Will Dodge's Electric Muscle Car Satisfy Its Die-Hard Fans?

Over the past decade, Dodge has dug deep into its performance car heritage and become a brand known for brash American muscle cars with supercharged V-8 engines and ridiculous amounts of horsepower. But tightening regulations, rising fuel prices and the rise of the SUV are putting the squeeze on Dodge's so-called “brotherhood of muscle.” It recently debuted the Charger Daytona SRT EV, an electric car that looks a lot like its popular supercharged Challenger or Charger. The only question remains: Will Dodge fans or EV buyers want it?
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Will Dodge's Electric Muscle Car Satisfy Its Die-Hard Fans?

[@ashtonr6751]

dodge and other manufacturers are gonna find out real fast that the problem isn't that they're Gass guzzling or even emissions conscious customers. it's that they sell a new car for 70k plus and wonder why their sales are going down.

[@TheNewChevyRoll48]

Not to mention dealer markups

[@Bdamazyn]

@@TheNewChevyRoll48 🎯Indeed, and it seems to be the norm. How aggravating.

[@Demonsbane666]

The whales are the ones supporting the markets and not the worker. Expect to be priced out of your freedoms. We are already seeing it being done with travel through these vehicle policies. Keeping you locked down through inability while providing the illusion of freedom and ability.

[@BigWheel.]

Less people should own cars

[@AKARazorback]

Wrong. People want freedom and speed (power) at a good price... if Dodge can deliver an Electric vehicle that's USER OWNED. Or ACTUALLY FULLY OWNED and not secretly owned and controlled at a distance by the company, Dodge will do really well.

[@toby319]

And yet the Mustang still has a 5.0 and a manual gearbox

[@MOPAR_scatpack]

Facts.

[@robertstone9988]

New 7.3 Turbo coming

[@DWH300]

Ford also is currently selling three EVs to balance their lineup. The Mustang Mach E, F150 Lightning and the Transit EV. This obviously helps Ford obtain the required fleet mpg and carbon emissions standards. Stellantis currently offers zero EVs in the US. Only high horsepower, low mpg and I'm guessing higher carbon emission Hemi V8 vehicles. I own one of those Hemi vehicles. I purchased new a 2018 Chrysler 300C Hemi. It's a solid luxury/Performance sedan while my favorite brand Ford was no longer offers sedans in the US dropping their two larger performance sedans, the Taurus SHO and Fusion Sport. When driven hard my 300C is thirsty, but unlike the Dodge RT Charger. I found the 300C more luxurious with it's Napa leather interior, other creature comforts and technology along with it's unique styling. The prototype EV Charger misses what an Ice performance car offers which includes the feel and sound of the V8 engine. Seeing the introduction of the new Ford S650 V8 Mustang created my interest in owning an S650 GT or Dark Horse model. Personally, considering Stellantis appears to be going 100% EV. I feel Stellantis needs to sell off the Dodge division and rebuild the Chrysler brand as their EV division in the US.

[@aaron-damonkassner4715]

Yep! The dark horse is gonna keep the manual transmission than Dodge.

[@Xenon-4300]

That's so true. It's not like Dodge was absolutely forced to make this change right now, so why did they?

[@saul_goodman3932]

The exhaust of the EV challenger sounds like a vacuum 😂

[@luigi4204]

exactly! Just give us a v8 supercharged :)

[@carlinshowalter1806]

that has a dead mouse stuck in the hose!

[@erehwon9371]

Waste of money, they can’t afford to spend.

[@kenna.9368]

Yeap combined with a wildcat!

[@Freddo.00]

Let’s Call it the hellvaccum

[@kengrand5445]

These car companies think that speed is all that "car guys" want when in fact it's not...part of the joy of owning a car with an engine is popping the hood & admiring that beautiful v8 or whatever you have with your buddies..my dad & I never had the best relationship, but I remember or best moment were when he would let me help him fix his old Datsun...there is something special & a certain level of appreciation that car guys have for things that are mechanical...something that an electric car just can't give....R.I.P to my dad by the way 😔

[@jaaklucas1329]

Disagree.What gets me excited in a machine is its performance. The rest is nostalgia...

[@ACECAPS]

The fact that it's a V8 gas guzzler is what makes it a Muscle car to begin with, loud and proud V8.

[@fredericcolombier5380]

Biden like Macron in my country don't want that , they want overpriced Ev cars to make to put us on our feet , without our precious cars , one of the last symbol of Liberty , they don't want our liberty , they want to deprivate us from that . And if they succeed, then they will attack our religious beliefs and finally our countries to create only one. They are Satanist or something like that .

[@chaitanyapahl]

Indeed

[@Nomavvv]

not very muscular when a grandma in her model 3 is lapping your hemi on her way to the grocery store bud.

[@spinyslasher6586]

Agreed. If they want to comply to emission laws, just ditch the muscle car name and embrace EVs fully.

[@TheCrain]

@@chaitanyapahl NASCAR uses V8 engines. How much faster you want to go there bud? lol

[@phil4986]

I remember ten years ago ,I watched a new Dodge Challenger turn around and go after a Mustang that had just turned around at the same u-turn location.. Probably two friends that were having a very good day. The sound that Dodge V8 engine made when he stomped the gas pedal to the ground I will never forget. That huge Dodge V8 made the most beautiful deep bass growl,I had heard in many years. And chirped the tires after every gear change. No onboard speaker can ever reproduce that. That was REAL. Electric cars may be faster but they will never be cooler. Hey Dodge, Thanks.

[@jonjeskie5234]

That's very subjective. I personally see the advantages of both. To me it's like asking if "you want a right leg or a left leg?"

[@liamgross7217]

I think the v8 sound is huge, you can enjoy your car going fast or slow.

[@njhbgy98]

that's why everyone's comments are called an "Opinion" because they're not "Facts"

[@sunsetlights100]

Looks like soon onboard speakers or air ducting will be only sound option soon.

[@mrsoisauce9017]

Why do people keep seeming to think that EVs making noises always means speakers? That chambered exhaust in the back of the car? It’s an acoustic chamber. It amplifies the sounds the car already makes and probably also tunes the frequency to produce a deeper, bassier rumble than the vacuum cleaner that is most EVs

[@johnranger6177]

Henry ford said it best "If you ask the people what they want, they'll tell you they want faster horses"

[@United_Wings]

With an engine

[@massimobernardo-]

Did Hitler reward him for this?

[@ibroughtaturbo-chargerfrom667]

@@massimobernardo- 💀wat?

[@rehsa2194]

Then they voted with their wallets and bought cars. Nobody is buying EVs untill they're forced on us.

[@TmanjoeR]

The best part about this is Ford is the only American company not killing off the V8 muscle car 😉

[@2FlyEli]

Salutes to all the other mopar fans watching this. I’m 25 and knew that I wanted a muscle car since I was 8 years old, at first it was a shelby mustang gt 500 and then when the challengers came back I just fell in love. Currently sitting in my 2020 RT Challenger 50 on a lunch break. Had a beer, life is great. 🤙

[@User_92020]

Why RT? Why not SRT? What do mean 50? Is that your age? This is for someone in thier 20's.

[@voltic7133]

@@User_92020 He said he was 25 in the first sentence. Also, an RT is a nice challenger and would smoke my 2017 SXT.

[@skulldude101]

He said, that the RT Challenger would smoke a 2017 SXT Charger. If anything, you aren't reading the comment right, original poster said he's 25, nowhere he said he was 50. Get some glasses, and maybe chill out.@@User_92020

[@PriceeeLIVE]

@@User_92020 he is saying that the RT from the original comment is still a very nice car even if it is not an SRT. He was also stating that being the RT it would smoke his SXT.

[@Mike-dd8bd]

I am a pretty big fan of the V8 engine. What people don`t understand (who don`t own them) is that its not 100% about power or performance. Anything can have lots of power and or performance. Its the combination of sound, vibrations AND power. Right when I start up my V8 powered car I am already having fun, just at idle. I have to give dodge credit here for understanding this and at least trying. Everything wants to hate on dodge but this is the world we live in now. If I HAD to buy a electric car I would buy this over a Tesla.

[@pooppoop3851]

I would buy a tesla just to sleep while gapping every muscle EV on the road or just play some cod

[@imannpc2562]

I love the way dodge is trying to take it and keep some emotion alive in a EMOTIONLESS electric car market. I have hope and I'll probably hold onto my dodge until they make a nice EV. Dodge is going to make the kind of cars we saw in cyberpunk and Im here for it!

[@neilreid2298]

@@pooppoop3851 And...not a single muscle car guy- ever- would care. EV's are glorified golf carts. Soul factor = zero.

[@avinashtyagi2]

Couldn't they mimic that with speakers and other devices built in?

[@mustafamufasa]

Fully agreed. I’ve driven a fair few electric vehicles and while they are fast and somewhat fun initially, they simply feel like appliances at the end of the day. That’s what people what, but as a car enthusiasts, it leaves allot to be desired. It seems there aren’t any EV sports cars on the market (at a “reasonable” price at least) and rightly so. How do you make an EV that exhibits all of the qualities that people look for in a sports car? Especially when the vast majority of people demand an appliance. I think this is a damn good attempt at an electric sports cars and if I had to buy an EV, this is the only one that stands out. -- At least Dodge is making a car for sports car fans to get excited about. The rush towards efficient, all electric cars has left a large gap in the market. Apart from some ICE sports cars, there’s hardly anything to get excited about nowadays. It’s quite sad. (I’m personally really excited for the new Z. Just wanted to throw that out there. I’m a JDM fan but I appreciate all sports cars)

[@michaelhasse2568]

U can't replace a vintage muscle car, you drive with a smile on your face. Nostalgic

[@tjmmcd1]

Vintage muscle cars have terrible suspensions and brakes and are horrible to drive. The MAIN or most likely, ONLY reason why people buy them is simply for the, "Stop what you're doing and LOOK AT ME" effect. This is why people spend massive amounts of money on old classic cars. It's all about the amount of attention they can gain from other people.

[@65stang98]

@@tjmmcd1 or they just like cars....... most people that want an "attention factor" arent going for old classics. They want the new cars. Plus people like that usually dont know a lick abt cars and dont have the skills to drive it nor the car knowledge to maintain it. People that buy muscle cars usually do it bc their dad or someone else got them into them thru drag racing etc. its a lifestyle not a "attention factor"

[@yamahaguy1732]

@@tjmmcd1 you clearly aren’t a car person. Classics are very enjoyable to drive. Not to mention they don’t have to be driven fast to be fun.

