Why YOU SUCK At Writing: Power Scaling

The original thumbnail pits my OC Kaara Tibur against Sukuna and his dad. Kaara Tibur is currently 12 years old in the story, but with her big brain and some prep time she could definitely no-diff both of them at once without even trying.
By my calculations based on a cherrypicked example from my book, Kaara Tibur can move at five times the speed of light, which is way faster than anything in the JJK verse, including Sukuna. On top of that, she has water powers which can turn to ice. Meaning Mahoraga is gonna be taking a ton of different damage types which he cannot adapt to. Kaara Tibur, known for punching ugly bums in the kidneys, would have no issue shattering Sukuna's kidneys.
Finally, even if Sukuna were to use a binding vow and sacrifice Megumi's balls to create a world-ending slash, Kaara would just need to say 'nuh uh' and then the slash- seeing that she's a better character- would turn around and cut Sukuna in half.
"I will forget you by tomorrow, Ryoumen Sukuna. This really was a Jujutsu Kaisen. You are my special." - Kaara Tibur (Definitely)
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[@ScritRighter]

My gigachad fans who agree with me NO DIFF my beta male haters who disagree with me.

[@jeremiahboyd2147]

Kaara might be as powerful, just like Peppino

[@stealthily6668]

Please tell me that thumbnail is bait... EDIT: Your editor is selling. Litwick isn't even fully evolved, of course its gonna have bad stats!

[@Broski-nl2tl]

Won't lie, I'm scared to finish writing my series and it have horrible power scaling for me to..well..rewrite.

[@speedyspeed8178]

I could just draw a stick figure and say it’s the most powerfull character in all of anime

[@Broski-nl2tl]

@@speedyspeed8178 And it would be.

[@Harvestinberrys]

Putting an image of JoJo's Bizzare Adventure over a talking point about how series are just about people punching harder proves you've never seen JoJo.

[@stevenmcclutchey4744]

Exactly, that's quite literally the opposite point of stand battles, at BEST, he could be referring to part 1.

[@stevenmcclutchey4744]

Edit: I just read another comment, he hasn't seen it, he just put it there to make people mad.

[@Harvestinberrys]

@@stevenmcclutchey4744 The only fight I can think of being solved by punching harder is Tarkus, thats it.

[@stevenmcclutchey4744]

@@Harvestinberrys Exactly

[@obliviongigan6360]

You are actually right, he didn't saw Jojo, it was just his editor messing with him.

[@mangocookie4790]

Funny how you brought up JJBA in your tactics point when most if not all of the fights actually use a lot of tactics and skill and not purely punching people

[@lmao2302]

I was about to post that shit to the group chat about that example pissing me the fuck off cause it's literally the exact fucking opposite spectrum of that in it's example except for maybe part 3.

[@KaliTakumi]

Right, every single Jojo fight is a battle of wits and never a contest of strength

[@ScritRighter]

Me when my editor makes me take a stance I don't know I'm taking cuz I never watched Jojo's

[@SaucedUpStinkyGrandpa]

@@ScritRighterlol, its fine

[@mangocookie4790]

@@ScritRighter that's unfortunate

[@myretix]

The Elusive Samurai has a good example for your tactics point. MC is a child with effectively no strength, but is capable of evading practically anyone. Presented with a stronger foe, MC slits his wrists and outruns him until he collapses. The author didn't give MC a super-duper all-new power to defeat his enemy, but instead wrote the MC into a situation that plays to his strengths.

[@ScritRighter]

Ranking of Kings did the same thing too.

[@blugger]

I read that as the main character slitting his own wrists and just running crop circles around the villain as some sort of flex Which, tbf, would give him the default win

[@coolcommcollect]

@@ScritRighter I didn't really like how Ranking of Kings gave Bohji his power up. It was cool that they accounted for his deafness and weak body, but towards the end of the first season, he gets way too powerful for my liking. Like, he kinda no diffs most people after a little bit of training

[@TheRockerX]

@@coolcommcollect Bohji was already stated to be the strongest person in the world after his training with Despa halfway through season 1... I'm surprised it took you till the end of the season to realize he was OP

[@coolcommcollect]

@@TheRockerX My problem is with the fact that he is the strongest person in the world now. He literrally went through one training arc and now can beat most kings with ease. I think that might harm the future of the story

[@WhoisThatGuy-]

Skill over raw strength and broaden your interpretation of the abilities you introduce. That's about what I understand

[@blugger]

It is sometimes difficult to introduce strategic thinking when there's the temptation of "it's magic, ain't gotta explain it!" But J think a writer with a passion (or patience) for chemistry would probably be able to turn even something as basic as "fire go pew" into a terrifying swiss army knife. Otherwise, it seems some writers play with "hyper specific abilities that auto-win after a series of very bizarre conditions are met," something which Jojo stands are infamous for. While this leads to some incredibly engaging scenes (Joetaro intimidating a soul gambler into folding with nothing but a mean look and the fact that he moves fast enough to catch bullets at point blank range), a lot of it can just come off as unnecessarily convoluted and arbitrary and kinda divorced from anything the reader could latch onto. For example, De'Arby (the soul gambler man) basically takes your soul if you ever "admit defeat," even if you merely think it for a moment. In order to set up this ability without just getting pasted by a blue/purple cave man who can punch bullets mid flight, he tricks one of the main characters into a game and takes his soul as hostage. I personally find this to be VASTLY more satisfying than if it were just a domain expansion where violence is just not a possibility.

[@thiagotoloza2028]

​@@bluggerPrefiero un poco de todo.

[@WhoisThatGuy-]

@@blugger and that's a fair opinion to have, though I do think those "hyper specific conditions" have a place to be enjoyable since it's simply a tool for the writer to flex their creative muscles a bit Exp, having a Fire user in an oxygen low environment while fighting a non-organic opponent or something similar, it facilitates an interesting problem and weakens one side that otherwise would win in a landslide. I think jjk does well in its power scaling tactics vs raw power because (outside of outliers like Gojo and Sukuna) we get fights like with Mahito which turns each fights into a simple game of tag and outside of Yuji,for very good reason that Sukuna and his souls are intertwined,anybody that gets touched directly is GG'S and it makes him a threat without making him too overpowered because his weakness is the same thing, somebody touching his soul. All of that is to simply say that I think power scaling entirely depends on what rules you put in place and how closely you stick or bend those rules without breaking suspension of disbelief.

[@Joker_Zz]

​@@WhoisThatGuy-I would agree with you if it weren't for the fact that there are like 5 characters total who can touch the soul besides Mahito (Maki via the sword, Toji for the same reason as Maki, Yuji, Sukuna and Nobara. Maybe you could throw in a 6th and say Megumi but like, he's never shown feats nor does it really make sense). Like, get any other character besides those 5 previously mentioned (besides Nobara, she still gets clapped) and, with the exception of Yuta (RCT oneshots before Mahito can heal himself with Idle Transfig); Gojo (Limitless) and Kenjaku (he probably oneshots), they're all going to easily die.

[@WhoisThatGuy-]

@@Joker_Zz he still had to be a threat if everybody could touch his soul,then their would be no point to it,and the fact Nobara can effect him is good because it makes her highly specialized to handle him without making her immune to his Idle Transfiguration,as opposed to someone like Todo who,if he he was capable of damaging his soul, could have easily handled Mahito. But that's my point the tactics of the "pieces" in play matter more then anything else,it's fine to have characters to cover others weaknesses

[@uboa8060]

18:56 Mahoraga and the Prison Realm were teased since the very beginning of the story... World Cutting Slash is about as much of an asspull as me learning to do a complicated math equation through watching someone else do it. Sukuna's ENTIRE plan was to use Mahoraga's Nth adaptation to infinity as a blueprint to attack Gojo. It's why he took Megumi's body in the first place... He experienced Mahoraga hard countering his technique first hand.

