Guess what? I'm STILL not lying. (Rant alert)

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Wings of Pegasus

Wings of Pegasus

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@RonniePeterson
@RonniePeterson 4 сағат бұрын
Everything you have presented here and before is just painfully obvious to anyone who is not tone deaf. You are a beaming light in all this darkness. Fil you are a LEGEND!
@AndrewHead-n2k
@AndrewHead-n2k 4 сағат бұрын
Even if you are sonically challenged (I wear hearing aids) the visual data does not lie.
@cupidok2768
@cupidok2768 4 сағат бұрын
Oh my God he's exposing all the horrible people that is trying to scam people
@johnvanstone5336
@johnvanstone5336 3 сағат бұрын
I second that emotion 🎉
@loriematthews6418
@loriematthews6418 3 сағат бұрын
Exactly. 👌🏼💯
@1msbucket
@1msbucket 3 сағат бұрын
For sure
@corilia9529
@corilia9529 4 сағат бұрын
Fil DON'T EVER STOP BEING A TRUTH CRUSADER!❤
@YtuserSumone-rl6sw
@YtuserSumone-rl6sw 2 сағат бұрын
Fil is the Sherlock Holmes of audio authenticity 😁
@geoffhipwell2198
@geoffhipwell2198 2 сағат бұрын
No worries Fil, you have more followers than detractors. Also KT has been caught doing some 'strange' things with his website, like deleting all the bad comments and then replacing them with favourable comments WRITTEN BY HIMSELF!! All amongst a heap of other dishonest behaviour. So just keep fighting the good fight Fil, we're behind you Mate.
@tuRbo-_-crOw
@tuRbo-_-crOw 2 сағат бұрын
The haters are classic deniers
@forrestunderwood3174
@forrestunderwood3174 Сағат бұрын
People need to know this.
@christianflierl8570
@christianflierl8570 5 минут бұрын
The anatomy of a lie. The thing you say that is happening is: 1. Not happening 2. Is happening 3. Is happening and it's good that its happening You can apply this to every liar who gets caught in any lie.
@lucysnowe31
@lucysnowe31 4 сағат бұрын
Don't forget that people are crazy these days, Fil. (Seriously) You always bring the receipts and present ample proof of what you're asserting. Rock on. I think you're great!
@ceb1970
@ceb1970 4 сағат бұрын
People have always been crazy, but now any crazy person can get an audience online and spread their insanity.
@CorvusCorone68
@CorvusCorone68 4 сағат бұрын
@@ceb1970 hear hear; any piece of technology is a tool, tools are force multipliers, and if misused or abused... they can do damage; toasters are tools, don't stick a fork in your toaster; cars are tools, don't drink and drive; computers with online access are tools, don't engage in cyberbullying common sense is being bred out of humanity in favor of intelligence and it's not good for anyone involved
@oldermusiclover
@oldermusiclover 4 сағат бұрын
@@CorvusCorone68 amen and agree
@GeorgeGanesh
@GeorgeGanesh 3 сағат бұрын
This!! Fil is way more polite about all this than I would ever be, and he is always focused on the facts. Don't let the trolls get you down Fil! You are doing amazing work.
@mikeydflyingtoaster
@mikeydflyingtoaster 3 сағат бұрын
@@ceb1970 Not quite, but you're close. It's not that any crazy person can get an audience, but that any person can go online and find lots of other crazy people with the same crazy opinions
@zyxwut321
@zyxwut321 4 сағат бұрын
My mom used to always say, "don't do the right thing when it's hard because you think everyone will understand and appreciate you. They usually won't. Do it because it's important to you." There are always lies, gossip and mischaracterizations that will inevitably come your way when you reveal difficult truths people don't want to hear. When many people are emotionally invested in an artist, they don't WANT to know the seedy underside of how the sausage gets made. Sorry you lost subscribers but please know that you've likely gained respect from the vast majority of us who regularly follow your content. Rock, my friend!
@1msbucket
@1msbucket 3 сағат бұрын
Fil does a nice job of just trying to plead his case without anger. Trying to get ppl to understand. He's very patient and heartfelt.
@stevetournay6103
@stevetournay6103 Сағат бұрын
At a very quick glance at just a bit of this comment thread, Fil seems to have picked up at least three new subs because of this...and that's just three I noticed. I'm quite sure he'll gain more than he loses.
@BoondockRoberts
@BoondockRoberts 3 сағат бұрын
“It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.” - Mark Twain
@loriematthews6418
@loriematthews6418 2 сағат бұрын
@@BoondockRoberts gotta love Mark Twain! 👌🏼💯
@JohnnyNoPockets
@JohnnyNoPockets 2 сағат бұрын
The rumors that humans are intelligent beings are greatly exaggerated LOL.
@Hobbs-1
@Hobbs-1 2 сағат бұрын
Absolutely.
@stuartanderson6785
@stuartanderson6785 40 минут бұрын
Exactly. Pointing out the fact that it was lip synched also pointed out the fact that these people were fooled and that pisses them off. Therefore they must attack the messenger rather than just accept the truth.
@madsquishy3410
@madsquishy3410 4 сағат бұрын
As someone who went to a lot of live shows back in the 90s I can tell you that I don't care how good a singer or band is, they never ever sound the same as their recordings do. And they never EVER sound the same live twice! Like you say, it's literally impossible! Everything effects your singing voice: tiredness, sickness, excitedness, your mood that day, what you ate, how hydrated you are, even crowd reaction will change things in the way the singer sounds. And dude, anyone who watches you can tell that you are such a sweet genuine person and not ever trying to hurt anyone. You have the kindest smile and voice and I know you're just trying to be honest in this situation and talk about something you're passionate about. Don't take strangers on the internet to heart bro. You know you're telling the truth so screw them lol.
@SuperStrik9
@SuperStrik9 4 сағат бұрын
Totally agree. I can only speak for myself but I'd rather hear a live vocal warts and all over a vocal using autotune live or even worse trying to pass off lip synching as actual live vocals.
