Will this Sinkhole Flood Salvage Dodge Viper Start and Run?

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We super clean and flush the V10 Engine in our Flood Totaled Dodge Viper and try to spin it over by hand. If things go well, maybe it will start, or maybe it won't.....
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[@tmann8725]

When I was a silly young man, I put my 70 Nova SS in to the bay (salt water). Drained the water/oil and refilled. Ran to operating temp and changed again (2 times). Drove that car for over a year without issue.

[@zhugzug]

I love seeing beautiful cars like this get saved and back on the road. I wish you luck!!

[@TheQuestionableGarage]

The evaporust did amazing! Also that cylinder is way worse than what I imagined when we spoke on the phone.

[@TiptronicSS]

I'm confident it will work if you make sure all the dirt inside the components are cleaned as best as possible. Don't make us wait too long for the next video 😄

[@barrysimms3444]

Also, check the trans for water. The vent will let in a good deal of water in a short time

[@BoostedMotorsports]

It might a built or REBUILT engine already! Noticed your bearing caps have ARP bolts on them...

[@movingearth3726]

Funny how they look right past this comment hah but yes I noticed that myself that’s how my duramax’s were built with arp head studs they may not even. Know what ARP is …. You and I will just leave that alone i so pose

[@keneich5579]

Please Sam stop. You have a chance to save a Viper. Do it the right way. Pull the engine and take it apart and clean it. Take apart the the entire front end and do it right. Make lots a content and bring us along on the journey 😄👍

[@ViperMike]

Most likely going to need a new PCM. The computer is in the front left corner of the car and was completely underwater. Would be really surprised if it's not completely corroded inside.

[@Nebbia_affaraccimiei]

that'll be easy to check, connect a diagnostic

[@RedTurbocar]

Computer internally is covered with a coating to prevent corrosion

[@organiccold]

They are water proof and all the connectors have gaskets to keep water away. Can happen but very difficult

[@michaelgiannone2192]

@@organiccold I had a similar failure on my Yukon. Got the green goop on two pins and fried the ecu , and it didn’t even go for a swim

[@ViperMike]

Yeah, it's probably fine. Like I said in my other comments, it might have something to do with the immobilizer.

[@robstephens]

Before replacing the starter, first check if you are actually getting power to the starter solenoid. The starter may be okay.

[@jamesonmalig7271]

You could always just get the starter tested at your local auto parts store

[@tmetito3535]

@@jamesonmalig7271 you can go under it with a screwdriver and touch the contacts and it will spin if it is good

[@william1389]

True.

[@esqueue]

Go from easy to hard so I'd start first at the relay. Listen for the click then the solenoid and test for power with a multimeter. There is a high chance that the alternator is also dead. I've had them fail from simple oil leaks.

[@partyman6666]

Run 12 volts straight to the starter from a battery.

[@jargo7251]

Since this is a flood car, there might be lots of reasons, why is the starter not engaging. The wiring from the START button to the ECU or the starter relay ; the starter relay ; the starter itself ; the ECU.. You should probably try jumping the starter if it's not somehow full of water. It also could be a badly ruster or corroded ground.

[@adriananzano2292]

this.

[@cadenkrause8079]

Clutch pedal switch could also be the problem if it’s not any of those you listed. If the computer does not see the switch indicate that the pedal is depressed then it might not attempt to crank the engine over

[@aususer415]

Codes? That will give you a better idea… especially if you can SEE what the buttons doing

[@frankish5314]

Yup I would take jumper cables from a battery direct to the starter. If the starter does not spin then strip it down as it might just need the brushes cleaned up.

[@beakerwsw]

Yeah, there's only like 4 grounds on the viper since most of the body is fiberglass. There's two that I know of behind the drivers side fender. I added my own with some 0awg on my 3rd gen.

[@Airman..]

ARP con rod bolt? Most likely That's a Racing built engine good score!

[@neelgriddalur]

You seem pretty confident so I'm with you on this one-- let's hope a starter helps!