[@Santiago.V7]

Finally, someone who actually read and watched jujutsu kaisen😭🙏

[@kingofpigs6630]

The jjk critiques seemed a bit exaggerated to me too. From what I know it feels pretty consistent throughout nor does it seem that convoluted. Admittedly I do tend to like the concepts Gege uses for things like Gojo's infinity, black flash, rct and domains

[@crissanti8206]

@@Santiago.V7only peaple braindead and gojolovers say that is an asspull when in the very manga sukuna reveals his true strategy against gojo

[@RushWheeler]

Uboa, the strongest JJK fan in history Vs. Scrittus, the strongest JJK hater of today

[@kingofpigs6630]

@@RushWheeler OVERWHELMING INTENSITY

[@BrunofanofK]

In Dragon Ball's defense its powerscale throughout Z saga was impecable. Superman though goes from outspeeding the galazy to becoming the punching bag of the bat family.

[@eduardopantoja9115]

Superman suffers from having diffrent writers having different ideas about Superman. Not just on his power but also on his intelligence and skill because Superman isn't stupid or a basic fighter but sometimes those aspects aren't that obvious

[@huggy68]

The power scaling in Dragon Ball was very good. It's a mess in Dragon Ball Z after the Namek saga. Goku goes from 5k to over 1 million power level who can easily destroy planets. In the Broly movie he should've destroyed earth on numerous occasions.

[@turkeybeef6269]

​@@huggy68 Nope, you're wrong, Ki Control.

[@RushWheeler]

​@@turkeybeef6269Super Saiyan Vegeta's Big Bang:

[@turkeybeef6269]

@@RushWheeler- is the name of an attack. I don't get what your point is?

[@V1Ultrakilllmao]

Surprise attack neg-diffs fiction

[@chaseorr3948]

Off screen attacks neg-diffs fiction

[@gamercentral2417]

I mean it would be a surprise if he one shot goku so yeah

[@gamercentral2417]

@@chaseorr3948Blud does NOT know the context

[@theMemeDetective]

SUPRISE ATTACK *probably gets hit by a random dollar store superhero attack*

[@spinningpig2347]

Blackbeard with Offscreen Offscreen No Mi no-diffs fiction idc what y'all say

[@notthefbi7015]

I think my one complaint is especially with Naruto, the ninja of the story are based around the ninja of the story Jiraiya the Gallant (who Jiraiya is literally inspired from). Outside the ambush attacks throughout the series, ninja are rarely if ever shown to be super sneaky and all about espionage. I don't disagree the power scaling is wack, but I would also say in the case of Naruto and DBZ its because of the cultural inspirations for the series vs general western perception. For example people often equate hardwork vs talent being the theme of Naruto but it never was, it was always about understanding and rising above one's circumstances. Still a fantastic video, and brought up plenty of good points.

[@ScritRighter]

Fair critique tbh

[@bijuutamer729]

@@notthefbi7015 saying ninja are never shown to be steathly while also using Jiraiya’s name in the same sentence is wild. Jiraiya and Orochimaru were the most prevalent cases throughout Naruto of Ninjas with skill sets to close the gap between their target or to evade their pursuers. Orochimaru literally killed Gaara’s dad and used him as a way to control the Sand into conflict with the leaf. And Naruto’s bag of tricks involved misdirection like against Zabuza, team Oboro, Kiba, or Kaguya.

[@Spooder_Man1421]

I've always hated the complaint of "remember when naruto was still about ninjas" like the first scene showed a few that could destroy mountains with a single tail, then being sealed inside the mc who was learning to harness that power. It was never about ninjas

[@wswann34]

Please understand that the definition of ninja in naruto does not mean stealthy or is close to how we understood it to be. Ninja in Naruto means a tool, ur jus a tool for your village. Also the first chapter was about A NINE TAIL DEMON FOX destroying a village, so Naruto was all about wizards from the beginning. Also also also, the story of naruto is about dealing with your inner demon and overcoming darkness which they kept consistent throughout

[@Bjjboxing]

True this video is so bad

[@ruanpaiva3554]

I'm not so sure. At the beginning we see they make a great effort of being stealth. But after Shippuden we almost don't see stuff like what we see in the Chunnin exams, were hiding and tracking skills were as important as fighting skills to face your enemies. Even ninjutsu was not something that they used all the time, since character's chakra pool was limited. At the end, even before the war, Naruto is only an anime about fighting wizards that are throwing spells at each other. EVEN THE HAND SEALS WERE ALMOST NOT USED ANYMORE!!

[@Bjjboxing]

@ruanpaiva3554 You have no idea what you are talking about. The vs Kakuzu arc. The bridge arc. Are examples. The almost the hand seals are almost not used anymore. Please reread this sentence and notice how dumb you sound. You are literally admitting that hand seals were used but pretending they were not. Truly mental gymnastics at its best

[@wswann34]

@@ruanpaiva3554 at the beginning they also summoned a giant fox, frog , snake and sand raccoon. If u read the story u would know that the ninja title only means tool and the story beat this in the readers head from zabuza ark

[@ruanpaiva3554]

@@wswann34 I'm not saying that they were not supposed to learn how to do that stuff. The problem is, in a matter of scale, things went too far. During Hiruzen's fight against Orochimaru and the Hokages we hear he say "they are as strong as I remember". Then, in Shippuden, Hashirama and Tobirama became ten times stronger each one, even while still an Edo Tensei. And, again, stealth was important until Sasuke's retrieval arc. Then, on the first arc of Shippuden, during Gaara's rescue mission, strategy becomes non-existent and it's only a matter of "it seems like I'm facing you, so let's fight!".

[@skeletonofflavor2716]

As a powerscaler, armature novelist, and longtime channel lurker. I'm so glad this isn't just another powerscaling-bad video. Great stuff!

[@sp.n7401]

The JoJo slander engagement bait is working

[@Drdrakeincorperated]

2:23 JOJO’s Bizarre Adventure isn’t about the fights, it’s about gay se-

[@frieren2874]

Using jojo as an example of just punching things or trying tongrow stronger is straight up wrong, kind of makes me wonder if you even watched it

[@ScritRighter]

I didn't lmao.

[@sirrjean1553]

Bahahah

[@lmao2302]

@@ScritRighter You put that there to piss people off 😭😭

[@frieren2874]

@@ScritRighter lol, btw forgot to put It in the comment but love your videos, keep It up

[@boypancake1231]

​@@lmao2302his editor

[@RedLordOfAlagadda]

Man, your editor did you *dirty* with that JoJo joke.

[@coolcommcollect]

I think the some of the best power systems are ones where you can do other stuff besides combat. Full Metal Alchemist is a great example, cause alchemy is not just a great combat system. You can use it to heal, do construction, do scientific experiments. It actually feels like something a world would have, besides something like ki, which is just to fight.

[@Spino-hx2mr]

A favorite of mine, Hunter X Hunter, places Nen users in important positions. They're soldiers, fighters, geniuses, and workers, people who make things in society *work* instead of merely being for fighting!

[@Enviosss]

I mean, ki has other applications as well, such as mind reading and longevity, telekinesis..and even healing if you count some of the feats from the movies.

[@theshatteredseas]

How I interpret my power scaling is that; at no point is any character (in the same weight class) is incapable of beating another character. Almost every character will be killable within the resources provided by the story. Even still, weaker characters will have the means to seek those resources at their own comfort if they have good enough motivation. I just lock what methods do, or don't work on certain characters based on the target's abilities. For example, one of my characters is effectively unkillable due to unfathomable regeneration, stamina, speed and defenses but in return; possesses little to no means to actually harm opponents she is usually required to support against. Forcing her to fight against much more well-rounded opponents relying on much more fragile teammates because she has less offensive power than the rest of hee team 90% of the time. A lot of her fights are team-based tactics where she is required to position her team in the perfect way while she trades hits or alters the state of the board to her favour but without supporting pieces can't do much. She usually has the option to flee any lethal encounter without support so she is usually challenged in situations where the objective isn't just to survive but actually obtain something or protect something.

[@bigrodent-kingofRNG9931]

6:28 tactics and actually being good at fighting while using abilities creatively are an integral part of Jojo’s battles especially in part 2 where a regular (although buff) man beats an all powerful perfect life form by outsmarting it and ESPECIALLY after the introduction of stands

[@shinymew1213]

I’m not sure if you were insinuating that jojo doesn’t have tactics. But I hope that isn’t what you were trying to insinuate because jojo has never been about punching harder. It’s always been about trickery and outsmarting, outwitting, or out preparing your opponent. And honestly in many cases it comes down to fate /plot that is heavily tied to the themes of the part that it is apart of. It’s maybe 2-3 fights that are just a test of strength. And one is jotaro vs dio and even that has a level of trickery because jotaro tricks dio into thinking he can’t stop time in order to get the upper hand. They have to figure out what dios ability even is in the first place and that costs them 2-3 crusaders. That is not about who is punching harder that’s deduction, deception, and outsmarting.

