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We finally dial in the Bilstein bypass shocks on our 2018 Jeep Wrangler JLUR and use the opportunity to explain why most off-the-shelf shocks don't perform as well as they should off road. And, of course, how to make your suspension behave the way it should off road!
Hope you all enjoy the video!

[@rockyp544]

In reality tho, most local shops will look at you like dear in headlights if you ask them to do this.

[@LiteBrite]

Very true. I would definitely not trust most shops to mess with the valving on a shock, you have to find an actual shock tuner.

[@chainring_tattoo]

This video should be required viewing for anyone that plans on spending money on a suspension. You can pour all the money you want into it, but if it isn't set up for your rig and your use, it's a total waste of money. And yeah, I loved the final fly by.

[@A1AJake]

I can see a huge difference in the ride just by watching. Mind blown and educated all in one video.

[@yjjeeper1]

Your knowledge of mechanics is always impressive lady!

[@ericpiepmeier8552]

I can support that claim of properly tuned shocks. The foster child is straight up magic!

[@LiteBrite]

I almost included a suggestion of people asking you for ride alongs if they saw the foster child. Lol

[@ericpiepmeier8552]

@@LiteBrite by all means do so lol. I’d be more than happy to show people the magic that is the foster child

[@monkeyman41333]

Wes, man of many words, lets his actions do the talking. Obviously knows his stuff.

[@jesseruiz708]

Nice to put a face to the tec support I didn't get...and now I understand why,,,he is one of the king shit around, so ego is strong in that being,,,lol,, and you can pay as much or more than the shock to get set up probably,,, lol wheelbarrow of $ gets it all done,,, " Jes-Se- Out-&-Into- The- Real " " Jes-Se- R- U- I- Z 👁" " Jesse Ruiz "

[@monkeyman41333]

@@jesseruiz708 Not a clue what you Te ranting about?

[@OverlandbyEric]

Never seen Kevin in back seat . It’s really interesting 🤔. Also you pronounce beilstein in German pronunciation. That’s the right way in my opinion.

[@elpablo99]

At about 2:10 or so I thought "OMG, this video is going to cost me a small fortune"

[@juanjr1213]

I learned so much with this video, glad to know if I get shocks and they don’t ride good that I need to tune them. Keep up them great videos 👍👍👍👍

[@dougg8280]

Great info. How was the old Metalcloak and 6Pak shocks set up? I would love a comparison. Stock to Metalcloak to current

[@accutuneoffroad]

Properly tuned shocks is definitely the way to go. Nice job, the Jeep looks super fast!

[@jonathanliebe1084]

AccTune, You guys need a video with your lift and some triple bypass tuned. I’ve been waiting for you guys to do this.

[@accutuneoffroad]

@@jonathanliebe1084 Yea, we've been getting a little too picky with our Fox 3.0 Bypass shocks. We have some video, but still perfecting them.

[@LiteBrite]

Definitely! This should hopefully bring light to tuning suspension setups and bring business to companies like yours

[@jonathanliebe1084]

@@LiteBrite great video and game changer for me when I started tuning. Once I dialed high speed and low speed, I ended up turning rebound when I had extra weight or passengers on my X3.

[@accutuneoffroad]

@@LiteBrite It sure does. Like you mentioned, tunable shocks are expensive and without them being tuned... its sorta a waste. Good luck out at KOH!

[@ceecee2485]

With the captions on, the computer hears the sound of the V8 as {music}. I don't disagree...

[@LiteBrite]

Seriously? That’s very fitting.

[@arronclark711]

So more videos of Kevin in the backseat bobbing around. Grab that steering wheel girl and take him on a E ticket ride....just dated myself with that.

[@danarteritano1340]

WOW, what a difference, the body was steady on last pass on the bumpy trail, so cool

[@theruralrider938]

That HEMI sounds A M A Z I N G!!!

[@tumbleweedking5668]

Had a 2015 challenger sct pack with the 6.4 hemi amazing 177mph car.