[@ViperMike]

Also, try pushing the unlock button on the remote. If the immobilizer is engaged, it won't let you crank it. Other issue may be the clutch switch

[@clifbradley]

I hope he reads your comment. My uncle has had 3 Vipers that he rebuilt and countless other ones he helped work on and what you said I remember him talking about for a car the guy had spent over 15k trying to get th car to work and nobody could figure it out. Then my uncle came in and was able diagnose the issue, which was this issue with the immobilizer. It had a couple other issues because the auto part mechanics had done some cutting, slicing, and rewiring that didn't need to be done, but had they been more familiar or at least qualified, they would have figured it out. In fact one shop was called 'Mopar Magicians' but I'm thinking they only magic they did was making that guys money disappear.

[@paulchambers2379]

What a let down. Was really looking forward to hearing the engine ticking over. Hopefully next time Sam.

[@Adrian-mq5ld]

6000 episodes later ....whoops someone stole the car

[@todtalk3912]

ticking, you mean purring

[@mfreund15448]

More like knocking.

[@justinrodriguez3430]

Next time dont spoil it SMDH

[@elijah9907]

@@justinrodriguez3430 don't read the comments before finishing the video.

[@colindonahue4205]

Been waiting 2 weeks for this….hope we don’t have to wait 2 more weeks. Dying to know how this turns out

[@Christoph-sd3zi]

Instead of watching and commenting on other KZbinrs Sam should be turning out more content.

[@altenwahl7654]

Yeah, this is a bit slow. Not much progress for a whole episode.

[@arnosteyn2579]

Agreed,posting one vid in 2 weeks,no real progress,could have atleast added starter installation and made video longer with some result

[@MyTechHelp14]

Right felt like 2 weeks for something that would of took 1 day max to do

[@txsam2802]

Who knows what he has going on in his personal life or everything he does off camera, maybe the man just doesn’t have time right now.

[@mr.hernandezdrives]

enjoying this series so much man, cant wait for that thing to roar into life, fingerz crossed

[@jonnyduncan7056]

Found you from Ratarossa visit in UK and a great car channel. Really respect your 'give it a go' approach. All the best from UK..

[@concon8397]

Sam, excellent DIY, hurry with the next episode, we gotta see it run.

[@AMS_KustomDipz]

These are interesting videos with some mystery if it's going to run or not, much better than the quick flip ones I've seen on YT before! ☺️

[@dimitrig3739]

Darn it Sam! Just spent my lunch break in the Florida heat so I could watch this with no interruptions to hear this bad boy at least crank!! You got this cuz, get this SOB howling!

[@smashthehammer5348]

This guy is extremely smart with cars. I wonder he learned to work on them

[@topmarques]

I've been in the car business for 30 years. Not seen the whole video but this engine needs a full strip and rebuild to save it. If it does run it's probably going to eat itself and destroy any components that might have lived again. Want you to succeed but all that sand/rust and water internally is a death sentence.

[@lovellmills7959]

if it needs too be rebuilt anyway who cares??

[@halofreak1990]

@@lovellmills7959 Because if you rebuild it straight away, you can reuse most, if not all of the parts after cleaning. If they get damaged from running, like @Andrew Trapnell said, then you need to replace them. It's a matter of how much money you're willing to risk.

[@lovellmills7959]

@@halofreak1990 it is a modded engine. Has ARP internals. Does not need too be rebuilt.

[@weekendwrench]

@@lovellmills7959 u don't get it do you? They are saying with the remaining residual particles still in the engine it will ruin it. What part of modding an engine makes it indestructible? Sand, soot, metal particles will eat away at everything internal. Mods have nothing to do with it.

[@danm2422]

The video I’ve been waiting for clicked so fast lol

[@Slirox]

Me too

[@cartercollins8313]

Only been waiting 2 weeks for this to pop up..

[@captaininsano2777]

And still no answer. Lol

[@pcgrey69]

And then found out nothing

[@danm2422]

@@pcgrey69 I was disappointed in the end! Lmao

[@802Garage]

After seeing all the progress, even more confident it will run no problem. Am I confident it will have great compression on every cylinder with only 5-10% deviation? Eh I'd go with 70/30 odds on that.

[@geoffreyhall7843]

Sam, I'm glad I didn't have a chance to bet on those 10 cylinders moving at all. I'd have lost. Good job. Good luck going forward.

[@jlucy0]

not sure if vipers or have it, but maybe an inertia switch got tripped when hitting the hydrant?

[@Samcrac]

No inertia switch on this one!