[@ChedSled]

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[@javonscruggs8233]

The Prison realm was literally teased pretty early on and second Sukana literally stole the ten shadows to get a blueprint for a powerful attack to defeat Gojo. Its not that Gojo was weak or wasn't as strong as he thought he was it was just Sukana was just that good in the end. Gojo efforts did play a role in the rest of the fight as without gojo fighting Sukana first his students wouldn't have stood a chance

[@Yhapsody-cr8wm]

Stop defending mediocre consistency. Literally the worst system that mimics nen contracts(binding vows) is absolute trash. It doesn't address limitations nor any sort of equivalent exchange. Its literally a plot device for the characters to not die or win when they want to. I ask you this question, when was the last time gojo did a binding vow? Never? I wonder why? Another thing that literally everyone forgets about is the fact that your innate technique becomes pretty much useless when your domain expansion is over. Yes this is only for a short period of time but then we see characters directly negate this or ignore it VERY early on. Look at Mahito doing domain expansion and somehow able to use his ct afterwards. Look at sukuna using fire arrow after malevolent shrine. Im sure there are others if you look for them as well. This was a concept that was introduce later on that dismantles a lot of fights and logic simply to have a downside thats only prevalent when you want it to be.

[@twstudios8538]

​@@Yhapsody-cr8wm1. ​how is it defending Medicare consistency? It's OBJECTIVLY true 2. A binding vow is trading an advantage for a disadvantage, and explain how binding vows are never equal? 3. Gojo did use binding vows, in fact he used like 5 in the span of 3 chapters during the domain clash, read the fucking manga 4. Mahito DIDNT use his technique after his domain, ehy do you think he used black flash on todo instead of one shotting him when he showed intent, once again, read the manga 5. You are such a dumbass it's crazy, sukuna never used fuga after his domain, when he used it in 259, he still had his domain, he just stopped the domains attack, as explained, sukuna can only hit multiple targets with fuga INSIDE his domain, and sukuna almost hit multiple targets, meaning his domain was still active Please read the manga before spewing shit that can be disproved by looking at 5 words

[@r.k845]

@@Yhapsody-cr8wm”Sukuna using fuga after shrine” Jjk readers cannot read example 12324242

[@r.k845]

@@Yhapsody-cr8wm”Sukuna using fuga after shrine” Jjk readers cannot read example 12324242

[@eVillAnime-w3f]

@@Yhapsody-cr8wm the domain is explained to make them tired as if they just worked out at the gym really hard. the lock-out after using the domain remains consistent until the end of the story, Kenjaku, Mahito, Sukuna, Megumi all have the same limitation after it where they can't use their CT properly, and Sukuna only learns how to fix his brain in the final battle to use it a few more times if someone can easily lift their 400kg weight then it makes sense they can continue lifting after it too... just look at naruto's hand signs and Haku cheating around them in the 1st arc, they're a soft limiter not a hard "this must happen no matter what"

[@Sappysappster]

This is a really good video it's nice to see someone cover the topic of powerscaling and realize its importance narratively. Very often do I just see people who aren't even part of it add themselves to discussions of scaling and act so smart like "This is dumb bugs bunny beats thanos! author decides who wins 🤓☝!!!!" Ignoring the fact that: 1. It's just harmless fun to do (why do you care so much) 2. I know damn well y'all are lying when you say that because if the author decided that someone trash like idk Miwa could go toe2toe with Sukuna for no real reason y'all would call it an asspull and bad writing rightfully so 💀💀 💀💀 Authors might not be calculating how many tons of TNT that guy's punch is, but they DO know how to convey the idea of power or feats by establishing internal consistency that is basic writing 101, and I'm tired of people pretending it's not because some guy said Goku can flex his right buttcheek and destroy a solar system powerscaling matters also unrelated but 6:34 your editor needs a smack on the head for sliding in Jojo's Bizarre Adventure during the part about tactics Like what is Jojos Bizarre Adventure if not Tactics and mindgames:The powersystem?? Hello??????

[@kazooha524]

I’m so glad ppl are pointing out how JJBA is the exact opposite of just punching in fights lol. Even in part 3 with Jotaro who loves to just punch ppl, most of the fights are super creative & all of them involve tactic. Every part has super creative & engaging fights

[@shadowgamesxy2843]

Power Scaling is important in my opinion, that way you can keep track of what each character can do and if character G is going to need an extra push or help of character B to defeat character X.

[@pr0xi_zura.]

I agree with tactics. No point in having so much power if you don't have the skill to land it. I especially love watching shows where the weak overcome the powerful when the tactics are just right or that the power level is just low enough. To this day, when I think about a seamless world where the abilities you are born with have little association with your combat prowess, it's easily Avatar for me. They did a great job in portraying competent non-benders; from Jet, to the Kyoshi Warriors, and of course Sokka. "Airship slice!" is up there as a major moment in the show for me. Like...Sokka had the idea to seamlessly take out a whole fucking capital fleet dude. If that isn't the best showcase how the "weakest" can still go toe-to-toe with the most oppressive and powerful factions...then, I dunno.

[@Yhapsody-cr8wm]

Literally the entire point of the boys show was about non supers killing supers. Although cant say the same about current the boys...

[@numberhunter62]

In a series like Dragonball where breaking your limits is one of the core themes of the story, there would have to inevitably be something beyond Super Saiyan. Plus, for the sake of marketing and merchandise they have to look different. Gotta sell those action figures.

[@S3rp3nte]

Also technically speaking Goku when he got hit by the laser was too relaxed and not on guard, and as Its show many times in Dragon Ball character's durability its at max only when they are on guard.

[@eVillAnime-w3f]

@@S3rp3nte okay but why does he go from Bullet level to the power of the universe just by locking in? that's gotta be a 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 time increase in his durability lmao

[@Jack_Woods]

The entire point of JoJo is that no one has enough brute strength to always win, no matter the power, stand users either win or die thanks to their intellect and resolve

[@Sage447]

I disagree with naruto critique Kakashi in the first arc said that there are ninja younger than naruto stronger than him out there. Ninja being stealthy is a thing but isn’t a focus because our protagonist isn’t that type of ninja. Ninja is just an aesthetic in naruto just like pirates in one piece. In the second arc in naruto we have a kaiju battle while the 3rd hokage fight orchimaru in the background. Naruto has many type of battles depending on the people fighting

[@eVillAnime-w3f]

but no matter how far you go in one piece they still sail ships and try to find a treasure, by the end of Naruto you might as well call them super saiyan warriors and it wouldn't make a difference, it loses its identity

[@spaceman6693]

Gotta disagree with the Naruto one, we’ve seen stuff like the byakugan day 1 we’ve seen them cause natural disasters in Naruto, like when Naruto fought the 1st tailed beast or when orochimaru levels konoha, they were able to do this because they summoned legendary beasts and powers not many ever have that’s why majority of the verse he’s stealth tactics, and no teenager besides Naruto sasuke and Sakura touch the top tiers the rest are adults or actual gods

[@kaminaridenki._.]

the strongest powerscaling tool "but does he beats goku tho????"

[@kaminaridenki._.]

wait, i just got to 2:00 and he started talking about exactly this xD

[@hiddenleif6854]

I think now that we’re starting to get to the point where new mangaka will have grown up with power scaling, it’s likely that we’ll get a series in the next decade or so that really just NAILS it. That learns from the successes of its predecessors while avoiding their pitfalls and fumbles, and where it’s clear the author just enjoys power scaling for its own sake

[@MistaZULE]

Kagurabachi is, to me, powerscaling done extremely well. 7 enchanted swords, the swordsmen who have mastered them, the government full of powerful sorcerers trying to control the swordsmen, and a shadowy group of sorcerers wanting to steal and take the power of the swords for thsmsleves. The swords ended the war, and their power is known and controlled so when those swords are let loose, their power has been built up and the carnage feels earned. The swords have three powers that can be used in new ways based on the skill and creativity of the user. There are no asspulls because the swords have set logic, but can be constantly reinvented upon. It's pretty much perfect and there's none kf these artifical walls such as dbz having ss1, ss2, ss god which left behind major characters that got powerscaled out of conflicts.

