Why Is The Triforce Missing? (Tears of The Kingdom Theory)

[@HyruleGamer]

What da Triforce doing these days?

[@StreetSurfersAlex]

Suing you

[@williamwalkup988]

Maybe it was stolen again. It would be the first time it happened in a 3D Zelda.

[@ozias_is_sans]

You ask where triforce is and i raise you a theory, botw and totk are an alternative universe from the “traditional” zelda games. This explains why zonai decend from the heavens instead of hylians. The triforce which is the omnipotent power of the gods, is just a symbol now. The master sword is inferior to other master sword because it has a limited use. This is the reason zora and rito exist at the same time, and finally, why did rauru found the kingdom of hyrule instead of Zelda/Link in skyward sword? Answer? Because in this timeline, skyward sword never happened. THIS could be how Nintendo is resetting the Zeldas timeline without erasing the last one. (I’d be honored if this made it on rtym!)

[@TriforceTrends]

@@StreetSurfersAlex LMAO

[@M0EM0N3Y]

I feel like the Switch Zelda games are going to be a trilogy and the third game is going to have the triforce play a heavy role it maybe like starting a soft reboot of the history of the triforce kind of like a history repeats it's self sort of thing. Form, split, fade, then repeat in an infinite loop that expands millennia. No one really knows when it starts or when it will end just that it can't truly be forgotten.

[@KiraKaiten]

My theory is each of the 3 dragons has a piece, and they draconified to keep the pieces safe. They are called the 'keepers of the springs'. It would explain why Zelda prayed to each spring, to borrow power from each dragon.

[@hanelyp1]

Yet the power of each third of the Triforce was not enough to protect the dragons from being infected by Malice. We also have 3 dragons as guardians all the way back in Skyward Sword. Though handing the pieces of the Triforce to those dragons for protection isn't unreasonable.

[@VictorJulioHurtado]

@@hanelyp1 It is unlikely. The only ones that would be able to place it there would be the Zonai, and they don't seem to have any knowledge of the Triforce except for an animistic representation of the 3 virtues with the boar, dragon, and owl. Even the tribal Hylians don't seem to know about it and the only symbol seen is the tattoo Sonia has.

[@d3va383]

Theory, the secret stones and the triforce are related and each of the dragons ate it.

[@dennisjohnson1809]

Yup I like this theory

[@mangafan589]

It would explained why zelda was able to use it to seal calamity ganon with it.

[@mrbiscuits001]

Why is the triforce missing? Link cooked it. Question answered.

[@ValtheFemboy]

Yeah Link seems like the type of guy to just eat the triforce

[@javiervasquez625]

He served it to Zelda as his "Hylia special" and she currently holds it in her stomach unnable to digest it for reasons yet revealed by Nintendo.

[@javiervasquez625]

​@@ValtheFemboy Or serve it to Zelda for lunch.

[@majesticespeon3126]

Lol

[@pere1913]

Maybe he fused it to a wooden club....😂

[@kaponofalconer831]

At the end of Skyward Sword, Impa states that, "Depending on its might is an invitation to disaster. Once it has served it's purpose, it must be sealed away. Away from human history." That can be evidence that the Triforce was indeed falling into legend

[@amanofnoreputation2164]

It's questionable how much such a statement like this is significant in practice because the whole point of sealing the Triforce away is that someone is always trying to steal it and generally succeeds at some point, so there's notihing inconsistent with it not still being sealed somewhere.

[@javiervasquez625]

@@amanofnoreputation2164 Funfact: in the japanese translation of Skyward Sword young Impa's last words to Zelda before she, Link and Groose returned to the present were: _"Protect the Triforce"._ Thusly it can be assumed from those words that Hylia and her _bloodline_ continued to watch over the Triforce across the entire timeline all the way into the Era of the Wild. The current Zelda, like Hylia, is STILL protecting the Triforce just as Impa had asked her ancestor long ago.

[@Chris-gx1ei]

​@@amanofnoreputation2164 The only Historical sources to that time were literature and inscriptions, they didnt have a video or a photo of the Triforce, the least thing they could have had back then are texts talking about it, and even then after centuries no one really believed it exists, just Because someone tells about it from the Past isnt enough evidence for them. And besides, no other human probably even witnessed the fight of the Hero and the Goddess against the Tribe of Demise, That's probably another key factor to it fading into myth, it didnt make sense to them that three students of the Knight School who they see every day saved the world

[@charlesdarwin9830]

There's a rumor that BOTW and TOTK are the first two parts of a trilogy. They point out that each of the Golden Goddesses that created the Triforce are associated with a particular color; Din with red, Nayru with blue, and Farore with green. Blue is the predominant color for BOTW and green is the same for TOTK, so the third game would have red as its predominant color. If that's true, maybe we'll see a reemergence of the Triforce in the third game. Hell, it's even possible that the Triforce could be the source of the sealing power both Rauru and Zelda have. Possibly even the source of all the powers that are amplified by Zonai Secret Stones (which are shaped suspiciously like the Amber and Dark Relics from Skyward Sword).

[@suicunesolsan]

Oh God, if they make me run around BotW Hyrule for shrines and koroks one more time, I swear...

[@birms3287]

I’m hoping that the next game, which I’m sure will not be in the style of BotW, will still tell more of the story of this new Hyrule. Like it could be a 2D Zelda that gets into the distant past, where Din, Nayru, and Farore possibly swallow the stones and turn into the 3 dragons.

[@DARKMalice9000]

I would think of it like 4 games if that was the case. Think BOTW is Blue as you say. TOTK is Green. The next is Red. And the fourth is the one to combine them

[@BioAlpha5]

I think theyll flood it and modify it a LOT if they did. @@suicunesolsan

[@testaccount7116]

Red was Age of Calamity, which makes a timeline split, just like TotK makes a timeline split.

[@19TheFallen]

One thing I noticed while reviewing the dragon tear memories: During the memory where they're fighting the Molduga that Ganondorf and the Gerudo sent at them, Rauru's magic attack briefly takes on the form of the Triforce before glowing brightly and turning into a beam of energy. So, there's one other appearance, in some indirect way or other, that it appeared.

[@thomazplays9305]

That's like it appearing when Zelda uses her sealing power.

[@raiknightshade3442]

Honestly I agree, I think it was hidden and intentionally forgotten to prevent it falling into the wrong hands. Though, I'm personally a proponent of the theory that it's in Zelda herself and is manifesting as her sealing, light and time powers, but that it's just been so long since the triforce has been a physical object that hyrule and the royal family have fully forgotten the source of these powers. Alternate theory: the secret stones are triforce shards. Discuss

[@javiervasquez625]

Another master Zelda scholar who's figured it all out. This is the one explanation that NEEDS to be spread across the fandom as it makes far _too much_ sense for it not to be true.

[@Terminaut1]

I've had a feeling that the triforce along with the sacred stones draconify. I feel that the dragons of the springs are beings who took in the triforce to hide it. The dragons don't serve much purpose aside from just dragon parts. I thought that the sacred stones could come together to make the triforce but link destroys one in the end.

[@ninkstheultimate3376]

Nah, i doubt that the secret stones are shards of the Triforce. Two reasons why: The stones are Zonai in origin, seemingly just more sacred relics designed to enhance holy or demonic power, and the Triforce has already been shown to exist in shards before (Wind Waker).

[@jcb76]

I think that it is intended that Zelda has the complete Triforce. I mean you straight up see the complete Triforce in BOTW when Zelda uses her power and it's in TOTK seen on Zelda's hand in the vision of her restoring the master sword. Note that this symbol shows all THREE segments present, not just one. This, to me, indicates that she has the complete Triforce and not just one part like in other games. We also never see the symbol of either the Triforce of courage or power with Link or Ganondorf, which you would expect to see if they possessed a piece. I also like the way that this theory implies that Zelda herself is a living embodiment of the Sacred Realm as she contains the Triforce, which contributes to how the Triforce contained within her family line is seen as a "Sacred Power".

[@javiervasquez625]

@@jcb76 Indeed it's as if Zelda's ancestors have _locked_ the Triforce within their bloodline with the intent of hiding it from the rest of the world and passing it down through mother and daughter so that it may remain hidden within the next generation ensuring that the existence of the Triforce never gets revealed. When Zelda uses her "Sealing Power" to vanquish Ganon away she's actually using the full Triforce as proven at the end of Breath of the Wild.

[@derperpines]

My only issue with the Triforce being “purposefully forgotten” is the Sheikah. They closely guard and keep track of every story, prophecy and legend. It’s their duty to keep these records closely guarded and under wraps but I doubt they’re the kinds themselves to just up and forget. A chance are they were ordered to not tell future generations of the Royal Family and others after the multiple times the Triforce had been acknowledged throughout history and targeted whether through evil plot or wars. But that’s just my grain of salt and nothing more.

[@javiervasquez625]

Considering all the bloodshed that's been spilled for _thousands of years_ because of the Triforce's existence i can easily believe the Sheikah purposely erased ANY HISTORY regarding the Triforce so that memory of it would completley fade from the world and so no future Ganondorfs, Yugas, Interlopers or any neighbouring kingdoms would ever again attempt to attack Hyrule in an attempt to claim the omnipotent relic.