[@boldrbangr9834]

11:0 Badassiness! Looks like Kevin was drifting through that left hander. Jelly Nation merch! 😜

[@streetbeast4x455]

That hemi powered Jeep is awesome that fly by was next level great video guys

[@joshbuck5877]

Step child looks amazing through the woops and that high speed pass was the best 👌 love you guys and have shit tons of fun ❤

[@stevenrailey9204]

so now that the shocks are tuned, how does that work for low speed and crawling?

[@Grumpy_old_Boot]

I remember when I was but a kid, I drove RC controlled cars semi competitively. (I raced a Blue Eagle LS from Traxxas, one of the first long arm race trucks) I was on this one track with a bunch of whoops that it kept slapping it's rear end on. Turns out, I had put the wrong weight oil in my front shocks, so the damping was very weak, and the springs very strong. So every time it compressed, it rebounded like mad pushing the front end up, This rotated the car, so the front went up, and the rear went down. Thus the rear ended up going where the front end had just been, the rear end would plow into the whoops a moment later. Ended up putting thicker oil in the front shocks, and also lowering the spring rate a little bit, and it just flowed over the whoops after that. _It was a good lesson in how big a difference, a few small changes can make._ On a sidenote : Dang you guys must go through a lot of permanent markers ? 😁

[@z3lot]

Got it get everything you need on the rig first bumpers, rocksliders, rooftop tent, bed rack, and etc then tune it.

[@miguelitojeep]

Great video! Tuned shocks make a huge difference, AccuTune Offroad did killer job on the Fox coilovers on my Jeep!

[@JustinKingOffroad]

my shocks totally suck offroad and I know it haha

[@AntiPattern328]

All I need is a sponsorship with Bilstein and my shocks wouldn't suck anymore!

[@JL392_Adventurer]

Great educational video on how important it is to tune your shocks, because every rigs are different in many ways. 👍👍👍

[@Bullfighter6262]

How much does it cost to have a person come out and drive and tune your vehicles shocks. Seems like it would be extremely expensive to have an employee with a rig to do this testing and adjustment. Looking for a ball park cost. Thanks.

[@LiteBrite]

I’m not sure if he tunes for customers or just their racer program. But generally, bing a tuner come to you is much more expensive. Taking your rig to them can save some money, but cost honestly varies a lot depending on the who, what, and where.

[@robertmarez3195]

So awesome video..taking the time and explaining the value of the shocks and seeing the difference, when tuned......Stepchild is amazing.....Keep up the excellent times.....egarly awaiting your next video.....Safe travels

[@jacobchav]

i had a feeling the fox shocks that i have should do better... i’ll have to look into shock tuning now! :)

[@morgancook6481]

I hate you guys 😂😂😂 J/K, that last shot was AMAZING!!! I NEED A Hemi in my Jeep!!!

[@GATORADDAM]

Now if only we could tune women to perform properly! (Oh, I'm gonna catch some crap for that remark!) Haha.

[@CJLane-62]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍🤣👍👍👍👍👍

[@calvinh.8882]

I remember when shock tuning consisted of adding more shocks. lol.

[@LiteBrite]

😅🤣

[@jaxtraxtv]

Kevin: I know ya like how that hemi sounds. Me(at home say out loud): hell yes i do kevin! ha!!!!! the drive by was of course for cool factor!

[@jjansen987]

Great video topic! Definitely a need to know video!

[@alanpowell9459]

Good info. Love seeing vehicles get signed. I display your signatures proudly on my Jeep. Keep rocking it.

[@LiteBrite]

❤️🤙

[@darrenwilkins8702]

Can you have Wes stop by my house and tune my new Bilstein shocks, I had hoped to improve my ride quality but I can only just barely tell a difference. I am disappointed that they didn’t make more of a difference.

[@LiteBrite]

Depending on the type of shock and application, you might be able to adjust them on your own. The Stepchild is a perfect example of how the weight of a vehicle can play a huge role in the performance of a shock (she’s heavy up front but light in the back)

[@chaspears22]

Love yall.... thanks for the entertainment and knowledge

[@whoeever]

Now the hard part is finding a shock tuner. All the Aussies shops have shock tuners but I fear that that guy and his trailer is the only shock tuner in America LOL.

