WoW's Most Unique Game Mode Is On The Rise... | Classic WoW

[@WillEmmo]

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[@Mishu-cd7xb]

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[@tapazaaa]

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[@PeteZa92]

I'm a Tailor in Hardcore Mode. So when I die, I'll at least have people carrying bags made by me around.

[@qwopiretyu]

Wow

[@xeroxboy01]

Pretty sad... I second that wow

[@moonkinx]

Damn son

[@first001]

WOW

[@stefanmannn]

Deep

[@mattydemisestreams]

The cool thing about WoW Classic Hardcore is that it's a timeless game experience. The journey IS the game. The end game is a dim, distant dream for 99% of the people attempting the Hardcore challenge. That focus on the levelling experience is exactly why it'll always be relevant.

[@wisdomandy9361]

I completely agree. End game is just too time consuming and often feels like wearing a straight jacket. You can play at any pace and enjoy the experience while often being on your toes because of the nature of HC.

[@thegreattaiyou]

I cannot understate how much I feel like Hardcore is the best at being "Classic" aside from the original 2004 launch. The permanent death aspect forces you to slow down, allowing for two things. First, the world gets the be the main character since you are able to take the time to explore it, and it also helps the world continue to feel big since you are always out in it, running on foot or taking 10 minute flight paths. Second, it allows community to flourish. You get to spend more time with people and therefore forge stronger social bonds in game. The thought of losing your tens or hundreds of hours of investment into your character makes you much more likely to play nice with others because one grumpy player can wipe your whole party. There's no rush to the endgame. There's stronger community. Theres always people doing lower level content. I don't know what else you could ask for in Classic WoW.

[@FoxTrotting1]

Exactly! HC BiS

[@nickv3085]

You’re absolutely right. I noticed this a while back…it’s exactly as you say, no mode does a better job of emulating that original vanilla experience. The community and feel of leveling is almost exactly the same as I remember it way back in 2004 as a teenager. It’s strange, and I wouldn’t have predicted it, but the permadeath just puts you back to taking it slow and smelling the roses, and fosters a fun leveling community that would otherwise not exist. And similarly to when the game first released and many of us were young, you may hear myths of crazy endgame activities, but will likely never see them! HC delivers a similar excitement around the “what if”, because things aren’t guaranteed.

[@dakineprotoss]

hardcore classic is the only version of wow I have played since launch, and I cant imagine playing a non-HC community every again. I was the same way in diablo, when they made d2 hardcore I only played hardcore henceforth in all diablo games. its just...more fun

[@paulwalther5237]

It’s a great community until you die.

[@Darui]

I know not everyone feels this way, but for me the limitation of one instance per day felt really really nice. Because people aren't chain dungeon farming and the risk of death, people are taking their time. You won't have tanks running around pulling the entire room, or DPS being overzealous and taking the tank out of his rhythm.

[@kalsizzle]

I kept feeling like playing hardcore again lately maybe its time

[@ZiggyJr]

Same, the gold i bought last uear was well worth it lol

[@Abololo33]

I feel like giving you some big d lately 😉😘

[@CopeMasterFlexx]

play a dwarf on Defias-Pillager. we have an all dwarf guild thats comfy. we even have 3 or 4 micro celebrities like Dreadstroke, everyone in Racc pac which I used to be in, and more!

[@noz2506]

It's always time! So many varieties of self imposed challenges to keep it fresh 😁

[@Dartanius100]

I jumped back on earlier this week after a 4-5 month break and it's still great. You definitely should!

[@joenuttah7886]

ive been playing hc again. level 60 is not my goal. just living the day is

[@gregsmith3373]

If I jump back in, this is how I want to play. I love the world and I love just running around doing stuff. The 3 characters I lost because I got impatient. Need to avoid that this time around

After playing WoW since 2004 I can say Hardcore is the most fun way to play the game. I believe one of the main reasons is the fact that there is no FOMO in this gamemode. In normal WoW, people get stressed when their friends are 10 levels ahead or are already playing endgame content = FOMO. In hardcore, your friends have as much chance of dying and having to start again, putting you ahead all of a sudden which basically nullifies the FOMO effect and causes people to be more chill when grouping or running dungeons. For me hardcore is the gamemode I will be playing from now on as a casual with only a few hours per week to play. Hope to see y'all in game!