[@jlo13800]

@@tjmmcd1 At least they dont have all the computer crap either

[@Sucker4Suede]

Have you ever built one with your father ? The one I built with mine is in Australia now. 1965 289 gt. Ragoon red. Trumpet tips every thing on the car period correct except for the wooden steering wheel. I had the best time. You obviously haven’t ever driven one or anything. Doing my first burnout with he 4:11 gear ratio and it going 80ft smoking. At 17 years old. Got my motorcycle l’s at 16. You’re obviously a little communist Biden liberal. You’re not open minded at all. It’s what you think or nothing huh? Eat your grilled cheese vegan sandwich and shut up.

[@Space_Tour1]

As Charger owner. I don't know how I will relate to that , produce electric but at least keep the options open for gas engines

[@jesselee4405]

Totally resasonable

[@vx8952]

The issue is they are not making electric because they want to, they have too....

[@SharkWithFreakinLaserBeam]

You're old hahaha

[@cthomas3652]

think outside the box and watch Dodge dominate American muscle in new American technology.

[@joshuamejia9642]

@@vx8952 yeah the planet is dying but also it’s so they can control you if you do not cooperate they can just shut down your car at any moment

[@claudiomaiasantos]

I would never pay extra for fake noise or shifting fake gears, However, I can see the appeal. Seems to me that dodge will be a really small niche brand, EVEN after the transition to EVs. But I'll be cheering for them to make it.

[@Windows98R]

their muscle portion will be, the rest of dodge will still be the all-over the place fleet/affordable car brand. kinda sad though, since when most people think of dodge, you either think the Challenger/Charger or the Viper

[@claudiomaiasantos]

@WS47 I agree. This will be so niche that it doesn’t matter if it will be less efficient or way more expensive. It’s just like buying a Ferrari or a Lamborghini.

[@temelerdinch528]

I agree EV is not for me

[@marcusjohanson1064]

They'll do as good as budlight transition.

[@shiekhwaleedmiral-protein2819]

Then dont call yourself a man

[@travissmith1221]

“Will this electric muscle car satisfy die-hard enthusiasts?” No.. no it will not

[@alecleibel3769]

Simple enough

[@jlo13800]

How about a 572 CID v8 DFI 2 stroke crate motor anyone! i like the rumble of my v8 2 stroke.

[@robertbrody4032]

Yes, it will. Because we want POWER & SPEED. EV's have been part of automotive engineering for well over 100 years and real enthusiasts don't ignore that type of legacy. I owned a 2016 Charger Hellcat. Great fun car, but the EV version will eat it for breakfast. Dodge isn't into making slow cars. Drive a Model Y performance or Tesla Plaid and understand that INSTANT MONSTER TORQUE ends all debate. My Hellcat was the car with no soul after I did 0-60 in 2.2 seconds. All of the noise and smoke of my old Hellcat ends up being embarrassing against superior electric muscle. Trump nuts think this is a political fight (in their little minds), but I guess they just want to go VROOOOM and be slow.

[@stang178]

Not even close !

[@stang178]

Well there's no such thing as an electric muscle car a muscle car has a gas powered engine and can be obnoxious loud and growly and wakes the neighbors up at times ! 😎

[@sam.fridayyy]

To the non-gearhead ordinary person, EVs are just another vehicle to them. They move on. To the gearheads out there, its like watching a part of you die off and never be seen again. Each car is like a living, breathing part of you. It's hard to just stop caring about something you’re so passionate about. I like hearing the loud exhaust on my car or installing that cool new part that just came in the mail. I even enjoy doing mundane, ordinary oil changes because I get to spend time doing what I love. EV’s don’t give you that.

[@OhGawdHesGotAGun]

Maybe, but the gearhead thing's always been about edging out more power/torque/speed. Electric is different & I love the sound of a gas engine. Love the sound of newer Mustangs & a Pagani is the sweetest sound a vehicle can make. Thing is, as much as I hate Elon the man, he's put so much HP and torque into such sedate looking, ugly cars, there's no denying the future is EV & we're on the verge of great things. In an ocean of cars with < 200hp for domesticated dorks for basic transpo, EV's have finally given us our power back. I love cars, love driving. Spinning the back wheels & making noise is insecure peackocking. Doing 0-150 in a Tesla Plaid is another experience altogether. To each their own, but gearheads must've known the industry was long due for a huge revolution. Tap a button on an EV & you can spin the back wheels all day with more torque/hp/speed than almost any muscle car. If it's the pageantry & noise you're after, maybe the old guard is where it stays. My friend put 480hp through a Mitsubishi Evo & it was so damned fun but obnoxiously loud. My brother has that much hp in his Tesla Y Performance. The Mitsubishi can go away now.

[@TheLegitAlpha]

I know quartz watches have a similar rap.

[@casual35]

Makes not sense to me... For decades, people have owned these muscle cars and only a few of these owners used them to their potential. It's all for show... and noise.

[@emmanuelwil-jeff]

@@OhGawdHesGotAGun, not a gearhead myself in the way of having a solid understanding of the inner workings of a car, but I can appreciate a car like a Camaro mustang, hellcat charger etc. I think there's something irreplaceable abt peeling down a road at 100 hrs, and I found it personally interesting that as a millennial, my fellow millennials are EV-crazy BCS. Personally, I'm not at all, even with Tesla's being popular as they are, but in the grand scheme,e I much prefer a gas car, and it's less abt the sound but the connection,n as was said,d being I hope to own my own muscle Hemi car one day and what isn't be said abt EV I think is there very much a Work In Progress being there all new with not much backing them barring ig it's electric and can go fast, but ultimately EV's don't have the history and backing of 30yrs plus gas car going back to the 20's Fords Model T to now hellcat like I'm hard pressed to just ignore something like that as well, of course, the money EV's don't look as though they'll ever come down in price, but it's still affordable to get a gas car basically

[@klocke5247]

To the gearhead, EVs can offer the true sports car experience. Acceleration, and handling due to the low center of gravity. Noise contributes nothing to either.

[@williamrose7184]

Well I will answer that for you. And the answer is no. As soon as Dodge said they were getting rid of the HEMI I can no longer afford to even buy a decent scat pack. 51,000 for a base model scat is a joke

[@Boricuarackz]

@Collen Flarity They are both jokes for that price lmao

[@Lucas-gu7sj]

@Collen Flarity RT is slow and an absolute joke at 40k, i got a every option 5.0 S550 for 25k

[@anthonyv1971]

@@Lucas-gu7sj if it wasn't for the RT these cars wouldn't be a thing, think about it

[@Mr392Scat]

@@anthonyv1971 actually if it wasn't for the V6s the V8s wouldn't be a thing.

[@elijahjohnston3172]

Turbo civic built for less than 10gs gaps almost anything

[@Cj-xl3jv]

Lmaooo the “rawrrrr XD” the electric one made is hilarious

[@berni303]

Dodge: there is no way to produce V8s anymore Ford: releases Mustang 2024, Dark Horse, a number of track cars based on it Me: ???

[@seanthornton6844]

Thank the Mustang Mach E

[@berni303]

@@seanthornton6844 if they’re releasing EV charger to return HEMI later, I’m down

[@psd.3144]

very little of what ford sells has a v8 (even the trucks, which is where they make most of their money), whereas no one even looks at dodge without a v8 unless its for rentals or something. these companies decisions arent really comparable to each other.

[@RSTBKT]

@@psd.3144 ford did double down on their new Super Dutys, dropping the 6.2 for a base 6.8, keeping the 7.3 and keeping the 6.7 powerstroke, and making a high output version of the powerstroke.

[@Remix2366]

The challengers are falling behind mustangs and camaros

[@lanardfletcher1422]

As a die-hard muscle car enthusiast since I was 6 or 7 years old, I gotta say I wouldn't touch an EV "muscle car" with a 10ft pole. Muscle cars are about emotional connection. The sound, the rumble under your seat, working on it and upgrading it. EVs are for another kind of person.

[@aayushpatel8304]

Fact: Gasoline is renewable and can be produced with current technology.

[@ariesmight6978]

Lanard Fletcher how would it feel. Knowing that the electric motor. Under seat can produce between one thousand. And two thousand foot pounds of torque. In less the one rpm, Maintain full torque all the up to. Maximum motor rpm, while producing seven hundred hp or more. That e'll getcha holding on to the steering wheel. Perty hard.

[@Vex22778]

@@ariesmight6978 the rumble of the V8 and the sound

[@billybarker1413]

Couldn't have said it better myself buddy! 👍

[@mobmeegoh]

@@ariesmight6978 loud engine > torque

[@Isa1ahL33]

"To get consumers involved and excited, really need to connect with that emotional level." Stephanie spoke the truth right there.

[@mikeicee]

The current Dodge Charger/Challenger have old high quality Mercedes chassis and V8s... the new one will be cheap and have EV...

[@BoomBustProfits]

Electric cars are FAR worse for the environment (and the economy), and it is not just the mining of the precious metals needed to produce the electronics needed…Electric cars are far heavier, wear out faster, go through tires faster, need toxic batteries that are very expensive and do not last long, and are prone to burst into flames…etc etc And I won’t even discuss electric grid issues… Electric cars and the companies that are subsidized by taxpayers to exist are PURE Malinvestment…

[@stephenlewis1113]

I don't see it.

[@jasonbenso]

You know just how to do it, on that gunshot

[@cgamiga]

Many EV owners connect to their cars on an emotional level too. Mine is simply a joy to drive, literally. It feels more like flying a Learjet with afterburners, or a spaceship, than driving a car... but, one with retro-rockets, when I want to slow down (w/ regen braking.) The smooth, instant torque and acceleration NEVER gets old.. either launching from a start, or simply goosing it to pass someone. Yet the smooth fine control over acceleration and braking, lets me drive as gently and smoothly as I want... or think. It's so sensitive, it feels like driving by subconscious thought control...and extension of my subconscious. People have to try them- it's like nothing else. It's different, yes, without the engine note and rumble.. but, it's not bad.

