Will Time Travel Be CRUCIAL In Zelda Tears Of The Kingdom?

[@drwily]

Check out my video on the THIRD Sheikah tribe! - kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6e8aWN8fselo6M

[@Cliffordlonghead]

First

[@Cliffordlonghead]

Awesome video Wily

[@TaliesinMyrddin]

Imagine how crazy a Zelda game would be that used almost every McGuffin gimmick artifact from across the series Like, imagine BotW's Hyrule if you could use the harp of ages, orcarina of time, wind waker, sailcloth, dark mirror, timeshift stones, masks, minish cap and four sword

[@zc104_purple5]

It would be such a fever dream, I Need it

[@sinteleon]

Yes, but if such existed... everyone would solve every puzzle with log bridge or rocket shield anyway. :P

[@Maxon214]

Pretty sure the last time the series used time travel was three years ago in Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity. Skyward Sword was merely the last time it was used in the main series

[@HipnotikHylian]

Lmao he's a AoC hater

[@cato3277]

@@HipnotikHylianI am too fr, I legit stopped playing not long after the champion descendants appeared.

[@Agueybana1978]

​@@HipnotikHylian AoC makes no sense

[@Agueybana1978]

​@@cato3277 yeah the entire game was just fan service

[@cato3277]

@@Agueybana1978 I like fanservice, I just dislike being lead into thinking I was playing a prequel. And i know some Redditor nintendrone is gonna say that it was never marketed as a prequel - they legit called it the story of 100 years ago. That’s prequel marketing.

[@XenoWars]

So an idea i've seen others mention that i think could be highly possible, is time travel happening right at the start, but not in the conventional way. Zelda would be in the past, and is probably what happens when she falls. In the most recent trailer, we see her on the circular altar platform with the Master Sword. We know that Link eventually gets to this same altar and is in front of a yellow light with his hand lighting up with recall and he holds the Master Sword out towards the light. The idea here is that, you get Fuse, Ultrahand, and Ascend on the Plateau, and then you come to this altar and are able to talk with Zelda while you are both there at the same time, in different eras. Zelda instructs Link to give her the Master Sword while also giving him the power of Recall. What Zelda knows she must do is repair the Master Sword in the past.

[@drwily]

Seen this a lot and while I think this could happen I doubt it will be time travel, some sort of hylias realm is more likely ino

[@redact7577]

@@drwily it would make sense though as when she and link are in the Ganondorf cave she’s holding her tear which has the recall rune on it. It’s possible that when she fell she accidentally used the tear and sent herself far back in time to the time of the Zonai, which would make sense as she may or may not have met a zonai (the big guy with the ears and white hair)

[@redact7577]

The only issue I have with this theory is why she said she must be in that time. Like other than repairing the master sword what else has she got to do there, and how is she gonna return to the present with link?

[@sinteleon]

NEARLY 100% accurate

[@nathanpfirman625]

Imagine we go back in time all the way back to the first recorded calamity and completely stop the calamity from ever happening or maybe we meet with a previous link to get stronger like Twilight.

[@drwily]

Could happen but unlikely imo

[@redact7577]

I doubt that will help with the issue of ganondorf tho

[@itsJoshW]

The timeline that we do not go back in time would still exist, so this would change absolutely nothing.

[@gerlofsdonia4522]

04:45 There technically should be a timeline split caused by Link going back in time to plant the Life Tree and save Lanayru.

[@drwily]

Technically yes hahahha

[@gerlofsdonia4522]

@@drwily Love your videos man 😄👍

[@itsJoshW]

There would be about 8 timeline splits, according to quantum mechanics and space-time multiverse theory, in Skyward Sword alone -- 7 of which are different points in which Link fails, and the singular option to which Link succeeds.