[@hiddenleif6854]

@@MistaZULE Kagurabachi actually came to mind as I was writing this based on the buzz I’ve been hearing, I haven’t read it yet but will soon

[@MistaZULE]

@@hiddenleif6854 read it. You won't be disappointed and it has amazing artwork.

[@eVillAnime-w3f]

@@hiddenleif6854 it's unironically one of the best shonen I've read

[@auralynpaisley-ellis6505]

6:30 why did you have JJBA there? Most of the parts are heavily dependent on tactics and matchups. Lets go with Lovers im part three for instance, the stand was weak and slow. It almost killed someone regardless by deception, and was beaten because kakyoin probed the illusions. That was the real end of the fight, past that was just Jotaro meming. The entirety of part 6 happens because Pucci outsmarted Jotaro at the start, most fights with Kira are based around strats, like why did you overlay that with punchies stuff when it’s a prime example of tactics?

[@mordeau7402]

yea its a pretty weak example for his take

[@Igni-Geer]

You have no idea how useful this video is for me thank you!!

[@thecasul1524]

Jojo's fights are 80% strategy and 15% ocassional asspull or questionable science fact. I guess you're tired of reading comments about how Jojo's isn't the type of show whose battles are just "punchy punch, kicky kick, but you kind of had it coming for using it as an example when you didn't watch it lol.

[@SSFplayer2]

appearently it was teh editor who did him dirty

[@MiniBinguss]

90% of Jojo fights end with a climactic beatdown the "strategy" is often pretty simple and easily forgotten and/or asspulls.

[@Garvant_]

​@MiniBinguss yeah stop talking you've never watched it because risotto vs doppio has more strategy in it alone than 90% of all shonen combined

[@SSFplayer2]

@@Garvant_ doppio having to figure out how not to get in range for his blood to turn itno sharp objects

[@ignacionachoberardo3837]

If an anime is big as fuck and youre going to use it as an example, try to get the general concensus of it all before doing it, else this happens

[@davidwinnerwise1429]

18:50 The reference to Sukuna and Gojo's fight had me laughing 😂

[@Kraxel-North]

My one complaint with the video Is the repeated casual dropping of super spoilers

[@DONOTWANT-ie1dk]

seriously

[@Red_tto]

I love the persona music in the background ❤️❤️❤️

[@Remedy-jh1ee]

4:27 one of the first panels we see in Naruto is the Nine tails terrorizing and leveling an entire village on its own. The precedent for big power levels was set right there and then, the main characters just had to catch up

[@ScritRighter]

We also see an entire village of shinobi having to band together to stop it. In the power scaling later on, it'd only take like a small group of people lmao.

[@Remedy-jh1ee]

@@ScritRighter Ya those few people being the kage, main antagonists or main characters in general (one of which has the damn fox inside em) Are you implying that any group of named jonin later in the story would be capable of stopping that attack? For example a team of Neji, Shino, Yamato and Darui?

[@eVillAnime-w3f]

@@Remedy-jh1ee no because those characters became completely useless after Naruto became ninja jesus. not to mention, in the flashback the 9 tailed fox was not firing off atomic bombs made of chakra

[@Remedy-jh1ee]

@@eVillAnime-w3f Idk what exactly your tryna say with this comment. Obviously they're fodder in comparison but for Konoha these named jonin are like still some of the best barring the literal kage. My point was other than the main characters and Kage's you won't find anyone capable of beating the 9 tails that appeared in even the 1st chapter of the manga. The power ceiling only really crashed and burned way towards the middle/end of the war arc. (Which is another reason it I don't like the arc)

[@ignacionachoberardo3837]

2:22 that example only really applies to Jotaro in Part 3, and thats sorta (the D'Arby and D A R B Y fights + the DIO fight) Jonathan shows some battle IQ but not a lot Joseph's entire gimmick is outsmarting people And Josuke is sort of both Jotaro and Joseph (the Keicho Nijimura, Akira Otoshi and Highway Star fights show his insane battle IQ well, on top of how he outsmarted Yoshikage Kira and a bunch more examples) From there its all complex topics like fate, free will, control, etc

[@cesarpedrazamartinezgarcia725]

In defense of the HxH situation, Nanika has been perfectly set in stone she's painfully costly to use by anyone, it was used as a perfect moment to reveal the truth that was already suspected of... Killua can ignore the rules, because Nanika loves Killua, simple and perfectly believable. What's more, the consequences, despite being an outcome Togashi was forced to do (He intended Gon to stay dead) he recovered very well by leaving Gon without nen. A very real consequence that can be acknowledged by the lack of... Gon. It was also presented they would go on their own separate ways from now on. So if Gon came back as a protagonist, he couldn't play that card either way again. If Killua entered the picture or he was the protagonist, then yeah, i couldn't argue that the event broke the stakes quite a bit. But i could see him playing around that, being Nanika has been in danger herself and still wouldn't attack

[@charnalk5572]

The fact still remains that her only restriction actually do not exist tho. She isn't costly to use, and there is no actual repercussions to using her powers. Her powers don't have any limits nor rules, she can do whatever and if this wasn't the case then Killua having free wishes would simply not be possible. This turns Killua into a plot device, but it does create an interesting conflict with his family (no way he's getting to roam around free now, Illumi and possibly Silva will have him turned into a free wish puppet or might not eve have to compromising their goals with Killua if say he's manipulated to permanently add other family members in the free wish white-list).

[@samuelespinoza3336]

Yeah, about gon not having nen, Jing tells gon that he could feel his nen but it was on low output

[@kaisac.]

For your example of x beating, y doesn't mean x can beat z even though y beat z. This is true in real-life combat sports. You'll see it time and time again because of styles. Champ of a division facing a contender, contender has lost to guys the champ has already beaten. Then the contender pulls an upset cause he could have a good style match up, executed a perfect game plan, set up a perfect counter shot, etc. Wish it was more often like that in anime than power gap big so i win.

[@uboa8060]

It's only applicable when x ≈ y or y ≈ z, if they're capable of the same things then they could use the same method to defeat the third person.

[@yuphine9001]

not to be a massive super nerd about things, but im gonna be a massive super nerd about things for a second. in theory another avenue for countering hyperspace projectiles is the use of gravity wells, both natural and artificial to cause anything traveling in hyperspace to veer unpredictably away and or get atomically pulverized into pieces small enough to cause only minor damage or even get blocked by ray shields, assuming the safety on the hyperspace drive is turned off which if it weren't would just cause the projectile to harmlessly slow down to a stop in front of the target. that is to say that the discovery and development of hyperspace weapons would be a game changer, but more in the sense that it forces ships to focus into either maneuverability as a defense or gravity well generators as defense, with both hyperspace drives and gravity well generators likely seeing a process of gradual miniaturization to the likely end point of disposable drives mounted in missiles and corvettes with gravity wells which has its own knock on effects to make classic rebel hit and run tactics non-viable. just some initial thoughts on the idea.

[@adora_burst8143]

I like how JJK somewhat weaves power scaling into it's themes with "The Strongest and its unrivaled solitude". Gojo and Sukuna were established as inconceivably above everyone else as 1 and 2. It's also why I think Kashimo was a bit unsatisfactory. He was The Strongest of his Era, like Gojo and Sukuna, he's the only one other than Sukuna to understand Gojo and his plight. However, when people talk about who number 3 is, Kashimo is rarely the first or second character to be brought up for the position, and I think that makes him an ugly duckling in his own theme. Also him getting dispatched so swiftly to show how strong Sukuna is was unnecessary since he literally just crowned himself as number 1 when he just killed Gojo.

[@PlanetDiablo16967]

Kashimo wasn't killed quickly simply as a display of strength. Sukuna, at this point, knew he'd be running a guantlet and didn't want things to drag out. You can actually see this with how he engages with his various opponents. Any time, someone strong comes along that can maybe kill him or damage him heavily in the long run, he tries to dispatch them with one heavy blow. Think Waffle cleave for Kashimo and World Cutting Slash for Yuta. But he plays around a bit with weaker people, like with Higuruma and Kusakabe. At least that was my reading of his behavior.