[@michelled.4874]

@@javiervasquez625 "Considering all the bloodshed that's been spilled for thousands of years because of the Triforce's existence i can easily believe the Sheikah purposely erased ANY HISTORY regarding the Triforce so that memory of it would completley fade from the world and so no future Ganondorfs, Yugas, Interlopers or any neighbouring kingdoms would ever again attempt to attack Hyrule in an attempt to claim the omnipotent relic." Maybe it's time for you to grow up and wake up, Javier. You're not supposed to be an oblivious and naive little kid anymore, you're supposed to be a grown, mature adults with intelligence and life experience and eyes to see. You're not supposed to just believe what you're told by the establishment just because the establishment said it, especially when there's evidence that the establishment is evil, sadistic and tyrannical. You're supposed to question and challenge the establishment, not blindly obey it and believe its lies. Of course the Hylian royal family wants to erase any history regarding the triforce... so they can keep the triforce all to themselves and reach their goal of Hylian supremacy and world domination, which is what Zelda and her family have always wanted, and they don't care how many people suffer or die in the process. Even if it means shoving an entire race of dark-skinned women and little girls in a ghetto in the deadly desert where the wind bring nothing but death and snuff the light in those women and little girls' eyes and even if it means demonizing their leader and painting him as "villain" for revolting against the Hylian supremacist monsters who did this to his people, his people who were dying right before his eyes as he grew up when he was a little boy seething with rage and ressentment because the Hylian supremacist monsters who did this to his people, the Hylian royals, were never brought to justice, and his people were denied justice and equality. And I'm not even talking about all the other races or species that the Hylian supremacist royal family of Hyrule has wronged, harmed, killed, violently conquered, forceful "reunified" in a global Hylian monarchy under threat or death or exile in a ghetto similar to the one in the deadly desert that killed so many Gerudo. I'm not even talking about all the people that the Hylian supremacist royal family disappeared somewhere in their underground torture and killing chambers that were never seen again. Here's a big non-exhaustive list of all the horrific crimes and atrocities that the Hylian royal family has committed against the various peoples of Hyrule (the Gerudo, the Sheikah, the Twili, and countless other races/species): kzbin.info/aero/PLzG_3q50DuPkRcOm-vIy4hvnUyvKV5O-t The Hylian royal family are NOT the "good guys" that some people think they are. And when some people, like Ganondorf revolt against such tyranny, racism, injustice, persecution, Hylian supremacist ideology, genocide, torture, murder, global mass mind reading and global mass surveillance through Sheikah stones (they punish people for "thought crimes" and kill anyone who so much as thing of any dissent in gruesome ways as can be seen in the Shadow Temple, the Well of Three Features and the Arbiter's Grounds which was built on top of the Gerudo's dessecrated Spirit Temple by the Hylian royal family who plastered their crest on it and then mass genocided all the Gerudo and sent the remaining few dissenters to the Twilight Realm which is why there isn't a single Gerudo left in the desert in Twilight Princess and all the Gerudo homes/buildings are crumbling ruins), horrific human experimentation and violence against themselves and their own people by the Hylian royal family, they are demonized and painted as "villains" by the Hylian royal family who of course rewrite history to make it look like they're the "good guys" (history is rewritten by the victors and as Napoleon Bonaparte said, "History is a lie agreed upon"), even though the evidence of their horrific crimes and atrocities are found all over Hyrule, especially in the Shadow Temple, the Well of Three Features, Arbiter's Grounds, a hidden cave in Zora's Domain with invisible Skulltulas in OOT that can only be seen with the lens of truth (there's also a gold Skulltulas there), and most probably the giant colloseum seen in OOT and many other places, especially underground places. "Shadow Temple. Here lies Hyrule's bloody history of greed and hatred." Also, see this: www.zeldadungeon.net/forum/threads/major-theory-the-evil-and-fascist-hylian-royal-family-practices-global-mass-mind-reading-and-global-mass-surveillance.75372/ www.zeldadungeon.net/forum/threads/major-theory-the-hylian-royal-family-stooped-so-low-as-to-experiment-with-magic-to-create-armies-of-undead-monsters-and-invisible-monsters.75846/ There's a crap ton of evidence that the Hylian royal family are NOT the "good guys" that most if not all of us have been socially conditioned to believe they are growing up. My playlist and my two posts are just a few examples. "Better to get hurt by the truth than comforted with a lie." - Khaled Hosseini. Take care, Mimi.

[@dawnkryxel]

​@@javiervasquez625except for one small flaw. The triforce itself would want to be found. I mean in twilight princess the trio get their piece even without touching the item itself. So it stands to reason that the object/power is sentient. And with the triangles being present with Zelda it would stand to reason that botw3 *should* have link hunting the artifact to save Zelda in some way.

[@javiervasquez625]

@@dawnkryxel What you're referring to regarding the Triforce splitting in Twilight Princess has to do with the "divine prank" mentioned by the Light Sage addressing the mysterious appereance of the Triforce of Power in Ganondorf's right hand despite him never entering the Sacred Realm to claim it in the Child Timeline just as he already did in the Adult Timeline. This "prank" is a reference to the ending of Ocarina of Time where after Link was sent back to the past by Zelda he arrived with the Triforce of Courage still in his possession as a _chain reaction_ from Ganondorf splitting it in the Adult Timeline causing it to also split in the Child Timeline. In simple terms it wasn't the Triforce _itself_ which willingly chose to split in the Child Timeline out of it's own volition but rather a reaction of Ganondorf having already broken the Triforce in the Adult Timeline causing the Child Timeline's Triforce to do the same. This "prank" was Ganondorf having already gained the Triforce of Power in another timeline causing his Twilight Princess version to also gaining it as a result. The Triforce has never done anything out of it's own volition.

[@edvance1030]

@@javiervasquez625What if someone wished to the Triforce to erase everyone's memories of it? That would explain everything.

[@hexywesky]

Im honestly ready to believe the zelda team just isnt ready to tackle reintroducing the tri force in a new way. It works much more easily in games where your imagination fills in a lot of the blanks, but you never really see it do anything and its sort of mysterious. So i think they just wanna wait until they think of something really good to do with it.

[@homerman76]

We've seen it do things in 3 games, Skyward Sword, Wind Waker, and A Link Between Worlds, but it is true that an almighty wish granter requires more thought so you aren't repeating the same wishes and motives over and over again, like how Dragon Ball both deviated away from them to have villains with other goals and ran into issues with stuff like death not meaning much because they were abused too frequently to be a bit of a reset button

[@javiervasquez625]

@@homerman76 You forgot A Link to the Past where (spoilers) it revived every single character killed by Ganondorf practically undoing all of his evil deeds prior to Agahnim appearing in the Light World. Just pointing it out.

[@TheCreator1875]

It quite literally appears on zeldas hand when she uses her powers in botw there’s quite an explicit tell of it’s location already

[@dannyK64]

10:59 I think Zelda already has the full triforce, as all the pieces glow in her hand in BOTW. Also in this exact shot you can see her right hand again glowing while fixing the master sword, not her recall tear necklace but her hand where the Triforce should be. I am even pretty sure you can see the triangle shape if you look close, her hand is only slightly turned.

[@supercharged5-39]

yeah

[@Chris-gx1ei]

The same happens to Link in Zelda 2, yet he didnt even had the full thing, he only collected the Pieces of Wisdom to even oppose Ganon and then take the Triforce of Power from him. Courage was yet hidden

[@javiervasquez625]

​@@Chris-gx1ei Both the Oracle games and Skyward Sword make it very clear that the symbol on the Hero's hand is NOT because he carries the Triforce but simply that he has a _balanced heart_ which allows him to be the Hero of Legends. In the case of Zelda the symbol of the Triforce appears at very _specific_ moments where she unleashes her "Sealing Power" without ever been deemed balanced like the Heroes from the Oracle games and Skyward Sword.

[@ezequielschlaen5992]

I've been a firm believer of that since I saw that cutscene

[@KBroly]

If you alter the colors of the scene, you can see it on her hand in that scene. The image of that scene shown in the credits leads you to that conclusion as well.

[@macroc0smic]

Maybe three Zonai (or anyone really) were selected to hide away the pieces of the Triforce to protect it and they did so by swallowing the pieces and turning into three dragons: Naydra, Farosh and Dinraal. Mineru didn't lie about how you shouldn't reverse dragonfication, she was merely restating what had been told to her through generations to deter anyone from trying to reach the Triforce. In this sense, the Triforce could be in plain sight and unreachable AND lost from memory (dragons lose their sense of self after all).

[@gorgonaa]

I’m hoping that within TOTK’s DLC will go mor in-depth about the dragons along with something possibly linking them to the Triforce!

[@LMKRMD]

And the dragon bones around hyrule

[@judaiyuki5597]

totk was a giant dlc pack do you really think there will be dlc for it? i mean dont get me wrong i would love that but it was confirmed that totk was only made because it started as a bunch of dlc ideas for botw and became too much for dlc

[@LMKRMD]

@judaiyuki5597 they still didn't answer alot about the story and stuff about the dragons

[@judaiyuki5597]

@@LMKRMD in botw the zonai were brought up but never explained so the dragons might not be talked about until "the legend of zelda: gannondorfs demise"

[@charlie5isalive918]

​@judaiyuki5597 Yes, there will definitely be dlc for totk because money.