[@Jarke]

Just started a warlock last week. It’s pretty fun just taking my time questing through the world and the majority of the community on Defias are helpful and kind.

[@iamyew2525]

I never stopped playing HC ^.^ Yewlock - Defias Pillager, come say hi. I didn't plan to live this long when I started, but I'm full 9/9 T3 now. 5/5 T2.5 on my paladin. An alt of every class coming up on 60 as well... Classic era is my favorite version of the game, but the level of care and focus that every person on the server has while doing anything elevates every experience. The worst time for server pop was right after sod phase 1 came out. It feels like it's been steadily increasing since then tho. I'm looking forward to a possible resurgence in October.

[@benjaminterracini6114]

I still can't break the level 20 wall x)

[@xXHoRiiZoN32]

Eh. Streamers can very easily destroy this HC server with their x1000000 gold buying surge. There has to be some rules guidlines implemented, NO GOLD BUYING, This exact thing happened after a few months when xQc and Soda got caught buying gold when the HC servers launched.. Destroyed the economy for a while. I quit after that. That’s been a while ago I’m sure it’s recovered some. Then your average joe gets their accounts banned for buying gold. But not the streamers, they get away clean. streamer privilege in its finest form. Makes me so sick The unofficial servers on bloodsail SSF mode was the best time for me.

[@jacobscholtissek2410]

i liked SoD but the Community is the worst in all of WOW

[@alekplays9096]

Havnt you griefed people in stormwind on Yewlock by dropping infernals on them?

[@happyfrietiez]

@@xXHoRiiZoN32 Soda account should have been permanantly banned for buying gold and no streamer would risk it again.

[@Aysentaro]

i have never had that much fun with WoW as when HC came out, that few months was so good

[@kriddius]

Spot on with the reaction to seeing max level characters in raid gear! Once upon a time I'd see an epic mount raider and gush with awe. In retail everyone gets a participation award. It caters to the very worst players so everyone feels like a winner. "When everyone is super, no one will be" On hardcore, you see a max level player and you know they earned it. When you see a 60 in raid gear they've risked it all where a single mistake, from any one in the raid, could have lost it all and they came out on top. There's a level of respect there that's been absent in WoW for a very long time The community gets very small the higher you get in levelling too. bad players tend to filter themselves out and the bad apples are remembered and shunned by the rapidly diminishing player pool. Your actions and your behaviour carry weight. This hasn't been the case since the introduction of LFG/LFR I strongly believe hardcore is the best version of WoW for player community, comraderie and content

[@FoxTrotting1]

Agreed!

[@tomgo8439]

I play a lot of WOW HC and I got tot mention you do not need HC Death Addon anymore, you can set it in the options that Deaths are shown in Chat or Screen, you set it that only Guild Deaths are shown not only in Chat. And Stichtes is alive, I see it, that World Buffs are set on regualr Basis, 19:40 ZG ist nearly every Day and a lot of Ony Buffs also.

[@Laber77]

Yeah, I think he got sponsored.. he was explaining that add-on , in detail .. bit ackward presentation

[@RubixNinja]

Skull Rock- Horde Defies Pillager- Alliance

[@dakineprotoss]

ive been playing on defias pillager since launch. its back to 4 layers now, for a time was 1-2 layers

[@discofabio5009]

Not entirely.. most oceanic players will play on Skull Rock since better latency

[@LoganBrown-g5h]

Thanks for this, have been looking for a horde community

[@Runs_on_Caffeine]

Is this true @RubixNinja ?