[@LiteBrite]

Nah. There’s a few of them and a few companies

[@tcrasey]

I am impressed with the BILSTEIN group. After looking them up on the web, watching the factory tour and how the are willing to sponsor you, I can see what a great group they are!

[@stevevonseggern6934]

Hey Thanks!

[@yepitsme431]

Dont be fooled, they are sponsored; try to find spare parts/tuning/warranty on your own for a set of bilstein and you Will see and understand why fox/king are the choice of everyone from recreational to full on pro/factory teams

[@tcrasey]

@@yepitsme431 I watch there channel, I know they are sponsored! I like the BILSTEIN company because of the way they treat their employees and the way their employees speak of of the company.

[@yepitsme431]

@@tcrasey I can respect that BUT as a customer i could not care less about the corporate policy with their emplyees, i just want a quality product (wich they have), parts availability (wich they DONT have) and at least a decent customer service whenever you need them (wich they lack too). thats whym again companys like FOX, Kings shocks, ADS and others its the choice of preference, thats my only gripe with them.. and i will like to own a set of the 8125 coilovers but past/recent experience with them steers my away

[@Xasukis]

I want you two to adopt me

[@Krondor03]

That Hemi though... Yes, a tuned set of shocks is on the wishlist. Great video guys.

[@AC-hq7ce]

Love Bilstein shocks! Run them on all my rigs! Keep up the good work and good luck at the KOH!!

[@kingranch8516]

When the Jeep is a rockin......😉. Awesome guys love the info. learned what I’m doing next. Thanks

[@JwcubTHS]

This was a cool video topic! It was easy to see in the initial runs that the rear tires were spending a lot of time in the air and causing some pogoing action. There was a huge difference after the rear shocks were properly tuned! 😎

[@anthonybaldewin4573]

that's a big wow! my 74 fj40 wont be doing that but it's top speed of -20mph would benefit of this. lol

[@samwalker3441]

I never get tired of you interacting w/ the fans. We had the opportunity to meet Gretchen Wilson once. She looked a bit tired. I asked her if she ever tired of the fan interaction. She stopped, looked at me and said, "Honey, if I ever get tired of this, I had better go do something else." I have never forgotten how she felt about the fans.

[@LiteBrite]

That’s exactly how we feel. Our fans are amazing

[@withintheglass2170]

Okay but the Step Child’s rebound without shocks wasn’t even that bad #jellynation 🤘🏽

[@garrymatthews4430]

The difference is just unbelievable, what a ride!!

[@joshuamurillo3480]

When all i can afford is a 2.5 spacer lift by rough country 😓😓 on my 2020jeepwrangler

[@LiteBrite]

Nothing wrong with that! We ran the exact same spacer lift on the Stepchild when we first got it! Held up just fine until we could afford something better!

[@joshuamurillo3480]

@@LiteBrite only reason why i bought it. I saw your guys video

[@bricks1010]

Very informative, I can tell you I never thought about it but when I get my lift kit for the jeep I will defiantly ask questions!

[@jdsrcs8061]

Great info guys. I think the one thing that makes a big difference is buying shocks matched to whatever springs you use. That way they are pretty well tuned to the application, especially if you can't afford really high-end shocks.

[@gabrieldalcomune3044]

Man I'm patiently waiting for external resi bilsteins for my jl with rubi suspension stock height. I'd love to run a set so I can do more highspeed stuff.

[@tyb3938]

I upgraded my 3/4 ton to Billstein and they improved its ride towing on rough roads. I cannot imagine needing to improve our stock rubicon JL. We routinely run 50-60 mph offroad and its ride is butter, most of the time the tires are running around 18 psi. We blew out one of our front Bilstein and they replaced both under warranty, which is nice to see them stand behind their product

[@jonathanliebe1084]

Same here

[@PaulCoetserBalie]

wow, what a huge difference. Alot of valuable information.

[@RyanRKJ]

I drive a GM pickup truck. I'd say the limited amount of front suspension travel is its biggest shortcoming when driving off road. The StepChild looks like it actually has very respectable suspension travel. It scoots real well though the desert now. PS, I just ordered an Axial SCX10iii JLU in red, so I can have 1/9 scale StepChild-like adventures.

