The New PP Rework is Actually Good

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Willy

Willy

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@Cattyxdd
@Cattyxdd 7 ай бұрын
Combo scaling removal will make my pp go up, because most of my plays are not FCs unfortunately, but I hope I will be able to fix my skill issue and FC them nevertheless
@xRiver007
@xRiver007 7 ай бұрын
hahah
@kemonoshift
@kemonoshift 7 ай бұрын
my pp go up
@duyroblox
@duyroblox 7 ай бұрын
first sentence is crazy
@pingwinner_
@pingwinner_ 7 ай бұрын
ho lee fuk
@nublao8382
@nublao8382 7 ай бұрын
ayo what
@kasperinos007
@kasperinos007 7 ай бұрын
this change might make me return to the game. i would always choke because my mindset was always about the combo, but now i can just focus on doing my best in every part of the map instead of mentally preparing for diff spikes etc
@mapperize
@mapperize 7 ай бұрын
wtf kasper played osu
@okdev5420
@okdev5420 7 ай бұрын
definitely, the worst part about the game is actually just shit missing and then knowing its a pretty much worthless score unless it's a cool map
@UmCaraNormalnumPlanetanormal
@UmCaraNormalnumPlanetanormal 7 ай бұрын
@@okdev5420 Fr, especially if the miss was in the middle of the map, that shit actually just completely deflates you mid play
@Seanlolplaysblitz
@Seanlolplaysblitz 6 ай бұрын
THIS IS MY MKWII GOAT gm kasper
@Konomi_io
@Konomi_io 6 ай бұрын
exactly, combo scaling was the main reason i primarily play mania (with a bit of taiko too). might play std a bit more once v1ing is gone
@joellasoe3218
@joellasoe3218 7 ай бұрын
This is great now you won't have to listen to the first 30 seconds of the map over and over again.
@Josephchen290
@Josephchen290 7 ай бұрын
I hear the first 5 seconds of a map while sleeping, for some reason my choke point is the first 5 seconds
@gobbergobberer4776
@gobbergobberer4776 7 ай бұрын
1. This definitely will NOT incentivize people to FC maps 2. This change is very very good. PP was originally designed to indicate how good someone is, and mrekks Walk This Way 12.4* play being worth 525pp indicates that he is a 4 digit player.
@UmCaraNormalnumPlanetanormal
@UmCaraNormalnumPlanetanormal 7 ай бұрын
I love this change because FCs are always going to be the premier achievement you can get in an osu map but now you dont need to always fc if you want to get good pp, this is the best of both worlds imo
@NewbieFirst
@NewbieFirst 6 ай бұрын
while this won't incentivize people to fc maps, it will still promote a way healthier mindset, especially if combined with submitting by pp instead of score (although I'm pretty sure lazer stores multiple scores under the same mod combinations already), instead of retry spamming every miss, people will instead try to lower their misscount and increase acc
@prakhararohan
@prakhararohan 6 ай бұрын
it WOULD incentivise people to FC because that still gives the most amount of pp possible, barring if you get like trash acc on fcs
@NewbieFirst
@NewbieFirst 6 ай бұрын
@@prakhararohanonly the shit diffspikey farm maps of the current age, I'd argue that the meta will shift to consistent higher difficulty maps with low misscount, instead of diffspikey lower difficulty maps that you can relatively comfortably fc (because consistent difficulty lowers the miss penalty quite a bit, which willy didn't adress for some reason), like all the 7* TUYU jump map scores with sub-10 misses I have go from barely 100 pp to mid-to-high 300s, which is enough to get in my top-100, so instead of farming mid 6* HD(HR), I can switch to low 7*, which is actually better for my improvement, since they are within my improvement range, while my current top-100 is full of first tries/sightreads.