[@RahulRahul-mn2jr]

The first time I heard that Dodge would discontinue their V8-powered muscle cars at the end of 2023, My heart was broken, and I was feeling so heavy. Still, I can't accept a new EV charger and charger. I search for and see videos about Dodge muscle cars every single day because I still love Dodge that much. But now, when I see new Dodge videos, they say Dodge muscle cars are no longer available. At that point, I couldn't control my tears. I loved Dodge more than anyone. Dodge was my whole life. Now I can't even stay without Dodge. Please, can anyone give me a solution? ,If I can't getaway maybe suicide is my last option. Because love my Dodge,that's all.😶

[@tobymofield6597]

Get ready for a extra tear. Once these EV muscle cars DONT sell, You can watch in s snail's pace Dodge will be going out of business. I'll be back later to tell ya i told ya so. If you wanna go NEW on Muscle, Start thinking about the 2024 Chevelle.....It's gonna be here early summer 2024.

[@CasperChicago]

The calvary is on it's way! I honestly believe EV Muscle Cars will be available within the next two or three years. I am a Tesla owner and I am a great admirer of the 8-cylinder muscle cars. GM, Ford and Stellantis will be making muscle cars; if they can manage to stay in business??? For now, BYD and Tesla are eating their lunch 👈🏾

[@gatorscoops3861]

man it breaks my heart to see such a good company having to deal with an identity crisis

[@nelsonc6173]

LOL sarcasm noted!

[@amj76425]

The Gospel is 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 👇 kzbin.info/www/bejne/opPFZautjs9kb8k Dispensational Truth, Or God's Plan and Purpose in the Ages Book from Clarence Larkin

[@ec6052]

...Every few years like they have been? lol

[@BaDArxz]

I blame the dickheads at Stellantis for this

[@markholroyde9412]

@@ec6052 Fastest baddest car ever, the Demon...and its an Euro Co, not even US, irony.

[@miamigt4922]

I own 2 Porsches and can say that Dodge fans aren’t the only ones dealing with the EV disappointment, Porsche has announced that the Cayman/Boxster series will also go all electric in 2025. We see the writing on the wall, not much we can do about it. I’ll be keeping my Cayman S and GT4 as long as I can drive them.

[@honiballist]

I just shed a tear. I’m been dreaming of a 911 but now that I can almost afford to maintain one, they are heading in a new direction 😢

[@Irish176]

Buy a car now and take good care of it

[@jlo13800]

I dont like these american muscle cars because they wont offer there 2 strokes. There was a 440 CID 2 stroke proto type. A 2 stroke DFI v8 would be awsome.

[@josephd8814]

It's not going to happen Miami GT 4. So keep your cars! Don't know because of your code name but in the state of Florida with this past hurricane 2022 yes this year, there was a guy who had an EV and his house and garage was flooded. The Fireman were at his house and told him to get that car out of his garage. They took the car out and he tried to start it and the whole vehicle burnt up smoked. The car was rendered totally useless!

[@gurneyforpresident2836]

@@JohnSmith-uy2jg Sure, that's a given, but we just don't care. NO EVS.

[@danw6014]

I love old school muscle. You can do anything with them. They bragged about the Hellcat hitting 9 seconds in the quarter mile but I seen an A body Cuda with the 318 pulling 9s and its totally street drivable and for a hell of a lot less money. There is some rejection in the farm equipment industry of new equipment with all the electronics and no way of repairs without a dealer technician, the emissions systems, and the cost of purchasing new. Good tractors built from the 1970s through the 2000s are hitting record prices. Auto steer and GPS can be added to them but you can rebuild them from the bottom up with a set of standard wrenches and then put another 10,000 hours, and then another 10,000 after that.

[@theincrediblehulk5797]

Yes old school muscle rocks man

[@elmerjfapp5730]

the electric car industry is entirely a scam and the people behind the idea of having the public in mass buy these new products they hope all the negative press associated doesn't show its face. the military defense contractor OSHKOSH is having a meltdown over a potential lawsuit and inability to produce heavy weighted all electric military vehicles they over promised and under delivered is what the current status is. the most they can get out of electric is bull dozers and fire trucks then lightweight vehicles under 5000lbs. either its gotta be massive or tiny to get results when it comes to energy requirements. they probably would have done better converting fuel consumed to a more viable burning product like a refined and cleaner racing fuel without ethanol additives

[@marlenathornsbeary2800]

@@theincrediblehulk5797 hell yea 🙌❤️

[@tomm1109]

No way a 318 powered anything ran a 9 sec quarter mile.

[@danw6014]

@@tomm1109 can if it's built to do it.

[@TeganCantEven]

I’m glad EVs are an option and that they’re popular. But I love my WRX and its turbocharged boxer engine, and honestly I would prefer to drive one forever.

[@fappydabear1774]

I daily an sti and couldnt agree more.

[@boben8]

Got a 02 Bugeye WRX and just love it so much. It’s high in the kms tho so i’m probably gana have to sell it soon 🥲

[@ulisesr614]

@@fappydabear1774I also have an STI

[@bustedknuckle0332]

It will be a miracle if dodge survives this!

[@stealthinator00]

I guess not. it not going to go very well for dodge. EV sports car just feels so wrong. is like a summer holiday without the sun.

[@nicerides9224]

I think they'll go ok. You have to keep in mind that the rules apply to all manufacturers and they have a great looking car. It's not the same without the sounds and vibrations of a petrol car but the power is there.

[@MyZ001]

People aren't going to stop buying sports cars just because they're EV. Remember that most cars will be EV in abo

[@robertbrody4032]

People who want fast powerful cars will line up for the fastest and most powerful car. I had a Hellcat, but it wasn't close to what I felt in a Tesla Plaid. I want POWER, not politics. My Hellcat made a ton of noise and smoke. A child's toy that GOT SMOKED the first time a Model 3 Performance came along side. Now I own an EV and can't wait to see what electric muscle cars are all about! I also don't want to help Exxon drown the planet in C02 and rob peoples pockets.

[@nicerides9224]

@@robertbrody4032 Rimac did a really good job with their electric supercar. They have deals going with major manufacturers so some decent tech will filter down. Some of the electric bikes are showing real promise too. Even Harley has got into the act with their Livewire which did a good job with. Your Plaid will be a collector's item one day as an early example of what EV's could do.

[@GeliCarlosJ]

Muscle car enthusiasts & diehards are like the exact opposite of people who buy EVs let alone EV versions of a muscle car. They can make it sure but it will be for a different type of person now and how good that switch will be will be determined in the sales

[@chop5806]

Most of the mopar community are culture vulture hype-beast who came from Impalas & Buicks! Dodge made the avg joe think he was car guy by making them affordable!

[@pi55bier]

You honestly have the best response to all of this. Yeah, you can make fast electric cars that look awesome. But the sound, experience an electric car cannot duplicate that. Plus, an electric theoretical charger is gonna cost a hell of a lot more than a gas one

[@lifeofmike556]

I politely disagree my friend. Yes the Dodge Challenger has always been a V8 muscle car but we live in a time where we need to move on from gasoline powered cars and push twords the future. Sadly it's these stubborn mindsets of unfamiliarity that keep society behind. Seatbelts, Airbags, Automatic Start, Gear Shift Dial, Rotary Engine, Hybrids, 4 Cylinder Engines... List goes on. These were all things that people hated at one point. Enthusiasts will absolutely buy this car! Im an enthusiast and im very excited for this. I actually think the sound is super cool like something out of transformers. That sound will carry the identity of the old muscle cars we once knew into the new one. It's the next generation of automobiles and there's nothing we can do. Im proud to say I got what I believe is the best performance bargain for daily driving and that's a Hyundai Kona N Performance before everything goes electric.

[@bftjoe]

How many gas fumes have you huffed? Must have lowered your IQ, which is a scientifically proven side effect of ICE.

[@robertagren9360]

Ever seen a jet fighter running on electricity

[@ashishvhatkar4922]

The half of muscle car is in the sound. Electric muscle concept itself is hilarious.

[@blairturner139]

They can still make it sound like one tho there was this car that had a setting to make it sound like other cars so it won't be that hard

[@scrub7720]

@@blairturner139 not the same, the new "sound" isnt very appealing to alot of enthusiasts and you cant really customize the car outside of body work which kills it for many

[@cthomas3652]

think outside the box for a while, watch dodge dominate American muscle in new American made technology

[@nathanfranck5822]

Its 2050. Dodge releases an OTA update to their muscle cars that mute the obnoxious sound. Muscle car enthusiasts have to find a new hobby that isnt being annoying in public

[@sharonbraselton3135]

Wrkng

[@EsteOeste-vw7ps]

If Im looking to buy a thick steak, why would I get Tofu instead lol.

[@michaelvenne9386]

They want to shut down the white male. Gender war actually.

[@kfk256]

Dodge should keep making the V8 car as long as they can as custom orders at a premium rate (including applicable taxes) for the ones that want it. That way the loyal can put their money where their loyalty is.

[@Xob_Driesestig]

if only there was a carbon tax, that way someone's hobby doesn't ruin the lives of everyone else.

[@kfk256]

@@Xob_Driesestig Absolutely. Premium rates are to include applicable taxes.

[@KRYMauL]

I think it would be a better idea if they used v6 hybrid

[@damongnojek3912]

Dream on. The ICE age is over. And loyalty? Dodge isn’t even American anymore.

[@jepleas9159]

@@Xob_Driesestig While not explained in the video, the threat of fines for not meeting fuel economy standards fines are forcing Dodge to change.

[@rickitysplitz7035]

As a Ford 5.0 V8 owner, no it won't. V8s aren't the fastest things in the world anymore stockwise, but the sounds and mods that can be done is something no EV or car with less than 8 cylinders can do.

[@joeking433]

They can give you an app with different car sounds while you wear headphones. ;)

[@gteco3018]

@@joeking433 That's just weird and fake tf.

[@jizzyjake6783]

I mean the current Charger can go 200+ mph haha not too much out there that can go faster for the price

[@joeking433]

@@jizzyjake6783 Can it beat a Tesla Plaid? ;)

[@jizzyjake6783]

@@joeking433 top speed yes. I think the Plaids are limited to like 170 so far and they are less expensive.

[@italianbasegard]

I’m surprised a major media producer such as CNBC doesn’t take the time to state what “Mopar” stands for.

[@skeletongang]

what does it stand for

[@Lucas-ht4cp]

@@skeletongang Chrysler Motor Parts Corp

[@skeletongang]

@@Lucas-ht4cp thanks

[@brandonware4375]

Google it

[@skeletongang]

@@brandonware4375 nah brother you're late

[@SunshineJ4478]

The "engine" noise could be air pumped through the battery compartment to help cool the battery and as the air makes its way through, it can make the muscle car noise. This could be a useful way to address the lack of noise problem and also make it useful.

