Will PLANET OF THE APES Ever Bring Back Time Travel?

[@PokeScott101]

Personally I don’t think time travel should be a focus until the potential 3rd trilogy, astronauts crash landing on the planet and basically doing a modern version of the 68 film should be the endgame story for the reboot series. Going in reverse like Escape I don’t think would work in the reboot series. For now the reboot series should just keep things grounded and keep this current timeline going. Great video Josh ✌️

[@LadyhawksLairDotCom]

I think they should stop just short of remaking the original. Just my opinion.

[@GODCONVOYPRIME]

I'm waiting for them to introduce the mutants.

[@efxnews4776]

​@@GODCONVOYPRIMEthe "mutants" were already introduced in Kingdom. But folks failed to realize it was them. Heres the hints... In the original movies there was 2 human factions the feral and the mutants. In Kingdom we have 2 human factions the feral and the normal humans. In Beneath the mutants have psychic powers. In Kingdom they have extensive knowledge about the human mind, psychology and manipulation tactics. In Beneath the mutants say that they don't direct fight their enemies they use their powers to do so, replace this mental power, with psy ops, CIA tactics, spy stuff. The mutants worship a nuke... This faction is very "techie" so their cult must be around technology (like the Brotherhood of Steel in Fallout). Last but not least, the mutants use weird cloths in Beneath. In Kingdom the humans use contemporary well preserved cloating, you can also see the hazmat suit of Karina as weird futuristic vestments ( hey, its vary fashionable outside bunkers for humans). If they trully advance to the point where humans would have psychic powers, a ground way to do this would be using technology, turn folks into cyborgs and bang, you have you mutants with electronic telepathy.

[@Cwmira453]

And bear in mind that, so far, this incarnation of Planet of the Apes has been hard science fiction, and time travel to the future, inside a ship traveling near the speed of light, is actually possible in real life. Traveling backwards in time, not so much, at least according to most scientists. It introduces paradoxes.

[@lightlegion_]

You’re genuinely offering something unique!

[@ethandoyle4978]

Honestly I don’t think we need time traveling in the reboot series ( at least not the “escape” way) . Mainly because we can have the spaceship that got lost in the “Rise” finally land on earth and have new characters, maybe they can help add more to Mae and Noah grow/rebuild their friendship. Personally I don’t want to see time traveling because of what happened at the end of “beneath planet of the apes” and have the series be stuck in a time loop like in the original series .

[@arborvitar1]

the astronauts going forward in time is something i wouldn’t mind. going back in time, is something that would be a complete dealbreaker for me. the reboots feel more grounded in reality

[@FrancisXLord]

There was a very practical reason that travelling back through time was even a part of the original films. Taylor destroyed the Earth in Beneath the Planet of the Apes. The other, again very practical reason, was that the budgets were slashed in half with each successive Apes film. While I can see them repeating the forward through time/returning astronauts plotline, the only reason they would come back in time is if the budget required it. I don't see them, in today's world, ever putting themselves in the same position as Beneath put them in. These days, when deciding how to end a film, they generally consider sequel opportunities.

[@Baldwin-iv445]

That and Charlton Heston wanted to end the series then and there by doing something he felt Taylor could while also hopefully that it was over.

[@Scimmiaimperiale6331]

I think that a time travel like the one in Escape would be very cool, but i don't know if it will ever happen, but in my opinion, if done well, it could result in a very good movie

[@MathiasPedersenGaming]

If they bring back time travel and we see Caesar, Maurice and rocket again and even koba! Would be so cool! Like Mae meeting the villian from war played by wody Harrison and Noa finally meeting caesar would be badass

[@thegamemaster7437]

Easily the best Planet of the apes channel and it’s not even close

[@Ape-Nation]

Thank you!

[@thegamemaster7437]

The goat responds

[@Alejandroigarabide]

Time dilation taking modern humans to the far future? I hope so. Actual time travel backwards in time like in "Escape"? I hope not.