[@RubixNinja]

@@Runs_on_Caffeine Yes... there is a larger horde population on skull rock

[@Novocane23]

Hardcore was such an appeal because everything you do feel like it matters. Success is actually meaningful, and mistakes actually have heart pounding consequences. Traveling back to a city to make sure you're trained up and look for vendor upgrades is a big deal. Your gold actually means something in Classic and that only compounds the hardcore feeling. Is it disheartening when you die? Absolutely, but the journey is actually the entire part of the game - and after a short break, most people are willing to throw themselves back into it - because it's not the destination that matters.

[@Mirekluk]

Life before death Strength before weakness Journey before destination -First ideal of knights radiant.

[@eyevou]

Remember to "/join HardcaoreDeaths" for the Blizzard supported death notifications and turn on Death Alerts in the game settings. Only level 10+ deaths are shown. Deathlog is nice but not entirely needed. A good way to judge how many players are on a realm at any given time is by the Layer count. Each layer bumps a ~1000 concurrent.

[@hunterbaker-horne2765]

Still have a lvl 49 hunter sitting in the hinterlands... might be time to try finish the grind.

[@sdwone]

Be Careful! 😊

[@feywinterfox9630]

It's so strange for me because Hardcore might the be most fun I have ever had playing world of warcraft and the first time ever I felt like there was a real community going on and it was really nice to see the low level areas not empty. I say it is strange for me because when it comes to WoW I can get all my friends in a "the band is getting back together!" and return to WoW for Retail, Classic, SoD, and they play for a good month before all dropping off one by one and I am playing alone. Hardcore was the one everyone and their mom refused to try so I went in alone for one and met so many great people and just had a blast! The only reason I left was because of SoD and after the fist level cap increase, they all quit and sadly I forgot all about Hardcore. Might just have to return and this time try leveling something other than a Rogue LOL!

[@IrondilX]

I literally started hc about 2 hours ago

[@eyevou]

Welcome home.

[@Aysentaro]

same

[@Zanaro97]

Dead yet?

[@phild8238]

Good luck

[@Tom-em8nn]

I've started retail about 7 months ago. And while i enjoyed it. And play war within for one day per week (just to get PVP cap and complete pvp quests). I do it asap to return to HC. Which i started about a month ago. As self found. Had my first char (Pala) die at 28. Now rocking my feral druid at 42 and going strong. The level of community feeling and the relaxed atmosphere while leveling is causing me to absolutely love this game and be hooked to it.

[@SenipLuff]

The self found mode added so much for me, means I can enjoy it completely independently of how popular (or not) the HC servers are without feeling like I'm massively missing out on the AH etc, outside of instances. Has kept me playing it since they introduced it.

[@nickh4354]

That's wild lol... I had no idea it was getting popular outside of my own world. I've been getting the itch to play HC again, been watching hardcore death compilation reactions, and started a warrior and a mage just last week and playing every day. I guess we all collectively caught the HC fresh bug!

[@FoxTrotting1]

Still playing HC! My main game version, nothing else does it for me. The adrenaline rush during close calls never gets old.

[@ivanthespacebiker5390]

I hope this is true. The way they released SOD so close to HC was so dumb. I got to 60 and all the servers were dead, no one to play with.

[@Ryan_hey]

Yeah, agreed. SOD eclipsed HC way too quickly.

[@brandonwilson4740]

It wasn't dumb. HC was already thinning out.

[@ombogalombo]

lol that's because most people would die.

[@sublime1558]

A lot of people who get to 60 park their characters in SW/Org as a trophy and dont raid

[@ivanthespacebiker5390]

@@brandonwilson4740 it was because everyone knew in 2 weeks everyone will leave for SOD, it still died purely because of SOD. I also would not be this sour if it wasnt a total fai for me (SOD I mean)

[@weirdodude1173]

WE GO AGANE

[@Reippa]

We go agane this friday stichess eu

[@thehalfrican1386]

I may try hardcore again, but when my last character died i just playing him on normal classic and he has been thriving like crazy.

[@AlexGavei]

Lvl 47 Paladin atm, Hardcore EU is being fun!