@catagamas
@catagamas 6 ай бұрын
even if the pp system didn't existed you would always be incentivized to FC a map
@czystywegiel504
@czystywegiel504 7 ай бұрын
this rework is so good overall. no more retrying mindset and casual players such as me would be able to ignore 1 miss/sliderbreak somewhere in the middle of the map which seems healthy to the game. rewarding for good plays instead of high combo plays seems so refreshing, definitely the greatest rework so far
@ballfish9661
@ballfish9661 7 ай бұрын
Mrekk will become invincible after this rework and no one can come close to the no1 in decade I swear 💀💀💀
@fieryr
@fieryr 7 ай бұрын
accolibed's "new era" will only last as long as combo scaling lasts
@xd3athclawx554
@xd3athclawx554 7 ай бұрын
yeah this buffs "pass" plays way more which is something mrekk is very good at doing lol
@PhoeniX199777
@PhoeniX199777 7 ай бұрын
chud son will raise his cheats by 20% and itll be over for mark
@iOmegaToxic
@iOmegaToxic 7 ай бұрын
​@fieryr actually it would still be the most PP play, unless mrekk pulls something very crazy off, his play would stay the most PP for a while
@fieryr
@fieryr 7 ай бұрын
@@iOmegaToxic yeah but mrekk would be pumping 1.3,1.4 and 1.5ks a lot more to the point that a single 1.7k pp play isn't worth enough to outweigh them
@avisar3457
@avisar3457 7 ай бұрын
if this goes through i think they should fix only top score submitting, so many plays will give so much more pp but not get submitted because of score v1.
@bananacat3109
@bananacat3109 7 ай бұрын
that's one of the reasons it's not happening now. they need to develop a system for that in stable.
@StackoTra
@StackoTra 7 ай бұрын
lazer has the infrastructure but stable...
@Zyluki
@Zyluki 7 ай бұрын
play lazer only top score isnt on lazer(im pretty sure at least)
@fivepandas1
@fivepandas1 7 ай бұрын
@@Zylukiwdym
@Zyluki
@Zyluki 7 ай бұрын
@fivepandas1 all scores submit online; In the standard client, only the highest score play per mod combination submits for PP And, as we know, SV1 kinda sucks
@DavolafShorts
@DavolafShorts 7 ай бұрын
I NEEDED THIS VIDEO! Very well explained boss, thank you!
@parali30
@parali30 7 ай бұрын
Omg its the shorts guy1!1!!!1!!!1!1!1!
@givikap120
@givikap120 7 ай бұрын
Surprisingly, what makes the bigger difference here is not even combo scaling removal itself, but change of the miss formula It was exponential before, so no matter how long map is, how hard it is, how consistent the difficulty is, big amount of misses will destroy all pp Now it's quadratic, with dependency on amount of hard parts in the map, making even 100 miss plays worth some pp Combo scaling removal itself is mostly about plays with 1-2-3 misses in the middle, when change of miss formula covers pretty much everything else Also, thanks Willy from the pp dev team for making this video with clarifications
@d.f.x.2481
@d.f.x.2481 7 ай бұрын
This would make "farming" so much more fun and if/when we get it it will shift the leaderboards by sooo much
@oruclu53
@oruclu53 7 ай бұрын
I think this is a great change. osu being a very combo dependent game was a issue since the beginning and I think this will encourage people to enjoy the game more and be more creative.
@goinkosu
@goinkosu 7 ай бұрын
a few years ago I thought score>pp would be something that peppy would fix in 2 days and say "Why didn't anyone tell me about this"... but since it's apparently Still here I really hope this change incentivizes that change to happen soon
@georgeorwell4752
@georgeorwell4752 7 ай бұрын
Hate to break it to you but since it is fixed in lazer im not sure if classic will ever get this change
@yorunoken
@yorunoken 6 ай бұрын
Context on 0:40, the change hasn't been merged. It needs some extra stuff from peppy's side to be implemented on Stable to actually get merged into the base game.
