Will these players make the All Blacks team this summer? | The Breakdown

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@brianwahinya1245
@brianwahinya1245 7 ай бұрын
How Havili is even in these conversations baffles me to no end..he's been HORRENDOUS for years!! And this year he's gone up a level, in being a shite player. Nothing against him as person, I'm sure he's probably a stand up guy, but there's too many better options
@Johnmcdonald2109
@Johnmcdonald2109 7 ай бұрын
Havili will probably play better under his old coach. I still agree though, he didn’t play well this season😂😂
@demokkore895
@demokkore895 7 ай бұрын
Havili should be anywhere near the jersey this year!
@feijoatree
@feijoatree 7 ай бұрын
Wow. Imagine being DMac and hearing news that NZR want to get Richie back. Hopefully Richie says no, NZR needs to have faith in the future and double down on Dmac and Perofeta.
@TrystaneTheBlack
@TrystaneTheBlack 7 ай бұрын
Honestly I think it'd be a waste of money and effort to bring Richie back... in Super Rugby Richie used a lot of short attacking kicks or runs from inside the 22 instead of clearing which worked for the Crusaders but when he came up against more defensively sound international teams it just resulted in losing possession in unfavourable positions not to mention his goal kicking which again was great for the crusaders but somehow 50/50 in the black jersey. I completely agree that NZR need to start focusing on Dmac and Perofeta because Richie was given basically free reign in that black jersey and it just never materialized and I'm done listening to Crusader fans claiming he's the best thing since sliced bread.
@andreweggeltonpresenting
@andreweggeltonpresenting 7 ай бұрын
You would prefer DMac in a tight game against South Africa? Seriously now. We have seen Richie step up against the greatest foe but I wouldn’t trust any current NZ 1st five in the big games, they’re so far from world class it is clear why Razor wants some overseas players. Interesting how the best players and coaches, analysts say we need him back but the common tv watcher thinks we’re fine
@Trajan2401
@Trajan2401 7 ай бұрын
​​@@andreweggeltonpresentingwe didn't even do that for Carter and Mounga is no Carter he had the chance to win the game in the final with a missed kick he would normally get that's the difference between Mounga and greatness great players perform when it really matters Mounga had ample time 2 world cups which we didn't win and only a handful of good games for the AB.s
@andreweggeltonpresenting
@andreweggeltonpresenting 7 ай бұрын
@@Trajan2401 remind me again how many world cups it took Carter to win a final? I would say Richie kept us in that final and he definitely was a key player getting us past the quarter final. The guy is the greatest super rugby player ever, without doubt the GOAT and I believe he could have taken that to elite level if he had of had a world class coach in the All Blacks. Foster had a rare ability to turn great players into average. As an example, look at what Penny has done to the great Crusader players.
@TrystaneTheBlack
@TrystaneTheBlack 7 ай бұрын
@@andreweggeltonpresenting Step up? you mean the guy who always aimlessly kicks away possession or tries to attack from within the 10 instead of clearing it? You're getting his Crusaders form confused with his AB's because I don't remember any game he stepped up lol
@silviabonic5589
@silviabonic5589 7 ай бұрын
You are the All Blacks jajjajaja you dont need anyone... in a few weeks you make a super player!!! love from ARG
@silviabonic5589
@silviabonic5589 7 ай бұрын
you can win the world cup no matter the players...
@Edgycoo
@Edgycoo 7 ай бұрын
good work in the sevens
@silviabonic5589
@silviabonic5589 7 ай бұрын
@@Edgycoo tkank you nice to hear from a big borother in Rugby!!!
@tainecraig4468
@tainecraig4468 7 ай бұрын
@@silviabonic5589q
@STEOKEO
@STEOKEO 7 ай бұрын
You need versatile players for a World Cup campaign. You don’t need versatile players in the first camp of a 4 year cycle.
@majediejaptha15
@majediejaptha15 7 ай бұрын
Would love to see a guy like Rameka Poihipi get a call up
@MurrayLeckie
@MurrayLeckie 7 ай бұрын
Razor will pick McLeod as he can play 12 ,13 or wing !
@MrFwelthagen
@MrFwelthagen 7 ай бұрын
I suggest asking Rassie for his opinion 😂
@rubendutoit586
@rubendutoit586 7 ай бұрын
Coke snorting cry baby Rassie? Never heard of her
@artetaDagoat
@artetaDagoat 7 ай бұрын
Easy to talk big when your up. We will catch you. We will overtake you.
@SoaaJr
@SoaaJr 7 ай бұрын
no way ge will tell them to kick goals abd vecome soccer players😂
@rubendutoit586
@rubendutoit586 7 ай бұрын
@@SoaaJr don't forget to act like soccer players and pretend to be hurt just for a review, or take a knee every 5 minutes to catch a breath and slow down the game.