[@doctoroctos]

So, a battery fart

[@Ghost-rr7xh]

@@doctoroctoshahaha

[@imperialmotoring3789]

Maybe put a baseball card in the spokes?

[@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis]

@@imperialmotoring3789I wonder if anyone has done that on an electric cycle.

[@BSGray10369]

Born in 51, I grew up LOVING new cars and trucks as a little boy in the deep south. They has a personality, made a statement (good, bad or indifferent); hell fire, we even gave em a name. Memories, both good and bad were made, BUT IT NEVER CROSSED MY MIND I WUD LIVE LONG ENUFF TO HORSEPOWER BE "PUT OUT TO PASTURE" AGAIN. Just happy I got to enjoy the FULL ride. With a tear in my eye Happy Trails to all

[@3legend552]

Love your comment so true 😁

[@bobgoble2228]

Born the same year and my first new car was a 1969 Coronet R/T. Today I drive a Ram and own two muscle cars, a 1970 Challenger R/T 440 6pack car and a 1969 GTX. I will gladly do without EV's and keep my truck and the old school muscle.

[@purplepants491]

For those saying why don’t people like evs because they’re better (quicker, less maintenance, better for environment, etc.), the people who like these kind of cars don’t really see cars as only a tool to take them from one place to another. There’s something beautiful about hearing and feeling the rumble of an engine while being able to change gears and make the engine come back to life all at the control of your fingertips. Think of these kinds of cars as Rolex’s or mechanical watches and evs as smart watches. The smart watch does everything you need better, however with the mechanical watch, there’s the beauty of little parts working together to operate the machine and that’s what gives cars a soul and that’s what makes combustion engine cars special. Edit: I’m not trying to bash evs or say anything against them I’m just trying to clarify why some people prefer gas cars even if evs are faster and better

[@XDM10]

Well, its not really better for the environment given how much goes into making the batteries and charging them on fossil fueled plants, not to mention the inefficiency to mileage and lack of infrastructure to charge all these EV cars. As far as maintenance, it isn't 0, and when those batteries get older they fade out and will likely total the car when that time comes due to cost. I'm not against them but the time is not now, a long way to go before a blue collar guy in rural-ish America could make it work day to day.

[@TwoShoedDude]

What “inefficiency to mileage”? What are you talking about? Even if you charge your car on coal-fired power and account for embedded energy costs of mining and manufacturing, the carbon payback period of purchasing an EV is a couple dozen months. Internal combustion is a ferociously inefficient process, ~40% under optimal conditions, and that’s after you mine and refine the crude oil and transport its derivative to your fuel tank - and before you burn off the resulting kinetic energy as brake heat. Meanwhile, batteries can be recycled into new batteries. There’s no comparison.

[@XDM10]

@@TwoShoedDude they are very inefficient especially when towing or under a load. They are also inefficient by charge time compared to filling up a tank. Also very strenuous on power grid currently with very little EV vehicles out there, states are periodically asking people not to charge their cars. It just makes 0 sense for me! Where I live it is semi rural area and I personally haven't seen a charging station within 60 miles of my house, not very efficient for me in any way, same goes for long road trips, you drive a couple hundred miles and charge for hours. Not to mention the materials needed to make these batteries are extremely hard to mine (likely not mined by an EV) and just cant see the sudden extreme push for going "green" ASAP with very little infrastructure, it makes no sense. I'm 100% for it but to act like they are 0 emission vehicles is just stupid, mainly everything on that car comes from fossil fuels including the electricity that powers it. Very good vehicle for someone in a city, but if you live in a semi rural area and tow (ev trucks burn through a charge with a LIGHT load) it's just not even close to being a viable option especially with the cost of them and cost of replacing batteries as they won't last or will lose power in time. One day! Till then V8s in my trucks and turbo 4s in my car!

[@purplepants491]

@@XDM10 Yeah I agree I feel like the push for evs is too early they need to fix all the infrastructure and stop using fossil fuels to produce electricity first before I’ll really consider it “clean”. Also battery tech needs to improve so people who tow or haul can see evs as a practical alternative to traditional gas or diesel trucks. I saw the towing test video with Tfl with the ford lightning it was really bad.

[@XDM10]

@@purplepants491 hoovie did one also. Was killing the charge incredibly with an empty trailer. Like 75% worse

[@matthijs3134]

Can't wait to see someone do an engine swap on that electric Dodge. I do see the need for electric cars, but for my road trips and weekends I'll probably always keep a gas powered car.

[@bwofficial1776]

LS swap Teslas are a thing. Plug-in hybrid is the best, EV for daily driving around town but no range anxiety and quick fill-ups on road trips.

[@markplott4820]

after 2024 GAS engine are ILLEGAL , even Dodge are KILLING the Hemi & Hellcat in 2023.

[@Ezero8]

Doing an engine swap on it will make it slower lol

[@TackKeyNack]

a PHEV should be a great solution.

[@capitanothegreat3994]

Like Rich' Rides who Put a V8 on a Tesla

[@codyfontaine1675]

Listen to that battery roar 😅

[@michaelvenne9386]

male castration

[@abrahamramirez7239]

As a 24 yr old owner of a 2016 Charger RT and a long time Mopar fan I can say no they can not please us by going electric 💔

[@dutchdna]

They don't intend to.

[@foam27]

eventually you won't have a choice.

[@Tysheeno]

@@foam27 This! The example of the 1900's was key. The world is going EV with or without you. Over time you will see gas cars less and less on the roads.

[@jesseobrien2641]

@@Tysheeno which is absolutely stupid when we should just be moving to synthetic fuel. You have to really slow upstairs if you think ev is good for the environment.

[@dustinmccourt548]

@@jesseobrien2641 Keep your horse and steam engine alive too!

[@premiervracademy5527]

The smell of gasoline, the vibration, the sound…these are the factors that make the most impressive features of an EV seem unimpressive.

[@ihavenoidea4727]

Just like a living being, a horse, was and is still loved by many. I'm sure the disappointment was unmeasurable to some when it became unviable. Point is, we have to move on.

[@premiervracademy5527]

@@ihavenoidea4727 I would not say move on, as you said people still enjoy horses. I like EV’s, but sound should not be the only simulated characteristic of the vehicle. Let’s bring in some vibrations to the seats, heighten the experience a bit. Then give me a switch so that I can make it sound like a true EV again lol.

[@monkeydui7241]

@ihavenoidea4727 not moving on with this garbage

[@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis]

Okay, I’m definitely going to the Illinois Railway Museum in the morning.

[@upyours6000]

Smell of gasoline...no thanks. That's just lung cancer.

[@skiresortowner5562]

Very fair documentary, thanks CNBC. Like a lot of people pointed out in the comments already, driving a muscle car isn't just about speed times. It's about connection to the vehicle through the engine noises, the shifts, the overall driving experience. Electric and even a lot of hybrid vehicles don't offer those qualities. While they're often quicker, they're also equivalent to driving a toy car. Hence why people love driving big, slow trucks and SUVs: experience > speed.

[@cgamiga]

I'm curious, besides the obvious appeal of engine noises & revving, what IS the appeal of shifting & rowing gears, for the driving experience? If it is low-gear engine braking in curves etc, then, an EV w/ good regen will fit that bill- it's amazing driving one down curvy mountain roads! Like having infinite-speed low gear, just instant control both ways w/ your right foot... pressure down, and it zooms forward... lift up, gently or hard, and the regen braking resistance kicks in instantly, as controlled as you want. Low center of gravity w/ the heavy batteries also makes for great road grip and little body roll, in those turns, you feel the G's but it is just on rails, stuck to the road. There is no lurching (or delay!) from shifting in acceleration... just one BIG head-snapping lurch when you stomp it! EVs GO. That launch grin, every time... makes up a lot for lack of engine roar :) Try driving a good one... it is NOT a toy car or golf cart. It's maybe not as "low-tech" physical/visceral connection, if you like to feel all the moving parts rumbling and moving etc as you accelerate... but you certainly feel the acceleration, both from launch and at speed.

[@cgamiga]

I guess replying to myself : there is a certain sense of technical master and accomplishment, from driving a muscle car well, that involves both sense and physicality- monitoring the RPMs both by tach and sound, properly timing shifts for smoothness w/ RPMs and accel/decel for fastest straights and in turns... it's more work, but, kind of satisfying & involving work when done well? EVs , admittedly, don't have that... but, instead of having to divert brain & senses & reflexes to that, you can.. purely focus on the driving. You don't have to worry about any of those, and just focus on your line, road ahead, accel/decel, and cars around you if on track etc... it's more focus on the act & experience of driving, rather than BEING a driver. If it is about wanting control back from the car, or not "cheating" like automatic vs manual transmission, well.. since there IS no transmission to control, well, there isn't a loss or cheat there. It does make it "simple", so "anyone" can do a perfect launch (just timing, not fast shifting), so something lost there.. but? If you do want more control back as a driver, since most EVs have advanced traction/stability & throttle control, check out videos of Tesla Performance trims on the track... they have Track Mode, which lets driver control & defeat most traction and stability features, and can adjust power front/rear as desired, and you can drift and burn out as much (mostly) as you want! It also has nice built-in G-meters and GPS track maps, and display of temps for battery/motors/brakes etc, so there is something to monitor and adjust on track etc. Main thing racers complain about is the brakes, not strong enough, and not perfect track handling, but... still amazing (and some 3rd party suspension mods to help.) Plus, the SAME car can be your beast on the track, but... ALSO your daily driver at the same time, as gentle and smooth as you want. Just , maybe, different tires :) and cheaper to burn all those electrons, too... incredible performance, but not a gas guzzler. Only if you stomp it all the time :)

[@Anti-FreedomD.P.R.ofSouthKorea]

@@cgamiga Because speed limits exist, and it's what you CAN do under that limit. Public roads are not Autobahns where you can go flat out 150mph every time. Whereas when you have a car which you can control the mechanics of that car within the speed and the car's own physical limits, you find more fun within these so customizable and tailored experience, rather than having to have solely speed as an excitment factor for what would be a muscle car "electrified" (and also additionally, maybe even fake engine noise). P.S Some may mention, then what about the handling? Well, in an electric car that will inevitably weigh over 2.2 tons with the battery, you either lose handling, or double the price tag of the car with absolutely crazy active suspension and chassis control like what you see in the Porsche Taycans and Audi RS'.

