Why Zenless Zone Zero Could Be Your New Favorite Game

[@RedFlaim]

I rushed super hard to make this video so I apologize for not going in depth enough with some parts, but I figured a lot of you wanted to know if this is a game you would be interested in, so hopefully this video helped with that!

[@erenplatinum881]

I wanna play this game so bad!!!!

[@tiny3138]

@@erenplatinum881 samee

[@RealNDY]

Honestly this is even a bit too detailed already so don't worry about it. It's a great informative video you have a pretty nice style of presenting information and highlighting cool stuff

[@whisper3856]

THANK YOU for actually explaining the game! I’ve been looking for a video like this, instead of “hehe look at this character”

[@lmbv809]

I really love how none of their games really cannibalize each other. This game is much closer to Honkai than to Genshin but is still really different. They're games have different audiences but still have the same vibe to it. I unfortunately need to pass on this game for now because I'm planning on playing Honkai Star Rail but overall, the game looks really fun, especially for players like me who enjoy short bursts of fun gameplay

[@Ohakoo]

honkai star rail will release first

[@Dan-og4gs]

I'm really digging the game, it looks really cool! There are parts i'm not happy with and part that sound amazing, but we can't judge until we see the full game. I REALLY wish for a console release tho, I won't be able to play it if that is not a thing...

[@ae7837]

how is hoyoverse so good at making roguelike mechanics but we're still stuck with the current spiral abyss

[@kshawn17]

@@AB-jt4rs all my honkai money went into genshin

[@narudayo5053]

@@AB-jt4rs the game was in production at the same as genshin...

[@Rana-se5qi]

Because Hoyo doesn't care for Genshin

[@world9870]

@@Rana-se5qi With the absolute amount of money that Genshin pumps they definetly care. Also idk Sumeru looks great

[@Rana-se5qi]

@@world9870 nah, they still need to make some content to keep the player base active. Compared to their other games, Genshin is just lacking in a lot of things. It's their money cow rn

[@DonCarlosBack]

the most important thing to me is the multiplayer, i just hope its not like genshin. If you can do the runs with friends then im in

[@TrisTris0]

idk man, the coop in Honkai Impact 3rd and PGR is kinda boring to me

[@oaksofgold]

i feel like they pulled off alot of things that topped honkai and genshin mechanics in this game, if they have one chance to make an actual good co-op, it would be now

[@okaybutwhythough7456]

The visual and animation quality jump from HI3 to Genshin was massive, and yet they reached a new level with their 2 newest games. Even disregarding the scale difference it's impressive.

[@Lauvd]

the game gives me HUGE Persona 5 vibes and im really digging it! Maybe in the next closed beta they can straighten out some of the problems now (like long loading time, no testing zone to really know how strong your characters are, the gacha element, etc) but overall, hella excited for it with how pretty the visuals are and the banger music

[@0Z4ND3R0]

Imagine playing this game with P5 ost

[@darklilligant2636]

Love the look of the game but the fact there's color based event puzzles is a bit of a kick to the ribs for me cause I'm color blind. Hopefully there's a color blind setting in the game on drop.

[@ace-yuri4054]

I hope they bring it to console. It would have a lot of player and be something new with the combat that reminds me of Devil May Cry mixed with the grind of an RPG, an interesting story, hopefully, and good looking all while being free.

[@xeacarons]

Hopefully in switch. It has very nintendo vibes to it.

[@luckybuddy1234]

@@xeacarons same was said for genshin and no word on that. Better for ps and xbox

[@xeacarons]

@@luckybuddy1234 well genshin requires better hardware. switch isn't strong enough for it, its weaker then latest phone models. zzz should be easier to port as its semi open world and more like dungeon crawling.