[@wizcatcheslightning]

7:20 what a preamble, Doc 😂

[@urbosalittlebird8393]

I hope youre OK Dr W! You don't sound your usual energised self. Loved the video

[@happysmilesworldandgames8755]

17:09 so it goes from recall to reparo

[@drwily]

Well in the end recall can do quite a lot

[@XenoWars]

Did Nintendo refute their statement that Age of Calamity is canon? I could have sworn they said it was canon. Editing as i watch with things I notice: There is, in fact, a time gap between BotW and ToTK of at least a few years considering Riju and Tilun are older, so it's entirely possible that these places could have just been rebuilt.

[@HipnotikHylian]

They DID say it is canon. Zelda fanboys just don't like what it did and try and claim they know more about Nintendo themselves. They're a bunch of whiny idiots.

[@Skylancer727]

To be fair, Zelda has a rough history with time travel. Time travel in fiction usually either follows the rule that everything that happens with time travel was destined to happen, or that going in the past changes the present. Logic dictates it can't work both ways, but multiple games in the series do. Skyward Sword is probably the least consistent example. Impa is there the entire game from the past yet we can plant a tree that wasn't there in the past, even weirder is that Groose tells us to plant it and acknowledges how cool it looks there. So not only did we change the present, but someone reacts to it as if it just changed in front of their eyes. Plus the Demise fight at the end completely breaks the logic of the entire story as now Demise has been gone before Link ever came to the surface. But then why was Impa there when he first came as she says she's defending the master sword at the ending? Time travel is rough to get right, one of the only shows I ever saw that seemed to get it right was Stein's; Gate but even then the ending was a twisted idea that only kinda works. Still, the main issue again is the fact of consistency. If you make time travel able to change the past, the only threat should be confusion from what impact that change had and not what you were preventing anymore, but if all things from time travel are predestined then time travel can never actually change the past it can only be used to bring things from the past into the future or there should be evidence that what they thought changed actually didn't.

[@ShepherdsCreek]

With recall there is for sure AT LEAST confirmed limited time travel. I wouldn't be surprised if it goes further than that but I think I'd prefer if it was kept to that.

[@fatalwaffle1715]

Cool video bro.

[@gregzotter6189]

The Tears are the new gimmick in this game, which fits the way Nintendo often treats the franchise.

[@sirslurmusic]

We were wrong about 2 Links, but we were right about time travel. Zelda is in the past with the Zonai helping them bring an end to the cycle of Demise's Curse. Her interactions with the Master Sword and the Tears change present day Hyrule so Link can do what the Zonai couldn't in their time. That's my theory anyway

[@drwily]

Could be but again with nintendo clearly distancing themselves from it I am not sure, Could also be hylias realm or something similar

[@JoshuaGlock]

Lmao, nice theory.

[@espinoth9913]

Why is it the most times time travel in Zelda is brought up, no one brings up the most potentially broken relic of all? The Harp of Ages from Oracle of Ages, instrument of the oracle Nayru. The Harp allows for paradox-free time travel constrained to a single worldline. Any events changed in the past with the use of the Harp affect the present in real time, with only those under magical/divine protections able to persist through the changes. It's to the extent that it's implied if Ambi is killed to stop Veran, Ralph would essentially get Thanos'd. If that instrument were to reappear, it would allow for limited change that wouldn't make another mess like OoT's ending.

[@luisugalde6956]

The potential return of time travel in some form would be exiting for TotK,. I love time travel topics, I just dislike the multiverse crap that everybody seems to be doing lately, lol. Seems like a cheap way to tell time-travelling stories to me. In the case of Zelda, they should not have done that with the timeline imo. About the SS time split, I think they do not need to adress the other one since over there all is happy and no curse exists hehe.. Actually, I loved AoC for what it was, it was fun. Awesome video as always.

[@nathanpfirman625]

I believe that those were just repaired not ones from the past since they still have some wear and tear. Also it seems like we will actually be rebuilding the kingdom and gathering people to help.

[@WarmLillie]

Battle and wars aren’t won with power but only time

[@EchosOfWhiterun_5555DocOfStyle]

Bottles are also one with thought 🤔

[@EchosOfWhiterun_5555DocOfStyle]

And battles

[@songoku9348]

I hope. I’m hoping for one day having a Zelda game where the past is fully explored and Link learns the truth of the endless cycle. Imagine BOTW Link being able to explore Skyloft in the past.

