Will the 2030 Petrol and Diesel ban be moved to 2035 in the UK?

[@lt4203]

It’s all just a trap! All of it

[@fortyfour1654]

Admiral Akbar agrees!

[@billcarson9565]

@@fortyfour1654 watch the "Geordie" version of it, hilarious!

[@lt4203]

@@fortyfour1654 🤣🤣🤣

[@christopher9727]

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[@averagepal572]

It's all a big scam. They know they've pushed things too quickly so are taking their foot off the accelerator.

[@jeffsparey9585]

👍👍👍👍

[@clarepartrick1066]

As far as I am concerned they shouldn’t ban petrol and diesel cars is ludicrous.

[@scaryfakevirus]

The wheels are falling off big time. Couldn't be sooner.

[@COIcultist]

Has knowing they are wrong ever stopped a politician from pursuing a given policy?

[@COIcultist]

@@FullFact548 If you want to follow the money, look at carbon trading. Legalised fraud that is reducing food security by planting forests on farmland.

[@rich1780-u1j]

As the deadline approaches a statement along the lines of “we don’t need to ban petrol and diesel car sales now as they have far lower emissions than the once did”

[@MeYou-yz2yz]

@commentsAlwaysDeletedbyYT There won't be enough glorified milk floats to go round anyway. They can only produce 10 percent of the cars we now have. They don't want us in electric cars even. They want us on foot.

[@lt4203]

@@marklovescars853😂😂😂

[@davearmstrong2296]

I don't think you are far wrong there. Probably with a note to blame it on the car industry by saying they the technology required is not available yet, but we thought it would be.

[@kennethhawley1063]

I am sure Energy Security Day will compensate for 40 years of total incompetence and neglect.

[@offgrid7837]

If you want to be eco friendly build simple, well made diesel cars that last a minimum of 25 years with as few electronics as possible. If you want to ban something to improve the world start with banning anyone that has ever been near the WEF.

[@daddymulk]

Why Diesel when Honda made 50mpg+ Petrol cars in 80s 90s

[@offgrid7837]

@@daddymulk Because properly built diesels last longer than petrol.

[@FutureProofPerformance]

Please don't build diesels, the emissions are terrible and I say that as a research engineer who has performed emissions testing on diesels. A good spark ignition engine if done right is much better and can easily out last a diesel due to the lower internal stresses if it has been designed with long lifespan as a primary requirement.

[@toninocars]

Good idea but not diesel Synthetic petrol yes

[@offgrid7837]

@@toninocars Unfortunately synthetic petrol is extremely energy intensive to make and therefore neither cheap nor green. All the talk of these new fuels is pie in the sky just like hydrogen.

[@ukqwerty999]

I don't know who came up with the idea of every manufacturer going electric in such a short period, but it was ludicrus. 2040 if you're lucky, JCB are looking at hydrogen so multi fuels will hopefully happen.

[@thisisnumber0]

It was the World Economic Forum/United Nations Agenda for Sustainable Development 2030 directing Boris Johnson.

[@brianlopez8855]

I blame the stupid Millennials.

[@bentullett6068]

JCB sales are going to be epic. They make great commuting vehicles and will easily clear the LTN barricades and muppets trying to stop you driving into them.

[@garyneedham1282]

All JCB plant and vehicles are now hydrogen powered. They make 200 hydrogen engines per day. Toyota have developed their corolla engine to run on hydrogen and are race testing at the moment.

[@bentullett6068]

@@garyneedham1282 My brother told me that Toyota BTCC team will be fitting their own engines to the cars this year rather than using the sold to everyone who isn't a manufacturer BTCC spec engine. I bet there will be a test with the hydrogen combustion engine at some point. Also remember it was a Toyota model that was running the Hybrid systems in 2021 to test them ready for 2022 season.

[@carolineash1104]

Any body who has a brain cell still working knew this would happen 😊

[@trevormansfield6740]

It’s obvious isn’t it

[@Dunkelzeitgeist]

Too right

[@carlwalker1350]

Problem is people don't have a brain

[@mooseyman74]

Not many then

[@Slash1066]

The EV bubble has burst now, once they started taxing them and the charging got expensive there was literally no point in having one.

[@Brian-om2hh]

Says the man who knows nothing at all about EV's or charging them, because he's never actually owned one..... What do you mean *once* they started taxing them? The electricity used to charge electric cars has always been taxed. And do you *actually* know how much it costs to charge an EV at home? I'll tell you shall I? It costs me around £7 for a full charge, which does me about 7 or 8 days. I can cover 1000 miles for £40.

[@Slash1066]

@@Brian-om2hh I do have a PHEV actually, they are now planning to road tax them and charging away from home is next to impossible, I just put petrol in it now, easier

[@raypilgrim6905]

Sounds like Brian is a bit narked because he's bought himself a expensive bag of shit.

[@reececollison5101]

@@FullFact548 yes but why have EV residual values collapsed? Because the trade is driven mainly by companies getting tax breaks on them, not private customers. So as they hit the used market at 3yo, no one wants to touch them with a barge pole! If the demand was there used prices would still be high. And fewer EVs have been sold up to now this year than the same point last year. And I expect those numbers to collapse when the tax breaks for companies on EVs end in a few years.

