Wing Foiling | How to Correctly Downsize to Your Next Wing Board

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@janakay7641 9 ай бұрын

Nice video! For the ladies out there, I’m 50 kg weight and went from 90L to 75L to 58L and now 44L which is my semi-sinker. Been winging almost 2 years now. I found that dropping 15L or so was manageable as far as stability when kneeling to start etc. I definitely didn’t go lower than my body weight until ! was riding consistently, not falling much because the semi-sinker is challenging in choppy conditions. And when i did drop down to 44L I put my bigger front wing on to help get up. (About 1000) Haven’t entered the DW game yet but I suspect something around 50-60L would be good for me. Keep going! It’s all about time on the water!

@EllenTschritter 3 ай бұрын

Nice to hear advice from a lighter women

@kit3cut 9 ай бұрын

I started on a 135 liter with 85 kg. After a month I switched to a 105 liter. after 3 months then to 90 liters. The switch to the 90 liter was too early. The 90 liter is great when there is a lot of wind. But when the wind dies down it becomes really difficult to balance on it and makes life difficult. Now I have a 120 liter DW board for light wind days. Greetings from old Germany

@lewiss66 9 ай бұрын

Best channel worlwide so far! Keep up with the good pace!

@MACkiteboarding 9 ай бұрын

Thanks! Appreciate your kind words.

@kvenrecords6657 26 күн бұрын

Started on 98 liter with 93kg. End of season I weighed 80kg. Board was fun for two seasons. Now my daily driver is a 70liter 4-4 semisinker. In low winds i just put on the biggest 2000cm2 foil. With the short board big foils become different beasts. No need to sell them. They’re fun! And I can stilll stick with a 4-5 m wing which makes pumping up easier.

@allenshorter 9 ай бұрын

I went from a 110L to a 90L and found that tough. Not impossible, but I was burying the nose a lot when trying to pump up on foil. I recently purchased a Naish Downwind 105L and I LOVE it. It is 2lbs lighter than my 90 liter, which has made a huge difference for me in controling the board while on foil. I really like riding that Naish DW board in as low as 8-11kts with my 7M and 1500-1600 sqcm foil. I also feel more confindent in being able to slog back to shore (or even paddle) if the wind dies. I think I would only use my 90 now in big wind and super choppy days, but honestly the 90L bobs around like crazy and I might just go to a 70L at some point for the days it is choppy and over 18kts. With the longer downwind shape it is less stable side to side, but I NEVER bury the nose when pumping up switch. It slogs 1MPH faster than my 90L. The Naish DW 105 is a wider DW board than most of what you find out there, but if I would have bought that as my second board, I probably would have never fooled with wasting $ on my 90L and just gone to a 70L that can be a bit below the chop when I am getting on it instead of bobbing around everywhere. Maybe most do not live where it is as choppy every time there is wind, but for me the Naish DW was a game changer and I love the 105 much more than the 90L I have.

@raghuram2815 9 ай бұрын

Thank you, Allen for the details. Would you mind sharing how much you weigh and whether 110L was your first board you learnt on?

@allenshorter 9 ай бұрын

I am 75 Kilos. The 110L was a great board for me to learn on. 120 would have been great too. You will probably have that board for 40-60 days on the water before you want something else...so if you can, buy it used and don't worry if it is cheap and banged up. @@raghuram2815

@allenshorter 8 ай бұрын

75KG My first board was the 110, but it did not work with my foil very well. Tracks would not go far enough forward for the Armstrong foils.@@raghuram2815

@Highrocker1298 9 ай бұрын

Thanks! Really useful and practical tips for the next step. I really like your conservative approach and managing expectations based on the foiler's current skill level. I will be following your advice and grabbing a 90-100L as the next move from my current 115L board. I'll be keeping my big board though, there's just too many days when it's too cold to fall in. That big board is ultra stable. Keep the great content coming! Note: It's just odd that you showed the boards that are not recommended for most progressing foilers. Ha!

@larsdegroot 9 ай бұрын

Thanks guys. Started on a 140L. 2 sessions. Then a 117L, then a 98L. Now I'm on a 78L. Which is my sweetspot with 80KG. All the boards within one year😂

@fluiditynz 9 ай бұрын

For speed you can't beat a thin high aspect foil that can handle your weight with the local wind. My new favorite is 900mm span 1020 area, my own design, additional tapering of thickness. Love it. I'm 117kg, flying a wind wing 2.8m to 6m. Still some wing design tricks for manufacturers to work on. Many have part of the solution!

@jamalschott5547 9 ай бұрын

Great video - thanks for the intel!

@benjaminburns356 9 ай бұрын

Great video as always. 2024 has been a great year for downwind boards for winging from alot of manufacturers. Now theres more range do you have any advice on picking a downwind board for lightwind winging? Volume (relative to weight), length, width. Whats the magic formula? And what do you pair the board with for the foil and wing in say 12 knots. Your vid from 9 months ago is great, where are your opinions now?