[@drwily]

Would be sick but i bet it would hurt the story big time

[@maxbetatron]

Time shift stones are my favorite mechanic

[@drwily]

Yeah I quite like em as well, great time travel without massive complications

[@lavendec]

Simply put if they want to implement time travel into the story, it has to be in a way that isn’t overly op or really gimmicky for a specific situation otherwise the entire story could become less impactful

[@ThePartyHatHerobrine]

I liked the video, but in Age of Calamity, corny doesn’t mean bad, personally I loved seeing and knowing all the characters could be alive and well. Especially if you just watch all the cutscenes together. Maybe I’m a softie but I loved seeing everyone, emotions ran high, and I think one could truly see how each character cared for each other. Even though it’s non the canon timeline, it shows so much about the characters.

[@drwily]

Yeah I wanted something dark and gritty, which the marketing was also clearly pushing but we didn't get it. Personally I would love to see stuff like that because we hear about it so often but rarely get those dark sides of the zelda universe

[@ThePartyHatHerobrine]

@@drwily yeah I do love dark and gritty stuff, which is why I personally loved Twilight Princess and Majora’s Mask, but I just really like all the personalities of the characters in Botw, so I wasn’t let down by age of calamity. Breath of the wild was already dark with all the characters dying, so age of calamity was a good change of pace for me.

[@Baphomet_420]

What I'm interested to find out is if timeshift crystals and luminous stones are one in the same or at least connected to each other.

[@RaidenKaiser]

I think Ganon is dead and we are seeing Ganondorf return. I know that sounds confusing but I see Ganondorf as a different personality entirely from Ganon one is more Bestial and primal the other is more intelligent.

[@Ceezmemefn08]

They are one in the same

[@redact7577]

I think ganondorf is the reason for Ganon. I think the malice that was spewing from his body in that cave was the source of calamity ganon and how he kept returning after being sealed time and again. IMO the kept him down there by his request as to live on forever as the infinite reincarnations of himself. The Zonai obviously worshipped him given the various murals depicting him in a heroic manner.

[@Ceezmemefn08]

@@redact7577 no the source of returning is demise

[@bobbykazami]

At 10:34 in the gameplay trailer could possibly be a time shift stone!!!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2fUn5Rjj6iVrqM

[@adamflanders1092]

Could the new stone circle above kakariko village be a new/old time gate?

[@redact7577]

I’m pretty sure it’s a chunk of falllen sky island

[@lucasadams17]

I can't wait for you to play and Stream this Game and I'm willing to send some cananadas during Stream👨‍⚕️

[@drwily]

Well I will most likely stream it the day it comes out

[@DavidTokugi44]

I do think there is time travel, but link isn’t the one traveling through time, but Zelda

[@drwily]

Could be, imo I think a hylias realm or mirror world thing is also very much possible

[@Weezeeh]

Anyone remember “The story behind the Koopalings” if you do you earn my respect

[@chables74]

Algormancy!

[@TaliesinMyrddin]

God, I hope so. I really, really hope so. Time travel is my favourite part of long-running series and stories, and after BotW's severe lack of story focus TotK is looking like it has the potential to be the best story yet... if they stick the landing. But even if they don't meet all the potential I can see from that last trailer, I'd be satisfied enough with at least a bit of time travel in the story - the dream would be to explore Hyrule in two different time periods so you can really see how things are different, like in Oracle of Ages, but I'd be satisfied with a few decent Timeshift segments.

[@TaliesinMyrddin]

(Also I don't really need time travel as a *solution*, I'd love a Zelda game where time travel is an exploration and puzzle-solving tool)

[@drwily]

I especially dont expect 2 different timelines to explore imo like in oot

[@TaliesinMyrddin]

@@drwily Yeah, me either, I just really wish we'd get one soon - I don't find BotW's as fun as a lot of people because of how it's presented, but I'd love a version of Hyrule to explore in two different time periods to see how things changed, learn about the old ruins by being able to go back and see them in their hey-day. So while I miss dual-world mechanics, decently large-scale timeshift zones in a few of the ruined areas would be pretty cool, IMO Oracle of Ages is still my favourite Zelda lol

[@AidanRatnage]

Didn't the Zelda team say that AoC was canon?

