Wild Turkey Rare Breed NON-CHILL FILTERED! Is there a big difference? DOUBLE BASS!

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The Mash and Drum

The Mash and Drum

Күн бұрын

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@ImCastorTroy45
@ImCastorTroy45 2 жыл бұрын
Rare breed is such a banger. Price, proof, taste and availability. Checks all the boxes. My goto.
@michaelhoffer9172
@michaelhoffer9172 2 жыл бұрын
Rare Breed is one of my staples. Picked up a bottle today for $37.61. Best value in bourbon.
@mikedubs9940
@mikedubs9940 2 жыл бұрын
Not FLA?
@Mojoe70
@Mojoe70 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikedubs9940 I am in Fl and I have found it at Sam's Club for $42
@mitchilito99
@mitchilito99 Жыл бұрын
This was a great review. I LOVE Rare Breed and always felt a little sorry that I would probably never taste the NCF version. Now I don't care at all. Thanks, Jason!
@stuffandwhiskey
@stuffandwhiskey 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on with what we experienced double blind between these two-slightly more flavor punch on the NCF Rare Breed but a touch more balance and texture on the standard offering. Good to see that hold true for others as well. Great video Jason!
@robertbooth3367
@robertbooth3367 Жыл бұрын
JC - always have a Rare Breed and RB rye on my shelf. One of the best values in bourbon - period. Grabbed a bottle of the 'travel' version on the way back from Canada at the Duty Free - opened it last night and it freekin blew me away! I found a HUGE difference to the point that I would rank it in my top 10 of all time ! Not sure why, but it was SO sweet and drank closer to 100° than the actual 118.3. Incredible. Perhaps I lucked out with a particularly great batch, but again, Holy crap 😳 Thinking about taking a trip back to the duty free to grab a couple more even if I have to pay the duty on them ! Normally I wouldn't have grabbed a Rare Breed at a duty free so thanks for making me aware that it was there and the difference from the regular version. Keep on keeping it real
@DC632A
@DC632A 2 жыл бұрын
I just got this today. I was getting the Kentucky Spirit but can’t find it so bought this. I really like it. It doesn’t sip like 116.8 proof. Sips more like 100. Smooth and delicious
@stevescattaregia
@stevescattaregia 20 күн бұрын
Picked up a NCF from an auction site. Love it, but love regular Rare Breed, too. Great, balanced review, Jason.
@archipelago93
@archipelago93 2 жыл бұрын
Man if there is one bourbon to compare when controlling for everything BUT chill-filtration to see if it makes a difference, Rare Breed HAS to be it. Great idea for a video!
@josephthomas2226
@josephthomas2226 2 ай бұрын
i have never seen it, but we have not been out of the country since before covid. A liter for $45? Considering that the BEST price on RB is $50 for a 750 (everywhere I shop), and it's usually55 or 60) , I would pick up 2 or 3 of them if the cruise ship allows that.
@jimm8799
@jimm8799 2 жыл бұрын
The differences are going to be subtle, but as you say, why chill filter? They do it so it won’t go cloudy when people mix it. I wouldn’t search for it, but would certainly pick the nonchillfiltered. I have made purchasing decisions based on that (buy this or that).
@johnpickett8533
@johnpickett8533 2 жыл бұрын
I'm diggin your show.
@AlainDoiron
@AlainDoiron 2 жыл бұрын
Could they both be the same and non-chill filtered.... and the just the travel retail has different branding / marketing for the scotch crowd ?
@80Demitri
@80Demitri 2 жыл бұрын
I believe so as JR stated that RB was not chill filtered...this is complete bullshit
@robertbooth3367
@robertbooth3367 2 жыл бұрын
Good eval. Pretty much called it. Grab it if you can at retail, but not worth hunting or anything north of msrp. Good point also on why they chill filter the 'regular' Rare Breed. Never really thought about it before. Keep on keeping it real Jason C
@robertshay9235
@robertshay9235 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! This bottle has been something I was wondering about. If I run into the travel bottle, I’ll get it but I ain’t hunting or paying secondary for it
@MrChristopherMolloy
@MrChristopherMolloy 2 жыл бұрын
Is Chill Haze still a thing above 46% ABV?