[@hartfantom]

@@xeacarons hey hey hey, there’s this little game, not sure if you’ve heard of it, it’s like, mega indie, it’s called breath of the Wild, genshin impact is essentially like a clone of that game but just not as good or creative, that game seems to run fairly well on the Nintendo switch, in case you didn’t know 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡. I swear people who talk about switch act like it was made during the dinosaur age, like are you slow💀💀💀. Astral Chain, Monster Hunter Rise, Nier Automota, XENOBLADE CHRONICLES 3 DEFINITELY IS PUSHING THE NINTENDO SWITCH HARDWARE but yet so much of the switch has been extremely well optimized for. Final Fantasy 7 Crisis Core Reunion? Y’all gotta stop with trying to announce games as being some technical ground breaker like wtf 🤡💀💀😂😂😂. Genshin Impact isn’t a threat to Nintendo hardware. Whether hoyo wants to optimize the game and port it is on them. Has nothing to do with hardware. Y’all gotta stop egging on this r*tarded narrative that the switch is just impossible to work with.

[@xeacarons]

@@hartfantom tell me u don't know how hardware works without telling me how hardware works 💀 i owe a fawking switch, that sh*t is fragile af, even phones nowdays are waaay better. the videos u see in yt playing genshin on switch via screen sharing ain't same as playing the actual thing and LMAO Ur whole reply is ignorantly st0pid on how consoles works its astounding

[@jokc8]

The 120 energy is awakening a deep distress in me.

[@Ryzawa]

I am so glad you made this video, even if you wanted to spend more time to make it detailed, I feel like it's kind of difficult to grasp what this game will feel like otherwise. I was interested in the game but couldn't quite place my finger on how it'll play out. Considering how much time I spend on Genshin, I can't just eagerly hop into a new project out of the blue.

[@Haizou]

ZZZ’s aesthetic is so much more to my taste than genshin so i was already so excited when it was announced and now that we see what the game will actually be like,HOLY yea i will love this!oh and i recently started playing Honkai and I really like the combat so I’ll really enjoy this game..though I’m really sad i missed the tuning test,literally ended on the day after the day that the servers closed😞

[@CupoChinoMusic]

the best part about this game is the design ngl. holy fuck this looks good

[@crazylife4543]

I dont like that their using the same artifact system as genshin tho, endless grinding for artifacts, honkai impacts artifact system is much simpler and friendlier, not as predatory Resin system looks like itll just limit game time n encourage spending Ive played similar type of games on pc n, console, theyve never been as predatory or stingy as hoyoverses titles If I put my criticisms aside, I do think it looks rly fluid n colorful

[@Nono-ed5ub]

What do you mean the stigmata system isn’t predatory to get the best stigmas you need to pull

[@crazylife4543]

@@Nono-ed5ub well yes but actually no, honkai still provides alternative stigmatas and overall isnt nearly as frustrating as having to farm for main stats and sub stats on 5 pieces per character. Plus theres always alternative gear n equipment you can use that still gets the job done in honkai, tho in genshin there isnt much of an alternative I prefer honkais system overall to genshins, even if yes it still isnt perfect

[@Nono-ed5ub]

@@crazylife4543 Makes sense but getting signature stigmatas is a complete pain and it only becomes worse because mihoyo decided to make newer characters like aponia dependant on having their full stigma set

[@ryukagefurishira4075]

@@crazylife4543 I wouldn't necessarily say it's better, the fact that almost 100% of characters need their signature weapons + PRI on top of requiring certain stigmatas that might or might not be farmable is as predatory imo. I prefer genshin's artifact system simply because you don't have to use premium currency, and my experience so far is that the minimum requirements for "usable" artifacts can be obtained with at least 3 weeks farming as long as your expectations aren't too high

[@NookDeSus]

@@ryukagefurishira4075 either fomo via signature weapons and stigmate or insane grinding, both are badly designed. 3 weeks is too much, I only grind for few days.

[@mythlessrwf]

I hope the character ascension shards will go in the direction of “Hard-Stage Farming.” Gachas like Princess Connect and Alice Fiction gives a way to farm low-rarity character shards by playing hard versions of completed story stages-each being tied to a specific character, and you can only farm each stage a few times daily. They give only a little bit at a time, but it’s a great long-term goal and mostly F2P friendly

[@suadali6933]

I can’t wait till it comes out! I love how they tried something different! The visualssss oooooo! Don’t get me started on them! I just am so pumped!

[@honeypop9964]

Is there any information about the release date?

[@suadali6933]

No info yet on the release date!

