2030 UK Petrol and Diesel Car Ban - Points and Facts

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Conquer Driving

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What does the UK 2030 petrol and diesel ban actually mean and what is likely to happen. In this video I take an unbiased view and explain what is likely to happen when the ban goes ahead based on the research I have made. How will this affect car prices, will it make the air cleaner, what about fuel duty, can the electric grid handle it and much more explained in the video.
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00:00 My agenda
00:26 What is means
01:10 Left behind
02:04 Enough public charging?
03:07 Hydrogen?
06:42 Manual cars?
08:44 Cleaner air
09:26 Life cycle emissions
10:45 Innovation
12:35 Used prices
13:09 Electric grid
14:38 Fuel prices
15:10 Fuel duty
16:05 Does it solve the problem?
16:54 The dates could change
17:06 Outro

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@patrickm.4754
@patrickm.4754 Жыл бұрын
Considering UK households are struggling to heat their homes this winter, it begs the question if, and how, can they afford to charge their cars.
@joeymclovin53
@joeymclovin53 Жыл бұрын
Well said Patrick
@angrygromit93
@angrygromit93 Жыл бұрын
Same way that others afford to fill thier vehicles with gasoline/diesel
@rjds1800
@rjds1800 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, I'm not convinced about EVs and are they really that environmentally friendly? I doubt it. As for Net Zero..... nope not going there.
@EXSKIN
@EXSKIN Жыл бұрын
@@angrygromit93 5 mins compar3ed to 35-60 mins
@angrygromit93
@angrygromit93 Жыл бұрын
@@EXSKIN what does time have to do with affordability?
@teamgaming1294
@teamgaming1294 Жыл бұрын
Half a million quid on charging points in the streets?? 😂 Yet we have to pay double the electric bill and living costs are through the roof... The UK government is actually brain dead
@neilwilliams2907
@neilwilliams2907 Жыл бұрын
Billion, not million 😲 .
@aaroncousins4750
@aaroncousins4750 Жыл бұрын
@@neilwilliams2907 dont mind him, he isnt the brightest. He will figure it out eventually, after going off and protesting
@maalikserebryakov
@maalikserebryakov Жыл бұрын
@@aaroncousins4750 arrogant aaron You are an example of the dunning kruger effect
@B_-.-
@B_-.- Жыл бұрын
@@aaroncousins4750 I certainty hope he does go off and protest, he should unionize and go on strike too!
@millie0121
@millie0121 Жыл бұрын
They want us to have nothing
@kristianTV1974
@kristianTV1974 Жыл бұрын
I'm sticking with the brand new diesel I bought in 2007, which is when, by the way, we were told at the time that diesel was the way forward. 163k miles into that car, still drives like new (no joke) and gives 48mpg. I'm not chopping that in for anything else for the foreseeable.
@jameshall890
@jameshall890 Жыл бұрын
My petrol 2009 aygo does roughly 60 MPG.
@stevied6965
@stevied6965 Жыл бұрын
I’ve a 52 golf tdi 130. Had it ten year and is bulletproof. Absolutely love the car. Bout 48 mpg also. I’ve no desire for any this electric apart from my tooth brush.
@motaboi5397
@motaboi5397 7 ай бұрын
​@@jameshall890but thats a small tinbox
@RiderRated18
@RiderRated18 Жыл бұрын
I still find it suspicious that the original date for the overall ban of brand new petrol/diesel cars was 2040. That always felt like a realistic date for EV’s and the infrastructure to be fully ready, but then it just suddenly changed to 2030 which doesn’t feel like enough time for everything to be up to scratch.
@timsmith5339
@timsmith5339 Жыл бұрын
I worry that you are right. I think the date move was a moment of bravado and oneupmanship by Boris. The trouble is, he's accelerated it on paper but not in action. I'm an EV driver and I feel it out on the road. We have gone from not enough and unreliable chargers, through a short sweet spot where I thought things were really taking off, back to not enough and unreliable chargers. The take up of EVs is going faster that the infrastructure needed to support them. Still, must stay optimistic.
@JavaAndroid
@JavaAndroid Жыл бұрын
? The infrastructure can NEVER be 'ready'. And, EV's already have 60,000 miles extra of pollution, due to their production pollution. 😉
@cannaroe1213
@cannaroe1213 Жыл бұрын
​@@JavaAndroid I built my EV in my garage. Alright some might call it a bicycle, but it's halfway there. Certainly drinks chain oil.
@jreererer8490
@jreererer8490 Жыл бұрын
As a car enthusiast, i feel horrible about this thing happening all over the world.
@AverageAlien
@AverageAlien Жыл бұрын
Don't comply. It's simple. You comply, we all lose. Keep driving what you want to drive. Ignore the government. When they come knocking, do NOT comply. I repeat, never comply. You are weak if you comply. You are not a man if you comply.
@jreererer8490
@jreererer8490 Жыл бұрын
@@AverageAlien I will drive the ever loving shit out of my golf 3 1.9TDI until it dies
@Umbasaa
@Umbasaa Жыл бұрын
@@jreererer8490 You better complt, combustion engine vehicles are destroying the world! Get an electric car or stay on the bus buddy
@sunniboi7105
@sunniboi7105 Жыл бұрын
@@Umbasaa at this point you might aswell get a bycicle, much cheaper than a EV and you dont have to pay anything in taxes. Not to mention the absence of lithium batteries
@sunniboi7105
@sunniboi7105 Жыл бұрын
@@laviniusvacariu5826 just yesterday i saw a post of an electric maseratti(?) catching fire when staying in some guy's garrage. If that is safe then idk what to tell this @run guy.
@michaeluwu_lamp1774
@michaeluwu_lamp1774 Жыл бұрын
Hope I can afford a brand new petrol car before 2030.
@rufusgreenleaf2466
@rufusgreenleaf2466 Жыл бұрын
To be honest i believe petrol cars as new as even 2029 will be so energy efficient, they might as well be full electric. You can buy new petrol cars now that are green to the environment.
@collinslfc
@collinslfc Жыл бұрын
The problem you will have is that the government will tax petrol and diesel cars massively to discourage people from buying them. Plus taxing the fuel itself even more.
@MusaM8
@MusaM8 Жыл бұрын
@@rufusgreenleaf2466 Even the most efficient petrol engines waste over 80% of their energy to heat and noise. They will always emit air and water pollutants, and the extraction and refinement of oil is horrible for the environment too.
@jrogers253
@jrogers253 Жыл бұрын
@@MusaM8 that number is rather 50%, if we’re talking about the most efficient internal combustion engines and comparing a petrol’s energy density to battery’s density, it definitely does make up for it.
@bibalnasaha2534
@bibalnasaha2534 Жыл бұрын
@@MusaM8 EV production isn’t much better, the lithium and cobalt used for batteries are often extracted from conflict zones using child/slave labour and extremely environmentally toxic chemical processes. There’s 2 sides to every coin
@MajorKlanga
@MajorKlanga Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a very clear and balanced summary. I'm old enough to remember reading about Audi developing hydrogen propulsion for cars back in the late 70's.
@Grahamvfr
@Grahamvfr Жыл бұрын
A fantastic and well delivered video Richard, busting a few myths. Just Can't see it happening as early 2030, hopefully, bit like the optimistic autonomous car thing.. Remember them.
@dillanmistry
@dillanmistry Жыл бұрын
In Germany they scrapped this idea, Germany has never looks so good before
@ConquerDriving
@ConquerDriving Жыл бұрын
I didn't know that, thank you for letting me know.
@kingslayer2731
@kingslayer2731 Жыл бұрын
No? There will be no new petrol and diesel cars after 2035
@AliElBaba
@AliElBaba Жыл бұрын
@@kingslayer2731 If i remember correct they cancelled that
@kingslayer2731
@kingslayer2731 Жыл бұрын
@@ConquerDriving I think he is wrong. The EU voted that from 2035 new cars have to be emission free, that means no petrol or diesel. One option for keeping ICE cars would be to use E-Fuels
@kingslayer2731
@kingslayer2731 Жыл бұрын
@@AliElBaba i can't find a article or something similar that would suggest that the EU changed it's mind
@dylanrodrigues9267
@dylanrodrigues9267 Жыл бұрын
Hoping and praying 🙏 that Porsche and Lambo hurry up with their synthetic fuel development
@AverageAlien
@AverageAlien Жыл бұрын
No, piss off. The people need to hurry up and wake up to overthrow or ignore the tyrant state.