[@danpszeniczny9664]

You got balls Samcrac. Have at it. This is an easier fix than that Ferrari

[@chrisclaude3885]

Bro the alternator is TOAST!!!!

[@shawangunk]

It seems like you’re doing a very good job Sam. It will be fine. 👍

[@jb678901]

You also might want to try DEOXIT on all sockets. Or similar electrical cleaner. No power when doing so.

[@ianbroadwith4137]

I wish I was paying $3.49 a gallon for fuel. It’s $10.35 in the UK

[@greg23ton]

Marvel mystery oil . Put one quart in the fuel and one in the oil (sub out one quart of oil) it will clean it all run for 60 mile change oil . Then scope it you will not be disappointed.

[@ggeimer]

It’s a shame the engine wasn’t drained immediately and flushed and filled with new oil within hours of retrieving it. I floated a car across a flooded off ramp. I immediately drained all fluids and refilled. I had no issues with anything in the car. At this point this engine looks like it will never be the same, without a full tear down. The rust on the cylinder walls will surely promote loosing the rings compression and oil control. A hone is a minimum and probably needs to be bored out. The numerous electrical issues will be secondary to the future of this car, but it is truly a shame that the engine was so neglected after the flood. At this point, I would not be looking for short cuts, but would be evaluating whether the engine is salvageable by a full tear down.

[@ChrisBeevor0511]

But like Sam said if it’s a full tear down there’s nothing lost anyway. The owner just wants Sam to see if it will run before he bothers spending money to ship it. Sam is doing this for nothing other than content

[@topmarques]

@@ChrisBeevor0511 Quite a few of the key/expensive internal components might be saveable currently. If it eats itself by being started most will be scrap.

[@cy-fairclean8458]

It’s always more fun to watch someone try to start a flood car without pulling engine for tear down. If it was mine I would simply pull everything and rebuild, but like I said it always interesting to see if it start with simple DIY hacks. Keep up the good work Sam!!!

[@myles287]

Lots of marine diesel engines get started after sinking....staying filled with water isn't terrible if you drain/clean/treat the engine before trying to fire it up.

[@johnmorykwas2343]

I say it will spin over. Use AMSOIL MP, it displaces moisture.

[@Alex-hn4we]

would try manually kicking over the starter to see if it spins. if not would check relays and clutch safety switch

[@Duckswag87]

That stereo cracks me up it looks like the stereo out of my grandmas old Plymouth breeze 🤣

[@marianoarrieta7487]

Sam What about the two post lifts ? 😂

[@truetech4158]

Just mod it to use a crank like a model T ford or a first edition dodge, viper. Make it turn over using the power of your mind, beaming some of your amazing energy directly to the drivetrain like the super floridian action hero/vehicle salvage person that you fully capable of being. Use the Sam force, like john force used to rely on with his cars, only with you, its Sam force. #SamForce

[@slasher9883]

Anyone else shouting "JUST START THE DAMN CAR!" at their screens? Seriously though you did a great job cleaning those internals and I am confident it is going to be ok once you do get some power on the starter.

[@vintagethrifter2114]

Just you. Most of us are still waiting for him to drop the oil pan and check the barrings.

[@CaptnDanLKW]

Like with salvaging Boats, NEVER drain your engine until you are immediately ready to tackle, start to finish. Boat salvage operators won't raise the boat until they are ready to begin work. Not that I'm an expert, but it takes air to start the oxidation process, so their logic makes sense.

[@imtheonevanhalen1557]

Nope....air increases the oxidation process, but water is H2O....two parts hydrogen, one part oxygen. Drop a bolt in a pan of water and watch what happens.

[@geneard639]

You have 'Push to Start'... uh, boss? You may have a safety interlock that demands the Fuel Pump (very likely) and Blower (maybe) Relays installed. Its a 10 cylinder and those things would quickly scavenge the fuel rail empty possibly leaning out the engine so much the pistons burn out. Just an idea, I would have to see a wiring diagram for it to determine if thats the issue.