[@voodoocars2134]

There is definitely a way to make / allow petrol engines to achieve a lot more mpg than the ones being sold. Electric cars is not the way forward. I’m keeping my old school 4.6 litre V8 to use daily 👍

[@billcarson9565]

same here 2.5L straight 6 not going anywhere

[@billcarson9565]

@@FullFact548 plenty of oil in the ground globally, all these treehuggers want electric cars, and wont be able to charge them, the gov take about £1 from fuel tax, what do you think they will do when everyone is off ICE cars and onto electric, that tax hole will have to be filled

[@bentullett6068]

A few years ago in the news Geely purchased Renaults engine development department because Renault said they didn't require it because they were going to go electric. Also a JCB would be a great commute and work vehicle for everyone especially the new hydrogen ones. These are great for quite literally clearing LTN zones and easy to park at any car charging point car park. Also great for ULEZ zones as accidental camera removal could occur.

[@jlrguy2702]

I like this one 😂

[@bentullett6068]

@FullFact yes they do but why have they purchased a internal combustion engine department. The Chinese are cunning and they are waiting for the Western car manufacturers to fail with this EV plan and they will most likely emerge these new internal combustion engine to the world as soon as they have destroyed everyone else's ability to manufacture engines. There is a reason why the likes of Toyota are holding off going full electric they know something will give in the EV market if manufacturers go fully EV committed due to government rules and agenda's.

[@IanNiblett]

I can only assume Energy Security Day is the day in the year that we would run out of energy if we only use renewable sources.

[@brianlopez8855]

@@FullFact548 where do we store all this free energy all ?

[@COIcultist]

@@FullFact548 To run wind farms guarantees the use of gas powered generating plant. Nuclear has to be used as a base generator to make it economic. Wind power needs a virtually instantaneous stop and start backup. Gas generating plant is the only backup that can do that. So in effect, wind farms guarantee the use of gas generation plant. Redundant capacity has a cost that you can bet isn't being apportioned to the cost of wind farms at the moment, because it's not “Green” to associate the two interdependent costs.

[@harrisonhealey1679]

ICE cars have to be an option after 2030 because they are just the only option for some people. Imagine the millions who live without car parking outside their home that rely on car to get them places, they’d never be able to find the time to sit at a charging station and by the time all cars are to be electric can you imagine the queues to the charging stations!!

[@brianlopez8855]

Yeah well the Plebs will not need to travel. They will live in their crap houses and receive Government Rations and NOT go anywhere.

[@bentullett6068]

Buy a JCB quicker refueling with the hydrogen ones. Just set up a building company to avoid suspicion of why you purchased it. Also great for driving through LTN zones and I literally mean driving through.

[@thisisnumber0]

You don't get it, the end game is NO cars. World Economic Forum/United Nations Agenda for Sustainable Development 2030, joint public enemy number one.

[@jimjones-bk2is]

They could always try being less reliant on their cars.

[@Brian-om2hh]

But these people don't have a petrol pump outside their homes, yet they run a petrol car! If everyone wanted to fill up with petrol at once, then the queues then would be awesome too, but in reality it just doesn't happen.

[@DAVEXR2007]

The delay is caused by a complete lack of interest from car buyers because they recognise that EV's are a scam !!!

[@Brian-om2hh]

Actually Dave, it's *you* who is being scammed. You just don't realise it. You pay around £6.40 for a gallon of petrol. As your car moves along the road, only around £2.20 pence worth of that gallon is actually powering the car, due to the efficiency of ICE only being around 25%. The other 75% (which you've happily paid for) is wasted as friction and heat..... But hey, if you're happy with that.... Just purely as a comparison, my Kia EV can get me 1000 miles for £40 if I charge at home.

[@DAVEXR2007]

@@Brian-om2hh Your numbers are grossly inaccurate. I don't think you'll be keeping that Kia EV for too long. I can almost hear it's battery pack degrading as I type. Pray it doesn't overheat & burst into flames.🔋💥🔥..You may manage 1000 mls for £40🤔...If you've got a week to waste 🕓😊

[@stuartodell2828]

If you charge at night it’s very cheap and you’re not waiting around and be honest I’ve see more petrol cars in flames than any other car

[@ClassicOilyMotors]

When I was a courier I was doing at least 100,000 miles a year, sometimes 500 miles a day or more. Long distance timed deliveries with just a 10 minute petrol stop. I was also a blood runner so had to have a full tank of fuel to make sure I got to the Hospital on time. I'm not sure how this will work with electric vans with a full payload. I hope they can get a van to do at least 800 miles to a charge.

[@brianlopez8855]

As long as the Elites get their daily dose of virgin blood on time, they won't care.

[@spice3767]

Mercedes Sprinter E has a HUGE range….approx 50 to 60 miles….rapid ac charging only takes 8 hrs…👍👍

[@djtaylorutube]

​@@spice3767 No that'll be AC charging not DC. Is that the one that the guy at Artisan Electrics uses? He does have a fun video of his van with 60 miles range, attempting London to Paris.

[@spice3767]

@@djtaylorutube thanks, my bad 👍

[@DigiDriftZone]

​@@djtaylorutube Wow, watching Artisan Electrics, I just thought of an idea, get a cheap electric van with a tiny battery, put a petrol generator in the back and some sound insulation and sorted, no ULEZ, no range anxiety, need to try that! Plus when the battery dies, it's a small cheap one unlike those £20k ones in the EVs with 200 mile ranges.

[@coolranch1660]

Yes, the deadline will keep being moved back farther and farther, as we get closer and closer.

[@mattylamb9194]

Maybe something akin to the smart meters deadline. All UK homes were supposed to have a smart electric meter by the year 2020

[@me-cu7ds]

I laugh at all those in the know who made the grand announcement in 2020 that we had 10 years to save the planet . Prince William , Saint Attenborough ( no surprise there, it's an annual thing) and loads of other "experts" and yet net zero is 2050.....a mere 20'years after the world's end.