[@Ape-Nation]

Agreed

[@PaulChristianJenkinsJD]

Remember that both Noa and Nova saw something in the telescope, and Noa basically described it as 'a tube swallowing up light.'

[@Alejandroigarabide]

@@PaulChristianJenkinsJD I thought it was a way to describe the telescope itself. But a black hole or wormhole makes more sense.

[@ironvlogger9712]

At the primate "sanctuary" the icarus launches on the news It honestly could happen And im still waiting for a character to be named after Zira

[@jermainehaslam5634]

Time travel can work well, the old apes films handle it well because they were a bit more campy and didn't always have a seriousness to them whereas the modern movies thrived on being serious and more character driven so it may not work for these modern installments awesome video.

[@southernstacker7315]

I've been waiting for the lost Mars mission to show back up.

[@tomhanson4008]

The new series doesn’t need time travel because we already saw how the apes took over, just get to the futuristic stuff already.

[@thelifedyslexic]

Maybe at end of this trilogy film the apes came across the crashed spaceship setting up the next set of films. As for apes time traveling I think they could do a flashback or do it within a dream sequence, beyond that it would difficult to justify it within the more grounded universe they have created.

[@Houseofweird]

I agree that the brief mention of The Icarus was a nice little nod to the original films, but I honestly think it should be left there. If the astronauts are lost, let them be lost in the continuity that led to the original films and let it end there for this version of the franchise.

[@MakaiAlliman_XXX]

Imagine if in the future one of these Planet of the Apes movies goes back in time like example to rise dawn or war and we see Caesar koba Maurice rocket again and it could change things like if Caesar never let a ape uprising or if koba won against Caesar that would be interesting

[@HTMN161]

Nah that would be weird, I think they should leave time travel alone

[@GODCONVOYPRIME]

Yeah and they should make the apes like gender queer and also introduce trans apes right guys cause I mean if we're going with stupid ideas might as well go all out!

[@conrradocaballero7461]

Yes. In the third trilogy. 👍

[@danielmalinen6337]

Interuniverse travel in the original movie series and time travel in the 2001 reboot have been the most heavily criticized parts of the movies, which is why I've thought that this was the reason why they haven't been included in the new rereboot. People have also said that the time travel element also made the original source novel bad and that the latest rereboot fixed what was wrong in the book.

[@Madeintheshade65]

In one of the movies there were a reference to astronauts leaving for a mission to Mars

[@GENERALURSUS-rz7sy]

Well, they set it up with the Icarus reference in "Rise" plus, time travel is in the roots of the franchise from it's beginning with the Pierre Boulle novel. I wouldn't mind it if used like in the novel or original movie but, I wouldn't want it to be like "Escape" that would be too much given how they established this Apes universe. What if the Icarus has already crashed on Earth & Mae or the underground humans we see at the end of "Kingdom" are descendants of the Icarus crew which why they wear suits. I know this was speculated before "Kingdom" released & was kinda forgotten about but that could be a revelation in the next film. But, getting back on time travel like I said I wouldn't want it to be like what we saw in "Escape" I often wish they hadn't went down that rabbit hole with the original series even though they done it very well, I often wonder what direction the franchise could've went if they hadn't nuked Earth in "Beneath".

[@flickgeek830]

If they are headed toward a Planet of the Apes remake (Which they should avoid as much as possible) They should make it as completely different from the 1968 movie as possible.I hope they use the opportunity to make it closer to the original book.

[@DaveBoswell-lz3kc]

I'm pretty sure it will be different and have a different title.

[@Merdicano]

I think its a concept that might be "too complex" for the Caesarverse to explore; there was room for the exploration of the concept during the original five movies, and took very unexpected swings that explored the saga in many different ways, but its mainly because of how the Apes society was more evolved and developed, and more attached into its futuristic and dystopian roots. Having a full domain in science, something that the apes from the Caesarverse are still far behind to have. That being said, while it would be way too early for the concept of time travel to come back, if we narrow a through-line with the possible plot and conflict for a war and hunt for technology, and the access to intercommunication and science for apes to make it their own, and could make it more advanced than the humans. If the possible plotline you mentioned about a war for technology does happen, I'd be inclined that a more scientific and advanced apes society can lead to time traveling making an appearance again

[@edwardchrishooks9918]

Hi I'm Chris from Georgia. I honestly believe the space craft we saw take off and get lost will make there way back to earth. I see no time travel happening because all the events we have scene in these movies have happen while the space craft is missing. On a final note the space craft will be command by a Colonel Taylor.