@PiaDoBan
@PiaDoBan Жыл бұрын
There actually is a "synthetic fuel" it's called ethanol, and can be produced from basically any thing that can be fermented, for example sugar cane, you are basically capturing CO2 when the plants are growing and releasing it when you burn the fuel, you are not adding CO2, you are exchanging
@AverageAlien
@AverageAlien Жыл бұрын
@@PiaDoBan it's shit, low performance, engine damaging trash
@AverageAlien
@AverageAlien Жыл бұрын
@@PiaDoBan it still produces CO2 you mong
@ocelot_zz
@ocelot_zz Жыл бұрын
me too 😢
@louiszhang3050
@louiszhang3050 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the most easy to understand, unbiased, and well-researched pieces I was able to find about the news of banning petrol and diesel cars. Certainly this research can apply to most developed countries with few adjustments. Well done!
@iskindersam7834
@iskindersam7834 Жыл бұрын
How can you say its well researched if you don't know yourself. Which bit was he right about?
@kawsara5366
@kawsara5366 Жыл бұрын
From supercars to JMD to muscle the whole car community can agree that this is a sickening tragedy
@timsmith5339
@timsmith5339 Жыл бұрын
A tragedy is the number of people with respiratory problems due to the pollution that they can't get away from. The word sickening is actually very apt.
@mat_tamarin
@mat_tamarin Жыл бұрын
Great video, just wanted to say that new drivers should NEVER purchase a black-box policy. Many insurers will scam their users by claiming their black-box recorded poor driving habits. It's just not worth the hassle. Pay a bit more for a normal policy.
@NanaGlover
@NanaGlover Жыл бұрын
A bit more? It's atleast a couple thousand more if not more than that
@lukesalvidge118
@lukesalvidge118 Жыл бұрын
@@NanaGlover rip mine wasn't that much more, though I don't have an exact figure because I am fortunate to have mine paid by my parents
@BondoV2
@BondoV2 Жыл бұрын
@@NanaGlover my first car was a 1.2 ford ka mk2, 1.3k without blackbox and like 1k with one. i went without one since its wasn't really that much more.
@iskindersam7834
@iskindersam7834 Жыл бұрын
What makes this vid great.
@robblake8999
@robblake8999 Жыл бұрын
that driving section was amazing. these videos are so down to earth, informative, and well produced! thank you conquer driving!!
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a brilliant video, balanced, fair and clear.
@knightime14
@knightime14 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video!! Can I offer a small tip for your audio quaility. Use a compressor. It will normalise the highs and lows and take away some of the harshness at the top of the volume range. It will make a huge difference.
@bronyarollason4641
@bronyarollason4641 Жыл бұрын
I passed my test today!! I’d had lessons in the past but mainly learnt from my parents and your amazing videos! Thank you so much for what you do, you helped me so much!
@collinslfc
@collinslfc Жыл бұрын
And what's your thoughts on the diesel and petrol ban in 2030? You know..the whole point of this video...
@ConquerDriving
@ConquerDriving Жыл бұрын
That's a fantastic achievement, congratulations on passing!
@bronyarollason4641
@bronyarollason4641 Жыл бұрын
@@collinslfc sorry for breaking the rules of KZbin 🙃 Just felt his most recent video was the best way to get him to see my appreciation. You can easily ignore my comment 😊
@dogastus
@dogastus Жыл бұрын
Congrats!
@PrinceAndrewFucksKids
@PrinceAndrewFucksKids Жыл бұрын
@@bronyarollason4641 why do you need validation from people for passing your driving test? Thousands pass every year, nobody cares.
@rhyanandrews1979
@rhyanandrews1979 Жыл бұрын
The production quality of your videos has had such an insane jump recently, I think I subscribed around 90-100k subs, I remember being a learner binge watching all of your how to drive videos, and now here I am, license in hand, yet I still always come back. I am proud of how far you and your channel have came since then. Keep it up :D
@vitamc1213
@vitamc1213 Жыл бұрын
After 2030, I will be a lot more depressed as a car enthusiast. Seriously. What a way to ruin someone's childhood.
@maicalvlad6765
@maicalvlad6765 Жыл бұрын
One more thing to note: With ICE cars, you have the option and freedom to work on your car by yourself or go to a local street mechanic if something goes wrong. With an electric car, you’ll be waiting for weeks or even months to get it fixed if there’s some sort of fault. Not to mention the tuning potential and the possibility of modifying your car, which is something that’s highly limited on electric vehicles.
@Tensquaremetreworkshop
@Tensquaremetreworkshop Жыл бұрын
Yes, they become transport, rather than toys.
@timsmith5339
@timsmith5339 Жыл бұрын
Only if you own a pre-1990s classic. I haven't owed a car that I can work on (other than oil changes and running gear) for decades. My electric car is no worse in this regard (except that there is no oil to change and the brakes will last the life of the car).
@Tensquaremetreworkshop
@Tensquaremetreworkshop Жыл бұрын
@@timsmith5339 But they still want to change the brake fluid every year (in some countries). Ask why, and they claim moisture ingress. Of course, fitting a vapour barrier in the breather would solve this- but no manufacturer does.
@timsmith5339
@timsmith5339 Жыл бұрын
@@Tensquaremetreworkshop Well I don't know about that but it is a small issue to argue about when your burning several gallons of petrol every day don't you think?
@Tensquaremetreworkshop
@Tensquaremetreworkshop Жыл бұрын
@@timsmith5339 Gallons- gosh, I remember those… No, my consumption is less than a litre per day. And I hate being ripped off- or rather attempted; I never allow such replacement.
@Jamesdanielfitness
@Jamesdanielfitness Жыл бұрын
I love these fact based videos, want to see more of these! I’d like to see you driving in more places as well. You’re doing really well mate
@iskindersam7834
@iskindersam7834 Жыл бұрын
Everything single thing he did was wrong and a lie
@grizzlybear2702
@grizzlybear2702 Жыл бұрын
The people who complain about carbon emissions are also the same people against nuclear power
@freedomlover2808
@freedomlover2808 Жыл бұрын
The green boys are the worst.
@gotworc
@gotworc Жыл бұрын
Not really lol there are lots of people like myself that believe we need to cut down on our carbon emissions but we should definitely start building more nuclear fission plants as well as invest more money into nuclear fusion research. The issue is most people don't know jack shit about anything they're talking about
@Gopnikawa
@Gopnikawa Жыл бұрын
@@gotworc “but muh Chernobyl and Fukushima” And of course, every other nuclear power plant in the world will face the same fate, because reasons.
@roboko6618
@roboko6618 Жыл бұрын
@@Gopnikawa to be honest, in our age I'm convinced we'd find our local nuclear scientist doing stupid tiktock dances on the internet during a reactor emergency, since there have been similar parallels occuring in society recently. It does not inspire confidence, we are not as bright a society as we were even 20 years ago IMO. We will run out of people bright enough to run these things safe, and the moral deterioration of society in general means corners will be cut. Lets not forget that the most recent nuclear power stations are built using Chinese money/'experts' ....
@tcaudiobooks737
@tcaudiobooks737 Жыл бұрын
"You are the carbon they want to reduce"
@stephenmichaele
@stephenmichaele Жыл бұрын
Great video and thanks for the link to the website.
@jorgemtds
@jorgemtds Жыл бұрын
I'm screwed, I love manual gearboxes and petrol cars...
@toshineon
@toshineon Жыл бұрын
Unlike my dad, I don't hate electric cars lol. But I will say that the high price, even on the used market, is a big issue for many working class people. The kind of people that might currently drive an old Volkswagen Golf from the 90's. I can't see how they're supposed to go electric.
@Netlogic.
@Netlogic. Жыл бұрын
Don't forget about battery defects, currently if you buy a used electric car and you get a fault in the battery pack all manufacturers expect you to buy a new battery pack -> $$$$
@TheSuperBoyProject
@TheSuperBoyProject Жыл бұрын
@Johnston Wang consumerism is another thing. At the moment the expected lifespan of an EV, hybrid or not, is around 8-12 years or 200000 - 250000 miles due to battery degradation. I don't know about the UK but where I live around half the cars on the road are from the 2000s and older. What's going to happen when the switch happens?
@AverageAlien
@AverageAlien Жыл бұрын
@@TheSuperBoyProject battery cars are the oldest form of cars in existence. They are outdated pieces of shit. I can't believe we're going BACKWARDS. Wind powered ships and horrible, soulless, chinese, cheap, tacky toy cars
@54356776
@54356776 Жыл бұрын
We're not supposed to. That's the point.