[@trevormansfield6740]

Yep

[@bsimpson6204]

"deadline will keep being moved back farther and farther" Sounds like cli mate change predictions lol

[@alanjm1234]

Same as the end of the world due to climate change. Should have happened years ago according to Al Gore, but they keep rescheduling due to lack of reality.

[@alabinibop]

V8 minimum second car ownership should be mandatory and enforced by 2024.

[@charleslouden6600]

If we had a decent replacement we wouldn't have to ban petrol as we would automatically move ourselves.

[@davemargison2451]

In years to come when they look back at all this stupidity ! W T F were the decisions makers on !!!!!

[@redditchscroller7049]

The ban on fossil fuel powered vehicles in favour of electric powered vehicles by 2030 is totally unachievable due to the fact that the EV charging network will be nowhere near ready by then, and the power stations required to supply the electricity they need is now, and will be, totally inadequate to supply them!!

[@jimjones-bk2is]

It's unachievable because nobody is really interested in achieving it.

[@Brian-om2hh]

And yet the National Grid say there will be no issues. Still, what do the people who actually run the grid know about running the grid, eh?

[@redditchscroller7049]

@@Brian-om2hh Wait and see is all I would say.

[@fredharris3203]

It just shows that company profits matter far more than pollution, everyone refusing to buy electric cars would kill the whole thing dead. In fact it is the only thing that will stop it.

[@DUB-sential]

Interesting how all these car companies go along with it really isn't it, imagine the amount of money invested in product development and the amount of funds available to fight all the b.s but instead they develop these lithium death traps - kind of makes you wonder who owns them really.

[@mattylamb9194]

I noticed Citreon have commissioned a new petrol engined car within the past month or so. Whilst Porsche seem to be campaigning heavily for delay to the petrol and diesel ban. Some car manufacturers do seem to be rebelling now. Bring it on - I despise climate change zealots almost as much as Covid fanatics

[@DUB-sential]

@@FullFact548 33

[@Steve-gc5nt]

Toyota really hasn't gone along with it.

[@fillipfairfile801]

all owned by same hedgefunds, like everything else, thars how everything moved in lockstep so quickly

[@DUB-sential]

@@fillipfairfile801 exactly

[@charlesholder8009]

What about the ban on Gas boilers and forced sale of air-source heat pumps that won't work?

[@matta5160]

As a younger person I sometimes wonder if I would be better off moving abroad with the way this country is heading. If they are not dictating transport use or wanting to stalk peoples every move they are dictating what we eat and poisoning out childrens minds. The future doesn’t look good for us. What we must also remember is this is with a conservative government in power I shudder to think where we would be if a labor or other sickeningly liberal government was in force even more worrying for us up north as a independent Scotland would probably be 100x worse

[@jimjones-bk2is]

The reality seems to me to be that the goal is unachievable because no one (from government down) has any interest in achieving it. Not because it's impossible.

[@knockschool]

When will there be a ban on private jets and yacht's. ?

[@MrSonicAdvance]

If the politicians have to choose between "growth" and saving the planet, then clearly "growth" must prevail. The GDP graph must go up!

[@bonk352]

The planet replenishes itself continually - it effectively fixes itself naturally and adapts itself. The planet has natural cycles. Climate fanatics are the problem - spreading fear and gloom on a daily basis to the whole world and brainwashing those who believe them. They need to draw their horns in - and quickly. Thankfully, Germany have seen the rush to the 100% EV as a complete non starter, and indeed, 2030 is far too unrealistic, it's far too soon. The UK really needs to put its sensible hat on and follow Germany's EV decision to delay.

[@265Gunner]

Keep up the outstanding work buddy. My two 10+year old diesels are too young to die. Ones a Volvo and deserves to live forever and the vauxhall is his running mate. #carshavefeelingstoo #eletricarsaresoulless

[@jasonuren3479]

'Coal-powered petrol stations.' 😂👍

[@Goit_Goit]

Nuclear powered swimming pools.

[@peterlyall6789]

Bring back Pedal cars I used have one when I was a kid..😅😅

[@Brian-om2hh]

A fair point. The people who knock EV's, saying that the power to charge them comes from coal, clearly don't understand that oil refineries get their electricity from exactly the same source.......

[@carlarrowsmith]

@@Brian-om2hh Or that we use tiny amounts of coal now.

[@Yorkmedia1]

Hello Geoff you will find out that the ban on sales of new petrol and diesel cars will pushed back to 2060 this could happen because banning sale of new cars in 2030 would be unworkable we will be driving our fossil fuelled cars up to 2060 il stick with my classic mini great video Geoff

[@Brian-om2hh]

Absolute nonsense. Nobody will be extracting oil and refining it in 40 years time, because there probably won't be any left. And you can't just suddenly make some more. Once it's gone, it's gone for good. Shell just stated in their last business report that they plan to cut ( yes cut) the refining and production of petrol and diesel by 40% on the lead up to 2030. Your 2060 is simply wishful thinking. You cling to your dream if it makes you feel good, but the reality is that if you want to keep driving an ICE car, you'll be looking at synthetic or bio-fuels, and the cost that comes with them. That could be at least £5 per litre. You can buy Aspen synthetic petrol in Britain now. It's been on sale for decades. It costs around £30 a gallon......

[@WilliamStevens007]

I am going to see if I can get another 5 years out of my old 20year old Fiat Stilo jtd now just for the hell of it.

[@bentullett6068]

I am just going to buy cars I actually want no matter what the milage. Cheaper to repair a old internal combustion car as well.