[@excalibur2078]

I have a theory that the Triforce was split apart and turned into the three dragons. Each dragon has a name that is similar to the three golden goddesses, they guard three springs of power wisdom and courage, and it would be the perfect way to keep it out of the hands of evil. Also, who would think to look for three dragons that are just flying around the world?

[@JakeofRage]

I think lore wise the triforce fading into obscurity for its protection is logical and is consistent with theories that Raru's hyrule is a new one after a collapse of the kingdom, possibly related to the struggle for the triforce.

[@Joe-ik1ph]

I think somebody used the Triforce to erase all knowledge of the Triforce. It would prevent people from fighting over the Triforce without having to destroy it like Lorule did. The three triangles are now seen as symbols of the Three Golden Goddess, and a symbol of the royal family.

[@javiervasquez625]

So they hid it inside Zelda's bloodline, erased ANY historial record of it's existence and so prevent any future Ganondorfs and co. from _knowing_ of it's existence and thus seeking to claim it leading to more bloodshed and suffering. Speaking out loud this was an amazing plan the Royal Family came up with.

[@kevinbaumhoer7359]

ever played Wind Waker in this game the Triforce was forevre lost into The Ocean at the end along with Hyrule

[@mr.awesome6011]

Not unlike how Midna completely destroyed the Mirror of Twilight. To prevent any malevolent outside forces from entering her realm and tainting it once again.

[@Actual_Gabe]

6:14 I always thought they were making Link's recall ability supercharged to the point where it could return someone to their original state.

[@NatetheSensitivePlant]

I actually thought the same. We learned from the dragon fight that the stone is still present and from the molduga memory that they can work together to supercharge each other so maybe it returned to zelda as she was, rewinding what happened/pulling the stone out of her.

[@amyeasler2086]

Same i thought they were using sonias time powers and rarus light powers threw link to recall zelda

[@NatetheSensitivePlant]

@@amyeasler2086 especially, as we saw in the dragon Ganon fight, the secret stone still existed physically, so it being there to be recalled out of her makes sense. Or it just rewinded her until she was in a previous state. Either way works

[@LadyXenif9006]

In my headcanon, it is theoretically still in the Silent Realm of the Sky Keep most likely Portaled from underneath the mother Goddess Statue, it would also explain why she gives you the Goddess Sword, because no hero was needed to claim it since Demise was prematurely eradicated.

[@willian1917]

so from where it came the master sword we used in botw and totk?

[@LadyXenif9006]

@willian1917 it's been there since the Hero of the Sky placed it there. The Master Sword can transcend time. Which means it can exist in that new timeline and the one he went back to.

[@javiervasquez625]

​@@LadyXenif9006 Disproven by the book Creating a Champion stating _all the timelines_ take place before the Era of the Wild.

[@jacksonvoet8312]

Well, since fragments of Hylia still exist despite reincarnating into the first Zelda, maybe Hylia just threw it further into the sacred realm than feasibly reachable, and people just forgot about it because nobody could get to it for so long.

[@shinymk6562]

I nerver understood why everyone is confused. Obviously after Zelda had it appear on her hand, Link asked her to use her power for a hot minute and he ate them thinking they were regenerative doritos.

[@warpedwhimsical]

The image of the triforce also briefly appears in the energy of Rauru’s attack on the Molduga swarm.

[@denstsunogemaandrewvelasco8339]

My headcanon is that with the fall of the original kingdom of hyrule the knowledge of thw triforce also fell with it. With countless ages passing by and the only remnants being the symbolism that carried on with the archaic hylians eben though the meaning behind it was forgotten

[@javiervasquez625]

The Triforce cannot "fall" or be destroyed as proven in A Link between Worlds where Princess Hilda's ancestor wished for their Triforce's DESTRUCTION leading to the ENTIRE WORLD tearing itself appart as a reaction of the power of the goddesses ceasing to exist. The Triforce is a source of *balance* to the Zelda universe which keeps everything together making it impossible for it to cease existing.

[@denstsunogemaandrewvelasco8339]

@@javiervasquez625 well when I said fell I didn't mean to say it was destroyed more like it's legacy fell and faded from memory

[@Llortnerof]

@@javiervasquez625 Read again. *"knowledge* of the triforce fell with it"

[@anonymousrex5207]

There is so much hinting at a connection to the triforce throughout the game: three springs named after the three parts of the triforce, three dragons that are linked to each spring, a mother goddess that is connected to each of the springs, the secret stones looking just like the tears from skyward sword, the various triforce symbols that appear, plus the zonai animals representing the three parts of the triforce as well. Also worth noting was when Rauru used his powers, he had a third eye on his forehead and would place his hands in a position to form a triangle. All of this makes me think that the magic being used is drawing from the triforce... wherever it is... and it may be less of a physical object at this point and more of an energy within the world that certain people are able to draw from or tap into.

[@dafilmqueen556]

You mean like the Force in Star Wars?

[@Houndlock643]

I can answer that question. BOTW/TOTK are not a part of the main timeline. Rather they run parallel to the main timeline, however unlike the main timeline, it’s not cursed with a timeline split; meaning any and all games that took place in the main timeline took place here in a more chronological (??) order, and with slightly different variables and outcomes. But now to answer where the Triforce is. Where is it? I think the answer is pretty obvious, when you take into consideration HOW this parallel timeline was created. There is only one possible scenario where this could occur, and that is the past timeline in Skyward Sword. Specifically the one that was created when Link defeats Demise in the past, and leaves for the present. With Demise defeated, there’s no need for Ghirahim to kidnap Zelda, Link never finds the Goddess Sword, he never goes on his grand adventure, AND HE NEVER DISCOVERS THE TRIFORCE IN THE SKY ISLANDS. (Ever find it funny how the Goddess Sword AND the Master Sword are in the same game as two different swords, when they’re both canonically the SAME SWORD?? (In TOTK))

[@SoulOfJustice1994]

Allowing the knowledge of the Triforce to be erased from the collective memory of Hyrule does make sense. Maybe something happened before Rauru founded the current kingdom of Hyrule to necessitate this course of action. But Rauru didn't seem to know of it either, so it would have happened long before his time.

[@mazhiwezakizo3513]

I believe the knowledge of the Triforce has simply faded from memory and history. Even the "Past" events of the games, when Gannondorf was sealed, is likely hundreds or thousands of years after the last time any of his previous incarnations sought after it. In all of the previous games the Triforce was still a known and remembered relic, and Ganondorf in those games knew of it's existence. Most of the previous games involved only one or two incarnations of Ganon, as he was typically only sealed away in most of them, and rarely was he fully killed. So every time Ganon returned, he still retained his memory of the Triforce, even if others knew very little of it's existence. So in this case, this is a brand new incarnation of Ganon, who wouldn't have memories and knowledge of the Triforce automatically, and now the Triforce is pretty much forgotten about, so he has no reason to pursue something he doesn't know about.

[@zitrodivad]

i really think there's gonna be a third installment in a few years to complete a trilogy, and on that third installment the triforce will play an important part. my theory is that koume and kotake are still alive (or spirits? or maintained alive through magic? kinda like purah and her age reversal tech?) and they'll use the triforce to revive ganondorf on the third installment. and gameplay-wise, my theory is that that third installment's main gimmick will be magic masks (maybe the ancient hero's aspect is foreshadowing of this, kinda like how the master cycle zero in botw was foreshadowing for totk, i mean, link does completely transform when wearing this, maybe majora's mask gimmicks of transforming into other races will be part of this returning magic mask gimmick). Also in the totk flashbacks, koume and kotake are wearing golden MASKS. and to add to all of this, i speculate that magic musical instruments might come back too? and we'll be able to change the weather with it together with other magical musical abilities. but again, this is all my speculations and theories, would be awesome. but who knows?

[@SplatBlobby]

Sounds like Majora's Mask

[@Memo-yh4nc]

Something I want to point out is that Link definitely doesn’t have the Triforce of Courage here. Ganondorf showed that the Triforce grants you pseudo-immortality and can prevent fatal blows in TP. Link definitely died/was extremely close to death and needed the Shrine of Resurrection to heal himself. If he had the Triforce, he should have been able to survive the assault of the Guardians. You could argue that the reason he didn’t is because of the differences between Power and Courage but they both augment and enhance the wielders abilities. It feels weird to me that one would grant immortality while the other doesn’t, especially since they should both hold the same amount of strength. Secondly, in TP again, the start of the game shows Link being smacked in the back of the head and left at the Ordon Spring. King Bulbin decided to kidnap the kids at Ordon, but just chose to left Link. Why is that? It makes me think that the reason he didn’t is because he assumed that the Bulbin already killed Link. This can show how the Triforce saved Link’s life after a fatal blow. I know the Manga’s aren’t canon, but the TP Manga chose to run with this idea as well, since Link was clearly show to be very badly injured during this fight, and it was shown that the Triforce saved his life and healed him. It would also narratively contrast Link with Ganondorf well, since it shows both of them being saved by the Power of the Gods they possess.