[@从劣势里找到优势]

Can I ask you question. At lvl 46 you get Bless of sacrifice. What happen when you have retribution aura on( and Thorn from a druid if you can get) Let say you are playing as ret pally or holy pally. You place Bless of sacrifice on the tank during a pull. Since you got the damage redirect to you. When the ret aura and Thorn from you reflect back the damage to the mobs?

[@19turtledog]

@@从劣势里找到优势no, I believe it has to be direct melee damage

[@Kaffedreng38]

have a HC Horde level 60 hunter - now trying a Paladin and solo self found - love the Hardcore game style and come from Diablo 2 and 3 Hardcore :D

[@DannyAZ5]

I've had my share of loss in HC, but nothing more memorable than watching the deathlog pop 30/40 on a Nax wipe. It's literally mind blowing!!!

[@hizzousekakashi8836]

I loved hardcore, but after the 4th character dying due to comcast deciding I need a 30 second break from my connection or blizzard servers deciding that underwater is the best time to DC you(they say that's fixed now tho) I feel like online hardcore games are just temping fate.

[@trainingtall]

My lvl 60 pally on HC is one of my proudest adult accomplishments 😂 I will say I don’t miss it THAT MUCH though!

[@N_A__]

Is it even HC if you leveled a pally?

[@markayzenshtadt7200]

I’ve got a hardcore druid to lvl 36, at which point it was so easy that there was no way for me to die unless I decided to. Then I died to a disconnect. I’m never touching hardcore again.

[@Skjorrious]

I had a friend who took a week off from work to play WWI on launch, but we ended up playing around 1 hour of retail and then HC for the rest of the week.

[@tristanblenk3041]

I am raiding on nekrosh EU and population is picking Up. And the HC Community is build differently. In 22 years of MMORPGs i never even dreamed of a community as good as ours, which is the leading raid guild on alliance. Ppls die: you Help them Go again because you need them to be able to Play the endgame yourself

[@Jkaninteangemittnamn]

yup to much horde on that server - prices in ah are outragous - the other server are more friendly

[@Paud4n]

Maybe time to pick up my level 49 hunter on hardcore again (haven't played HC since SoD launched). Thanks for the inspiration! @WillE

[@HugeAckMan420]

Weirdly I resubbed last week to rerun HC again

[@CrayonEater9845]

As did my group of 3 😮

[@nickreffner4574]

I'm about to resub as well. The calling can be heard. The yearning can be felt. Hardcore shall rise again.

[@sdwone]

HC is definitely... Addictive!!! Especially for challenge freaks! 😊

[@matthewjachowski5899]

I like all versions of WoW. I have plenty of guildies on Retail who feel the same way. This Awakened Season has been the perfect time for us to chill.. especially after the hell of Mythic Tindral and Fyrakk in Season 3. While many people just took the past few months off, others including me went back to Classic. SoD felt out of reach. Most of us are old and had our fill of Cata when it was current. So, almost all of us went to Hardcore. You hit the nail on the head that it's by far the best mode to just pick up and play. I've gotten to 60 as a Druid and Priest, and am in the mid 40s on a Paladin :) We're all shifting heavy focus back to TWW, but it's comforting knowing that Hardcore is there whenever we want and since leveling is the goal, the FOMO is non-existent.

[@Bananalysdhr]

I took a break from sod after I got the metamorphoais rune on my warlock, and didn't start again until phase 4, I never see anyone to play the game with.