[@barriewilliams4526]

The Italians will just love driving around in whisper quiet battery powered cars😂

[@bonk352]

It's called a non starter

[@ianstobie]

They'll fit a couple of electric loudspeakers, one inside, one out. Will play a variety of classic Italian supercar sounds, as you pootle around in your electric Fiat e500. Noise will reduce range by 10 percent, but it will be worth it! 🐎 🇮🇹 🐎

[@ianstobie]

@@FullFact548 Given their torque, one of the things EVs may be well suited for is Italian hill-top towns with their narrow winding streets. Just looked up the cars you mentioned. This may be the BEVs true niche!

[@cliveprocter3698]

It's not just moving back the ban to the original EU 2035 date but the EU aren't banning ICE cars now. There is now an exemption for e-fuel powered vehicles, i.e. those that run on synthetic petrol made from hydrogen (itself made from natural gas) using renewable electric. Therefore an e-fuel car will also run on old school petrol. Unless things change as usual the UK have goldplated and fast forwarded an EU regulation (banning ICE cars) whilst the rest of europe have figutred out a way to ignore it.

[@thedave7760]

They will just have to ban the particular fuel not the engine type but they won't do that either. I really wish someone would take the X rebellion people up on their solution and just stop oil if we do that there will be no more petrol or diesel and lets see how many people change their mind when amazon cant deliver their new mobile phone or deleveroo cant bring them their food because there isn't any food. It might wake a few of them up, there is a whole swathe of society out there who do not know how things are made and brought to the store.

[@ma40]

The wording of the proposed agreement is that there will be a software block to stop e-fuelled cars running on fossil fuel derived petrol and diesel. No idea whether that will actually work in practice 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@robertnichols6911]

Have you watched the first bus advertisement on KZbin. I normally mute the ads, but this time, I was making a cuppa. We're looking for more drivers as there's going to be fewer cars on the roads. The ev buses in Bristol can't use their heating as it limits the range & if they are going to be replacing all the buses, then the cost will be passed on to the customer. A day rider is currently £7.50 per day, cheaper if bought by the week. I'm not paying to sit in a cattle truck, a cattle truck that could explode & does Bristol City Council have a policy in place to deal with ev bus fires?

[@evelyngott2056]

So cruise ships and private jets are exempt, WTF

[@safirahmed]

Some major Western car manufacturers may have decided that volume car manufacturing isn't for them anymore.

[@bentullett6068]

Ford have just released their imagery of the Crapi (mispelt as that is what it should be called). Its another not a Mustang Mach E SUV thing. Its as desirable as Greta Thunberg.

[@bonk352]

It looks as if they're shooting themselves in the foot unless they're keeping hydrogen a secret for us at the moment as we're "encouraged" to buy electric cars. Of course, this is wrapped up in green ideology, engineered to try and put us all on a guilt trip, all to our expense .

[@safirahmed]

@@bentullett6068 The new Ford consumer vehicles all seem to have the same undesirable design style.

[@Brian-om2hh]

@@bentullett6068 To me, it looks like a Tesla copy.

[@djtaylorutube]

I found an interesting article yesterday on the EU's proposal for an infrastructure for hydrogen to have hydrogen filling stations in 474 cities and at I think it was 200km intervals along routes. See what backward facing Britain, prison Island comes up with...

[@ukmud6218]

Meanwhile in blighty the petrol pump will be banned due to looking too phallic, and the word pump will either be racist or homophobic

[@cashkitty3472]

Your backwards if you think that. Hydrogen still isn't safe enough yet. That's going to be at least another few years to happen

[@djtaylorutube]

@@FullFact548 trying again www.hydrogeninsight.com/policy/eu-nations-agree-to-install-hydrogen-fuelling-stations-in-all-major-cities-and-every-200km-along-core-routes/2-1-1426859

[@iareid8255]

David, a typical political action without the means to actually provide hydrogen for these stations. They will not allow hydrogen from methane regeneration (in itself a very wasteful process) but insist on green hydrogen which is even more wasteful to produce and given it will be using renewables to make it, green hydrogen will have a very low volume of production (relative to the volume required for the 'hydrogen revolution') and be very expensive. All pie in the sky.

[@PreNeanderthal]

We've already destroyed our steel industry because it causes 'too much pollution', and now we and our former customers buy steel from abroad (produced by countries who are not so squeamish about pumping out pollutants). We don't have a British car industry any more - the cars we do build, are the few 'crumbs' foreign car manufacturers allow us to produce in *their* factories. And now we're going to hand the initiative/car markets to the Chinese who don't give a fig about climate change. But at least, once we finally become a third world backwater, we will be able to puff out our chests and polish our halos while we queue for scraps, secure in the knowledge that we've done our bit to save the planet.

[@corf48]

Never get rid of petrol and diesel..... electric cars are a scam

[@jadeothen6057]

Yes they are. Pure blood here too mate.

[@Brian-om2hh]

We won't need to "get rid" of petrol and diesel. Oil will either run dry or become unviable to extract and refine.

[@corf48]

@@Brian-om2hh said it will run out in 1970s.......🤣 climate change is scam just to make money

[@jadeothen6057]

@@Brian-om2hh Someone's been brainwashed.

[@simonbroddle754]

If the UK hold with 2030 then there'll be loads of new petrol and diesel cars purchased, but they'll all be coming from France & Germany and they'll all be left hand drive! (except me, I'll still be in my old right hand drive diesel) 😂

[@brianlopez8855]

We will all be required to drive on the Right hand side.

[@bonk352]

​​@@brianlopez8855 It seems almost impossible at the moment but if the UK does somehow rejoin or accepts certain agreements in the future it could happen. 'Ice' cars could be the persuader/decider of restoring our position with the EU if EV cars prove to be a massive failure. Then it may be possible to call on the EU as backup, time will tell.

