл бұрын
Follow up for Warcry?
@akreid4614 Жыл бұрын
What is that intro music you guys have? I think it’s the same for the starstriders, but where can one get their hands on it?
@goopygoblin117 Жыл бұрын
You guys look like you brew your own beers 🔥
@tannerfinkle5581 Жыл бұрын
I would say Warcry is more expensive than KT. Playing "compendium" warbands is super expensive unless you already play that army, and almost the bespoke teams are better if you have multiple boxes to get access to multiple of the unique fighters. Though KT does have its fair share of 2 box teams, thats the max youll get, and theres tons of teams that only use 1 box. Also the inflexibility of KT makes it easier to learn strategies when the teams are (almost) always going to be the same
@TobyOHara Жыл бұрын
Love your batreps! Can I tempt you guys to play a Combat Patrol batrep?
@kayen3363 Жыл бұрын
I like this kind of Videos from you👍
@timopin2009 Жыл бұрын
It is the game for me!
@Caseyuptobat10 ай бұрын
I'll be sticking with OPR Grimdark Future Firefight instead, i think.
@slemph221410 ай бұрын
2 more reasons I enjoy killteam over 40k: My first one is the biggest one for me: The interactions / storytelling. In 40k I barely have any cool storytelling memories. "My squad of 5 sisters with meltas killed a tank" is just... not... dope? Melee is boring as fuck and usually is only a "my 20 melee guys charge your 15 shooting people and now your guys are gone". In killteam you have dope storytelling moments like a guy with a flamer hiding behind a wall, jumping out in the right moment, killing 3 people and saving the game. Melee is actually interactive and ANYONE can "technically" survive melee by carefully parrying and having the dice gods on their side. The 2nd reason is that it's easier to transport and setup. I like 40k, but having to travel half an hour with my giant hard-plastic transport case is annoying as fuck. I have to transport this giant case and then setup my miniatures for like 15 minutes BEFORE the game even starts. Hell nah, now I have this tiny thing that fits in my normal everyday bag with my 6-15 miniatures.
@browncaramelboba8408 Жыл бұрын
How long does kill team take in one game?
@coug9579 Жыл бұрын
Living in Los Angeles. How do I find people who play?
@andrewmorris550 Жыл бұрын
I think if you play warcry with the random battleplans and twists its totally random. If you play the matched play missions its very different.....
@goforitpainting Жыл бұрын
Cool as always.
@alexgarcia8365 Жыл бұрын
Is kill team and squad patrol both cross play with 40 K?
@BB-pn2qv Жыл бұрын
Love the gamw
@theshamurai32 Жыл бұрын
Just got done with a match yesterday. I dont want to say its "better" than 40k, but of the two ive had more fun with kill team so far. I just love boiling it down to a squad v. squad firefight, and its less of an investment in time and energy than a full 2,000 point game.
@MiNDmaZing Жыл бұрын
Is it like warcry in. 40k Setting?
@blazingknight. Жыл бұрын
Not quite the same, it has a different gameplay
@nigahiga878 Жыл бұрын
"everytime we say "you" we have to point at the camera" immediately fails the rule with the next word out of his mouth
@archangel0891 Жыл бұрын
Have you guys fallen out with KT?? Its been a month since your last KT battle!
@theramsden8873 Жыл бұрын
Question... is there a space for mordheim on mountainside table top? I love kill team and necromunda but my heart truly lies on the streets of mordheim amd i think you guys by far do the best battle reports I've seen, reckon you could do some cool stuff mordheim-wise
@andrewbeeching1240 Жыл бұрын
^^this^^ I'm the same (love KT & Necromunda, but Mordheim is my favourite), and reckon "Mordheimside Tabletop" would be incredible
@nf9417 Жыл бұрын
What kind of watch are you wearing?
@MountainsideTabletop Жыл бұрын
It’s a Citizen Eco-Drive Chrono AT
@nf9417 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!@@MountainsideTabletop
@ryanfletcher405411 ай бұрын
I've been a lifelong 40k player and gave up after 8th ed. My window into how great small skirmish games is was Underworlds Shadespire. Ever since that's oewtty juch been my whole criteria. I'm just about to get into Kill Team with a few friends and getting back into Necromunda. I'll never play 40k again
@The80sWolf_ Жыл бұрын
I have none to play with 😢
@oloolopatrolo Жыл бұрын
I missed reason Nr. 6: No Infinity community nearby. On a more seriouse note: You will find people to play everywhere.