@RWoody1995
@RWoody1995 Жыл бұрын
Just because they're expensive now doesn't mean they'll always be, that's why the ban is set a decade into the future. A lot of the reason EVs are expensive right now is because the market is so tiny so the R&D costs and production line setup and running costs etc are a bigger percentage of the total cost of the car, an ICE currently can have a production line set up and spread the cost of that across millions of customers while an EV production line has to spread its setup and running cost across only a few tens of thousands. When all new cars are EV you'll see plenty of new EVs for half the price you're seeing at the moment.
@minny6144
@minny6144 Жыл бұрын
Hi Richard! Just wanted to say thank you! I passed my test yesterday, took me about 60 hours of lessons and I thought I'd never manage to do it but your videos and advice have been so helpful, thank you for helping so many people, you deserve so much for doing this!
@ConquerDriving
@ConquerDriving Жыл бұрын
That's fantastic news! Thank you for watching and congratulations on passing!
@minny6144
@minny6144 Жыл бұрын
@Marc Caldwell DVSA says 20 hours of practice and 45 of driving lessons, I don't have my own car to practice in, so I needed 60 of lessons. What is the point of saying I shouldn't be on the road?
@HumongousBob
@HumongousBob Жыл бұрын
@Marc Caldwell don’t be a knob mate. No need to. I’ve also done 60hrs and got my test next month and so will many thousands of others because it’s hard to get a test now.
@foppo100
@foppo100 Жыл бұрын
So you passed your test what now? More congestion on our already congested roads.You find out how much it is to run a car be shocked.
@TheOffertonhatter
@TheOffertonhatter Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. One thing as a DEA that I know of, is that although we are using less electric than 2002, and would cover electric cars, the legislation about home heating is that gas boilers will be be banned from 2025 for new builds (that could change) and a switch to ground source and air source heat pumps, which demand a lot of electricity to run. So we could be back to square one and the grid will not be able to provide enough electricity for heating homes and transport. Would be interesting what the national grid think of this.
@johnkeepin7527
@johnkeepin7527 Жыл бұрын
The National Grid end of the system may be alright, but the local District Network Operators (DNOs) are quite likely to be more problematic. E.g. the rating of buried distribution cables, local transformers etc might have to be altered, or else more remote control to optimise demand and so on could emerge.
@lm971120
@lm971120 Жыл бұрын
Regarding manual EVs, would like to add that there’re quite a few of them in China, as some driving schools wants the low running cost/subsidy of EVs but also want to teach manual, and the manual is simulated. In addition some small electric trucks also have manual boxes as they need to make sure the right amount of torque is sent into the drivetrain at different speed to avoid damage/maximise efficiency
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
But why does an electric vehicle - which produces 100% torque from standstill - need a gearbox?
@sqarefox3928
@sqarefox3928 Жыл бұрын
@@Brian-om2hh For fun? Someone like me likes to shift gears
@samixalam_
@samixalam_ Жыл бұрын
I just want to continue driving a manual... Its the most fun way to drive in my opinion, and it's the only reason I'm pessimistic going forwards
@lukesalvidge118
@lukesalvidge118 Жыл бұрын
I partially disagree, I only like manual systems when I don't have to use a clutch. Too much of a pain in the ass
@2sik_UK
@2sik_UK Жыл бұрын
@@lukesalvidge118 clutch is super easy though, its not a pain or difficult, especially if you've been doing it for 6+months
@ibs5080
@ibs5080 Жыл бұрын
As someone who wants to keep their petrol car, I do wonder whether petrol / diesel stations will decline in numbers over the years and whether it will be neccassary to drive further to fill up.
@ConquerDriving
@ConquerDriving Жыл бұрын
If the ban happens then I'm sure they will, but the decline will be slow and take a long time.
@darkzim3872
@darkzim3872 Жыл бұрын
i think they will change to charging stations with quick chargers and a waiting room
@tcaudiobooks737
@tcaudiobooks737 Жыл бұрын
@@darkzim3872 Waiting room = sales of crisps and coffee will skyrocket. Sure they'll be fine with that.
@darkzim3872
@darkzim3872 Жыл бұрын
@@tcaudiobooks737 oh I fully expect it will be a money pit along with paid WIFI access, snacks, drinks newspapers they could even change it to a small cafe they have a captive audience for a hour or more So I expect them to take advantage of it
@pete2070
@pete2070 Жыл бұрын
It'll happen anyway as the idiots behind this electric car lunacy, close down the sources of petrol and diesel, to put to death the remaining hard-core drivers who love their I.C.E., cars!
@cuebj
@cuebj Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Very informative and clear
@SPEED_BOYZ_19
@SPEED_BOYZ_19 Жыл бұрын
As a car enthusiast i really love the manuels and i would be very sad to see it being a thing in the past
@lm971120
@lm971120 Жыл бұрын
Well done, Richard! I'd say this video's probably better than any coverages (and the most factually accurate) on the issue from mainstream media I'm seen, yet you managed to make it so easy to understand (as someone who drove EVs on long trips for 2 years).
@iskindersam7834
@iskindersam7834 Жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha you sound sponsored but humour me for 1 sec and tell me which bits he got right. Guarantee you can't think of one.
@leifcian4288
@leifcian4288 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately lithium supply's will be bottlenecked like this and it would probably be much better to focus incentives on making battery packs available for mid drive bicycle conversions. Many more bicycles converted to electric for the resources in one electric car, an old steel bike can be refurbished to handle 30/35mph pretty well and safely if there was a proportionate licence and maintenance regime to go with. You just don't need a whole car for every short to medium distance journey around built up areas, with no passengers or little to no luggage. Using your car for less journeys will save costs on maintenance and general wear and tear over time.
@alg3n320
@alg3n320 Жыл бұрын
or trains
@leifcian4288
@leifcian4288 Жыл бұрын
@@alg3n320 And trains. For personal use over short to medium distance you can't do much better than a bike on balance for efficiency and agility around built up areas. With a mid drive motor and a battery on an old steel bicycle it's only around like a 35kg odd platform so exponentially more efficient than a 1 or 2 plus tonne car at velocities up to about 30mph, which is ALL you need for the vast majority of urban use cases. You don't make journeys any faster in the majority of instances by trying to push velocity harder than the environment can facilitate. Really you just make the majority of journeys slower for yourself and everyone else by decimating fluidity. You could have a battery pack charger near the home smart meter and then you also get the benefits of helping to support grid stability and having home power back up. Couple of decent and properly made E Bike battery packs would be much more accessible to so many more people economically if it wasn't for larger electric vehicles mopping up all lithium supply's and driving the price up a lot. Just buying a single 18650 battery for a flashlight or something became a lot more difficult all of a sudden a few years ago when all the electric vehicle stuff started to get pushed harder. Really there will not be any substitute for simply using cars less and there will always have use cases where ICE vehicles are a better more logistical choice. ICE has always been terrible and wasteful for built up areas but for longer distances there still much more logistical, also the largest vehicles due to the square cube law will still be better powered by combustion fuels for certain longer distances journeys. Its the smallest and more urban use case vehicles that are much better to be electric and that's the way its always been for over a hundred years really but the motor lobby pushed to have ICE vehicles accepted as everyone's general purpose day to day vehicles.
@leifcian4288
@leifcian4288 Жыл бұрын
@@alg3n320 I hope you didn't mean battery powered trains anyway lol. If course trains shouldn't need no batteries to be electric therefore no issues around lithium supply and demand.
@54356776
@54356776 Жыл бұрын
This has nothing to do with the environment.
@leifcian4288
@leifcian4288 Жыл бұрын
@@54356776 What I'm saying has plenty to do with the environment actually, although I didn't actually mention "the environment" until you have to comment being all passé contrarian like a right basic bruh.
@sisyphussapprentice8976
@sisyphussapprentice8976 Жыл бұрын
What a sensible, informative video. Thank you.
@iskindersam7834
@iskindersam7834 Жыл бұрын
You are sponsored
@realhass
@realhass Жыл бұрын
I must say your kitchen spice racks are well organised 😊
@freedomlover2808
@freedomlover2808 Жыл бұрын
Just in time from Klaus Schwab’s Great Reset.
@2sik_UK
@2sik_UK Жыл бұрын
1000%
@coreofthespiral4757
@coreofthespiral4757 Жыл бұрын
Been reading through the comments section to see how many are aware of what is really going on. Depressingly few. They still don't get it. People are brain-dead.
@jannikmatthias9289
@jannikmatthias9289 Жыл бұрын
It'll be a dark future if the majority of people comply. As it seems looking at this comment section we've already lost.
@freedomlover2808
@freedomlover2808 Жыл бұрын
@@jannikmatthias9289 Europeans being Europeans, unfortunately.
@dixienormous2440
@dixienormous2440 Жыл бұрын
''You will own nothing, and be happy''.
