Make your own UPS and enjoy uninterrupted connectivity :-)
@hmcinematics27613 жыл бұрын
How it will coast 500rs Bro ?? The Only Batteries cost 900.. Please give a cheaper solution available Online in 540 🙂
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Try for getting an old laptop Battery which will cost you 60rs Where you get 4 to 6 good and original cells. Test each cells and use only good cells to form a battery. This will be the cheaper solution. Hope this helps!
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
It depends on what product you use. If you are looking for a cheaper solution then visit a cycle spare part shop and you will find in all ranges. You can do from 400rs.
@rick49733 жыл бұрын
@@DIYCommunity bro mujhe ek karke do please
@somaenterprises91613 жыл бұрын
What us the use xl 6009 dc to dc step up
@DilrukKarunanayake2 жыл бұрын
Update: I've made the UPS according to this this specs. HOWEVER, I NOTED THE BMS DOES NOT FULLY CHARGE THE BATTERIES EVEN WHEN THE INPUT VOLTAGE IS SET AT 12.7V. I've tested this multiple times with 2 routers. Router 1: a 12V 0.5A which lasted 2.5 hours with 6 1800mAh cells - (2 sets of 3 cells connected in series)(this was with the battery's first charge/manifacture's charge) after the batteries were fully drained, recharges the pack through the BMS with a power adapter. The charge lasted only 45 min. The 3 cells were at different voltages after the BMS cut off the supply to the router. Initially charged it with a 12V 1A supply and thought the input current was not sufficient, therefore charged it with 12V 2A supply. Still got around 45 min or less. So to double check, I've charged the same batteries with a 18650 battery charger. Inserted the batteries to the UPS and tried it with a 12V 1A router. The UPS lasted 3 hours and 34 min. This was just with 3 18650 1800mAh cells. I've concluded that it's better to use individual BMS's to charge each cell to get the full potential. Hope this will help anyone who is planning to build this UPS
@shubhamsawant51292 жыл бұрын
Was facing similar kind of issue.. finally found that there was no proper contact even after soldering. Checked with multimeter. Happens sometimes in case of li ion battery soldering
@pankajubhale41612 жыл бұрын
I faced the same issue too, if we use the same adapter 12v 2 A, the voltage dropped 0.6v at input due to input diode, hence it is 11.4 v to bms, bms needs voltage range atleast 12.6v so that each battery charged with 4.2v which is optimal. Bms has property to shut down output power when battery voltage decreases to 9v. Hence we get less backup due to battery voltage range 9v to 11.4v. hence it is necessary to have 12.6v alteast to input of bms. If we remove input diode then again there is issue that input led light and indicator light of adapter become ON even there is no input power supply because battery is used by them in abscence of diode. Solutions is to have 13v customised input adapter to power the ups with input diode of 3 A if your router works at 2A. I tried i got best results in back up, atleast 2.5 hrs with 2 A router with three 18650 batteries.
@technicalsohil40632 жыл бұрын
@@pankajubhale4161 any solution found to replace diode near input section?
@technicalsohil40632 жыл бұрын
@@pankajubhale4161 how to make 13 volt supply?
@bishalsen230 Жыл бұрын
You kiddin me? You cant get 3 hours of backup just with 3, 1800maH batteries in series, the voltage will increase to around 12V, but the capacity will remain 1800maH.. If You're using just one 12V 1A Router, that's 12watts per hour, You should expect to get no more than 45 mnts (in fact around 30mnts) How did you get 3+ hours!
@vijayamohansivalingam55873 жыл бұрын
very nice idea of creating though waste/unused products.
@patideb3 жыл бұрын
The boost converter is not needed in this circuit design. A 12v router has a working voltage range of 10.5v to 14v. The fluctuation can easily be managed by a 16v 4700uF capacitor
@HistoriCutsHub2 жыл бұрын
i was also wonderin what is the use of the boost conv until you confirmed what im initially thinking.
@papaikarmakar84 Жыл бұрын
Boost converter is used for constant voltage & constant current
@saurabhdusane2165 Жыл бұрын
@@papaikarmakar84 wouldnt a simple voltage regulator IC work? Like 7809 or 7812 ?
@papaikarmakar84 Жыл бұрын
@@saurabhdusane2165 voltage regulator ics are used when you need to drop down the voltage. It can not work as voltage booster. But yes if there is voltage fluctuation then it comes into play.
@papaikarmakar84 Жыл бұрын
@stop following me exactly 💯
@techrama9642 Жыл бұрын
05:00 That diode at the the bottom right corner keep provide power from batteries even you turn off the black switch or 12 volt adaptor supply. Because that diode directly connected from bms positive and getting negetive from Buck converter. I have to unplug the 12 output cable to turn off my router any solution??
@sksdiy2 жыл бұрын
The problem with this method is.. Battery is only charged to 70-80%.. Because 12 adaptor outputs about 11.7-11.9 v at most so 11.7/3 =3.9v per cell... But li ion can be charged to 4.2v per cell.. So.. Yeah.. I am using 2s 3p configuration with relay.. But sometimes there is rebooting even if caps are used..
@shubhamsawant51292 жыл бұрын
The diode with drop 0.6v from adapter so adapter will actually supply 11.4v to router. The boost converter is set to 12v so it will always draw from boost module and not adapter. To use adapter module voltage must be 11.3v or less which may cause problem sometimes in router function. You need a relay switch over circuit to remove diodes Edit: I made it using 4 Li ion battery (2600 mah) it gives me 6 hrs of backup for my Airtel 5g xtreme router Now I used 8 batteries and backup is almost 11 hours.. (enough for my work from home😌)
@sashi_882 жыл бұрын
Yes
@trishalmandrik12952 жыл бұрын
Hey! Can you share the circuit diagram.
