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[@PaulieShortcuts]

If the Chinese is allowed to fly surveillance air balloons over military bases, I should be allowed to fly a dji over a state beach.

[@gammagonad1657]

It must be classified as a “national park”. For example, it’s just like you are able to fly here in any of the Arkansas “state parks”, but the DJI sky tripods won’t even take off in any “national” parks.

[@PaulieShortcuts]

@@gammagonad1657 commiefornia

[@w.r2845]

it was not china it was united states! wow people do have narrow minds. you think they leave Chinese writing on balloons they fly over hear? and why would they need that we give them info. this is more then dji this is to get the foot in the door to ban gas cars and more. oh did Elon Musk coming out with cell phone hmm lets ban cell phones next so he can make more money. more to all this then just dji ban next be cars as most parts come from china way to make us buy ev cars. isnt that nice how the goverment works . china is way more avanced then we will ever be... we ban china from importing we are over we dont make a thing and we depend on everyone elses they pushing ev cars.but the lithium come from other country isnt that great we cant stand on are own.

[@Bubblyhiccups]

Build your own like the old days of FPV. Can’t be hacked, no software updates and zero control over how you use your property. 👍

[@w.r2845]

why not just change out the main board and fly it ?

[@inoc805]

When a country goes through lengths to ban a company like DJI with such a huge customer base, believe that a conflict is coming.

[@youzrnaim]

I think banning TikTok would have a larger impact on protecting our data and privacy than banning DJI.

[@landonscott247]

yes sirrrrrrrrrrr im all for banning tik tok

[@appslagu4704]

when you said like that.. you just assume your top tech company like Oracle is weak on ensuring security.. IT IS ORACLE we talk about the Top World Company who observe and secure the Data... there is no breaching data and so on .. its all about propaganda and freedom of information .. too much freedomis danger

[@Lolpopi8547]

Yea, my dance videos that I post publicly are definitely important to hide from the Chinese.

[@godzillacat1291]

​@@Lolpopi8547 no just access to the data of your interactions to every single piece of content you see. The ability to build a profile of what your political beliefs might be, what triggers you may have, what things you might be acceptable or open to, along with access to an algorithm to supply you directly content tailored to whatever agenda they might please. Spread that across 148 million people across the US and you have quite the powerful tool

[@0waverunner0]

@@godzillacat1291 if you think for a second that tic tok is the only thing doing that, oh buddy. you might wanna strap in before you go looking...

[@Carguyforlife]

This shit happened in the 80's with Japanese motorcycles. The Japanese were making better, more dependable and more affordable bikes than Harley was, so Harley went and got strict regulations put on Japanese bikes. That's something America has gotten good at, banning stuff.

[@jaxturner7288]

They were import tariffs. And American companies lobbying politicians for tariffs on imported competitors products is a socially acceptable daily occurrence. That used to be something worth worrying about. Now foreign companies lobby OUR government to pass legislation allowing them to do things like sell dangerous and counterfeit products, buy American land and water rights, have foreign run experimental medical laboratories in our cities and such. Our government taxing Japanese motorcycles over 700cc for a few years is like crying about the milk your grandpa spilled in the spring of 88’ while watching your daughter’s only fans. 😂

[@Hopelesswanderer81]

With a criminal law degree and knowing the “system”. Sad to see how hobbiest learn just how NOT FREE Merica really is……

[@71wiked]

The Republicans have all gone nuts!! Lmao

[@FDB-]

I have a home-built quad, as well as a DJI Air 2S. But my opinion has always been: where’s the American equivalent??? I’d be happy to buy one if it existed. Where’s all the American ingenuity?? A year later I’m still waiting

[@richdavis9789]

The Magnavox Odyssey was the first video game console, released in 1972. We had one, remember it fondly!

[@dondupuis4007]

Dji has got us to buy over and over again, and re-invested.

[@MaxSMoke777]

Maybe if the US wasn't a Drone-Hating country, we'd have more drone makers. Who wants to invest money in tech that is always on the verge of being banned??

[@mxracingunlimitedltd7784]

Yea and the USA is mad that DJI is able to keep upgrading their drone's & R&D Budgets, etc. From the US customer base continuing to buy them over the years. Which in reality doesnt help the USA, but its really a business/politic thing. The USA wants people to buy american drone companies so that they will be basically be forced to upgrade their products for years to even catch up..

[@Echo22WC]

​@@mxracingunlimitedltd7784 wow, look at these people finally understanding capitalism....you don't spend your money on bad company....bad company goes away....I'm SO SICK of people begging daddy government to make their decisions for them.