[@BasedScotsman1984]

@@bonk352 Keep dreaming we ain't re-joining. 🤣

[@Brian-om2hh]

Er, there won't. Because it will be illegal to register and insure an ICE car or van brought in from outside the UK after 2030. Nice try.

[@davidheller3998]

Hi Geoff would you consider doing some research and a vlog on the proposed 20 mph speed limits in Wales starting in September, all 30 mph signs are being replaced by 20mph signs. Many concerns on this; Slowing productivity down, higher emissions and lower mpg due to higher revving. Grumpy drivers which could result in more road rage, just to name a few!

[@timmaidens7483]

I reckon that would knock a few quid of the value of used EV's.

[@MrStevecrasher]

They were already in free fall before.

[@barry5138]

​@@MrStevecrasher beat me to it, nobody wants the money pits anyway

[@stuartwilliams3164]

A shortage of battery materials might be a factor!!

[@Brian-om2hh]

There is no shortage of battery materials, and never was. Lithium is the 25th most abundant element on earth. There are deposits of lithium in China, Russia, Australia, the US, Canada, Chile, Bolivia, Mexico, Scandinavia, and Cornwall in the UK. The US alone has around a dozen large ongoing lithium prospects, including one 115'000 acre site in Arkansas. The only shortage there is just now, is a battery *manufacturing* shortage, and that is being addressed.

[@Simon-390]

Love the jet plane idea , can I start off the crowdfunding with a £1 ? I know its only worth 25p but hey we all got to start somewhere 😉

[@colinrawlins3286]

I did a bit of research, when cars appeared on our roads petrol owners could only get petrol by the gallon from chemists, hotels and garages before petrol stations arrived 25 years later. Ev's sales started in around 2013 so based on that if we assume a sustainable infrastructure for EV's would be in place then we would be looking at around 2038. We all know how the government love to have endless meetings i can't see Ev's being a viable replacement for combustion engines based on the slow introduction of Charging points until 2050/2060. Maybe there is someone out there more optimistic than myself.

[@KayLa-sq7cv]

The amount of infustuture needed would be expecially more the for fuel. One pump can surve like 30 cars in a hour. How much will your one car charge in the same time.

[@bonk352]

There's obviously a lot more people now

[@bonk352]

Hydrogen or a credible clean fuel powering motor vehicles will likely be used 2050 onwards. Hybrid 'ice' cars will likely have diminished by this time. 100% Electric cars will still be unlikely to exceed 20 - 40% of overall total vehicle sales as late as around the mid century.

[@DigiDriftZone]

EVs sales started in 1890, they were very popular at one point, but the range wasn't enough.

[@ianstobie]

​@@DigiDriftZone Jay Leno's Garage covers some excellent examples of early electric vehicles on his KZbin channel. Some models were targeted especially at women, as they didn't need starting handles to start them, or filling with oily fuel. They were surprisingly well developed and refined (this was an era that also had electric trams), but expensive. This was the early 1900s, Edwardian era.

[@trevorpalin4731]

ive said the on one of you previous videos Geoff. i run a specialist used car parts dismantling business in shropshire. an acquaintance who’s a manager at the local jaguar land rover engine plant to me recently. “ production of both petrol and diesel engines has increased considerably” in addition to this another recent conversation with another manager at a local main dealer told me. “there are things that categorically have to be in place this year within the dealership and tbe car making factories to be able to meet the 2030 deadline. there are no signs presently that that is going to happen therefore the deadline will have to be moved”. as many people who know about car manufacturing, the production cycles are about 7 years. so the answer is, of course the deadline was will be moved….

[@DaleSteel]

This is just the start of it. There's no way that 2035 we'll be ready to have ev only. The best compromise is allowing hybrids with a realistic date of 2050. Even then I don't think we'd be ready

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Depends how many are wiped out in the great p4nd3mic of summer 2023

[@DaleSteel]

@@GeoffBuysCars god don't say that

[@Brian-om2hh]

You've clearly misunderstood the aim. The aim is NOT to have 100% EV's by 2035. It is to cease the sale of *new* ICE cars and vans. Those already in use can continue to be used. The complete transition to EV's could eventually take 15 to 20 years.

[@DaleSteel]

@Brian I haven't misunderstood anything. I know you can continue using petrol vehicles. However many will only drive new vehicles.

[@garyminion9610]

Prity sure it will get pushed back but if it doesn't i guess there will be a market to import a new car from southern island like we used to do.

[@Brian-om2hh]

There won't, because that gap is already plugged. It will not be legal to register new (or maybe even older) ICE cars brought in from outside the UK after 2030.

[@garyminion9610]

@@Brian-om2hh lol you think.

[@Ade2bee]

My brother moved from BMW as a car designer to a Chinese company NIO. From the work is carried out and his knowledge of the Chinese car market, they are not cheap or crap, they are pretty amazing and blow out of the water. The Chinese our way ahead of us with regards to car technology that we expect

[@butch8095]

Well said mate

[@tastytechaddictsmtb]

Exactly what I’ve seen too, their cars look to be vastly higher end than some of the rubbish I see here

[@Steve-gc5nt]

That may or may not be so but Customer Service is appalling. Plus we have no business buying from a country that is run by a government like that. It shocks me that anybody does.

[@billcarson9565]

made in china = fall to bits and send you up in flames when you turn it on.... who do you think this lot are getting these ideas from? commy china, social credit system, digital id, CBDC, its there right now in commy china and on its way to make you into a slave in a prison with no bars very soon here

[@davejohnson3474]

Not everything coming out of China is good quality most of it is shite.