@TheNamesXander_
@TheNamesXander_ 7 ай бұрын
This would be a mind blowing change, honestly might return to the game if this goes into affect
@LucyBebee
@LucyBebee 7 ай бұрын
same. combo scaling is the reason I stopped caring about my standard ranking
@BigSources
@BigSources 4 ай бұрын
I genuinely dont get how this is even debateable. "It nerfs fcs" yeah, skillfull plays with misses will finally be worth something. PP should tell you how good a player is, if a 4 digits most impressive play is a 7pp play, how is that accurately displaying the players skill?
@Z-man840
@Z-man840 7 ай бұрын
One thing I feel like I'd consider a lot that is briefed at 8:56 is that it helps incentivizes accuracy over combo. Given consideration with all forms of players instead of just the top ones, I feel like it helps create better habits than a bare minimum for combo control. I think there are players who end up giving up accuracy in certain map patterns just to FC a map at its current state.
@BigSources
@BigSources 4 ай бұрын
The problem with the entire pp system isn't just combo scaling. It's the fact that a good play doesn't correlate to high pp. High performance doesn't correlate to high performance points if you missed a lot. You could theoretically have a 7 digit player with the worlds most insane pass plays ever and thats a problem. In real life that would be like a genius rocket scientist single-handedly designing a self-landing rocket but in the last second of the landing, it tips over, falls, explodes and then the next day the genius rocket scientist is forced to go back to elementary school to reeducate himself and they would do that unironically in full seriousness. The rocket scientist would sit through elementary school for a couple of years again because the rocket he designed tipped over on landing.
@typicalw
@typicalw 7 ай бұрын
I personally enjoy trying to pass maps that are way above my skill level, so if this means setting a little more than 1-30pp im down lol
@bananacat3109
@bananacat3109 7 ай бұрын
thank you for this video. I think people are shocked by losing pp in combo scaling removal, but they'll find eventually that they'd gain pp from plays they wouldn't gain from before. And of course, on pp rework websites, unless you specifically search for your plays, for most people, they don't calculate plays that aren't already in your top 100. I'm guessing a lot of people will probably find new top plays entering their top 100, because everyone misses sometimes.
@Khetomi1
@Khetomi1 6 ай бұрын
This rework will actually make me better because it will finally get me out of the retry spam habit and make longer maps more viable for me
@ShoFox
@ShoFox 6 ай бұрын
This will actually get me back into playing more.. Because I always felt so defeated if I didn't FC cuz it felt like nothing mattered.
@DarkSansTV
@DarkSansTV 6 ай бұрын
YES YES YES YES YES!!! ALL KINDS OF YES!!! This rework is a HUGE W in my opinion because combo based pp is actually so bad and I'm glad that the pp system is getting a rework that actually gives you something for playing something harder and passing it, passes aren't worth nothing anymore and that's incredible, great job to the team for that one, but, there's still one glaring issue, and it's in lazer (cut to the framerate counter not going passed 1000Hz) yeah, this is a problem
@theneon08x
@theneon08x 7 ай бұрын
this might actually make me return potentially after like 1.5 years lmao
@Poorg00
@Poorg00 7 ай бұрын
Finaly that change is perfect for me, I get shaky at the end of maps and also i like to play diffs that i know i can't fc but i can pass with good acc.
@GrowMode_YT
@GrowMode_YT 6 ай бұрын
Same, the only reason my rank is 1.8 million is because I play 5-6 star maps, so I shake and choke in the middle of the map
@qtlunya
@qtlunya 6 ай бұрын
If you tend to miss near the *end* of maps, this won't change too much for you.
@Cocosluvsu
@Cocosluvsu 7 ай бұрын
Putting Aricin's iceangel score as an example is one of the most goated moves I've ever seen. I always thought this score was absurd and people don't appreciate it enough because of combo scaling
@32KZ
@32KZ 7 ай бұрын
i think that this change makes the awarded PP of each player more accurately reflect their skills, and can remove the grindy aspect of trying to mindlessly FC a map you have mindblock on, making ranked play more enjoyable, as you can set a worthwhile score on any map as long as its hard enough, and you play well enough. it splits the casual ranked players from the diehards, as it it still rewards Consistent play. i can see this making lots of different songs available to practice on whilst still gaining pp. for most players, i can see this feeling more rewarding. overall, having the option to gain reasonable PP from a new variety of maps especially when you have less time to play the game, IE inside the 7-5 digit range, will make the game alot more enjoyable for the vast majority of the playerbase. What do you guys think? i don't know what other takes there are on this change.