[@adora_burst8143]

@@PlanetDiablo16967 It's a fine interpretation. However the only problem I have with it is that he very clearly did not take Yuta all that seriously since he didn't kill him before he opened his domain. Which he very much could have since his output was picking back up. He refers to Yuta as the main course. Someone to savor until he kills him. Which would give credence to the idea that he took no chances with Kashimo, but as my original comment should suggest, I don't think that should've been the way to deal with Kashimo's full strength.

[@PlanetDiablo16967]

@@adora_burst8143 In both cases, Sukuna doesn't try to kill the person he's fighting until he gets overwhelmed by their full power. Yes, he doesn't take Yuta seriously until Yuta pulls out his domain but keep in mind, but Kashimo goes all out almost from the very start of the fight and throws everything he has at Sukuna. Meanwhile, Yuta was pacing himself because they had half a dozen contingency plans and Yuta was involved in most of them.

[@DONOTWANT-ie1dk]

oh damn I was like why not diagonal power scaling AND THEN U DID IT

[@aguywithalotofopinions412]

There are 3 types of “power scaling” 1-The scaling of characters within a story to each other (the most important one), and this one is intrinsically linked with a power system 2-The scaling of the universe within itself, what these characters are capable of within their own story (also pretty important) 3-Scaling of characters in between universes, classic who would win debate (this one is really stupid)

[@odinson2273]

The bait and switch here had me, but honestly, I agree with what you're saying to a big extent. People often overlook the fact that there's multiple factors in a fight that determine a winner. Glad you mentioned PR, too. Sukuna only lived because of plot.

[@juliusnovachrono4370]

I am writing a story where the character are big stronk and this is a video I did not know I needed.

[@stale_cheeto]

You should tell your editor to dial it back on the spoilers, but otherwise I thought the video was interesting

[@ixnates]

my bad (was it the gojo thing)

[@stale_cheeto]

@@ixnates I was more disappointed about the one piece stuff than anything else lol

[@ixnates]

@@stale_cheeto fair enough

[@danthespaceman9747]

RE ZERO MENTIONED RAHHHHHHH!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@KiraiKatsuji]

I write to pain the possibility of the power so much that i can't just put a wall of text into story as it would be too long, so i keep a second page for each characters powers as a backup knowledge to not forget anything.

[@airborne19j]

You should check out Brandon Sanderson. This dude is the best I've seen at consistently developing good power or magic systems. His stories often times have clearly defined systems with upper and lower limits and alot of times even have multiple separate power systems going on. He has a lot of lectures and videos going around talking about his design philosophy.

[@ampisbadatthis]

in terms of martial arts fights, dont forget that one of the most popular martial arts styles is Hóu Quán (monkey kung fu) and the goal of most forms of it is not actually to win fights, but to annoy your opponent until they forfeit or drain their energy so they cant hit you while you take fast jabs and keep distance, and techniques from the art are applied in styles like northern praying mantis

[@Bjjboxing]

While I didn't finish this video, I feel compelled to pause and share my thoughts. The concept of a power ceiling doesn't always need to be shown early in a story. Each power system operates within its own unique context, and the absence of a clearly defined power ceiling isn't necessarily a flaw. It's a matter of understanding the context and the reasons behind it. Now for your Naruto analysis in terms of its power system. You get so much wrong when there could be good critiques of it. For example, Kakashi's use of kaumi later in the series(An argument can be made that he got stronger/a mental amp after his father died). But you go down the laziest arguments possible without saying anything that is an actual critique. When we understand the power system's full context, you say stuff feels out of place. What does this even mean? Wouldn't that mean earlier stuff makes sense? You don't give an example you suggest an idea and act as if it is true. When we are shown giant animals destroying things when we are introduced to the story. You draw a false equivalency to the idea of a ninja being sneaky to the war arc. The only ninjas in the ninja world that are entirely stealth-oriented are the anbu, not the regular ninja. The regular ninjas have aspects of it, but they are multi-purpose, as shown by the very first mission in the story(escort mission). Then you say punch the city and destroy everything. What is this about? During the chunin exams this happens, stuff like this happens when Pain attacks, when the nine-tails attacks. People attack villages, which usually means the village must fight back. You act like this is a critique but just the reality of their world. What does the strongest being young have to do with the power system losing its appeal? It is established that the younger generation gets stronger. Do you know why? Because the older generation can guide them. There are older characters like Guy, Kakashi, A, Killer Bee, Madara, Hashirama, Obito, etc, who are all pretty strong. The exceptions are Naruto and Sasuke, who are just exceptional for obvious reasons. The whole part of a genin is just lazy as well. Naruto did not retake the chunin exams. When he comes back in part two he sees everyone is chunin. This is more of a title and Naruto is clearly not just some regular genin. Sasuke also left when he was a genin. This video is so low effort in terms of the analysis part.

[@jessicaberry5596]

You mention Re:Zero yet you won't elaborate, I need elaboration!

[@ScritRighter]

No!

[@Billyblue98]

13:45 You can bury Super Saiyan 2 when you pry it from my cold dead hands

[@ryangarcia8247]

Man, I really needed this video! I'm writing a web novel with superpowers and all that, and keeping the power system stable is being one of my major worries. Oftentimes, I find myself thinking of all those epic fights between the characters I created (and that I'm planning to make happen), only to stop myself all of a sudden once I notice it's getting too flashy for the premise of the power system. A character of mine will hardly be capable of exploding a building to dust, even less with a single attack, and if they manage to, they're Peak-of-The-Scale, in-universe... SO WHY CAN'T I STOP IMAGINING JUJUTSU KAISEN-STYLE FIGHTS?! AAAAAGH!

[@kaisac.]

You can still have fights be flashy or cool while while keeping things within the limits of what you want. Someone like spiderman can have flashy fight scenes due to his mobility while not being able to nuke a city with a punch. They can be as dynamic as other action you like while keeping the power level lower.

[@ryangarcia8247]

@@kaisac. I know, but that's not really the issue. I'm struggling on how to properly conceptualize gains of power and how to make the characters stronger (kinda tempted to fall into the "ascend to godhood" trap he mentioned).

[@mementomori7160]

Very beginning "one of the most interesting power systems", shows demon slayer XD Anyway, the topic seems interesting so I'm watching further giggling under my nose Ok, it was interesting and expanded my views a bit, also, I love JJK and all your comments about it are so right

[@fwflygon14]

I think you should read worm by wildbow its about superhero and supervillans how they use powers in the series is kind of insane. Its all strategy and they build on it with the help of other powers. A good read

[@lolkollkj]

Bro you made some good points like the naruto one and interesting points to add on to the abilities to an element. But I disagree mostly on the jjk one, the prison realm was teased in episode 1 to stop gojo’soverpowered nature. Sukuna was just recently spawned so we didn’t know who was stronger in till that final battle where sukuna had set up a plan to bypass infinity to kill gojo it was still a close fight. The take on different abilities being too much for the audience I just generally disagree on. The power system in jjk is explained good “but the techniques weren’t fleshed out” but wouldn’t it be boring for more people to have the same basic moves also I’m pretty sure every ability was atleast shown most of their capabilities. Also I don’t think you should critique a power system if you didn’t even watch or read the anime/manga to get a full grasp on it

[@redninja3056]

Says you that naruto point was terrible and is way better then jjk

[@thebadger622]

2:38 That's actually something Stan "The Man" Lee cited. As long as you are a writer, you decide who wins. Especially with OC's

[@hiroprotagonist9018]

Shout out to referencing (though you say its 3 and not 2) the star wars incident that irrevocably ruined my ability to enjoy the series. To be fair this was also done in the graphic novel series that introduced the galaxy gun - but that was somewhat plausible still and the didn't necessarily ruin the ship to ship combat. (Actually the moment the M-Falcon went through the Starkiller Base's shield was another one) I hate this moment because it is honestly so perfectly executed while being such a terrible idea for future stories due to the pandora's box (as you say) it opens. Worst moment in SW history in my opinion, but I have a hard rule against allowing FTL collisions in my fiction. (yes, this includes the relativistic punch Flash - as much as I love some of the paradoxes around Flash stories) Also Pokemon demonstrated that attacks can kill - look at the first movie where Ash literally dies.