[@MCsCreations]

The issue is the people writing the checks. They want to spend the less possible.

[@georgeshafik3281]

Why can you not fly drones between a certain time slot? Politicians are not known for thinking they are known for answering to the vocal masses which puts drone communities at a significant disadvantage.

[@kurtzFPV]

Someone's bribing, I mean lobbying so they don't have to compete. Not only businesses hurt, but a lot of first responder and SAR stuff too, which could mean loss of lives.

[@FPV2w]

anyone can make a drone - it's not hard...maybe now we won't have to buy anymore cheap stuff from the Chinese! JB will have to do something else with his life, because he counts on these communists to pay him off so he can sell gear to people...and then tell them how to fix them since they are cheap and always break lol.. jb is the biggest fraud in drones...he knows it too.

[@somebodyspecific2410]

Alright but which American competitor to DJI is doing it then? That makes far more sense when you are working from the dominant position. DJI is the dominant drone company, they have the most money in the space and could lobby and/or bribe far more effectively.

[@kurtzFPV]

@@somebodyspecific2410 I"m not sure which company or companies. They don't have to be US companies or even a consumer drone company. Just a company not in China. It could even be a defense contractor not yet in the market. Since DJI makes commercial drones as well, any company trying to restrict their sale wouldn't necessarily have to produce consumer drones. They might want the restriction to compete in the commercial space and the loss of the consumer side might just be collateral damage. As for DJI being in the dominant position-I'm sure DJI would hate to lose the business, but they may not be willing to spend the dollars in lobbying necessary to keep it. Maybe they figure they could just continue selling to everyone else in the world besides the US.

[@jefefpv1695]

This DJI ban proposal by our government has no basis for it, other than politics. The same holds true for RID. Where’s the safety studies and any linkage of RID to safely operating RC aircraft and drones.

[@adcraziness1501]

REMEMBER, this is all to clear the skies for commercial drone delivery. It has nothing to do with anything other than that. Once viewed through that lens, it makes perfect sense.

[@sUASNews]

Ummm DJI has not been around as long as you think but yes they are very good at what they do. 3DR and DJI had the same tech at the same time, DJI were better at marketing. If you think blue is bad, green is worse. Thats the list for everyone else.

[@SanneBerkhuizen]

I've spoken with a proper ethical hacker. DJI communicates way more stuff to their server than we can imagine. he said. That's why they developed some middleware to secure a lot of important data. But DJI is data hungry. I can imagine counties not liking them.

[@Braddeman]

oh no! what a tragedy. it sends back a lot of telemetry data with a few pictures on launch from the camera. what an invasion of privacy. your talking to someone who has looked at this as well. not sure what they can do with the telemetry data sent to them or the few pictures it sends. not to mention the drone can’t be launched near any high value targets anyway. the drone itself won’t allow it.

[@kennykobitsfpv]

You making whiskey? Looks like gold. Anything but DJI drama. If I drank id definitely take a shot of that afterwards.

[@Fpvcandy]

What do you think about all this now Josh B? It passed the house now otw to the Senate! Ouch this sucks

[@sadteeto]

China does the same in the 80-90s in order to protect the domestic economy too. By making import tax really expensive but not banning competitions

[@0j0m.......]

I kinda hope so, for the love of the hobby. As well as my country.

[@infinityphotorob]

My experience learning FPV made me realize just how great the DJI drones are that I have used the last 10ys. My phantom 1 is a better Quad than any of my FPVs in many respects.

[@Nickc582]

They are quality but should listen to there customers and when it comes to fpv there should be a way to work fully with older goggles of change the name not call it avata 2 when you can't use the remote or the goggles with the second period I'm done waisting more money when it's a investment that is why I'm going with walksnail and I do love how much more they are doing for our community

[@charlesrabycr]

It is no secret that small businesses are being pushed out. Now you have to report business information to the BOI , including every time you get a new drivers license. Free for now. Unless you dont file.

[@brentsagnotti5067]

Any new thoughts on the DJI ban, doesn’t look good?

[@blueskyfpv]

You forgot ATARI !!! ;-) I was playing pong back in the 70's!

[@ChrisLindsay-y9f]

True story, have a PONG, we moved to a new house 20 years ago, heard this sound in the garage, it was the PONG the batteries were still good and the unit works. I should hook it up to my flat panel it be interesting.

[@josephdaulton3726]

Awesome speech ..good job JB

[@hubieh3374]

taking DJIs wings is not the way to win... they gotta be better!!