@shubhamsawant51292 жыл бұрын
@@trishalmandrik1295 sorry I don't have diagram.. i designed with trial and error. You may find many voltage based switching circuit diagram on internet. I suggest you to use opamp ani 11v zener for reference.
@technicalsohil40632 жыл бұрын
@@shubhamsawant5129 please make circuit diagram and send me on instagram.. i need your work
@technicalsohil40632 жыл бұрын
@@shubhamsawant5129 and which relay switch u have used?
@fallenangel22133 жыл бұрын
Thnk u. Its been a long time Im looking for this . Very useful and diagram is very clear.
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome
@simeonerasmus3 жыл бұрын
Well dome my guy really good video. Here is South Africa we struggle with frequent power outages and this will really help. Gonna build it payday
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. Yes this will really help in that situation. All the best my friend!
@patideb3 жыл бұрын
@diy community The main flaw in this circuit is charging the battery after a discharge cycle. Because 3s lithium battery has a full charge voltage of 12.6v but router adapter has a close circuit voltage of 11.8v or below if that's a low amp adapter. That can never charge your battery fully and the battery will have half of its rated capacity while it backs up power.. I watched many people post video about router ups but very few of them address this issue in their design.
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have replied for many comments saying that this will not charge the battery to full. And replace power supply by 12.6 to 12.8v to charge the battery to its full. Anyways thanks for your comments. Appreciated!
@Amit249812 жыл бұрын
Just modify charger by changing feedback of TL431 in charger to 12.8-13. that will do.
@shailesh0813 Жыл бұрын
@@Amit24981any tutorial video?
@shailesh0813 Жыл бұрын
Facing the same issue. I wish I had read comments before implementing 😢
@alamir2378 Жыл бұрын
@@shailesh0813 can you supply a 12.6v input?
@mohitkoli70975 ай бұрын
5:25 I have a question if you are using the boost converter why did you connect the battery positive, directly to output, ???
@CancunManny5 ай бұрын
I learned how to make UPS watching youtube videos, and now I come to find out many of these videos are WRONG. His whole setup seems to be wrong. Like you mentioned the boost converter is attached to the "steady" 12v already coming in. Also he doesn't have 12.6 V which is needed to properly charge the batteries. Understandable, but I haven't yet found a good electronics forum where real experts can share info. The forums I post on I usually get told my project is all wrong, but they don't give me details on exactly what I should use.
@mohitkoli70975 ай бұрын
@@CancunMannyNah don't worry it can work you just need to remove the directly connected battery positive to the output and use like a 13 volt 3 ampere adaptor that's how I made my ups and the BMS will handle 1 or 2 extra volt just fine I think 🤔
@CancunManny5 ай бұрын
@@mohitkoli7097 I am no expert by any means, but the so called experts at different electronics forums say a BMS is not a Li Ion charging circuit. It seems to safely charge a 3S battery pack you need a charging circuit to provide CV (constant volts at 12.6) and a CC (Constant Current), you also need a BMS. I want to emphasize I am not an expert! I've seen videos on YT where it shows BMS working correctly even when you use an extra or two volts. If i am understanding correctly many set ups will "work", but not work correctly. This means you could kill your battery much faster than expected or worse yet have it explode and cause a fire.
@mohitkoli70975 ай бұрын
@@CancunManny Nah I don't worry it will work just fine just fine with the instructions I gave above ☝️ I get what you're trying to say it is safer to charge it that way👍 I'm just saying it's a DIY project you can do it and learn from it :-) its just for fun it doesn't need to be that exact voltage it is flexible it can charge at 13 or even higher volt I charge my 3S pack with 15 volt for like 3 years and it works just fine 🫠 whoever reading this please charge it 12.6 volts, it work for me but it can't work for everybody Maybe you have a different BMS which exactly needs the 12.6 volt so just to be safe 🙂 and yes set the voltage on the boost or buck converter to 12 or 12.1 volt and check the positive and negative wire ( or else you will get I fullyy cooked to perfection🎇🔥👾{ router☠️} ) If you do all the things correctly you got a working Mini UPS 😊
@mohitkoli70975 ай бұрын
@@CancunManny we are really writing a book over here I think I'll stop replying 😅😂
@praveenraveendran27943 жыл бұрын
I have made it.. working perfectly.. Thanks bro
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for confirming !
@ziakhan13172 жыл бұрын
your Router Voltage and Ampere? or kitny hours tak work karta hy same ups?
@yashchinchore42116 ай бұрын
Bro is it still working ?.....If yes, then how reliable is it
@praveenraveendran27946 ай бұрын
@@yashchinchore4211 still working fine
@aladdinalzribi72276 ай бұрын
How many hours do you keep working
@Blackkingplayzofficial133 ай бұрын
Bhai jo apne end mai ek diode or ek resistor extra lagaya hai wo hum ne b lagana hai plz reply
@paraxo373 жыл бұрын
Why do you need XL6009 module? 3S BMS board already has 12V output.
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for asking my friend. When ups is running (no electricity) for longer time the voltage reduces slowly. To avoid this I have used a boost converter which always maintains the output voltage.
@CancunManny5 ай бұрын
BMS don't have a constant current or constant voltage as output. When batteries fully charged it should output 12.6v, as batteries start to go low, voltage will get closer to 9v before BMS shuts off. The boost converter is used to keep the output steady at 12v. In fact I think the booster he is using has a different name. Step down gets you from higher V to lower Vs, Step up gets you from lower Vs to higher vs, then there is a 3rd type that keeps output Vs steady even if you supply more or less Vs. In this example, when batteries fully charged output should be 12.6v, but if you only need 12v you need to step down from 12.6 to 12v. But when batteries go under 4v each, then you need to step up to 12v.