[@avon_c6199]

Zelda either has the entire Triforce in her possession and just doesn't refer to it or know it by the name "Triforce", perhaps only as the "Sacred Power"..... or the Triforce is located somewhere else entirely (Sacred Realm) and she is acting as a mediator, with the bloodline of the Goddess Hylia passed down through her family enabling her to access its powers like some sort of key, you know.

[@hokton8555]

why does Rauru have the light power tho

[@CivRev10]

Thankfully you included the edit. Do not understand every single zelda theory youtuber hasn't seen the triforce as the primary source of healing the master sword in that scene.

[@WordsInVain]

06:19 Bear in mind that Rauru and Sonia were not dead when Mineru conveyed this... And take also note that they are operating _through_ link as a medium for their power...

[@rinthewolf]

My personal headcanon is that someone used the triforce to erase all knowledge of itself. Probably a previous Zelda. It would leave it as nothing more than a design related to the royal family, thus stopping people from actively looking for it. Then even if the pieces did attach themselves to people like with the usual trio, they wouldn't see it as anything other than a symbol that appears when they use whatever power it gave them. Because even it if did pass into legend and was forgotten, there would eventually be someone who comes across a written record and starts up the search all over again. Unless you magically erase all that knowledge, with the possible exception of beings like the Dragons.

[@sophitiaofhyrule]

I think the full Triforce is inside Zelda, which would explain why she is so much more powerful than her previous incarnations. Heck, in the Modulga cutscene she's shown to be much more powerful than both Sonia and Rauru.

[@thebros861]

What if we get a triforce dlc? Imagine when link is sleeping, he gets a dream from Fi that shows the location of the triforce and he has to go there?

[@thezeldadragon6202]

My theory is that the arrival of the Zonai played a large role in the disappearance of the Triforce from memory. If you follow the refounding theory, when the Zonai arrived from wherever they came from, they’d have likely wanted to secure their rule as the leaders of Hyrule and thus would have had incentive to try and erase the previous Hylian royal family and their legacy, seen in older Zelda games from memory. Rauru’s ancestors may have actively destroyed all mention of the triforce and any relics/documents from the era of myth to secure their control. Especially as a lot of it links the older Hylian royals to Hylia herself and portrays them as the rightful leaders of Hyrule rather than the Zonai. This also explains why Rauru and Sonia have never heard of the name Zelda or Link as all evidence of their previous incarnations, aside from myths and stories, had been purposely lost. (Feel free to let me know what you think about this!)

[@obits3]

Not sure if they actually have it, but the power of the Tri-force was likely used to restore Zelda: Link is still clearly Courage. Sonia says she shares a blood connection with Zeldla. Sonia also declaires that Widsom takes time and Rauru says it is hard to keep things fro Sonia. She's Wisdom. Rauru demonstrates overwhelming power in one memory and goes head to head with the demon king. His arm also gives the "power to create" and he is King, the ultimate in political power. Rauru is the element of Power. These three came together to restore Zelda.

[@javiervasquez625]

The Triforce was _inside_ Zelda during the scene yet it's possible that the "spiritual" connection between Link's Courage, Sonia's Wisdom and Rauru's Power may have somehow "awakened" the Triforce from within Zelda granting them their desire (or wish) for Zelda to regain her human self.

[@NatetheSensitivePlant]

I had an idea that builds off of yours. The triforce has always either been sealed, taken, or held by those that represent it most. What if something happened that made the triforce even less physical than ever to the point where it is always changing hands to be held by whoever represents the virtues most at any given time? So when Sonia and Rauru intervened and zelda had lost her mind and ganon defeated Sonia, Rauru and Link were the ones in hyrule who represented them most allowing them the use of the full triforce for a little while until it changed hands again. thanks for coming to my ted talk I would love to hear peoples thoughts

[@javiervasquez625]

@@NatetheSensitivePlant A possibility worth indulging for the sake of conversation but not a very convincing scenario due to the clear impotence that both Rauru and Link shared in their fight against Ganondorf. Considering the _omnipotent_ nature of the Triforce it wouldn't make any sense for either Link or Rauru not to have the power to wish Ganondorf away from existence by simply asking the Triforce to grant them their wish and be done with him altogether. Since neither Link or Rauru ever depict such a power in their graps it's more than likely they neither is in possession of the Triforce during the events of the game. PS: In the case of Zelda been the one carrying the Triforce _inside_ of her one can argue the reason why she doesn't display the power to command it to her heart's content is because the Triforce is _locked_ within her body after "some else" wished to the Triforce to dwell within Hylia's bloodline to prevent villains from ever learning of it's existence and repeat the tragedies commited in the past (Ocarina of Time, The Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, etc.).

[@NatetheSensitivePlant]

@@javiervasquez625 if your theory involves Zelda possessing and using the entire triforce even for just a moment, why didn't she wish Ganon away? Why didn't this ancestor use the triforce to bring the cycle to a complete end?Either your logic is flawed or the triforce isn't quite as omnipotent as you may think I believe that the triforce isn't present fully in anyone or at least they are not aware of it and instead hops around to give those who represent it most, a little boost of divine power.

[@javiervasquez625]

@@NatetheSensitivePlant It's because Zelda does not _possess_ the Triforce like one would normally would but instead carries it as a _vessel_ after the last owner of the Triforce *WISHED* for it to be locked inside the many princesses of the Royal Family for the sole purpose of erasing it's existence from History and so _permanently_ prevent any more tragedies like those commited by Ganondorf across the timeline to EVER repeat again. Put simply some past ancestor of Zelda from before Rauru's marriage with Sonia wished the Triforce to _forever_ remain hidden inside the descendants of Hylia with the limited ability to wield the omnipotent power in moments of dire need to ensure it's true nature would never be known by the world to kickstart the wars all over again. There's a very convincing video about the subject by the channel @Monster Maze which you MUST watch to understand why it's extremely likely that the full Triforce dwells within Zelda and the reason why she doesn't have full control over it. Just write down "Triforce Monster Maze" in browser and you'll find it.

[@JessSimpson1313]

Maybe the last holder of the Tri-Force wished for it to be forgotten. So even themselves wouldn't remember it, but as or was carved, written, and stamped on pretty much everything it's symbology exists as basically "legend"

[@firebirdfiction7590]

Somebody wished on the triforce that the triforce would be forgotten by everyone? Or maybe the sacred stones are themselves pieces of the triforce. But really what I want to know is assuming the dragon tear memories take place after the age of legends (and i do wonder if that is a safe assumption) then what is going on with the Sheikah eye symbol being the literal Zonai eye even though the symbol existed way before we know the zonai did? Were the zonai in the background from way before skyward sword? Did the sheikah become the zonai somehow and then through breeding with hylians turn back into humans? I mean there must be some connection between the zonai and sheikah...

[@Llortnerof]

Possible. We know from Between Worlds that removing the triforce itself is not an option, but putting it somewhere inaccessible and removing knowledge would work just fine. The Zonai eye is a bit different, though. Enough so that it could simply be convergent "evolution", both groups having similar icons by mere chance.

[@MuljoStpho]

In the memories, in either the first meeting or in another early memory when Zelda was first getting acquainted with Rauru and Sonia, I got a major vibe of TMC's Picori and the "gift" of the "light force" that they left with the royal family. I get the impression from the way TotK handled things that Nintendo did a full reboot and only BotW and TotK are canon now (which would simplify things for your question since Rauru and Sonia's founding of the kingdom could then be taken at face value instead of needing to make room for an earlier kingdom in a different era), but the setup with Rauru and Sonia feels like a reinvention of that bit of TMC's lore. Just replace the Picori with Zonai in the new canon, and recontextualize the "light force" as hereditary "sage of light" powers. The "gift" is then about ancestry instead of being some obscure relic that was handed off. (Granted, TotK does leave that as an apparent plot hole. Rauru and Sonia have to have produced at least one child to start the royal lineage that leads to Zelda. But we saw no child, and...) I don't know what to say about the Sheikah with this train of thought... Something about a servant class who worked for the Zonai, maybe? I think Sonia was supposed to be some sort of high priestess before the marriage made her a queen? Just a random thought but what if the Sheikah order grew out of whatever religious order Sonia came from? People who already lived their lives in devotion to Hylia or whoever else, and then these real live gods came to them and their high priestess marries one of the gods. Sounds like enough to reshape what the order stands for, creating an order dedicated to protecting the divine heritage of the royal family spawned from that union. Hmmm.... What would be the Yiga's story then? Imagine that Sonia's order fractures as some of them may have seen the worship of the Zonai "false gods" (and their abomination of a royal family) as blasphemy... How do they end up effectively worshiping a false god of their own then? Their god is the usurper whose dark power came from stealing a powerful Zonai artifact. That should be blasphemy to their original faith too.

[@Llortnerof]

​@@MuljoStpho I'd be more willing to believe that if there weren't so many relics from the other games lying around.

[@Ahouro]

@@MuljoStpho Botw and Totk are not a reboot they are still connected to the past games because Aonuma has confirmed that Botw and Totk is after Oot on the timeline and king Rauru´s Hyrule is a refounding is the theory with the least contradiction..

[@bepis3095]

I also notice that when she fell at the beginning of TOTK her hand also lights up before she disappears into the past.