[@SouthernTyrant]

Not only are the products subpar, they are also WAY more expensive. Anzu now has the best American made drone, which is.. a Mavic that they licensed from dji and are selling for more than double the price.. imagine 🤔

[@DESTINYFPV]

Does that mean that all drones with dji components like the dji 03 air unit can't be flown also

[@stevemoor7419]

I researched this, and it seems as if this ban only covers organizations that receive federal funds.

[@OranJuno]

No, I'm pretty sure that's an earlier bill. The new bill is for any private citizen I'm pretty sure.

[@Ice-FaceMedia]

Did America build drones for civilian.. like DJI drones, that can do everything...I will get one today...where do they sell?

[@Lolpopi8547]

Look into skydio, absolute piece of trash drone, but if you want made in America, that's what you get.

[@BabyKnxckz]

Djis tech is just crazy good and key keep improoving where noone else can / does.

[@torodatruth]

of course it is. Its sponsored and subsidized by the government. they can't fail. even if a competitor comes in with all the better technology and tricks for similar price, dji can litterally just cut their price in half to stiffle out competition while the chinese government covers the difference until there is no more competition then DJI hike their prices back up because drone users don't have any other choice lol... its no illegal but its a sticky way of doing business... NOT TO MENTION, the chinese government could access dji data anytime it needs.... nah bro.... at this point, because of the way they operate, you can't trust ANY HARDWARE out of china \:(

[@inoc805]

The goal is to not make the best drone. The goal is to mass produce large amounts of low cost weapons. China is ahead of the game already. The US is trying to close that gap considering what we've seen in the 🇷🇺 🇺🇦 conflict.

[@unlmitdbeastmode]

RIP Sega

[@bart_sakwerda_uav]

Josh got spicy

[@MactacFPV]

What about colecovision, intellivision, and most of all Atari consoles even before NES? Dont' forget those ! :)

[@adcraziness1501]

this is like the fifth comment I've seen that says "don't forget the magnavox" - this is not a "history of video games" video

[@MactacFPV]

@@adcraziness1501yes I am aware of that - my comment was tongue in cheek

[@SkeezyFPV]

The issue is that we are beta testers for the CCP via dual use technology. They see what does and doesn’t work and then apply it to their military drone industry to be weaponized and used against the West when the CCP does decide they are ready to invade Taiwan, the Philippines, Australia, Vietnam, India, or wherever else their greed takes them. Remember, China plays the long game. We’re funding the potential future casualties of our own nations by helping the PLA perfect their military drones and comms programs. Josh’s view is a very narrow world view and ignorant of current realities and threats against the West and democracy. China isn’t our friend. Is DJI really preventing the use of their drones as weapon and surveillance platforms by Russia and Ukraine? Or are they just looking the other way while they scoop up data to perfect the PLA drone programs for future use against our sons and daughters? I say it’s the latter. They can stop me from flying where I want here in the US but not in Ukraine? Nah, I don’t think so.

[@cwwisk]

As a walksnail user, I have mixed feelings. On one hand, I can say "In your face" to DJI. On the other hand, it will drive up the price of Walksnail while it is still around... 😂

[@dangerous8333]

Why would you have to say in your face to dji users? Are you that jealous and petty? Weird.

[@cwwisk]

@@dangerous8333 it was hypothetical. Lol but maybe there's a part of me that is that immature, or maybe it was the first thing that popped in my head. It could have just as easily been, "Tata for now. See ya next week." Instead of "in your face". Mostly I just don't like DJI.

[@_p-x-l_]

they also banned huawei because of stupid politics but still allow xiaomi phones. can't make that shit up

[@TheEvilVargon]

I mean if DJI has patents blocking other competitors from making some tech, then it could in theory make American drones more successful. But I have no idea what patents, if any, DJI has.

[@charlesrabycr]

I would love to buy American. Cost too much and quality's matter.

[@matthewlee8917]

DJI is absolutely the best. Could they be skimming data. Yeah, I would if I was them. Info is the most valuable asset on the planet currently. Should we put some guard rails in place? Probably, but not an outright ban.

[@globaldeception7414]

Pong game consol came out in 1979 or 80

[@DKTek07]

So, what happens to all the DJI's currently in the USA?

[@MikeDyson3k]

We'll have the most expensive Pet Rocks.

[@DKTek07]

@@MikeDyson3k or new airframes for FPV. Just have to gut the DJI stuff for the normal FC’s. The Inspire series with the moving arms would make a very cool FPV frame. Like a Klingon bird of prey 😂😂😂👍.

[@globaldeception7414]

The problem is you think Its Government.. and people ignore the hidden elite

[@Echo22WC]

Maybe you all should have been more concerned with buying American to push them to the top!