[@HipnotikHylian]

It IS canon

[@drwily]

Doubt it

[@Guanaco14878]

I don’t think that there are two Links because the gameplay showcase had Link wear the robes and it was in post-calamity Hyrule

[@drwily]

Fair fair

[@itsJoshW]

I sometimes wonder if the people in the Zelda community have a brain, but then I remember a number of them obsessively want a Skyward Sword 2, and I immediately recall that they have no brains, what so ever. How Ocarina of Time did Time Travel: - Singular fixed event - Ganondorf's capture in the past creates the split. > This creates 3 timelines: - One where the Hero does not exist to stop Ganondorf in the past (This is an inevitable timeline) - One where the Hero stops Ganondorf in the past (child timeline) - One where the Hero stops Ganondorf in the future by defeating him and trapping him in the sacred realm with help of the sages (adult timeline) How Skyward Sword did Time Travel: - Multiple fixed events, 8 total events that change the course of each section. > This creates 8 different timeline of events. - One where the Hero does not exist or does not stop Ghirahim / Demise - One where the Hero does not exist or does not stop Ghirahim / Demise - One where the Hero does not exist or does not stop Ghirahim / Demise - One where the Hero does not exist or does not stop Ghirahim / Demise - One where the Hero does not exist or does not stop Ghirahim / Demise - One where the Hero does not exist or does not stop Ghirahim / Demise - One where the Hero does not exist or does not stop Ghirahim / Demise - One where the Hero goes back into the past to stop Demise by sealing him in the Master Sword You can be even be bold and claim it creates 9 potential outcomes: - One where Hylia is not a God, but a sage, and cannot gather the sages or the hero...which would permit to the original lore of the series -- Where Zelda's ancestor was an Ancient Sage, not a Goddess. For the record; Nintendo isn't distancing themselves from Ocarina of Time. You wouldn't have Ganondorf as the Villain if they were doing that. You wouldn't have "sages" return, if they were doing that. You wouldn't hear Requiem of Spirit, Nocturne of Shadow, Prelude of Light or Zelda's Lullaby if they were doing that. You wouldn't have the Master Sword with a Temple of Time identical to Ocarina of Time if they were doing that. There has been significantly more evidence within Tears of The Kingdom that they are heavily, and I mean heavily, distancing themselves from Skyward Sword. I'll conclude this with the following: - Theory: Utilizing source material and logical reasoning with valid capability of proof to deduce an idea different than what's being presented. - Speculation: Not having any proof to validate a claim and formulating a theory around this. This is speculation. There will not be "time shift" stones in Tears of The Kingdom, we know this already. What will there be? Well, an idea of it, but not Skyward Sword's massive flaw in plot progression. Otherwise, we know nothing else besides that there will be a specified sort of time manipulation occurring -- which does not permit the capability of branching additional timelines. This directly means: If and how there is time travel is irrelevant -- As it will not (even remotely) be utilized in defeating any major cataclysmic or sizable event in the past, as doing so splits the timeline. A The "present day" Hyrule would be left unchanged, and it would simply split off a new timeline wherein something was stopped in the past. My speculation: It's far more likely Nintendo and the developers are permitting a backstory that would circumvent and discredit the stories told in Skyward Sword within Tears of The Kingdom, which would then lead into the announcement of the third game in the series which would be a prequel to the Zelda entries which would take the place of Skyward Sword; And Skyward Sword will go in it's own separate timeline or be considered "not cannon". I would predict that they will drop a brand new timeline after Tears of The Kingdom releases that shifts many games around such that Ocarina of Time is still "The first game", and events untold are what happen before it, not "Skyward Sword, Minish Cap, Four Swords"; All side quests that shouldn't even be permitted to have in the main timeline, especially not origin stories.