[@dbcx777]

There are many people dedending naruto and dbz, but you spoke tge truth and i hardly agree. Thanks for video.

[@Flufferpup]

I tend to try and not think too much about powers, how strong they are, and how they work. Mainly because ultimately, the power that characters have is a completely arbitrary value assigned to them so that those characters can have their stories told. They're exactly as strong as they need to be for the story to happen. You can make any ass pull you want, even something as cliche as the power of friendship, so long as it makes for a good story and doesn't directly contradict established rules. The powers exist to serve the story, not the other way around.

[@VengeanceGD]

Just to tell you something. The rankings such as Genin and Chunin, they don’t just measure on how strong you are, but rather on how experienced you are. Let’s bring Iruka into this, He was much stronger than characters like Sasuke and Naruto (without the chakra mark and Nine tails chakra) throughout Part 1, but was heavily outpaced due to the powerscaling in Naruto (in Part 2) having a higher ceiling due to other antagonists (Akatsuki and others later down the rode) for Team 7 to strive into becoming stronger in the show. Iruka is experienced, but he wasn’t strong enough to be a Jonin. You can also take Kakashi into this, he himself stated in the beginning of the chunin exams that he became a jonin at the age of 7, due to his experience with others in his missions along with him being a prodigy, which shows that characters such as Itachi and Shisui were more than likely to reach this level in Konoha (which they did). The rankings in Naruto DO matter, as they do show how strong and experienced you can be, which everyone in the show (in shippuden) was chunin or Jonin (such as Temari and Kankuro).

[@onesmart229]

4:45 in early Naruto Haku is stated to be stronger than Kakashi and Zabuza. Kakashi says there can always be someone younger and stronger than you. This is one of the things that makes the power system more intriguing not less so.

[@ashisakiashikubi6597]

I remember once making a story based in the MHA verse where i made a character with the skills to control temperature. And i tried to actually make it interesting, because he knew he could make temperature go up or down. The thing was how often could he do it. Until later in the story, he discovered he could chance temperature quick enough to cause a shock in someone else's body. Exagerating it a bit, imagine your body going from 100°C to -100°C in 2 seconds or less, a skill that's literally fucking deadly

[@charnalk5572]

ngl the pokemon exemples are horrendous

[@ScritRighter]

How so?

[@charnalk5572]

Ignoring the point about the games (following turn based rules and all, and competitive literally working on regulations or fan banlists and restrictions), the Pandora Box point does not work at all with the manga and anime. Both the anime and manga imply and talk about fatal wounds in battle but never commit to it either. The exemple of Psyduck in context is basically a lifeless doll that only exists to take the damages, but the damages themselves never matter (it's a zombi puppet that decomposes either way, and the paneling will just lie to you about what was actually hit). Pokemon will be pierced, cut in half or heavily damaged only if they can regenerated (Deoxys getting half of its body blown off, or manga related, Arbok getting cut in half only for it to just regenerate) or it not mattering (hitting an image, a clone, or an element of the environment and in the most aggregeous exemples in both the manga and the anime, consequences being completely ignored and reversed like Celebi completely skipping over character death in the RS arc immediately after said characters deaths or Ash getting resurrected in the first movie and any movie with death in there after it).

[@ScritRighter]

@@charnalk5572 I'm not sure how this conflicts with the points I made about power scaling. Pokemon Adventures does good power scaling, and it opens a pandora's box the franchise typically tries to avoid (ie, Pokemon death). Showing us a zombie psyduck's face melting shows the audience what can happen if they get hit with the attack. Just as a guy ducking out of the way of a brick-shattering punch shows us how dangerous the punch was without ending the fight. The Pandora's box is that Pokemon can die, and Pokemon Adventures doesn't need to slaughter a bunch of Pokemon in front of us to convey that or use it. They just need to address it as apart of the stakes for their battles and tell us how they work around it.

[@charnalk5572]

@@ScritRighter Pokemon in fact nevers avoided Pokemon death lmao,what it avoids is following through with it. Doesn't matter that said wall breaks after a punch, if when it connects to a character with a durability lower than said wall there's suddenly no damage. Hydro pump doing massive damage to Staryu, despite the type effectiveness indicating the opposite. And yet Bulbasaur will take no dammage from said attack because... of type affinity, in the exact same chapter? The Pokemon manga has really poor scaling and is on par with the anime in that regard (oh look, the affinity to which this Pokemon is immune to does not matter anymore now that we need the protagonist to win. This is actually worse in the manga because the anime at least justified Onix as being soaked, the manga on the other hand has it work because Red gave friendship speech), it mostly goes off of vibe (some have decent explanations, other just work until they don't until they suddenly work again). P.S: I forgot to specify this, but no it did not melt Psyduck's face (and this really makes me you didn't really read poke spe and just went off of the cheap shock value memes). Again, the Psyduck you're talking about (and showed in the video) is a different one, it's corpse of a psyduck that was already decomposed (the one hit with the acid was not shown melted, just acid on its head).

[@amongstus4418]

@@charnalk5572 I also think about the scene in Pokemon The Origin where Squirtle bites Charmander on the neck, trashing him about and the fire on his tail starts to dim out (Literally showing he's dying). Pokemon battles are just supposed to be like Boxing where you end the fight before it becomes life threatening but clearly they can go too far.

[@Bruh_bruh-d7s]

I originally didn't think I would like your channel because of the monogatari slander but I was just being a bitch, love your videos bro❤

[@Keylyon]

In my main story (im also writing a one-shot, but this is a bigger series when I am fully ready to write that lol) I have no problem with power scaling, as the powers I have already have a height they can go and not go beyond. I am nerfing one character though, for the sole reason that he is too op, but will be present more in the second part of the story. In actuality he isnt nerfed, but he has gotten a mental block in his head making him think he is not powerful, due to a stone that was said to contain his powers been taken away. Furthermore he has learned himself to store a bit of his power so he can use it later so he thinks he is using up that bit. His powers do come back at a moment where they are needed, cause the villain of the story needs that power against it to be stopped and even with that, it isnt a fair fight, not because the villain is that strong, but because he basically has the power that makes him be able to prepare for litterly anything. My world is alive in my head and I cannot accept a stupid reason for a character to win a fight, thats why I am still struggling with how another fight will go, BECAUSE IT IS REALISTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR THIS GUY TO WIN AGAINST THE OTHER GUY. So I will need something that can make the one character beat the other without being beaten himself... SIGH back to thinking

[@Bloxfruitsistrashlmaocope]

Power-scaling in anime and fiction in GENERAL is SUPER important, if the power systems, mechanics and relationships in fiction that have fighting are inconsistent or just flat out stupid it can practically ruin the whole thing

[@Bmaj9090]

ok but i’m a newgen

[@rubenbigbro9005]

22:00 nah not my OC he’s built different he will freeze the fire, that’s how cool he is 😎

[@oc_2651]

Why does your editor seem to have beef with JoJo like we were going to let that slide

[@ScritRighter]

It's a show lmao

[@oc_2651]

@@ScritRighter can you ask him?

[@onesmart229]

13:41 you already called it a kamikaze so you acknowledge that in that scene the characters in the smaller ship talk about how it is risky and they could die. Kamikaze attacks aren’t to popular in real war as you acknowledge it takes a maniac to do something like that.

[@SapoloMuhammad]

Krillin hit Goku with a rock on his head and it hurt because he wasn’t prepared the same way they can hide power levels they can be compressed if their not powered up

[@SapoloMuhammad]

*compromised

[@VooshSpokesman]

Love from a MothersBasement and Vaush fan!

[@markd.9042]

The thing about this for manga is that writers can't just take time to reflect. The workload and time constraints make this hard. That's why HxH is doing well in its endeavors, because Togashi who is already respected because of Yu Yu Hakasho has the ability to take hiatuses more frequently. That's why Berserk had consistently amazing art, and never went downhill like we see many manga do, the hiatuses help. Most mangaka, especially big shonen mangaka, don't have the ability to do this that often, they can't take too many breaks. Look at Gege, who's taking some breaks a lot recently. If Jujutsu Kaisen wasn't in huge demand and coming to a close to the end (at least the end of part one) it may have been cancelled.

[@SUPPAcHERO]

Damn, with that type chart the Fire-type is still the strongest type.

