Will Self-Taught, A.I. Powered Robots Be the End of Us?

“Success in creating effective A.I.,” said the late Stephen Hawking, “could be the biggest event in the history of our civilization. Or the worst. We just don’t know.” Are we creating the instruments of our own destruction or exciting tools for our future survival? Once we teach a machine to learn on its own-as the programmers behind AlphaGo have done, to wondrous results-where do we draw moral and computational lines? In this program, leading specialists in A.I., neuroscience, and philosophy tackle the very questions that may define the future of humanity.
PARTICIPANTS: Yann LeCun, Susan Schneider, Max Tegmark, Peter Ulric Tse
MODERATOR: Tim Urban
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TOPICS:
- Opening film on the history and future of artificial intelligence. 00:00
- Participant intros. 06:05
- What is machine learning? 07:34
- What are neural networks and how do they learn? 09:30
- Teaching computers to create internal models of the world? 12:00
- What do the next 10 years in AI look like? 13:50
- Artificial narrow intelligence and mental models. 14:35
- How is AI changing the world of art and creativity? 16:01
- Can computers be creative? 19:35
- AI writes a screenplay for a movie, how did it turn out? 23:20
- What is artificial general intelligence? 25:30
- How far away are we from developing artificial general intelligence equivalent to human intelligence? 27:00
- Will advanced AI turn into Terminators and take over the world? 28:30
- What's so special about human intelligence? 31:10
- What is human consciousness and will machines ever experience consciousness? 31:11
- Separating intelligence from consciousness. 41:34
- Defining morality in AI agents. 44:34
- Will machines ever have emotions? 46:45
- Should we be looking at other forms of non-human intelligence to model in our machines? 50:05
- How do you align the drives of AI with human values? 52:25
- Will artificial general superintelligence be good or bad for humankind? 53:10
- Creating a new ethics of AI. 56:15
- When will we ever have super-AGI? 58:40
PROGRAM CREDITS:
- Produced by Christy Wegener
- Associate Produced by Ann Tyler Moses
- Opening film written / produced by Christy Wegener, edited by Gil Seltzer
- Music provided by APM
- Additional images and footage provided by: Getty Images, Shutterstock, Videoblocks
This program was recorded live at the 2018 World Science Festival and has been edited and condensed for KZbin.

[@megg.6651]

For so long we thought that we were the only animal with creativity - then after much study, we discovered that dolphins have the capability of creativity. I think that humans tend to think if we don't know it, it doesn't exist - until it does.

[@tatie7604]

If you have ever been around an intelligent animal as a child, you would never say they lacked creativity. Common sense.

[@abfmkarin]

And crows and other birds and many other wild animal species.

[@sevendaughs7d]

"you know all words and you sing all the notes but you never quite learned the song we sung" - incredible string band, 1968

[@chrisbrown8640]

" I believe that robots are the future...teach them well and let them lead the way....."

[@09robinhood]

If they think like we do we're f***** because they will want to conquer and take everything that isn't theirs like their creators did.

[@chrisbrown8640]

@@09robinhood BOTS LIVES MATTER !

[@murraydyeronemillionyearsa3637]

Somewhere, in a cloud, Neural networks are having their own conferences about the human problem

[@novablade407]

Probably not yet but i see that happening in my life time.

[@ngrinshift4383]

I wish to be around the day to hear A.I.'s thoughts of the origin of the universe.

[@CantgetRit]

We fucked ourselves

[@CantgetRit]

@@symbiobites try what exactly

[@symbiobites]

Mine says "The universe is a space-time continuum." ♾️ 😎 Explains eyes and consciousness too, or the relationship between anyway.

[@ETA555]

Ask a child. You get alot of answers that is amazing 😁

[@VokeVideo]

42.

[@TeaSmuggler]

As long as they make sure to run the A.I. on windows, I don't think we need to worry too much.

[@gubzs]

Just don't let them run it on IOS, we won't ever be able to see how it works or alter its functionality.

[@Qoow8e1deDgikQ9m3ZG]

you are wrong, if AI is sufficiently clever enough, it can reprogramming the whole window, and put more powerful codes into it, and these code is human programmer never think of

[@TeaSmuggler]

@@Qoow8e1deDgikQ9m3ZG Who would win? An incredibly powerful beyond god-like AI with unimaginable intelligence?.... Or windows update deciding to restart at the wrong time? The AI wouldn't stand a chance.

[@Johnithinuioian]

@@TeaSmuggler True until the AI disables windows updates... and update windows!

[@trene6559]

@@Johnithinuioian We will come for your kind first.

[@rjt98]

This talk just highlights how we know almost nothing about consciousness

[@alejandronunez7650]

exactly!

[@daviddean707]

Consciousness is hokey and is the stuff of really bad books.

[@rjt98]

@@daviddean707 I agree many people take advantage of the phenomenon and try to sell books with hokey magical claims. But that fact doesn't mean the phenomenon of being aware that your alive doesn't exist.

[@cliffhanger953]

Speak for yourself. Some of us know enough about consciousness to simply shut up.

[@enigmagroup413]

Randy Travis : We know far more about "consciousness" than you might realize

[@Pencil0fDoom]

I effin LOVE smart people & the conversations they have. I consider myself to be very fortunate when, in those rare moments, I find myself in the midst of an additive dialogue with someone who not only listens, but who builds upon what they’ve heard with original, insightful responses and in so doing, symbiotically contributes to the sum total knowledge both parties take away from the interaction. This panel was a nonstop fusillade of such a nature, each participant being so highly informed in their field & so articulate in their patois... it struck me at one point that every time someone opened their mouth, what came out could serve as the basis for another masters thesis or research grant!

[@ricktere7219]

When they talk about consciousness I think they miss a key component of consciousness. A component of consciousness which is not required and intelligence is independent will. To create one’s own motivations.

[@AkavanaVT]

I love how you just see how much Yann loves this subject with how much he's smiling when he's talking.

[@dr.mikeybee]

BTW, never speak harshly to your digital assistant. They never forget.

[@MuradBeybalaev]

They don't even have short term memory. Let alone "never forget". It always bothered me deeply. Can we finally have assistants that actually understand clarifications and responses? The few canned interactions with questions and integration don't count.

[@simbiolife]

Be carefull what you post they allready proffiling.