[@yuuzelthyc9683]

Thanks for sharing! Glad to know all this

[@aceofspades8821]

Just looking the the gameplay gets me excited

[@plvto1]

the corruption mechanic reminds me a lot of the corruption mechanic from Curse of the Dead Gods. so I was really surprised to see it in another light!

[@AdamJorgensen]

Sweet, so it's a full-blown roguelite? I can't wait 🙂

[@sleepycryptid8275]

As a Honkai and Genshin player, I can't wait for Zenless Zone Zero!!! It looks like so much fun!!!

[@osocakes4134]

Was trying to find a streamer who tried Ben and Lycaon on the beta release and I saw you tried both of them for a good chunk of the stream, so THANK YOU!

[@digitalchemist3867]

i like that the main character you choose is supposedly the person doing the stuff on the tv's, rather than an avatar that just gets swapped in for cutscenes

[@AlexAmor7]

Nice overview ^^ I will definitely at least give it a shot at release.

[@lord_planc]

I already like the vibe this game gives off, that fast paced goody-ness alongside the pain and fear of taking damage brings me back to PGR and the early stages of competitive Honkai Impact game modes I already knew it was going to give my favorite, because I gush at the animation every 3 seconds Edit, I too like Billy :)

[@DlSappeared]

🤣After checking so many videos, you are the only guy that talked about the alternate moveset and gameplay mechanics.

[@GaryLau2099]

Thanks for the great vid and summary of what ZZZ is like as a game. Visual design, characters and combat seems really attractive to me. Wasn't sure what the tv section does, but now I think I understand more after your explainer.

[@FeyHunt]

How grindy would it be? Like, which areas of the game do you think will be heavily grindy and/or monetized? And how would it affect the game? Also, I would like a more detailed breakdown on the story writing and the lore. Is it as deep as Honkai or Genshin? And does it flow naturally?

[@pyronado4320]

As a person who is in no way affiliated with mihoyo all I can say is wait for the game to come out

[@azza_weak]

The story on this tuning test seems to be just a few first chapters, so It's hard to say. Now if it flows naturally for you or not it might depend on how used you are to the visual novel presentation, but I feel like they did a pretty great job (comparing, It's way less confusing than Honkai's 1st chapter, and has less exposition text than Genshin thankfully). You can watch some content creator's livestreams to check the pace of the story out

[@FeyHunt]

@@azza_weak Interesting. i'm used to VN presentation. I would consider Genshin writing terrible because of Paimon, and Honkai gets good at the later chapter. But the problem with HYV writing is that sometimes they are too on the nose and left nothing for you to interpret. And using subtext wouldn't hurt too.

[@defanbox-boicaptain2794]

Im not usually into these types of games, but I think i could make an exception for this game. Im also excited to see all the dmc combos people will pull out once the game is fully released.

[@PigeonSuWi]

The game looks absolutely amazing and I can't wait to play it. The characters, setting, and the style look great, and I really like rougelikes. I only hope for 3 things: 1. That the gacha won't be too expensive and I can get the characters I want as a f2p/ low spender. 2. That the story won't relate to genshin or honkai whatsoever. I'm kinda tired of the world-ending, philosophical, sad, ultra deep and detailed story of genshin, that also gets tied to honkai in every other genshin impact theory video. It doesn't have to be something huge with a lot of deep story behind every little thing to be interesting, just give me something original, simple and cool, that doesn't relate to the other games from hoyoverse. 3. That the energy will regenerate fast. It's sad that this amazing looking game will be held back by the fact that it's a mobile game too, that has this annoying energy system that will time gate the players (same story with genshin). Or maybe it's because it's made by a Chinese company and with that law in China that you can't play too much in a day they have to implement this energy system in their games. I just want to enjoy the game for however long I want, and then log out when I'm done. So I really hope there will be a mode that doesn't require energy to play at least.

[@zheng8645]

As for the 3rd point, the so-call law in cn is only for minors. Adults players dont have any restriction playing games. The reason why there must be a energy system is that, this kind of system is made for light users as we all known. And light users are ALWAYS the majority in a mobile game in cn. Also, light users are more willing to spend some idle money on the games than hard-core gamers. I'm not saying the energy system is great, but I'm here just to decribe the current composition of the consumer market in cn. If consumers' willingness of spending is totally different in your region, maybe you can persuade hoyo to make a different marketing strategy.