@BrianHunsakerMusic
@BrianHunsakerMusic 4 сағат бұрын
Steve Perry, and Jimi Jamison did, for awhile. But you probably didn't see them back in the early 80's. You can find clips on KZbin of live performances. Also, Geoff Tate did for awhile.
@bk4062
@bk4062 4 сағат бұрын
I agree, to a point. Yes, some musicians sound exactly the same live or recording. Check out Pil's analysis of George Michael, in fact, there are few! 😎🎤😘🎶🎶🎶Perfection!
@JesperLund
@JesperLund 4 сағат бұрын
​@@BrianHunsakerMusic Ronnie James Dio.
@bogrot69
@bogrot69 4 сағат бұрын
@@bk4062 Milli Vanilli 🤣
@MexicoDigDoctor
@MexicoDigDoctor 4 сағат бұрын
Rant on, Fil. These things need to be said by someone knowledgeable like you! 🤗🇲🇽
@painsme2
@painsme2 4 сағат бұрын
What is wrong with knowing the truth? When the truth is harmful, and a lie is preferred we have a problem.
@MrJdsenior
@MrJdsenior 3 сағат бұрын
What when? The time is long since past, my friend.
@1msbucket
@1msbucket 3 сағат бұрын
And that problem is all over nowadays
@Wyl7
@Wyl7 Сағат бұрын
There’s unfortunately a reason why “ignorance is bliss” is a cliche
@TheSimCaptain
@TheSimCaptain 52 минут бұрын
Although, the truth is never harmful. It might be unpleasant to some, but it always leads to something of value.
@GA-1st
@GA-1st 42 минут бұрын
Welcome to the reality of 2024!
@steveserdikoff9347
@steveserdikoff9347 3 сағат бұрын
Nearly all of the commenters you referenced, in addition to being wrong on the facts, are also resorting to fallacious arguments. "Who are you to criticize?" Ad hominem attack/Courtier's reply. "I'm a famous singer and producer and I know!" Argument from authority. "Kent would never lipsync, he doesn't do that!" Circular reasoning/proof by assertion/moralistic reasoning. "Why do you attack Kent -- you're being mean!" Appeal to emotion/appeal to motivation. "Everyone knows Kent doesn't lipsync." Appeal to tradition/circular reasoning. "I am unsubscribing because of this!" Poisoning the well. So these negative comments were both unfactual and illogical. Keep going Fil! Your analysis is much appreciated!
@banksofchaos93
@banksofchaos93 3 сағат бұрын
Former teacher of rhetoric and argumentation approves this message.
@stevetournay6103
@stevetournay6103 Сағат бұрын
Fil will pick up more subs than he loses...
@TheSimCaptain
@TheSimCaptain 57 минут бұрын
Yep, appeal to authority is only acceptable when the authority gives evidence of being an acceptable authority.
@paulboulton5003
@paulboulton5003 15 минут бұрын
Kent caught with his trousers down!!!!
@davidwalker5665
@davidwalker5665 4 сағат бұрын
It's refreshing to hear someone, who believes FACTS override opinion, state his case. Social media has made facts irrelevant.
@oldermusiclover
@oldermusiclover 4 сағат бұрын
Dont bother me with facts my mind is made up this old expression is so true
@oneignite9803
@oneignite9803 3 сағат бұрын
it would be way nicer if you were just talking bs - but unfortunately you nailed it
@1msbucket
@1msbucket 3 сағат бұрын
Yep, the facts are what we say they are. Like the wicked with from oz said," what world, what a world"
@MrGamman3yt
@MrGamman3yt 2 сағат бұрын
Even judges are like "nah, it goes against the narritive".
@LegendLength
@LegendLength 27 минут бұрын
you're on social media
@nickdanger4568
@nickdanger4568 4 сағат бұрын
One thing I noticed in these replies... they never refuted you with facts, data or any other alternative version of analysis; they just voiced their opinion.
@mikeydflyingtoaster
@mikeydflyingtoaster 3 сағат бұрын
Absolutely. There's a lot of arguments from authority going on here. "Trust me. I've been doing this for xx years. I know what I'm talking about"
@module79l28
@module79l28 2 сағат бұрын
Everyone is entitled to an opinion but that doesn't mean they're right.
@thefirst9500
@thefirst9500 2 сағат бұрын
It's either kindergarten insults ("you're jelly") or trying to deviate from the discussion with specious "logic" (what about music videos; he uses backing vocals; etc.). Not to mention the condescension, using religion. Thankfully it doesn't even seem to register with Fil, lol.
@markmorris8532
@markmorris8532 2 сағат бұрын
​@@module79l28 Like they say... "You're entitled to your own opinions, but you're not entitled to 'your own' facts"
@module79l28
@module79l28 2 сағат бұрын
@@markmorris8532 - Or that.
@mjones6983
@mjones6983 4 сағат бұрын
I was a full-time musician for 30 years; the people who think they are experts, but actually don’t know squat never cease to amaze me. Keep up the stellar work Fil you’re awesome!!
@chuckm4540
@chuckm4540 4 сағат бұрын
Thank you Fil for being honest and truthful. No shame in that, keep up the good work mate!
@jeffersoncosgrove1910
@jeffersoncosgrove1910 4 сағат бұрын
Milli Vanilli's agent and producer claimed others were lying and jealous about them as well. But the truth came out in the end.
@HumbleTrader001
@HumbleTrader001 4 сағат бұрын
And Bernie Madoff claimed he was a legit fund manager as well. Same with Sam Bankman Fried.
@johnbriggs3916
@johnbriggs3916 3 сағат бұрын
Well, it was the producer doing the singing 😉
@johndrx165
@johndrx165 4 сағат бұрын
I am sorry to see you are going through this. People will believe anything, which is super dangerous with all the AI and digital manipulation that is going on.
@rickgrebenikpuggles56
@rickgrebenikpuggles56 4 сағат бұрын
Yes, indeed,
@oldermusiclover
@oldermusiclover 4 сағат бұрын
people always hate the fact that those they really admire have feet of clay, it is hard to turn loose of an image you have of some one
@siberianhusky5874
@siberianhusky5874 3 сағат бұрын
You're sorry to see him going through that??!! He's getting moneymaking content out of it, save your sympathies for people who eat uncooked chicken and then suffer from explosive diarrhea.