[@thedarknessinthelight9824]

I was gonna comment about Gojo but your description with Kaara was too hilarious 💀 Atleast you put the King of Frauds in his place. "I absolve you of your sins. You have been forgiven..."

[@Gokuknows]

Scary enough, my world has 20 cosmologies, each cosmology has 5 sub levels, and yes, there is also the "boundless cosmos" in there, it is real big, but i am still working on how my magic systems and power scale would work, because i an still beginning the story, like i'm still out there in the prologue and can't even continue the story properly right now, so i hope to make the system better (deadass, concept of systems be making the things up). Well, in my magic power scaling, i will simply use a reference, on how i scale it. Example: Force applied × mana applied + stamina applied by % 15 kilotons of TNT × 100,000 mana = 1.5m KT TNT 1.5m + 200 stamina = 3m KT TNT Yes, this is how my world works, because planets are crazy big by default, 5 billion KM diameter at minimum (it can be lower via other factors, and yes, the cosmology is plain big as hell so even universal worlds has to adapt to the ever expanding boundless cosmos.) The most average stats that an adult human is: Strength: (by tons) Base: 100 Peak: 500 Limit break: 1000 Durability: 10000 (by tons) Speed: 100 (km/s) Mana: 10000 Magic mastery: 10 Everyone in my world has to be more durable than they are strong, because a strength higher than their own durability and you will see them rip themselves apart, logically. At normal scale, strength will only be 1/20 of the durability, 1/10 is dangerous, it can put serious self harm. Durability = mana amount, this can change based on many factors, because normally, higher mana than durability will cause their mana to overflow and will actually put serious harm to the victim, the mana overflow can be alleviated by magic mastery though, but with no training put in it, magic mastery will be baseline "low" Lastly, humans have to be this strong at average, my world is full of hellish dangers, with the worsest ones being the apocalyptic anomalies, my MC is an anomaly by the way, a concept defier to be exact, so she is strong, but not far above other powerful beings, for as far as i know, the "average" stats you can see is merely the surface of what potential they have, soul ability, spirit ability, innate ability, talents and core weapons, made from their core forces are some of the many factors that makes the certain being actually dangerous, these core forces also grows with the user. So basically, I can't afford to have a powerful character with no hardwork included, magic mastery is there for a reason, and those stats that i made up, those things are still the lowest of the lows. Limits: here comes the most brutal part, with great power, comes with great toll on your life, your core forces, despite the fact that these core forces that every being have originated in the boundless cosmos, these forces rely on the certain thing that possess it, so these forces may save you, but not all the time, there will always be limitations as the concept of inhibition does it. When using magic with no mana left, it will consume life force, immortality and invincibility is not saving you from this, infinite energy is still the surface of what the higher powers out there has, infinite energy is merely universal level, it's not even close. Skills and tactics matter the most, even if you are stronger, if you don't know how to deal with trickery and the art of confusion, you are but a fodder, what's the point of power without properly using it? that being said, "skills are there for a reason." "There will always be a way to deal with something, boundless? they are no exception, you can be boundless but you have to remember that even if you are lonely, you are not alone." Control is everything, make sure to use your very own as an advantage, or else, it will go against you. And yes, to me, skills and tactics > power, power does not decrease weaknesses, but skills and tactics does. I will not include core forces, and the whereabouts about soul abilities, spirit abilities, innate abilities, talents and core weapons, because as the video says it, these things i have are convoluted power scalings, these things need over explanations and will never get close to exaggeration since they legitimately need *"explanation"*

[@OctupleEntedre]

W self story analysis

[@kuhluhOG]

I have one more thing to add about mostly the power scaling community: Comparing characters from different characters is (in Shounen) often straight up impossible. A lot of Shounen for some reason at some point open the Pandorra's box of "faster than light" movement, or punches, or similar. There are quite a few problems, when that happens: 1. You can't use our laws of Physics to start calculating stuff. Why? Well, there are quite a few reasons: 1.1 The relativistic formula of kinetic energy (which you need to start using when the speed is faster than 10% of the speed of light) is this (I use LaTeX syntax here, if somebody is interested): E_{kin} = \sqrt{(p c)^2 + (m_0 c^2)^2} - m_0 c^2 where c is the speed of light, m_0 is the mass of the object at rest and p is linear momentum. The relativistic formula for linear momentum is: p = m_0 v \gamma where m_0 is the mass of the object at rest, v is the speed of the object and \gamma is the Lorentz factor. The formula of the Lorentz factor is \gamma = \frac{1}{\sqrt{1 - \frac{v^2}{c^2}}} where v is the speed of the object and c is the speed of light. If you actually start to use that formula for an object for an object AT the speed of light, you will get a division by zero. If you use it for something faster than the speed of light, you get a negative imaginary result (you know what complex numbers are, don't you?). What's that even supposed to mean? Another problem you will get is that the comparison of imaginary numbers with real numbers is mathematically undefined. 1.2 Ok, Let's just say that the speed of light in that universe is faster than in ours. You get a different problems: Our atoms wouldn't be able to hold themselves together if the speed of light would be faster. That means that in that universe you would need to change pretty much every universal constant for stuff to just exist. At that point you can't even be sure that lifting a pen is of the same effort in that and our universe. 1.3 As far as our physicists know, it's impossible for something which is slower than the speed of light to reach it. And the same goes the other way around. That's why the whole idea of the Alcubierre drive (or as it's better known: warp drive) exists: Instead of moving yourself faster, you make the amount of distance you need to travel less. 1.4 Let's say we ignore the problems listed so far. What would happen if somebody would move faster than the speed of light: Simple, you would travel back in time., congratulation of opening the Pandorra's box of breaking causality. 2. How would you even react to that? Let's just say the fist of an enemy is moving FTL, the information about that is moving slower than the fist. How would you even start dodging it? The enemy hits you before the light of that fist reaches your eyes. Maybe you send the info back in time? Well, that breaks causality, so you send back in time that you were hit, so that you aren't hit, but if you weren't hit, why would you send that info back in time? But if you don't, you get hit. 3. You would literally obliterate the atmosphere of whatever planet you are on if you only get close to it. Congratulations, you just set the atmosphere of the planet on fire, literally.

[@SpookyPancakes]

Earlier than I thought I could be.

[@GeorgeDCowley]

6:40 Reminds me of the opening of Pacific Rim. 7:00 Some franchises have skill variation, but you don't get much rock-paper-scissors. 10:15 That's almost exactly what you criticized Naruto for. 14:30 Intrinsic ones, then. 18:00 Partly because of the general lack of atrophy. 18:40 Odd you didn't use All Might here.

[@i0am0superBlast]

I do wonder if powerscaling show could learn lessons from the good "MC so strong you have zero doubt that could win almost effortlessly". One punch man for example. The narrative focus is usually very different (usually the fights are more comical than serious). Though I do imagine that there's something there that could make the narrative of typical battle shounen more interesting. I mean you could probably do that for any kind of show honestly if you know what you are doing.

[@psebb3502]

this demotivated me tons this just feels like common sense, looking for something in this video which i get any value of is like finding a needle in a haystack and some of the arguements for "bad power scaling" is up to interpretation or just flat out wrong

[@GhettoFabulousLorch]

> Vertical, Horizontal, and Depth Scaling > Leo sitting up, snapping, pointing, and whistling I thought of the exact same model for years. Glad to see someone else teach the same conclusion.

[@isaiahthomas6744]

I like the video overall but I think you missed the mark on the Naruto bit. Yes the power scaling go a bit wonky towards the end but it was never something about espionage and even by the end of the series. Naruto and sasuke are the only ones that are genin that are stronger than a jonin. Up until then jonin even in shippuden are still considered the strongest characters. Also team 7 are the only ones who could be considered the strongest in the series as teens, but every other heavy hitter is an adult. The series makes a point that experience and tactics will outweigh raw power as most of the jonin adults can handle the mc until the end of the series.

