Will Seam become a DELTARUNE SECRET BOSS! (Deltarune theory)

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@ValueNetwork 11 ай бұрын

My apologies over my sudden break from youtube, put simply i didnt have time to make youtube videos in the second half of this year. thats thankfully changed, and you can expect some theory videos from me in the new year!

@drypenny3561 8 ай бұрын

I think Seam might be the Judge (like Sans) of deltarune where he meets you at the end and congratulates you for the secret bosses you've beaten and the shadow crystals you've have gotten but judges you for the weird routes you tried to start or went through and also the amount of times you've just decided to use violence to get through your problems.

@peggsnbacon 11 ай бұрын

I'm more than certain we'll learn more about Seam somehow! They're a truly fascinating character, and I can't wait to return to their little Seap.

@JudeEaley 11 ай бұрын

Perhaps seam too wants to become free, but seeing spamton, knows he needs more power.

@name-h7x 10 ай бұрын

The thing is that the secret bosses have both been driven insane. That's the whole point of the freedom motif, you can also hear the freedom motif in other songs, not just the secret boss ones. The shop theme only has the because Seam is associated with the secret bosses.

@Sleeping_Less 11 ай бұрын

Glad to find a fellow seam enjoyer! It’s always a treat to see an analysis or someone theorizing about him

@insertnamehere1398 4 ай бұрын

my personal theory is that he'd be a 2nd secret boss in a chapter. availible when you return to castle town to test you to make sure you're worthy to collect more. rather then being a full fledged villain

@omniscientomnipresent5500 11 ай бұрын

Something i'm surprised you didn't show is that Flowey takes Shawn's eyes when he says everyone in his boss battle. Show that he's a character thought from some time already.

@JudeEaley 11 ай бұрын

6:53 this also tells us the game has a bad ending, as he says nothing we do matters. If he knows everything, he must be pessimistic for a reason.

@gray.puppet 11 ай бұрын

Is it just me? Or does seam kinda look like Gaster. Like the button taking the place of Gaster's open eye, then there's the curve of the other eye with a sharp smile? There's also a stitch under the button eye which matches Gaster's design, just a thought.

@godofportal5905 Ай бұрын

NONO NO NO NO NO NO

@wisteria2509 11 ай бұрын

i love this because i love seam and i think they are clearly important in some way, but they are still... skippable. obviously most players go into seam's shop in chapter 1 and in town but they literally just don't have to. as much as they feel important, i can't really see a way to.. clearly bring them into the focus of anything

@wisteria2509 11 ай бұрын

@@Gertyyyyyy ooh yes that sounds cool, only time will tell i guess

@leritykay8911 8 ай бұрын

I mean the same goes for other secret bosses, they are missable as well. And heck, if you're doing Jevil, Seam is mandatory. So, maybe you can fight seam only if you beat every other secret boss, and if you're doing secret bosses, then you're definetly not missing a non-secrer shopkeeper

@leedlelel2373 8 ай бұрын

@@leritykay8911you have to give the shadow crystals to them as well, so theyre sorta mandatory for *every* secret boss if you go along with the full sidequest

@DJ_Music_Man2 3 ай бұрын

Both Spamton Neo and Jevil share the colours of Purple Yellow and Green. Seam has Purple fur and a Yellow coat and a Green outline

@extrocacity 11 ай бұрын

Seam the Shadowmaster Atk 75 Def 97 The shade crystals have absorbed into his body. Creating a god.

@MrEggington2 11 ай бұрын

nice, but jevil alone has 5 defence, and thats like a 5% attack debuff, defence 97 = 97% attack debuff.

@coolrobloxepicpro 8 ай бұрын

12:39 Latern doesn't have the freedom leitmotif, the tempos matching doesnt matter that much. Latern only has the rude buster leitmotif and determination.Latern is essentially just rude buster in 3/4

@rangedweevil6150 8 ай бұрын

That in and of itself is interesting though, why make the shop theme more or less a variation on the standard battle theme from deltarune/ the game over theme from Undertale?

@MirageIslander 10 ай бұрын

oh shit they're gonna genoseam us

@SatireGod 11 ай бұрын

Seam is an anagram of same, not important but could hint that he is the same as the other secret bosses, abandoned from the light world, and in the dark world someone who sees futility in their choices

@Lagw1020 11 ай бұрын

About knowing the future and the past, my theory is that they all know that they're in the game, and they know how the game ends, and no matter what you do, you'll reach the same ending, and they'll never truly be free. I think Ralsei also knows, but he wants the player to play through it, similar to Flowey. Seam sees every action as futile, Jevil becomes chaotic knowing that his actions don't have consequences, and Spamton wants to break the away from the inevitability.

@saanPitza718 7 ай бұрын

Its sad but truth

@Lisspeed 11 ай бұрын

I've always loved the idea of Seam being a Secret Boss despite the fact many often wonder why I feel this way. But I always wonder... Why would they want the Shadow Crystals? They're an abandoned item, they know stuff about the game and its mechanics that others would not and often times even wonders Kris for what is to come. To me it almost seems like they're collecting those crystals to become more powerful and if anything may use it to fight the party to test their strengths, but who knows! Time will tell! Very interesting and well done video analysis! :D

@josephconover5270 10 ай бұрын

People that equip the Twisted Sword via using the Spamton Save editor has the Trance effect. HOWEVER, the arrow on it is in a downwards direction compared to the upwards one shown when you have Noelle equip the Thorn Ring. That may mean that the Pure Crystal inverses the effect of something like the Thorn Ring could be very, VERY, interesting.