@rickgrebenikpuggles56
@rickgrebenikpuggles56 3 сағат бұрын
@@siberianhusky5874 your mad cuz he exposed the facts
@siberianhusky5874
@siberianhusky5874 3 сағат бұрын
@@rickgrebenikpuggles56 Pal, I'm on his side. I'm just saying the first comment is incredibly dumb.
@Inisfad
@Inisfad 4 сағат бұрын
Wow…isn’t this amazing that Ken’s voice hasn’t changed in 34 years!! Truly a miracle….lol. I’ve learned so much, watching these videos. Thanks, Fil!
@hourenschaiss2
@hourenschaiss2 3 сағат бұрын
Don't worry about that person who unsubscribed. I've been watching from the shadows for a while....today is the day I subscribe.
@bh-rl9xs
@bh-rl9xs 2 сағат бұрын
Ditto
@stevetournay6103
@stevetournay6103 Сағат бұрын
Yep. Saying again, Fil will gain more subs than he loses. Truth is becoming a hot commodity...
@geoffsmith1479
@geoffsmith1479 16 минут бұрын
Thank god I'm not the only one. I subbed after watching this one too, having been watching the channel for a while casually. Partly as a middle finger to the commenter who said they unsubbed, but mostly because Fil is providing valuable, entertaining and well-considered content
@Birdbobtv
@Birdbobtv 4 сағат бұрын
I stand with Fil 🖤
@Tvianne
@Tvianne 3 сағат бұрын
me too 😃
@LegendLength
@LegendLength 27 минут бұрын
Phil is shameful, i stand with Ken Tampon
@codygranrud6212
@codygranrud6212 4 сағат бұрын
Never be fake. Always be true.
@kurtzwar729
@kurtzwar729 4 сағат бұрын
No singer can exactly reproduce a song. Ever. All jazz singers know this. No reason to. Creative freedom is the target. Fil is shining a bright light on singer's FRAUD. Thanks Fil.
@morbidmanmusic
@morbidmanmusic 46 минут бұрын
All singers know it if they're good. Nothing to do with jazz.
@quazink
@quazink 3 сағат бұрын
Fil you absolutely nailed it when you said, "it's not that my video is negative, you're seeing what ever I'm explaining as negative". You're correct, it's their subjective opinion of what you're explaining. As you said you can't tell a person how to think, their free to think what ever they want. I've been watching your videos for years and you have never bashed anyone in your analysis videos. All you can do Fil, (and all you've ever done) is provide us with the hard data as proof of what we're hearing. The software you use doesn't lie. It's a shame some people continue to deny the truth. I don't know what to say except at this point, I don't think there's anything you could do or say to get the deniers to, "see the light."
@GlennShepMusic
@GlennShepMusic 4 сағат бұрын
You're 100% correct, Fil. The facts are there and those of us with sound engineering training can spot it a mile off, both with the waveforms and even without. People's feelings are irrelevant - honesty and facts, not feelings are all that matter here
@Yesica1993
@Yesica1993 4 сағат бұрын
That one at 15:41 really angered me. A "true servant of God" wouldn't be so blatantly LYING. I'm so sick of this stuff. Thanks for all you do, Fil! You always back up what you say with the facts. If people choose to ignore them that's on them. Please never stop exposing these liars!
@HumbleTrader001
@HumbleTrader001 4 сағат бұрын
For such a man of faith, KT apparently lacks faith in his own ability to sing the high parts live without miming.
@slatskatya
@slatskatya 4 сағат бұрын
Agree and besides uses godly threats. I am Christian but despise ppl that use God's name to threat others like that dude did. Fil is correct 💯 and the other guy is a pharisee (talking about the guy that commented )
@MrJdsenior
@MrJdsenior 3 сағат бұрын
@@slatskatya Yup, I was a Christian once, and seem to remember a few things about pointing out the splinter in another's eye while ignoring the log in your own. and 'judge not, lest ye be judged'. There are about 100 others that apply. It is strange now, to not be religious, and know far more about the teachings in the bible than most of these bible thumpers. The real and most basic premise, with regard to human interaction, is to love your fellow man, which is precisely the opposite of what they do, apparently. I don't buy the hocus pocus in the bible anymore, but the REAL Earthly basic premise of Christianity is kind of unassailable, and it is most definitely not hate, exclusion, belittling, judging, yada, yada. I hear a preacher once say that if Christians acted a little more saved, maybe people who aren't Christians might be more interested. I concur. And yes, I've known both kinds, some who walk the walk far better than I ever have.
@johnmorgan7947
@johnmorgan7947 3 сағат бұрын
​@MrJdsenior 😢 I'm very sorry you said ONCE was a Christian!!! . My friend...were u saved in the 1st place..? . Ur a perfect example ..of .. What the N/T.. says.. . At the end times".. . There will be a great FALLING AWAY ".. . As for Jesus saying Do not JUDGE.. . Many people are CONFUSED . We're all CALLED to make RIGHTEOUS JUDGMENTS . ( example) . Would u want a pedo" .. working in the SCHOOL system? . Our APOSTLE is paul ...GRACE message . As for Jesus.. Do not judge ".. . JESUS was addressing a " Jewish ".. crowd. . Not the body of CHRIST.. ... ( believing " gentiles ) . Please Google. Matthew chapter 27v27.. Proof!!!. . God loves you VERY MUCH.!❤ . ( btw..if you were in a calvinist church ...".. It's BETTER.. to Read.. at home Sunday a.m.)😊 🙏🏼
@1msbucket
@1msbucket 3 сағат бұрын
As a believer, I'm ashamed of that kind of talk.
@DavidWilson_mfx
@DavidWilson_mfx 4 сағат бұрын
You are doing the music industry a service, and a service to us, its listeners. Please don't stop.