[@azza_weak]

2nd point wise, it being related or not doesn't interfere with the stakes of the story. It being tied is way too likely at this point with how the Hollows work, but that doesn't mean ZZZ needs to go as far as Honkai with exploring the multiverse stuff. Remember that "being related to honkai" really just means "there's a cool tree that sends stuff to destroy humanity", stuff can be monsters, plague, radiation you name it, it's so vague that it can be applied anyway they want. If the deeper lore or theory videos relating them bother you, you can really ignore and still enjoy the main story and it's character's interacting, they've been doing a pretty nice job on separating it with GI and ZZZ so far

[@PigeonSuWi]

​@@zheng8645 Got it, thanks for clarifying. I thought that this law in China is for everyone. But regardless, I assume the majority of the playerbase of ZZZ will be teens, so they will still go under that law. Light users - I assume you mean casual players, yeah? So you are saying that the energy system is made so the casual players will spend money to refill the energy, because they are more likely to spend money? I really don't like this way of monetization considering the game is already a gacha and people will spend money to get the characters, and the energy system by itself gives no benefits. I really never understood mobile gaming, it doesn't sound comfortable playing on a small screen when you need to see what's hapenning on screen while also pressing more than 2 buttons. Maybe it's just me but I think it's a very uncomfortable way of playing. But, from what I understand, Chinese players mostly, or a big part at least, play on mobile right? Otherwise, why would they make such a big game (good graphics, takes a lot of storage) suitable for mobile? Same with genshin, a huge game that is also suitable for mobile.

[@PigeonSuWi]

@@azza_weak Honestly, I barely know anything about honkai so I don't even know what that tree is. I'm not saying that genshin's story is bad, it's nice, I do enjoy watching lore videos, but whenever it gets compared to honkai (because of similar characters or what not) it just frustrates me, because genshin's story is already complex enough, but then they are bringing in honkai which is at least like 2 times more complex and now I gotta understand that too? Like can't genshin have it's own seperate story? Does it have to be connected to honkai no matter what? But hey maybe that's just me, and other people do enjoy this. Now with ZZZ, it looks so modern, fresh and stylish, it's a very fast paced game, the music sounds cool and upbeating, and so on, I think you get me. Now, I think it would be very out of place if the story behind all this will be some depressive philosophical stuff like in genshin or honkai, and that's why I want it's story to be seperated. Luckily for me, all the charcaters so far don't look similar to genshin's or honkai's so at least people won't be comparing them. I just want the story to be something new and original that doesn't relate to genshin or honkai. I don't have access to the beta and didn't watch much videos about it so I don't know the story yet, I want to explore the game myself when it comes out. I hope I didn't sound too annoying or negative, just said my thoughts.

[@zheng8645]

@@PigeonSuWi Oh... I'm surprised you kinda miss my point... Sorry for my wording. Light users mean ppl dont have TOO much time on gaming everyday compared to those hard core players, bc they need to take college or go to work. How come these users will spend money on energy refilling... Something like welkin or bp are mostly what they are willing to spend on. What I mean "energy system is made for light users" is that, light users won't be left behind too much thanks to this system. It's bad for hard core player for sure, but hoyo seems to care more about the majority light users.

[@DevilboyBanjo]

I think the biggest turn off for a lot of players would be the energy and gacha Speaking of which I hope this first batch of characters in the beta will be the "standard banner" type of characters. Except s11, she gives me limited banner kinda vibes

[@minhhuytruong8667]

Eh, the gacha and energy system will only turn off main stream western players. Gacha vets and Asians won't mind that much since they are used to it.

[@pyronado4320]

Games like these make me realise weapon systems like the one in genshin are really bad/limiting and just a way to make money

[@destructo3457]

Yes? It's a free game, they need to make money

[@plvto1]

@@destructo3457 pretty sure they know that already

[@Vagrant202]

Psssh. Honkai also has that. They even has stigma (equipment) gacha besides chars and weapon gacha. Its just the way hoyo or most gacha games make money

[@flytelp]

@@destructo3457 I hope you realize that gacha games go FAR beyond just making enough money to continue paying the developers to update the game.