[@Con-Brio]

Get yourself a good petrol car and keep it.

[@anthonyfisher1670]

We won't be here in 2035 to worry about it , tribulations start very soon !

[@DigiDriftZone]

I thought Britain was meant to sink into the sea this year, according to Greta's old deleted tweet anyway 😂

[@Olliebobalong]

There are plenty of videos circulating on social media of BYD cars in particular, including their recent flagship and Tesla model 3 competitor, and they are all catching fire, while being normally use, driven and charged in China. These fires which turn out to be explosions which are also very difficult to put out are insanely common. There’s also a video of a BYD SUV from six months ago, getting into a crash with a Tesla and a Mercedes also in China, and none of the airbags deployed in the BYD, where as the Merc and the teslas did.

[@Big_man746]

Finally someone else has mentioned cruise ships! What a monumental waste of fuel they are

[@neilturner6749]

Surely if there’s an exemption in place for vehicles able to run on e-fuels (which is all petrol driven vehicles as far as I’m aware) there’ll be no actual ban on ICE’s at all?

[@peterw4338]

The fuel is the problem not the engine. Make the fuel clean.

[@Brian-om2hh]

And with that, up goes the cost.... The problem *is* the engine. Even after 120 years of development, it still can't get past 30% efficiency......

[@peterw4338]

@@Brian-om2hh According to Volvo, modern petrol engines are at 35% efficiency and Diesel 50%

[@mrslowly9985]

This is a good example if market forces in action. People dont want product, manufacturers push back at government laws forcing them to abandon what actually sells, government realises that if people don't buy the product- then that industry will collapse and f over their economy, government repeales legislation.

[@johnpedelty3866]

A lot of people, manufacturers, owners and leasing companies are going to lose a lot of money on EV cars. The impossible targets of 2030 and 2035 will soon be abandoned.

[@bonk352]

Let's hope the 100% electric revolution scheme will be immediately quashed. What we need to be looking at are new vehicles after 2035 to be clean fuels/hybrid vehicles and hydrogen longer term emitting zero emissions overall. Electric vehicles should remain a niech product for very short journeys.

[@Brian-om2hh]

Leasing companies don't lose money on cars, because they factor in depreciation costs into the monthly leasing payments. They've been doing it for years, and are actually quite good at it...... And the Government have already announced that the UK's 2030 ban will remain, despite the EU's decision.

[@johnpedelty3866]

Leasing deals are to a large extent based on residual value at the end of the lease. My friends in the motor trade tell me ex lease EVs are now turning up at the major auctions and struggling to sell. The usual trade buyers are very wary of them. As these cars are not making anything like the expected residual, this must be reflected in future leasing prices

[@Simon-390]

Geoff , is it worth trying to get an interview with Lord Bamford of JCB to talk about hydrogen ? He seems to have his finger on the pulse .

[@Simon-390]

@@FullFact548 Well that’s your opinion, I am doing fine .

[@Simon-390]

@@FullFact548 No , I work and just do my best . Great Britain could be a lot better if people had the right mindset and just tried to be more positive than moaning and talking it down . JCB is a Great British company on a worldwide stage , why would they not want to have solutions to problems and stick two fingers up at the system and get on ?

[@Simon-390]

@@FullFact548 To blame everything that is happening on Brexit is in my opinion wrong . When we are in a world where the end of the petro dollar is almost upon us and the UK is in it up to our necks along with the USA and the EU is full to the brim with self serving crooks I think Brexit was a chance (as small as that is) to say “no more” we can do things our way . The sad thing is we are not out and we are not in and getting punished anyway , I wonder why ? I was asking Geoff about Lord Bamford and hydrogen as a mechanic and lorry driver for 35 years I have a genuine interest . I fail to see how I sparked a full on Brexit chat with that question .

[@richardlytton]

JCB have built a large hydrogen engine, which is similar to a petrol engine. They've put it a lorry, to test the idea, and it's running, with a manual gearbox. I have seen what I hope will be the future, if petrol sales must end.

[@ianstobie]

Yes, worth watching recent Harry's Garage video on the topic kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKnXqY2PaZqFg68

[@louloubarneymcgroo]

Why the hell should we take the hit for the all other countries who don’t care!! This actually angers me and I’m absolutely fed up with it 😡

[@brianlopez8855]

Having just planted over 6000 trees on my own land. I will now be driving my heavy diesel vehicles, splurging carbon and particulates as needed.

[@richard1342]

UK Gov needs to abandon plans to ban ICE cars in 2030 - plain stupid idea and totally unrealistic.

[@Brian-om2hh]

The ban isn't on ICE cars in 2030. It a ban on the sale of *new* ICE cars and vans after 2030. Those already in use will be unaffected by the ban.....

[@12alocin]

How long ago was it that the scientists said that modern diesel cars were clean and good for the environment?

[@Brian-om2hh]

But the evidence (as presented then) has since been found to be flawed, hence the change....

[@12alocin]

@@Brian-om2hh What do you think the flaws will be in the years to come concerning mountains of batteries?

[@BigALBoomer]

Imagine thinking vehicle sales will be banned by 2030 😅

[@tonyhodgkinson4586]

When will the grownups be back in control of Parliament?

[@-A-lm5xb]

Anybody see the ITN news tonight? The apocalyptic view of New York covered in an deep orange haze at 1:15 pm. (US time)? This, apparently, is from the smoke from the Canadian wildfires, carried by smoke to New York. Looked really bad. Except that I looked at the EarthCam LIVE VIEW from Brooklyn Bridge less than an hour later and it was perfectly normal - a little hazy but just a normal, blue, summer's day. So how did something so bad clear up in under an hour? Odd that, no?