@HumbleTrader001
@HumbleTrader001 4 сағат бұрын
Yes, he is doing a service for honest musicians that actually don't fake live performances.
@GeorgeGanesh
@GeorgeGanesh 4 сағат бұрын
Utterly embarrassing. A vocal coach at 60 years old lipsyncing to vocals he recorded back when he was in his late 20s. Did he really think nobody would ever notice that? 😂
@joerenner8334
@joerenner8334 3 сағат бұрын
He just did the high parts. I'm 59. No way I could hit notes from my 20s. No one can. Doesn't make it right.
@Spo-Dee-O-Dee
@Spo-Dee-O-Dee 2 сағат бұрын
@@joerenner8334 65 is about the upper limit for a tenor to keep his high notes if he keeps his voice in shape.
@soddof7972
@soddof7972 2 сағат бұрын
​@@joerenner8334 that could well be the reasoning.
@Fractalchemystical
@Fractalchemystical Сағат бұрын
In Fil's last video on this topic I could tell that Tamplin wasn't playing the guitar and was just pretending to. Fil pointed it out but I could already tell anyway. Maybe it's because I've been playing guitar a long time and watch a lot of guitar videos that I could see it easily, I don't know, but it just looked so obvious to me that he wasn't even hitting the strings with his supposedly strumming hand. I'm surprised it would even fool anyone. I just find Ken Tamplin quite shameless and lacking integrity for trying to deceive people like this.
@wilsonbrownofficial2828
@wilsonbrownofficial2828 Сағат бұрын
@@joerenner8334I’m 56 and can reach the A above high C (A5?) and I’m a natural baritone. I don’t dispute that Ken has been deceptive in what he’s portrayed, but he IS a good vocal coach . Just a shame he’s done what he did.
@penninecounties3322
@penninecounties3322 4 сағат бұрын
So sorry Fil that you've had to go through this mess.
@adamgranger56
@adamgranger56 3 сағат бұрын
75- year old lifetime pro here. CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH, FIL!!!
@silverclive
@silverclive 4 сағат бұрын
Fil, your integrity is unquestionable. Continue with the very informative work that you do! This is a really great channel.
@user-ph6yh4hs9z
@user-ph6yh4hs9z 4 сағат бұрын
Thank you Fil,for your honest technical analysis. It is crystal clear no human voice can repeat identically ever! You are so calm and fact driven- you always manage to keep your head after terrible name calling messages. You have earned my respect and the respect of many more for your objective data driven PROOF in the face of rude belligerent comments. SUBSCRIBED‼️🎉😊
@Tvianne
@Tvianne 3 сағат бұрын
welcome! 🥳🎉🍰🍾
@user-ph6yh4hs9z
@user-ph6yh4hs9z 2 сағат бұрын
@@Tvianne Thanks!😊
@paulrupe2176
@paulrupe2176 3 сағат бұрын
I'm a Christian and you are speaking truth. Just because someone is a Christian doesn't mean he's perfect he's a human being and far from perfect Just like everyone. Some people don't understand the difference between objective and subjective. Keep up the good work!!! The truth shall set you free...
@Lilah1754
@Lilah1754 3 сағат бұрын
Thank you for saying that.
@johnbriggs3916
@johnbriggs3916 3 сағат бұрын
In America today it means the opposite.
@foreighteen7797
@foreighteen7797 2 сағат бұрын
It's even more embarrassing to be a "true servant of God" while also being a fraud, than to simply be a fraud. It paints a picture of hypocrisy and how far the person in question has fallen short of the moral standard to which he claims to subscribe.
@MisterTee
@MisterTee Сағат бұрын
If some one starts with ‘I’m a Christian’ to anything you should doubt them.
@hockeyhacker5
@hockeyhacker5 Сағат бұрын
@@MisterTee Like @paulrupe2176 saying Fil is speaking truth?
@susanthompson8962
@susanthompson8962 4 сағат бұрын
As we used to say, "Consider the source, and ignore the remarks." They are just ignorant.
@bk4062
@bk4062 4 сағат бұрын
Absolutely! 😄
@arnewoodman
@arnewoodman 4 сағат бұрын
All credit and kudos to you Fil, there must be so much pressure to back down and just toe the line. Hope it doesn't get to be a burden, when huge amounts of money are at stake people can get very nasty.
@SuziQ.
@SuziQ. 3 сағат бұрын
If outing Don Henley for lip syncing didn’t daunt Fil, no lying, puffed up “vocal coach” can.
@arnewoodman
@arnewoodman 2 сағат бұрын
@@SuziQ. You never know when you're going to tread on the rattlesnake. I have personal experience - from calling out a blatant fraud by a 'big name' in the design business, against a mutual client. Not only did the 'big name' threaten legal action, but our (mutual) client also threatened me, because they did not like to admit being so easily duped. This wasn't digital files and analytic software - the evidence was literally cast in metal and printed in catalogues.
@chadwickpfeiffer8399
@chadwickpfeiffer8399 2 сағат бұрын
I've watched your videos for years because of your genuine enthusiasm and respect for great artists of all genres. You are providing a real service with your analysis videos by presenting objective data that doesn't lie. Anyone who attributes your comments to ego, vanity or malice just isn't paying attention. You are one of the most positive people on KZbin and I hope you keep doing your thing for many, many years. Thank you Fil.
@DianeAvila-bv4fc
@DianeAvila-bv4fc 4 сағат бұрын
100% supporter of this channel and will continue to be a subscriber.
@_whatsername1911
@_whatsername1911 4 сағат бұрын
You have thousands and thousands of people who adore you and thank you. Ignore the few who don't. Go out for a beer or coffee or whatever instead. Give yourself a break.
@stevetournay6103
@stevetournay6103 Сағат бұрын
Not entirely joking: karaoke. I'm there right now. It is absolutely the best of medicine. And ain't no Autotune here either...
@_whatsername1911
@_whatsername1911 Сағат бұрын
@@stevetournay6103 Omg. Yes! 😂 I'm a female and my range can comfortably go pretty low. I love singing Mac the Knife
@moonbathing2002
@moonbathing2002 4 сағат бұрын
Aww bless you mate, the reason I subscribed is because you have no malice or agenda other than to educate with facts.