@thecraigmachine69
@thecraigmachine69 Жыл бұрын
The real solution is to reduce car dependency. That solves a lot of problems, less pollution, noise, deaths, expense (both personal and government), more space for greenery/housing, etc. etc. That’s the future I would rather see. But that will never happen, as much of our economies are built upon private car ownership.
@codyjcaudill
@codyjcaudill Жыл бұрын
Yeah as someone who owns a Miata (the same car he has in this video) and enjoys driving, the absolute reliance on cars by nature of our infrastructure is not compatible with sustainability-even with electrics. It would be better for everyone and the planet if we had infrastructure that supported robust public transportation and alternative modes of travel.
@azertycraftgaming
@azertycraftgaming Жыл бұрын
It's cool to have a car, it's even better when you can choose to not use it.
@iosifd2409
@iosifd2409 Жыл бұрын
In Spain , public transport is well connected , number of diesel cars reduced drastically , their solution rellies on LPG and CNG , nobody in UK looks at these , as LPG is way greener and way cheaper , but the profit for big companies speaks louder .
@alexdavila1356
@alexdavila1356 Жыл бұрын
why would I want to be forced to use public transportation and travel with questionable people?
@MichaelFlatman
@MichaelFlatman Жыл бұрын
@@alexdavila1356 why would i want to be forced to share a shop or restauarant with questionable people? humans are social creatures (hopefully).. if you want to be isolated all the time you're more than welcome to just stay at home..
@x66Hawk66x
@x66Hawk66x Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. I guess the best course of action would be to buy a petrol car just before the ban kicks in, then at least you can hold onto that car for another decade or so, giving Electric cars time to improve further and for prices to lower. my biggest worry will be the shape of the second hand car market as time goes on.
@Ztallord
@Ztallord Жыл бұрын
I would like to point out one thing that i don't think most people now about and that is that there is also a hi amount of polution from tires and especially so from EV:s due to there weight and power. So banning ICE cars wont make the air better in the city it might make it worse. Not to mention that you also need raw oil to make the current lithium batteries so i can't se how EV:s are better for the environment.
@Ca18detEnjoyer
@Ca18detEnjoyer Жыл бұрын
Oh shit I never even considered this that's like actually a seriously good point. I've usually been against saying ev's are good for the environment because by definition producing them is extremely bad for the environment so that statement is one I will never agree with but considering now that continuing to keep them going is bad too, even if you only look at the tire side of things and not the electrical systems, It just decreases the distance between how much ICE and ev cars effect the environment. Unfortunately however we are now at a point where most people are either all for ICE or only for ev so trying to bring up these types of issues are usually ineffective
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
HGV trucks have been wearing their tyres out on the roads for decades. Why is this suddenly an issue for you now?
@Ca18detEnjoyer
@Ca18detEnjoyer Жыл бұрын
@@Brian-om2hh The whole point of the comment was to bring up that it will be more common with the increased weight of an ev and that's it... saying "why is it suddenly an issue for you now" just reeks of passive aggressive smugness
@timsmith5339
@timsmith5339 Жыл бұрын
You are possibly right about tyre wear on EVs. I have had two and haven't noticed any difference but also haven't monitored it particularly. I have several friends with EVs too and they are in agreement with me, if there are studies that say EVs wear their tyres faster then we suppose they must, bit it isn't something we have noticed. What is a fact though is that tyre wear, though not good, is a tiny part of the polution coming out of fossil burning cars. Even if you don't count that ALL of the fuel you put into it comes out as polution, you also have waste oil, brake and clutch pad wear. If EVs do in fact wear their tyres faster, then they make up by having no clutch and only using one set of brake pads for the life of the car.
@vincentbentley1079
@vincentbentley1079 Жыл бұрын
@@Brian-om2hh If 1.5 ton passenger carrying vehicle that typically conveys just one person consumes a set of four tyres every 30,000 miles. A 2.5 ton passenger carrying BEV that typically conveys the same consumes a set of tyres every 20,000 miles. The volume of airborne tyre particulate matter will increase considerably. As diesel HGV usually are on journeys carrying a full cargo load, there will be no increase to their annual tyre consumption. Also, the larger diameter the tyre, the longer it lasts. Passenger cars, even luxury SUVs with 22" alloys and low profile tyres only get around 25,000 miles from a set because they have a small rolling radius compared to a HGV tyre. Most HGV tyres are also recycled once or twice as remoulds further lessening the environmental impact of their use whereas passenger car remoulds have all but disappeared meaning every EV tyre will be brand new and every worn out one is someone else's problem.
@Dmxravin
@Dmxravin Жыл бұрын
Using nuclear energy for hydrogen production takes the inefficiency and emissions issue out of the equation. Nuclear energy is very safe and clean.
@RWoody1995
@RWoody1995 Жыл бұрын
you still need to generate twice as much energy even if you're using nuclear that's not great, you can supply all the power you need for all the BEVs in the world with half as many additional nuclear power plants as you need to generate all the hydroven needed if the same number of cars were FCEV, twice as many again if Hydrogen ICE.
@Dmxravin
@Dmxravin Жыл бұрын
@@RWoody1995 it will still be the only viable option going forward. ICE engines are only 30% efficient.
@ajstevens1652
@ajstevens1652 Жыл бұрын
@@RWoody1995 But you would need to produce 1/2 tonne batteries for every one of those vehicles, which will need to be replaced at some point in the car's useful life, at which point hydrogen becomes a more efficient solution.
@RWoody1995
@RWoody1995 Жыл бұрын
@@Dmxravin hydrogen isn't much more efficient than ICE, there's losses in production and transportation and then only 60% efficient in the fuel cell. Battery EVs are 90% efficient from the power plant output to the turning of the wheels.
@RWoody1995
@RWoody1995 Жыл бұрын
@@ajstevens1652 rarely. there are plenty of original nissan leafs still running strong on their original battery with 100-150k miles on the clock and that's one of the most (if not THE most) poorly thermally managed EV batteries on the market. There are even many original tesla model s with 95% of their original range after 10 years and 150k miles of driving. This idea that EV batteries will need to be replaced in less often is poorly thought out misconception that EV batteries and laptop/phone batteries are the same, they are not. Laptops and phones have no battery cooling. They regularly allow the battery to reach temperatures exceeding 40C, even maybe 60C+ and stay there for long periods while liquid cooled packs in BEVs never exceed 40C (they may purposefully heat them up to 40C during a rapid charging session as that lets them charge faster but they still won't exceed it and certainly will be cooled back down to 25C within minutes after the charge session completes). You also have the fact that phones and laptops are cycled almost daily or maybe even more often than that whereas the average motorist with a 200 mile ranged EV will only cycle the battery once every 20 days which already increases lifespan 20x. And for those who do drive high miles they'll still get 2k+ cycles out of their battery thanks to the thermal management and they'll get 400k miles out of the battery, most ICEVs are scrapped by 150-200k.
@momentomori5934
@momentomori5934 Жыл бұрын
Just like to say I passed first time a few days ago with 4 driving faults and only 28 hours of lessons, your videos helped me a lot 👍🏻
@ConquerDriving
@ConquerDriving Жыл бұрын
That's fantastic news! Congratulations on passing!
@andysims4906
@andysims4906 Жыл бұрын
If we only ever had electric cars and someone invented to internal combustion engine it would of been seen as a major breakthrough. Just think a car that could be filled up in 5 mins do 500 plus miles . And all the manufacturers and oil companies provided plenty of places to fill up. Just my thoughts
@danielmarshall4587
@danielmarshall4587 Жыл бұрын
Good vid thank you for putting this together.
@iskindersam7834
@iskindersam7834 Жыл бұрын
Why is it good
@RJE48
@RJE48 Жыл бұрын
Thank goodness the word is spreading in regards to battery storage around the grid. Thank you!
@iskindersam7834
@iskindersam7834 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but I don't think you know how battery's work. It's not like a fuel tank that holds whatever about its inside 100%. Battery cells don't hold energy 100% but over gradual time it loses energy. Just like when you get a flat battery cuz you ain't driven it awhile. Tires can't hold air permanently hence every so often you got to pump them back up. Battery are the same. Everything single thing he did was wrong or a lie.
@nattywatty5711
@nattywatty5711 Жыл бұрын
So the government want to install 300000 local charging points, when they could just make rail and buses more available and cheaper?
@EhteshamShahzad
@EhteshamShahzad Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@gotworc
@gotworc Жыл бұрын
Do you think that would actually incetivize people to give up their cars? Nah no way people are way too stubborn even if public transportation in the entire world was amazing.