@MACkiteboarding 9 ай бұрын

There isn't a magic bullet answer but it depends on your skills, model, foil quiver, wing quiver, and local conditions. For us ranging 80-95kg, our favorites hover from 85-100L and average around 95L and 19" wide. Feel free to chat or call for a personal suggestion -Tucker

@bjornalm9950 8 ай бұрын

Great video. How heavy are you guys?

@MACkiteboarding 8 ай бұрын

Jeff is about 165lbs, Ryan is 180lbs, and Tucker is 200lbs

@nfinnigan 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for your great videos and tips on gear. I'm struggling to pick my next board, where I stay you can't demo boards or try it gear, so I have to purchase a board and hope for the best. I have a starboard wing board 115ltrs and getting my jibes done 90% of the time, my weight is 95kg , and normally wing inland, can you recommend what board size would be good for my next purchase. Many thanks.

@MACkiteboarding 3 ай бұрын

Jump on chat with us sometime and we can run through all your options. The size will depend heavily on the model you choose and if you want to keep the 115L for lighter days. I'd say for a 2nd high performance option, I'd suggest around 70L in most models. If you are dumping the 115L, you'll want to be a little larger to preserve your low end range. -Tucker

@nfinnigan 3 ай бұрын

@MACkiteboarding Thanks for your reply and comments. I will jump on the chat and see what others are doing also, many thanks

@constantinosdrakakis897 3 ай бұрын

hi and congrats for your video. My weight is 91 kgs and probably go to 93 kgs wearing suit,vest, helmet etc and I am riding 105 lt board using 1100cm up to 750cm front wing in my hydrofoil. Consistent jibes and learning tacks. Considering a 90 lt board which will be -3 considering my 93 kgs (all equipment). So how do you find this choice? will it work in light wind or in small waves ? will this board support me on my knees over surface or will it sink ? Thank you 🤙

@MACkiteboarding 3 ай бұрын

For light winds and an easier experience, I'd keep around 100L. If you are looking for a board for good winds, I'd have a look at a 90L wingboard or 70-80L midlength. -Tucker

@constantinosdrakakis897 3 ай бұрын

@@MACkiteboarding thank you, for good wind but chop will I have issues with the 90lt?

@MACkiteboarding 3 ай бұрын

@@constantinosdrakakis897 At first, perhaps but you'll adapt quickly. Use your wing to lean on if you need balance. -Tucker

@andrewjamez 9 ай бұрын

Lessons on 130, bought 112l for a season then bought a 75l. Big change but adapting quickly but still a floater (just) at 145lb

@flowstatehandle 2 ай бұрын

Any advice on narrow vs wide boards in same literage as a progression from that 120 liter board?

@MACkiteboarding 2 ай бұрын

Great question-thanks for asking! 🤙🏽 Got a moment for a web chat? Click the following link, and we’ll do our best to help: messenger.providesupport.com/messenger/mackite.html

@windsurph Ай бұрын

Would a 80-90L midlength board fill that "next board after the beginner board" role or would you not recommend ML boards for beginner-intermediates?

@MACkiteboarding Ай бұрын

Yes, if you are riding confidently on your beginner board, that'd be the next step. An 80-90L mid will cover light to medium winds. If you are keeping your larger board for light winds, I'd encourage you to size down to 70-75L in a mid since they'll still have enough length for ease of use and much higher performance and "feel". -Tucker

@wsurfn 9 ай бұрын

So, equal to slightly larger than your Kg weight in liters? For 110kg, already upgraded the foil, nailing all his jibes and still learning tacks on a 125l/5'8" SkyWing?

@peterheirmanster 8 ай бұрын

they are advising too big boards. The more volume the harder it is to get through the shore break and rolling waves as the waves pull the board more. 65 years, 68kg, 67liter board - on holiday: Gong Hipe 4'11 70liters (which is to be compared with 60liters hard board)

@MACkiteboarding 8 ай бұрын

It will change per rider but what we are suggesting is a longer board with lower volume and narrower waist. I'm 200lbs and my favorite is a 5'4x20.5" 60L. However, I wouldn't start a new rider on that. -Tucker

@gerritraupach9059 9 ай бұрын

Hi from Germany, so you recommend 5-10 liter more then Kilograms for a rider who jibes stable? Regards, Gerrit

@scottbrechbiel2889 9 ай бұрын

@76kg started at 125L then got a 70L within 30days. Loved it! Just not having to lug that 125L board around anymore. Also tried the 34L 2 weeks after using the 70 and was able to get up but required a steady 15+ knots. Still have yet to try and tack. 70L and 21.5” x 5’2” is perfect right now

@scottbrechbiel2889 9 ай бұрын

Also those 30 days were riding every day in perfect conditions for 2-3 hours. Paracuru, Brazil recommended for anyone who wants to learn