@BSims-MD410
@BSims-MD410 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review Jason, thanks for your honesty, cheers
@johncannon3593
@johncannon3593 Жыл бұрын
I picked this bottle up at Heathrow in December and finally opened it. I was very impressed, but I didn't do a side-by-side (I am out of the regular at the moment). But damn, I liked it a lot (then again, I also love the regular). But given that its about the same price and maybe a hair better (because chill filtering never does anything positive, IMHO), it's definitely worth the buy if you are a Turkey fan.
@christinedaisy594
@christinedaisy594 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love Rare Breed 🥃
@gregmartin1757
@gregmartin1757 2 жыл бұрын
Great review and comparison and a cousin vinny reference is always a + Always have enjoyed wild Turkey bourbon since i first tried it as a yout..
@larryfairbanks7783
@larryfairbanks7783 2 жыл бұрын
This Rare Breed is rotgut guys. Please stay away from it. Excuse me while I run and pick up a couple of backups due to this will be allocated soon. My cabinet might as well be empty without it and Knob Creek Single Barrel.
@DimitarShishkov
@DimitarShishkov 2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea that the standard Rare Breed was chill filtered, that makes no sense, why would you do that on something that is almost 120 proof. Thanks for the review.
@marcwhiskey
@marcwhiskey 2 жыл бұрын
It is necessarily chill filtered. It just isn't stated on the label.
@ranman1959
@ranman1959 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Strange that WTRB Rye is NCF but the bourbon isn't.
@philc1884
@philc1884 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, had no idea the original was chill filtered. Nice of WT to put it in 1L. Looking frwd to the non-chill markup in NY.
@terrytorres4518
@terrytorres4518 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jason, I have noticed several label changes with some of my favorite bourbons lately. Those changes to the label have also come with changes to the whiskey. Here are two Bourbons I have definitely noticed a difference in the flavor - Old Forester 1920 and Knob Creek Reserve (120 proof), new label VS old label. I have done side by side comparisons with both of these. It would be great to have your opinion and input on this. Thank You!
@johnpickett8533
@johnpickett8533 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you for sure.
@terrytorres4518
@terrytorres4518 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnpickett8533 Thanks John. Have you noticed any changes in taste to the other Old Forester Signature Series that have had the label changes? I contacted Old Forester and the rep told me they have not changed the recipe. They ask for the Laser Print ID on the bottle for verification. FYI - that can be found on the bottom rim not the underside and typically starts with the letter F. Since the 1920 is my fav in that series I bought up what I could find of the old label. I have also notice the New Label 1920 has dropped in price and is continually on sale. I hope they bring back the old version. Would appreciate your input.
@johnpickett8533
@johnpickett8533 2 жыл бұрын
@@terrytorres4518 I'm in Nashville area,it's now $60 to $65 here in most stores. I've not had 1910 in a while, I'm sitting on a couple bottles. I definitely think the new label is different, I imagine various processes and aging , warehouse locations, can all effect the outcome. It may not be a deliberate change ,but something is definitely different in 1920. I have other OF products, but not enough to notice if something changed.
@terrytorres4518
@terrytorres4518 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnpickett8533 I agree, there are conditions that will effect the taste but Old Forester has been so consistent with their quality over the years, it's hard for me to believe they don't notice the change in their finished product. I'm in the SF Bay Area CA. and O.F. 1920 now averages $52. It's good to know the others in the series have not been effected. Thanks Again John.
@johnpickett8533
@johnpickett8533 2 жыл бұрын
@@terrytorres4518 I've not noticed it in other selections. Only 1920
@philb6409
@philb6409 2 жыл бұрын
Thx for the info on the chill filtering process; never really knew.