@EhteshamShahzad
@EhteshamShahzad Жыл бұрын
@@gotworc thats because they have never been given good alternatives to driving. Just look at Netherlands.
@Journey_Awaits
@Journey_Awaits Жыл бұрын
They’re striking 90% of the year each year, not a chance
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
That wouldn't benefit me, as I live in a small rural village. There are just 3 buses per day. Morning, mid-day and late afternoon. None run at weekends. My wife works shifts on an alternating pattern. One week it's 5.30am start until 1.30pm. Then the following week it's 1.30pm start until 9.30pm. None of the buses running through our village would be any good to her.
@soundseeker63
@soundseeker63 Жыл бұрын
The comparison with electricity consumption now vs 2002 was interesting. I really wouldn't have thought it would have gone down that much even with all the improvements in appliance efficiency and insulation etc. I'm also surprised National Grid say if everyone went electric it would "only" add 10% to demand. I would have expected it would be more. That said, I get the impression our generation capacity is also less than in 2002 and the system runs on much slimmer margins then it once did. There is also the question of the mining of precious metals for the battery packs, is there enough to go round post 2030? Are all the mining processes safe, ethical and environmentally responsible? Is the recycling system ready to cope with the huge influx of battery packs that are soon to head their way? There's a lot of unaswered questions still, but I found the video to be well presented, unbiased and informative. Good job.
@keithnorman3519
@keithnorman3519 Жыл бұрын
It’s all lies as the electric suppliers are toeing the government line.
@EXSKIN
@EXSKIN Жыл бұрын
Yes because they've shut down the coal fired power stations, dash for gas was the solgan, that's even bad now.
@normhanson981
@normhanson981 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video . Thanks.
@W1CKED__
@W1CKED__ Жыл бұрын
biofuels like the ones Porsche are developing seem like a good middle ground.
@HR15DE
@HR15DE Жыл бұрын
no, they will be very expensive people are complaining with these fuel prices, people wont buy synth fuel will be used only by rich people enjoy the sounds of their sports cars thats it used car prices will skyrocket in ice ban countries
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
Forget it. They will never be able to produce enough to make it viable. They haven't even built a production plant yet. The figures I saw quoted showed they might (might) be able to produce 500 million litres per year. The World gets through more than that in a single day...... And then there's the cost. You can actually buy Aspen synthetic petrol now. The cost? Around £25 to £30 a gallon......
@barriedear5990
@barriedear5990 Жыл бұрын
Five chargers per pump in UK is a start, but a pump can service 100's of cars a day. Don't be too hung up about a large battery on a long trip. Size your battery on your daily mileage needs.
@asprintablet
@asprintablet Жыл бұрын
Am I meant to have two cars? a city electric and a petrol for traveling out of the city? I live in Edinburgh and often if I am traveling out of the city I need at least 120 miles range and the electric version of my car claims it has a range of about 209 miles but all the reviews say they were lucky to get 160 miles predicted and what happens if I come across a diversion that increases my route, I then need to stop to find a charging point to be able to get home and hope it works once I get there.
@barriedear5990
@barriedear5990 Жыл бұрын
@@asprintablet Charger anxiety is more of an issue than range anxiety. A lot of older single chargers are being replaced by banks of 4 or 6 faster chargers. Look at Harthill for example. It is really stopping being an issue. recently drove to Coventry in a 140 mile range car, just to see if it could be done, and it was very doable. No queues, no reliability issues. (Also Edinburgh resident EH4).
@pier11francesco
@pier11francesco Жыл бұрын
This right here Is why no one buys electric cars, Just reading this comment made me laugh loudly It's just complete insanity.
@lm971120
@lm971120 Жыл бұрын
As a young person who likes cars (always did and can't lie about feelings, but also like buses and trains) and cares about environment (I try to cycle/use public transport as much as possible, despite I do enjoy occasional B Road runs), I do find buying cars to be a dilemma ATM. EVs at the moment generally felt too expensive for what they are (ie. ask 'if it's not an EV would I accept this price'?) and feels very 'mass-produced'. The used prices are very high and are unlikely to go down as demand far out-strip the supply, and new ones difficult to get even you can afford (was quoted 50 weeks lead time from VW). To me I feel to make EVs more engaging to drive will be more than merely imitating an ICE manual, but perhaps some other dimensions that was previously overlooked/not possible, yet are also useful. Since you've mentioned gen1 Insight, I drive a manual CR-Z (very good manual on a hybrid surprisingly) and can't find an exact replacement/upgrade (used MX5 and Giulia (only ZF8 tho) both look tempting, or even S2000 or VX220 - but would I buy them knowing I could've done better emission wise?) I do think it's possible to make engaging/fun EVs, just now the focus of manufactures isn't on that, but huge range (instead of efficiency), high power charging and crazy 0-60 times (not really fun IMO). In regard to emission, I feel the focus should've, and will become more on how the vehicle is used, rather than just what kind of vehicle it is and propose a one-fit-in-all 'solution'.
@jessejames1827
@jessejames1827 Жыл бұрын
Very well said.
@felawes
@felawes Жыл бұрын
My 20 year old Mercedes E Class Estate does 51mpg and typically manages 700 miles per tank. And I plan to drive it for another 90,000 miles to clock up 250,000 miles. And I bought it three years ago for £1,350. Oh - and I park it in Chelsea inside London's ULEZ, using my Freedom pass for the six months when I'm not living in France. Works nicely. If it gives up I'll buy a late model Porsche Panamera diesel. All of which amounts to a minimal carbon footprint compared to buying a new electric car.
@neilwilliams2907
@neilwilliams2907 Жыл бұрын
2:06 to 3.07 - 300,000 sounds great as you say, but just before that you showed a typical street where these would be used. People are going to drive home from work, plug in their car on the post outside their home and leave it there till they go to work the next morning. There might only be 1/5th of the fuel pumps, but each car only needs to be at one for 10 minutes once in a while then carry on their journey. Do you know the cost of the electric from these street posts? Will it be at home charging prices or more expensive like charging elsewhere at the moment?
@ConquerDriving
@ConquerDriving Жыл бұрын
That's a good point. In this video I'm not saying it's good, bad, right or wrong. I'm just reporting my research.
@neilwilliams2907
@neilwilliams2907 Жыл бұрын
@@ConquerDriving And report it very well you did too. I've just found your channel and will enjoy looking at your other videos.
@EXSKIN
@EXSKIN Жыл бұрын
And the cable cutting antics of the yoof of today just for laughs.
@joebuden904
@joebuden904 Жыл бұрын
Okay so, then how are you going to get all commuters to transition with the huge mounting costs to a vehicle class that has proven to have its own many disadvantages. Driving will be for the rich as will everything
@ConquerDriving
@ConquerDriving Жыл бұрын
I hope driving doesn't become only for the rich. That doesn't sound like a nice future.
@hamsterama
@hamsterama Жыл бұрын
No problem, Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates have a solution for that. You will eat bugs, live in the pod, wear a facemask, get the vaccine, have no privacy, and you will like it.
@RWoody1995
@RWoody1995 Жыл бұрын
EV prices are falling every year, just a few years ago you needed to spend 50k for an EV which could easily do over 200 miles on a charge and now it's possible for less than 30k. still not cheap but add another 8-13 years of advancement and a rapidly growing market share and that'll easily drop below 20k imo (price of a VW golf, not a car only for the rich). Add another 10-20 years (because all those ICEVs built up to 2030-2035 won't just disappear overnight) and i'm sure we'll be at the point like we are now where 1-2k will get you a decent EV with plenty of lifespan remaining.
@jonnyvt6602
@jonnyvt6602 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this, answered a few of the questions I had, n proved me wrong in some of my misconceptions
@kapu3746
@kapu3746 Жыл бұрын
On manual cars section you changed gears quite often on what seemed a clear road, and didn't look like you had to speed up or slow down a lot, was there a reason for that?
@camokeever3317
@camokeever3317 Жыл бұрын
The most worrying thing for me , is that in large battery electric vehicles are worse for the environment than any production car. The reason hydrogen hasn’t kicked on is simply to do with the money. If you look at countries like Switzerland, shell (and other companies I’m sure) are starting to invest in the infrastructure. However it needs to be more. Much more.
@solitaryclusterofneurons598
@solitaryclusterofneurons598 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, I don't understand why no one's acknowledging this. Japan already has a somewhat decent number of hydrogen stations as they've been more receptive to hydrogen fuel cell cars over the past 15 years, and they're planning to have 350 hydrogen fuel stations by 2025, and about 900 by 2030. Over there, a tank of hydrogen is about 15% more than an equivalent tank of petrol, though it burns roughly 3x as fast (with current technology anyway), with about 130 hydrogen stations across the country, so it's pricey but not any worse than electric. It's just that investors and governments in the west really buy into Elon Musk's delusions and would rather sacrifice the environment than take a loss or have their ego bruised after all the talk about how green electric cars are.
