Wing Chun Master Vs BJJ Black belt for Self Defense

[@MYVLMA]

Thank you for the experience with your Selfdefense system! It works 100%! I hope we were able to show that different ways can have the same outcome, as long as they are reality based and easy to use. Ilan you are a great guy and a very dedicated teacher, who wants his students to feel and be safe in a real life challenge, regardless of your passion for a system. Looking forward to our next session. God bless you my friend!

[@inside_fighting]

Feel the same about you sir! Very glad i met you and hope to do more 🙏🏼

[@ArthursAtman]

Really enjoy these videos w/ Milos--great perspective from both of you! thx guys

[@inside_fighting]

@@ArthursAtman appreciate you watching them! Milo’s is a one of a kind guy

[@victorsimpson4487]

Great presentation, Ilan. You and Milos are very clear on how you present your approaches to martial arts. I've watched both of your channels numerous times. Cheers from Ottawa.

[@russellchen9779]

Fascinating! Fantastic! Thank you so much !!

[@inside_fighting]

Much appreciated!

[@chendaforest]

5:40 That is essentially 'the fence' technique as taught by Geoff Thompson back in the 1990s,. Protect with your lead hand and pre-emptively strike with the rear. I don't know if Milo was influenced by him, good ideas usually get independently discovered.

[@SoldierDrew]

It's been practiced in boxing and fisticuffs before Geoff Thompson was ever born.

[@chendaforest]

@@SoldierDrew I suspect its been practiced for centuries in various forms.

[@jamiancarreon9896]

I am really enjoying the collaboration that the two of you are doing together and I've actually started following Milo's stuff as well

[@inside_fighting]

I’m really glad to hear that. Hard for me to express how much i respect him in such a short time… he’s a special guy so i hope his following continues to grow. He deserves it!

[@jamiancarreon9896]

@@inside_fighting I originally started in traditional martial arts and did a little southern praying mantis, not a lot but enough to see how closely related Wing Chun, and chow gar/tong long are related. He's filling in alot of gaps I had in my previous training

[@davidlandeo5722]

Love is love ,im glad youre happy and getting stronger

[@desamster]

I like your approach of shelling up and driving in. It protect the vulnerable areas, so you aren't as exposed. Fits my instinctive reactions. Interested to see the follow up.

[@nightrod2237]

Good vid guys , liked both approaches!

[@mariusreinecker1556]

You're my second fav martial artist duo ever! Close second place after Master Ken and Todd, so don't feel bad. There's just no topping them.

[@inside_fighting]

@@mariusreinecker1556 thank you :) we know we could never take master Ken’s place 🙏🏼

[@laruibasar]

Nice to see different approaches to start protecting oneself right before the actual attack, great video!

[@inside_fighting]

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@dmcc1703]

More of this stuff! I love the practicality you both bring to the table.

[@inside_fighting]

Thanks so much!

[@ardeleanuradu]

This series you do with Milos is the most valuable for SD since the supported elbow frame - ''You are already dead'' made by the late Joseph Simonet from Ki Fighting System. BYy the way, I would love to hear your take on that system. Thank you, bro.

[@inside_fighting]

@@ardeleanuradu I’ll definitely do a review on it! Really glad to know you like it

[@fabchi4597]

This mutual exchange is amazing, keep going guys you have the best contents

[@inside_fighting]

@@fabchi4597 i feel lucky knowing get to train with Milos. I learn something different every time we meet up

[@fabchi4597]

@@inside_fighting he is an encyclopedia of fighting knowledge

[@jess96154]

Really enjoying the collab between you two

[@inside_fighting]

@@jess96154 we will be doing more! He also posts a lot on his channel and he’s great

[@jess96154]

@@inside_fighting yep, he's got a lot of good stuff too. Thanks for calling out his channel

[@Rome4787]

Ilan I really appreciate your base positions 2:30 in your self defense style. Very similar to how my dad taught me to box cross arm style and dirty boxing for self defense. I think these positions in combination with upper body grappling and clinching are good for self defense because if you win the inside game and clinch game you are always winning the initiative and more able to dictate the range and intensity. Also, Milo’s forearms look strong af

[@inside_fighting]

His forearms are so strong it’s not normal 😂

[@maykellavarrereschavez664]

Muchas gracias por responderme

[@jamescantrell5639]

In Pentjak Silat Bukti Negara, we do something similar to the block at 2:23. Only we turn our palm towards the opponents face so more striking bone makes contact while trying to do a fire step to rush in for another attack (usually an elbow somewhere). And yes, if you've ever even practiced this at 20-30%. If your the one taking the blocking hit. Your arm will be sore for almost a week.