[@rednekdiesel]

Did anyone else notice the ARP rod bolts? That engine has been rebuilt at some point with some high quality stuff

[@MS-ps3cf]

highly doubt it, the car has like 9k miles why would it ever have needed a rebuilt

[@rednekdiesel]

@@MS-ps3cf may not have needed a rebuild, may be a performance upgrade. vipers are commonly modified

[@DTa0]

Just throwing this out there… maybe the clutch safety circuit? Not sure if that’s the correct nomenclature but it’s possible that could have gone bad as-well. Excited for the next update

[@Samcrac]

Good idea

[@Trenscendent]

This is by far my favorite KZbin channel.

[@leonb2637]

I live in New Jersey where we have had a number of floods even in recent years so I am extremely cautious about making them roadworthy. Flood waters can be loaded with human and toxic wastes, you may have water inside of body structural parts, and electrical parts may be toast so may cost more to replace and repair. In this case too, your 'sweat equity' if use a going rate of $100/hour, you will likely be $4,000 + that should be included in any 'profit'.

[@ne2i]

Check the computer via the obd2 see if you can see any live data.

[@Thomas-ul3uy]

After Evap O Rust, I would have refilled with diesel to rinse.

[@adammidkiff2396]

Love the Caps shirt.

[@HockeyVictory66]

Sam, you channel is ten times better than Tyler’s (Hoovies). I love your videos but would like to see more of them each week. Take Carr.

[@rickybobbyflyingwild8119]

Neutral safety zwitch in the shifter or on the bellhoisung

[@rogergaudette9511]

That picture of the clean cylinder showed a bent valve... Someone tried to crank it over with water in the cylinders unfortunately.

[@joesmith2465]

I bought a flooded ford lightning after karina is was under 20' of water for around a month id say. it was a mess in the motor ended up selling it.

[@jimwolfmeyer6664]

Great content, can't wait to see her run

[@meboostatv6145]

Connect direct power to the starter to ensure it is indeed the starter

[@aithanmier]

Wait, does the Viper come from the factory with ARP bolts or has the engine had work done to it?

[@casper17000]

Thats what i was seeing!!

[@bongboy5275]

Saw them, what was up with that?

[@jaketherattlesnake4377]

Ok I wasn’t the only one to see that

[@lovellmills7959]

*ARP con rod bolt? Most likely That's a Racing built engine good score!*

[@ezesrebuilds1174]

Literally to the 1% who's reading this, God bless you, and may your dreams come true, stay safe and have a wonderful day.

[@gf4509]

The sand is everywhere🏝

[@cadmando18]

Are you able to pressurize the oil system and get it flowing without starting the engine? That would probably be ideal in this situation.

[@stupidamericanpig7357]

Wishing Sam a speedy recovery after the cholera infection from drinking the intake water...

[@geoffkburton]

Maybe all the chemicals killed off any microbes in that nasty water 😅

[@SPECKIES]

Wee bit of legionella will help fight off the cholera. He should be fine.

[@adamdobrzanski6631]

Step mom will take care of him.

[@brentboswell1294]

YOU HAVE DIED OF DYSENTERY 😂

[@rogergaudette9511]

Dodge sucks. If you unplug the fuel pump relay (Auto shut down) the car will not crank. I used to work for a local dodge dealership and am vary electrical fluid including at tech school back in the day a long time ago, they (the teachers) told me I couldn't get a 1994 Ford explorer flood vehicle running... It was swamped for a week and had to pull the heads because of being soo full, clean all the PCs, {did use rice meathod back in 1995}

[@rogergaudette9511]

It ran. Airbag and abs lamps were on but no check engine lamp!

[@gageb556]

Take it from sam about upside!

[@billlear5607]

Iv really been thinking of taking a chance on a flooded mustang g t. If you get this thing running lm going to have a lot more confidence. Make it happen.

[@crkproductions5000]

Thanks Sam. You give me inspiration.

[@porcelainthunder2213]

Still probably the better idea to pull the heads and get all that crap out of the cylinders before you crank it or else you can easily gouge the walls and you end up burning oil and no compression.

[@nooneziller]

Dam it Sam. Just start the monster already

[@stuckoutwest5169]

On the fuse blocks in Chrysler vehicles they have a Tipton module I'm pretty sure that is water damaged

[@MrJdubbya36]

You will probably get it to spin over. Then you will probably get it to run eventually. Then the same thing may happen as those dudes with the flood GranTurismo....you'll spin a bearing. Then you won't be rebuilding but replacing this motor. But it's interesting to watch you try.