@piratehipster412
@piratehipster412 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! More people need to understand this quick! Think about where the electricity is going to come from for charging all these!!
@lancethrust9488
@lancethrust9488 Жыл бұрын
@@solitaryclusterofneurons598 HYDROGEN EXTREMLY DANGEROUS JUST LIKE LITHIUM THIS ROLLOUT IS GOING TO BE A BLOOD BATH , MILLIONS WILL DIE DUE TO THIS CHANGE OVER TIME
@paullamkin4062
@paullamkin4062 Жыл бұрын
@Apocalyptic Workshop Certainly is !! The so called elite do not want us driving battery cars, they do not want us travelling.at all Those hypocrites just want to swan about in their private fuel guzzling jets and plant a few trees to alleviate their guilt.
@mrjohnnyk
@mrjohnnyk Жыл бұрын
Then there's the environmental impact and carbon footprint from producing these electric cars, which is off the scale compared to ICE's.
@rufusgreenleaf2466
@rufusgreenleaf2466 Жыл бұрын
I can't be certain what will happen for vehicles in ten years time but i just hope it becomes easy for everyone. I have fear of waiting in a huge tiresome queue just to charge my car up when filling with petrol just takes a few mins in and out. All the street charging points will be taken and the charging stations will be packed. People will leave theirs on charge after it's done hogging a space for no reason. You'll come home from work and the street outside your home will be filled with random people who don't even live there they just want to charge their car so you'll have to park three streets away. It is a worry, i just hope it can be solved. Also how batteries work in Winter is another worry but the biggest worry for me is supply and demand.
@EXSKIN
@EXSKIN Жыл бұрын
And feral youth cutting cables for a laugh welcome to the EV world. as happens now with railway cable thefts
@stevied6965
@stevied6965 Жыл бұрын
You’ll prob not be working or driving by that time so don’t worry about it.
@rufusgreenleaf2466
@rufusgreenleaf2466 Жыл бұрын
@@stevied6965 Why won't i be working or driving?
@wolvoman1
@wolvoman1 Жыл бұрын
And when those pop up charging points pop up along the street, where do the residents who used to park at that spot, now park ?
@christopherblade5984
@christopherblade5984 Жыл бұрын
That street you walk down to town looks pretty clean to me. In regards to pollution I suggest people try living in Hanoi for a week. You can see the pollution there and many other places. I think UK is very clean.
@winzfeld1
@winzfeld1 Жыл бұрын
UK breaches UN legal pollution levels on a daily basis. Air pollution here is linked to thousands of excess deaths a year. It’s not “Hanoi” levels of pollution but it’s far from clean
@ibs5080
@ibs5080 Жыл бұрын
I'm seriously considering buying another second hand car identical to my current 2009 model, in order to have a backup before they become extinct. Plus having two identical cars makes it easier for spare parts interchangeability plus familiarity with all the controls when switching from one car to the other.
@ConquerDriving
@ConquerDriving Жыл бұрын
In my experience when cars are left to sit things start to go wrong. There are still at least 7 years of new petrol and diesel car sales.
@ibs5080
@ibs5080 Жыл бұрын
@@ConquerDriving Yes very true Richard. I guess it would be a case of alternating use between the two cars in order that they both get relatively frequent use. Interestingly, my Mum has a classic 1978 Mini Clubman owned from new...and it has now sat idle for about three years! I will have to charge up the battery or buy a new one. And I have to wonder how three year old petrol will fare, plus if any mechanicals have either rusted or seized. And now that winter is approaching, the Mini may stay unused for a while longer.
@iandaniels8386
@iandaniels8386 Жыл бұрын
going to do that get 2 motorbikes same model before ban comes in
@paullamkin4062
@paullamkin4062 Жыл бұрын
Interchangeable number plates too.
@ibs5080
@ibs5080 Жыл бұрын
@@paullamkin4062 Now Now!
@itechtalk03
@itechtalk03 Жыл бұрын
Nissan make the Leaf all in the UK I’m correct? And they also have a recycling plant nearby. Which is good to see.
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
Volkswagen and Renault also have battery recycling plants...
@johnburton6984
@johnburton6984 Жыл бұрын
Super breakdown... we'll done ✔️
@turkeyssr
@turkeyssr Жыл бұрын
Great video with a different perspective. You left out one very LARGE point. What amp service does the typical UK home have? In the US you need at least 200 amp service for 1 EV. (The US has 220v to the house and I assume the UK does too) In other words, how will all of the homes be upgraded and lines TO the home upgraded and who is going to pay for that? My home built in 2016 has 200 amp service. Most older homes do not.
@moonbaby6134
@moonbaby6134 Жыл бұрын
I live in a house that is 400 yrs old. The electrical infrastructure is around 50 yrs old and it’s not just me. About 40% of the houses around are in the same position. It’s,as Gunny Highway said, a clusterfuck. !
@StupStups
@StupStups Жыл бұрын
Typical average domestic supply is 60 or 100 amp, and we're 240v in the UK. A 7kW charger draws 32 amps. You've identified the main issue for the electricity network, it's not the overall demand on the grid but feeding the power to individual houses or on-street chargers. Major work needed on the low-voltage network all over the country. And every other country following this policy!
@itechtalk03
@itechtalk03 Жыл бұрын
I would not mind going electric, I personally only do city driving and very rarely do long distance. But the price of an EV is just way off the scale for me at the moment. Shame the government removed the incentives to buy an EV. Secondly if the cost of electricity would stay low or at a fair level then count me in. I would buy one. But these are my current issues and I’m sure I’m not the only one.
@iskindersam7834
@iskindersam7834 Жыл бұрын
It's all a scheme
@zzhughesd
@zzhughesd Жыл бұрын
Richard, thanks , grey area this ban. 2030 / 2035 thing. At moment Truss’s wrecking ball is main agenda. To us Petrol lovers this is just a massive kick in teeth get back to being really angry about once economy starts recovering. And we know where we are
@zzhughesd
@zzhughesd Жыл бұрын
@@markyboy9332 WEP'll be the one
@Journey_Awaits
@Journey_Awaits Жыл бұрын
They want to force all the poor into public transport where you can only go where they want you to, welcome to the future
@oddsandwindsocks5905
@oddsandwindsocks5905 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful and informative video, thankyou,
@iskindersam7834
@iskindersam7834 Жыл бұрын
Why?
@Aatish2k8
@Aatish2k8 Жыл бұрын
And what about us in high rise apartments? We're screwed if we get a flat battery and need to go to work or emergencies. Even if they install 1 or 2, it won't be enough.
@lobstepgaming249
@lobstepgaming249 Жыл бұрын
If they can make electric / hybrid cars affordable in 8 years I’m all for it!
@AverageAlien
@AverageAlien Жыл бұрын
No, fuck off. I will drive whatever I want to drive. The tyrant state will not tell me what I can and can't do. Electric cars are for pussies. They are soulless, bent, restrictive pieces of crap. They will never replace ICE cars. They will never compete. I don't want to drive some horrible, boring, quiet, plastic, chinese, killswitch having, government remote controlled toy.
@thatslegit
@thatslegit Жыл бұрын
i highly doubt it useless the whole world suffers a great depression
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
Why wait 8 years? I've seen used EV's on sale at £6k........
@888SpinR
@888SpinR Жыл бұрын
A note on hydrogen, it's a good way for a country with a huge surplus of energy to export it, and it could be useful for HGVs that need the range and can't afford to sit around waiting for a battery to charge. 5x the number of fuel pumps for 20% of the cars on the road means they would need to charge vehicles at most up to 25x the time it takes to refuel a petrol/diesel car to be equally efficient, according to my back of the envelope calculations. But I think that misses the problem that 300,000 charging points is potentially 300,000 public parking spaces lost. Honestly, reducing the number of cars is probably the best long term solution.
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
No it won't, because 80% of EV owners will charge at home. Only 18% of EV owners use public charging on a regular basis.....
@888SpinR
@888SpinR Жыл бұрын
​@@Brian-om2hh A good statistic, but you're incorrect on at least two accounts. The early adopters of EVs are the ones more likely to be able to charge at home, because why not? I'd sell my car for an EV in a heartbeat if I could charge at home too. You can't scale up the numbers and expect the ratio to stay the same. And secondly, yes you will have to lose 300,000 public parking spaces, because you can't charge your car unless you're parked, and you can't park if some petrol car is parked there already. That space isn't going to appear out of thin air, so it will come from existing space.