@SuziQ.
@SuziQ. 3 сағат бұрын
He’s also a talented guitarist. Check out the Fil Jams at the end of his livestreams. They’re backing tracks he’s never heard before, and plays guitar to. Last Saturday’s was a good one (sometimes the track that gets picked is meh, yet Fil still saves them with his playing).
@richardmaguire9536
@richardmaguire9536 3 сағат бұрын
Keep being honest Fil. It is much appreciated.
@stephengibbons287
@stephengibbons287 4 сағат бұрын
Youve always been the most professional, accurate and honest analyst Fil. no doubt about your credentials at all.
@marcies3789
@marcies3789 4 сағат бұрын
I thought Ken Tamplin was obnoxious before I knew he was a fraud. shake my damn head
@davidsonchris737
@davidsonchris737 2 сағат бұрын
❤ Yes I thought the same thing when I 1st Watched him, arrogant & Ego...
@HillLeeHill
@HillLeeHill 4 сағат бұрын
Instead of people dealing with the hurt from the betrayal they are feeling when they find out that their beloved has lied to them they are taking it out on you. You keep doing these analysis, no matter what!!
@bogrot69
@bogrot69 3 сағат бұрын
Very cult like behavior
@HillLeeHill
@HillLeeHill 3 сағат бұрын
@@bogrot69 Right!!! It's just people that never learned how to deal with big feelings!
@HumbleTrader001
@HumbleTrader001 4 сағат бұрын
Thank you for your excellent work! It even appears that KT has actually been miming since 1989. (when KT was in his mid 20s) Marc Ajax proved (in Marc's recent YT video) that KT's live performance with Shout at Cornerstone in 1989 (also found on YT) involved the use of pre-recorded studio album tracks that KT mimed to. It appears that KT has been miming in front of live audiences since his mid 20s.
@Rkbmomma
@Rkbmomma 4 сағат бұрын
Hmm, same year as the Milli Vanilli lip synch debacle🤔
@HumbleTrader001
@HumbleTrader001 4 сағат бұрын
@@Rkbmomma Interesting coincidence. The Lord works in mysterious ways. LOL
@thefirst9500
@thefirst9500 Сағат бұрын
It sounds like his actual real job is being a professional pretender more than a vocal coach, lol.
@stevetournay6103
@stevetournay6103 Сағат бұрын
Ah. So...well...they're right then. His vocals HAVEN'T changed in all those years...they've been canned the whole time!
@raygunsforronnie847
@raygunsforronnie847 3 сағат бұрын
I have 45 years in live audio, 2/3 of that working with "artists you've heard of". I'm still working and I signed NDAs so I won't mention names, but these self-annointed golden ears comments Fil featured in this video have no f'in clue about how many of their favorite artists, bands, and performers make use of playback in performances. One band, a quartet, had 96 inputs - half from live sources on the stage and the other 48 were from ProTools or Ableton. The band got the live inputs to their IEMs and the audience heard 98% tracks. Many rappers are lip-syncing, too. The mics are hot so the hype and shoutouts are real, but most of the actual "song" is either the studio vocal or an edit of the studio vocal with some live components; soloing up the live mics in headphones, I can hear the performers moving, breathing, and maybe rapping along at a *very* low level until a shout out comes along. A popular male country singer has a bad alcohol habit and can't utter a coherent sentence by the time he's on stage but his "sung" vocals are flawless; is it magic or an illusion? Another singer who has been on one of the contest TV shows lip syncs the last half (more or less) of his live show for the same reason - he's getting intoxicated on stage and develops both pitch and timing problems. There are vocal tuning plug ins for digital mixing consoles that will work fast enough to be used live, and one of the most popular English-speaking performers has it applied to all non-spoken parts of the vocal performance, along with a dynamics and EQ processing chain that would have been low/mid-five figure$ back when everything was separate analog boxes. Ultimately I work for the artist or someone they have hired for technical and artistic supervision. With some I get lots of artistic direction and discretion, with others there is lots of direction and little room to make changes of any sort (kind of like in theatre) after the tour starts. Some performers seem comforted by the technologies, some need the technologies to make them acceptable, live, others eschew most of it. My personal choice to start out organically and hear what the band or artist is actually doing, maybe apply a little reverb to put some air around it, and hear where their performance of that song, that day, takes us. I like the old ways of letting the art and magic happen on stage, and that my primary job is to share those things to everyone who showed up, artist-willing.
@carlsimons6616
@carlsimons6616 3 сағат бұрын
You're ruffling a lot of feathers, and im here for it. I've been playing for 35+ years, and this practice of "singing" to pre-recorded tracks so they can pretend they can still hit "that" note, is one that needs to end, especially with the "heritage" acts who's fans wouldnt even be upset by a few lowered notes from a guy in his 50s-70s. Thank you for all you are doing, and since you lost a sub, you have gained one from me!! CHEERS!!
@trfatman
@trfatman Сағат бұрын
I can't say why Ken Tamplin chooses to use recorded vocals for live performances, but I don't think it's because he can't hit the notes. Too many times in the middle of talking about a particular line of a song in one of his videos, Ken has sung the line raw and belted a G5 or A5 no sweat. So it beats me why he would choose to use recorded vocals. Stamina? He does like to move around on stage and you and I both know that can affect your vocal performance. You were just running around while playing the guitar solo and now you have to glissando up to an A5? I'm just guessing.
@JdeBP
@JdeBP Сағат бұрын
I strongly suspect that Fil did not really lose a subscriber, and that rather the account was never a subscriber in the first place.
@carlsimons6616
@carlsimons6616 40 минут бұрын
@JdeBP yeah, I could see that. Using the "loss" in an attempt to shame him.
@josuastangl7140
@josuastangl7140 38 минут бұрын
@@trfatman probably stamina and over all insecurity due to the extra pressure as lots of people know him as a vocal coach. Sad really, because he is actually a good singer, no doubt.