[@jwilsthem.c3780]

I would say I definitely disagree with your point about Naruto. The ninja would use espionage as to not start issues with other villages. And they've been shooting giant fireballs and summoning kaiju since the beginning of the series Naruto made a forest full of shadow clones in the first arc they've always had these insane powers. And while as the comment about them being a lot closer to Battle wizards or Martial Art mages is definitely true it's always been like that And even up to the last fight in the series with all the incredibly powerful world shattering ninja they were still using strategy and tactics to defeat their opponents. The Juubito fight is them exhausting as many strategies as they can think of to defeat him and many more examples of this exist. The powers themselves are just on a larger scale than Then the beginning of the series and people mistake that for a lack of strategy but the strategy is very much still there.

[@noboundariesburnhws]

I feel like sukuna vs gojo is more of cunningness and intelligence of jujutsu vs someone just blessed with god abilities. Sukuna spent the entire series analyzing gojo’s techniques trying to learn how to bypass infinity. Wold cutting slash felt very earned and not like an asspull powerup

[@kingaxolotl4970]

"Luffy Clears Out Both Of Them :/ - Editor" a smart man.

[@chewhatif4745]

Your Naruto point is misleading. Even up to the war arc tactics were very much used it just when you reach the the pinnacle of world you can destroy whole city. I.e guy and kakashi against white mask obito, sasuke vs dedara, and so on do we forget that Naruto summoned a kaiju in the second arc of the show or how the 3rd made a contract with death or how orchimaru brought the dead back to life. People need to stop acting like Naruto was ever these ground non-fictional ninja when the first major battle we see in kakashi vs zabuza in which they meet in an open field and cause a mini tsunami. Yall act like they supposed to be real ninja in black jumpsuit, like they’re clearly a fictional version of what we know as ninja😂

[@charnalk5572]

A lot of his points are misleading or completely disingenuous if not contradictory depending on what he wants to say in the moment. It's honestly not a good video, it's completely inconsistent. "Why won't ninja just destroy X or Y village" is like asking why we don't nuke X or Y state... Most obvious answer is fear of escalation, and that's forgetting that those powers are exceedingly rare and/or impractical to use. Naruto has a lot of flaws, but people pretending that the power ceiling was broken in Shippuden like the story didn't start with the manga telling us that the nine tails was so strong it was casually leveling moutains is disingenuous af.

[@lmao2302]

@@charnalk5572 I mean tbf there's a huge difference between like every ninja in the village jumping one giant beast and one human being having that sort of power. Like yeah it talks about the Nine tails destroying mountains but a literal line later it talks about the all shinobi clans being gathered. We didn't even see how they managed to entrap his soul into Naruto till mid way through shippuden where the powerscaling was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay bigger than early series.

[@charnalk5572]

@@lmao2302 And yet the manga also establishes that one single man sacrificed himself to seal said beast. And it was not in Shippuden either. Later addition actually even added more nuance to the situation, the Kyuubi attack would've been qualmed instantly had the village allowed genjutsu users to control it. They did not want the Uchiha nowhere near it because they suspected it to be controlled to begin with.

[@773Spair]

(I haven't watched the video as of the submission of this comment) This issue, in addition to characters' skills and intuition, is a reason why I'm unconfident in writing stories focusing on combat, including some combat, or at least including some actions of conflict.

[@internetlurker1850]

For the ice power, one thing you could also do is make them utilize ice in a different way. For example, covering the fire in a blanket of snow will render it unable to get oxygen and thus fizzle out, or even just a regular blanket. Or fire off fast moving, bullets of ice that pierce through the fire as they are solids going through a gas at rapid speeds, which would let the ice hit the target before it melts. Or just making a gigantic rock of ice that when melted into water will cover the person with said water, and their fires as well, thus making said person defeat themselves even if you can't control that water. This is of course, assuming that the fire is strong enough to fight back against the ice, I don't actually get why in a lot of stories for some reason ice is weaker at dealing with fire than water is?? It is an incredibly cold chunk of water-rock. You can just hit somebody covered in the head with it and nothing will change, the ice won't immediately be reduced to nothing, it will still remain fine, just hit them over the head with the ice. Chuck it at them. Can't do nothing, unless the fire is strong enough to immediately turn the ice into normal water, which as said, I'll be assuming that is the case.

[@thedarksaucelord1780]

I can't believe psyduck melted like that

[@bijuutamer729]

Hunter C Hunter literally introduces the way that it breaks its power structure. Nen contracts which let Kurapika get a BS win over Uvogin.

[@motivatedman4630]

By a technique that's only usable against spiders and breaking that rule instantly kills Kurapika.

[@bijuutamer729]

@@motivatedman4630 that means nothing. Same like Gon making a Nen contract and getting healed by Alluka. People need to stop praising a series that so blatantly breaks its own rules.

[@motivatedman4630]

@@bijuutamer729 For Gon, his contract was great. Alluka is what you should be complaining about, she appeared practically out of nowhere and was conveniently conntected to Killua enough for his wish to be free. Even then, Gon can no longer use Nen even after being healed by deus ex Alluka. As for Kurapika, chain jail pact means he is limiting the usage of his own ability to a very limited group of individuals. He limits his strongest ability as well. Of course plot-wise it is irrelevant because we won't see Kurapika's whole life after killing the Spiders, but in-verse it works. HxH set it up, restrictions are multipliers of one's power, the harsher the consequence for breaking the rule are, the stronger the buff is. Chain Jail forcibly puts the target in Zetsu, meaning their nen strength becomes useless. The buff that mattered to Kurapika here was Chain's literal durability to contain Uvogin's raw strength. Uvogin was destined to lose. And Nen contracts are great. They're pretty consistent and are all well explained.

[@adam.e2154]

Dude. Idk if you still read the comment section on this older video but please, PLEASE, read World Trigger. In my humble opinion, it has the best power system I've read. That probably doesnt mean much but you have to read it because... 1. The power system legitimately can't be overstepped. You cant gain much more power than what you're given at birth. And... 2. The battles are logical and tactical. The weakest power user can take out the one with the most power just because of excellent planning. It's still progressing so maybe it may do some classic shonen things but, with the way the author writes it and the themes of the story, I don't see that happening at all.

[@theMemeDetective]

then it's not a character with ice powers. it's a character with either waterpower or tempter manipulation. in opposition to that the colder ice would be better for a pure ice user like permafrost or dry ice and other ice related things that are dangerous. if we give an ice user water then steam then why would they use ice in interesting ways instead of water. that's a pandoras box from your own words. if you want "depth scaling" you can't go too far away from the origins of a character's power, or it will feel like "horizontal scaling". by saying a character that was introduced with ice powers has control over tempter or water without good foreshadowing will most definitely seem like an asspull in it of itself. and if a character is revealed to not have ice powers but tempter manipulation, they a whole new bag of questions come. why wasn't he using the more effective fire attacks. why did he just learn about this now. why does he think he only has control over ice till *event* happens

[@Ch1l1C0nCarnag3]

If you plan to have your story eventually reach God-like power scaling, have the Gods be introduced early into the story. They don't need to be antagonistic or even majorly relevant, they just need to exist. That alone prevents the issue of your power system just jumping to levels that can break a reader's suspension of disbelief, because you've already put the idea into their mind that this is where it CAN go.

[@domehammer]

FTL doesn't work in a way in Star Wars, you enter hyperspace which is a separate dimension. The hyperspace ram scene makes no sense.

[@iMizutsune]

Sakamoto would defeat Six Paths Naruto inside a 7-11.

[@OnlyLiarGameFan]

I honestly don't think you know what power scailing even is. You seem to use power system and power scailing interchangeably.

[@aaz.2007]

You can't even spell scaling, I doubt you know what that is either. Power system literally is apart of power scaling too lol

[@OnlyLiarGameFan]

@@aaz.2007 It's literally not, dawg.

[@aaz.2007]

@@OnlyLiarGameFan The purpose of a power system is to *scale* the **power** of its respective characters and to set ground rules for in-verse logic. Powerscaling isn't necessarily dictating who's stronger than who. That's battleboarding which is under powerscaling. You're thinking about battleboarding.

[@OnlyLiarGameFan]

@@aaz.2007 I believe you're quite mistaken. A power system is *solely* a set of supernatural abilities that the characters of a fictional work possesses. Also, you can just delete that entire second paragraph, as you're just fighting ghosts at this point.

[@aaz.2007]

@@OnlyLiarGameFan 1. your definition still means *scaling* the powers of characters. not just that, your definition ALSO lacks the full meaning 2. i don't care