@Jared40
@Jared40 2 жыл бұрын
Future Double Bass Old Forester 100 proof vs Cooper's Craft 100 🥃🥃
@MrChristopherMolloy
@MrChristopherMolloy 2 жыл бұрын
Have you EVER met someone who said that they had a problem with hazy whiskey or someone who wished a whiskey was chillfiltered?
@jskypercussion
@jskypercussion 2 жыл бұрын
Nope I never had. I don't care either, all I care about is if it smells and tastes fantastic.
@MrChristopherMolloy
@MrChristopherMolloy 2 жыл бұрын
@@jskypercussion Agreed 👍
@johncannon3593
@johncannon3593 Жыл бұрын
Besides, above what, 93-ish proof, the haze doesn't happen anyway, and who drinks bourbon below 93 proof?!?!
@MrChristopherMolloy
@MrChristopherMolloy Жыл бұрын
@@johncannon3593 I occasionally do.
@johncannon3593
@johncannon3593 Жыл бұрын
@@MrChristopherMolloy are there even bourbons that low? Okay, I know there are, but they aren’t common outside of Jack and Jim and the baseline stuff. Basil Hayden is the only one I can think of.
@IC86
@IC86 2 жыл бұрын
Good review, thanks for posting it. I love WTRB bourbon and rye. I’m not going to search for the non-chill-filtered, but would pick up a bottle if it was on the shelf, slapped me in the face and made me beg for my mama.😎
@shibby67
@shibby67 2 жыл бұрын
Just picked one up for $42 USD in Punta Cana. Can’t wait to pop it!
@greircrabtree6940
@greircrabtree6940 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought it was non chill filtered. Learn something new. Big Turkey fan, especially Rare Breed! Well done.
@mattd2180
@mattd2180 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you doing this one Jason. The NCF rare breed has been showing up all over the Columbus secondary, which I’m sure you know, and I’ve wondered if there was that big a difference given what it’s going for. Cheers 🥃
@Dafoodmaster
@Dafoodmaster 2 жыл бұрын
hmm could it be the same juice in both? you don't really *have* to chill filter for clarity above 46% alcohol anyway - maybe they just put it on the fancy 1l travel retail version because "hey, it's non-chillfiltered anyway!" who knows - can't find anything on the german websites either, but i think they only have to legally mention caramel coloring, which isn't an issue with bourbon of course
@bradleywalden7349
@bradleywalden7349 2 жыл бұрын
Please follow this tasting with a comparison of a non-chill filtered Weller antique 107 store pick with a regular on the shelf version.
@MrChristopherMolloy
@MrChristopherMolloy 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, I thought Chill Haze wasn't a thing above 46% ABV?
@TheMashandDrum
@TheMashandDrum 2 жыл бұрын
That's why I question them chill filtering for that reason.
@docrat2
@docrat2 2 жыл бұрын
Rare Breed is excellent like all Turkey products, thanks for the review- interesting 🥃
@pressman1788
@pressman1788 2 жыл бұрын
My cousin Vinny reference reminds me of simpler times. Great movie! Cheers Jason! 🥃👍🏻🇺🇸
@dbltime
@dbltime 2 жыл бұрын
WT Rare Breed is an exceptional bourbon! Thanks for the review and comparison.
@christopherciulla8190
@christopherciulla8190 2 жыл бұрын
I’m diggin the new intro!!
@jamiewilliams3154
@jamiewilliams3154 2 жыл бұрын
Last month i picked up 2 bottle of the NCF for $50 a piece. Not bad at all for one liters
@TheWhiskyExplorer
@TheWhiskyExplorer 2 жыл бұрын
Great J. Really appreciate this comparison. 🦃🥃
@cnwilliams59
@cnwilliams59 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review
@elicook152
@elicook152 2 жыл бұрын
Been wondering about this! Thanks for the review!
@czrs85
@czrs85 2 жыл бұрын
I have a few of them but need to pop one open. Couldn't find regular rare breed. So when I was traveling, decided to bring back as many possible.