@slatskatya
@slatskatya 4 сағат бұрын
Love watching your channel and you aren't envious at all. Nowaday you can't be objective, factual because ppl accuse you of being hateful, envious and more. Keep up the good work Fil, Cheers from Ecuador(South America)
@jgcaesar4
@jgcaesar4 4 сағат бұрын
I just subscribed. I appreciate your honesty, Fil.
@MrJdsenior
@MrJdsenior 3 сағат бұрын
ON NO!!! You just negated her diss. :-) You, and probably about a thousand others.
@SuziQ.
@SuziQ. 2 сағат бұрын
@@MrJdsenior, Fil’s up from 415k on Tuesday to 416k today. 🎉
@bogrot69
@bogrot69 4 сағат бұрын
You monster Fil!🤣❤ I think Ken is making all the negative comments 🤣 You're always a class act mate!
@bojang6475
@bojang6475 4 сағат бұрын
Fil please keep doing your analysis of singers, you’re just being honest.
@tammydoolittle6054
@tammydoolittle6054 4 сағат бұрын
Thank you kindly, Fil, for another excellent analysis video! You are a man of integrity, and you always show us proof that what you're explaining to us is so. You're doing an incredible job, so don't change for no one. Rock!
@UncleDansVintageVinyl
@UncleDansVintageVinyl 4 сағат бұрын
Man, you are absolutely the best! You are doing superb work, and I know that a bunch of us appreciate it! We're behind you, man! And let me note, too, that the hit dog barks.
@mpineda9909
@mpineda9909 4 сағат бұрын
You don't need to be an expert to understand exactly what you're talking about. Those critics are in denial. Just ignore them. Thanks for your video! 💜&☮️ from Spain
@markhutt9589
@markhutt9589 4 сағат бұрын
Thanks for keeping it real! People don’t want to hear the truth, they want to hear you say what they believe. Keep doing what you do!
@goblinqueen4991
@goblinqueen4991 4 сағат бұрын
Hang in there, Fil, and keep on doing what you do. We believe in you and appreciate your honesty. I've learned a lot about music by watching you (and I just like to listen, not sing or play an instrument) and have deepened my appreciation for real music.
@M2Singing
@M2Singing 4 сағат бұрын
I wouldn’t worry about it. The hate comments are probably from Ken himself on one of his many fake accounts. I proved this on my latest vid 🔥 keep spreading actual truth, Fil
@wingsofpegasus
@wingsofpegasus 4 сағат бұрын
It's a shame they don't understand, but now with the 4K data added hopefully they'll see and appreciate all 3 pre-recorded vocals are from 1990.
@M2Singing
@M2Singing 4 сағат бұрын
@@wingsofpegasusYup. Dude didn’t even bother to create a new lipsyncing track. Just lazy. Or assumes everyone is stupid. I’m leaning towards the second after his responses. Just awful.
@GeorgeGanesh
@GeorgeGanesh 4 сағат бұрын
​@M2Singing I think you're 100% correct. It is honestly quite predatory, Ken is taking advantage of people who are too new to singing to recognize his fakery and manipulation. Then he actively censors other creators to keep his audience ignorant. Very cult-ish vibes.
@bogrot69
@bogrot69 4 сағат бұрын
That's what I thought 😂
@loriematthews6418
@loriematthews6418 2 сағат бұрын
@@wingsofpegasus 🙋🏻💕
@angrysirok
@angrysirok 3 сағат бұрын
I believe you Fil! You speak the truth, and you’re never malicious. Please keep doing these analysis videos!
@annac3514
@annac3514 4 сағат бұрын
Keep up the good work, Fil!! So many people are immune to facts. We have a lot of cult members in the United States and they absolutely refuse to believe anything that doesn't align with their beliefs.
@lesmoody2444
@lesmoody2444 4 сағат бұрын
Yeah, exactly like all those WOKE idiots: "Agree with me, or disappear!"
@bk4062
@bk4062 4 сағат бұрын
Hey Pil, why in the hell can't ugly, hateful people get a life? I truly enjoy your channel & your honesty and kindness. We need to be aware that there are good people here & they do good things. So Pil keep doing you, you are an inspiration to learn from & enjoy. Though I'm not a musician, I have loved music since early childhood. In fact, music is where my heart is. So thank You Pil, LOL BK😁☀🎶🎶🎶
@ChrisLawton66
@ChrisLawton66 4 сағат бұрын
Actual proof won't convince some people these days. They'll simply say that you're manipulating things.
@CowmanUK
@CowmanUK 3 сағат бұрын
The difference between Fil and those that say such things, as with all good science, is you can conduct the same experiments yourself and see the same evidence, and should come to the same conclusions.
@ChrisLawton66
@ChrisLawton66 3 сағат бұрын
@@CowmanUK If we have the right equipment, yes. Most of us do not.
@MrJdsenior
@MrJdsenior 3 сағат бұрын
@@ChrisLawton66 I imagine probably all that is necessary is some readily available SW. I woundn't even be surprised if there are open source, free versions, if you care.
@ChrisLawton66
@ChrisLawton66 3 сағат бұрын
@@MrJdsenior Not something I'm looking to do, but thanks for your thoughts.
@TruthSurge
@TruthSurge 3 сағат бұрын
What you're trying to show is that each vocal performance (real ones) will be UNIQUE and NEVER matching even on held sustained notes no matter HOW GOOD a singer is. No 2 performances will line up down to the tiny nuances that are lining up in this video. No one could ever even get the TIMING of their words to line up, much less the MAIN pitches and even much less the TINY pitch variations in their vibrato. It's even more diverse than a fingerprint. It'd be like thinking a monkey could randomly type out even the first SENTENCE of War and Peace, given 1000 years of randomly banging on a typewriter. It's just never going to happen.
@betagombar9022
@betagombar9022 4 сағат бұрын
Hi Fil, you reading out those comments had me chuckling, thanks for getting my weekend off to fantastic start 😂 Keep up the great and truthful work 👍
@Terri_MacKay
@Terri_MacKay 4 сағат бұрын
I know it was a serious video, but the comments did give me some good chuckles too. 😂😂
@bk4062
@bk4062 4 сағат бұрын
Hey, another George Michael Fan! 🕯😇🥰🎶🎶🎶 Have you seen Pil's analyses of George? Awesome!