@jyotirani82322 жыл бұрын
xl6009 kafi heat karta hai, kya ye normal hai?
@jyotirani82322 жыл бұрын
Please reply
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Hi, if the load connected is drawing more then 2 amp it will start heating. Do you see this from beginning ? or now after few days of usage. If the heat is bearable to touch then no need to do anything.
@jyotirani82322 жыл бұрын
@@DIYCommunity from starting I am facing the issue. now xl6009 not working, only 3s BMS charging directly from input 12v, and due to that battery is not fully charged. I am using 20A BMS. what should be the exact output voltage of xl6009. I used 13V so that the 3s battery pack can charge easily.
@shubhamsawant51293 ай бұрын
@@jyotirani8232 you don't need 3s bms, you need 2s bms and use boost converter. I made it more than a year ago, it's still giving me 11+ hrs.
@oraclebjj3 жыл бұрын
Rajesh you my friend are my buddy now. Thank you for that great video. Well documented, composed, edited, captioned. This is something I’ve looked for some time. Looks like s fun project for a novice like me. I haven’t read the description section yet but if your total cost isn’t there could you share what that would look like? Weighing the cost/time vs buying a ups. Time is precious of course. Will it be safe for other small devices like Google home mini?
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Hi OracleLife, Thanks for your lovely comments! This UPS will cost you rs500/- with old laptop batteries. If you are going with new the. Add rs400/- + battery cost. UPS selling at e-commerce website ranges from rs1400/-. Yes you can use it fir google mine, Alexa or home security camera by setting up the output voltage as described on it. Hope this helps!
@CryptoboyAB2 жыл бұрын
please mnake a 9v + 12v ups
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
The one which we see in video is for 12v. Use a step down converter at output and set the voltage from 5v to 12v according to your need.
@SONGMOVIE-nv9wt2 жыл бұрын
Explained well exlenat video bro😘♥️
@rohanpatil11223 жыл бұрын
Great Job 👏👏👏
@suguravi29652 жыл бұрын
working fine for me. nice video 😎😎😎
@ziakhan13172 жыл бұрын
apka router kitny voltage and ampere ka hy?
@Uniqueshreee3 жыл бұрын
Such a informative and great video you made, it is now very to make this wonderful UPS, I have also the same NOKIA router, just a small question, is Power gets disconnected single time whenever electricity goes OFF...?
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Hi, This will give an uninterrupted supply. So it does not disconnect while main power is off or when power resumes back.
@josealfredfernandes2 жыл бұрын
@@DIYCommunity Hey. Kindly get in touch with me. My c0nt@ct details are in my bio. This is urgent. I seek to hire you to build a online ups 12v 12.5A 150w DC-DC for me. 2days backup. Also, need more 2 ups, 12v 2a 2 days backup. 0ms changeover. Etc.
@josealfredfernandes2 жыл бұрын
@@DIYCommunity budget 10000, I can go above that too, I need this urgently. Kindly get back to me.
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I recommend you to go for a 200w inverter connected to a 12v 40ah inverter battery. The cost would come around 8k. You can connect any load upto 200w and that gives more backup. If you have space install a 100watt solar panel for charging the battery. There you use some renewable source also.
@josealfredfernandes2 жыл бұрын
@@DIYCommunity alright
@athulkrishna.k92952 ай бұрын
Bro can i use 3S 10A Bms board dor 6 nos 2200mah batteries
@DIYCommunity2 ай бұрын
Yes bro you can use. In total it is going to be 4400mah(connect 2 cells each in parallel and then 3 sets in series). Anyways less than bms capacity
@ghanshyam65673 жыл бұрын
BROTHER I MADE IT AND ITS WORKS WELL WITH JIO FIBER 2.5AMP THANK YOU...BUT BMS P+ TO OUTPUT JACK DIODE IS WRONG CONNECTED IN SCHEMATIC IT SHOULD BE CONNECTED DIRECT TO IN JACK INSTEAD OF P+
@ghanshyam65673 жыл бұрын
bcs current flow from p+ to out jack without sitch on
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Thanks for trying this out. And yes the bypass line needs to be connected before the diode and direct to input jack. I have replied this to one of viewer earlier and now I will pin this message so that everyone who tries will avoid doing this mistake.
@upulranaweera35972 жыл бұрын
@@DIYCommunity why don't you add the revised circuit diagram, not everyone is electronic expert. I have made your project according to the circuit diagram you have included in the video and my project is not successful. My mini UPS retains power only for less than 5 minutes though the batteries have not run down. I am not sure what is the issue. Though not an expert, I too suspected the bypass and the diode. Could you please add a link to the correct diagram please. that would be very helpful. Please.
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Hi, The changes i explained for few members is to isolate the battery line with backup line. And even without this is should work in same way. If you are using this ups for a 12v router and getting a lesser backup then you can remove the boost converter and try running it directly with battery bms. By doing this we can detect any problems with boost converter or bms. In Most cases if the boost converter is not capable of delivering a constant current then BMS gets into sleep mode. I assume your setup is also having similar issue. Try the above changes and let me know.
@vijaydas97472 жыл бұрын
how much it costs ready made available cheap
@albertantony203 жыл бұрын
Worked perfectly thanks a lot brother
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Welcome brother. Thanks for confirming.
@LiegeMaximo3 жыл бұрын
saman kahan se mila vro
@Hedgehog_DIY8 ай бұрын
How do i get 9v 0.6a or 1a pls tell me and also 12v... Should i use voltage regulator ic ??or another booster
@wasirahman Жыл бұрын
Hi, I want to use an external charger like Imax b6 instead of the BMS board. What do you suggest to use as a bypass when router adapter kicks in?