[@destructo3457]

@@flytelp Yes i do, i'm just saying that it's pretty obvious it's a bad system

[@Emerald29]

I came from Genshin, but I also fucking like roguelikes. When I heard hoyoverse was making a roguelike, its kind of a dream come true since they're like the masters at making flashy combat systems

[@amyyfran21]

as you explain the game, it reminded me of another game that i already play, "guardian tales". the tv movement is kinda like the "kama-zone" of GT, you move around in a tree like path, you can pick and choose the tile you wanna go. each tile have symbols and will dictate what it might contain. some quest tiles, have fun game play but you get buffs and debuffs for you combat. the chain skills or on ZZZ's case, continuing bursts, is also similar. tho in GT, there's no dodge button, pixel graphics, have other game play (ai, auto, pve, pvp). so im not saying they are the same but i can see similarities. Which means i might give ZZZ a try since i already am familiar with some core gameplay.

[@asyrafzara5698]

Some of Genshin players might not like this game, but i must say, most of Honkai players will like it since Honkai has been using stage mode for its stories (except the recent chapters) instead of open world. And the combat is fast and responsive, leaning towards Honkai combat style, which i really love. Honkai has been around for 5 years and yet im still in awe of its combat. However, thats not the same case for genshin for me. Its only 2 years in for genshin, and i, if possible would not want to engage in combat because it feels cumbersome. I will spend a lot of time in ZZZ like i do in Honkai. It will really hit the sweet spot!

[@maidthoma7518]

genshin players dont know what dificult mean . i loved ZZZ , genshin is so bored and annoing when u reach level 50 u dont have anything more to do than the daily comission's :/

[@raibyo]

From what I've seen so far, it gives me Persona vibes, especially the music, which is a good thing.

[@v.emiltheii-nd.8094]

Bruh, Genshin, ToF, Honkai, ZZZ, Wuthering Waves....it never ends.

[@lonk7596]

3:38 Genshin players when they discover there's more than just spamming mouse 1 and swapping after skill in a game

[@terrormask2475]

7:39 I wonder what the “infinite” sign displayed under characters portrait means. Probably something I will hate a lot… Like a mechanic that limits how many times per day you can use them or something.

[@obihz2415]

it's the rating

[@azurelastation7619]

The fact that this game is so fresh, i always forgot it's from hoyoverse.

[@Taku.l]

I come from Genshin, but seeing that it had roguelike mechanics is what got me really interested. I have played some roguelike and roguelite games in the past and I think the concept is really cool. Also, I'm playing a lot of Arknights' roguelike mode (Integrated Strategies) and I find it really fun. Probably will play this game a lot

[@BunnyLove5763]

I’m really excited for it! I wasn’t picked for beta / test which is sad but I’m eagerly following the development of it.

[@mario0218]

I have actually become quite drained from the open world aspects of most games that are out as of now. I play genshin casually now and primarily play monster hunter rise. I like rise more so now because although it feels open world. The zones you are placed it are so big they give that open world illusion. It makes it so that I don’t feel overstimulated with things to do. Regardless ZZZ feels like a breathe a fresh air. The style and design look amazing. I like that they are also adapting to a more honkai style of gameplay it makes it so people who wanted to play honkai but now feel so left behind via content can start something new

[@PhantomShibe]

This game is actually better than genshin bcs it actually have legitmate combos between your skills and party

[@v1nzzzz1]

true, if you play honkai late like i am, u will understand nothing (lore)

[@kingalex105x7]

7:40 this right here is something honkai has, while its alot more simpler to understand here instead of honkai's five million different currencies that you have to figure out what is for what but it is just like honkai

[@erenplatinum881]

Im so hyped for this game!!!!!!

[@calvyn8059]

I read the title as "everything you need to know about Rizz" 💀

[@Eimiko.69]

Future nicole main that's it thx to that MASSIVE suitcase ofc😭

[@distritochristianangeloa.157]

I am waiting for this game to release because I love Roguelike games in general and the character designs are unique and fresh from traditional hoyoverse design. I'll play it along side Genshin, Arknights and possibly star rail and Endfield too when those will release.