@marraharris6080
@marraharris6080 4 сағат бұрын
Folks today are in full-blown denial mode about most things. It is amazing. Keep doing what you do, most of us greatly appreciate you and your work! ❤
@OldBenOne
@OldBenOne 4 сағат бұрын
So you're not aware that the Earth is flat? :)
@Rkbmomma
@Rkbmomma 4 сағат бұрын
We are in a world of hurt with so many gullible/blinders on people.🙄
@MrJdsenior
@MrJdsenior 3 сағат бұрын
People who think opinions override facts are in for a hard existence. They run rampant on YT. For grins, I used to go to flat Earth and 'we didn't go to the moon', and 'aliens among us' sorts of channels and troll the hell out of them. My bad, but it was HILARIOUS at times. You absolutely would think I was making stuff up that I saw them right, if I recounted it here. Some people are industrial strength stupid!!!
@marraharris6080
@marraharris6080 3 сағат бұрын
@@OldBenOne 🤣🤣🤣🙄
@whogoes
@whogoes Сағат бұрын
@@MrJdsenior INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH STUPID!!!! Good one! It appears Fil is getting some awful comments from some industrial strength stupid people! Rock on, Fil !!!!! You have taught me a lot about music!
@MusicFromTheOutside
@MusicFromTheOutside 3 сағат бұрын
I never watched your channel until today when I saw your first Ken Tamplin video, so when I say that I agree with you and commend your work, I mean it as objectively as possible. I said in my earlier comment that I benefited from KTVA, so I'm not some clueless hater. I've also sung professionally, and produced music for almost 30 years, so I understand the technicalities and can confirm that everything you've said is correct. Having two vocal tracks, 20 years apart, exactly in phase with each other is next to impossible, in my opinion.
@johnbriggs3916
@johnbriggs3916 3 сағат бұрын
Seriously, you ought to question everything you learned from him, as it may have been actually harmful.
@ivyswands7289
@ivyswands7289 4 сағат бұрын
The truth is never shameful! Thank you, Fil!
@MrJdsenior
@MrJdsenior 3 сағат бұрын
I don't know, I've seen a few people shamed all to you know where by the truth. But the truth itself, no, that is as just as it gets.
@AlanTov
@AlanTov 2 сағат бұрын
We live in a world of cults where followers leave behind any ethics, objectivity or common sense. Embarrassing
@albanana683
@albanana683 2 сағат бұрын
Actually I would be quite happy to join the Cult of Fil.
@stevetournay6103
@stevetournay6103 Сағат бұрын
Embarrassing? Absolutely bloody terrifying...
@stevetournay6103
@stevetournay6103 Сағат бұрын
​@@albanana683Heh. Fil wouldn't start one...
@loriematthews6418
@loriematthews6418 3 сағат бұрын
The ignorance is OFF the charts anymore... You're doing a great job at describing these things! Thank you FIL!🌷
@perseapolaris9015
@perseapolaris9015 4 сағат бұрын
Thank you Fil..🤟💖 for your tenacious work.!!! 👍🎖️
@lori282smith2
@lori282smith2 4 сағат бұрын
Oh my!! Not a musical bone in my body and I can understand exactly what you are explaining to us. Obviously missing the point on purpose
@lindadegraaf9297
@lindadegraaf9297 4 сағат бұрын
This truly bothers me-you certainly don't deserve it, Fil...keep your head up, and look at it this way, there are more than a third of a million people out here who believe you, and know the TRUTH!!
@MrJdsenior
@MrJdsenior 3 сағат бұрын
It's not bothering him, he's making further videos off of them.
@SuziQ.
@SuziQ. 2 сағат бұрын
⁠@@MrJdsenior, He makes videos by request. The trolls do bother him. 😢
@MouseInTheMirror
@MouseInTheMirror 4 сағат бұрын
There is one thing you said here that caught my attention. I actually do assume that some type of mimng/lipsynching/playback or other "trickery" is going on at just about any live show these days especially the big tours. What's more is that even though technology has changed I don't remember this being any different in the 80's or 90's. It's definitely more prevalent in certain genres, but my perception is that it's way more widespread than most people think, and is almost a bit of an industry "dirty little secret". This isn't a judgement on my part, I've used sequences and pre recorded backing vocals plenty myself. I'm just wondering... how many "regular folks" would even realize this was thing without someone like you being able to say: actually... this is what it is. Love your stuff, man!
@polinazdramatazidia5158
@polinazdramatazidia5158 3 сағат бұрын
Fil, you are honest and don't let these buffoons frustrate you. Keep up your great service. The world is sick of fake everything, period! YOU ARE NOT FAKE, BRO! You're the best. The real deal.
@cindi1313
@cindi1313 4 сағат бұрын
I think "claiming" to be professionals is the important distinction. They can claim to be aliens, doesn't make it true. 😂Very telling that certain people try to say that it is shameful to just tell the truth, rather than being shameful to actually be a fraud. I think that tells you a lot about that person.
@geirmyrvagnes8718
@geirmyrvagnes8718 3 сағат бұрын
As an alien, I agree fully. 👽
@gspianoguitar4369
@gspianoguitar4369 3 сағат бұрын
Yes shame on you Fil! For having good ears, an analytical mind and common decent honesty...and the balls to go with it! Don't change mate
@Evolved-
@Evolved- 4 сағат бұрын
Fil is completely objective and gets vilified for it. What a world.
@MrJdsenior
@MrJdsenior 3 сағат бұрын
SOP for at least half the human race, actually. And you can take that from either side you wish. :-)
@tmcarter3
@tmcarter3 3 сағат бұрын
Fil, don't ever apologize for your work... Keeping it real is a lost art in the world we find ourselves in today...
@Phodis
@Phodis 4 сағат бұрын
Keep up the great work. You can't please everyone with the truth.