[@SheenBuscemi]

I love hardcore. Its the best cus when im bored in sod i just blast on my lock. I wont get 60 quickly by any means but its just such a great option. It also has such a great friendly community. Wow is the best when there is teamwork in any aspect

[@Marcelo-0000]

I don't have a subscription anymore, so I can't post suggestions on wow forums, but if anyone is interested in raising this topic: I'd like to suggest implementing a dark-souls like feature in hardcore servers. If you die, the "Try Again" option will reset your character to brand new. However, if you manage to get that character back to the same level you were when you died, all your items will get send back to you. This would improve retention and incentivize people to try again, since not everything they did was lost, but it's just locked there waiting for them to reach their "personal best" again. We could even make a time limit, like: if you take more than 30 days to level back, the items are gone. Also, this would be a way to mitigate frustration for unfair deaths, as you know that all you have to do is get there again to retrieve your stuff. "What if I die while trying to reach my personal best?" -> Your personal best items are still there waiting for you. You just lose the items you had in the most recent attempt. "What if I want to choose which version of the items I want to keep?" -> I would suggest not going this direction. Implement and deliver something direct and simple, then collect feedback and see if it needs improvement. Until last year I was very active in WoW, and even if Hardcore interests me, the current implementation doesn't make me believe the risks are worth the reward. My character name is Malves on the Australian servers, yes I have several Malves spread across Oceania. (except from Frostmourne since someone sniped the name from me) 😂

[@dakineprotoss]

no, each character is a unique roll, and a unique story. i have died at 45, 44, 39, 27, 23, 16 - I also have made it to 60 on 4 classes. You get over dying, you realize that death is part of the game. The risk and the punishment makes every moment to moment gameplay 100x more interesting. When you die, you lose everything, thats the way it should be. You can continue playing that toon on era server if you want.

[@sdwone]

Dude! That kinda defeats the CHALLENGE! Remove that and lots of HC addicts (like me!) will stop playing!!

[@General12th]

Hi Will! I want to play more Hardcore, but the idea of losing my run to a server disconnection or an errant flight path makes me not want to go agane.

[@TwirlingFoxspirit]

Go agane

[@dakineprotoss]

hardcore teaches a person about themselves. Because all of us die, but the true legends go agane.

[@sdwone]

Sure... There are risks... But isn't Life Itself risky too!? 🤔

[@EnduroMarcel]

HC just brings back what makes this game so great. No rush. No boosting. Just enjoying the journey

[@sdwone]

Just like the Good Ole Days! Except this time, you can't die 😊 Which forces you to play this game seriously... And professionally! I remember using Death as a tactic back in Vanilla... Usually to save time and cut corners! Well... Now I am forced to play properly! 😁

[@Hedger7475]

Self found has a bug at the moment since p4 of sod released. After people reach 60 on a self sound you get a achievement buff for doing in self found, however after logging out and logging back in the buff disapears. This is only for people who have reached 60 after the release of sod p4

[@BlackMant1s]

good to know ill sit at 59 and 99% till i hear of a fix lol

[@michaelwest3379]

If anyone decides to try this mode out, know that the hardcore servers are merged with the cata client, so whenever there's an update on that client you may want to log for a bit as the servers tend to be unstable. Entire raids have wiped for server lag - and Blizz won't do anything about it. Just something to be aware of.

[@giovannibarrientes2260]

Guy got Crit by Mortar reloading while Black smithing for almost 7k health like dah HEEEEEK LuL

[@nickv3085]

I just started back up as a SF fire mage, hit 22 and loving it. Great to fill time between cata raids. I’ll prob take a break when retail drops and then come back during lulls. Hardcore is cozy.

[@zottirgen]

I've returned to WoW with Hardcore after 15 years last year and played for 3 months. It was like a dream, the best Wow experience I've ever had, including some very high end top 30 Europe raiding guilds back then. For a few weeks now, the idea of going back started to haunt me and I think I'll do that soon. Cuz it's the journey that matters

[@ethanlawrence9482]

I started again about a week ago while waiting for firelands, had that classic levelling itch. Was surprised at how many were playing and have made many new friends already. Having a great time ngl

[@Waruto]

"...hardcore captures the essence of vanilla World of Warcraft, even better than the regular servers..." You are spot on WillE. All the changes that were made to Hardcore like unlimited buff/debuff slots, 1 dungeon lockout before 60, and anti-dungeon boosting is what made Vanilla better. Hardcore is living proof that #yeschanges to Vanilla can work without ruining the spirit of Vanilla. I would love to see Blizzard bring in the Hardcore changes (aside from perm death) to Classic Era.