[@itsJoshW]

12:48 ish. "Doesn't create any timeline splits like we see in Ocarina of Time". Ocarina of time only had 2 timeline splits and the inevitable "if this never even happened". Skyward Sword had 3 times that amount. I don't know how to break this to you: But the premise of this video is offputting since you're assuming the role of "Blaming Ocarina of Time" when the issue isn't Ocarina of Time -- it's the reception of the players in 2012 for disliking the horrifyingly bad story that relied on creating 8 different timelines in order to resolve the plot...by retconning half the stories before it. Time travel will exist within a method or two in TOTK. Not in the entirely wacko way as SS, but more aligned with something else that fits their direction. Recall is a form of time manipulation, it's time space-time manipulation. What _is_ space time manipulation, however, is Ascend, which creates a rift between space-time. Will time travel play a role? I believe it's feasible. Will it be something akin to what "theories" state, or what people want out of it (a skyward sword clone)? No. No it won't. That game not just broke all Zelda continuity and retconned most of it's lore -- it also entirely makes the creators look like idiots as they have a timeline split for Ocarina of Time, but not one for the game that splits the timeline in a multitude of ways -- and uses that game as "the first" in the series.

[@itsJoshW]

14:12 Holy f***. You seriously have brain damage. No, that's not how this works. It's not that it didn't "solve everything". it's that it created an alternative timeline due to the events occurring creating a split within the timeline. Schrodinger's theory; Let's do the cat example. Inside of a box, there is a cat both dead and alive at the exact same point. You lifting up the box depicts the outcome of the cat. In one timeline, the cat is alive, in another, the cat is dead. This is relativity. In the context of Ocarina of Time, the reason these timelines occurred is due to the timelines requiring to exist due to the outcomes still existing. If Link never was sent back to the past to warn Zelda, then the only timeline that would exist would be the "adult timeline". The paradox that occurred was Link being sent back in time to warn Zelda. Link time traveled "one time" which changed the course of history. If Link didn't stop Ganondorf in the future, but went back to the past to stop Ganondorf, the future where he "never stopped Ganondorf" would still exist. That's also the Fallen Hero timeline, which is a required events permitted to quantum mechanics -- wherein Link was never sent into the future due to telling Zelda about Ganondorf -- And in this circumstance, the outcome of Zelda choosing to "Capture Ganondorf" is a split decision into two sides: Arrest Ganondorf or do not. The "Fallen Hero" timeline was the timeline in which Link fails to stop Ganondorf as a child (we permit the belief of him dying, in relativity, this is where the decision occurs that Link telling Zelda changed nothing, he was not permitted to help gather the spiritual stones, he failed at doing this task and Ganondorf takes over).

[@drwadda]

Actually, Dr.Wily, you can find the time-shift stones in the very first trailer, "first look trailer", from 2 years ago... you might be on to something here

[@drwadda]

Correction, 3 years ago

[@drwily]

You mean those glowing ones underground? Or something else???

[@drwadda]

@@drwily @Dr.Wily yes, the ones underground as Zelda and Link were exploring the possible source of the calamity.. cause I think you were trying to prove that time-shift stones were present in TotK at 10:38. The glowing stones from the very first trailer look exactly like the timeshift stones from Skyward Sword

[@redact7577]

@@drwadda or they’re just luminous stones

[@SamG0628]

Huh, didn’t think of that.

[@SamG0628]

Thanks scammer

[@adamflanders1092]

I keep thinking about how much the stone circle in kakariko village looks like the gate of time from skyward sword. I have a pic but can't post it here.

[@redact7577]

It’s just a chunk of fallen sky island

[@njfox3305]

heres one for you are the Zonai Aliens?