@donnybrascocoliogne819
@donnybrascocoliogne819 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 We don't need others telling us KIWIS how to pick our own. We coming for you Bokkes 👊
@thefiasshow
@thefiasshow 7 ай бұрын
Damn NZR main problem is player drain. They can't compete with the big boys with the big bucks (Europe & Japan).
@fariedmanuel
@fariedmanuel 7 ай бұрын
Rieko should be going back to wing where he belongs and can make the biggest impact
@freddietrich825
@freddietrich825 7 ай бұрын
Why don't NZ just start picking overseas players like other countries do
@andrewcoughlan420
@andrewcoughlan420 7 ай бұрын
Build the team around Dmac, big forwards game and that old school NZ point if difference with dmac leading the backs.
@Scrotomus
@Scrotomus 7 ай бұрын
Why the hell would we keep picking Ioane at centre? He has been completely ineffective and does not play centre well. Ioane should be back on wing full stop. It’s worrying that all these centres they want to pick are wingers fullbacks who can’t break the line
@artetaDagoat
@artetaDagoat 7 ай бұрын
He's the best centre in NZ by a mile. You're narrative is from a few years ago. Keep up
@Scrotomus
@Scrotomus 7 ай бұрын
@@artetaDagoat lol the best centre by a mile? His stats are the worst almost for any centre in super rugby. I think you’ll find he won’t be picked at centre under Robinson. But you keep licking his bum buddy
@filthymutt6029
@filthymutt6029 7 ай бұрын
It was just about getting the best players on the field. Telea, Jordan, and Reece are all brilliant wingers so Rieko doesn't need to play wing. At centre, ALB was very average coming off his injuries last year, and Proctor was inexperienced. You'd rather drop ALB than Telea or Jordan, surely?
@Scrotomus
@Scrotomus 7 ай бұрын
@@artetaDagoat your “best centre by a mile” just got owned by crusaders midfield sitting bottom of the table. Still hasn’t scored a point all season and barely any metres made 👍 try keep up buddy
@artetaDagoat
@artetaDagoat 7 ай бұрын
@@Scrotomus I'm a Hurricanes fan. Blues can get stuffed champ. Plus, you're a casual. He's just come back from concussion and played half the game. You need to keep up. Frigging clown, lol
@rosaliatuihalangingie5322
@rosaliatuihalangingie5322 6 ай бұрын
yes richie mounga and shanon frizel should come back for the ALL BLACKS TEAM AT ANYTIME
@elhefe808
@elhefe808 7 ай бұрын
Based on performance, could the NZRU save money by combining the two SI teams to help funding for the likes of Ritchie mouanga?
@rowansps
@rowansps 7 ай бұрын
Team selection and chemistry has been poor to pathetic for a long time, if you consider the amazing standards of All Black rugby.
@drumsandstix128
@drumsandstix128 7 ай бұрын
Its time NZ Rugby woke up to the commercial reality that top players can earn much more than NZ Rugby want to pay. Its simple economics; the NZ dollar is worth FA in the world market. Why wouldnt some one with an unknown fitness capacity be willing to accept two or three times less just to play in the ABs? It might be honourable but it makes no commercial sense.
@Edgycoo
@Edgycoo 7 ай бұрын
you have to make your name before you have any worth overseas. A 2-3 season all black will make much much more overseas. You are actually cutting yourself short NOT playing for the all blacks.
@drumsandstix128
@drumsandstix128 7 ай бұрын
@@Edgycoo Thats why I made the point about the unknown fitness capacity. Those guys who are not sure if they can continue at that elite level would take more money for doing less.
@donnybrascocoliogne819
@donnybrascocoliogne819 7 ай бұрын
Billy Procter is a MUST. Hes proven he can put on the A.B jersey 👍 Great player and ill pick him over David Havili. J.K is terrible at Coaching Italy and the Blues, better as a player, so thanks but NO THANKS J.K for your thoughts 😂
@theresaswartz7484
@theresaswartz7484 7 ай бұрын
Why want players back that left for money. I have tremendous respect for Macaw who never left his country to play for any other country. As a die hard All Black fan give players that play domestic the chance to be selected. Remember that guys get older.