[@zdrtransission2850]

I also think that it was removed in order to keep it out of evil's hands. However, I also think that it was the Golden Goddesses themselves who removed it from the world. I think that the goddesses consumed their respective pieces a la the secret stones, going against the will of Hylia, and as divine punishment they were turned into the 3 dragons we see in BotW and TotK. This could be where the legend of draconification comes from as what exactly causes it: divine punishment.

[@alecschilling2691]

Kind of exactly what I was just thinking. What if some individuals thousands of years ago split the triforce and consumed the pieces or otherwise fuse/bonded with them ultimately to become the three other dragons. It being the three goddesses themselves is a cool thought.

[@HylianSwamp123]

I think something like that would be a cool idea, but the golden goddesses are above hylia in terms of the goddess hierarchy in the series. Hylia was created by the three goddesses to watch over the world and the triforce then the golden goddesses returned to the realm of the gods. I do think the divine punishment idea is a good idea tho

[@javiervasquez625]

Guys the goddesses are *OMNIPOTENT* BEINGS why would they turn into MORTAL beings easily threathened by Ganondorf's Malice as seen with Naydra in Breath of the Wild? That's like if the Christian God saw how messed up the Universe is and decided one day to _cease existing_ just because of it.

[@javiervasquez625]

​@@alecschilling2691 The 3 dragons are ZONAI like Rauru and Mineru without any involvement from the Triforce in their draconification as per Zelda's own transformation into the Light Dragon courtesy of Rauru's future secret stone. The full Triforce is currently INSIDE Zelda.

[@HylianSwamp123]

@@javiervasquez625 I didn't even think to bring up the omnipotent point, but yeah that would be a little silly of them. I think the triforce thing is still kinda up in the air, she might have the triforce but if she does, why doesn't she use it to its fullest extent, and if not, why does the symbol show up on her hand? I think that has a little more nuance to it than she for sure has it, but everything else you said yes I agree

[@avaklyce]

also!! you can literally see the triforce with “zelda” on the tapestry that impa shows you in botw

[@rockout242]

Could the triforce have been used to bring the timelines together? Like Ganon wished to create an army of the strongest warriors who share his goal and he could trust, so himself from other timelines.

[@Einlanzer83]

No.

[@Obeliiix]

@@Einlanzer83 Yes!

[@javiervasquez625]

¿Why the Triforce and not the _Golden Goddesses_ themselves who *created* the Triforce in the first place? If the Triforce has the power to unify timelines then it's more than certain that the goddesses can as well. You can call it "divine intervention" which joined the 3 timelines together to create the Era of the Wild.

[@Einlanzer83]

@@Obeliiix No. There is no evidence to support such a theory.

[@Obeliiix]

@@Einlanzer83 There's no evidence to refute it either. It's Zelda, not hard science.

[@BakkerfeelingAdventures]

Nintendo had stated to change up some of the dynamics of the Zelda franchise and with BOTW and TOTK we have seen such changes. From missing the 8 big dungeons to the triforce and some other changes. The complete triforce is within the reincarnation of the Goddess Hylia, Zelda. You can see the 3 pieces on her hand when she uses her divine power. When the triforce is split, only one piece would show up on the hand of those holding a piece. In several other games it is also referred that the complete triforce had been in hands of the kingdom in occasions and later split into 3 pieces (First 2 games). So we have seen the triforce being hidden, being split and being in complete possession of the kingdom/Zelda along the franchise. Great video, well put together and appreciate the jokes. Very entertaining to watch, thanks for the works.

[@gregoryleverton]

I think Zelda has the whole thing. Not only do we see it shine on her hand when she uses her power, this version of zelda seems much more powerful then previous incarnations, even ones we know have the triforce of wisdom

[@kjadngynnesson6435]

Well, the princess has it. The "sealing power" she was trying to awaken was the wish of the Triforce. The springs were meant to bring her into balance, and therefore capable of using it. When she uses it, the full Triforce appears on her hand, not just the Wisdom piece. The full Triforce was also shown healing the Master Sword. She has it, it's in her. Her mother had it before her, and her mother before that, most likely. It's called a "sealing power" because that's what generations of princesses and queens were trained to wish for. They may not even know it is a wish or that they could do anything else with the wish. They were just trained generation after generation to seal Ganon. Don't believe me? You should pay very close attention to the ending of The Adventure of Link, and what led up to it. ;)

[@silvermew6754]

I'd argue her mother didn't have it, but her grandmother did. I think there was a line that said something like her mother's sealing power would awaken in Zelda. So it skips a generation to only be in one person at a time. But otherwise I 100% agree with you

[@javiervasquez625]

It's likely that the Royal Family of the past hid the Triforce inside their bloodline for the very purpose of preventing it's existence to convince any Evil being (Ganondorf, Yuga, the Interlopers, other kingdoms, etc.) from killing and destroying in their mad attempts to obtain it. By hiding the Triforce inside Hylia's descendants and then _erasing_ it's existence from the eons of History the Royal Family has permanently prevented any past games from EVER repeating themselves again.

[@Shinntoku]

Glad I'm not the only one looking back on The Adventure of Link's connections to TotK 👀

[@javiervasquez625]

@@Shinntoku I still ask myself why did the "Prince" become so evil despite sharing Hylia's blood with his sister (Zelda). My only guess is that the Prince is _not_ a descendant of Hylia like Zelda instead been a far off relative who was brought into the Royal Family similar to king Rhoam after he married the queen.

[@warpedwhimsical]

This seems like to be the case but my only issue is that Zelda’s bloodline has always had a sealing power independent of the Triforce that comes from the goddess Hylia. In Skyward Sword, Zelda seals Demise for thousands of years despite the fact that the Triforce is locked away in Sky Keep and Link is the spiritual owner of all three pieces. Other incarnations of Zelda have also wielded sacred power while not possessing the entirety of the Triforce

[@Impossiblah]

The Light Force is *not* the Triforce, despite appearances. It being the Triforce is directly contradicted by its lore as being both a gift from the Minish, and coming from all living beings. Yes it's confusing, especially since the depiction of it in Hylian Iconography is as a single golden triangle-I take that to simply be how Hylians conceptualize "Forces" of power-as golden triangles, because the prototypical ones literally are three golden triangles.

[@duckerdoo]

The flower lady has it.

[@HyruleGamer]

Spot on

[@dracul1984]

The triforce isn't missing. When Rauru fires the magic blast on Ganondorf's forces, you see it take shape. Also, when Link is on dragon Zelda's back, notice the distinct transitions. Link and Zelda are transported to the Sacred Realm. The scenes carefully don't show the light source. That isn't the sun illuminating everything. It most surely is the Triforce! We don't see it, but you can see Link gazing upon it.

[@InvincibleSummer7]

I believe Zelda herself has the full Triforce and like you stated near the end of the video, knowledge of its existence faded into legend as its been the object of countless wars and that's why Zelda ,being an incarnation of Hylia (Who is tasked with guarding the Triforce) would be the best candidate utilize and safeguard the Triforce in the form of "Sealing power". Zelda/Hylia carrying the full Triforce insures the safety of Hyrule.

[@frenche4life]

Interesting! While playing I was struck by the secret stones and how new they were. How we had never heard of them. Then when they said they amplified the powers of whoever held them, I wondered if maybe the triforce of power had been shattered, similar to parts of the triforce being shattered in OG Zelda and Windwaker. If the triforce of power was shattered and spread among the Zonai for protection (with three of them swallowing their pieces) then maybe only the shards of power remain with the complete triforce seemingly disappearing as it will never be complete again. As long as there are dragons at least.

[@hiddendesire3076]

2:45 Except in Wind Waker where he wanted to unflood Hryule and the Gerudo Desert. Before you say it still evil as he’d rule it all, think of it. They are on MOUNTAIN TOPS. All islander life is essentially doomed to be stifled in those wonders. Hell, it isn’t until the exploration work of Link, Tetra, and her crew found the mountainous landscape of New Hyrule that there was really a chance for the islanders to even rebuild to some fraction of what Hyrule once was.

[@Applemangh]

I'm partial to the idea that the secret stones are actually pieces of it, or at least pieces of the "power" part, which could explain why they amplify the natural powers of those who hold them. Individual triangles of the triforce have been broken down into smaller pieces before, and It'd be a nice way to tie everything together.

[@fishnewt1331]

I personally am a fan of the Zelda has the Triforce theory. Though it’s symbol has been used to represent magic, the way Zelda’s does is specifically on the back of her hand just below her knuckles. The same place it usually is when someone possesses it. On a different topic, I wonder what that cloudy, dream-like Astral Plane is. It feels almost identical to the realm OoT Zelda and Link were in before Zelda sent Link back through time. (TotK Zelda sadly could never) I wonder if that is what the Sacred Realm is. It’s obvious it takes different forms, like the Temple of Light is housed there as the Chamber of Sages, whereas another part of the Sacred Realm was where Ganondorf was briefly sealed in two timelines. Yet, still, the Sacred Realm seems to resemble the sky islands in A Link Between Worlds and we do see vague silhouettes of Hyrule in the background. So much theory fodder!

[@QuasarEE]

I am fairly convinced you are legit in the Sacred Realm during the Master Sword cutscene for one reason. The golden sky. "In a realm beyond sight the sky shines gold, not blue. There, the Triforce's might makes mortal dreams come true."