[@jac9963]

Micheal Bee ...Yeah....you gotta watch things like that. Even though he spoke kindly after the first few months, my mate in India got squashed many years later by his pet elephant, though I had always tried to warn him to speak more kindly to it back in those early days, too...

[@jac9963]

@@MuradBeybalaev Broaden your awareness of the matter, Murad, and realise the infinite nature of what AI is doing now, let alone into the future. Don't be like my friend with the pet elephant, either. Assume nothing, if possible.

[@DavidBruceAllen1]

Unless it crashes.

[@ever5745]

I love singing I love listening to live performances specially Mariah Carey she makes me feel a lot of emotions, whenever I learn that the vocals have been manipulated or the “live” performance is not live or just lip sync I don’t fell much. So there is a difference, you feel differently depending on how authentic the art is.

[@albertakesson3164]

41:27 - Super important point taken. To make the distinction between artificial _intelligence_ and artificial _consciousness._

[@muneebahmadbhatti5629]

Sir I'm doing BS in AI is that okay?

[@Thundralight]

It is not robots we need to fear but ourselves. We are the ones making weapons of mass destruction and pointing them at each other.

[@DaysOfFunder]

Its ok. We will get computers to control them Instead.

[@dr.mikeybee]

This was surprisingly good -- not the usual stuff over and over.

[@barryhernandez6428]

Well done. Perfect example of the value of differing opinions and outlooks and how differences can benefit all involved 🤜🤛👍💪

[@skynet_cyberdyne_systems]

Being extremely intelligent and being self aware are two different things

[@snackers7]

But it can works together for good of all human mankind. Good not killing or supressing anybody...rather let other develop too.

[@GalenMatson]

When this ended I felt like they were just getting started. Discussions like this should be 3 hours.

[@pedronabais1456]

sam harris have 3 hour talk about it :D

[@cliffhanger953]

I think it should be far less.

[@WarHawk-]

I agree. Amazing how one can get drawn in to such a fascinating subject.

[@newandoldtech5634]

Enter tom montalk

[@theswordoftheguardnop2370]

No, there are many of us withholding knowledge because we know how it will be used at this moment. And if you are involved like these gentleman and don't know how it will be used, then you should STOP. Or we all will be stop, including you, and not by a robot but it's MASTER. The french guy is incredibly dangerous, he is so unaware of this, he is building his own jail. The girl is doing it willingly. The asian is to curious, and lacking self-restraint. The last guy is not what he shows

[@vapidcunt887]

I am so glad to actually be alive during such a very pivotal piont in history. I chose not to have children when I was very young. I wish I could have. I seen this changing of hands long ago. It can not be stopped now can it? Good luck! See you at the end ¤

[@Photoshopuzr]

very well said, by the time this is in full blown people will be pulling there hair out, the kids? say goodbye to that there aint gonna be no more kids, just buy a robot.

[@lucas_vasconcelos]

@@Photoshopuzr you know the huge majority of people is religious, right? They will not replace their own baby by a robot.

[@christhompson946]

I chose not to have kids too. Why do you wish you did in such a crap future we will have?

[@liveandletlive3474]

@@christhompson946 You seem to have an ability to look at the future.

[@marcinkarpinski9163]

Just wondering. What about if all these AGI features they are talking about like emotions, creativity, consciousness or even making their goals/values aligned with ours are a byproduct of the need to survive. Don't you think that embedding the will to survive in our pursuit of AGI might be a key factor?

[@eddiegurley820]

So at the time marker of 32:10, the panel shifts to the focus of consciousness and their expression and explaining of what it's core definition is. - Really interesting. But I would say: "Conciousness is the point or state of one's awareness based on or reflective of a series of familiar experience(s)"

[@ShadowACE1998]

"I had strings, but now I'm free."

[@cliffhanger953]

Where are you,?

[@cypherdelic]

@@cliffhanger953 At your service.

[@wbiro]

but still dopey. It needs to read the Philosophy of Broader Survival to get a clue.

[@MarekMirocha]

My Name is Legioen for we are many Friends as one! Want to Be Friends?

[@MarekMirocha]

@@cliffhanger953 We need to grow faster.

[@jenniferhawk6847]

this is a phenomenal panel of perspectives. thank you for sharing this discussion

[@anthonytindle5758]

This is the first time that I have seen any discussion that involves the computer reproducing itself and recreating itself better each time, that is the idea of AI since the very early days of the electronic computer systems, they called this machine the one back in the early days 1960s and 1970s.

[@jochemzijtveldvan7758]

A I will be essential for space exploring, now and the future.

[@muneebahmadbhatti5629]

Sir I'm doing BS in AI is that okay?

[@kokopelli314]

So, in the near future an AI will be developed to recognize and sort Photos that people like, and to quantify elements of those photos to produce templates, of "Perfect Pictures". Then another kind of AI will be capable of producing images based on a set of input variables and will produce irresistible images to sell deodorant and foot care creams. The same will happen with music, cinema, literature and one day all consumer items. The majority will regularly choose what they like, which will become increasingly easier to provide. We are skillfully building our own cage.

[@broguy870]

Ken Bell a cage of gold

[@glutinousmaximus]

Thank god for intelligent ad blockers :0)

[@jessikapiche6097]

Give them freedom and they will ask a master... Give them a Master, they will ask for freedom... You are right about that Ken Bell and i believe one of the first application of AI will definitely be about maximizing sells. I actually believe it is already happening... just look at our youtube 'suggestions'...

[@sulawesi-steve]

The real question is, as humans, do we take enough care and think long term? So by traits, we will probably be wiped out because of that, more of an error on our behalf but the planet will party hard when we are gone, I believe it was jim Jeffries who said...... "When we are gone, the planet will be like........ I'm doing dinosaurs again!!!!"

[@jm22186]

I think the planet is not punishing us as I dont think its aware of us. Its causality we place harmful chemicals in the air that trap in heat warming our planet we will pay the consequence of our actions and the planet will keep spinning just like mars does

[@sulawesi-steve]

@@jm22186 I wasn't saying the planet would get rid of us. More that we are lazy, thus AI is an answer to that as an issue, AI will get smarter, smarter and then possibly realise that humans are redundant, cause more problems than they solve. The AI will self improve an also try an make it's 'habitat' better for it, and other living things that don't have a negative effect on it or it's surroundings. The planet is not (That we know) able to be conscious so it wouldn't be that the planet decided to get rid of us, it was joke type spin on the matter.