@johnricher133Ай бұрын
this depends on battery capacity: single 3.7v li-ion battery has 3500mah (or better), 12v router consuming, 6 battery, 0.85 efficiency, find the run time? total battery capacity: 6 battery * 3500mah = 21,000mah total battery energy: 3.7v * 21,000mah = 77,700mah convert from mah to wh: 77,700mah / 1000 = 77.7wh efficiency: 0.85 * 77.7wh = 66.045wh run time in hour: 66.045wh / 12w = 5.50375h
@pardhasaradhi9278 Жыл бұрын
Why are you added extra resistor in both sides That is not in Circuit diagram ?? What is the resistor capacity ? Pls reply 6:55
@DIYCommunity Жыл бұрын
Resistors added to limit current going to led. As I did not have a single 680ohm i clubbed 2 resistors to make the value. You can add one between 680ohm to 1k. Hope this clears your question.
@vishaljain71483 жыл бұрын
Wow supeb video , i will give it a try .
@ahamednusry25162 жыл бұрын
Brother I did it all perfectly but when I test the battery voltage by P+ and P- in the BMS board it shows nothing. But separately all batteries show the voltage of each and added battery. Can I know the reason
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Hi, there may be 2 reasons. 1. BMS goes into sleep mode when there is a fault detected. Try feeding a 12v in P+ and P- to wake it up. 2. Check connections or Faulty BMS Let me know after trying this
@ItzKeshav74 Жыл бұрын
Hello. I just wanted to ask that would it would if i excatly follow your video steps cause in comments there are many things I am not able to understand like bms . my wifi is 2Amp and 12 V . and power bank is 5V and 2.4 amps Please reply I have ordered the thing you suggested Thanks
@rabaserongyoungman28363 жыл бұрын
Hi i have a question, i am out of the other items, can i not put the boost converter and the leds? I just want like a battery pack switch to it when power is out. Thanks
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Hi, yes you can do that. Ensure you battery pack output voltage is same as router voltage specs.
@kalekamal3743 жыл бұрын
I Can't get this 680 Ohm can I use other instead of 680 Ohm? If so, which one to use?
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Hi, you can use 1K ohm resistor instead.
@tmmedia72 жыл бұрын
Hi It was excellent for me, Can u plz tell me that can we use 9v or 5 adapter for this mini ups input for charging the batteries or we have to use proper 12v adapter?
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Hi, For proper charging you need to use 12.6v adaptor. If you prefer to use a 9v or a 5v input you have to use a constant current step up converter. This can be a solution but costlier too when compared to a 12v adaptor.
@tmmedia72 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks, i search alot about making mini ups, but ur video was unique and easy, i made my own ups by ur video, would u plz send me ur whats app no ?
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Glad to know. You can connect with me over telegram "DIY Community".
@bmsth63339 ай бұрын
Hi very good video. But i have a question can i use 20A bms for this???
@DIYCommunity8 ай бұрын
Hi Yes you can.
@sj4433u8 ай бұрын
i guess there is a mistake in diagram image....... from bms positive there is a wire directly connected to out port with 4007 diode ......please check and let me kno is it correct or mistake
@BiBIN06193 ай бұрын
I made my ups exactly like in this video and i am only getting 45 mins back up and when its fully drain out it will never turn on itself when the power came back the leds are blinking till i off and on the switch in the ups box. Is there any solution for this problem
@dineshprajapat9316 Жыл бұрын
Xl6009 Over heating Issues Means
@dineshprajapat9316 Жыл бұрын
Plz reply
@DIYCommunity Жыл бұрын
If the load is more than its capacity it gets heated up. If you see the module working normal for a few days and now it started heating up then it could become faulty.
@raichuff9842Ай бұрын
I have maded it but lights not turn on and cable giving output but when connecting to router router dosent turn on
@gajanan252 жыл бұрын
is we use 4007 diode the voltage drops and BMS does not gets proper current, its working great but just a small query.
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Yes i understood and I suggest you to use a schottky diode for lesser voltage and current drop. Let me know if you have any other queries.
@MalcolmJames-cy8fl7 ай бұрын
I am finding it difficult to understand the purpose of the switch. If the switch is in the off position, the UPS battery will be powering the router, all the time, if it is in the on postition then the router will be powered by the input from the UPS power supply. Surely the whole point of the UPS is to keep the router working incase of a power outage. Therefore why not do away with the switch. Your thoughts please.
@waleed992233 жыл бұрын
i am using tplink 940 9 vatt what do u prefer which battery please guide me and 1 thing tell me 1 sell in which vott required
@raeganvallay3465 Жыл бұрын
By adding a bypass on the ups how would it then switch over to use the battery if the power goes out. You see here in South Africa we have a thing called loadshedding ,its where the Government switches our electricity off for a few hours a day and this happens 2 to 3 times a day sometimes more depending what stage we are on.
@DIYCommunity Жыл бұрын
Hi, This works as an inline ups. Battery charging and powering up your device will happen on same time. In absense of main power the voltage from battery takes up the priority and starts powering your router. Based on power rating of router and battery capacity the backup time varies.
@aswingsharif67293 жыл бұрын
does 12v source sufficient to charge the battery through BMS? Shouldn't it need higher voltage to charge the lithium battery rather than just 12v? (don't you need another xl6009 from 12v input to BMS with xl6009 out voltage set to ..say 13.5 v?)
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Hi, the input should be 12.6v to charge the battery full. Yes we can have a XL6009 module in the input as well when the battery capacity is less than 3A. When battery amp is more then we have to choose a converter which can handle that current.
@Abdullah946012 жыл бұрын
@@DIYCommunitywhere to put xl6009 in the input before or after the diode?
@Abdullah946012 жыл бұрын
where to put xl6009 in the input before or after the diode?