[@ackulakan]

I believe this all happens in the adult victory timeline where Wind Waker takes place. It makes the most sense and also why the triforce is still MIA.

[@henryhobbitbox]

This new version of Hyrule might be completely separate from the ones previous in the timeline so maybe the secret stones are perhaps a way to replace the triforce just split into more pieces. The goddesses as explained in OoT were meant to be three different elements to create a world. I feel like in this game the stones are meant to symbolize all of the elements that are put into the world given how they have elements. Although I could be wrong as the stones only reflect the owners powers and not what the gods had.

[@Defender1876]

that or these are really branched off from a timeline of skyward sword

[@jpants36]

@@Defender1876 imo, another timeline branching off skyward sword when link went back to defeat demise makes the most sense

[@Ahouro]

No Botw and Totk are not separated from the previous games because Aonuma has confirmed that they are after Oot on the timeline.

[@Ahouro]

@@jpants36 A timeline split from Skyward sword makes no sense and is impossible.

[@jpants36]

@@Ahouro interesting. would love to hear what you think

[@amethystthemyth-amophieon]

The golden Relic can't be gone like permanently from the world of Hyrule if you remember what happened to lorule the opposite of Hyrule their Triforce was gone and their world was starting to suffer and literally fall back into the abyss of darkness. So I agree that the Triforce is probably in some other realm that we cannot access yet. But it would be cool if Nintendo made a DLC for tears of the Kingdom are we could board either more about the Zoni, and what happened to the Triforce.

[@jellydogfish3249]

Personally, I think that because in the champions book like the 3 timelines got fused, there was most definitely at least some chaos so maybe the dragons, zonai, and/or the hyleans hid it & in the next game that comes we would go either back in the past or just look for it. Maybe we will learn more about it in the dlc too but idk.

[@jellydogfish3249]

Or we would reverse the dragons into their original state and they could tell us or have the triforce

[@lasercraft32]

I find it interesting how Botw/Totk is the latest point in the Zelda timeline (in all three timeline splits even), and it seems that its been so long that the legend of the Triforce has faded into obscurity for the most part. Few people even mention the Golden Goddesses either, so it seems that most of Hyrule's religions have been forgotten over time, leaving only Hylia as the sole well-known goddess/power. They don't even attribute Zelda's sealing power to the Triforce or the goddess, they credit it as a power of the royal family instead.

[@linkspokemon4114]

I think its heavily implied that zelda has the full triforce, or at least able to tap into it even from the sacred realm, cause she is the reincarnation of Hylia!

[@breadleyj]

I have a theory - could be super wrong but hey, that's what makes theories fun Also just gonna throw in here, major spoilers for the whole game. This is also really long and I'm only partially sorry for that lmao ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I think Zelda has the entire Tri-Force and has been unknowingly keeping it safe. We saw her hand light up with the symbol in BOTW when she saves Link's life (and then later with the Master Sword Memory). Then, that same Zelda goes back in time in TOTK to the beginning of Hyrule, tens of thousands of years - before anyone knew about the Tri-Force. She then turns into an immortal dragon, sealing away the Tri-Force, herself and the Master Sword until present day Hyrule and Link, who can save them all. I'm very shaky on the OG early timeline for when Hylia sacrificed her immortality for her reincarnations in Zelda - but if that happened after the founding of Hyrule, then that could mean that Ganondorf never learned about the Tri-Force; he only met Zelda the Hylian, Distant Cousin of Sonia, a handful of times before the end of the Imprisoning War, and Zelda herself seems to have no awareness of the Tri-Force or her, Link and Ganondorf's connection to it. What better way to protect the Tri-Force than to seal it away in an immortal dragon flying above the cloud barrier for thousands of years? What if Hylia's choice to become mortal was a result of everything that happened during the Imprisoning War, wanting to further try to help protect Hyrule after the former 'gods' - the Zonai - died out along with their Secret Stones? (Major sidenote but I'm still foaming at the mouth for more information about the Zonai. How and why were Mineru and Rauru the last of their people? Wtf happened to them and is it related to the dragons, both living and dead? Nintendo, I'm t-posing outside your offices, please give me answers) Also in TOTK's timeline, Rauru and Sonia are the first of the Hyrule Royal Family. Hylia may've given their successors access to the Tri-Force as a way to try and counteract the loss of the Secret Stones and the ever-present evil that was Ganondorf cooking under the castle. This could further explain how and why Zelda, Link and Ganondorf would continue to reincarnate, and why this Ganondorf remained so focused on the Secret Stones instead of the Tri-Force; he never knew it existed in the first place. A major hole in this is that the Tri-Force motif seen on the Archaic Tunic and other Zonai clothing seen in the Memories, bc that implies that the Zonai were aware of the Tri-Force to some extent. My other kinda vague-not-fleshed-out theory is the Zonai were somehow direct descendants of the gods; demi-gods and powerful by their own right. Then after the Fall of the Zonai/the Imprisoning War, Hylia decided to take matters on more directly and with that decision, brought the knowledge of the Tri-Force to the rest of Hyrule too. If the Zonai were originally children of gods and knew about the Tri-Force that way, then it could also explain the motif on Zonai clothing. A popular theory I've seen thrown around and personally accepted as plausible is TOTK seems to be trying to converge all the other timelines and establishing this one as The Timeline going forward, so I've spent a lot of time thinking how the game designers and writers could've tried to take all the lore from the previous games with big things like the Tri-Force and make it work without completely breaking everything from the previous games lol. Bc we see the Tri-Force was a strong presence post-Memories; the motifs are all over Hyrule Castle and other Hylian ruins and designs. If Zelda has it but isn't aware of it, then that also opens up the possibility for the next game or future games to refocus around the Tri-Force, maybe thru Link and Zelda rediscovering what it is and how it works (which would then continue to include the newer fans who were brought in by BOTW and TOTK, who would also be learning about it for the first time). Another thought I've been bouncing around in my brain is it could be that the redheaded Zonai person Link turns into after completing all the Shrines was the first incarnation of Link, and whatever events took place while they were alive was also when Hylia gifted them the Tri-Force and started the cycle of reincarnation within Zelda; which could also mean that that BBEG was Demise, who originally cursed himself and Link to also continue the reincarnation cycle with them. (another personal theory of mine unrelated to the rest of this is that the next game or possibly dlc/extended edition is gonna be focused on that era and that redheaded Zonai as the protagonist but this is already a very long comment so I'll save that for another day) Tldr, i mostly agree with your theory - i think the Tri-Force has been hidden or sealed away somewhere, possibly for its own protection. Nothing in my theories answers how or why Zelda would have all three pieces of it and have no knowledge of it, especially since in BOTW her and her father both indicate they're aware of her divine bloodline and the power that comes with it. I agree it's very possible there was a point in time in the past when it was decided that all knowledge of the Tri-Force needed to be forgotten or repressed for it's own protection, and that could be why Zelda has no knowledge of it despite possessing it herself. Or - a simpler answer could be that Zelda's maternal ancestors were sworn to secrecy about the Tri-Force and only permitted to talk about it when their successor came of age, and since we know Zelda's mom died before she had a chance to teach Zelda anything about her powers, the information simply could have died with her at the beginning of the Calamity. BOTW and TOTK both reestablished that the Royal Family kept many, many secrets, including from each other (i.e. Ganondorf sealed under the castle, and that being the entire purpose of the castle) and folks like the Sheikah (Arbitor's Grounds), so it's plausible that the Tri-Force was one of those secrets that was simply buried and lost to time. Awesome video, I love your content as always and can't wait for the next one. I eat Zelda lore theories like a dying man at an oasis and yours are always *chefs kiss*. I'm still a relatively new Zelda fan (Twilight Princess was my introduction years ago but BOTW got me back into the series), so I may be missing really obvious pieces of lore that make my theories just not fit, but to me that's part of the fun of speculating and theorizing, bc then I learn new things :D

[@MyStreamingBuddy]

MORE ZONAI!!!!🥳

[@LightBombGaming]

What if; the triforce got forgotten because Raru sealed Ganondorf away, while Ganondorf still holds his pice of the triforce. So the triforce was forgotten because it was never seen again in his full form. The Hero was still here, the princess with the sealing power... but the big bad with the triforce of power was beneath Hyrule castle... so no triforce for hyrule for thousands of years

[@Hallow6262]

But Ganon doesn't have the Triforce and never mentions it as well and no Triforce imagery is shown on him so this doesn't make any sense

[@jacksondavis3355]

I interpreted Zelda’s transformation back into herself as Link simply using a super powered up version of recall moving her entire body back before she consumed the stone.

[@DemonicAdj]

Probably. Sonia's use of Recall "unbroke" the tea cup. State reversal might be possible if done correctly.

[@skullkid7989]

I took it that’s why

[@HyruleGamer]

Oh shi- fr?