[@kwamedwards]

Been practicing the past month or so. If people are coming back in October it will be fun to be good enough to play some fun content with everyone before inevitably dying to my own stupidity.

[@19turtledog]

@@kwamedwards just curious why people are expecting a player resurgence in October? I’m genuinely just looking for answers

[@poklx1515]

Sodapoppin's OnlyFangs guild. It is a streamer only guild which has the objective of clearing hl hc content. So if HC becomes popular on twitch again, there will a wave of people playing again

[@toraso842]

@@poklx1515what server? Should I start leveling now or wait for October? Or is it like a realm restart on HC?

[@travispayne9589]

You'll get to 60 eventually, get engi and mining. Take your time! I can promise you that 1st hc 60 will feel like the greatest achievement you've ever had in wow

[@kwamedwards]

@@toraso842 Rumors that there may be a new fresh server but nobody knows anything for sure yet. People are going to be starting over, leveling, and dying in October so no reason to pre-level on any server. I’m just doing it for fun and practice.

[@fuzzyduck1506]

I love HC. Have got two characters to 60, and have had 4 tragically die before their time. It really is the best mode for those for whom the journey is the most important thing, not the destination. On side note, the deathlog addon isn't used so much now, as Blizzard have introduced their own death announcement option

[@johnny_eason_iii]

I’ve been playing all versions of WoW lately, heck yes & more to come fo sho!!👍🏼👍🏼😎👏👏💯💥💥💫💫✨✨

[@juxxthefluxx]

I've really been craving my WoW experience from nearly 20 years ago lately. This might have just convinced me to get back into it.

[@WardenCommander.]

Daaum, what have I missed? I was playing HC before vacation, and the pop was quite alright. I come back to play again after vacation and the pop has exploded!

[@jack.smith2958]

I've played hardcore for almost a year now. It is *by far* the best game mode ever. Tonight we did Onyxia and BWL. I died a while back and did a 14-day stream leveling back to 60. It was a blast.

[@paulwalther5237]

One thing I liked about the add on was you could go “immortal” at 60 giving you something to shoot for. I know some people including a lot of streamers make getting to 60 look easy but not for me. I’ve never even done level 60 dungeons before. I’d do some noob mistake and die immediately I’m sure if I tried anything level appropriate at 60 😂.

[@Chickentendersaregood91]

Always loved HC leveling so much, made me feel the most alive and really brought the og classic feel back again. But once you hit 60 personally I feel like it loses its luster, maybe that’s just me, just love the leveling

[@luisalonso6878]

I'm creating a character right now.

[@Nicolairoed]

I have two 60s on Nek Rosh EU, had some fatigue recently but this made me wanna play again

[@travispayne9589]

I've always said , HC endgame literally starts at lvl . Everything you do matters. It does the best at capturing the vanilla experience with community and a true mmo experience! I've played since 2020 with the creator Kargoz and the grass roots community. It's simply astounding to see what we've achieved in 4 yrs!

[@scythianking7315]

Only reason I havent played HC yet is because I love pvp too much. I wish there was a way to impliment pvp into HC

[@Facecrushman]

Nek'rosh actually has a really big community on Horde side, Stitches is an Alliance server now.

[@skylas7131]

Yo what’s up, Chad Grugston here. I’ve been playing HC since the addon was just gaining traction. It’s still a great way to play if you can make it to the end!

[@paulwalther5237]

I didn’t know it was making a comeback. I’m going to give it another shot. I multi task though. I watch KZbin while I play for example. I like multi boxing 2 toons which seems like it would make you stronger but in hardcore it makes it easy to make a little mistake or not notice your 2nd toon is getting beaten down 😂.

[@MusaM8]

I really hope we get TBC hardcore at some point.

[@sdwone]

Yeah... I'm sure Blizz are mulling over this but... Going Agane post 60? Man... That's ROUGH!!! Maybe going agane @ 60 might work, if you die past this level... But yeah... That's not really *hardcore* is it?