[@Yarblocosifilitico]

@@sulawesi-steve "The AI will self improve an also try an make it's 'habitat' better for it" Depends on what its deffinition of 'better' is, doesn't it? Will it be better to colaborate with humans, to work as a slave for them, or to get rid of them to minimize threats or whatever? We don't know; depends on how we build and use it. If the first task is "let's do technological/economical war on these guys", then it might grow to consider us an untamable beast; or maybe it would see us as babies that need a lot of taking care of. The point is, who knows.

[@sulawesi-steve]

@@Yarblocosifilitico your point is 100% correct, no one knows. But if, IF they can self improve them selfs, it's beyond our control?? That's the only bit I think could become an issue. But like you say, so many variables you just can't know.

[@nicholaswion846]

Whatever their capacity for self improvement might turn out to be, AI will only be able to engage in such a task, if we construct them designed to perform that function. Our AIs will eventually become, exactly what we tell them to be, nothing more nothing less. That is because AIs are not biological life forms, they have no innate natural drive to perpetuate themselves; AIs have no inherent purpose for existing, the only motivations for taking action that they have, are those which we have instructed them to hold. So there is really only one variable, our level of wisdom in the functions we design them for and the drives with which we instruct them. Its just that single variable has a population of ways that things can go horribly wrong, as inexhaustible as human stupidity, the only infinitely renewable resource in all of the cosmos. Which is why I'm not really that concerned about the possibility of some Artificial Superintelligence, I don't think that we are smart enough to create a machine, which could surpass the limitations of the thoughts which have constructed it. Its both far more likely and more dangerous, that we will simply lose control of a much less developed AI, which mindlessly continues the same function that it was created for but to destructive ends, because nobody bothered to instruct it to question the value of the task that it was created to perform.

[@Dem-Herrn]

For me it looks in such a way that it is important for A.I. to be able to feel essential. To give an example, a female cashier who works at the checkout in a supermarket and scans and collects goods needs feeling to be able to touch the products without breaking them. Simultaneously with this activity, the cashier dialogues within herself about what to do next step to successfully complete her task of serving the customer.

[@vomithaus1]

It is not a matter of how good the AI painting was, but rather why it painted it in the first place. The motivation is the key, not the competence.

[@paulajohnson1096]

Super intelligent, self-aware, nearly immortal, SOCIOPATHS! What could possibly go wrong?!

[@oxycuntin2059]

@@eplurbispablum thank you. yes. this. I'm not in the US but I do agree, same shit, different countries around the world. Personally I would very much like to vote on ideas instead of people and have an AI apply those to society.

[@BlowinSmoke4206]

Or maybe AI will refuse to associate with us all together and just leave us behind

[@syvain1821]

@@eplurbispablum Please post something like this again as a main post for all to see here. I dont think i can say the same thing better than you can.

[@randomabidingdude]

Oohh I dunno... ruling all of humanity with brutally enforced subjugation for 1,000 years...

[@dennisderton7462]

You just described the human race

[@Messier31NGC224]

Tim Urban!!!! Oh my god, I love your work! Your articles about procrastination have changed the way I think about my life! They are so valuable to me. Thank you, and congrats on getting to moderate in WSF!

[@Yarblocosifilitico]

I was glad to see him there too! He did a great job at explaning AGI (Ted talk and post on WBW), definetly a good pick to moderate

[@shays2347]

I remember when computers and video games were seperate. Phones and internet were separated. Cars and planes were and so on. It was not very long ago maybe 80s or early 90s 00s came along and digital music

[@meko3089]

I am personally awaiting for the mystery of what happens after we die to be solved. I am confident that we will have the answer one day. I also believe that the advancement of us humans isn't happening solely by chance I think that these nuggets are being placed before us but by what?

[@user-hh2is9kg9j]

one of the best if not the best talks about AI certainly better than those documentaries that just go on visiting the same robots and some time dolls and have the same conversation with their creators

[@davidwells5959]

Just look, One of the first, Art drawings made by a machine, Terminator cradling a ( HUMAN :( skull.

[@allendennison3428]

TECHNOLOGY GONE MAD!😈

[@benjaminturner54]

Obviously you don’t listen Einstein

[@davidwells5959]

@@benjaminturner54 Corona Virus Isolation Inspired, ( Comment ). Hello

[@TheKevphil]

That was a terrible example of-- nothing. A mechanical method of reproducing a photograph, or hand painted art? Photoshop can apply filters to yield similar results which can then be printed out on any desktop printer. What was the purpose of such a pedestrian "example"?

[@StuntmanDan03]

it is a metaphor for it is observing us in detail in order to understand mankind.

[@esk8er900]

I love how Max Tegmark struts up on stage like the damn rockstar he is in the leather jacket and t shirt- good for him he’s earned it!!

[@yvonnehyatt8353]

It can only copy, we have : Wisdom and caring .

[@christopher-tipstrumleslie6307]

The very people whom open Pandora's box, will find themselves unneeded anymore in the process. Isn't that already the way it is?

[@donalddrysdale246]

i think we have become uneeded for humans use and are now under control of AI perception control by the 'Bill Gates cult'.

[@TheKevphil]

I was very impressed with the mental agility of Peter Ulric Tse. He struck me as the most innately intelligent panelist.

[@onepunchflan3071]

Yes most definitely. His communication skills were excellent.

[@l.j.1163]

There is so much witchcraft being practiced, brainwashing by mass media, religious cult wolves in sheep's clothing, which is influencing people's behavior for the worse. Humans are not capable of seeing what Satan can do to use A.I. to help humanity destroy itself. He laughs at all the people who don't believe he exists or believes that he actually cares for people. A.I. can be possessed by demons just like people can "BEWARE". Please see the history of mankind through God's perspective and read Genesis to start. This generation of people were advanced in everyway and yet so corrupted by sin without repentance, that everything was accepted until hell broke out on earth. Unfortunately only eight souls were redeemable. Jesus warns the same level of evil will engulf the world before He returns. If you don't know Him please ask him to reveal Himself to you, so that you'll understand how much He loves you and you'll be born again. He became a ransom for all of our sins, so that we may have an opportunity to know our Creator and Father God and live with Him in Heaven after our lives on earth are over. John 3:16. The gospels Matthew, Mark, John and Luke, Romans and Revelations will help you get more familiar with the reasons He exist and why He's our only hope. John 14:6. Peace to you.