@thrupnybit
@thrupnybit 10 ай бұрын
Interesting experiment. My style tends to be to accelerate quickly through the gears at middling revs (three to four thousand RPM) to the posted limit. I reset the average MPG at each oil change and to quick mental calculation at fuel refills. When the car was new, i.e. the first year, I was averaging 42mpg (US) well above EPA fuel economy estimates. Now the car is over three years old that overall average has fallen to about 40.6mpg. I do go to the redline on rare occasions.
@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 Жыл бұрын
A fair assessment of the situation wrt to the ban on new fossil car sales. Good job. One of the questions around charging and not having off road parking is ‘what do you use your car for?’....going to work? going shopping?....We did a quick survey recently in the Kia e-Niro owners group UK (Facebook)...there are about 2,500 members now. Half of those responding could plug in while they were at work, some others said their employer had plans to make charging available for employees and visitors...the cost to an employer as a benefit in kind (BIK) is the cost of a cup of coffee per day...your employer doesn’t even need to invest in a 7 Kw AC charger, just an outside 13A socket with an IP64 rated cover on it. On an 8 hour shift that will add 50 miles of range to a typical EV ,more than enough for the average UK car commute (18 miles). I know EV owners who live in apartments and do their charging while they are at work or at the supermarket, everyone goes shopping at some point! Confession time...I am a Brit living a retired life in rural France, last year I did 75% of my driving (15,000 km) from the 8 solar panels on my roof...getting an EV is expensive but running one costs peanuts compared to buying fossil fuels, not to mention the servicing costs...oil changes and all that nonsense which is no longer needed on an EV....as EVs age and get into the second hand market more people will realise that they also last a lot longer than an ICE powered vehicle which needs constant maintenance...having run old bangers many times in my life I know how it is...the fuel pump goes, then the starter motor, the cam belt needs changing, then the water pump, the coil pack..etc.etc....fossil cars are so complicated with thousands of moving parts and subsystems...the beauty of EVs is their simplicity and with simplicity comes reliability and durability
@ConquerDriving
@ConquerDriving Жыл бұрын
What you're saying is true. I would guess there are many Niro drivers charging at work because they were aware that they would be able to which was one of the reasons they bought the car. I don't think anywhere near 50% of the population can charge at work. My other half would like an electric car and I would like solar panels as you have, but given where we live, we can't have either. We can't charge at home and there are no local and reliable fast chargers, even if there were, at 50-70p per kWh, her Diesel which does about 14p per mile on diesel is cheaper. That's 14p per mile even with diesel prices at 180 pence per litre.
@AppleUK2000
@AppleUK2000 Жыл бұрын
Good video. I refuse to buy an electric car. Until it is the same price, has the same mileage, can be recharged in the same time it takes to refill a petrol car; I will continue to buy ICE cars
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
Then your wait is over! New MG4 £26k New mid spec petrol Astra, Focus or Golf £27k.......... Just charge on cheap rate while you sleep. You *have* to sleep, so it's the best time to charge. It's also around 8 or 9 times cheaper than buying petrol.
@EXSKIN
@EXSKIN Жыл бұрын
@@Brian-om2hh Not the same time as refilling an ICE is it if you have to do it over night . petrol station 5 minute fill up back home sleep cars full when I get up
@mrpotz2479
@mrpotz2479 Жыл бұрын
it's not even off street parking, think of Student houses, or general HMOs where you've got multiple people in 1 house. I'm in a HMO, and while I can park by the house, I can't charge there unless I run an extention chord out the window
@sladehelicoptersgaming3148
@sladehelicoptersgaming3148 Жыл бұрын
How do you charge an electric car during a black out ??
@DanM321
@DanM321 Жыл бұрын
I think in theory it's a good idea but the batteries is the main problem, if you look at a graph how much CO2 an electric makes compared to a petrol the electric starts off higher due to mining for the the lithium and etc, average batterys will take more damage over time eg if ur towing or going fast? So they will need to be replaced and that is pricey, I think an eco fuel is the way
@nothingmuch.3014
@nothingmuch.3014 Жыл бұрын
The majority of people do not drive an EV far enough, to offset the additional pollution caused in the production of that vehicle. And we still can't efficiently recycle lithium batteries on a large scale.
@DanM321
@DanM321 Жыл бұрын
@@nothingmuch.3014 Yeah, I see the problems, I do understand why we are choosing electric but why can't we just use eco fuels ? Like we already have the eingines so why mine for batteries it doesn't make sense?
@leo_warren
@leo_warren Жыл бұрын
@@DanM321 The current issue with eco fuels is that we need to actively make them out of CO2 to be neutral, otherwise we are just releasing more CO2.
@scottcolpitts8521
@scottcolpitts8521 Жыл бұрын
@@leo_warren I think the point is to use the co2 in the atmosphere using renewable energy for the process. Thus making it carbon neutral. Still very expensive at this point in time.
@ajstevens1652
@ajstevens1652 Жыл бұрын
@@DanM321 It's just a matter of scale. Eco fuels would be more environmentally beneficial than Battery Electric vehicles, however Eco fuels have not been produced in sufficient scale yet. That day however, will likely come.
@kapilbusawah7169
@kapilbusawah7169 Жыл бұрын
As a car enthusiast, I rally behind cyclist and public transport because it means less congestion on the road which means less traffic and a better experience of being a driver 😊
@unamed_user902
@unamed_user902 Жыл бұрын
hahahah
@jasongoulden2938
@jasongoulden2938 Жыл бұрын
Speak for yourself On yer bike then lol
@martinliu5480
@martinliu5480 Жыл бұрын
Well, not really. You’ll end up being stuck behind a cyclist because there would be more on the road. I mean, look at Vietnam on their mopeds. They are all over the road.
@EXSKIN
@EXSKIN Жыл бұрын
As a car enthusiast, your not really are you, you're just a bus wanker lol
@phils2180
@phils2180 Жыл бұрын
The total ban of all petrol and diesel vehicles is decades away. I've never bought a new car in my life so I really couldn't give a toss about the 2030 ban on new sales.
@pauldavies198
@pauldavies198 Жыл бұрын
Points about managing use of electricity from national grid particularly interesting, also about second hand car prices - you can imagine if high end ICE cars suddenly are unavailable new the price of nearly new will skyrocket - drive a high end new petrol Porsche off the forecourt on Dec 31st 2029 and on 1st Jan 2030 it might be worth 1/3 more
@Jer0nim0
@Jer0nim0 Жыл бұрын
2:22 "The government predict............." That's OK then. For a moment there I thought it would never happen. 🤣
@Ca18detEnjoyer
@Ca18detEnjoyer Жыл бұрын
Came to comment that, Being south african I can never trust a large organization that use the word "predict" in almost all their sentences.
@lezhu6856
@lezhu6856 Жыл бұрын
With regards to hydrogen, it can be cheap and plentiful if you make it out of fossil fuels (Steam Reformation, accounting for 95% of H production). That's why oil companies like Shell are pushing hydrogen so much. I like hydrogen cars somewhat; the Hyundai N Vision looks sick. But hydrogen cars will never be as environmentally sustainable as battery electric.
@ConquerDriving
@ConquerDriving Жыл бұрын
I don't know the CO2 output of a car fuelled by hydrogen which is sourced from natural gas. Would be interesting to know.
@hugohabicht6274
@hugohabicht6274 Жыл бұрын
@@ConquerDriving absolutely none. If a car is using pure hydrogen, this hydrogen 2(h2) will react with oxygen (o2), which results in 2(H2O), which is pure water
@TheJoaoSM
@TheJoaoSM Жыл бұрын
he means considering the CO2 output from the natural gas used to refine the Hydrogen
@maalikserebryakov
@maalikserebryakov Жыл бұрын
@@hugohabicht6274 thats still producing hydrogen
@leo_warren
@leo_warren Жыл бұрын
@Le Zhu The difference between battery and hydrogen fuel cell may converge in the future as batteries require lithium and cobalt, both of which are finite, compared to a hydrogen store, which with the correct design and materials will outperform a battery as the surface area: volume rapidly decreases. The issue still remains to find the correct materials to store hydrogen.
@Avelx
@Avelx Жыл бұрын
Also its worth mentioning the towing of large caravans for example really reduces the range massively and performs much worse than traditional turbo diesel
@SimonAmazingClarke
@SimonAmazingClarke Жыл бұрын
An excellent and well balanced video. There are a few thing that I think are worth mentioning. It's not just the UK that is banning ICE cars but most of Europe and parts of America. Other parts of the world will follow suit. As well as cars this ban will affect Lorries and Busses, not sure of the timings on those. Additional in 2030 diesel trains, new ones, will no longer be allowed.