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Hi, if you are planning to use a converter in input section to fed 12.6v to battery, use it before diode. And ensure using a converter that handles your battery current or else it may heat up.
@Abdullah946012 жыл бұрын
@@DIYCommunity i am using xl6009 at 12.7 or 12.8 v
@yuzupiku20103 ай бұрын
Jio 12 volt 2.5 ampere router mey kitna time backup dega...??
@MrSupernova1113 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool! Thanks!!
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@Fnta_discovery6 ай бұрын
Hi, what did you use to drill the holes for the witch and jack plug?
@DIYCommunity6 ай бұрын
Hi, Just try with a sharp scissors on pvc or use a heated rod.
@Fnta_discovery6 ай бұрын
@@DIYCommunity ok thanks 👍
@AvijitDharPhotography Жыл бұрын
Is it necessary to connect a XL6009 Module with 3S 10Amp BMS? Can I make a UPS with the same process and same materials but except the XL6009
@DIYCommunity Жыл бұрын
Hi XL6009 in circuit is to maintain a constant output of 12v to router even when battery is low. Kindly test your router whether it runs on low voltage with same performance without this step up booster module.
@arunkumarrawat30982 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. The ckt. works well but the bypass line is draining the battery even when the switch is off.
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Thanks. You can connect the bypass line before the diode in input side. This will avoid connecting to the battery.
@aadhithyapattabiraman67543 жыл бұрын
When the switch is 'on' in the ups, though the current is also 'on' in our house, does the router works on AC power supply or the DC 12v battery ?
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Hi, There is a bypass line provided and its independent of UPS switch. When Switch is kept ON your router still get supply for your Adapter. and the supply is balanced by battery power when there is a fluctuation or a power cut. The battery charges even without turning ON the switch. Hope this helps!
@aadhithyapattabiraman67543 жыл бұрын
But if the switch is on permanently, will there be a loss of current in it from the battery? And will the ups provide 12v 2amp rating?
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
No there won't be any losses. Your router get enought power from the bypass line.
@aadhithyapattabiraman67543 жыл бұрын
@@DIYCommunity And sorry to disturb you ,will it provide 12v 2amp power?
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
It directly passes the output from your adapter connected. If your current is more than 1A use 1N5408 diode in bypass line which has a current carrying capacity of 3A.
@mirubalishah9731 Жыл бұрын
Can we use relay for automatically cutoff charging
@MythBustInHindi Жыл бұрын
Bro can I use 0v and 12.5v point in my bms board for output rather than using the output point... Bcoz I have noticed my bms doesn't provide voltage from output point once it reach to 8v it stop working
@pankajmehar28547 ай бұрын
Did you checked by connecting it
@delsoduarte88662 ай бұрын
Esse módulo XL6009 é perigoso, entra não que é fria. Se a tensão na entrada cair a 3,5 volts, a saída chega a 40 volts, ou seja, erro feio de projeto, problema exclusivo desse chip.
@rafaelkonishimotta27562 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to add more baterries so they provide the 12v needed, perhaps using a different charge controller? Does the booster itself consume any current to work?
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
You can add more batteries in parallel and choose a BMS/charge controller according which suits lithium ion battery.
@shaiksaleem42742 ай бұрын
What is use of 2 diodes on output
@kieferjohndumpit24492 жыл бұрын
can i ask what is the use for the diode? in the in and out of the 12volt
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Diodes are used to stop the back current. As both input and output has same dc jack there are chances of connecting it wrongly. Diodes will protect the wrong flow and safe guard this ups.
@kieferjohndumpit24492 жыл бұрын
@@DIYCommunity okay thank you for the information
@joshuacwilson61873 жыл бұрын
Good job bro!
@itspratik Жыл бұрын
bought ups from amazon.i disassembled it to add more batteries. one thing i noticed is it doesn’t have any bms module. so is it necessary to add bms module? does bms module have effect on charging time? currently getting 12hour backup with added batteries but charging time is high. need to reduce it
@DIYCommunity Жыл бұрын
Hi, is that UPS made of lithium ion battery ? did you see any other pcb circuit? Because without a BMS circuit charging lithium battery is dangerous. BMS balances all the cells and it protect from over change and low discharge. I recommend you to add a BMS. To improve charging use a higher ampere charger than what you use currently. Again charge using BMS only.
@celeron.263 жыл бұрын
Very nice UPS Sir😊
@anuruddhadissanayake48812 жыл бұрын
Hi, can I connect a 12v 7ah battery instead of the 18650 set ? Can I directly connect it to the XL6009 ? No need of a BMS right ?
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Yes you can avoid using BMS. Instead you need to make a charging and cutoff circuit for your lead acid battery to work. Connect a boost converter in output is battery and vary the voltage according to your router.
@irshuirshuz93333 жыл бұрын
I think there is a mistake in this circute.. one of the output diode anode directly conected to bms P+.. mean the diode alow the volt to output which result the output never off even the swich is off until the bms get the discharge voltage. Better the output diode anode connect to input diode anode.
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Hi, you deserve a heart from me, Yes the connection for bypass is suppose to be from input line before the diode.
@irshuirshuz93333 жыл бұрын
@@DIYCommunity yeh.. and thanks to u, anyway i've made this and tested successfully
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
That's great to know. Stay safe and stay connected!
@Fnta_discovery5 ай бұрын
Hi I would like to know with the input jack is it possible that we can charge the batteries at same time !!
@DIYCommunity4 ай бұрын
Yes the input jack will charge the battery also to bypass power to output.
@Fnta_discovery4 ай бұрын
@@DIYCommunity ok thanks 👌
@abelboby53442 жыл бұрын
Hi! I made the same circuit but with only 1 set of cell(3 batteries),but the backup is only around 10 minutes....and when the current comes back the router lights starts blinking without no reason.Im guessing the batteries are not getting fully charged.... what might be the issue?Can u help me with the problem here? (Everything was done according to ur circuit diagram,no mods were added.)