[@toxin7883]

I’d argue that most have not driven one and are speaking from a position of ignorance. I think the biggest thing that prevents people from connecting with EV’s is the looks. Most of us gas guys fell in love with a car on a poster, or a commercial or sitting in a neighbors garage not making a spec of noise. We were just drooling over sharp edges and slick curves.

[@frasertones8519]

@@cgamiga I don't disagree with all that you've said but I will add that the sense of refinement takes away from the sensation of speed. 100mph seems much faster in a 1962 VW Beetle than it does in a modern Porsche Taycan. Electric cars are the ultimate sense of refinement.

[@stevepotts6113]

I've owned the following MOPAR's: 66 Charger-318, 70 Plymouth Fury-383, 72 Chrysler Newport-400, 77 Charger-400. Currently own 73 Plymouth Satellite-318 and 99 Durango-360. I love them all, but will definitely buy this.

[@Trevorcraft71]

i hope that gas can become completely synthetic to save the heart of the v8s, to provide actual *options* for what people can drive. The force of change instead of looking at the other end of the issue is a painful, but known one. Maybe F1 can stir the pot sooner but im even scared of that id say. The 6.2 is honestly really important, it'd be so sad to just see it left hung out to dry

[@sharonbraselton3135]

3.1 liter by bred

[@rageagainstthemachine7434]

WELL THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT EL😈N MUSK AND ALL THE ELITE SATANISTS ARE DOING , ERADICATING FUEL AND BRINGING IN A. i....ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE🚫🚫👎👎👎👎👎 ROBOTS TO REPLACE HUMANS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎

[@stewart8127]

WTF do you think E 85 is?

[@redlight3932]

It comes from the ground no point g

[@marcusjohanson1064]

Stop falling for oil is fossil lie

[@hyperdukes7860]

What gets me aggrevated is I feel we're being forced into EVs.

[@kg0173]

Especially when you think that electricity comes from gas.

[@commentator2.0]

Uhh, we are lol

[@cosmicsniper6473]

Definitely forced into EV's. Only to continue the "global seasons are killing you" narrative, I believe is a meme with too much seriousness.

[@kg0173]

@@cosmicsniper6473 With that they will save couple flies.

[@jak3est]

Its all fake they are just offering a couple ev models while the world collapses to fool the sheep into voting in the laws that will bring about the collapse even faster. The Ford lightning cant even tow go lookat the KZbin reviews. We as consumers need to punish the auto industry hold onto your cars and just put off buying new for 5yrs. maybe they'll abandon the government to stay in business

[@joshtuck58]

So relieved to hear those millionaires will consider adding one to their collection. Well done.

[@nasaihyana]

Stop hating like little ho. We like what we like

[@formeitwastuesday.1515]

lol So true.

[@june19th85]

Ikr lol

[@robertsmith7637]

yup us peasants can grab a bicycle

[@joedirt2655]

Exactly what I was thinking 1 minute in video

[@blakeazimmerman]

I think the first few years will be hardest for them sales wise. Ford is still offering a v8 mustang with a manual transmission. They will have a hard time getting the Dodge and muscle car people on board. If they don’t discontinue the brand by then, I think they’ll be able to sell these in the future when everything else is electric. This will be the coolest option by far.

[@RSJerelle_]

It’s a shame that the s650 is slower than the s550 but cost way more 💀

[@tharushafernando4410]

@@RSJerelle_ Well, as technology improves it is going to be a lot cheaper.

[@tharushafernando4410]

@Blackout_CDXX Battery prices are getting lower compared to before. Technology is always improving.

[@gnrrailroad1531]

EVs will never be the future. Lol.

[@silverandgoldboxbreaks5457]

Yea I switched over to Ford this month because of that and picked up a S650. I had a challenger...

[@supralyfe1206]

I was all with him until he said they handle well. Dodge does have power and style but handling is does not have when speaking on the Charger and Challenger. Now the Viper, that's what we really want.

[@sharonbraselton3135]

Buy new viper v10

[@jerrybartlett1142]

Your gonna have to wake up Carroll shelby

[@jamariiion]

They slide good

[@jeffblahblah5226]

American muscle cars.........where all roads a re straight!

[@badjohnny6599]

being 13... it really hurts to see muscle cars and V8s disappear before I get my license. I have also never seen a dodge challenger or charger and stuff because I am in Australia 😑

[@eugenebrooks4035]

Dont worry these EVs wont take over . Our power grids will not allow it . Plus people like me that love I.C.E wont be buying into the E V Bull crap .

[@rickbailey189]

Cheer up there Johnny. it won't be long lad before you'll be behind the wheel of an automobile or truck. They will go faster too. You'll be buying a fast car when you get older IF that's what your heart really desires. 😀

[@MarvoloSalazar]

Both of those cars I've seen in WA just keep an eye out

[@billywashere6965]

@@rickbailey189 Yeah but he won't be able to go far without having to stop to charge them for several hours at a time.

[@sharonbraselton3135]

Hope. Newest viper ram rltruck v10. V10 surpasses v8.

[@felixmadison5736]

Take a tip from a 73 year-old muscle car guy: Keep the V-8 sound! When you drive fast, you want to SOUND fast! That's half the joy of driving a muscle car. There were thousands of people who didn't want to see the horseless carriage replace the horse, but they warmed up to it pretty quickly. LOL!!

[@wootuser]

LOVE tuning the cars, feeling the vibrations, the insane sounds and shake of the drive train as 1,000+ HP is ready to take off, then to see how far you push them to get a 8/9 Sec 1/4 mile. This electric thing is so fake, Like a supped up Battery Barbie car with fake sound maybe they can add a fake radio also. NON racers are pushing this and also people making money off EV - not Gear heads at any track.

[@Boostisablast]

I just bought a 2019 cts-v for this reason. There done making them and cars will be ruined soon!

[@Boostisablast]

@@ap_2077 good luck with fixing the electric cars yourself. Some of us enjoy turning our own wrench’s and not getting ripped off to maintain them.

[@JSB103]

*_"When you drive fast, you want to SOUND fast!"_* Well aren't we lucky!! Any sound can be electronically recreated!! Boy, don't you just LOVE progress!!

[@felixmadison5736]

@@JSB103 DAMNED STRAIGHT!

[@TrevorDaniel]

We'd probably like it more If the sound was like the irobot car sound.

[@juanbedolla7106]

As a 2016 Dodge Charger Owner whose interior door pannels and plastic trim warped within the first year. I was going to buy the 2022 Challenger with a manual transmission soley for that manual transmission. Now since you guys decided to go full electric. I will be happily buying the 2024 Mustang Darkhorse because of that manual 6 speed with that Coyote engine!🔥🔥😎

[@1BuckeyeRob]

lol my 2018 Charger did the same thing.

[@juanbedolla7106]

@@1BuckeyeRob Cheap interior Adhesive 😞 did you ever fix it or replaced the panels? I had to use gorilla glue 🤣🤣 at the end I just tinted my windows black lol

[@guitarboyjeff]

Not to mention the fake exhaust tips!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@JamesTurfKing]

You’ve made such a dent in their sales. Oh the humanity

[@asajayunknown6290]

@@JamesTurfKing I would opine that you are incorrect. The market for an electric expensive go-kart is limited.

[@marcelljackson2868]

It will be decades before you convince muscle car fans to accept it. I'm not hating but how you gonna convince decades of muscle cars fans to give up their love of classics.

[@joeking433]

They're not going to have a choice. When states ban the sale of ICE cars they will fade away into history.

[@mrsoisauce9017]

By making the EV exciting, bringing features to the EV that actually improve the experience and make it more like an internal combustion engine (like the REAL exhaust note, the e-Rupt electro-mechanical shifting system, and the boxy design). The Dodge Charger EV will most likely be the first EV to make EVs truly fun to drive and desirable for car enthusiasts

[@Ideo7Z]

@@mrsoisauce9017 Fake internal combustion exhaust sounds are not going to impress musclecar guys. Also EVs can't be modded and tinkered with with like a v8 because the aftermarket parts isn't there for it and won't be the way EV companies don't allow right to repair so no modding.

[@texaswunderkind]

People are resistant to change. If you interviewed hot rodders in the 1960's they were probably bent out of shape about unleaded fuel, fuel injectors, hydraulic lifters, aluminum blocks, disc brakes, automatic windows, air conditioning, automatic transmissions, tubeless tires, and seat belts. I think the attitude needs to change about these classic muscle cars. There will always be a place for them as works of art, but the daily driver is going to have to be much more efficient. Whether it is a small-displacement ICE with a lot of computer controls to squeeze every HP out of a drop of gas, or an EV. You don't see people riding horses or taking steam trains anymore. It's not that those things weren't charming, but something better came along to change the way we do things.

[@Mr392Scat]

@@Ideo7Z that sound isn't fake. Its not from speakers or file download. Its actually air being pass through just like ICE. And the plan is to have up to 9 different power levels all through Direct Connection. But we just need to wait and see the full product and experience it ourselves. In the meantime I'll be blasting my 300c SRT8 in the streets 😊

[@james1939-s1c]

This will bomb, not the first time they were out of touch with their customers. These cars are purchased because of the heritage and by people that grew up falling in love with V8s. I have one because I specifically wanted a V8, if I wanted a fast car that was more practical, I would have got a hot hatch (STI, Focus, SI, Etc) they are all over 300 horsepower at this point and very fast, but not a V8. There are options, but for most customers this is a car that sits in a garage and is only driven a few times a year, and want a V8, which nothing compares to the raw power and sound. My daily is a cruise that get 40 mpg.

[@Neutralmentality]

I want one so bad but its v8… so they got me as a customer now :D

[@tonyhuang431]

its not their fault, they signed a contract with the company their under, in 10 years they must be 100% electric or face deletion of comapany

[@jlo13800]

Where is the 2 stroke DFI v8 options, not all of like 4 stroke and some of us are die hard 2 stroke fans like my self.

[@iroc341]

Until you actually feel the power of an All wheel drive electric , the torque off the line through the 1/4 mile. It is Ludicrous ! And I'm just like the old guy in this video. Old school gear head. Never thought I would say this. That Charger is beautiful.