[@someguyfromtheinternet5158]

ive dipped into tbc, wrath and cata. didn't stick around on any for long. i havnt had the time of life schedule to dedicate to raiding and they all are about endgame. i leveled 5 characters to 60 in classic so i even didnt enjoy official hardcore for a while compared to the addon back (leveling one "safe" character and funneling gold wasnt that exciting for me) recently came, doing self found only, and ive loved it, died to so many stupid things i would have survived if i have a few greens, even a green weapon. professions feel like they matter (only alchemy, engineering, fishing and cooking really but they all have some benefits (enchanting and tailoring early on for casters, skinning is a great money maker for your mount etc) if anyone doesn't have much time to play but wants a social game then i definitely recommend giving it a go, i only get an hour or so to play a day, the occasional longer day but even then not by much, and it feels more active than any other version of the game simply because you need to interact to do any group content, and after a certain point there aren't many people trolling as even getting to very early midgame is a long time investment, if you only do content as self found with other self found players then its even lower. ive had a few self found players not know how to approach some things but none of their (our my) mistakes have seemed malicious. games are meant to be fun and hardcore is the most fun ive had playing games for a while.

[@Bladepro666]

I hope to start it in October when I get back home, really looking forward to it!!! Good luck everyone 😊

[@DeepBlackEmerald]

Deathlog is fantastic! I played in the first round of Hardcore official hype (I have a 60! Never raided because the journey was my goal) and in the world chat, people would actively be discussing Deathlog deaths. The waves of F's when someone higher level died.... just can't match it.

[@manuelius6306]

I love hc but after playing SoD, especially when it comes to shaman, i can never go back to pure classic. In my opinion, they made classes so much better. I would love official SoD /classic+ hc though.

[@charlieward7227]

I loved hardcore! Makes it feel more 'classic' like. Got to go slow, team up and ur progress is never going away unless you die! I have a lvl 39 rogue still sat there and can go back whenever i like

[@donwilber1628]

Enjoyed my time playing a hunter to 60 HC. I've had 3 alts die on HC, all low level and a couple of which were due to other players dragging mobs by me in caves. Caves are generally a bad place to be in HC, especially when you can get unusual respawns

[@johanlahti84]

I have 3 druids on hardcore two of em being 60 (one is dead though..died at 59 haha, fell off the zeppelin)

[@Horstolord04]

RIP dat druid adhd

[@travispayne9589]

HC has always been cyclical. About once year (especially around the holiday season) hard-core just hits sooo hard!

[@Blackread]

You don't need deathlog anymore. Blizzard has now implemented a system in the game that can show every character death level 10 or above, if you so choose.

[@vasilisp9305]

Which is inferior to the Deathlog addon... We should promote the Addon unless Blizz puts some resources to properly integrated it

[@Blackread]

@@vasilisp9305 I guess it depends on what you value. Do you want to see all deaths? The Blizzard system. Do you want to see only a small fraction of the deaths but with more details? Deathlog. Besides, there's nothing to prevent you from using both. I just want to spread awareness of the Blizzard system, because every time someone dies there's multiple people asking how to see deaths.

[@vasilisp9305]

@@Blackread Unfortunately, using both will cause Deathlog to bug and skip a lot of information.. It is fine to raise awareness about it, just saying that this is a poor effort of Blizz to integrate this ingame. Even the raid warning you get ia just a simple white text

[@Blackread]

@@vasilisp9305 It doesn't cause deathlog to bug. Deathlog can show the additional information only if the person dying is also using deathlog. All the other deaths you see with "missing information" are deaths you wouldn't see at all if you didn't use the Blizzard system.

[@vasilisp9305]

@@Blackread I did not know that, thanks for the info! Gonna give it a try again..

[@joshualynam3094]

Leveling my paladin so carefully just felt like...something... and then I waited 3 days for a Scholomance group that would actually invite me for the mage to off himself right before gandling. :( Gave up on hardcore after that. Occasionally log in and resist the urge to drown in Ironforge lava.