@bloomd6320
@bloomd6320 6 ай бұрын
this is amazing. I've always criticized combogame and they finally made changes to it. Perfect time to return to osu.
@pirateosu9407
@pirateosu9407 6 ай бұрын
as someone who hasnt been able to keep up with the community skill level increasing, this change would probably bring me back to the game to want to play again. it would be the best thing to ever happen to the game IMO
@minecraftmaster1678
@minecraftmaster1678 6 ай бұрын
this change will make pp based on how many misses you get rather than where you missed, my plays that got heavily nerfed are maps where I chain missed at the end meanwhile my 99% 1 miss on a long 5.8 star got buffed by over 30pp, making it my 5th highest play after rework. This is a good change that will give incentive to playing harder maps rather than easy farm maps
@ExorG
@ExorG 6 ай бұрын
Akatsuki Relax mode has a similar system already implemented, and I have to say it makes farming better in many ways. Not only does it help with consistency since you're not getting used to spamming retries, but it also makes playing harder maps much more rewarding when you finally get a decent miss count. This unlocks some of the middle difficulty spike maps. The only problem I see is ending chokes - one of the most common places to miss or slider break on the final slider/circles. Previously, this costed no pp loss, and for a good reason. Now, it's going to be tilting af.
@Goatgarien
@Goatgarien 6 ай бұрын
The closer pp goes towards sound voltex's Volforce system, the better it becomes. Good change
@limon8856
@limon8856 7 ай бұрын
ive been fiending for this rework since it was first thrown around, this will make the game so much better and there is really no argument against it
@IzzyIsntReal
@IzzyIsntReal 7 ай бұрын
I actually cannot wait for this update. Being forced to full combo somewhat easy maps if I want to gain any rank has always been my only gripe with osu standard.
@BigGeordieUK_
@BigGeordieUK_ 6 ай бұрын
i only dabble in standard, taiko being my main and this change makes me want to play more standard in the future, i just hope score v2 becomes standard for all modes soon
@Skillertvv_
@Skillertvv_ 7 ай бұрын
this pp change will bring back the joy of playing the game. I improve every day but one thing I never improved on is nerves. Pretty much all my cool scores are shit misses on air and hit the hard stuff. Glad to hear thay soon those plays will be rewarded accordingly
@dstnfrr
@dstnfrr 6 ай бұрын
As someone who just recently started playing again and started farming pp to get up on the Germany Leaderboard (#2962 rn), this would make pp farming so so much better since i usually get 30-40pp from a 80-110pp map because i didnt have high combos
@SmyeOsu
@SmyeOsu 6 ай бұрын
I started mania in 2014 and loved the fact that we can get good score without FC, have tried to go back to STD in 2016 using HR/HD a lot and was frustrated cause i got some play that i was proud but the they wasn't fitting the FC PP system, that the best change they can go for STD players. The worst they can do is sliders with activate/release like LN (Coming from an LN enjoyer), i hope they never do that cause players just gonna quit.
@jym2r
@jym2r 7 ай бұрын
wow you explained this really well thanks billy
@lasergd6806
@lasergd6806 6 ай бұрын
I swear if this happens i'm coming back to the game. I've never liked to play for fc's, I've always liked to play really hard stuff with the minimal amount of misses, but the lack of progression made me so demotivated.
@koid
@koid 7 ай бұрын
last lazer devlog said osu was a "rhythm" game but genuinely i think its a rhythm game now
@IzzyIsntReal
@IzzyIsntReal 7 ай бұрын
With this change, rank will actually mean something outside of like the top 10.
@animationgaming8539
@animationgaming8539 6 ай бұрын
they should do it like beat saber, where you get a combo that maxes out at 8x and briefly drops lower when you miss.