[@alanjm1234]

Take the wings off Lear jets and use as buses. Great idea!

[@woden20]

People are waking up too fast and these greedy buggers have no reverse gear. Rope sales up.

[@19bob53]

How many parking metres will you take up parking your Cruise Ship in central London. Give Mr Khan't a head ache.

[@0skar9193]

I forecast a typical UK government u-turn on this policy.

[@billcarson9565]

not gunna happen, schwabby has his hand far up the backsides of his wef puppet stooges who are all in power and more of them coming

[@Sean_S1000]

What I don't understand, who would want to buy a car brand new that will drop by an extreme amount of value in 2030. E fuels are currently really expensive and if they do not manage to get it down to reasonable prices then no one will buy it. EV's require a massive boost to the amount and reliability of chargers before they can meet people's needs. Amazing that cruise ships are allowed to run as they cause 12,000 cars worth of population per day.

[@stuartburns8657]

I think yes, although it's not a shift as such, more a concession to C02 free fuel, not that they exist in any notable manufacturing form or volume

[@Lot76CARS]

The Chinese have a huge number of EV manufacturers and they MUST export to survive. Export gives them even more scale and allows them to price under traditional manufacturers. They have battery production and priority access to rare earth minerals via their influence funding infrastructure projects in Africa. At the Geneva Motor show in 2010, how we all laughed at the crude Chinese copies of the RAV4, BMW X5 and Fiat Panda... we're not laughing now as they have production capacity, competitiveness and markets that (without a delay in an ICE ban) is ready to absorb everything they can make as the legacy OEMs play catch up!

[@bonk352]

Nope

[@Brian-om2hh]

China has around 200 electric car manufacturers......

[@ianmcconnell5973]

These plans are touted as EU or UK government policy items, but are in reality driven (forgive the pun) by the WEF crowd. I am also mindful that our soon to be crowned new King, Charles 3rd (a bit like Richard, perhaps?), is also a long time WEF supporter and, despite actual laws to the contrary, is as much in charge of government policy as the PM, and both answer to the bankers! So, they'll plan on another few years of ICE vehicle manufacture, but what about the fuel for them? Will there be huge price increases and / or large drops in production in favour of some new wonder technology that only the rich can afford? The goal has always been to get rid of personal car ownership (among other things) so I'd take anything the government says with a very large pinch of salt.

[@bonk352]

Basically anything linked with covid, WEF, or electric is all unwanted and unnecessary. They are all interfering but a lot of people seem to think they're for the greater good.

[@BionicRusty]

Turns out the energy security day is a hosepipe ban in Devon.

[@mershersmidt1]

Hi mate ships run on bunker fuel one of the worst contaminators the new cruise ships run on gas which when I last checked is still a fossil fuel - and planes and airports contribute a massive amount of co2 - the latter calculation is a bit of a weid one but worth looking into for co2 emissions

[@FutureProofPerformance]

I think it is highly likely to get revised, as an industry we are simply not able to shift 100% away from the ICE, what it has done is focus a great many minds in research into alternative fuel and emission reduction. Initially it had a VERY negative impact in that it gutted research funding in the UK, for some time in 2020 we were question if there would be any further research funding going towards ICE emission reduction. Fortunately a co-worker today let me know the EU have revised their ruling to permit E-fuels and alternative source fuels after 2030 which will go a long way to easing the lack of funding for other paths to net zero than just forcing everyone into EVs.

[@stevewilkins816]

It's pointless, the UK worrying about Carbon emissions when we only contribute to 1% of the world's emissions. The USA and China are emitting around 75% combined.

[@DigiDriftZone]

It literally is insane, even if our entire island sank into the sea, it would have an immeasurable effect on climate change.

[@wisenber]

Was that appeasing manufacturers or the buying public? With never needed rolling blackouts becoming more pervasive (and rising rates to go with it), it hardly seems the time to be piling on more demand.

[@Cheeky-fingers]

How is this for weird. At Heathrow airport Taxi and Private hire drivers have an Authorised Waiting area. Basically a car park with a few facilities we can park up in whilst waiting for flights to land. It costs a 1 pound an hour. Its a great place to plane spot for those interested and I very much doubt they can doubt they can tell identify taxis from private cars as TFL vehicles only display a small disc in the windows of their cars which are often obscured by tinted windows. Anyway they have now removed the Hydrogen and EV chargers, can anyone make sense of this as it was a perfect place for the zero emissions vehicles to charge. There was about 10 to 15 chargers. All gone now. Anyway for those interested in checking it out the car park is located above the Tunnel you access T2 and T3. Like I say I am pretty confident anyone could park in there as only taxis like mine display a large licence plate. It is not patrolled.

[@sp-tw8ij]

Make the cars smaller and lighter, this will reduce fuel consumption. The car manufacturers say cars are bigger and heavier due to crash safety. But the current polo is almost the same size as the original Golf. The original BMW 3 series is similar in size to the current 2 series. It's just an excuse to make cars bigger for no real reason.

[@kazmo27]

Nice to finally be able to comment, KZbin wouldn't let me when you first published this video, I thought that KZbin had banned it straight away, as it wouldn't let me share it either, telling me that it was an illegal operation.

[@phatmeow7764]

i read an article about renewable Butanol from the whiskey industry in Scotland? The UK ought to promote domestically produced renewable fuels and secure some measure of energy security rather than depending on others building castles in the air haha

[@davidgreenwood5241]

While there at it do the same for gas boilers

[@beckyboop3517]

Black screen ?