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Hi, can you tell me what batteries you used. Mak and capacity ? By the way you explain I am guessing battery is draining faster and while charging the power adaptor is not enough to handle both ups and router, because of this ups lights are blinking. Try using a higher amp adaptor if you have. This should solve your problem. Thanks.
@abelboby53442 жыл бұрын
@@DIYCommunity 18650 batteries 3200mah with 3.9v(chkd) And i got 1A adaptor. So how much higher 'A' i need for it to work?
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
You router needs atleast 0.5 A and battery takes 1 to 2 Ampere while charging from low. So try using a 3A changer. If your cells are of good quality you should get a good backup with this capacity.
@cristiansebastianmanfuert8370 Жыл бұрын
hola consulta, necesito conectar 2 router de 12v que tendria que modificar para ponerle 2 salidas. sirve para usarlo siempre conectado y cuando se corte la luz usa las baterias
@rukshanayeshmantha500710 ай бұрын
Is it okay to make this without 4007 diode?
@irapashunnur8237 Жыл бұрын
What is significnc of 3S 10A and 3S 20A. which one is better & why ?
@muhammadyasir7399 Жыл бұрын
i stead of using switch can u use relay ?
@DIYCommunity Жыл бұрын
Yes you can plan to add relay for switching. That needs a different circuit and this one in video is a simple solution.
@sharukhmatekuki58303 жыл бұрын
Good hit 🇮🇳👍👍 Kuki
@AbidAli-bo8sv Жыл бұрын
My router has 12v 1A adapter, will it charge the battery as well as run the router at the same time?
@DIYCommunity Жыл бұрын
Yes it will charge and run your router at same time. When battery is low and BMS shutdown and when power is back you may see light will blink as the ampere is low. During that time you may have to disconnect router for 5min and then connect back.
@AbidAli-bo8sv Жыл бұрын
@@DIYCommunity so, having a 2A adapter would be plus for this setup?
@DIYCommunity Жыл бұрын
Yes definitely. 12.6v to 12.8v volt output with current more that 2A will be best selection.
@romsaymwiti93879 ай бұрын
what is the purpose of putting the diode from p plus of the BMS to the output terminal?
@DIYCommunity9 ай бұрын
Hi, as I used same type of dc socket for input and output diodes are used to protect reverse current if the charger is plugged wrongly to output socket.
@karunsriram33413 жыл бұрын
Hi brother, it is working perfectly fine for me except I noticed the circuit to be working even when i turned off the switch. I feel this affect the router as the bypass voltage from the batteries will be reducing without the bms module. I have now removed the bypass diode due to this problem. Is that okay?
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Hi, you can use the ups without bypass line. It is optional to have this. If you wish to have bypass line which gives direct power from adapter and not from battery tap the +ve wire before the input diode and not from the bms. Hope this helps !
@upulranaweera35972 жыл бұрын
Can I use only 3 batteries?
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Yes you can use only 3 batteries. More batteries added in parallel for more backup. Circuit remains same and only change is Ampere range of BMS.
@shanmugamn7892 жыл бұрын
If possible to use existing battery & bms to lifep04 cells. Back up will be double? (With 4 cells )
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Backup depends purely on capacity (mah) of cells used. And If you are planning to use LiPo4 cells choose a BMS which supports these.
@shisheermandal46383 жыл бұрын
sir kya aap power bank circuit aur xl6009 bosster use karke circuit bana sakte ho?? line se v chale aur line katne k baad powerbank se automatic on hona chahiye
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Hi Shisheer, There is already a video on the same in my channel. Kindly check and Thanks for your interest.
@ra57services5 ай бұрын
Your circuit diagram showed looks wrong. Why there are 2 diodes on output pin ?
@ghah45163 ай бұрын
its true i have 12 volts in out put without the key... when key is open i have 12 in output
@ghah45163 ай бұрын
diagram is wrong and this guy wont answer i think
@wishwamind1060 Жыл бұрын
Nice 😊🤘
@hannanvirtualtv2 жыл бұрын
like this system can continue 3A load?
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Choose a step up converter which can handle 3A load. Rest all remains same.
@hannanvirtualtv2 жыл бұрын
chager 12v 5amh charger can use?
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Yes you can. The circuit consumes only what current it requires.
@whatteverr3 жыл бұрын
isn't bms supply 12v ? can i connect router/onu direct from bms ? is it necessary to use booster ?
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Hi, when battery is discharging the output will not be 12v. To maintain a constant output boost converter is used here.
@whatteverr3 жыл бұрын
@@DIYCommunity Can I make 2 12v output for using router & onu both from 1 booster circuit or need to be added 1 more?
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Hi, if your load is less than 3A you can use with same boost converter. If load is more use 2 converter or go for converter with higher current rating.
@antopiac72492 жыл бұрын
Hello, is it normal that the 4007 diode at input socket becomes very very hot? It touched the enclosure and burned a bit it. I can melt the tin without soldering iron on it. If I use different size diode can I reduce this temperature?
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Hi, yes you can use a 2A schottky diode which can handle more current and voltage.
@antopiac72492 жыл бұрын
I replaced the 1N4007 with a FR207 (2A 1KV), now the temperature is 100°C, still is high, but for sure 3 times less. Thanks.
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Thanks for confirming. kindly choose diode according to your battery capacity. It should not be hot until more current is drawn at its maximum limit.
@antopiac72492 жыл бұрын
@@DIYCommunity it is very hot in the charging when the battery is very low
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it draws more current while charging. If you can able to measure the current drawn it will help to choose the correct diode. Or choose a diode which current limit is more than your charger.