@potasium_
@potasium_ 6 ай бұрын
beat sabers scoring isnt combo based at all though, you get 8x multiplier for hitting 128 notes, and even then the score basically acts as accuracy itself where getting a miss on a map with x amount of notes will always drop you x amount of score no matter where the miss happens to be, its actually really boring in hindsight which is probably why the modding scene for the game is insanely active
@tohkan
@tohkan 7 ай бұрын
as someone who gets really bad nerves on any map with more than 500 combo, this really helps 😅
@rufusneumann9703
@rufusneumann9703 6 ай бұрын
I enjoy fc'ing maps, but I appreciate that the system actually gets (more or less) gets fixed now after all these years
@Xeconis
@Xeconis 6 ай бұрын
I'm one of those people that has a lot of 1 miss plays, it's like my status quo, and many of them are between 50-70% on the map progress, but I hold 98+% acc most of the time, too. This rework benefits my skill issue at being just shy of all these FCs, but I think there's something more important. It incentivizes players to play maps at a higher SR than they usually would, because getting a 12 miss 4 sb play on a map 1 SR higher than your comfortable FC SR will not be worth pennies in this new economy. That gets players to push themselves on maps that are difficult to play instead of difficult to FC, and overall helps with skillset development.
@vexxter7597
@vexxter7597 7 ай бұрын
I feel like this makes the game more fun and enjoyable for me. Often times when I just slider break in the middle i just give up the map and become frustrated when this happens on a lot of maps. But if i know that I wont get like 50pp but rather something I can still be fine with, thats actually really cool. I mean if I still get some pp even if I break, but dont want to farm a Map for 100 tries to get the FC eventually, im completely fine with that. Actual good change that I think will make the game more fun, even getting some pp when just trying to have fun.
@xd3athclawx554
@xd3athclawx554 7 ай бұрын
yeah I think what people mean by not going for fc is that they think because a 1 miss anywhere in the map gives majority pp that there is no reason to go for the fc to gain 100pp extra (like in whitecat yomi yori hr). Though overall this is definitely good because mrekk walk this way being worth almost 2kpp less because of 11 misses with that acc is insane. 1300 is way more accurate imo.
@EpiX0R
@EpiX0R 7 ай бұрын
As someone who played alot daily back in the days and reached #15k global in standard I feel like these are good changes. What got me to that rank was not skill, it was farming the same 500 max combo 6.2* jump map over and over with HD to get more PP. I was never incentivised to get better, I never wanted to play harder maps because I was "good enough" to farm PP. I recently started playing a bit again (partly bc of your channel, partly bc osu! Dev channel) and I feel like combo has been a big issue ever since the beginning. I think I personally could improve at the game a lot with this new system. I'm eager to see how my (now #75k) rank decays even further with these changes.
@umaru1942
@umaru1942 6 ай бұрын
you mean I'm incentivized to be consistent, get a good, high acc play and getting the lowest amount of misses I can, instead of retry spamming a 1:30 long farm map of which the first 75 seconds are just to build combo off of the hard pattern at the end where I'll miss everywhere? cant believe i have to be good at the game now
@demapping
@demapping 6 ай бұрын
i had a play on nasyas ghost rule that was crazy for my rank at the time i had set it, being as i had missed on the easy part of the map about 500 combo in, i had absolutely no nerves going into the diffspike and almost fced the entire diffspike, with only 2 misses right at the end of the map. 4 misses total, i know nasyas ghost rule might be the easiest 7* in the game, but this was effectively a almost 400pp (387 if fc) choke that i set when i had just a few 250s as my tops lol, with the rework it will be getting bbuffed from 209 to 270pp, which i think is appropriate. the play is still at the top of my nochoke at 387pp if fc to this day. i have not been able to replicate the performance since
@chrisdrums1910
@chrisdrums1910 6 ай бұрын
I think the walk this way play should be worth more than 1323 honestly, one of the craziest things ever done
@DJruslan4ic
@DJruslan4ic 6 ай бұрын
Yay! Most mobile/modern RGs always valued acc more than combo for score and rating anyways. Nice to hear that osu is going to be in-line.