[@ewaf88]

All cars emit CO2 during the manufacturing. I suppose it doesn't matter if we choke people overseas as long as we can drive electric vehicles. Even Middle-class families are being hammered by the requirement to get things like heat pumps so I don't see how most can upgrade to an electric car in the next few years. Our Government is daft .

[@DerekPK]

In Sweden 🇸🇪 they want to ban cars in 2030. Kinda crazy.

[@DerekPK]

So they will ban even fuel efficient cars like Toyota Prius. In Switzerland 🇨🇭 they ban electric vehicles.

[@ewaf88]

@@DerekPK Well the Swiss are stupidly phasing out their Nuclear power generation, just like those political idiots in Germany

[@BillyNoMates1974]

2029 - the EU backs down after pressure from the euro car makers its all a load of bollox

[@safirahmed]

WEF delegates at their annual meeting didn't want to be driven in electric vehicles but instead wanted combustion engine vehicles for travel to and from Davos. Hydrogen is a safer alternative to electric vehicles until permanent magnet motors can be widely developed and used.

[@safirahmed]

@@FullFact548 Hydrogen once ignited doesn't ignite again and goes out though remaining combustible materials may remain on fire. Lithium fires don't self extinguish and can burn for a very long time and need vast amounts of water to put out.

[@safirahmed]

@@FullFact548 The causes of the explosion with the loss of 11 lives must be examined to prevent further such occurrence and reduce further loss of life. However using your logic there would not be any use of oil and natural gas and no use of water either.

[@safirahmed]

@@FullFact548 The Earth's atmospheric level of carbon dioxide is 0.04% and reducing carbon dioxide levels much further would cause widespread crop failures and loss of trees, plants and vegetation and result in much lower levels of atmospheric oxygen. Therefore the policy to reduce carbon dioxide levels is unnecessary and counterproductive.

[@bonk352]

Now in a way, this sounds more sensible, hydrogen could well be the future.

[@pauljames970]

Well it's not a petrol and diesel ban is it ?? Its just a ban on any NEW cars with those engines, making used cars worth a fortune !!!

[@Brian-om2hh]

It's not quite as clear cut as that. ULEZ charging schemes will rip the heart out of used ICE values. Particularly anything built prior to 2015.

[@billynomates920]

wasn't yt that caused the reup was it?

[@me-cu7ds]

Not sure our parliament or the people who lobby them have any idea on anything. Massive holes in going electric as we will struggle to charge everything when the number of EVs increases, any who thinks it will still be cheap to charge is living in a dream world. There Is also a massive hole in public finance when the switch finally happens and the money generated by the motorist drops, what will fill that gap.....all quiet on that. Also they act of charging will be a problem for millions of home dwellers. Just a couple of things that to ponder in the rush to make the poor poorer and the rich ...they will just carry on....new Victorian era on the horizon

[@kazmo27]

I tried to share this video and KZbin told me that I couldn't, because they'd encountered an error. I think they've banned this video Geoff, as I can't find it on your KZbin channel when I searched for it either. I'm glad that when I checked an hour later, that they've now actually allowed your video to be posted and shared ❤❤❤❤❤

[@GeoffBuysCars]

That might be my error - I filmed and uploaded 2x videos, and then i got the descriptions, titles and thumbnails the wrong way round, so had to delete one and redo it.

[@kevinabalo]

My friend, a Geologist, said: The thinking at around the late 90's was to extract lithium from Afghanistan. Could be the USSR had the same goal in 1979. Either way, we went after it in 2002 ... . . And the result? There's nowhere near the amount of lithium as was once thought.

[@brumster69]

I just like it when your accent slips. 😄 Good shows

[@ogasi1798]

i said at the start - i still say it now, i do not believe they can nor will stick to it, they never had any intention

[@christastic100]

Absolutely bang on point.

[@hendongooner7383]

Compliance is our downfall

[@ingopaul67]

Boris has a lot to answer for, he's a Twxt.

[@EricDowning-ez7zb]

Geoff, can you find out what happened, to the £106millon, that Teresea May, said in 2018, would make the UK, the leaders in the EV industry please???

[@jimhardy1897]

I have noticed older diesel cars are more exspensive than 2 yrs ago.

[@DigiDriftZone]

By around £7k - better buy one quick! - I'm holding onto my non-ULEZ 2013 C Class Diesel, even at £12.50 per day that's cheaper than EVs without off-street night charging.

[@margaretkaye4132]

I commented on one channel that electric cars were dead in the water and was laughed at. I still think the same only more so!

[@Brian-om2hh]

That's probably because you've never owned one, and have no experience of them. I've had mine for 30 months, and I'm more than happy with it. 1000 miles for £40 if I charge at home.

[@johntaphouse5235]

surely the gov. would simply not register asny new petrol/diesel after 2030 so i dont understand this asia boost

[@totalutternutter]

Imagine a world where you're forced to choose between saving the planet or the German car industry and the German car industry wins.

[@thehoodfab1]

Why, what's happening to the planet.

[@Globetrotter-1]

Nothing is happening to the planet! 😂 This whole 'green agenda' is a total money-making scam!

[@alexsteel2118]

Your name is absolutely correct!😊

[@bonk352]

​​@@thehoodfab1 The weather is still fairly consistent in the UK and mainland Europe, so there is no concrete proof to indicate the alarm bells of severe and deadly climate change. I think Germany can see this point.

[@totalutternutter]

@@thehoodfab1 Apparently the German car industry was causing global warming by cheating exhaust emissions tests but luckily they were given massive fines which cooled the planet back down again.