@Loot_Train
@Loot_Train 2 жыл бұрын
Ive been dying to know the difference, thank you Jason!
@marcusmobley7519
@marcusmobley7519 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to Columbus this week for work where is the best bourbon selection?
@badgerjeff6081
@badgerjeff6081 2 жыл бұрын
Super helpful review!
@2ASHKENAZI
@2ASHKENAZI 2 жыл бұрын
Where do you buy RB NCF?
@blindsquirrel3123
@blindsquirrel3123 2 жыл бұрын
Great review as always. I have a buddy doing some international travels over the next couple of months. I’ll have him snatch up a couple if he sees them.
@mamuka1977
@mamuka1977 2 жыл бұрын
It is kind of weird why do they chill filter wild turkey rare breed, it is still great great whiskey and the value for money. Next time I'm flying overseas I will definitely look for non-chill filtering just to compare. Thank you for a great video. PS cousin Vinny is cool)))
@bourbonapprentice
@bourbonapprentice 2 жыл бұрын
Well you saved me from looking to secondary for the NCF but I’d like to find one at a reasonable price
@Jared40
@Jared40 2 жыл бұрын
Rare Breed best value for the buck still see it here in Colorado around $45 🥃🦃👍🏻gobble til you wobble
@welshtoro3256
@welshtoro3256 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review and you reach the same conclusion as Turkey guru, Rarebird 101. In the hardcore whisky community the issue of filtering is serious. However, many Scotch heads don't understand how drinks in hot climates are routinely served with ice. In my second home, Spain, it's automatic in bars and restaurants. If you say "no ice" you are treated as macho man #1 with big cojones. That 'normal' market is a very large market worth millions. I tell people that in the Scotch world because a lot of stuff is sold in bars and restaurants to folk who think 40% is firewater. Rare Breed is unlikely to be sold like that so I don't know why it's filtered unless it's sold in bars in the States. By the way, my finest rediscovery this year is how good 101 is. Man. bang for buck it's amazing. Cheers buddy. WT
@jimwilhelm4343
@jimwilhelm4343 2 жыл бұрын
I would have liked if you had added the Turkey 101. I need to go back and see your comparison you had with the different Turkey products. I just recently tried the Turkey 101 and found it delicious. Have not tried the Russell's Reserve yet. Thanks.
@XtopherMartin
@XtopherMartin 2 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend it. The 101 is a nice litmus test for Rare Breed. The better notes come out in the RB and it's not as hot as you would think for 116.8. RR 10 has nice depth for a lower proof. Haven't gotten the RR SiB, but it will be worth the buy if it's like everything else.
@thomasmcfetridge7631
@thomasmcfetridge7631 2 жыл бұрын
RR 10 and SB are fantastic. The RRSB is the most barrel forward expression from WT’s “sub $100” offerings.
@guitarswhiskeyandgolf
@guitarswhiskeyandgolf 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jason what about a double bass with green spot and yellow spot Irish whisky to compare the two flavor profiles
@nicksinderson3302
@nicksinderson3302 2 жыл бұрын
The bourbon battle l've been enjoying (and then some) is ECBP b522 vs. Larceny bp b522. Both great whiskeys and very different flavor wise but both HH and bp. Plus that b522 Larceny batch to my mind gives ECBP some stiff competition.
@Mazimo
@Mazimo 2 жыл бұрын
I 100% assumed stateside RB was non chilled filtered. Thank J
@onetwo12onetwo526
@onetwo12onetwo526 2 жыл бұрын
I don't sniff whiskey I drink it! My nose has other duties 🤣🥶💨💭
@brianjubrey2520
@brianjubrey2520 2 жыл бұрын
Worth trading an EHT small batch for One of these?