@senoen
@senoen 6 ай бұрын
this change is very good, now retry spam after the first miss is less valuable, so it will improve skill and consistency for most players. the only problem kira kira choke is now my number 1 play
@shurik_sama
@shurik_sama 6 ай бұрын
i think it is a upside that the pp system will be following suite with something similar to mania pp, but people farming will probably stop going for full combos because of the negligible pp difference from getting a full combo vs a 1 miss on a hard section. I think there still should be a slightly higher PP for full comboing a map but at the same time there shouldn't be such a harsh pp drop off after missing once or twice on easy section's of a map that people at that skill level are prone to fumbling on.
@osufanplayer
@osufanplayer 7 ай бұрын
let's goooo my rank will double after months of not playing
@TheFrenchPlayer
@TheFrenchPlayer 7 ай бұрын
If everyone's rank doubles then nothing will happen to your rank
@Usieeeeee
@Usieeeeee 7 ай бұрын
I’ll go from 240k to 65k lol
@Marquipuchi
@Marquipuchi 6 ай бұрын
@@Usieeeeee no you wont.
@ZhenJi88
@ZhenJi88 6 ай бұрын
@@Usieeeeee name?
@catagamas
@catagamas 6 ай бұрын
@@Usieeeeee and I'll go from 130k to 3 digit
@Drag0n4key
@Drag0n4key 7 ай бұрын
this will actually get me into grinding both mania and std again i hope it also counts to ctb and taiko aswell
@4us1onOsu
@4us1onOsu 7 ай бұрын
Mania getting that LN nerf. If you look at the recalculations, almost all top players are losing more than 1000+pp.
@4us1onOsu
@4us1onOsu 7 ай бұрын
Oh on my experience. I think Taiko has been doing that. When I miss near the end, I still gain a good amount of pp
@bymentix3184
@bymentix3184 6 ай бұрын
This would single handedly stop me from restarting save me everytime i miss once on like 2-3k combo
@_Akitsu
@_Akitsu 7 ай бұрын
Thank you. Now i can finally understand that after 8.5 years of playing the game ;D
@peanutbutterbean1738
@peanutbutterbean1738 7 ай бұрын
Damn, looks like i might actually start playing again if this change rolls out, this is what ive been waiting for
@kapg007
@kapg007 6 ай бұрын
I actually liked maybe too much this change but bc of the announce i checked the docs bout this thing and i remember ive read that they will actually just adjust the "miss count" so an SB wouldnt change the formula. Hopefully i interpreted those docs wrong because then it will flop abruptly... SB are also in everyones osu session which ruins FC runs so same problem as literal misses
@overlycaffeinated4857
@overlycaffeinated4857 6 ай бұрын
MY CURSE HAS BEEN LIFTED AFTER 3 YEARS OF PRAYING I CAN FINALLY LIVE IN PEACE
@Jolteg
@Jolteg 6 ай бұрын
So basically, you get a lot of pp from fc'ing the high diff part of the map, the low diff part doesn't matter. I like it
@Vaxii
@Vaxii 6 ай бұрын
Taiko PP system is a lot like this, a lot of it depends on the acc instead of the Combo, I've had combo breaks in scores and still have 500pp scores, of course you still have to have decent combo but it factors a lot more on the acc instead of the combo.
@upbeat6639
@upbeat6639 7 ай бұрын
nice vid! agreed fully! the change on walk this way seems too much at first... unless you realise how much you get for FC, and then you realise that it's... scaled quite well actually lol, and that actually the fc might be overweighted. hence such
@HoopsyInspects
@HoopsyInspects 7 ай бұрын
I'm getting buffed as a clearing player (I haven't forced myself to suffer fc's on farm maps yet)
@RyArVBD
@RyArVBD 7 ай бұрын
This is basically the akatsuki!rx pp system without the relax reduction to pp
@twー
@twー 6 ай бұрын
Used to not like the rework until this video, now I think it's fair.