[@Nobody-U-Want-2-Know]

Make sure you’re doing the start sequence correctly. And reset the inertia switch.

[@christianvalfritt956]

Today at Samcrac. How many times can we use the same click bait 😄😄

[@brentolson5504]

Can't wait for the viper too run. Give full disclosure to the new owner.

[@cedhome7945]

That motor is perfect for motorcycle look up Alan Millard in the UK!

[@jamesreyes4184]

Sam, I love ya bro, but you got to push more vids out man. The suspense is killing me....

[@Samcrac]

I'm with you. On it! Thanks for your support

[@retouchesexpert6091]

All I remember about this guy is he replaced a structural part on a Lamborghini with an aluminum bar,

[@ditherdather]

Every packed bearing on that pully system has probably been washed out, I'm sure.

[@ericcraig3809]

Fresh water from the hydrant

[@GB-kp6hf]

check the blinker fluid

[@jsb2cute]

Just want to say I really enjoyed the video this is like legit my dream car I've always loved the vipers every time I would play midnight club it would literally be the only car I would drive so just for watching you restore something this amazing you just got a new subscriber and a good like form me because of how much I love these cars cant wait for the next video

[@RogerM88]

I would mesure the pistons at TDC to check possible bent rods. Many knuckle heads at the Auction site try to start flood engines without checking the oil. Some even do it in their walkarounds videos.

[@spavliskojr]

not to mention hydrolocking. that water doesnt compress and is bad news if you try to crank a water logged engine block

[@RogerM88]

@@spavliskojr that guy from Auto Auction Rebuilds lately been cracking some flood cars without checking the oil or if the air filter is dry. Too cringe.

[@massi628]

good point however it seems there is no power to the starter so i don’t think they could’ve even tried to start it

[@Samcrac]

😆 imagine what they do off camera

[@RogerM88]

@@massi628 hopefully in this case, they didn't crank it.

[@robertdurrance8161]

i would say you should check the grounds.that was happened too me. nothing happened when turning over i checked for resistance between wire and grounds on vehicle

[@abcdefgh3402]

I am not surprised that insurance companies immediatelly make total loss out of a flooded car. It is great for video like this, but try to fix this at the dealer or even in an independent shop would cost a fortune with completely unpredictable outcome.

[@richardpitcher8735]

It'll never start.....it is viper-locked! 🤣

[@josephlisky7938]

This project is almost a year old and it still takes you a month between post

[@mindblownwatcher8536]

I had an engine with water in it like that and one thing i can recommend is that you should crank the engine for a few seconds with the oil filter off to blow out the oil passage from the pump. A bunch of white sludge came out of mine.

[@shainewinter8264]

Nice way to check water 😅

[@Madhouse2332]

I read the title so fast i thought it had something to do with will Smith 😂

[@armandopatane5343]

Go go go Sam go go babby

[@juanespinoza435]

you should chech the trans too to see if i doesn't has water

[@tonyanderson6493]

Just tear it down and rebuild

[@The_journeyy]

*This man has no fear and knows his stuff* 👌

[@MEATHEADRacing75]

Let’s Go Caps!

[@N0N0111]

@Samcrac Many people will not see it or tell you they enjoy it a lot. But i see you are uploading video's in 4K30 and it means a lot, it's just that extra to make me come back :)

[@Topofthelinetommy]

I can't even find a decent priced gen 3. I just looked at a black 03 at a dodge dealer in SC and after receiving pics I think your car is cleaner. Lol.

[@FireBirdZXv8]

The real question here is, can Sam stop jaw jacking and get to working on it? I understand the steps in fixing a car like this, but you could of put more content into this video! We've been waiting, and I honestly think you could of done more in this video than you did.

[@N0N0111]

So funny how cars drive themself on this farm haha. Just take a snap look at the background people.

[@ImportDomestic2006]

When it comes to the starter Sam all you have to do is take it apart clean it re-grease it then test it. Most likely it has sand and other material preventing it from functioning.

[@LeviewFPV]

love these projects! There will always be naysayers... keep up the interesting projects!

[@chucksaunders7574]

Could try jumping the starter relay pin 30 to 87 with the relay removed that would also eliminate a bad component before the relay and also find out if the starter is bad. You would also hear the starter relay click even if the starter is bad.