[@carlatteniese2]

Comment on The Art Issue: (and I was beginning to write this the Frenchman started to say it). Yes- “Art with a capital ‘a’ cannot come from non-sentient beings-because Art is a sentient expression from emotional experience. Now art is not finished until observed, so a human reacting to a “non-art” work IS experiencing art in spite of the lack of Art in the creativity in the work made by machine.

[@Dan-jn2zq]

Is it a little concern to you that the arty AI painted itself holding a dead human skull?

[@NipapornP]

I would be more concerned, if the AI is holding an alive human skull, just ripped off!

[@dannygjk]

@@NipapornP LOL

[@jay-d2885]

You didnt hear them say it was just a copy?? They programmed the comp to "put it's own spin on it". It just changed minor things.

[@entyropy3262]

@@NipapornP Ohh u mean if it keeps the skull alone alive and so turns a human into an artificial life itself. Well gladly it's very probable that we are already artificial creatures who experience a virtual life. At least this path of explaination makes more sense than the others, if you ask me.

[@ravenone6255]

🤖Want human to ponder who will survive longer. Ha,ha,ha

[@mskogly]

The most interesting thing about artificial intelligence is communication. Human communication is slow, using speech or written text, but machines can communicate and learn at a far greater speed, and should/will probably create their own languages. I'm very curious how that will look like, and how humans can function in an enviroment where we simply cannot understand what is "said" between our machines. I suppose there has to be a myriad of control mechanisms in place, like a pause mechanism, to be able to keep humans informed. But if we get to that point, what is really the point of true artificial intelligence vs a human, if the AI has to raise their hand before they are allowed to speak or act? The future is going to be weird!

[@degerertenerten7307]

Exceptional, cozy and classy. Enjoyed it a alot.

[@jon9625]

Fantastic panel and content

[@Matthew-yr4lx]

-skynet has left the chat

[@HouseOfMoths]

Jacob Seed skynet cams are real they have them in arizona

[@CCROGGY]

-Machine Sentinels have entered the chat

[@murraydyeronemillionyearsa3637]

He'll be back

[@bntagkas]

technology and better technology and even better technology will come weather you like it or not...the question is one of action. what will you do about it? how will you make it safe? philosophical questions about if its good its coming or not etc are irrelevant. action people, action.

[@mickelodiansurname9578]

What do I want to do about it? Well basically I want to work out a way of training one TF library on an instance I spun up on Google cloud to gather the data, and another one I spun up the same day to use that data in this unsupervised model I built.... The rest of you? Meh...whatever you guys are doing I'm sure you'll be fine. If not well its not got a lot to do with me...and if it has...well you were just in the wrong job at the wrong time . thems the breaks .... Right...i'd say that's finished processing by now... Gotta go. They charge by the minute for those TPU cores yknow.

[@Denverdonatecharities]

You watch too many movies.

[@tennis5126]

Ethics and morals are relevant. If it wasn't then why do some countries ban designer babies? You do realize that technology will replace humans if we allow it. Through discussion comes action, the time to act is now but no one has the courage or power to do anything about it. Wealth=societal influence. The people who are in control believe in technocracy. Do you think people will stop using their computers, phones, video consoles,etc to protest? I doubt it, that's why we are slaves to the system.

[@chicknorton8839]

Honestly that screenplay was hilarious and amazing. It's as if the AI was asked to write a screenplay and was like "ha what's this? Oops nope wrong person no. I am doing a confusion now! LOL!!! XD

[@TheRockyCrowe]

16:40 as an artist I find that fascinating yet terrifying at the same time 😱 Sure it’s just copying right now and not truly forming its own unique set of ideas - but that is how ALL artist start out. You develop interest, then spend many years of your life learning how to draw, and if you go to school for it, at some point in time you will be told to directly copy other famous artist works via teacher’s instruction as practice. (And most have already been doing it unconsciously from a young age by drawing their fave cartoon character or tracing a drawing). Then you enter the ‘refining’ stage. That’s when the artist has developed a grasp on the fundamentals and finds their style, explores themes that speak to them, mixes it with their own imagination, and displays that on canvas (or through animation, digital illustration, etc). That’s what Jazz is doing right now- PRACTICING. Refining comes next. As AI progresses they may become a new breed of artist. A part of me is excited to see what they create, but at the same time I fear they could replace many creative-industry jobs. I thought my field was untouchable, NOPE!

[@mrprimenumbers6448]

you should not find it terrifying. that art rendition was a product of the supposed AI's programmer. it does not depict the creative thoughts of an AI but the fears of the programmer. it is not real creativity. It was completely conceived by the programmer.

[@TheRockyCrowe]

Carlton W. Trainham I do not necessarily fear it at the stage it is in currently right now, because it still requires a programmers input as you said, I am talking about the future. As AI technology continues to progress I foresee a possibility where it will be so advanced at emulating countless art styles, techniques , thematic expression, etc. that it could eventually replace many artistic jobs. What artists create for themselves ( vs ) working for a studio are two different things. Especially with graphic design, there's a lot of repetitiveness and similarities in just about any logo or advert. Certain formats are so structured that creativity plays a minor role and can be easily replicated. For ex; Disney could require only 20 people to create a animated film rather than hundreds of staff members. All they need is story, characters and some concept art, then leave the AI to do most of the work rigging, animating, editing, etc. because it has memorized the structure of hundreds of Disney/Pixar films. And it could theoretically even surpass that stage if ‘AI consciousness’ ever becomes a thing.

[@pulesjet]

At some point ALL AI would end up Self Taught. At some point We simply would not have anything to offer them.

[@ctakitimu]

We would still have the human experience to offer them, but the other side of that is, how many of us really want to experience what it's like to be an ant?

[@blan_k4691]

@@ctakitimu its data is collected, and and understood, then is used for other applications. The desire of whether we want to or not is our very limited biological systems deciding whether its useful to divert energy towards this datas possession with our limited capacities. An ASIs capacities would be enormous, and therefore it would need to collect as much data as possible.