[@venkelos6996]

I'm going to say I hope time travel plays almost no part in this game. Time travel is neat, but it takes all tension out, and undermines any efforts Ganon takes to win, assuming he isn't also moment-hopping. If the only way Good can triumph is to literally go back to before Ecil acted, and pull the rug out from under them then, and even when Gdorf has the Triforce of Power (probably), that's just weak. I also don't want major time travel because of the breaks. Since BotW bottlenecks these lines, jumping back to any point within one of those is iffy, and that kind of just leaves way back to Skyward Sword. Since that is hands-down my least favorite Zeld game, I'm still hoping it won't be the only references on here, as well as it could hurt the whole point of the bottleneck, if we'll just mess with things way back then. Personally, I'll just hope that they are mining for luminous stone, and not time ore. Of course, part of this is fear. I've been playing Zelda since the 80s; it's my favorite game series, and I don't want to watch it change significantly, or end. I'm sure plenty of other people are tired of the repeats; of Ganon returning, almost winning, getting sealed again, and waiting for the next iteration, but I'd personally rather lose the source of the games; Shigi, or Nintendo, then have them end it, and who knows what room we'll have for progression after this, depending on what happens to Link, Zelda, Ganon, or the Triforce. I guess I'm just getting old, and nostalgic, and afraid. ☺️

[@Defender1876]

did u not see the last trailer

[@drwily]

I did and loved it, also talk about it in the video

[@Genya2008]

Last time was in Age of Calamity.

[@drwily]

Not nintendo really but yes

[@kotlolish]

Time travel in Tears of The Kingdom? YAY OR NAY!? Well... this ToTK speculation rabbit hole ain't over yet!

[@No-One-Important-Here]

Skyward Sword’s time shift stones have the same eye (Zonai?) symbol on Link’s TOTK shield. Either the Zelda timeline is really a loop, how else could Zonai ruins be in Skyward Sword too?

[@drwily]

Well the zonai are presumably really old and if they are sheikah like i think they were a thing even before demise

[@gyorggames9268]

I don't know what to say about time travel tbh 🤔🤔

[@EchosOfWhiterun_5555DocOfStyle]

I think if it's done sparingly and if it's done right, then time travel itself could be possible. Hey Doc, you do indeed have a point. The concept of time travel has to have some sort of purpose and we can't just do it all willy-nilly because that would ruin everything in the story that the game creators have tried to eliminate. Could the ocarina comeback? Yes it could, but the answer is probably not. Could the timeshift stones come back? Once again a good question and one we don't have the answers for. I guess we'll see you in less than a month.... 👲

[@drwily]

100% time travel is a hard thing and most of all limits nintendos freedom of exploring ideas Also yeah we will have to wait and see

[@EchosOfWhiterun_5555DocOfStyle]

I think this is Twilight Princess Ganondorf. When he died on Hyrule Field, his body didn't disappear. They had to do something with it and now we're paying the price... 👲

[@KyleGK01]

I don't think it's him, because it would place botw and totk in the child timeline. I think this Ganondorf is a different one

[@EchosOfWhiterun_5555DocOfStyle]

That's true, but these 2 games seem to be in all different timelines. There's aspects of *Wind Waker,* *Twilight Princess,* the *Original* game, and the *Downfall* timelines. Do we really know where these games belong? It could be any one of them or even a brand NEW/even deadlier version!!! 👲🥷

[@drwily]

Now that is an interesting take imo, although four swords which comes after might mess that theory up

[@KyleGK01]

@@EchosOfWhiterun_5555DocOfStyle yes, we do in fact see things from other timelines in botw. But the fact that if this Ganondorf is the exact same from twilight princess, then it puts the entirety of botw and totk into the child timeline. it won't matter that we see things from other timelines show up in botw and totk, if the main antagonist of totk is the same Ganondorf we see in twilight princess. the reason for this is because if it's him, he still remembers that he was stopped from taking over hyrule by the hero of time, and then killed by the hero of twilight decades later. since he would be the same person who experienced all of that which is from the child timeline, it would place everything in to the child timeline. Ganondorf is the the reason why we have 3 split timelines. One where he wins the fight against the hero of time, one where he dies to the hero of time, and another where he is imprisoned. This Ganondorf has to be a completely new one.