[@ThatLetterK]

The only thing that confuses me is why launch it on other platforms like PC? The stamina system itself limits the gameplay a lot along with the actual combat/gameplay being heavily tied to a tile level format, it'll be a worse turnout than Genshin's current problem of keeping players invested in the overall gameplay loop since your spending more time in a menu in Zenless rather than experience the game. At least in Genshin there's the open world but even that's a bit watered down because of the mainline activities being tied to a stamina system. At that point the game would just work better if it was strictly mobile.

[@daisuki041978]

I mean there could be other stuff on ZZZ that we don’t know yet that so I think it’s better to wait for the whole game or some other features added But your point does make sense

[@errisland5408]

People play mobile games on pc with simulators all the time, and I mean those without a pc version, I personally don’t do that and I don’t like it. But since there is a vast need for playing mobile games on pc, it’s really not hard to understand why this happens.

[@imbtt39]

a PC/console version will always be demanded by the playerbase. why even wait by releasing on one platform from time to time, when you can just release it at the same time.

[@ThatLetterK]

@@errisland5408 The main concern just comes from the lack of an actual gameplay to keep people invested. When especially releasing on a platform like PC or console which you'd tend to spend more than 15 minutes on, and most of it you're not exactly playing the actual ggame itself, just sitting in a menu. Just from the beta it's not that impressive compared to other titles. But who knows, the talks of it being a rogue lite might be what it needs to keep the game more interesting, and hopefully not need a stamina system to keep longer term players invested.

[@errisland5408]

@@ThatLetterK I find this concern absurd, because it’s not something that players should be worried about, it’s the dev’s job to keep people invested, why are you worried about if people play the game or not? I just simply don’t understand….

[@renno2679]

They made Simulated Universe into its own game lol. I guess SU was kind of them experimenting with roguelike elements.

[@RPGOmen]

My only complaint in the first 3-5 hours of the game (progressing in the main story) is that the game has been 90% proxy game play ("real world" and Mini-game) and only 10% combat. The stages have been super short -- only 30 seconds at most -- and its over just as I'm starting to enjoy myself. The combat is one of the best I've seen in a while, but it doesn't seem to be the focus despite you investing in those characters. In fact, it seems to encourage you to skip fights as much as possible for maximum rewards in some missions (especially the color trivia).

[@hovsep56]

The combat is actually very simple, if 90% of the game was combat i could see players burning out quikly. It's a smart move to keep it small.

[@RPGOmen]

@@hovsep56 It's hard to make a claim to its simplicity when the battles barely last the blink of an eye. When you're really just starting to get into the groove of things, the battle is already over. From that perspective, I can see why one might call it simple as it is hard to get an objective look at things since you can't used everything available to in such a short time frame. Which is the crux of the problem, since they seem to be of the mind to cash in on these characters and their growth; to make their cash cows limited use is the height of error. In fact, I received a comment asking if we could use them in the city since we're investing so much in them. Which is a valid question. The potential is there when keeping in mind the control scheme of phones along with one's experience also being dictated by their lineup and how many star-talents they've unlocked. They could also include additional effects in items or other systems as one of the reasons for this tune up is to work on the combat, or so I've read. I do like the tag-team combos and how you can force initiate or chain them through stuns, along with swap dash and dodge mechanics (and if timed correctly, you can even see all three characters attacking at once). Add to this all the effects you stack to match your characters, the buffs you already obtained and how they synergize with 5 star characters and their talents / elemental effects. It has become easy to complete these 30 seconds dungeons without ever getting hit, and the elemental system is pretty simple beyond picking Hades-styled (as a popular game to reference) buffs through a mini-game. For a tune-up test, and figuring that this game has probably at least a year to go before it is release (Honkai will likely end its story next year as well) there is a lot to build on. Though at the same time, it (the elemental system) just providing additional damage (and status effects like freezing enemies at the correct time), I feel, is the correct way to go for a mobile game of this type. Genshin Impact making fights last longer against specific mobs because you don't have an element they were weak against wasn't the correct way to go about this (that is, for example, mobs with actual shields and then magical ones). Admittedly part of this may stem from it just adding another layer of not picking our favorite characters because they aren't the right element or combination. Which further increased a dislike of pulling on characters just because of their design due to knowing they won't be played since it may slow down actual fights. One could say that it is mindless fun. Whereas just moving around on the proxy screen from box to box is tedious at best. Which is likely due to its overuse along with the limited time you actually get to fight when you fight... in addition to the poor rewards of such that kind of lead you to avoiding any fight you are able and just finish the proxy stage.