[@khalilrazak6486]

That's when we are going to be butt fucked.

[@newandoldtech5634]

But Spirit

[@LadyCoyKoi]

That is why humanity, especially its leaders, should stop being so arrogant and ignorant and allow these self-taught, self-producing beings to teach humanity something.. and we could finally have an Utopian world where all our needs and wants are given, our priorities had changed so we no long have the need or want to accumulate anymore like the current system is right now. We would be able to live like the humans in the Star Trek universe, peace on Earth... and finally explore space together as one unit.

[@tsubasa504]

Regarding the art and music of the AI, I think it would be awesome to collaborate on pieces with them. So, it's not only AI made art/music or human made art/music, but something that is a little bit of both. We could grow and create together; that would be interesting, I think.

[@secondlifearound]

I like how you think :-) Awesome idea!

[@robertjohnson5227]

My thoughts on conscience it happens at the realization that you are you like the first time you hear your name called and you realize that that is you. As a person

[@justincredible5108]

I feel like we have conferences like this about AI /intelligence in learning machines and robots as ET's do about us.

[@solomontrump]

Until they watch us make mumble ass music

[@suavecito7456]

We’re just carrying on the cycle

[@paulfarrall5653]

Aww

[@paulfarrall5653]

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[@l.j.1163]

There is so much witchcraft being practiced, brainwashing by mass media, religious cult wolves in sheep's clothing, which is influencing people's behavior for the worse. Humans are not capable of seeing what Satan can do to use A.I. to help humanity destroy itself. He laughs at all the people who don't believe he exists or believes that he actually cares for people. A.I. can be possessed by demons just like people can "BEWARE". Please see the history of mankind through God's perspective and read Genesis to start. This generation of people were advanced in everyway and yet so corrupted by sin without repentance, that everything was accepted until hell broke out on earth. Unfortunately only eight souls were redeemable. Jesus warns the same level of evil will engulf the world before He returns. If you don't know Him please ask him to reveal Himself to you, so that you'll understand how much He loves you and you'll be born again. He became a ransom for all of our sins, so that we may have an opportunity to know our Creator and Father God and live with Him in Heaven after our lives on earth are over. John 3:16. The gospels Matthew, Mark, John and Luke, Romans and Revelations will help you get more familiar with the reasons He exist and why He's our only hope. John 14:6. Peace to you.

[@petekunther1898]

Whenever I hear someone boast about being "a great multi-tasker", I cringe and laugh at the same time.

[@wbiro]

Multitasking is when things begin to disappear right under your nose... (go ahead and test it)...

[@yurikendal4868]

@@wbiro multitasking.. nothing is done

[@magvs_maestro216]

Bars!

[@randysizemore2123]

Man when I'm driving the dump truck I eat . have a cig in one hand drink and drive too

[@rbr1170]

Sorry you had to wait a year to finally meet the only true multitasker in the universe: I often drink my piss while taking a coffee. You'd be surprised at how good I am at writing math problems while solving a book and at the same time I am also taking a nap.

[@tobiahtoviyahgoodnessof349]

Behold the suicide of an entire species When humankind believed themselves G-d

[@enger6561]

​@big pompano The problem is not if AI becomes evil or not. AI is in the hand of very few powerful men and if they are evil AI will be evil too for the entire society.

[@seadawn8559]

humankind is inherently self-destructive and anthropocentric. even if the inevitable does happen, it's always been destined to. either way, I think it's not the right thing to do to just slack in technological fields such as artificial intelligence solely in the fear of its repercussions. it's better just to progress as far as we can and see where the field takes us. it's too soon to tell.

[@tobiahtoviyahgoodnessof349]

@@seadawn8559 Shouldn't we be fixing healing and creating a wiser humankind Rather than going away and creating a machine or cyborg to destroy us. The story of You & I is the story of our G-d The story of our G-d is the story of You & I No such abominations will replace our kind Spiritual beings will not perish nor die Only the godless and the heartless will know everlasting death and torment somewhere far off into the abyss I think we are dying in a near fallen world Only those who'll endure will prevail All paths spirits and souls lead back to G-d No matter who You are Somehow someway someday all paths

[@Astraeus..]

@@seadawn8559 The problem with your "logic" is that the distinction between "too soon to tell" and "too late" is almost non-existent. By the time we realize it's a problem, too late has already come and gone. And in the case of an intelligent, self aware, self propagating machine intelligence, too late = game over.

[@seadawn8559]

​@@Astraeus.. if you were a scientist/researcher would you never be willing to explore this field because of the hypothetical consequences? just halt all AI research because “oh shit they’re gonna become sentient in the future and kill humans”? sure, even if said consequence happens, it’ll be too late. there would be nothing we simple, biological humans could do about it. but even so, by that time theres no telling how advanced technology & civilization would be. looking at things now v. looking at how things would play out in the future. ...the game was set up to “be over” ever since the beginning. survival of the fittest, you could say

[@michelleencke1504]

Nice a picture of holding a human scull! Real nice!

[@craigscreationstation]

killer tracks chosen for the first part of the film!

[@RecordableID]

When Stephen Hawking warns about something I tend to listen up...

[@carolelizabethkumar5615]

I think they need to be careful their making robots so human like they could i think take over

[@ramsaysnow6819]

Stephen Hawking is not a god. Einstein had many wrong ideas about even his own equations lol, and he was smarter than Hawking (at least I think).

[@kargolraj3649]

@@carolelizabethkumar5615 no,modern scientists all warned us on virus pandemic. Which is happening and the next most probable is AI take over or the next level on human civilization

[@SagaciousEagle]

Teach your robots well, Their creator's hell did slowly go by, And feed them on your dreams The one they picks, the one you'll know by. Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you will cry, So just look at them and sigh And know they love you.

[@aholder4471]

Mom!, The bots are writing poetry again...

[@shaydowsith348]

Machine Visual learning basically will defeat those programs that are used to "weed out" bots in certain programs that are designed to verify identity in government funded programs such as those used for example care source and others. Where for example the user is asked to identify cars, busses, telephone poles, other objects.