@stuartevans6807
@stuartevans6807 Жыл бұрын
I honestly think you wont be able to buy a non ev by 2035. Not because of the ban but because the manufacturers wont be able to sell enough to keep the production lines going. The technology is there now, price parity is around the corner and if you consider total cost of ownership why pay more for ice?
@dikshant899
@dikshant899 Жыл бұрын
I love manual cars 😍
@Tensquaremetreworkshop
@Tensquaremetreworkshop Жыл бұрын
A gearbox is a poor fix for a design flaw- the atrocious power curve of an IC engine. In a BEV they are non-existent, not automatic.
@sqarefox3928
@sqarefox3928 Жыл бұрын
@@Tensquaremetreworkshop But manual is fun. Automatic is boring (I guess DSG in manual mode is somewhat OK) and no gearbox is even more boring
@Tensquaremetreworkshop
@Tensquaremetreworkshop Жыл бұрын
@@sqarefox3928 It is transport. If you wish to engage in pointless activity for fun, can I suggest a computer game?
@sqarefox3928
@sqarefox3928 Жыл бұрын
@@Tensquaremetreworkshop Jesus christ computer games lmao. Some people love shifting gears just like some like playing football. It's the same. You wouldn't tell basketball player to go play bowling instead. There are people who consider cars more than A to B means of transport. Those are car enthusiasts - so you are saying that all of those people should rather sit behind a pc lmao ok sure
@Tensquaremetreworkshop
@Tensquaremetreworkshop Жыл бұрын
@@sqarefox3928 I repeat- gearboxes were a ( poor) workaround for a major failing in IC engines for road transport. EVs do not have this problem. I am sure there were cries of woe when the buggy whip was rendered pointless too. Do you want the advance/retard lever brought back? The choke control? Don’t live in the past…
@aalove1520
@aalove1520 Жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about emf readings on EVs??? Please ! Your reviews are the only one i see reliable on youtube..thank you!
@JoeDoylePhotographer
@JoeDoylePhotographer Жыл бұрын
I was wondering how long it would take to dig up the footpath for five different suppliers like as is the case with lightning fibre. Realistically the grid won’t cope with charging cars etc.
@timsmith5339
@timsmith5339 Жыл бұрын
It will cope because the demand on the grid will be more balanced. Even if we don't install battery storage on the grid (which is happening), all those electric cars plugged into it make one humungous storage capacity. If only 10% of battery cars are plugged in and only 2% of their capacity is utilised to balance the grid then the peak capacity is no longer the concern, only the average demand. I know it sounds counter intuitive and you are probably shouting that if you plug your electric car in, it is because you want it to charge, not balance the grid. As an electric car user myself I can explain. I plug in when I get home from work two or three nights a week but set the timer to charge during the night at cheap rate. This means that my battery is connected to the grid at peak time and can be used to balance the demand. I could also make money by doing this as I can buy when its cheap and sell it back when it's at its most expensive. Win Win.
@HyunAOP
@HyunAOP Жыл бұрын
electric cars eh
@mhoward181
@mhoward181 Жыл бұрын
uk population is 67 million. 0.5% = 335,000. You carnt complete with spending a few min to fuel up at A petrol station
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
Petrol stations can't compete with the convenience of filling up at home while you sleep, for around 80% less cost than buying petrol...... You *have* to sleep, so it's the best time to charge.
@mhoward181
@mhoward181 Жыл бұрын
@@Brian-om2hh unfortunately you are giving up a lot of control for not much gain. Also I wonder how enthusiastic you would be if it was ur kids being sent down a mine to get the cobolt.
@EXSKIN
@EXSKIN Жыл бұрын
@@Brian-om2hh Yes they can the open 24/7 takes 5 mins,
@CortinasAndClassics
@CortinasAndClassics Жыл бұрын
My concern. What if on street chargers stop working or are vandalised. Or the charge cables are stolen? From what I have read there is a problem getting lithium for the electric car batteries. And replacement battery costs. And now the energy crisis has pushed the price up.
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
Newer chargers have no cable attached, and have only a socket. You use your own charge cable to charge up. There is no problem getting lithium. There is plenty. And you do not necessarily need to replace the battery. You can have it repaired and refurbished... And the cost to charge an EV at home hasn't increased.
@CortinasAndClassics
@CortinasAndClassics Жыл бұрын
@@Brian-om2hh erm electricity prices have increased across the board.
Жыл бұрын
Did you count how much you have to drive with an electric vehicle if the battery manufacturing produces 10-15 tons of CO2e compared to a
@sphenesounds
@sphenesounds Жыл бұрын
Carbon tax is a tax on you, a carbon based lifeform. "you will own nothing, and you will be happy" - The World Economic Forum
@rga7482
@rga7482 Жыл бұрын
This electric car is outrageous. It's a big fake and the people don't understand it. What car is that you need another engine for charge the battery? "Hybrid" car, it's a same.
@MARTINA-gc3tq
@MARTINA-gc3tq Жыл бұрын
Can you imagine the power cuts at night when everyone plugs in their electric cars? I’m sure solar panels don’t work well at night and wind only blows at the right speed half of the year.
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
Er, won't happen. It seems you don't understand that most EV owners have off-peak charging tariffs, which offer much cheaper rates during the night hours. These usually begin at 11pm or later, and allow you 4 or 5 hours at a around a quarter of the cost of the daytime rate. If you read and understand what the National Grid are proposing, you'll see that any power outages will take place from 4pm up until 7pm, which is the peak period. Therefore EV charging during the night hours, when demand is at it's lowest, will not be affected......
@MARTINA-gc3tq
@MARTINA-gc3tq Жыл бұрын
@@Brian-om2hh you really shouldn’t drink on an empty head.
@clivepierce1816
@clivepierce1816 Жыл бұрын
A well thought out piece. On a personal note, there seems to be a growing polarisation between those who already drive EVs and are familiar with complementary tech such as ToU energy tariffs, solar PV, domestic batteries and heat pumps, and those who, through no fault of their own, have not been exposed to, or cannot afford to invest in these technologies. We run our EV and house for just several hundred pounds a year, using a combination of solar PV, domestic battery storage and an air source heat pump. Okay, there was a significant upfront investment, but at recent energy prices, the payback time is less than five years and the savings amount to thousands of pounds each year. Our EV is a cheap, secondhand Nissan Leaf which, contrary to all the criticism, has been entirely reliable on short and long journeys alike, and is ridiculously cheap to maintain and run - over the past two years it has cost us an average of 1.5 pence per mile.
@iskindersam7834
@iskindersam7834 Жыл бұрын
Clive you are wrong. It's not well put
@logicalluke
@logicalluke Жыл бұрын
One thing you didn't mention is electric vehicle retrofits/ petrol car conversions to electric. Do you think this is something that will take off in a big way? Is it economically viable? Or not worth the hassle?
@ConquerDriving
@ConquerDriving Жыл бұрын
I think there will be more retrofits but I don't think it would be a significant segment of the market. Mostly for enthusiasts.
@ghunt9146
@ghunt9146 Жыл бұрын
​@@ConquerDriving some classic cars are being converted but it costs more than most of them are worth& the range is 100 miles max. Not viable in my opinion.
@cannaroe1213
@cannaroe1213 Жыл бұрын
Great video, and I love that you plugged synthetic fuels, but I would have appreciated a nod towards the other benefit of biodiesel/LPG, which is that if produced from agricultural feedstock, waste cooking oil, algal reactors etc, then it's the only fuel that has a negative CO2 emission as it's getting it's carbon from the atmosphere to begin with.
@ConquerDriving
@ConquerDriving Жыл бұрын
The trouble with synthetic fuels is efficiency, it takes a lot of green electricity, many more times per mile driven than charging a battery.
@cannaroe1213
@cannaroe1213 Жыл бұрын
​@@ConquerDriving Ah, that's a good point, if the source is the sun and the air then that's one thing, but if theres money to be made using high power lights, pumps, fans, whatever, then you're right, we might as well burn the coal directly :P
@Tailspin80
@Tailspin80 Жыл бұрын
I question the need for transport in all its forms. When you look at the journeys you make how many are really necessary? So much can be done online/remotely (eg work, shopping, entertainment, education) it makes you wonder why the roads are still full to bursting with people frantically trying to move their physical body from A to B.
@xracer5995
@xracer5995 Жыл бұрын
Duly noted. Keep those ideas there mate 😳
@stevenwatson3963
@stevenwatson3963 Жыл бұрын
The "liars in the massive houses in London", are the problem
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