[@MeNoOther]

Those astronauts lost in space could just do a Buck Roger's in the 25th century thing. The shuttle is frozen somehow, and on a long orbit to return at a different time

[@shanemcnamara8657]

Three astronauts crash in 1960s but it's an ape world with 60s technology and during the Cuban missile crisis and the apes actually blow up the world at the end

[@idurisu930]

why does this sound so cool

[@GreyhawkGrognard]

It seems that time travel is necessary, if they want to link the new movies to the originals. It's the only way to reconcile the differences in the timelines. There are at least 3 and possibly 4 timelines; the original (300 years of ape subjugation, nuclear war, earth destroyed in 3979), the post-Escape timeline (only 8 years of ape subjugation, nuclear war somewhere between 1991-2001), the TV show timeline (human civilization still thriving in 2500, unspecified catastrophe - possibly the same as the original), and the new film timeline (no ape subjugation, no nuclear war).

[@taker68]

I had thought Mae in Kingdom was a time traveller and she kind of is if she was raised in the bunkers cut off from the rest of the world. The Boulle novel had apes with modern technology as did the 70s animated series. I have a feeling they aren't looking for a time travel angle, the underground humans are essentially the same as humans from today. One can assume they were raised with a 21st century mindset.

[@LeonRedmond-u3r]

At the beginning of the first reboot movie, we see the launch of a space craft. At the end of Kingdom, we see humans making contact with someone in space. There must be a connection.

[@mattknill]

i was hoping that by the time the next trilogy comes out, or maybe a trilogy after that, the apes would be more technologically advanced then we are today. given the possibility that there would be another 8 movies or so, in this series. i would like to see a Dr Zaius origin movie. make the final 2 or 3 movies be just as much about him than it is about the astronaut.

[@bigginsd1]

I would hope that the ape civilisation had developed to at least the equivalent of the Renaissance period of humans. I recently read the original book and in that they are similar technology as current day humans, they have spaceflight and are using humans as test subjects in much the same way as humans did with chimpanzees in the early 1960s. They have cars and their cities are built to allow climbing as much as walking as a means of getting around. I’m not sure being that advanced would be worth it in the films, but it would be awesome if the film started with humans seeing Earth from orbit and it being believably a similar level of technology to the one they left. It is a long way off to get there in the series, ideally an 8th or 9th film in my opinion.

[@XpediousF]

Planet of the apes is, was, and always will be about the “world turned upside down”. Whether the modern version makes it to that point or not, is all about financial success; however, that being said, even if it never ends up there on film, it will always end up there in the public consciousness

[@DanielA-no9xv]

I think they should do a remake of the original 1968 plot with the astronauts like taylor

[@andreoliveira191]

It would be cool if movie 7 starts in 2011 (or whatever the year was in Rise) from the point of view of the Astronauts from the Icarus

[@notmephisto1375]

I hope the franchise pays off the set up in Rise with the astronauts time traveling to the far future for the final arc of these movies, but as for altering timelines, I don't want everything we see up to that point to be erased and feel like it was for nothing.

[@symbolofpeacetv1578]

What you doing here 😂

[@gfuelmonster5415]

I could see the time travel focus would be save in a later in a third trilogy of planet of the apes 🦍 plus the next two trilogy’s are going to be forcing on the apes vs mutant like before the 3978 because remember the Icarus launch in the 2016 so this might be a new timeline I think

[@Jon0387]

I think the astronauts are either floating around the solar system in suspended animation or they’ll use time dilation to bring them forward in time. But I don’t think we’ll see until the third or possibly the fourth trilogy. I don’t want actual time travel / alternate timelines. While it’s fun in movies like Back to the Future, in larger, more complex series it just creates a mess with the storytelling.