@mkg5048
@mkg5048 7 ай бұрын
Richie Mounga surely partially left because Foster did not give him the keys and kept the Barretts involved and not letting him drive the ship
@JustNate365
@JustNate365 7 ай бұрын
9 not sold (Roigard wouldve been nice) 10 DMac 11 Telea 12 Barrett 13 Ioane 14 Reece 15 Barrett (Jordan would be nice 😪) 21 Fakatava 22 Havilli 23 Proctor (be keen to see him and Reiko on the field together) Finishers B Barrett in to 10, Ioane to wing, Havilli and Proctor in to the centres, one of the wingers stay on and Jordy finishes at FB. (10) B. Barrett (11) Ioane (12) Havilli (13) Proctor (14) Reece/Telea (15) J. Barrett
@artetaDagoat
@artetaDagoat 7 ай бұрын
If Beaudens not getting picked who's 15 then in your opinion? P.s. I would pick same as you did
@JustNate365
@JustNate365 7 ай бұрын
@@artetaDagoat its tough, theres alot to like with Love and Seturo, but still early days. Id prob go Jordie to the back and one of Havilli, Tupaea or Proctor (not likely just yet) in at 12.
@artetaDagoat
@artetaDagoat 7 ай бұрын
@@JustNate365 Nice. I would throw caution to the wind and go for Stevenson because I like attacking specialist fullbacks. Would have Jordan at FB if everyone was fit, though. Def Roigard 9
@MeiA-h9r
@MeiA-h9r 7 ай бұрын
What’s the feeling in NZ surrounding the All Blacks this season? Cos there gonna be some new faces in there, a little inexperience across the side
@timmado8441
@timmado8441 7 ай бұрын
Tbh i think we will lose more games than people expect which is okay. Im not expecting razor to come out firing he will probably just be more focused on getting players up to international than winning games
@chucktee8088
@chucktee8088 7 ай бұрын
The goal is the world cup. Gotta get the new guys experience to be ready in 3 years time. The losses will be great learning experience.
@jordannangwala4608
@jordannangwala4608 7 ай бұрын
What!! QT is far better than proctor
@artetaDagoat
@artetaDagoat 7 ай бұрын
People have short memories
@KLM7394
@KLM7394 7 ай бұрын
Afford him? What's up with that? Sponsorship etc? Dude. Sounds like NZRU is so back in the 90s.
@user-ym5dm9xd5w
@user-ym5dm9xd5w 7 ай бұрын
Havilli aint no 10. Hes 13 at best. The way to win is to have the best player in every position first. Then look at cover. And you need to select the form players. Not the status quo. That makes the other work harder to keep their spot. Lets not make the mistakes of the past by playing players out of position. Sorry JK your not the best selector. Just look at JKs Blues. They were rubbish under JK.
@user-ym5dm9xd5w
@user-ym5dm9xd5w 7 ай бұрын
Theres heaps of awesome players in New Zealand....Choose Kiwi players in New Zealand. Reward patriotisim.
@khankake9576
@khankake9576 7 ай бұрын
Summer? The All Blacks play during the winter.
@danmcgivern4057
@danmcgivern4057 7 ай бұрын
Northern hemisphere based channel
@christopherminto8209
@christopherminto8209 7 ай бұрын
Damien McKenzie Brett Cameron Beauden Barrett We don’t “need” Richie. Nice to have, yes. Need to have, no.
@nicobarnard5807
@nicobarnard5807 7 ай бұрын
Pick overseas All Blacks.
@RT-far-T
@RT-far-T 7 ай бұрын
Havili can't be a 10 for the ABs. He's a disaster for the Saders at 10.
@KiwiPepega
@KiwiPepega 7 ай бұрын
Ioane, ALB, Jordie and Proctor is all we need. Havili is not it. He's just, not, it.
@edawg5149
@edawg5149 7 ай бұрын
We need richie! Point blank.. Bring the king home👑
@nepiahemopo1702
@nepiahemopo1702 7 ай бұрын
He'll be in a walking frame, come the next RWC! 😂😂
@Trajan2401
@Trajan2401 7 ай бұрын
Overrated.
@massiveantnz
@massiveantnz 7 ай бұрын
Bunch of punishers this lot
@adamdestecroix5280
@adamdestecroix5280 7 ай бұрын
Mils cannot articulate himself. Kirwan is an egomaniac.
@MrAhuapai
@MrAhuapai 7 ай бұрын
Bring back TJ
@vincentlawson3794
@vincentlawson3794 7 ай бұрын
Havili is trash. He shouldn't even be mentioned in the conversation. Hes good at super level he folds under pressure at All Black level.
@usersnotbristle
@usersnotbristle 7 ай бұрын
Caleb Clarke should play 12
@jordannangwala4608
@jordannangwala4608 7 ай бұрын
9- Christie 10- Dmac 11 Telea 12-Quinn Tupaea 13-Anton LB 14-Sevu Reece 15- Jordie Barrett
@edgaraniku6054
@edgaraniku6054 7 ай бұрын
Christie?😂
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