@Goooooonz
@Goooooonz 6 ай бұрын
Finally i don't have to retry spam when i broke combo just like in mania
@vengirgirem
@vengirgirem 6 ай бұрын
Yes. YES!!! I've wished for this for a long time
@BicheTordue
@BicheTordue 6 ай бұрын
i started playing rythm game on osu mania, when i moved to standar i didn't understand why they made combo way more important than accuracy
@ChaosFury1
@ChaosFury1 7 ай бұрын
Osu really likes mrekk bro passed a 14 star on stream and said “I can’t play” with this rework that 14 star will be so good
@cameronsmorey6943
@cameronsmorey6943 7 ай бұрын
They have this sort of system for osu taiko so I can't wait for them to do this to standard as well.
@engineergaming8162
@engineergaming8162 5 ай бұрын
Imagine they'd add this to Osu!catch.
@Zenox6990
@Zenox6990 7 ай бұрын
i think this gives some what of a reason for the top players to actually see the gain in something rather then just well i got this but like we humans like to SEE the progress ourselfs, so i think this rework could be an intresting change.
@nael6072
@nael6072 7 ай бұрын
if this rework actually happens, i'd actually have multiple 400 (my top play 378 lmao)
@SixDigitOsu
@SixDigitOsu 7 ай бұрын
osu! will finally become a rhythm game
@eda2000-r8h
@eda2000-r8h 6 ай бұрын
osu mania player: wait, why all this sound so familar 🤔🤔
@SEANKlM
@SEANKlM 7 ай бұрын
i actually hated the idea for a while now. after watching this, im kinda onboard with the changes now.
@flam381
@flam381 6 ай бұрын
mrekk, will be unstoppable after this rework
@bluosu
@bluosu 7 ай бұрын
such a W video dude WE LOVBE WILLY
@friedtoaster00
@friedtoaster00 6 ай бұрын
actually crazy good video
@Andrew_Malyshev
@Andrew_Malyshev 7 ай бұрын
I kinda feel like combo scaling removal will lower my pp because i have a lot of last note or last part chokes. I get so nervous at the end of fcing a map that my eyes water and i stop breathing
@Cheerio727
@Cheerio727 6 ай бұрын
S(h)ame brother😮‍💨
@_A23
@_A23 7 ай бұрын
bro i’m losing 44pp in this rework what the flip
@stargazerOF
@stargazerOF 7 ай бұрын
im interested, how can u check that? the rework isnt out yet right?
@_A23
@_A23 7 ай бұрын
@@stargazerOF google “osu! pp rework calculator” it should be the first result
@lordskoli7184
@lordskoli7184 7 ай бұрын
@@stargazerOF you can preview how combo scaling removal affects everyone at huismetbenen, make sure you choose the correct rework, as there's couple of them.
@megagrut1533
@megagrut1533 7 ай бұрын
how can u check?
@KnightArt708
@KnightArt708 7 ай бұрын
You're a perfectionist if you're actually losing pp for this rework lol
@mitch2456
@mitch2456 6 ай бұрын
So basically it buffs those with skill issue pog
@_bullit
@_bullit 7 ай бұрын
mrekk 3mod walk this way deserves to be 1.3k
@syntinel9481
@syntinel9481 7 ай бұрын
I love this rework generally, but my only qualm with it is that combo-scaling, whether purposefully or not, rewarded consistency and nerve control. It encourages more players to focus on their consistency (which is of course, up to their choices as a player, regardless of the PP system; an operative that encourages that is something I personally think is good for players, however, even though player improvement is probably not one of the goals of the PP developers) and how to control their ability to play at a high level despite being so close to the essentially "perfect" (no miss) run. FC's are still definitely worth a decent amount more than some choke, so it's not a massive concern of mine, but I think it's still something to consider. Of course, with the new PP system, people might run into nerves from a different source (cb count), now aware of the current (future) PP system, but it only inflates the issues related to consistency mentioned before. Players will not pushed as much to reach insane levels of steady play at certain skill levels to FC maps; of course, this isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it's certainly a huge shift, potentially creating more incentive for players to push raw skill at the expense of some consistency (sort of like mania and its accuracy scaling, but not nearly as dire of a focus) or other changes in how players perceive the game and may also encourage players to farm pp even if they've lost confidence in their consistency, creating a more actively rank-pushing playerbase. Of course, this is all merely speculation. There's bound to be huge pp inflation too, lol. All that said, a lot of the problems people have with this rework are also likely just due to them (and myself) being so used to the old system and having our own way of looking at the game adjacent to it that the rework just feels a bit alien. This is just some food for thought I had on the topic and, as I mentioned before, I mostly like this rework a ton.