@normanderi Жыл бұрын
The only thing i dont like about kill team, is that there are not many teams i like, i mean, not compendium team, i want some noise marines, some slaanesh demons, tau armor team, custodes and , i want more power unbalanced teams like gellerpox, for example, a full kill team of 6 tau armor but the leader has a crisis armor, shit killteams at base but really strong equipment to customize for the battle, a bit of compendium like kill teams are good too(i mean how they arent specialists based, some specialist but mostly squads good at something) and some more necrons(im a big necron fan, put as many as you want, im only playing hierotek rn and my friends almost dont want to play with me). For me adding some of these will make the game way better.
@davelebowski2859 Жыл бұрын
Keep up the great work guys.
@earnestwanderer2471 Жыл бұрын
Yep, you’re right on all counts. Warcry isn’t better or worse... just different. I don’t play Kill Team competitively, so the difference doesn’t matter to me.
@Damnedlegion40k Жыл бұрын
Movember, lol 😂
@mig1739 Жыл бұрын
Kill team is by far these best skirmish system on the market.
@MrBeenReadyy3 ай бұрын
Brad has some morty vibes goin on and I love it.
@TheBeeFlex Жыл бұрын
DAT STACHE THOUGH 🫡
@stevebarnett-f5o Жыл бұрын
I gave up on full on 40K , but Kill Team and Warcry are way more fun , and a lot kinder to my wallet ! . Votann team coming this weekend.
@ForTheOmnissiah Жыл бұрын
I got into Kill Team as a game to play while I build up a 40k army to play some 40k, and after a while I see the transition into playing 40k as not even worth it. I really enjoy Kill Team, and a majority of the aspects of 40k I just don't like when compared to Kill Team. The games take way longer, it has significantly more rule bloat, you can feel like you've already lost within the first 25% of playtime but don't want to concede because that's not fun and is unfair to the opponent who wants to play a full game of 40k... the list goes on. I like just buying a box of figures and having a brand new playable Kill Team out of the box. If I don't like it, who cares! Buy another box and try them out. You really don't get the same experience in 40k at all. Two extremely different games, and having played some 40k with friends armies, I'm gonna stick with Kill Team and Warcry as my go-to games.
@r3dcoat39710 ай бұрын
That is a good moustache
@rwentfordable10 ай бұрын
I play 40k, Necromunda and used to play kt, I hate how you measure on it and the bloat for what you get out of it. I'll stick to the other two. I can't see why kt exists with the other two.
@ludorockfriend8581 Жыл бұрын
Competitive games are about comparable in time within 15 mins it’s the one reason I don’t agree with but there’s plenty of reasons to play kill team
@jacksongallagher5056 Жыл бұрын
Nice stache brad
@FloppyOri5 ай бұрын
Mustache Brad can’t hurt you
@GojiruMaximus3 ай бұрын
Why does left guy sound like Morty
@rafhalimaxd8 ай бұрын
Left guy sounds and talks a lot like Morty haha
@dmereel Жыл бұрын
The rules are better IMO
@BB-pn2qv Жыл бұрын
Oh they sooooo are
@Uliseh Жыл бұрын
Give me real Tyranids KT's please !
@Sassy-Nurgling-Gaming Жыл бұрын
I find it has way too many rules and is far too vague with certain things. There are a few models in the game that have several paragraphs of special rules. It's just too much!
@michakoodziej574111 ай бұрын
Gosh, I should have started with this one and not 40k 😅
@wtfserpico Жыл бұрын
'Stache.
@stephencoulter3613 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos guys. However I think you focused on the wrong aspects in this video, most DIE hard 40k players I know have this common misconception that kill team is still a small points 40k game? Where as now it is its own standalone game with great rules (maybe ripping off SW legion alittle) so yeah you need to play onto the fact that it doesnt feel like a mini 40k, you still roll lots of dice, you still have cool strats and secondaries and abilities and most of all you get emotionally attached to your minis.
@ag578glaup5 Жыл бұрын
I renew my request to see Kommandos on the channel !
@MountainsideTabletop Жыл бұрын
Definitely something in store soon… 👀
@FlorentBraquart Жыл бұрын
Warcry ? Anyone ?
@TheBeeFlex Жыл бұрын
YOU should post batrep videos instead of trying to convince us to play Kill Team (we already are convinced)
@RoAdKil7 Жыл бұрын
KillTeam is awesome, was really hoping WarCry was going to just be "Fantasy KillTeam". I still play big40k on occasion but KT is my go-to
@qelgrun Жыл бұрын
I was actually hoping when it released that current Kill Team was going to be "WarCry 40K"!
@dantecote6763 Жыл бұрын
Kill team is slower then 10th edition which partly did not help it