[@hydragaurav9798]

YOU ARE JUST AWESOME

[@pratiknaykodi2304]

True

[@BuildSomethingAuto]

If you really want firsthand experience of shock tuning, ask any serious mountain biker. Theyre always fiddling with their shocks. I’m surprised its not more common in the offroad community (outside of desert racing I guess)

[@armandoramirez9206]

Hey Brittany, I just finished watching Hyper Drive on Netflix... You are amazing. Great job! I enjoyed watching you the most. Wish you better luck next time, but you are a winner!

[@v12alpine]

I have a local shock dude in town that seriously hooked up my king 3.0's on my XJ. Night and day on similar terrain in this vid. You spend more on shocks that are tunable but tuning/rebuilding them is super cheap (like $75 per pair). I can't imagine what it would cost to have the tuner come out and ride along! The joys of sponsership!

[@stevefendelet2871]

Wow! Even a gooberschnitzel like me can see the value of tuning! My 10 year old SxS with fox 2.0’s needs this! And Kevin don’t sell yourself short Brotha, I watch this channel just as much for you dude! APPRECIATE YA..

[@singletrackftw]

All very good info! Remember kids, when you take your parking lot overlander to the local desert trails - be sure to bring a professional shock tuning mechanic with his portable trailer full service shop so you can tune your triple bypasses on the fly after seeing how your RTT Clad RIG does on the whoooooops!

[@OverlandbyEric]

I really love this kind of content. BTW I have Bilstein with reservoir it is super soft ( all over the place) where can I tune it . It’s AEV from jeep dealer . Thanks

[@wvlongshooter3912]

Absolutely freaking awesome. It’s all I can say, dang it guys, love that hemy!!!

[@madkow2001]

Wow huge difference! Sweet!

[@sgg17003]

When I was in the Army we'd have someone jump up and down on the 27.5 ton rocket launcher to test the shocks. We knew it wouldn't move but it was funny as hell having them keep on jumping up and down on an unmovable hunk of metal.

[@koldark]

See how smart the new guy is? LOL

[@robmason1773]

Great info.. also just signed up for E3 premium yearly membership.. thanks!!!!

[@mikaelljungberg1019]

Hello im a 4wd wannabe Who have red and whatcht alot about diferent type of 4wd competition. Id like to se you build and compeat in a trophy truck because you ar sutch a good team. It consists of alot of diferent things of offroad ING. There arent to many american compeating in that sport. If you havent whatcht it i Can tell you that it consists of winching upp rochs and tru watercrossings and mud. (car needs a snorkel.) bridge building. Path clearing with chevels and chain saws. Changing tyers on the rim by hand. Use of grund ancers. And alot of stamina and strength. And most importen of all helping out your fello competiters chould they have a problem. Witch i belive is right upp your alley. Pardon my bad spelling. Love you guys have fun and good luck on you. From Helly sweden!

[@White.Elemant]

Hey you two! Not relating to this video specifically but anyway... I hold you seriously responsible of me diggin myself into a deep hole called Wrangler ownership... I'm so happy 😃

[@AC-hq7ce]

@Rudy Terry. I totally agree with. Not all of California drivers are like that A-Hole who ran over your cone. Come back to Cali whenever you can. Your welcomed with open arms. Safe travels on your next adventure.

[@MrBillsfishin]

Wow. Those shocks are amazing. I bet you were thrilled already knowing how much of a difference it was going to make ahead of time having already done it on the Ultra4 car. So many amazing times ahead for the two of you and those rides!!

[@co4x4]

Very informative. In a sentence or two why did you go away from the 6 pack Metalcloak shocks you had before? Cheers from Denver CO.

[@a_aron1065]

I just want to say that you guys are living an awesome life & I will watch & support you guys all I can. Im gonna order a decal for my Jeep Rubicon that I bought at the end of July. Im new to Jeepin & im loving it. God bless you guys & keep living the dream. I wish you well!!

[@justinotherig]

3-link and 4 link suspensions drastically change tuning requirements. Tuning for whoops in the desert is much different than road tuning or rock crawl tuning. Hope you find some balance for all the Stepchild does.

[@apexpredator_jku]

Would y'all not need to re-tweek your shocks once you slap Nittos on Stepchild? Different compound, heavier tire which would effect rotational mass.