[@Echo22WC]

Dude crying at his computer over the problem he helped perpetuate.

[@Echo22WC]

And then fail to realize you made it hard for US companies to succeed by voting for the ones that restrict innovation & let free from regulation China walk all over us

[@adcraziness1501]

They ban my drone I will be recompensed, one way or another.

[@RalphFreeman-ok5of]

The most undervalued commodity in the UK / USA at the moment is knowledge often in the form of "experience" . Where on a company balance sheet does technical competence or knowledge base appear as an asset? I spent countless hours during my career in Engineering explaining that we need product development I. e the need to move forward. Mostly I was informed by bean counters that "we can't justify the cost". Hmm

[@saiyanfpv5358]

Is Sony from china? Or Japan?

[@mssippijim]

I just spent 1200 on an Avata, sure hope this fails.

[@jakekisiel7399]

Most millionaires today who are young inherited the money.

[@PoloHungary]

the military drones industry is good in USA but consumer drones for the masses i dont thinks so maybe its faster can improve the drones because the knowledge industry not like make a USA PlayStation ,anyway the camera and other component come in china ,maybe the radio transmission system make the USA company and the frame other bits but motors and cameras hard to make and sell cheap like double product price

[@JOE_JET_DIY]

Why are you scrimming? People use headphones.

[@Rckid28]

Apple an American company, getting sued by the government explain that 🤯

[@tristanvaillancourt5889]

Russian gaming console, out of the blue. lol. Love the channel. I just crashed into your virtual house twice just yesterday! (I agree with your entire argument of course. We need access to DJI even if we can't afford some of it as individuals, we need them as professionals. )

[@Fernando-ke2nr]

Come work for me.

[@AlexGifford5150]

Make American drones great again!

[@AtradiesInc]

all american drone companies go military and stop selling to the public

[@vp62ift]

Yep , skidio did that. I sold my skydio 2 because the company is getting away from consumer drone

[@djn2872]

Our phones, tv, game consoles. Are from china, otherwise, we would have them near us. But they wanna get rid of a drone

[@zdkama]

Not to turn every rant into a rant about late stage capitalism but it feels like this point expands further than drones. Are they _any_ US companies who want to make the _best_ of something? Anything? Not just the least shitty version. It truly does not seem like it. The idea that "capitalism breeds innovation" is going on the window fast.

[@adcraziness1501]

We used to design better products. We are done with that era; companies now engineer ways to build things CHEAPER. Not BETTER. That is a key difference and it will be our undoing.

[@rreiter]

Thinking back to the American wooden TV console market being disrupted by Japan, the only reason we aren't all using mahogany, walnut or balsa drones is because of China. /sarcasm

[@alacazaba]

Claims about inability of American manufacturing are bogus. It takes investment and a good investment environment to get these things going. Tesla had zero years of experience vs 100+ years of auto manufacturers, the big mfg are now trying to catch up to Tesla. The issue with American drones being subpar is that the sector is grossly underinvested, the Chinese state funds pumped billions into drone and related firms in China, many are given special dispensation to hire foreign talent, and benefited from other aspects of state industrial policy, as well as foreign investment. Japan, for example, more than technically and industrially capable of making consumer and enterprise level drones but hasn't seen a rise of such because much of industrial policy and investment were inclined to building foreign mfg capacity because it was seen as offering better returns. You had more foreign investment in Chinese firms related to drone mfg by Western f& Japanese investment funds than Western & Japanese investment funds into the West & Japan. The Countering Drones act, btw, merely only does in some small order what the Chinese have as established law. In China ALL foreign drones (not country specific) which collect or use any gnss/gis data are banned.

[@fpvpilot1017]

Also if the government got rid of remote ID and all other stupid drone rules then maybe american drones would be as good as DJI

[@dangerous8333]

Yeah, that's it. That's what is stopping them. Lmao.

[@SBvice]

American drone companies ARE the reason you have RID

[@honestnewsnet]

Lol

[@EpicDayDreamers]

I work with first responders and we use DJI because we are able to find Children that walk away from home or assist in apprehending a violent offender.... We have attempted to use "Blue" drones and after a firmware update it almost collided with a life flight helicopter because it lost signal 75 feet from our face. The user interface is impossible to use quickly. Sure they are coming out with new and better "Blue" drones but they are lightyears behind companies like DJI or even Autel. Crack open one of the "Blue" Drones... What Chip sets are they using... CHINA!!! Just because they are assembled in the US makes them "Blue". What about all the ones I have built using the O3 Air unit? Built in the US with the same parts that "Blue" drones Source.