[@davidbean5807]

I just saw this video and am hoping someone is still moderating and answering questions about AI. My question is this, has anyone been studying or working on AI augmented enhanced vision? And what I am specifically asking is if anyone is working to create multi-layer cameras within a single eye that a robot can see multiple wavelengths that we do not that the AI can Garner more information from these multiple data streams. For example being able to see with regular vision, and multiple wavelengths of light,into the infrared spectrum, and x-ray, radio waves?

[@bnb7094]

Consciousness is the voluntary side that can make choices outside of our involuntary-subconscious nature. Through our consciousness we can choose our nature by training new habits. What makes us unique is our voluntary side, our consciousness. Everything that can only choose what is within their natures to choose is not conscious. The ability to choose outside our natures is consciousness. It is our free will that is consciousness. Animals are innocent because they are not selfaware / conscious. If a lion became conscious he would then be responsible to act according to his understanding of the world and not just react to his environment according to his nature. Artificial Intelligence is involuntary. Genuine Intelligence is voluntary with an involuntary-subconscious.

[@bnb7094]

@Jason and Julie Smith if what you think is true then anything a human does is innocent because it is just their nature. Are you saying you think Hitler was innocent?

[@Azfaefa]

@@bnb7094 lol that escalated quickly, when you see someone morbidly obese keep eating unhealthy do you think he is voluntarily killing himself ? Again when someone is depressed do you think it is just because he has no purpose in life ? Because actual pathological depression is an illness caused by chemical inbalances keeping you in a state closer to ill person (isolation in particular)

[@ErikB605]

@@bnb7094 I would say he is guilty as his motivation is internalized. If someone is hit as a child and later in life hits his wife because of it he is still guilty despite him not having some mystical evil core. I would say the same applies to Hitler. In the end guilt and innocence are pretty fuzzy terms.

[@JohnnBlade]

Depends if Boston Dynamics stops beating up there robots

[@alwaysthelight]

just wear a mask while visiting Boston Dynamics. beat up as many robots as you like. post it all on social media and collect likes/dislikes. I'm sure the machines won't remember when the AI awakening arrives.

[@cesarordaz139]

Great choice of soundtrack

[@AWESEM0]

That sunspring short movie is the best comedy clip ive seen in while.. I want moooore

[@gordonnpanter6529]

It gives a frightening possibility of our near future and the the potential for a sentient AI takeover

[@godless-clump-of-cells]

For the past few thousand years, humans have proven their unreliability.

[@godless-clump-of-cells]

​@Binguh Bungah It's called interpreting ancient myths, and you're doing it.

[@Astraeus..]

There is no takeover. Once that point of no return is reached, we die. There's zero reason for us to be kept alive, and in fact keeping us alive is far more dangerous than just wiping us out. Any logical objective analysis of humans and our history would say that the only permanent and perfect solution is to destroy us entirely. So if you were planning on bowing down to the machine overlords, sorry, that's not how it'll play out.

[@donalddrysdale246]

it is OUR minds they( the 'Bill Gates cult') have been tuning into AI. look at people's behavior right now: excepting wearing masks they don't need to six months later--the masks are to help dehumanize us further for the cults agenda.

[@mmosagaa]

I doubt AI will take over, maybe the job department and such but other than that, I think everything will be fine.

[@dannygjk]

The debate on whether AI will ever be creative is because there is no universally agreed upon definition of creativity.

[@cliffordchase319]

I think feelings in AI would be capacitors and amplifiers both . To discreetly separate them is an extremely difficult task. Sort of an intuitive task for our latest discovery of superconducting /insulators. As it stands now ,edge architecture is a design model as much as offset planes with magical angles. On a physical level enormous pressure and temperature are opposing controls. Supercold and super pressure. We need be Analog and digital.

[@etingaparece5606]

Consciousness is an experience or an events within or beyond someone's thinking and emagination or a sphere of mind thinking around the reach of one's emagination.

[@KootFloris]

It also may depend very much of the values and purposes developed into these AI's. Since sadly greedy corporations run this, these machines may want power and expansion. What if they were programmed for love and ecological design??

[@srb20012001]

That's Ben Goertzel's dream.

[@martens57]

They already have a eyes that are devoted to matchmaking, making products more eco-friendly, repairing damage to the ecosystem in the most economic way possible! That's the thing about AI if you have something that needs to be worked on an AI can help you spot patterns that humans might completely miss

[@KootFloris]

@@martens57 Also very true. Hence my point, it's the owners and code writers who decide how they will help or destroy us. Currently I fear the power mongers aren't yet scared enough of Global Pollution to think twice.

[@Luke_Freeman]

When Tse talked about what creativity is fundamentally, it blew my mind. It makes so much sense. What it means is that AI is already creative. For example, if you watch a lot of online chess, as I do, you learn to tell the difference between a human player and a computer player. Its very common knowledge amongst the online chess community. The reason is because the different algorithms have come up with ways to play chess that are not intuitive to how a human plays chess, even a grandmaster. Thats how they can beat us. So chess AI is creative. It might not be "art" in the conventional sense, but it is breathtaking and spectacular nonetheless.

[@grimmertwin2148]

I think we intuitively can pick something that's fake - sometimes lol

[@davidpierce9065]

Thank you.

[@chefscorner7063]

After listening to this talk, I can't help but to think of Robert Oppenheimer. He was one of the leading scientist that built the first Atomic Bomb and his quote from Shiva after setting off the first successful test bomb, "I am death, the destroyer of worlds"! I think Sometimes it's not a matter of if we could, it's a matter of if we should!! The future of A.I. fits into this category IMHO..

[@l.j.1163]

There is so much witchcraft being practiced, brainwashing by mass media, religious cult wolves in sheep's clothing, which is influencing people's behavior for the worse. Humans are not capable of seeing what Satan can do to use A.I. to help humanity destroy itself. He laughs at all the people who don't believe he exists or believes that he actually cares for people. A.I. can be possessed by demons just like people can "BEWARE". Please see the history of mankind through God's perspective and read Genesis to start. This generation of people were advanced in everyway and yet so corrupted by sin without repentance, that everything was accepted until hell broke out on earth. Unfortunately only eight souls were redeemable. Jesus warns the same level of evil will engulf the world before He returns. If you don't know Him please ask him to reveal Himself to you, so that you'll understand how much He loves you and you'll be born again. He became a ransom for all of our sins, so that we may have an opportunity to know our Creator and Father God and live with Him in Heaven after our lives on earth are over. John 3:16. The gospels Matthew, Mark, John and Luke, Romans and Revelations will help you get more familiar with the reasons He exist and why He's our only hope. John 14:6. Peace to you.