[@SuperDarrenc]

They started the time travel in the re-boot with mark wallberg when he crash lands on earth with apes instead of humans. Then it was dropped. Surely there must be humans in a zoo

[@Chadjira09]

They might bring time travel back but it may not be the focus of the overall film. Aside from a few callbacks the new franchise is mostly connected to the original series in-name only. Hopefully they'll bring back astronauts tho.

[@Chelle.85]

I don't mind time travel mabey later on in the series & if it's actually done properly.

[@arzn253]

I think it'll happen in the sequel to kingdom in '27

[@efxnews4776]

Theres a big difference between time travel and time dilation... Time travel is a vague term to displacement in time. Time dilation is different, is very theoretical, but it is in the realm of physics, you can travel in time by time dilation. thing would be that you can only travel to the future not the past. Did anyone remember how in interstellar time dialation happen? Same principle. Another possibility is wormholes..

[@ljcorner7393]

If they do go back to idea of time travel in the prequel/reboot series that Andy Serkis started it would be so cool if in a what if scenario that Mae survived all the way up til the third movie of Noa’s movie and say she was living underground just like the mutants in Beneath and she undergoes under Noa’s trust then finds the bomb that the colonel probably leftover before he died in war and why I say the colonel is because the logo in beneath had the same logo in war for the Planet of The Apes therefore it be a nice Easter egg from the past then we can get a possible reimagining of escape from the Planet of The Apes With the reboot series 7th Movie, were I would like to see Noa escape earths destruction and goes in the Icarus ship then travel to Rise timeline and witnesses how his people involved from there primitive state honestly I would love to make the next one #Amanda Silver make more Apes and support Ape nation 🔥

[@Officer_KD_6]

I also think it’s way too soon for time travel and that it’s something for a potential third trilogy

[@ALEXTHEGAMER22]

For a modern version of the original movie to happen an recreate the iconic statue of liberty scene they have to have a nuclear war

[@Ape-Nation]

Agreed

[@raymondcanessa7208]

Dr. Otto Hasslein would have to be a "time traveler" or "Time Lord" in order to connect to the Original Series to the New PLANET OF THE APES Movies. A time travel causality loop. Mae will sing Mae" aka 2nd Lieutenant Maryann Stewart played by Freya Allan Colonel George Taylor played by Walton Goggins Reply

[@GODCONVOYPRIME]

What the fuck are you talking about?

[@MathiasPedersenGaming]

Time travel was done well in endgame could be done well here too

[@paulclow3398]

I hope they don't because any future films (of which i hope there are many) will eventually lead up to the original films.

[@Bingo_of_Buckland]

Problem with the movies, they used politics with USA/USSR space race to do the story. If you watched the first movie the Spacecraft is called Liberty one. The original novel and the film franchise had a differnt plot line.

[@TheTanman412]

The time traveling human will be Matt Damon

[@GODCONVOYPRIME]

When are they going to introduce the mutants with the nuclear bomb?

[@WilliamLovell-oh1rb]

Not all franchises need time travel. There could be plenty of cool ideas in this reboot; Maybe the apes capture baby elephants and raise them as war beasts, or the gorillas ride cows instead of horses, and maybe an orangutan village invents boats and makes a business catching and trading fish? Maybe the apes breed humans with bulbous eyes or long legs to take to human shows or small humans who can work in mines? Maybe the apes invent androids? Maybe there's transgender apes? Maybe the chimpanzees and bonobos become mouth pieces for conservatives and liberals? Maybe the gibbons evolve to become intelligent? Or maybe baboons evolve to be more intelligent and the baboons have a war with the apes? We don't need time travel in every universe.

[@G-POWER.46-lx9hi]

LOOK HERE... DOING A SCI-FI MOVIE SERIES. ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN!!!