[@Emiliocab47]

Lets hope so

[@ChipZilla69]

Don't talk smack about Atari 😂

[@Philberton]

I disagree with JB on this. Every American or European buying a DJI drone is paying to develop China's drone technology which may one day be used against us, given that China is a strategic competitor that the US in particular is trying to build alliances against in case of a war. Anything that funds China is supporting them sending weapons to Russia to attack Ukraine, to influence the politics of Canada and so on. And who knows what information they could ultimately try to collect with these things. It's really difficult when they make cool consumer gear that is better than everything else out there. A ban on imports of DJI gear (or even higher import tariffs) might give US companies like Skydio more of an opportunity to grow in the US market and compete against each other without being immediately undercut by the incumbent juggernaut.

[@voxtelnismo]

This guy gets it.

[@dangerous8333]

Yep, we've been rebuilding China for the last 40 years. Thanks boomers.

[@kurtzFPV]

You might have a point if we also required apple to bring all their factories back to the US. Or forced Wal-Mart to quit buying from China. The money spent to buy DJI drones is a drop in the bucket toward spending to influence Canada or attack Ukraine compared to other manufacturing profits they make from goods made in China by our own "American" corporations. This would only make sense if we required all manufacturing to return to the US, and then everyone would need to be prepared to pay the heavy price of the cost of living that would make the rise in prices of the last several years look like nothing.

[@voxtelnismo]

@Rac-fpv It's not us, it's them. Ever noticed how we're on great terms with European countries? How we don't seem to worry about France attacking our allies, or subverting our elections? How Poland doesn't send mercenaries to attack our bases in Syria?

[@johnsullivan8673]

@@voxtelnismolol what? It’s almost 100% us.

[@MooseArc004]

you're gonna talk pro business but barely bat an eye at forcing anyone who wants to do literally anything "commercial" with a drone regardless the size requiring a FAA pilots license. deal with it.

[@YOKokob]

0:58 “think” your cooking 🍳

[@Phuzzyl0gic]

And unsubbed

[@RustysMustangGarage]

DJI doesn't do it better, DJI does it cheaper with the backing of the Chinese State :(

[@johnsullivan8673]

Lol you clearly don’t fly drones.

[@Lolpopi8547]

they literally make the best drones in the world 🤡

[@RustysMustangGarage]

@@johnsullivan8673 lol, been flying for years, even have a DJI product. but it is easy to see what they produce costs way more to make then what they sell it for, thereby killing all competition, and now they are the only game in town, we got whet we deserve.... lol.....

[@johnsullivan8673]

@@RustysMustangGarage DJI is very profitable. It’s called economy of scale. They’re vertically integrated.

[@agtjackbauer]

Sega doesn't make gaming consoles in 25 years. Playstation came out in 95. Xbox 01. Nintendo's the only one that's made consoles that long. Your video game history is just a little bit off😂🤣 Still love the take take though

[@0j0m.......]

I liked you so much until i heard you just now

[@ALSNewsNow]

LOL. We voted for this in 2020. Sorry. No wars, no fake collision, no DJI drone bans, $2.50 gas, low inflation, low prices, low unemployment, and NOT sending Ukraine $100 BILLION every few months. But those mean tweets! Thanks soccer.moms.

[@gpaull2]

Wow, you should really fact check what DT and his party feed you. Inflation started when DT (and all other world leaders) handed out money during his mishandling of Covid. It has been counteracted by Biden and is the lowest in the world. Dictators were kept at bay because DT was doing their bidding for them…why would they interrupt him? He wasn’t strong with them, he was weak and didn’t stand up to them. The US economy was tanking, society was being divided, there were riots, trade relationships were being ruined, he was threatening to pull out of NATO, they had political influence…all things that these dictators wanted! The US economy and jobs are both up over DT’s term. US has some of, if not the lowest gas prices in the world. Money does not go to Ukraine. Ukraine is given old equipment and the money goes into the US economy to produce new and better replacement equipment…helping the US economy. I can even see this from up in Canada…what’s your excuse?

[@somebodyspecific2410]

We did vote in 2020 and every single conversation doesn't have to be about your crappy politics.

[@JohnCuppi]

In addition to the other comments, might want to check the years that Remote ID was codified into the FAA reauthorization act, and the year that DJI was first added to a “ban list” aka the (Bad) Entity List. Hint: it didn’t happen in the last 3.2 years.

[@ug8903]

My friend repaired dji drones and other devices. They reason they want it banned is because most ski produxts upload data to any avaiapbale wifi internet without any notice.

[@Bubblyhiccups]

Build your own like the old days of FPV. Can’t be hacked, no software updates and zero control over how you use your property. 👍