[@haruhisuzumiya6650]

What about chrono trigger

[@JarumaruKnox]

4:47 Omg, you are the only person I see with that logical conclusion except of myself. Finally someone mentioned it 6:18 oh man, you ruined it. Of course Age of Calamity is Canon. First of all the events that Terrako traveled back in time was shown in the moment when Zelda was awaking her sealing power in Breath of the wild. Second: Terrako had the returning of the calamity in its memory, so Robelo and Purah could analyzed the datas and Zelda and Impa could see how Hyrule burns to the ground: it wasn’t’ the future they saw. It was the past of Breath of the wild for 100 years ago. The Timeline where Age of Calamity takes has another future, when we finished the game. But that means Age of Calamity and Breath of the Wild coexist together. And third: Nintendo actually worked side by side with Omega force and lead them to the story. That makes Age of Calamity canon. Of course it is.

[@HipnotikHylian]

THANK YOU 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@drwily]

You know that basically all games outside of the main series aren't canon right? First one wasn't canon either

[@drwily]

If aoc is canon than nintendo really messed up the lore of this franchise

[@JarumaruKnox]

@@drwily Sorry but I don’t agree. Why did Nintendo messed up? And which games do you mean when you said outside of the main series: Hyrule Warriors 1? The Zelda Team wasn’t even part of the game. Or do you mean Minish cap, Four Swords or the oracle games made by capcom? I agree, the first Warriors Game isn’t canon, but the events of Age of Calamity happens because of Breath of the wild Timetravel. It is inevitable that Terrako is activated when Zelda awakens her power. See the cutscenes again if necessary. The Legend of Zelda is built on parallel worlds, your own video is about that topic 😐 If anyone thinks Age of Calamity isn’t Canon, and the Story messed up with Botw’s then it isn’t Nintendos fault, it is the own ignorance of some people. We didn’t see that Terrako even existed in Botw because it isn’t important for the Story of Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom. But the attention was to show a parallel world where the conditions were being changed and led to a peaceful ending. If Age of Calamity messed up and doesn’t belong to the Legend of Zelda in your opinion, then all games after Ocarina of Time, respectively any Zelda Game after Skyward Sword isn’t canon either because there was time travel too…

[@slidersides]

I feel like some sort of time travel will be in ToTK

[@drwily]

Not sure of it myself

[@Cliffordlonghead]

Ok

[@bennycolson763]

Skyward Sword was literally the last console game before Breath of the Wild.... can't really play they used to card.

[@drwily]

Well I can because nintendo clearly has shown intentions to clean up their act, again no time travel in botw and all timelines mentioned as part of the soft reboot

[@monkeetoe1657]

Oh how right you ended up being, yet how wrong you were...

[@williamlang6728]

Time Travel? Age of Calamity has entered chat

[@fireembliam9090]

20:00 This KZbin video of yours is 20 minutes.

[@drwily]

Fax

[@Munchie13]

But Zelda isn’t dead though have you seen the new trailer?

[@drwily]

Yes but this video was made before, forgot about that line so didn't take it out lmao

[@Munchie13]

@@drwily valid

[@KyleGK01]

No offense to people who like it but I don't like the time travel theory in totk. It is really cool but I just for some reason don't want it in totk.

[@drwily]

Same mostly because it can become a cheap cop out, or makes the lore a mess again

[@TrueKoalaKnight]

OMG, really? The two Links "theory"? No. There are not two Links in two time periods. It's just Link in a Zonai costume. In a game where there are costumes the player character can wear and swap at any time, that is evidence of nothing.

[@drwily]

Just throwing arguments for the time travel stuff out there, doesn't mean I believe them

[@Manueh205]

Oh no. No more time travel and parallel universes. That ruined Age of Calamity 😢

[@HipnotikHylian]

No it didn't 😂. You're just a hater.

[@cato3277]

It did, but mostly because it completely removed it from the canon. These are two different cases entirely.

[@drwily]

100%, aoc has an ass story with zero stakes and only cheap cop.outs