@par43532002
@par43532002 2 жыл бұрын
So I went to a local liquor store in Cbus today, off of Polaris Parkway and noticed they had both Rare Breed Rye and Rare Breed Bourbon. Curiously enough the Rye's label says it is Chill Filtered, of course the Bourbon does not. Why would Wild Turkey go to the trouble of chill filtering the Rye, but not the Bourbon??? Any thoughts????
@AaRrod
@AaRrod Ай бұрын
Just tried Rare Breed because of all the hype and was disappointed. It has a very "musty" nose and it drinks spicier than that of similar proofed whiskeys. I've also been wanting to try a Russell's reserve single barrel / private barrel...do those also have the funky nose and palate?
@justinjenkins598
@justinjenkins598 2 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to se KC12 cask strength vs bookers
@wg1408
@wg1408 2 жыл бұрын
Got a Russell's batch 1 and 2. Can you do a comparison?
@TheMashandDrum
@TheMashandDrum 2 жыл бұрын
Russell's batch 1?
@wg1408
@wg1408 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMashandDrum sorry...r13 batch 1 vs batch 2. Laser code JL vs JD
@TheMashandDrum
@TheMashandDrum 2 жыл бұрын
@@wg1408 oh. Yeah I don't have a russell's 13 batch 2 and probably won't see one. I will try.
@wg1408
@wg1408 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMashandDrum I should be able to snag a few at MSRP. I can send you a few samples.
@TheMashandDrum
@TheMashandDrum 2 жыл бұрын
@@wg1408 enail me at themashanddrum@gmail.com
@christianeifel-guy9279
@christianeifel-guy9279 2 жыл бұрын
So I more or less bought another litre of bog-standard Rare Breed? Somehow I'm just fine with that
@ABVDrinker
@ABVDrinker 2 жыл бұрын
I like Rare breed, going to have to try the non chill filtered for sure. What word is before Domani? Salute Paesano!
@dklassman
@dklassman 2 жыл бұрын
Jason where did you get the sick Turkey hat? thanks!
@TheMashandDrum
@TheMashandDrum 2 жыл бұрын
The distillery. Love it.
@ScoJoTube
@ScoJoTube 2 жыл бұрын
Has anyone ever been offended by the appearance of a non-chill filtered whiskey? I don't care. Why add the extra expense and time into chill filtering when nobody cares?
@dagnasty4029
@dagnasty4029 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, any difference with the color?
@dagnasty4029
@dagnasty4029 2 жыл бұрын
Oh..love the comparison and didn't even know non-chill filtered came out. Love the content as always.
@TheMashandDrum
@TheMashandDrum 2 жыл бұрын
Nope. I looked but nothing super noticeable
@johncashion8428
@johncashion8428 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think you’ve done coopers craft 100 vs early times bib Doing all 3 different bottles of early times bib would be interesting also.
@Richie.Z
@Richie.Z 2 жыл бұрын
I like Wild Turkey 🦃 ::gobble gobble::🥃😊
@jskypercussion
@jskypercussion 2 жыл бұрын
Gobble Gobble
@mikemazz8838
@mikemazz8838 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff here
@michaellambright7968
@michaellambright7968 2 жыл бұрын
DJ reviewed this one and said there isn’t a difference except for the mouthfeel. Well, duh? That’s what chill filtering does. It’s not going to change the nose. Cmon guys.
@TheMashandDrum
@TheMashandDrum 2 жыл бұрын
Changed the nose for me. I got more flavor on the NCF but a better texture on the regular. I think they are just too close.
@EthEdr
@EthEdr 2 жыл бұрын
So I’ve never bought whiskey in the travel market. Can I drive to my closest airport and find a liquor store (without going through a gate) and get special releases?
@TheMashandDrum
@TheMashandDrum 2 жыл бұрын
Well you have to be traveling somewhere. They ask for a boarding pass and passport before you purchase
@EthEdr
@EthEdr 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMashandDrum Ok got it. Thank you.