[@dra55555]

I started up again just this month, still feels great to play!

[@oofshinobi5623]

What about returning players? I started SoD a few months ago after years of no access to wow. I've scrapped a level 25+ Paladin and switched to Warrior would it be worth doing HC when there's players or should I do a full run?

[@OneWorldHistory]

Only place I play. Came back to WoW after 15 years because of hardcore. The starter areas will always be active.

[@tomgo8439]

Hardcore, you love or hate it. If you can live with, that your Progression can be wasted and that can be a DC, I had a DC LVL 46... that is kinda hard. But, when you love it, it is just the Adrenalis when things get close and you still survive, that is something you never get on Era or SOD. Even when you overgeared you still got to pay Attention.

[@deanbruckner1444]

DEFIAS PILLAGER BABY

[@ErikHalaska]

just started playing wow retail..im level 61 and play solo..is this a better way to play for a more social experience?

[@j.d.5626]

oh yeah, wait for the fresh server in a week

[@Stormsong93]

I felt the itch to play hardcore again... but for Diablo 2s ladder on friday!

[@ryangardner7709]

I always DC 😬😬😬 I would play again if dc’s would log you out , instead of killing you. It’s bs

[@usemorebrainplz-is7gy]

HC is def the best mode, but it will never pop off due to the hard leveling path after x amount of characters but for sure suits many players :)

[@ThatDerpyGuySN]

It was the most fun I had in wow in ages, might have to come to go again

[@ShintarsVideos]

I don't think the faction balance on hardcore has anything to do with safety because it's the same on regular PvE servers. Us happy PvE carebears just tend to lean towards wanting to be "the good guys" I guess.

[@madchessLeviathan]

not sure how well it is going, been dropping off that lately so guild kicked me, the last time I was on I got random wispers for participating in dungeons or things I did not want so I'm not so sure there was plenty of people playing if you have to wisper a level 22 rogue that is unguilded to get a group going.

[@GusChiggins69]

I haven’t played wow since warlords. Came back for a bit in 2019 for classic. Leveled to 45 and just sort of stopped. But for some reason I’m gone down the wow KZbin rabbit hole…. Soooooo. I think it’s time to come back. To classic and play this stupid/ amazing looking mode. Wish me luck.

[@YoutubeDictatorship2024]

Bro made all female characters to intentionally showcase their assets to boost engagement.

[@ClearMindMediax]

I havent played on HC since SoD release but now im too worried I got comfortable dying. Might start a fresh instead of jumping right onto my 53

[@uDamster]

I miss an inbetween version like - you have 3 or maybe even 9 lives? Its so soulcrushing to die of a DC or the elevatorboss

[@Gramuza7]

This mode is awesome., and i was running with people low lvl, it was just so much fun running with everyone.

[@iamlegion3093]

Love to see HC & Classic Era returning

[@samsbookbook3425]

HC is after Vanilla the rly first mode that made me feel as close as possible to vanilla. But its not on the rise ;)

[@Otaconsps]

something I've been thinking about playing until TBC FRESH comes out :)

[@JulianGood]

Im so nervous to boot up hardcore, i left my main at i think level 48 and if i log in and die at the start ill be so devastated 😂

[@Percules1337]

Playing everyday, just take it chill, no stress, get a few alts ect, so much fun!!!

[@Jkaninteangemittnamn]

blizz could have several hardcore servers with differnt rules - just fire up the deleted servers blizzard , one coul dbe you can die only once a day and have only 1 character on this server - so avoiding death would mean someting

[@alexd2249]

I thought I'd hate hardcore...but it's been the best time. I love having no expectations of raiding

[@hebediahgoldbach3031]

As long there is petris,there is no HC

[@snail7621]

other hardcore games have similar items or even dumber alt f4 exploits, shame on the player base for finding out how to use an item from the original game to preserve their characters though...

[@popamihnea6695]

I might give my Rogue a try again. I reached level 34 last time before I quit (not died), but im on EU