[@garys6898]

Dude they have no choice but to go electric, they will not fail

[@Hunter-o6g1p]

The fake Engine noise and shifting fake gears are hilarious WTF lol

[@MrKnutriis]

That engine sound sure was goofy - I hope someone will come up with a more creative solution. Hire in a Hollywood sound creator and give it a sound that'll drop your jaw and frighten you when you punch it - and reduce that to just announce the presence of the vehicle under normal driving. Nice design.

[@neilreid2298]

I will never drop serious coin on a car that sounds like a leaf blower. Stellantis has totally lost the plot.

[@squidwardo7074]

Think I'd rather it be silent lol

[@drewfeld836]

They should somehow amplify the sound in f electric engines. Maybe it would sound more turbine like?

[@kafilkavich707]

@@drewfeld836 How about they just stop making EV cars, their no better for our environment.

[@Maynardd]

I was wondering if it would sound different under load? all they were doing was rubbing it up. Plus the car needs a spoiler and those rims are downright hideous on it.

[@hotrodlegendsgarage5517]

The old cars will never die out they will always be here no matter what

[@Nickington2]

Yeah but then you can't drive them because emissions are getting stricter

[@MeatballMedic]

With 50 years of oil left, they won’t be around forever.

[@BlackPDigitalMedia]

@@MeatballMedic the era of mad max begins

[@MrSpy13011]

@@Nickington2 that and the fact the Chryslers don't last as long so you're probably better off letting it sit.

[@Nomavvv]

keep dreamin.

[@hickeyskustomresto]

Gas or electric, both are fun for a short time, but nothing new has the soul and feel of a nostalgic V8 beast with classic lines. The simplicity of build is a big part of that.

[@lorenzrosenthal119]

Simplicity of build? How is an Otto-motor simpler than an electric motor?

[@trexmidnite]

Likes riding old v8 turds...

[@rebeccadubois8270]

They sound cool. But given enough time it'll all fade away

[@larry762]

Nothing can replace the sound of throbbing V8!

[@vangezy6456]

@@lorenzrosenthal119 he meant the car design, not a functional builds.

[@coollectionFun]

From A challenger owner for 12 years, I’m liking it and dodge is still the best looking cars out there. Go for it! All the power to ya! 😄

[@ikGREENY]

Convincing a collector to buy it will be a whole lot easier than someone who’s looking for their only sporty / muscle car

[@ICU1337]

True. But when these are your only option for a sports car, then guess what will happen. You can either buy this or the new VW electric SUV. Either way you're going electric, its just a matter of how petty and spiteful you want to be lol 😂

[@donguess4332]

@@ICU1337 NO we are NOT going electric. There are millions upon millions of gas powered vehicles on the roadways of America and will continue to be for decades to come. Like it or not EV fanboy fossil fuels are here to stay. The vast majority of Americans will reject these glorified gold carts. Only a small minority that have to have the latest fad to virtue signal will buy this EV junk. I find it very entertaining and I can't stop laughing at you greeniacs. Also there is no climate crisis. That's just another fake political communist Democrat talking out his ass as usual.

[@ikGREENY]

@@ICU1337 ever heard of resale

[@ICU1337]

@@ikGREENY ever heard of moving the goalpost?

[@ICU1337]

@@surfncnow I'm sure you wrote this comment thinking it would like "strong and manly" and "witty" but honestly it just makes you look sad and insecure... I was going to write more but honestly, you're not worth it. FYI a democrat would be smart enough to avoid the 🐶💩🤷🏽‍♂

[@shwetankverma2013]

Been a life long admirer of the Chargers and Challengers. Due to all these and the production shutting down, I won't likely be able to own one for myself and that disappoints me more than anything in my life.

[@howtorawk]

The EV will be better

[@billywashere6965]

@@howtorawk Since you can't repair it, it won't.

[@THESLlCK]

@@howtorawk cringe alert

[@howtorawk]

@@billywashere6965 wdym you cant repair it? EV has less moving parts so it requires less maintenance in the first place

[@howtorawk]

@@THESLlCK ignorant alert

[@1Quamish]

I was traveling in Norway in "99 in a small town Named Gol. Walking down the street and a line of American muscle cars came cruising by in the middle of town. I thought I was in the twilight zone back in high school. I guess it was their hobby because you didn't see those cars driving around normally. Gas was 5 bucks a gallon back then in Norway. Probably at least 10 bucks a gallon now.

[@oddster1981]

im norwegian. and i have a v8 (67 firebird). we drive ev's daily and v8's in the weekends. 90% of new cars sold in Norway is ev's btw.

[@alexanderchenf1]

@@oddster1981 and how is the electrification working for you?

[@REXae86]

@@oddster1981 eew

[@oddster1981]

@@alexanderchenf1 excellent. More than 85% of new sold cars is ev's. 90% of the charging is done from home, and you wake up to full range everyday. And most people does not drive 400 km/day anyway. It even works out in the winter time.

[@simxn.06]

"They stop well. They handle well" Europe: Hold my beer

[@John-lt5zs]

The problem is the amount of time it takes to charge. You add hrs to a trip over its charge time.

[@Louie_Vision]

You either A not have an EV or B you have not done any research about them. This isn't 2010 anymore with the Nissan Leaf. Most new EVs charge super fast. O just charged my ioniq 5 from 18% to 80% in 25min

[@vx8952]

That is where fast charging comes in. They are making an Audi concept that charges full in about 5 minutes, with 800V charging.

[@John-lt5zs]

@@Louie_Vision 5min and I'm 100% with a distance of 450 miles.

[@Louie_Vision]

@@John-lt5zs Yea you can also pump for 5 min and only get 150 depending on the car. It varies buddy. 90% of gas cars can't even get over 300 per tank. Not to mention it also cost 3-4 more to pump over charge😂

[@blairturner139]

Well adding solar panels and there's that ability that one has where it recharges when wheels are spinning

[@DeadAir21]

For Stellantis to keep making HEMI’s it would be a huge premium. Like a 7 figure premium.

[@tylersanders2388]

That isn’t totally true. They can keep producing HEMIs as long as they have the electric model to satisfy regulation. The only way it would get that pricey would be if they did a ground up redesign. If they keep refreshing the same models they can keep it going for 5-10 years for the same price

[@DeadAir21]

@@tylersanders2388 then they wouldn’t be killing off the HEMI then. It’s all about how fuel efficient the entire company is. You gotta remember they use the HEMI in a lot of their vehicles and Stellantis as a whole is at the bottom and it was reported that they’ve paid over 700 million in fines and fees in just the first half of this year. That’s why they’re investing so much into electrification and that new hurricane inline 6. The hornet was developed solely to have a fuel efficient vehicle in their lineup.

[@raymondcanessa7208]

Hopefully they will continue to have crate engine hemi to retro fit the older cars

[@tylersanders2388]

@@DeadAir21 yeah I actually kind of like the electric challenger honestly. I’m not bashing it at all. I just also think as long as they electrify to satisfy the feds they should be able to hold on to the HEMI

[@joeking433]

@@tylersanders2388 There just won't be the market for polluter cars in the future. Even if every state doesn't ban their sale it just makes it unprofitable for car makers to make them.

[@-k5703]

Never Ever! Got SRT 392 Challenger which is a beast of a car and I will never replace it with an electric toaster on wheels

[@joelfine1177]

I originally bought my 22 scat pack to resale in a few years but it's not gonna happen. I love this car

[@sharonbraselton3135]

Working hydrgen veter

[@Mr.Frost181]

Somebody is going to put a hellcat engine in that new electric charger 😂😂😂

[@indigobluu]

"It's not supposed to look like a jelly bean" 😂 Exactly

[@nathansummerville3972]

Dodge enthusiasts are very disappointed. I know, I am one! I will be looking very hard at the new Dark Horse Mustang when it comes out. The scat pack might get sold or traded in at that point. Sad because Dodge was the only muscle car out there.

[@Remix2366]

No bro,ev haters were disappointed. EV's are just stronger muscles.

[@ghuff31]

@@Remix2366 Bro a microwave cooks faster than a grill, but no one ever asked for a microwaved burger.

[@BayouBarbie504]

@@ghuff31 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@fastentertainment2151]

🤣🤣🤣

[@warriorcp123]

@@ghuff31 Great analogy 👏🏿

[@sportsbank8428]

I will be 51yrs old soon. I am a computer programmer, and I restored muscle cars over the years. Weird combination... I work with A.I. etc... now. I don't want it in my muscle car though. There is a reason why muscle cars are popular with people in my age group. We want to tinker with them, modify them, make them our own. That basically goes right out the window with this new EV. Chrysler has been amazing at throwbacks to the time of muscle. They have been the best at it. The body on this new charger daytona is gorgeous. It really makes you think of a 68-70 charger. But, it isn't a muscle car. There is no replacement for displacement when we talk about muscle cars. A 426 Hemi is what people want... Not a 426v Hemi. When this car comes out, the fun thing for all of us old muscle car guys will be the KZbin videos. The videos of the guys with the money, that will make their own chassis, and put a real hemi in this and the batteries and motor will be on ebay. This dumb fake noise they make in this, I already said someone would do that 10 years ago lol. This car would be fun probably to drive, but the muscle car fun, would be non-existent.

[@jlo13800]

the 426 hemi can be converted to 2 stroke cycle!

[@billywashere6965]

Agreed on every point. And these EVs have no lifecycle on them either. You can't pick up an old EV from a junkyard with a decentish engine and repair the distributor, swap out the alternator or put new gaskets in, you can't do anything to EVs; if they die, they die.

[@bitcoinjedi2276]

Just makes the sound feature optional! It's a gimmick, but some might like it. Plus have an option for all drive mode with no need to change gears as well. Options for how the customer wants to tailor their car are best. I'm sure this will be a huge hit too. Doesn't look like typical EV's either which is nice!

[@marcusjohanson1064]

Gut it to run on gas

[@crankychris2]

They should mandate Tesla's FART sound, Elon says it's his most popular feature, imagine a 130 dbl fart every time the car exceeds the speed limit. LEO will love it!

[@Brandon-yq1tm]

"emission regulations" bringing the rise of crossovers is one of the most ironic and funny things to me. Out of all vehicles crossovers are one of the worst about mpg and are often underpowered, so it has to burn even more fuel to move it's bloated chassis around with 500 extra pounds from protection and nanny features.

[@jakehildebrand1824]

Exactly.