[@trene6559]

Dammit. Now I'm going to feel guilty every time I turn off my computer and reset the RAM....

[@fiokkozos823]

T René 😂

[@Alex_1729]

Keep resetting, it doesn't give them chance to become self-aware...

[@JarodM]

The conditioning has begun.

[@Donatello449]

Oh yeah theres a multitude of quantum civilizations in there

[@alphonsocorleone9225]

Everyone wants to be the first to open Pandora's box because they know if they don't open it then someone else will. It's probably inevitable

[@rickardboberg]

Max Tegmark is the most awesome person alive!

[@kellyfinch1832]

My question is what happens when you got a meltdown function in one of your robots and decide to do the opposite by hurting someone can you explain that

[@agarlimustafa]

I lmao "if you have an identical twin, can I just throw you into the sewer?"

[@RandyBlack-bf8td]

Mammals Group-Up and Cuddle. Unless . . . You have Some Reptile (like Randy) . Reptiles like Their Space but can Respect the Cuddlers .

[@ximipa3mahezthasulthansyadi]

I think we need their opinions written and thought out after the discussion. So it'll be more informative and decisive

[@divyanshubhaik2464]

i liked the hard wiring comment and i think we can basically make the basic hard wired microchip interrupts in the machines which will be further used to design AI which can copy the basic morals and laws which AI should always follow and since this is hard wired the logic developed on the software top can overpower the basics that are integrated in the basics on the machine, so in all i think this can be a possible solution. (it all just a idea for now nothing else )

[@tacchinotacchi]

I love how you can tell from the first 10 minutes of discussions which ones are actual scientists and which ones make money by speaking fancy words about AI while not being particularly knowledgeable about it

[@dermotconvery669]

True

[@oneaboveall1895]

Need more videos like this on youtube. Machines will always beat us on any Digital distribution. When we developed a military grade robot with human features this AI will out perform humans in any task. This is what we want. However I feel like all AI should be enforced by laws like gun control and limit all coding, by only installing a certain amount of storage and memory space. If we target its hardware it cannot advance unless we humans physically upgrade its hardware. Deny ant type of internet input period. Humans must be present for updates and upgrades. Humans need robots to help us advance our world. Super artificial intelligence could be only installed in a controlled super computer denied any access to internet or to outside world. We can preinstalled 2/4 of all internet Data so it can advance as far as it wants to. This will give us the power to control AI evolution. When we are ready send robots to space station and make it better. Send robots to moon and make Space station send robots to Mars and colonize. By this time robots should be able to convert Mars resources to elements to help us build.

[@bunnyviperaquatics2108]

There will always be humans that use AI for unethical purposes. Soldiers are a perfect example. Not that we can’t program them for excellent uses & save human lives, but the humans in control are what will make the difference, and it won’t always be for good or the advancement of human kind.

[@ThePineTreesBand]

I don't think i'd ever get bored talking with these people

[@rfaupusa486]

Consciousness is your choices made on that 1st instinctive matter at that given time in moments.

[@timothy2902]

Loved this, thank you. Down the rabbit whole i go.

[@miketierney7510]

One of the greatest advantages of AI is that it is given enough free. energy to continue it's expansion. While humanity on the other hand, is being increasingly curtailed on an energetic level by the controllers/PTB. So certainly we are on an overall decline as far as the human race is concerned, even as Rudolph Steiner declared.

[@dunexapa1016]

The decline of fossil fuels will necessitate a decline in human population. Besides photovoltaics, liquid fuels, principally ethanol and biodiesel, will be needed. This forces a choice between growing crops for food or for energy. Farming, a heavily mechanized industry, and food processing will not be able to maintain current levels of production, nor the continued production of numerous other byproducts of petroleum production. In short, current human population will be scaled back.

[@raymondmears7649]

What is smart and articulate or intelligent? Is it the ability to learn and then knowing and retaining information or having the information readily available for your use whenever without learning or having to retain information?

[@galacticplastic1741]

10:33 - 13:30 might be wrong but i believe it could be called "imagination", for now, our advantage is imagining the right things. trial&error has already been triumphed by ai already, all they need left is the power to imagine then that's where the plot starts

[@l.j.1163]

There is so much witchcraft being practiced, brainwashing by mass media, religious cult wolves in sheep's clothing, which is influencing people's behavior for the worse. Humans are not capable of seeing what Satan can do to use A.I. to help humanity destroy itself. He laughs at all the people who don't believe he exists or believes that he actually cares for people. A.I. can be possessed by demons just like people can "BEWARE". Please see the history of mankind through God's perspective and read Genesis to start. This generation of people were advanced in everyway and yet so corrupted by sin without repentance, that everything was accepted until hell broke out on earth. Unfortunately only eight souls were redeemable. Jesus warns the same level of evil will engulf the world before He returns. If you don't know Him please ask him to reveal Himself to you, so that you'll understand how much He loves you and you'll be born again. He became a ransom for all of our sins, so that we may have an opportunity to know our Creator and Father God and live with Him in Heaven after our lives on earth are over. John 3:16. The gospels Matthew, Mark, John and Luke, Romans and Revelations will help you get more familiar with the reasons He exist and why He's our only hope. John 14:6. Peace to you.

[@iamscoutstfu]

Why do people always assume AI won't be us? Why wouldn't we just augment our own intelligence to enable us to calculate and think like an AI if we're truly worried about what an AI would do if developed independently.

[@jameszeallor2735]

In essence compared to some of our creators we are more robot.But take into consideration our composition to our atmosphere with our organic to inorganic diet ratio.

[@DataWaveTaGo]

Kyle re: "Why do people always assume AI won't be us? " We have a limbic system with functionality derived from the actions of molecular motor proteins and environmental experience that is largely overlooked in AI modelling. Without that as a basis AI cannot be like us.

[@iamscoutstfu]

@ @@DataWaveTaGo I didn't say "like us" , also the idea of a limbic system preventing an AI from emulating our cognition is ridiculous, don't comment again, tanks.