[@whodat4ever80]

As far as modern day astronauts landing on earth 2000 years in the future, yes. A full on remake of the OG POTA set in this continuity WILL happen eventually. It won’t be in this trilogy, but it’ll be in the next. As far as future apes or humans going back to the past, No

[@GODCONVOYPRIME]

They shouldn't use trime travel at all if they want to tie in the original films they should just leave it as is.

[@futurefilms5429]

What if noa and soona escape to space during the war between humans and apes and then they accidentally crashes on past earth 2011 before Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes 🥵

[@UncleJ.D.]

Camera zoom in on noah's face....... Camera very shakingly orbitz Around noah's head. .... Leading into a p o v shot Through the eyes of noah Seeing scenes from the past manifesting in front of him As he is having a vision of the past , based on what he was Is told by raka and any Written down stories that may exist about caesar and times leading up to his present time..... Being snapped out of it by whichever other ape character Is or possibly by may...... I'm just saying I think that would be cool

[@bookerlee4752]

Let's hope not!

[@patricktilton5377]

Anything's possible, of course, but let me just go off on a flight of fancy and imagine one possible avenue the makers of Post-KINGDOM movies in the Reboot series could do . . . The Mars-bound ICARUS might have encountered traces of a non-terrestrial intelligence there, and -- for whatever reason -- been placed in a state of Time suspension, be it a stasis field or some cryogenic-type cold storage . . . whereupon they are thawed out centuries later -- perhaps in the 3900s (3955? 3978?), and they then find a way to get themselves back to Earth, nearly 20 centuries after they had originally left. By that time, of course, the fledgling civilization that Caesar's group had established will have 'blossomed' into a more sophisticated one, with perhaps an elaborate State-sanctioned 'history' based on a new 'Scripture' akin to the 'SACRED SCROLLS' we saw on the original PLANET OF THE APES. Whether or not the high-tech remnants of Human society we see still existing at the end of KINGDOM are still around, still getting on in their hermetically-sealed bunkers, that remains to be seen. What kinds of alterations might THEY undergo after another 18 centuries or so, pending the Return of the crew of the ICARUS to Earth? If some sort of exotic super-science discovered by those astronauts on Mars just MIGHT lead to them having an opportunity to go Back into the distant Past . . . back to before the ALZ drug was unleashed on the world in RISE, leading to the creation of an Alternate Timeline so as to prevent the infection that leads to Humanity's downfall (etc.), then maybe -- just MAYBE -- we might see a new Reboot version of a Time Travel scenario causing a CHANGE in the Future. It might be as simple a thing as the murder of Will Rodman, preventing him from creating the Stage 1 version of the ALZ drug, not to mention the later, more deadly version of ALZ that 'uplifts' the Apes all-the-while diminishing Humanity to a state of mute retardation. None of us knows what future Reboot APES movies might do, but I could easily see them unfolding in somewhat of the manner my above scenario suggests. Something similar was done in the Trek franchise, with their Kelvin-verse having split off from the 'Prime' Universe, etc. etc. The Reboot future of RISE, then DAWN then WAR then KINGDOM -- and so on and so forth -- could be thought to keep going on as a PARALLEL TIMELINE to an altered one, where the ICARUS crew goes back in Time to PREVENT that Future, creating an Alternate Parallel Universe that doesn't end up as a planet of apes. Such a scenario COULD happen . . . but whether or not it DOES happen is anyone's guess.

[@cinemaarts8795]

Kinda hope not, prefer the more realistic take with this new series.

[@DuzdyAnimates]

“Realistic”😂 The fact that tuis is realistic compared to the older movies just shows how crazy those movies were (except for the 68 one [kinda])

[@elpazz7625]

Time travel ??? Read the comic books the telepathic mutants helped the apes repair and launch Taylor spaceship

[@zacharysmith8902]

No

[@MasterMayhem78]

I’d be disappointed if not.

[@GaeaProjects]

I prefer they stay as grounded as they can be with the premise, rather than introducing anything super sci-fi like psychic mutans or time travel paradoxes. Let Marvel, DC, and the MonsterVerse play with those.

[@mrkattm]

Time travel has too many continuity problems, it really is just a crutch for lazy writing.