[@ashantedula5696]

Thus may have been true in 2001 but here in the year 2023. There's crossovers with 200hp getting 37mpg on the highway non hybrid . Nissan Roque. All of the crossovers are getting 30mpg highway actually. Maybe aside from the bronco sport

[@jakehildebrand1824]

@@ashantedula5696 meanwhile small coupes and sedans get better mileage with double the horsepower.

[@ashantedula5696]

@@jakehildebrand1824 examples please of a car with 400hp with this better gas mileage you speak of ...

[@jakehildebrand1824]

@@ashantedula5696 alright fair enough, I may have been exaggerating the gas mileage a bit there. However, this is the car community here, we don't care about things like miles per gallon, or eco-friendly garbage. We care about Horsepower, Torque, and how fast it can get you across the quarter mile.

[@6-Iron]

I'm not opposed to EVs in general. They could be a huge achievement in mobility if used in the right situations. I AM apposed to them (or anything else) being forced onto consumers for political reasons. You can't force an energy transition. It has to be done when the new technology is ready, affordable and beneficial to humanity -- not create a dystopian nightmare for humanity. EV technology is being inadvertently set up to fail. Fun fact: ICE cars have never been more efficient and clean. According the EPAs own data cars made today have 99% CLEANER emissions than cars made in 1970. So why are the being forced out of existence? People need to start asking why the electrification of everything is being pushed so hard for equivocal reasons. Interesting times ahead of us.

[@xechs88]

I love my scat pack. I daily drive it even in winter. I was just starting to become a mopar guy. I got an old Plymouth and this scat is my second modern v8 charger in the last 10 years. The thing that makes the dodge fun is the pull away. Love people who are rolling and you pull from them, especially when they don't believe you that it's stock. Tesla plaid is quick launch but kinda weak top half. If dodge wants me to be impressed with their EV they have to fix that top speed level off and do something fun in there. Also they have to have a lot of pull more then other EVs out there.

[@jlo13800]

Does your scat pack run oil injection? at what ratio?

[@ZLwh1ne]

The pull away 😂. Not from anything worth talking about

[@sharonbraselton3135]

Wribg evs beter faster

[@chungus_khan]

nothin' like chewin' up & spittin' out a 392 scat pack & leavin' 'em behind by football fields in a 4.4l NA DOHC 540iA Dinan Stage II with only 277ish WHP😁

[@jeep1987]

@@ZLwh1ne yeah you must be a Camaro owner or a mustang owner got your ass spanked too many times by a Mopar Now you salty 🤣

[@WW-wf8tu]

As an owner and enthusiast for American Muscle, I never want the V8 to die. Get it while you can. However, if your enthusiasm is about looks, garaging and collecting things and not being a driver, having an EV like the new Charger should suit you just fine. As it will look pretty and always be ready to drive. Storing ICE vehicles is a waste of a machine. IMO. If you love the V8 rumble, drive the damn things! Not making any rumble sitting in the damn hangers behind ropes. 😏

[@antoinelee-thomas9536]

Maybe a small portion and when I say small, I mean only 2-3% because 97-98% of Mopar fans take internal combustion engines and V8s seriously and the V6 that Dodge offers as this generation of Challengers and Chargers are coming to an end. The 6th gen Camaro and the Camaro nameplate as a whole is on the way out again and this time it looks to be for good. The only real sports car/muscle car you can say that is staying true to the internal combustion engine is Ford with the Mustang. Whether you love Ford, hate Ford, or dislike the Mustang, you cannot argue the fact that the next generation S650 Mustangs is wildly improved and sticking true to its heritage with 5.0L Coyote V8 in the GT model and its incoming new offering the Dark Horse, and it's rumored the S650 Shelby GT500 will be coming a whole lot earlier than the S550 gen Shelby GT500s and the S197 Shelby GT500s have in the past. Ford won the domestic sports car/pony car/muscle car wars as far as who would keep the internal combustion engine around and they succeeded. Unless Mopar fans are happy and content with what they have now as the last true engine powered car they'll be seeing and hearing and they want nothing else, then they're content.

[@DEIFAN]

They are making i6 engines, however they need to alteast keep one v8 to compete with ford,even if it's a 5.7

[@jizzyjake6783]

yeah too bad Ford is just slapping huge screens all over the dash. looks ugly as hell and lazy.

[@chrisaki3.055]

Bro wrote a whole essay

[@wyattnoise]

All those MOPAR fans are free to get smoked by clearly better technology lol

[@bwofficial1776]

@@wyattnoise Performance isn't just 0-60, it's about the whole sensory experience.

[@hpdefun6647]

"it brakes well, it turns well" 🤣😂🤣

[@neilhowes4215]

Going fast or having power isn't the key of a muscle car it's the fact that it's motor combustible and all its moving components in the motor makes a man love what a man loves in muscle cars! The sound, the smell and then the power!!!

[@joeking433]

Yeah, breathing in them toxic fumes!

[@Boricuarackz]

@@joeking433 I love them toxic fumes, rather die from that then a battery explosion from my Dodge EV 😂

[@AmericanRustWorker3369]

The only thing it will satisfy is us laughing at all the hilarious memes coming out about it 😂😂😂

[@egarcia1360]

Textbook example of Betteridge's law of headlines: "Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no." Maybe one day we'll all be forced to go electric, barring *extremely* niche custom-built and grandfathered-in units for the true dinosaurs out there. But in the meantime, given its legacy, Dodge-especially in terms of the Challenger and Charger brands-should naturally be among the last holdouts, not leaders in the switch to EVs. The Challenger has been my dream car for as long as I can remember; I hope I get to own a real one before it's too late...

[@josephd8814]

Don't worry Emanuel this shall pass! Ev's will not take over the Auto Industry! It's a Stupid Dream whipped up by the Left Wing Kook's who are against the oil industry! Maybe in 50 to 100 years they might be able to replace oil!

[@jakehildebrand1824]

Internal combustion isn't going anywhere. If they stop selling them, people will buy used cars, or if necessary build them. Gas and oil can be synthesized, Engines can be machined and built, and the EPA can take a hike. If they ever try to force everyone to stop driving REAL cars, it will end up being one of those "just try and stop me" kinds of things

[@JohnSmith-yl8sg]

@@jakehildebrand1824 - You're a really hopeful guy. Blind.

[@JohnSmith-yl8sg]

@@jakehildebrand1824 - I hope you're right.

[@Inferno45]

They should have just redesigned the challenger and charger but with a small v8 and hybrid powertrain. That way we get to keep the v8 and the government gets to shut up about emissions. Then if they really need to sell an Ev then they can just make a separate muscle car thats only electric while they continue to sell the hybrid ones.

[@joeking433]

Not a good business decision.

[@RSTBKT]

@@Niko-iv4ch part of the reason no one wants a GM EV is because of the chevy bolts catching fire and the media trashing them for it (even though the percentage is lower) also, imo at least, I think the GM EVs they do sell aren't that nice looking besides the Hummer

[@billhoman694]

Big brother needs to be set back in place. They are screwing things up fast. And this ev push is only a small part of it.

[@Inferno45]

@@billhoman694 Yeah unfortunately its all about politics not the actual environment.

[@bwofficial1776]

@@Inferno45 Have you seen pictures of lithium mines? That's far worse than an oil derrick.

[@ropro9817]

Lol, that fake electric engine growl is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I guess it's meant to fool these children. 🤣🤣🤣

[@pranavdekate734]

Definitely Man😂, EVs are the Dumbest and the Ugliest🤮

[@lynnmckenney1987]

They'll smile as they absolutely walk you on a highway pull with their "dumb" sounding car 😅😅😅

[@Fr00stee]

Its still going to be way faster than any ice

[@wkskdnam]

You got me boy!

[@GoodKarma11]

Right?! 🤮

[@trozio1]

3:38 anyone notice the Reflex Silver VW R32??

[@avanluetkemeyer9684]

No, it can’t, there’s nothing like the feeling of driving a powerful engine, especially turbocharged, one of the best feelings out there

[@robertnicholls9917]

Gas engines lose 80% of their energy. It's probably one of the most inefficient designs ever made. I don't know why enthusiasts can't be honest about that. But, like you, I like the engineering behind a good engine. That said, if the goal is solely performance, an electric motor with battery tech that is finally 10 times better than what it is now will run circles around anything a gas engine can do. I'm interested in seeing how Dodge can bring that tech into the religious ICE enthusiast's world.

[@lawnmower6591]

@@robertnicholls9917 With all due respect, again, it's not about the efficiency or the power, or whatever. It's about the *feeling* . I can't speak for other people, but I've driven my family friend's mach E, and I was just disappointed like "damn, this is the future?". You can't have an EV and call it your own. No mods, no engine swaps, no sounds, can't row through gears, no character in general. If I had the choice between an old 5 speed miata and a brand new Tesla or whatever, I'd choose the miata without a doubt. I wouldn't say all Enthusiast lie about it. A few of my friends openly agree to that, but the more they get into cars, the more they push away the EV future. It's not something any of us really look forward to. I believe some people that say that because they already had their fun with this generation of cars. Yeah, the mach E had instant torque, and was cool for a lil while, but it wears off quickly. When I first drove a manual car (RSX type S), I almost cried. I felt so alive. You can't replicate that feeling in an electric car, I'm sorry. You may be faster, but at least I'm having fun. I'm not too educated on the topic, and sorry if I have the incorrect information, but I believe synthetic fuel is being developed. Lamborghini and Porche are involved in the development process. I'm pretty sure that self driving cars are also becoming a thing with these, and that's something I DO NOT look forward to. Like it just makes people forget how to actually drive a car. Sorry if I sound rude. I'm tryna respectfully tell you that no, there really isn't that feeling BUT the real deal. If I have any incorrect information, please tell me.

[@bubbles1525_]

​@@robertnicholls9917 you think electric cars don't lose power?

[@bubbles1525_]

​@@robertnicholls9917 I don't know how electric is better, when you never have full performance once your below 75%

[@lawnmower6591]

@@anotherland2462 oh yeah >:)

[@Tjm416]

You know, I asked my uncle once how I'd know when it was time to stop. You know what he said? “The youngsters will tell ya.” We had some good times together. I'm gonna miss that the most, I think.

[@TheNewChevyRoll48]

Stellantis really took the best thing about those boats out of them. I'd rather they get rid of the V6 option and make the eV the base model. Sad thing is that TT straight 6 only gets one extra MPG compared to the Hemi.