@Saeki2001
@Saeki2001 7 ай бұрын
You know what also rewards consistency? That S rank. If they really wanted to they could perhaps make a poll asking whether sliderbreaks ruin a S rank. That way, only if you truly no miss you can get an S rank which would show you 'mastered' that map. Yeah you can say combo rewarded consistency, but is it really rewarding consistency when you get 95% accuracy on a 1 minute song? An S rank should just be to show you have nomissed a map
@syntinel9481
@syntinel9481 6 ай бұрын
@@Saeki2001 Sliderbreaks are being confirmed to be turned into misses in the future in lazar, I think. 99% vs 95% is a huge pp difference, but your point is still taken. It's like the combo version of the concern I raised about miss count lmao
@HydoYT
@HydoYT 7 ай бұрын
it'll also fix a lot of frustrasion with mindblock 👍
@Odaxelagnia.
@Odaxelagnia. 6 ай бұрын
yay, I actually want to submit scores now
@SpilledShelf5
@SpilledShelf5 6 ай бұрын
Ironically I lose pp in this rework because it punishes chokes and most of my top plays are either fcs or chokes
@spooderman4990
@spooderman4990 5 ай бұрын
Yea wtf, I hddt necrofantasia, remote control, fc til the end, miss one just to be rewarded “183 pp” then a “-1”
@BigSources
@BigSources 4 ай бұрын
This will make people play less pp far maps and retry over and over again and instead will push them to play maps that are actually fun and challenging to play WHILE getting rewarded with rank for it. This is obviously well healthier for the game.
@ValentinoEnsuchoza
@ValentinoEnsuchoza 7 ай бұрын
If this happens mrrek Is automatically going to reach 30k pp no joke
@alphabeta3528
@alphabeta3528 6 ай бұрын
Yahoo 4 years of playing but my ranking is still 600k Happy gaming
@wricc
@wricc 7 ай бұрын
game is lowkey saved😭
@Psiki
@Psiki 7 ай бұрын
i have two 11*'s in my top 5 i love this rework
@xRiver007
@xRiver007 7 ай бұрын
based...
@SEANKlM
@SEANKlM 7 ай бұрын
wtf
@bananamonkeygaming14
@bananamonkeygaming14 7 ай бұрын
What maps
@kasimirri
@kasimirri 7 ай бұрын
I would have a 10 star in my top plays and I'm 5 digit
@kapg007
@kapg007 6 ай бұрын
Username or osu id 👀
@Mugi-v7w
@Mugi-v7w 7 ай бұрын
AYYY a Willy video!
@koiukizi6741
@koiukizi6741 7 ай бұрын
no more heart attack inducer
@__Junioor__
@__Junioor__ 7 ай бұрын
pp inflation is real...
@_san7
@_san7 7 ай бұрын
My pp is inflated😫
@hevilmateold
@hevilmateold 7 ай бұрын
i was watching the video with stone face, but at 8:05 i got neuron activation. a rework that buffs insane plays like this (especially mrekk scores) will be a banger. where can i sign for it?
@oOBullenOo
@oOBullenOo 7 ай бұрын
All my good plays are chokes so I will hopefully go flying up
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