@crysteljanetolero33533 жыл бұрын
Hi im planning to build this project i planed that i will going to put a volt meter where i can put in the output voltage? and i confused about the resistor in the diagram only 680 ohm but in the video there are 2 resistor and how many watts 1/4? and also in the diode is that in4007 or 4007 only thank you
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Thanks for showing interest in making this ups. 1.You can couple a voltmeter in output dc jack. 2. I have used 2 resistor in parallel as I did not had a 680ohm. You can use one this is to only drive the led. You can also use 1kohm. 3. Use 1N5422 or any Schottky diode which has low voltage drop and 3A current carrying capacity. Feel free to ask if any other information needed. Hope this helps !
@crysteljanetolero33533 жыл бұрын
@@DIYCommunity thank you for fast response can i use in4007 diode?
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Hi, yes you can use 1n4007. There will be a small voltage drop inbetween them.
@crysteljanetolero33533 жыл бұрын
@@DIYCommunity thank you so much for replying asap im still waiting for my orders i will be back if i already finish that project and for some other questions
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome. Feel free to post your questions.
@nilangarukshan84642 жыл бұрын
Will it be a problem to use the XL 4015 Module without using the 3S 10A BMS?
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Hi, BMS is required to charge and manage your lithium ion battery. You cannot avoid it for safer usage.
@nilangarukshan84642 жыл бұрын
@@DIYCommunity I put four batteries. It's okay, isn't it?
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
For 3S BMS you should be using 3 cells. And if want to increase the backup use other 3 in parallel to those first ones.
@ashiqhussainbaig98012 жыл бұрын
Can i use 20amp bms for 12v single wifi router
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Yes you can
@techtag91703 жыл бұрын
Usefull contact like it ✅💙
@Raul_Herrera3 жыл бұрын
Hello, very good this UPS !. I'm going to build one, but I need to power the 12V 1.5A router and a 12V 1A fiber optic POE. What modifications should I make to your circuit to adapt it and power my two devices? Thanks a lot!
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Hi, boost converter used in this circuit can handle upto 3A, so only modification you need is to add an extra socket to connect your fibre optic POE. No major changes required.
@Numan-Nagi Жыл бұрын
@@DIYCommunity can I use lm2496 module with this circuit? ❤
@DIYCommunity Жыл бұрын
Hi, lm2596 is a stepdown convertor. You can use it when you router requires voltage less than 12v. ie, 9v or 5v.
@Numan-Nagi Жыл бұрын
@@DIYCommunity my router is 12v 1.5amp battery gives 14to17 volts output
@arifkhanada2 жыл бұрын
The BMS discontinue the current flow as soon as hits below 11.5volts on the batteries. I have 6 18650 li_ion batteries connected to a 10A BMS 3S. The backup time is only a few minutes on a 12v 1amp internet modem. Please advise on how to increase the backup time. thank you
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Hi, here the battery is not charged full. It requires 12.6 volt to attain full charge. Replace the adaptor and replace the input diode to a schottky diode which allows more voltage and current to pass through.
@arifkhanada2 жыл бұрын
@@DIYCommunity hi. Thank you for responding. Actually, Even after the battery is charged to 12.6 volts, still, the BMS cutoff the power after hitting 11.49 volts. (The over-discharge feature.) 12.6v max and 11.49v min is not enough of a window. I’d rather have the lower limit down to 9volts maybe? 12.6v max and 9volts mim for the BMS’s over charge and over discharge. Please advise
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Hi, i don't think there is an option to adjust the cut off voltage in BMS. What I remember was a 3S BMS has a cut off of 10v. Will check and come back on this. If you know any method to change the cutoff pls share it here.
@gamingtamil47682 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm trying to use 3 cells. What BMS should I use?
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
You can use same 3S bms but you can reduce the ampere rating according to battery capacity.
@parthmendiratta5333 жыл бұрын
Can we use 2 Li ion cells - 7.4v battery pack and boost it to 12v ? Please reply. Thank you
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Yes you can use 2 cells. Choose a charger of 8.4volt and 2Sbms board. You can also use a 9v adapter to and connect a diode to reduce its voltage to 8.4v.
@quantenschaum2 жыл бұрын
Nice, but you only need to use DC-DC converters when using a different voltage at in/out or even several outputs at different voltages or when the voltage does not match the voltage of the battery. Basically only a 3S battery pack with a BMS hooked up in parallel to the power supply would do it in this case (12V). The BMS you used is not balancing afaik, I would recommend to use a BMS with integrated balancer.
@technicalsohil40632 жыл бұрын
i am using this video refrence from 1 year .its going butter smooth with no issue.
@gerellabel73843 жыл бұрын
the adaptor input is connected also to the battery base on the diagram.why is that if the ups switch is off, theres no power on the router even though the adaptor is paralleled to the battery?
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Hi, the negative is common on whole circuit. And there is a bypass line provided which will power your router independent of ups switch.
@sspatel32193 жыл бұрын
I have some doubts, in my area there are power cuts many times for 15 to 30 min but not more than hour, is it sufficient to use 3 18650 old cells of 2500mah capacity. My router uses 12v 1.5A. After the power cut is there any gap(delay) to switch in battery mode? And the last one is that i think it is using battery power all the time even in charging time also means it is charging from one side and discharging from another side.
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Hi, with Three 2500mah batteries in series can give upto 2hrs of backup. The above said can be achieved only with original batteries. As you said if there are frequent power cut the batteries may not charge full to survive for another power cut. With this circuit the will not be any gap in switching and no fluctuations during power cut. My suggestion is if you are planning for a longer backup then plan for making 2S or 3S battery pack with original & good capacity cells.