[@mrbiscuits001]

*Gannondorf troll face intensifies*

[@ThatAnArchyDude]

I believe, at some point, someone attempted to use the Triforce to destroy the Triforce. However, the Triforce of Power would be so integral in this it would be unable to detroy it's self. So, the plan became wishing the Triforce of Wisdom to always transfer into Zelda & the Triforce of Courage to always transfer into the Hero...transcending spacetime...while the Triforce of Power would simply be broken into pieces which would require unification to regain it's full power. Thus, multiple guardians (known as Sages) could defend their own piece in order to keep the full relic out of the wrong hands. So, THIS is the "Secret" of the "Secret Stones". The Secret Stones ARE the pieces of the Triforce of power, and THIS is why a Secret Stone grants a different POWER to whomever possesses it. Now, consider this: If Ganondorf became THIS powerful through only a PIECE of the Triforce of Power (a Secret Stone) then, we have yet to see his ACTUAL full potential as the final boss in this new iteration of the series. 😮

[@bdhuffman42]

If the story really is that it's gone from people's memory, then why would Nintendo write it this way? Removing an iconic part of your franchise for what? What would they have to gain from it? Removing potential story ideas isn't a positive thing, IMO.

[@lolli_popples]

Answer: the Triforce is in the same place as Kass and hearty durians.

[@michaelplantarich3375]

You had me at "The Forbidden Doritos" 😂

[@koopaking6148]

all 3 game boy games didn't really focus on the triforce and neither did Majora's mask... but neither of those games actually took place in Hyrule... but I don't think that spirit tracks or hour glass did either but I'm pretty sure they are in Hyrule...

[@DemonicAdj]

Yeah, Phantom Hourglass was outside Hyrule and also inside a weird dream-dimension, and Spirit Tracks was explicitly in the newly founded "New Hyrule".

[@jozabean]

Theory. Master kohga was our hint at totk, having fallen into what would later be a chasm after his defeat. His defeat in totk led to him flying up team rocket style. Maybe he seeks out the Sacred Realm, aiming for the heavens of sorts. Perhaps he becomes the ultimate villain and becomes the next incarnation of evil. Glory to master kohga.

[@matthew8153]

The depths are the old Hyrule from OoT and the Hyrule we see in BotW and TotK is the new land created by the Deku Tree in Wind Waker. The last place we saw the Triforce in WW was in in Ganon’s Tower. So the Triforce is buried somewhere in the depths and hasn’t yet been found.

[@DemonicAdj]

I like the inclusion of the Deku Tree for that theory, since they were supposedly trying to pull land up.

[@DarkZerav]

The fading into legend idea fits very well: in BOTW it was expected from Zelda to use an inherited divine sealing power, that turned out to be the Triforce, and her training and meditation was a mean for her to gain access to it, however her mother passed away before being able to convey some critical information that is not referenced in any text (even if the Kingdom is full of visual references to it). Now in TOTK, Zelda chooses to use the same divine power to repair and empower the Master Sword, that action indicates that she is getting a better understanding of that inherited power, even if she does not know that it comes from an ancient relic.

[@datalorev]

A spoiler alert about the end of the game would have been nice.

[@alien5589]

I feel like the Triforce in BOTW/TOTK is more in line with the "real world" sorcerers stone, more of a metaphor for what makes a good hero, rather than an actual physical object.

[@williammcclafferty1397]

Imagine: We park down for BOTW3, and it’s purah and Zelda trying to download the abilities from Raurus arm into a shiekah slate/purah pad. Shit goes wrong or whatever, and you get to use all the shiekah and ultra hand abilities (minus a couple useless ones like magnesis). Zelda loses her sealing power after Hyrule is overtaken by an evil force, and link has to find the 8 pieces of the triforce of wisdom. The best call back to the series roots ever.

[@DemonicAdj]

Maybe we can finally get a mechanical arm like in the BOTW concept art. I want my motorcycle back. Call it.. E-Pona.

[@masonschwalm2010]

4:52 Also, whenever it isn’t on screen all the characters should be asking “Hey, where’s Poochie?”… I mean “Hey, where’s the Triforce?”

[@DemonicAdj]

The Triforce must have died on the way back to its home planet.

[@masonschwalm2010]

@@DemonicAdj 😂

[@stephstarsshine]

I tend to agree that it has been deliberately locked away in the sacred realm. I think if anyone would remember, it’d be the Sheikah. Awesome video!

[@TheGLukester]

OK, this is honestly a SOLID video. I honestly love talking about the Triforce and the lore surrounding it as well as its connections to the games and their stories/characters. One of my biggest gripes with Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom--as incredible as they are--is the lack of the Triforce. As you said, the Triforce isn't even MENTIONED despite all the clear references and symbolism of it you see through out the Switch Zelda titles. Having the Triforce simply be forgotten throughout time is a very plausible theory that I could consider head canon for myself as to me that makes the most logical sense. What's even more interesting about it as well is the fact that Link, Ganondorf, and Zelda don't have the Triforce marks on their hands which has always been the symbol of being one of the chosen wielders of a piece of the Triforce. As you showed us, Zelda does have the Triforce mark appear when she's using her powers but I don't think that has anything to do with the Triforce itself, but more so Zelda's bloodline being traced back to Skyward Sword Zelda being a reincarnation of the Goddess Hylia. Anyways, rambling over. Amazing and solid video HG! Keep up the great work!

[@javiervasquez625]

The Royal Family of the past probably hid the Triforce within their bloodline to both erase it from history and so PREVENT the past games from ever repeating again while also giving their descendants a power so great it could assist them against any future evils that could threathen the world.

[@Lupinemancer87]

I'm new to Zelda, started playing BotW recently, my first ever Zelda game, and just began TotK, so I know barely anything about the universe. The Triforce, however, is one of the few things I'm familiar with, and I was a bit disappointed to see it not play any role in the games. I did, however, really like the side-quests with the three springs. Spring of Wisdom, Spring of Courage and Spring of Power, where you need to get a scale from the three dragons roaming around Hyrule to power the springs. That was fun.

[@Mathew-vlogs]

1:06 is the question I’ve been asking since BOTW. I love the games, but hate the direction this franchise is going in.

[@HyruleGamer]

What direction is that?

[@Mathew-vlogs]

@@HyruleGameraway from its roots to reach a new generation of gamers. Sort of like when final fantasy VII firs released. Original fans wasn’t happy with the transition. I’m not against it changing gameplay, but core story arcs like the triforce should remain a big part of the game.

[@TheLogicMouse]

Being one of those folks who only got into the series with BotW, I may be way off base, but my first thought as you were going over the history of it was that someone may have used it to hide itself, wishing for the world to forget that it was more than a story and a symbol.

[@tonyperez2703]

YES!!! FUCKING YES! I felt crazy searching for any content related to this and no one seemed to question the absence of the all-powerful relic the Triforce. So much was retconned for OoT I genuinely was shocked. Rauru doesn't mention it despite being the first King of Hyrule and a Zonai. Even Ganondorf doesn't mention it and he's literally wielded its power. The only thing that would make sense is if the Triforce is sealed away somewhere and been forgotten by humanity. (Or Nintendo dropped the ball and doesn't care about the lore like it used to for TP or SS.)

[@davinvasquez358]

I wonder if totk dlc/expansion can bring it back in some way. Maybe the secret zonai stones are in fact pieces of the triforce like how in WInd Waker it is broken into shards. Maybe the Zonai at one point new where the triforce were, they were called to be Gods who descended to Hyrule. Maybe they had to full thing at one point, but maybe again bad people got their hands on it and it shattered. Maybe the dlc we can go back in time when the Zonai were alive. Maybe instead of sky islands it is a land mass in the sky higher than we can see now. Maybe we can explore the ancient civilization high above where we can go now and maybe there are flashbacks to when the zonai were more prevalent. Of course this theory and ideas have it flaws canonly, but wishful thinking and fun is what makes videogames fun to talk about.

[@javiervasquez625]

I imagine the Zonai have a machine somewhere with the power to "extract" divine power from within a person's body which convinces Zelda to want to subject herself to said machine in order to understand what this "Sealing Power" is all about. As the machine acricates the Triforce is "drained" from Zelda's body leading to it becoming physical once more.

[@PaperBag2024]

I have a little theory/story as to why the TriForce is missing. The Zonai, the ones long before Raruu and Mineru, used it to reset the world of Zelda, keeping them around and re-establishing the Hyrule Kingdom as their own dominion. From there, they went extinct, the last ones being the First King and his sister, but still left their presence marked through the Labyrinths, Typhlo Ruins, and the Faron region “city”.

[@victoralexandervinkenes9193]

The labyrinths, although created by the Zonai themselves, could also have housed another group that, for the sake of simplicity, can be referred to as the Lomei tribe... Who the Lomei were, we don't entirely know... they could've been a Zonai warrior caste, a power tribe with close ties to the Zonai, or just a barbarian tribe that may or may not have possible, whether intentionally or accidentally, powered up the demons, possibly leading to the first appearance of Calamity Ganon. Also, I like to think that the Ancient Hero were themself using the Hero's Aspect, too. Whether or not it's the case, we don't entirely know that (yet).

[@omegafalconoriginal]

Child timeline triforce of courage. Adult timeline triforce of wisdom. Fallen timeline triforce of power. I think triforce was split between the timelines and what we thought was 3 parts of triforce in each timeline was just 3 pieces of one of the original triforces. Each timeline's triforces were merged into one of the original triforces and a hero in each timeline used their set of triforce pieces to form one of the original 3 and at that point. All three heros wished to restore hyrule, and to do so the triforces came back together and was exhausted of power by combining all 3 timelines to restore hyrule as it only had enough power to restore one hyrule and not 3. And the zoni stones are the little fragmented pieces left over when the original triforces that crumbled when it restored hyrule by combining all 3 timelines and exhausted it's power. The Zoni stones only hold enough power to aid one holder but not enough to be restored into a triforce. But hey that's a theory a 2:30am sleepy made theory thanks for reading.