@SullyTheLightnerd 7 ай бұрын

Finally a modern deltarune KZbinr who puts effort into the editing!

@ValueNetwork 7 ай бұрын

Thank you, I’ll be coming back to KZbin relatively soon, I have big plans

@SullyTheLightnerd 7 ай бұрын

@@ValueNetwork thanks! I myself put a lot of work into editing my videos lately so I have been extra observant on who edits good and who edits just okay. So despite you only having less than 2K subs, I’d still say that you edit better than bugger KZbinrs like dorked or jaru

@Chill_Demon545 9 ай бұрын

Did they/them It will be a secret boss that is more difficult than Jevil or Sans? :0

@Mazerwolf 11 ай бұрын

I’m sorry but i have to say that “Value Network” is an incredibly funny name to me for some reason

@ValueNetwork 11 ай бұрын

The Spamton value network happened when my YT properly blew up for the first time so I just named myself after that! I like the name, its strong enough to work outside of Deltarune: but those in the know also get the reference

@Cel684 11 ай бұрын

I confidently believe they’ll be the Snowgrave final boss, maybe even with Megalovania playing but that’s just a long shot Edit: forgot seam’s a they oops

@heitorsant1759 11 ай бұрын

But snowgrave spamton doesn't give you a shadow crystal I think

@Cel684 11 ай бұрын

@@heitorsant1759 i've played it enough times, either he does or you go and get it from the corner of town in the left side

@heitorsant1759 11 ай бұрын

@@Cel684 oh ok!!!!!

@Cel684 11 ай бұрын

@@heitorsant1759 ye

@loubaxo9339 10 ай бұрын

that would be really cool

@rawquikh0ney710 10 ай бұрын

Would be pretty cool if the other routes have different big bosses

@sansationalgaming8420 11 ай бұрын

Idk man seam is cool, and seeing the paper trial comic “fight” I’m interested in seams combat possibilities

@alexcole9325 2 ай бұрын

Is there a Circus Dial Tone and Lantern mashup on KZbin?

@lvoryRose 10 ай бұрын

I don't believe so, since the pattern of someone unexpected being a boss has kinda... Been done already by Toby, so I don't believe he would do that again, that is just the meta reason though.

@bigtoblerone8446 7 күн бұрын

Basically Seam is Gaster

@xpiredmilk5270 11 ай бұрын

He’s also aware he’s a video game character. Why would you need to say your name is pronounced XYZ if you are just speaking with someone? He knows that there’s someone reading his words.

@ValueNetwork 11 ай бұрын

I don’t know if Seam was intentionally breaking the 4th wall in that moment. I typically don’t like to use straight 4th wall breaks in these videos unless it’s obviously building towards something (like Jevils game metaphor) or it’s intertwined with the Meta narrative like a lot of the gaster stuff is. And that’s mainly because Toby does it a lot for Mundane things like tutorials, and it’s usually easy to tell what’s a Joke 4th wall break VS a lore 4th wall break. I think That line could just be Toby joking and clarifying the pronunciation for the reader. He does the same for Rouxls in chap 2 (But if you really want to use that line for a theory, I guess you could probably connect that to Spamton breaking the 4th wall at the fountain in Snowgrave)

@Cubicflow 11 ай бұрын

It's odd because he just seems to be a normal darkner, yet has some sort of meta knowledge like Ralsei or the extra bosses

@Cubicflow 11 ай бұрын

@@ValueNetwork clearly roulx kaard is gaster

@the_famba 11 ай бұрын

I don't think Shane will be a secret boss but just a boss

@ValueNetwork 11 ай бұрын

Ok, thats a interesting take! can i ask why? because i dont see how a Seam fight can fit into the games structure without them being a part of the secret boss questline.

@Cel684 11 ай бұрын

Yeah Shane is terrifying /lh

@ThisIsAHandle-xz5yo 5 ай бұрын

I mean they are very connected to the secret bosses, so it would be kinda hard for someone who hasn’t interacted with the secret bosses to understand what’s going on

@kingofcrap4414 10 ай бұрын

All those that use they/them pronouns for Seam get a big thumbs-up from me. That is all.

@matthewblaikie7903 11 ай бұрын

hey I made this theory like a month ago

@ValueNetwork 11 ай бұрын

We had the same idea then! I’m not the first person to propose this idea: this has been popular in the community for a while, I just gathered evidence for it to show my perspective on it. Do you have your theory written down somewhere? I would like to read it!

@matthewblaikie7903 11 ай бұрын

@@ValueNetwork pretty sure I put it on the deltarune subreddit (my name there is hypercoffee1320 or something along those lines) if you want to try dig it up. I wish you luck!

@marsgreekgod 11 ай бұрын

wait wait what lancer doesn't say that. at 3:35. thats not in the script? what?

@ValueNetwork 11 ай бұрын

If you say no when Ralsei offers to tell you the prophecy in chapter 1, lancer bursts in and tells an abridged version instead. He mentions that he’s in the legend then says that they have to go east to seal the fountain. So yeah: It’s in the script! (I messed up reading MY script by saying darkner instead of Kid at that moment, but that doesn’t matter, the same sentiment was conveyed: Lancer knows he’s in the legend)