[@inside_fighting]

Yes it’s quite painful to receive it

[@erichanson7293]

This is just plain good stuff.

[@inside_fighting]

Thank you 🙏🏼

[@Kempojiujitsu7829]

Thank you so much

[@KasaiFilms8]

Memories of training with my Guro Ilan...every techique he teaches 100 percent works!!

[@inside_fighting]

Miss training with you brother 🙏🏼

[@samircholera17]

You should look up Lee Morrison Urban Combatives. Very similar style to yours. Great channel btw! I like all the new martial arts and perspectives you are able to bring together

[@gThomasHagg]

Thank you guys a lot for these! Can you please try to increase the sound a bit on the uploads though? I find myself needing to adjust the volume knob quite a lot when watching your videos.

[@inside_fighting]

@@gThomasHagg yes absolutely. It was a hard day to shoot cuz of the thunderstorms so it drowns out the sound when you cut them out

[@gThomasHagg]

@@inside_fighting Understood. I will myself bear with any distortions in order to listen to you guys. I just can't on the one hand assault my neighbor with the often higher sound level of the intro or not hear you speaking at all. =)

[@inside_fighting]

@@gThomasHagg 😂😂 it will get better i promise

[@EliteBlackSash]

This method reminds me of 52 Blocks Prison Fighting System from the 80s. Which also is mixture of Street fighting, Peekaboo Boxing, Philly Shell, KungFu (including wing chun, from Brooklyn), and improvised weaponry. In the case of the hand in the face, people will duck their head down and swing overhead - from up to down, rather than wide to the outside. The shoulder raised postures work for the guest because he’s a grappler first and a striker second. Once he gets body contact, he can dominate from there

[@peekaboojujitsoo525]

You should put something out on BJJ Fanatics. "Inside Fighting"

[@inside_fighting]

@@peekaboojujitsoo525 that would be amazing!

[@MrRourk]

Use either Bagua or Ashihara techniques to get to the back.

[@inside_fighting]

Both great systems

[@junichiroyamashita]

I welcome every strategy and theory to shut down BJJ. I have seen Jamie Notthingam trying to apply Wing Chun concepts on the ground. I have heard that there is a Wing Chun style in vietnam, by Law family,called Snake Pattern Wing Chun. They have a specific type of training that focuses on longer engagements than standard WC,called Suen Sao,snake hands.

[@mikeneidlinger8857]

There are a lot of variations. I watched Benny Meng videos before he took them down. I think his name is Benny Meng. He is the curator of the Wing Chun Museum. I am staying up all night in Seattle drinking coffee. It's 3:30 am.

[@inside_fighting]

@@junichiroyamashita I’ve been doing bjj my whole life and feel the best way to shut it down is to use strikes and have a good base in grappling. It’s why bjj is not as effective in mma anymore

[@junichiroyamashita]

@@inside_fighting my theory was stand and bang too,looking into Sumo and Sanda specifically for that.

[@earlagustin1543]

This self defense is 1000000% legit!!!

[@inside_fighting]

@@earlagustin1543 appreciate that!

[@nuclearmedicineman6270]

The biggest mistake I see in self defense is the lack of low kicks. 90% of the time the first move is a haymaker, or a bear hug. My go-to counter is a low kick aimed at the knee; almost nobody on the streets has proper kick defense, and even guys who do rarely have any experience fighting with shoes on.

[@screamtheguy6425]

It's hard to do it because in sparring you hold back your kicks and it's difficult to actually kick all the way through to hyperextend that knee if you've been a nice sparring partner your whole life.

[@leroilapue15]

​@@screamtheguy6425 I had a kid do this to me when I was a young teen...I chased his ass around but 20 years later my knee blew out...I guess he won 😅

[@inside_fighting]

@@nuclearmedicineman6270 low kicks are valuable but for me they aren’t an immediate response under threat right before a hard haymaker is thrown. Everyone has their own approachbthoguh

[@James77721]

Was somehow unsubbed - Kudos as always!

[@SoldierDrew]

I was most impressed by the video you did about Keysi fighting for unarmed defense. But in most of the world predators use weapons, like knives, machete, bricks, stones, pipes and knuckle dusters. So IDF Yamam Major Itay Gil's Protect Krav Maga is most practical for edge weapon defenses.

[@angeloschneider4272]

The sound is a bit messy. But nice informational video.