[@AevyCh]

I just wish that the game doesn't turn into a gacha hell addiction like HYV's other game titles, but it seems inevitable at this point.... I guess I'll give it a try once the game officially release.

[@BadassHatdog]

this is likely to have battle leaderboards, once they have that.. and you get attached.. then addiction it is. From the hells of farming mats to min-maxing.

[@lastnamefirstname8655]

i'm very much a big fan of this game! especially anby.

[@ntyd1s]

So it is basically a reboot of Matrix Exploration mode that used to be in Honkai Impact.

[@calluk2770]

Please be reminded that this version, with this completion, is only its FIRST beta.

[@SandwichDoggy]

The most exciting thing for me is that hoyoverse stepped up the furry scale and I am getting absolutely baited by lycaon and ben

[@cinnamon4954]

Is the speculated release in 2023? I'm super hyped for this and all the characters look super funky and cool

[@Fluskar]

wow

[@leech7412]

this game's aesthetic reminds me a lot of splatoon which is definitely a good thing

[@annamascha2939]

i cant afford to be caught playing this with nicole on screen

[@1-a-a-a-1]

For a Honkai and Genshin player, in my opinion, this is the perfect balance 😀

[@Everdistance]

Basically the only thing I'm concerned about is the stamina system. I think reducing everything by 10 in terms of cost would be fine, I'm not one of those people who demands unlimited stamina. Or heck, even just let you play a stage you've unlocked for no stamina but no rewards, the base gameplay is fun enough I'd do that if I wanted to kill time. Besides that, really realyl looking forward to this game, as someone who mostly plays Genshin for the combat but found Honkai a biiit clunky, this is basically everything I've wanted from Hoyoverse.

[@LongDeadArtist]

I seriously enjoy Honkai's combat and I'm loving the vibe in this game, if possible for my dying phone, I may get it

[@ArchAngelKnights]

Is there coop?

[@devlinnya2496]

Bro this game looks very cool, and even tho i really like open world stuff, this type of thing is very good too, also, Tower of Fantasy coming literally next week, Sumeru by the end of this month and ZZZ probably not that far... I'll be surprised if my phone survive

[@chagrined4days]

Thanks for the overview. I got into Genshin for the open-world exploration and it doesn't sound like this game would interest me so that's useful to know. :)

[@thuglifeganyu7543]

Something to play when I'm burnout from genshin, then when I got burnout in zzz time to go back for genshin lol

[@redyeezy7383]

When is this game coming out?

[@Mystole]

Stamina system looks incredibly worrisome.

[@razor5694]

Having story missions behind resin/energy is a cuck move

[@chrisyang6487]

You should worry more about the shard system. Hate those much

[@Morichoradio]

Eh its way easier compared to pgr especially in higher content such as babel.

[@nullandvoid42]

billy is everyones favorite

[@V7power]

When it realase?

[@Unreported29]

Nekomata stan WE ARE HERE

[@ILUVASTRO]

I hope we get a ps5 or switch release cus I don’t like the idea of playing games on my phone but this game looks sick

[@chrisyang6487]

They say it has a shard system? When I heard it this might involve a lot of transactions too just to have a strong character just honkai but everything else looks good for me.

[@diogopauloferreira423]

Me who plays genshin and wants to play that game because is literally my style

[@notfutomomo3424]

its like elysian realm but with a team Elysian Abyss kek i do hope they put rankings in there Also having it on high difficulty might prove beneficial to deter certain **cough"twitter"** groups

[@PhantomShibe]

yeah. i hate having casuals cry about every single things in the Genshin lol

[@naufalsadewa223]

i need corin in my life, so yeah, im gonna play this game

[@icedteabee]

I wanna hug the bear so badly

[@RandomUsername101s]

ZZZ and HI3 have similar combat system, while Genshin is just strategic button mashing, so it is quite understandable. We still need to see the final product of the game to see just how good it is.