[@eldridgesmart5516]

Thanks for the video.👍🏾👍🏾. Thanks for the education. Take care 🤙🏾

[@RichardVac]

I can already see the difference how Stepchild is no longer so jumpi at higher speeds, looking great!

[@jeepsterc104]

Hopefully you can explain how to shock tune. Like the definition of such terms, high & low speed compression and rebound and how to determine the right spring rate to have. Great video though. Keep it up

[@erichein6956]

Good info guys. Totally get the tuning that is needed and spring rates. However, setting Step Child up for bombing across the desert is one thing. How is going to effect the rig while rock crawling?

[@richsmith3120]

Great tips and very educational. Fantastic informational video. Happy Trails to you both.

[@nezzystudios7192]

I think if you guys are gonna be running out here more u need more weight in the backend. Also its awesome seeing you guys in my backyard can't wait tell KOH!!!

[@paulstake]

I thought I knew some stuff, watching you guys made me realize I don't know sh...

[@LiteBrite]

It’s a never ending learning experience, even for us!

[@alessandroconcas]

Great informative and educative video!!! PS: think to wrap the ugly alu?!

[@davidlowrey848]

Fortunately I'm working with a great crew of experts that watches out for all these factors! Thanks LB! I see the parts are arriving.

[@Puddingtops]

I think you guys and the Step child could now ( maybe?) tackle the Dakar rally with that set up 😎👍

[@fabianschmahl6930]

Great job Wes!

[@tunggula1713]

shock manufacturer should participate in coming events not just for sale stuff but to educate and offcourse free shock tune test this set up doing crawling, will be too soft imho

[@joemanly8386]

What about the folks who commute their Jeep as well as off-road? Would an off-road tune be safe for a daily driver?

[@carlosbonilla8446]

But, are you setting up stepchild to be a crawler or a desert runner? I would think tunes are completely different.

[@smouvecouve8082]

Bwahaha 😹 I think our boy at 12:49 was expecting a kiss 💋 and he played it off at 12:50

[@lewismark6183]

Its so the springs can catch up and just like ketchup it flows a little slower through a small hole the bigger the hole the fastor that ketchup flows....

[@koldark]

Maybe I do need to look into that. My truck is stiff and vibrates the whole vehicle on the gravel roads I live on.

[@Bcook39617]

YES, A BIG DIFFERENCE HEY, IT WAS RIDING ALL OVER THE SHOW, AFTER THE TUNE IT RODE LIKE A DREAM.......

[@V8cars2]

Well... i have a buick randezvous...🤷‍♂️

[@sweet65mustang]

Omg that thing is wicked. The difference from before to after is phenomenal.

[@ic1878]

What do you guys think about the wrangler 392??

[@301steady]

So, is Bilstein coming out with externally adjusted shocks? I just paid off my JL; but, about a year out before I start the lift mods; and, so far, I'm only looking at the Teraflex Falcons; because of their external adjustments.

[@LiteBrite]

Yes they have 8100s

[@krpotter57]

Will we be seeing you at the 4X4 Jamboree at Hurrican?

[@creativemustb04]

Wish it was that easy to even find a motor tuner let alone a suspension tuner in Florida for offroad rigs that are not mud boggers lol

[@73challenger86]

That was a great article. Yes - there is a huge difference easily noticeable between first and last run.

[@trjnsd6874]

Really like your informative videos. Wish I’d seen this a couple years ago. Bilstein 5100’s on my WK Hemi made a world of difference from stock. Adding OME heavy duty springs has made the off road great and solved problems, but the on road ride is too stiff now. What’s the compromise on my very limited budget? Not much options for this Jeep. Someday... You two and Bilstein make great partners. Love the speed you’re able to get out of StepChild now! Amazing vehicle and build! LiteBriteNationBouncesBest!

[@LiteBrite]

I would probably contact a tuning company and see what they might recommend. It might be something where you have to find compromise, but there could be a better solution.

[@my357mags]

Another excellent video! Thumbs up!

[@victorsimpkiss4964]

Do you plan on going to famous reading outdoors? In Pennsylvania?