@tscherer7542
@tscherer7542 2 жыл бұрын
Batch to batch variability? Proof differences? Time opened/ fill level? Please comment on the full set of variables at play… otherwise youve provided some interesting info (i didnt know RB was CF, or that a nonCF travel 1L format existed) but the conclusions fundamentally lack rigor that folks expect or assume is there.
@TheMashandDrum
@TheMashandDrum 2 жыл бұрын
I said the proofs are the same, both were opened for about the same amount of time and you saw the fill levels. batch to batch variables??..ok...but really this was a test of the NCF version having a different feel and texture.
@tscherer7542
@tscherer7542 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMashandDrum thanks jason. must’ve missed that part- I skipped a short bit of intro inadvertently. That said, i couldnt quite catch what the proofs of each is from the labels. As far as i know, that would affect both taste and texture. What was the diff in ABV value? Not that i really care- regular WT RB is good/ great enough.
@G_P_G
@G_P_G 2 жыл бұрын
Is this offered at stores? Or is it limited to like airports or abroad? Had no idea this was a thing and can't believe it's 1L for $45. I am currently paying around$48 for rare breed filtered for 750ml.
@mackal
@mackal 2 жыл бұрын
Send Matt a sample.
@vihtoripuurola3775
@vihtoripuurola3775 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review. I don't buy any whiskies that are chill filtered. Takes out too much flavor.
@chrisbrown7216
@chrisbrown7216 2 жыл бұрын
Great, guess I'm traveling 😅
@ricardodelorenzo3954
@ricardodelorenzo3954 2 жыл бұрын
They chill-filtered the normal rare breed?
@TheMashandDrum
@TheMashandDrum 2 жыл бұрын
Yep
@joeyridos6726
@joeyridos6726 Жыл бұрын
No, they don't. Jimmy Russell says so right here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKCspH1nfLmIo5o The two whiskies being compared in this video are just two different bottles of the same whiskey
@OrsusButcher
@OrsusButcher 2 жыл бұрын
Rare breed vs Chattanooga 111, do it
@eponine_scheherezade318
@eponine_scheherezade318 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure regular Rare Breed is also non-chillfilitered. Jimmy Russell was talking about it interviews years ago.
@TheMashandDrum
@TheMashandDrum 2 жыл бұрын
Its definitely chill filtered. rare breed rye is non-chill filtered but the bourbon is. Releasing a travel retail non-chill filtered version of the bourbon was the difference.
@joeyridos6726
@joeyridos6726 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheMashandDrum the regular version of rare breed is definitely not chill filtered. Jimmy Russell says so right here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKCspH1nfLmIo5o If we are to believe JR himself, which we should be inclined to do, then it's easy to understand that the "non chill filtered" on the travel exclusive label is for marketing to an international consumer base. It seems as though you spent this video comparing two bottles of the same whiskey to each other
@olivier.st-amand
@olivier.st-amand 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this test! I really think that the chill-filtering debate is a big waste of time...
@johnpickett8533
@johnpickett8533 2 жыл бұрын
Any bourbon that is halfway decent gets marked up...also mark ups on juice that shouldn't even be on the market.
@johnfrei9057
@johnfrei9057 2 жыл бұрын
What’s a “travel bottle”?
@TheMashandDrum
@TheMashandDrum 2 жыл бұрын
Bottles only available in travel retail shops at airports.
@johnfrei9057
@johnfrei9057 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMashandDrum Ah. Thanks.
@mikecostigan9913
@mikecostigan9913 2 жыл бұрын
The Glenncairn Plastic....
@TheMashandDrum
@TheMashandDrum 2 жыл бұрын
No it's black glass.
@mikecostigan9913
@mikecostigan9913 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMashandDrum Sounded like plastic. My mistake.
@gervasioalfaro9333
@gervasioalfaro9333 Жыл бұрын
the travel one is 116.8 proof a bit more than regular one 112.8 proof.
@Piface2099
@Piface2099 2 жыл бұрын
Brands using non-chill filtered as a marketing pull does NOT mean they think it makes a difference lol. It just means they know you think it does
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