[@kayasimone7455]

I think that the triforce was split into twelve a bit before mineru and raru's time, and were encased into the secret stones by goddess hylia. This is because the secret stones have the same power to amplify its users power as the triforce (shards) have had in previous games. Also I think maybe hylia did this to hide and protect each stone from evil and so that the full power of the triforce is split up and so each stone is not too powerful (or as powerful as the full triforce). Also this would make sense because there are 11 known secret stones in the game (raru's, mineru's, Zelda/Sonya's, each sage's, each dragon's, and link/ganon's) so maybe the missing stones are part of the next game or dlc where you have to retrieve all of them and make them into the full triforce like in other games such as windwaker.

[@alexwalker5716]

wait, wasn't Zelda's stone the same one Rauru had? and Ganondorf's the one he took from Sonia? did Link even have a secret stone? though that doesn't disprove this Idea, of course. even though that's only ten pieces, the three triangles could have broken into different numbers. or it could have been just one piece that broke (power would make sense) and the other two won't appear until the broken one is put back together?

[@kayasimone7455]

@@alexwalker5716 Sorry yeah I got confused about who had which stones, but we know that there are definitely 10, and I said 12 because that is the number that the triforce is usually split up into (four pieces in each triangle) so surely the remaining two are somewhere in the world and may be revealed in a dlc or new game? Idk this is just my theory :)

[@alexwalker5716]

@@kayasimone7455 makes sense. I haven't played every game, so I guess I didn't know the triforce breaking was so consistant. but if are two more secret stones somewhere, I'm not sure where they could be hidden. maybe Link could get one after all?

[@Ahouro]

No the Sacred stones don´t have anything to do with the Tri-force, the whole Tri-force is in Zelda in Botw and Totk.

[@teuerle]

Theory: The Triforce is actually staring us in the face. Breath of the Wild was giving us Wisdom - from Zelda and her ability to contain Calamity Gannon for a venture while Link recovered. Tears of the Kingdom gave us Courage - from Zelda again by doing what she had to do and swallowing the stone for thousands of years while the Master Sword recovered. The final game - in an unexpected trilogy - will have Zelda demonstrating Power as Zelda had control of the Triforce all along, and we go to a different realm to defeat Demise and end the curse forever.

[@VincenzoNova]

I like something you mentioned about the Triforce symbolically being present when Link, Raaru and Sonia bring Zelda back, and I think it might even be literal, actually. Link has Courage reincarnated into him every time, so there's one. Wisdom is passed down through the royal bloodline, and Sonia being Zelda's blood ancestor might have been hinting that she already had Wisdom within her. That's two. The triforce of Power is usually taken by force, and I think it's reasonable to assume that Raaru might have held that in one way or another. Perhaps in sealing Ganondorf's body away all that time, he was able to take it from him, or maybe he already had it, and that's how he was able to seal ganondorf away in the first place. (He maybe used it to become king of Hyrule, but just wasn't evil about it)A bit of a stretch, but that could be three. Finally, draconification is impossible to reverse... unless, if Link, Raaru and Sonia together used the triforce to make a wish: Return Zelda.

[@UltimateTobi]

Perhaps BotW and TotK Zelda having the Triforce and her being flung into the past made the Triforce disappear/go into her then, too (since I think there can't be several Triforces at the same time due to time travel), which kept the Triforce out of reach in the Light Dragon for countless millenia (tens, if not hundreds of thousands of years). That would mean though that TotK's past is still far after any/all timelines (which I believe is the case), because it appeared in those games. At least that's what I thought you were about to hint at when you kept repeating your "out of memory"-line while showing the Light Dragon.

[@sera-chan8194]

I always wonder why no tried to remove the sacred stone from Ganondorf after his sealing :D could have prevented a lot of trouble for Link and Zel

[@PLATESWEEPER]

Gloom

[@eroraf8637]

When sealing evil in a can, it is generally unwise to damage the can, even (especially?) if the evil itself is part of said can.

[@cameronjadewallace]

This is something I hadn't thought about... and I'm glad I put this on before my shower.... it was something that made me think and stay longer under the water. I feel better now

[@KelyxTheMage]

One of the things I'm thinking could be possible is that the Zonai at some point even before Rauru's time, came into possesion of the Triforce, saw the potential harm it could cause if the full relic was placed into the wrong hands and decided to break it apart and reforge it into the Secret Stones. The Zonai are referred to and believed to be a divine race from the heavens, just as the Triforce is a divine force from the heavens. The Secret Stones themselves also work in a similar manner to the singular pieces of the Triforce, in which they enhance the innate abilities of the wielder rather than granting them new and different abilities. Each Secret Stone contains incredible power, very much alike to the Triforce. By reforging the Triforce into the secret stones, it could make the triforce much more difficult for one singular person to collect and thus the only way to wield it would be either to collect ALL of the secret stones, or have all of the wielders of said secret stones gather together to wish upon the Triforce together. It could also explain why consuming a secret stone has such a tremendous effect and transformation on a person, mirroring Ganondorf's transformations into a giant powerful beast with just the Triforce of Power. Perhaps the Triforce was lost to history because there was no longer a Triforce to remember, only the Secret Stones.

[@fabriciodelesderrier2646]

You can see the triforce when Rauru makes that big laser beam in The great Plateau. And another time when Zelda holds the broken Master Sword. It's there, you just have to adjust the image exposition.

[@javiervasquez625]

Zelda carries it inside her body which includes the scene where Rauru attacks the Moldugas. Since Rauru is technically Zelda's ancestor it would explain why he too has the power to control the Triforce from his Era.

[@fabriciodelesderrier2646]

@@javiervasquez625 I believe the triforce is the mixture of the light force (Rauru) and the time force from (Sonia/Zelda)

[@javiervasquez625]

@@fabriciodelesderrier2646 It's the combined essences of the 3 Golden Goddesses who somehow ended up inside Zelda's body by the events of the Era of the Wild without a firm explanation as to how it was passed down through her bloodline over thousands of years. Supposedly Rauru and Sonia also passed down through their son/daughter who then passed it through their son/daughter and so on until Zelda's time.

[@Chris-gx1ei]

I think I rather see a pattern in the Games. Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom seem to introduce especially newer players to the World of the Legend of Zelda The First game introduced us to the Trio of Light and Darkness, Link, Zelda and Ganon, along with the most important races to the Story. TotK introduced us to the man behind Ganon and covered the topic of what sages are and what their Purpose was. If they'll make another sequel, then I assume it will probably cover the topic of the Eternal Conflict between the God Tribe and the Demon Tribe with the eternal conflict of who of these sides is in charge just like in the very beginning - and in the center of this conflict was the Allmighty Triforce, so I hope they'll talk about it in a future game

[@SoupRoutine]

I think that makes sense. Sometime between the previous set of games and the ones set in the BotW eta, the Triforce could have gotten sealed back into the sacred realm, and eventually mostly forgotten about. The one issue i have with that is the fact that so many of the buildings have it featured pretty prominently. That suggests that whoever designed the building (in universe, not the dev who made it) knew of its importance. Hopefully we get some kind of answer in the next game (or DLC, if they decide to do DLC)

[@fezthecat1]

The symbol of the Triforce can be seen early in the game at Lookout Landing. It's on the entrance to the shelter, but disappears after it's opened.

[@Didmikedothis2023]

Make the next game take place in the past again prior to botw and totk and have it focus around the triforce and where it went, sounds dope af to have the golden goddesses seal it away in a game

[@Chaos89P]

I remember reading somewhere, most likely Hyrule Historia, that Ganondorf in Four Swords Adventures was after some trident and may not have been aware of the Triforce.

[@MusicalCircus]

I’ve been wondering if someone at some time used the Triforce to unify the timelines, and maybe there was a reason that it was no longer as it was. Maybe it exists inside Zelda,Link, and Gabon I guess. Although I like what the person who has the top comment suggests; the triforce pieces are inside the dragons now. @kirobe13

[@JPBrooksLive]

Man, a new Monster Maze and a new Hyrule Gamer video on the same day?? Hell yeah!

[@williamwalkup988]

Being how a very young Zelda lost her mother at a young age perhaps part of Zeldas training would have been information and History of the Triforce. Without this knowledge available to Link and Zelda they faced what seemed to be a far greater enemy in the revival of the Demon King in Gandolf. Perhaps this may also be the reason Zelda unknowingly traveled thru time in order to obtain the power need for Link to overcome the greatest threat since the Original Demon King.

[@shard7549]

Oh Lord! Did Gandalf turn evil when I wasn’t looking?! FYI in case they edit it the original comment referred to Gannon as Gandalf

[@williamwalkup988]

@@shard7549 yet again. Honestly I'd like to see the Windwaker Version of Ganondorf again with, dare I say it, a redemption arc.

[@thedancingsousa]

Can we talk about the three triangles that appear when Rauru uses his "sacred power of light" to repel the molduga?