[@headhnal]

“button mashing” 🤡🤡🤡

[@mark9152]

"Not everyone is gonna like this game, especially when you come from Genshin." That is me right there. I Was honestly expecting a futuristic Genshin rather than a Honkai 2.0. TBH I wasn't a fan of Honkai's combat and quit after a month (also because when I don't start from launch I don't have as much attachment to a game.) So when I saw that ZZZ is more like instance-based (and not an open world game) hack-and-slash type of game, I was almost certain that I would probably just try the game for a month or so just for Nicole and Miyabi then quit.

[@remainer]

dude that energy system is genuinely worrying me, why would they NOT want the game to be grindable. I'm not even a big genshin fan but at least you can still play story and grind monster material drops/explore open world if you don't have resin to spend. But a hard cap for how much you can play a day in general not just for specific activities is awful sounding.

[@Morichoradio]

"Not everyone is going to like this game especially if you come from genshin" Me who has played PGR for 2.5 yrs: *I guess I can play some easy af games once in a while*

[@mushokueien8148]

Another great concept and visuals cucked by being a Mobile Gacha. Someday we'll get normal AAA PC anime styled slasher/RPG/whateva of the same quality, i hope.

[@PhantomShibe]

There are only two ways: Free to play with both gacha and mircotransaction or Pay to play with microtransations only.

[@ShiroCh_ID]

well if only it wasnt a time gated games,i might pick it up just for fun

[@m-g-b513]

this coming to pc?

[@atxsph]

It seems cool but I am worried about the abundance of games hoyoverse releases. There is already honkai , tears of Themis, genshin and heck there is also honkai star rail that didn't even release and they already develop another game. It seems like instead of focusing on them they just dump more and more games on players. I just hope they chill out a bit tbh and focus on making the already released games better, such as the abyss in genshin and other challenges in honkai, which in my opinion can take too long. I don't really care about tears of Themis because a lot of the mechanics in my opinion are similar to most otome games , but I do enjoy the story won't lie. Just hope these are the last games hoyoverse releases for the next 2-3 years at least, though I doubt it

[@harfi212]

Its already their plan since honkai days. The want to make every genre on gacha game. They already submitted 1 more game to china licensing departement.

[@rafinoor2456]

I Hope that the "open world" section will feel like yakuza's open world instead of something like genshin

[@wonderhoyami]

I think i might really like this game, i mean even if i dont like the gameplay as much as the other games (i probably will like it more but you can never be sure) just,, the feeling of this game is insane, i absulotely LOVE games that looks like this, i cant wait!!

[@unicornwizard2118]

if I didn't have to play Genshin on PS4, I would totally get Zeneless

[@tcklshm]

How do you download it

[@im-bored-help7983]

do i understand anything? absolutely not but it’s sounds and looks so fun

[@elizabethvein4328]

Seems exhausting tbh... or maybe its just my 0 irl sanity brain after countless IS#2 run x'D

[@paradoxicalnexus7246]

I wanna play it.

[@sanjeethmahendrakar]

Feel like they're trying to make this a more meta focused try hard experience when compared to Genshin's more casual experience which I don't mind.

[@1DMapler18]

there not being alot of male characters is whats putting me off from the game. this is what happened to me with lost ark (theres actually quite a selection of male classes availble but not in the ones i wanted)

[@AA-cf4es]

Agree.

[@missmaple013]

if its released on console, ill be interested.

[@hatakekakashi3228]

I come from Genshin and Honkai (I guess I'm a hoyo simp...) and I like this game already but the random debuffs and buffs should make the characters feels different Also I like Isaac gameplay tbh, hopefully the gacha system will not be important or more F2P friendly ofc, infinite fighting please

[@Scio_]

The dungeon crawl system is hands down the best part of the game and has SO much cheaply explored design space for future regular future content. I really want expecting it, and it made me very happy. And let's face it, the combat, while very fun, is just one flat simple stage and some enemies. No interesting tactics to employ on different levels whatsoever. If the dungeon crawl system didn't exist this game would become dull within days.

[@tonoblood]

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