[@jlo13800]

the inline 6 is a 2 stroke i heard.

[@sharonbraselton3135]

That's goid mog

[@jlo13800]

It's a DFI 2 stroke!

[@lunamaria1048]

Dodge is trying to maintain brand, heritage and customer loyalty, instead of simply selling their soul and trying to JUST cash in on the Tesla crowds, like soooo many others. I respect that

[@firstnamelastname956]

They sold out, what are you even talking about. Lmao. If they had real integrity, they wouldn’t have discontinued their most popular muscle cars. They literally cashed in on EV’s and made this BS

[@lunamaria1048]

@@firstnamelastname956 Manufacturers are following imposing government regulations. Not "selling out"

[@firstnamelastname956]

@@lunamaria1048 and which government regulations are these? I haven’t been in the loop. Also, like I said, if they had real integrity they would give government the finger and continue to do what they want

[@lunamaria1048]

@@firstnamelastname956 Government regulations to keep lowering emissions. Your feelings (or blissfully unaware ignorance) aside, that is the reality of our changing automotive industry. If they could keep using big V8s, they would. Even Toyota is struggling with these regulations, because their reputation depends on reliability of engines they are being forced to phase out, for hybridization and EVs.

[@firstnamelastname956]

@@lunamaria1048 the only one caught up on their “feelings” is you… you’re just projecting my guy. I was asking you to provide some explanation to your claims. All I was saying is that yes, it is selling out. No integrity anywhere anymore… everybody just gladly obeys daddy’s government and you sure sound like one of them fools lol

[@benbaggen2375]

I'll never understand adding the sound, for anyone who has been in one of these cars. They know it's not just about the sound, it's literally something you can feel in your soul I worked at 1 of the biggest Chrysler dealerships in my state, and checked in all the new inventory. It was a amazing experience, we didn't have a premium pump on the lot so I got to take them all to full them up. We only got in 1 demon in, I so excited about the trackhawk but we never did get I in.

[@206beastman]

I'm an auto tech at good year in VA. I've seen about five prius get crashed buy techs on the lot cause they thought the car was off. Steve Where's that white prius? I left it right there the why is it in the side of that building down there wtf

[@brianwilliams4562]

Sit inside the garage with the car turned on with the door closed for 30 mins and you'll really start to feel it in your soul

[@benbaggen2375]

@@brianwilliams4562 you snowflakes say the weirdest things. So sensitive

[@Kanenthemanokit]

Are we not going to mention the glory of the V10 viper

[@6pistons]

EV will never provide the driving engagement like a high performance sports car

[@wowomg1980]

Subjective

[@6pistons]

@@wowomg1980 yeeah.....like everything else

[@rickitysplitz7035]

@@wowomg1980 Speed is only one thing. Sound and modding is another.

[@getgaijoobed6219]

Make that motor sound like the supercharger on my cat and I’d consider it haha 😂

[@S.C1970]

Nothing will replace the feeling of driving a V8 no matter the brand. Replacing it is impossible.

[@foam27]

I hear you but go for a ride in the plaid

[@S.C1970]

@@foam27 oh I’ve been in a p100d. They’re nice and pretty quick but I’m still not sold. I love the purity of a combustion engine with respect to Tesla.

[@foam27]

@@S.C1970 Lol, a P100D is nothing compared to a plaid :O

[@bradshaeffer8122]

The V8 is special. The right amount of grunt, the right sound, the right feel. Add that to the Dodge style and it can’t be replaced. They can keep their EV. May have to bail on the Mopar lineup and look at those that offer the V8.

[@bwofficial1776]

mY tEsLa Is FaStEr!!!! Performance is not entirely 0-60, it's the whole sensory experience. There's nothing like a V8.

[@capitanothegreat3994]

Off course you're not buying it but i can tell you right now , its going to sell very well whether you like it or not. There is gonna be New Fans buying it that you will never expect like Vegans, New Generation of Soccer Moms , Rich Car Collectors who buys anything Trending, Some Mopar Fans who will give in like those 2 shown in this Video and Younger Generations New to the Car Game , all these Groups of People will be Way Enough to Keep the Sells going Strong. That is 100% Facts!

[@dutchdna]

This new EV has not been made with you in mind as a customer. It's for the next generation and they love EV's.

[@capitanothegreat3994]

@@dutchdna Amen to that, What Mopar Fans don't Understand is Dodge is going to Sell these very well whether they jump on Board or not , Dodge is gonna have a Brand New Generations of Fans , like you said The New Generations is the Target

[@1BuckeyeRob]

well Brad you won't be looking for long...ICE engines' days are numbered.

[@nefeytirisunamun9186]

I feel dodge is in checkmate here. They either stick to their lineup and die to a shifting market and regulations, or try to innovate now and switch the customer base while they can. But they need to have a narrow line between emulating a gas car or distinguishing their own as a good one, or adding new technologies that stick to the essence of these sport cars.

[@hungcapitalll]

Well said dude

[@Zanatos9]

If they follow the regulations, they'll just get another bailout. No issues for the business. I won't buy an EV, so I'll continue to drive my Cummins in memory of Dodge.

[@alg5534]

That's literally what the vid was about

[@berto3745]

The issue here in CA is the power grid... specially during summertime and being told to hold off on the EV charge bc the grid is overloaded. EV are here to stay but to a certain fan base just like muscle cars!

[@smmuajhossain9910]

My favorite car. One day I'm gonna buy this car. Though that type of car isn't available and permitted to our country but I will do this anyway. love dodge❤❤❤

[@smmuajhossain9910]

@NeckBeardLegion_IV:XX I think you don't understand or get the main point. Please read the comment properly.

[@daveyboots79]

@NeckBeardLegion_IV:XX That wasn't a sick burn, it was just racist. See, when you're the only person who likes your own comment, it doesn't make it a burn, it just shows it's kinda pathetic.

[@daveyboots79]

@NeckBeardLegion_IV:XX Your parents will be so proud

[@edgartex9853]

They could have made an amazing hybrid. That I’d be excited about.

[@lentilreflection2676]

That would be cool

[@lachlanB323]

Hybrids are simply worse though in terms of performance and if you like driving a petrol car for the sound and stuff a hybrid also doesn't make sense. Petrol cars will soon skyrocket in price as demand for them reduce due to full ev's being better. It will take a while to convince people like the ones shown in the video but the social pressure of your car sucks mine is better will get to them.

[@daftcow706]

@@lachlanB323 how exactly are evs better? They are more expensive, have no used car market, and repair is almost unaffordable without warranty. And once the battery permanently dies you just have a big block of plastic and metal. Not even considering the issues with overall range you can drive or the fact you can't really tow anything without loosing almost all range. And in the US I doubt our infrastructure can handle the amount of energy they eat up

[@lachlanB323]

@@daftcow706 No used car market? You're kidding right? Tesla's sell for more second hand then first hand. Unaffordable? 100% now that is something I agree with. Tesla's production constrained due to crazy demand. They have the best margins in the automotive business. Once production exceed the demand Tesla will lower prices. Why am I talking only about Tesla? Because only Tesla profits from ev's and they make A LOT of money. Tesla will lower prices and it REALLY sucks that they're this high.

[@lachlanB323]

@@daftcow706 Batteries are actually very recyclable and Tesla is investing in it due to the long term implementations (Long term profit). Think of batteries as high grade ore. WHY WOULD YOU WASTE IT!? The problem right now for recycling is 1. Not many full ev's as they're on an exponential growth and 2. Full ev's take forever to break down!

[@infamoussquire2955]

id love to see designers learn a way to work with more traditional inputs and functionality like how the guy was saying. linear power output is just not what enthusiasts are looking for, they want the feeling of a gearbox and a shift knob in their hand but still gain benefits in other areas due to futuristic design. maybe turning radii could be smaller or tunable diffs and power modes or something, idk. great vid though, i enjoyed it

[@lucasrem]

White shirt Billie Eilish! Gears on a EUV, carry a hut on wheels with it? Why you need Stick shifts ? You need trending people, support the good products ! GUCCI and apple levels, Tesla, and GM too!

[@duckdestroyer2412]

Or you know, find a way to better store enough compressed hydrogen, and keep the car with an engine. Not a motor.

[@OldSchoolZ-wy2yx]

@@duckdestroyer2412 the problem with hydrogen is it's power density. You need a ridiculous amount of it in a huge tank to get the same range as a small 50l gasoline tank.

[@duckdestroyer2412]

@OldSchool89Z24 that's the point of storing more higher compression hydrogen, would result on longer ranges.

[@robbieelkins2301]

@@lucasrem dude your sentence structure made absolutely no sense. Dear God, where the hell did you learn to write?

[@dougg1075]

Now that’s an electric car I can appreciate.

[@GT-43]

Yes all of us gearheads are totally excited about the new dodge electric muscle car. We can't wait to pay crazy dealer markups and a hear a fake engine reving sound when we press the accelerator while sitting still. This is on par with Jesus returning to earth.

[@Seabasstiann]

Amen

[@adamspencer6666]

The question I keep asking is why does it have to be EV or gas? Can’t we have both?

[@veryrare7647]

federal regulations, basically. politicians taking bribes to pass laws about these things

[@Efiziframes]

The answer is yes

[@salvatorebartolomeo1031]

I only wish that consumers had the option of either being electric or Hemi powered because the body design is so beautiful. But I'm happy with my Scat Pack Challenger.

[@sharonbraselton3135]

We're king hybred

[@ThorfinnSkullsplitter-fz7ff]

If the market were truly free, they would. EVs are a product of government overreach.

[@douglasatkins4206]

Sal, you said it with the word 'option'. I think we should have a choice and not eventually be forced to buy EV's. I also believe that car manufacturers like the profits that they can get from EVs. Except for the batteries which should become cheaper over time, there are far less parts to the drive components in EVs than combustion engines which equals less building costs. It's all about the money! But also consider the fact that Horses are not obsolete so neither will our all of our IC cars unless the government forces it.

[@sharonbraselton3135]

Buy hybred hemi

[@thomasgary1219]

@@douglasatkins4206 Our Befuddled old fart has promised that by 2035 all new cars will be EVs. They are also working very hard to get legislation passed that banks cannot finance new cars unless they are EV. So I would definitely say that in a few years gas cars Will be gone forever.

[@arogers2741]

Will wait for an aftermarket and install that sound system in my Prius.