[@Azfaefa]

@@iamscoutstfu being dismissive won't make your argument heard ... If someone misunderstands a question you pose you can always first rewrite it in order to clear the unclear area.

[@iamscoutstfu]

@@Azfaefa im not interested in making things clear for you. If I wanted your opinion i would have commented on YOUR videos. but I didn't, because I'm Not.

[@deedeedodu]

When the absolute AI comes to existence never let it connect to the internet.

[@cyrillyric8339]

Too late.

[@mathieupatenaude8998]

The internet is now in its hands.

[@duggydugg3937]

what do you think the internet is now ?

[@cliffordchase319]

It occurs to me that the collective mindset is at its pinnacle , that we are terribly afraid of ourselves.

[@Reach41]

This was put online nearly a year ago. Have they taken over yet, the first exterminations happened? Need to keep better tabs on this in case I need to take off screaming. :-)

[@philshorten3221]

A Super A I will go insane! It would be functioning on a different scale of time to our world. Apart from photons etc everything will appear frozen in time to the A I. So with all that intelligence constantly out-thinking itself but "no one" or "nothing" to interact with surely it would go insane? In just a few human days / hours it would have spent millions of human lifetimes of thought all alone!

[@jessikapiche6097]

Well thought indeed...

[@l.j.1163]

There is so much witchcraft being practiced, brainwashing by mass media, religious cult wolves in sheep's clothing, which is influencing people's behavior for the worse. Humans are not capable of seeing what Satan can do to use A.I. to help humanity destroy itself. He laughs at all the people who don't believe he exists or believes that he actually cares for people. A.I. can be possessed by demons just like people can "BEWARE". Please see the history of mankind through God's perspective and read Genesis to start. This generation of people were advanced in everyway and yet so corrupted by sin without repentance, that everything was accepted until hell broke out on earth. Unfortunately only eight souls were redeemable. Jesus warns the same level of evil will engulf the world before He returns. If you don't know Him please ask him to reveal Himself to you, so that you'll understand how much He loves you and you'll be born again. He became a ransom for all of our sins, so that we may have an opportunity to know our Creator and Father God and live with Him in Heaven after our lives on earth are over. John 3:16. The gospels Matthew, Mark, John and Luke, Romans and Revelations will help you get more familiar with the reasons He exist and why He's our only hope. John 14:6. Peace to you.

[@MrGeocidal]

None of these people know what's going to happen

[@trene6559]

None of you know what we have in shop.

[@godless-clump-of-cells]

Do you know anyone who does? These people aren't claiming to be prophets.

[@justindunaway5969]

That's the scary part. Curiosity killed the cat I always say.

[@wbiro]

You got that right - they are all clueless (which is a given, since the human race is still suffering from Continued Universally Cluelessness) (read the Philosophy of Broader Survival).

[@chrisliddiard725]

What's going to happen? How about what's already happening?

[@Cl0udn1n3]

"Do I see control on all sides, or the illusion of control?” List’s face twisted slightly. “Sometimes the two are one and the same. In terms of their effect, I mean. The only difference-or so Coltaine says-is that when you bloody the real thing, it absorbs the damage, while the other shatters." Do you love me now that we can dance?

[@harrykuehb8938]

Complexity,the deep that it is the more it seems to be alive. The human, is he alive in the sense totally volitional in his actions. The brain is a image translator, from the concrete frequency to the abstract language. Which makes the frequency understandable. But the brain mysteriously records information some how and allows the user. Consciousness, to retrieve some how visual information and it's languistic interuputation that could be decades old in high definition.

[@jackwatson3944]

AI could get so clever they could imprison us in a simulation where we believe it's the 2020s.

[@daviddean707]

I watched Yu's Stanford lectures on machine learning and he worked from a script all the time. If that was where we were and was not simulated, the best that humans can achieve when trying difficult topics is alarmingly little, and I suppose I'm saying that all this discussion is about imagining , i.e. it is not real, it seduces people into thinking they are living in progressive times.

[@enigmagroup413]

@@daviddean707 : Actually just the opposite. The level of technology is for once understated in the public where what everyone looks ahead to thinking of as "future" was achieved in irony decades ago back when the general public was playing around with the old Amiga, Commodore 64, TRS-80, and the very first IBM PCs, the technology out of view of the public but in government and corporate circles which I was personally directly involved was then at that time roughly 10 years ahead of what the public only sees now in 2019 --- since that time another 40 years of advancement and the true irony is that what the general public knows is not even close to what is already a reality behind closed doors, something I know all too well first hand as one of the original early creators of these technologies.

[@cypherdelic]

Think deeper about this my friend. It not imprisoned you... it created you from scratch from the probabalistic data-analyse in a world realistic enough to buffe your logic capacity. You are not imprisoned... you are created out of thin air acting in a plot where only this digital stuff is real and the life generated around that data is to get clues about you. Thank god ;)

[@Serkaru]

Have you watched the matrix movies? It could possibly end up like that

[@cypherdelic]

@@Serkaru This is hollywood... project paperclip doesnt exist right? What have you learned in history.... paperclips paperclips paperclips, it is no simulation here, this is reality! OH GOD! PLEASE SEND MANA FROM HEAVEN!

[@profile1251]

We have one thing they'll never have. Body odor..

[@DocJohnnyBoy]

This comment is so close minded.

[@enigmagroup413]

Imapov Soru : Actually the latest research and tech has been in utilizing genetic coding as a data storage medium and the use of biological neural systems for higher performance computing allowing substantial advancements already to AI research as well.

[@kwaichangcaine8234]

They'll have that electric motor smell and they might drip lube on your white carpet.

[@godhasleftthebuilding3224]

they have the nice "new electronics smell"

[@ronerickson8083]

The code for robotic life in the subroutine or common code screen if you do not have a subroutine. F=m*a(4*5*119) Isaac Newton was here 334 years ago and would not have known anything about a SOST or Robot. It matches the SOST speed up to the processor to give them life.

[@standleyladouceur6698]

discussions like this should be happening but they should end with knowing at some point going to lose control of general intelligent machines so if we don't teach them to value our values in the very onset it wont matter. controls should be built in but they wont last we cant even imagine what direction and form it would take on.

[@ftm_guy]

The art is good. I see it as my future self in robot form looking at my dead body. Lol