[@MatthewApsey]

There is a good channel called Functional Self-Defense worth checking out.

[@inside_fighting]

@@MatthewApsey thank you 🙏🏼

[@MatthewApsey]

@@inside_fighting The guy deleted all his videos sometime ago so I reuploaded what I had available, be sure to look at the right one. Some good insights on what works and what doesn't. I wasn't able to recover everything unfortunately.

[@methodtraining]

What is Milo’s lineage. He’s an excellent teacher. I wish he was here in AZ. I would love to see his chi sao

[@inside_fighting]

@@methodtraining i may be misrwriting it but it’s Leung ting

[@MYVLMA]

@@inside_fighting Yes it is.

[@maykellavarrereschavez664]

Buenas tardes y saludos cordiales desde Cuba. Soy un seguidor de su canal de KZbin. Este video es muy instructivo. Pero quería agregar que existen muchas visiones y criterios sobre el Wing Chun y su infoque en el combate. Ojala pudiera contactar para un proximo video al Dai Sifu Emin Boztepe. Él tiene una perspectiva diferente y muy práctica del combate.

[@MYVLMA]

Yo aprendí de Emin tambien, el es un ejemplo excelente del Wing Tsun. Salidos a la gente de Cuba.

[@SonnyCrocket-p6h]

it's much safer to stay/get out of his reach. Anyone of those blows CAN be slashes/stabs with a knife and you wont know it until it's too late. Learn to REALLY kick well, guys, stop kicks wirh your arch, aimed at his shins/knee, side or front snap kicks at shins, knees, bladder.

[@inside_fighting]

@@SonnyCrocket-p6h range is the best when yoy can maintain it. Sometimes you can’t. Which is when you close in

[@bci3937]

Very Interessting "How to handle agression" sure in Training and learning pattern the "partner" mostly acting very static and un-natural. But later with more knowledge the aggression defence should be a main part in the training. Also if the Attacker is not trained in Martial Arts he act absolutely....different as expected.

[@randybowman]

Is paul vunak still alive? If he is you should do a video with thay guy.

[@alexanderren1097]

Plantation FL? That’s cool! Are you based in FL too? Would you be comfortable sharing what general location and do you have your own school? I’m near Daytona

[@inside_fighting]

@@alexanderren1097 I’m in Fort Lauderdale. I don’t currently have a school and only reach private or seminars on request. 🙏🏼

[@alexanderren1097]

@@inside_fighting Ok, thanks for the info. A bit far right now but maybe when the kids are older and we have a bit more time. Thanks!

[@robertjones4200]

No I am not in trouble. kick knees

[@mikeneidlinger8857]

BJJ only works with someone who doesn't know how to fight. I went to a few schools and as soon as you go outside of their rules, they get served. I do respect BJJ. it just won't work with someone who only knows BJJ! That's what I'm trying to say.

[@Maodifi]

That same logic could apply to any style that has competition or even just regulated sparring. Also, any practitioner of any style can learn others styles too, even BJJ practitioners. Nobody just learns one way of fighting these days.

[@mikeneidlinger8857]

I want to learn BJJ. It's tough to find a good school.

[@Fierydice]

Every BJJ gym I've ever come across has had at least one striking art taught under the same roof, and often a takedown art. I don't doubt that some people manage to learn no striking or takedowns in spite of this, but I don't fault the gym or the coaches.

[@mikeneidlinger8857]

I started practicing Silat and Escrima in 1993. In 2008 I switched to Tai Chi. I stopped going to BJJ schools. They are almost all geared for the students to win tournaments.

[@mikeneidlinger8857]

I went to this ridiculous one in 1996. All you have to do is push their hand aside and their technique doesn't work any more. Some of the art such as mount and the take back is especially good. The rear naked choke and the guillotine choke are effective. Pulling guard is ridiculous. I like to watch Black Belt BJJ Streetfights. The black belt rolls the spring chicken and submits quick.

[@D33pSpace-y8p]

where was the wing chun ? and 'driving in' as you say does not sound smart for self defence your opponent may know more wrestling than you or just lap your energy. Hit and run dude .

[@sodalis]

The last time I heard about flinch response was from Bill Blaur. S.P.E.A.R.

[@inside_fighting]

I think it’s a part of numerous self defense systems no? Just seems to make the most sense

[@sodalis]

@@inside_fighting What Baur proposes is not a fight system, but how to implement natural physiology, forensic research into a reactive technique that can complement whatever fighting system you rely on.

[@inside_fighting]

@@sodalis sounds very effective tbh