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Hi, if your router is of 12v. Try once to connect the bms output directly without boost converter. The problem you are facing is that your BMS is going to sleep mode. And reason might be one or more faulty batteries or load is very less.
@sspatel32192 жыл бұрын
@Lyrical Beat Box🎵 📢 brother tell me your router name. mine is working fine with 6 cells of 2000 mah capacity without any booster (12v !amp) getting 3 to 4 hrs backup.
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Mine is a Nokia router. The problem you see with boost converter could be because of non original or a faulty one. You can use the setup without boost converter for now but I recommend buying a good one and integrate it is a better solution for long term usage.
@_Nats263 жыл бұрын
you use stranded wire or solid wire?
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I used multi strand wire. You can use a single strand copper wire also.
@krishnachoubey41652 жыл бұрын
Great effort 👌 I have two questions on this video 1. As u know there is a landline output so can I connect my landline to the router while using the mini ups? (NOTE: hardly I receive one or two calls in my landline per week means there is no much usage) 2. We know that when power goes it automatically works on UPS's battery but when power is back does it still work on battery? My concern is battery might be over charged as we use this ups 24*7 hence battery life will come down Plz clear my doubt plz
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Hi, here are my answers 1. Yes you can connect landline to router as it does not consume more extra power. The router drives the landline and we just power the router with same voltage. 2. This is a inline ups. Charging and discharging is managed by BMS connected to it. I am using it on tata play router with a landline connected. Almost 2 years now and never see my router is off.
@krishnachoubey41652 жыл бұрын
@@DIYCommunity tnx dear Now I will connect my landline and let the router be On 24/7 via ups Once again thank a lot And yes it's really an excellent presentation in the video Great effort you have put to complete this video
@azimsheikh65243 жыл бұрын
buck converter ki jaga 7809 laga sakte ha ??
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Voltage converter IC can be used for low power uses as it has capacity to carry less than 1A current. It may not work properly with routers.
@azimsheikh65243 жыл бұрын
@@DIYCommunity ok
@alexmandal3 жыл бұрын
With 12v power supply yr batteries will never fully charge. How long will they last? 3months?
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Thanks for your comment. what you say is for lead acid batteries and here we have used lithium ion batteries and with a BMS the battery is charged full and discharges to a limit so ensuring a longer battery life. Happy to answer if you have any other queries!
@alexmandal3 жыл бұрын
@@DIYCommunity 3x4.2v=12.6v... Measure yr adapter volt, it'll be max 12.5 hence yr batteries will never fully charge... Read yr BMS manual
@DIYCommunity3 жыл бұрын
Hi, yes my adapter delivers a voltage of 12.5, Measured 2 of them which I had and they measure same.
@samtiny63323 жыл бұрын
u r right but 12.6 adapter is hard to find or take more cost
@alexmandal3 жыл бұрын
@@samtiny6332 use 12V 2/3/4/5A smps or LED drivers which r abundantly available. They have trimmer to adjust from ~10v-14v. Otherwise u can change the biasing resistor of existing 12v adapter for +/-1v safely, there's many utube guide vdos. But then again, opening a sealed shut adapter will be destructive.
@huznaa93602 ай бұрын
You had extra resistors added what ohms and why bro
@DIYCommunity2 ай бұрын
Add 1k ohm for led. I did not had 1k so used an extra to match the value.
@bikimadhu2133 Жыл бұрын
Bhai kya chhoti battery ki jagah Par pc UPS ki battery use nahin kar sakta kya please reply batao 🙏🙏
@ruwantharatnayake50042 жыл бұрын
Can we use 3S 20A insted of 3S 10A? what alternations needs to be made?
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Yes you can use 20A BMS and no alterations required. In future if you want you can add more batteries upto 20A.
@irapashunnur8237 Жыл бұрын
Why is 3S 20A required ? it should work with 3S 10A
@irapashunnur8237 Жыл бұрын
XL6009 will reduce the back-up time. I hope we can avoid using it. What do you think. What will happen if we dont use XL6009. Is it neccessary ? what about diodes, do we need to use diode in the input of 12 V adapter and also in the input of the XL6009 pcb ? Why is it required ? Pl reply
@morchattisgarh2 жыл бұрын
I made a mini router ups using your video But i am facing an issue Whenever i plug out the adapter from the ups in running state The whole circuit went off and showing 0 voltage in meter until i switch the power button off and on What should be the reason I am using 3 set of 10000 mah power bank battery means i have 10 ampere so which diode should i use. I am using 3s 20A bms for this 30000 mah battery
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Hi, i recommend you to check the connections. Remove the bypass line and check whether ups is on all times. Also if you are using old cells there are chances of any faulty cells in you ups so find that and replace. Because of this BMS may get into sleep mode. And you can use a 2A schottky diode in input which has high voltage and current carrying capacity.
@jayashrigandudi8484 Жыл бұрын
Sir can we use 3s 20amp bms
@DIYCommunity Жыл бұрын
Yes you can use
@jayashrigandudi8484 Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@santanubandyopadhyay21892 жыл бұрын
any link for batteries ? also , the booster ckt is not available in amazon
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
Hi, you can google for Roofers make lithium ion batteries and buy as per the capacity you are planning. Booster ckt ? You mean boost converter ? If so you can but that also online. Search for XL6009 boost converter.
@santanubandyopadhyay21892 жыл бұрын
@@DIYCommunity thanks any way i can make it for two routers .. i have one anu and one router both 12 v 1.5amp
@santanubandyopadhyay21892 жыл бұрын
@@DIYCommunity Also , u are using 6 * 2000 mah batteries right ?
@DIYCommunity2 жыл бұрын
I have reused cells from old laptop battery. 3 cells in series x 3, each is of 2600mah. Again as they are old their capacity might have reduced. New batteries should give more backup and longer life.