@LeeHill66
@LeeHill66 3 сағат бұрын
Lean went from saying that he's not lip syncing to defending him for lip syncing. It's a crazy world we live in. Truthful facts are always best!
@stevetournay6103
@stevetournay6103 Сағат бұрын
As opposed to deceptive facts? Oi...
@LeeHill66
@LeeHill66 31 минут бұрын
@@stevetournay6103 As I stated, it's a crazy world we live in where people make up their own facts.
@GoToExtremes
@GoToExtremes 3 сағат бұрын
As a recording studio sound engineer, a live sound engineer and a musician & singer who has been performing since 1985. I don't need software to see a recording and know when someone is lip syncing, I can hear it. No two live performances are alike.
@charlesmontgomery7002
@charlesmontgomery7002 4 сағат бұрын
Love how you respond to the criticisms so calmly, objectively (sp?) and factually
@kerrythomas6220
@kerrythomas6220 2 сағат бұрын
Because he always speaks the truth!
@maxbackstrom
@maxbackstrom 3 сағат бұрын
Are there more people like you, on KZbin? This is very educational. I know more than many other more musically skilled persons, because of you! I sometimes pitchcorrect at some notes when I'm too far from the pitch I want to nail. And I'm honest about it, no secrets or lies needed.
@SteveRyzuk
@SteveRyzuk 4 сағат бұрын
Made a similar comment in your last video: I enjoy KT's music, and have for a long time! It seems to me, Fil, that you are absolutely correct in your analysis. As much as it sucks to see it be about a musician I admire, it is still the truth. And thank you for bringing it.
@fleshtonegolem
@fleshtonegolem 4 сағат бұрын
you could 1000 takes with the intention of replicating it and you would NEVER get that close. It's NOT possible to do this with DIFFERENT takes.
@ptournas
@ptournas 2 сағат бұрын
Pretty funny how they can tell you there's nothing wrong with dubbing in a live performance, yet it's hateful and shameful to acknowledge it.
@TheBrettWilson
@TheBrettWilson Сағат бұрын
Great comment 👍
@thebackstagewatcher7364
@thebackstagewatcher7364 4 сағат бұрын
Great Work, Fil! Thank You so much!!
@Debbie-u6q
@Debbie-u6q 4 сағат бұрын
Good on you, standing up for your opinions 👏
@sloebone7399
@sloebone7399 4 сағат бұрын
And standing up for the facts!
@zephyrbear
@zephyrbear 4 сағат бұрын
It's not just an opinion, he has shown actual proof that Ken Tamplin is miming to something he recorded 34 years ago! It is FACT!
@Debbie-u6q
@Debbie-u6q 3 сағат бұрын
@@zephyrbear why don't you go and try some mindful breathing....it was a positive comment I made, not requiring a response....particularly in CAPITALS
@stevetournay6103
@stevetournay6103 Сағат бұрын
​@@Debbie-u6qIt's a valid point, though: these are not solely Fil's opinions, he's shown them to be fact.
@benbeck1
@benbeck1 4 сағат бұрын
Great explanation. Love your ability to explain things clearly.
@1BJM
@1BJM 4 сағат бұрын
Always appreciate your objective analysis! ❤
@garyking4032
@garyking4032 4 сағат бұрын
Well done Fil, conclusive, irrefutable evidence of this fraud.
@AlanTov
@AlanTov 3 сағат бұрын
Fil this is a great Channel doing a real service. Keep up the great work!
@VideoFunForAll
@VideoFunForAll 4 сағат бұрын
So people do not look for truth, they look for something else. That's the shame.
@geirmyrvagnes8718
@geirmyrvagnes8718 3 сағат бұрын
People want confirmation of what they believe. It feels so, so nice... 😄
@Angel-rq3pi
@Angel-rq3pi 4 сағат бұрын
Ken doesn't lip synch.... except when he does 😂
@MrJdsenior
@MrJdsenior 3 сағат бұрын
Yes, which is obviously not the definition of lip syncing. Fil stands corrected. ;-/
@rocknrollrich1
@rocknrollrich1 46 минут бұрын
Unfortunately, people would rather believe a lie than believe they are wrong.
@localbod
@localbod 3 сағат бұрын
Fil, keep on producing your quality content. You have to allow for people being willfully ignorant or just plain thick. It is literally impossible to reproduce the same waveform without either using a sample of that waveform or just copy and pasting it. If a live audio waveform is the same as the recorded waveform, the artist is miming. Period.
@bradwilliams7145
@bradwilliams7145 3 сағат бұрын
You are the best FIL! You are doing us music lovers a great service. It's simple, by request, we hire you to use your modern technology to expose the cheaters. Whoever is left from my music era, (early 60s-mid 90s rock/metal) will keep their fans respect if they can still sound decent by playing naturally, and know when it's time to go out on a good note. Thanks again! 🎵 🎸✌🏽
@2009mysha
@2009mysha 2 сағат бұрын
416k of us cannot be wrong. Morals and integrity is what we all aspire to live to.
@stevetournay6103
@stevetournay6103 Сағат бұрын
Well...we aren't wrong in this case, no...but a helluva lot more than 416k people CAN be wrong. History proves that.
@user-vh5gf6ui2o
@user-vh5gf6ui2o 3 сағат бұрын
There's never a wrong time to do the right thing.
@Ghostdogsurvivalist
@Ghostdogsurvivalist 4 сағат бұрын
Love your channel. It's really about honesty. It's ok if it's not live "most super bowls for instance" as long as you are honest.
@glang4657
@glang4657 2 сағат бұрын
I went back and watched the video. You are 100% correct. I’m not a vocal coach nor a professional musician. I could even tell the difference. Keep doing what you’re doing!
@SHNgFormosa
@SHNgFormosa 3 сағат бұрын
Having double-standard is kind of a human nature with which people preserve the integrity of the worlds they perceive. Hence you are actually fighting with human nature. This fight is hard, but you have done very well. I fully support your objective analysis and honest comments. Keep fighting, never surrender!
@SuperStrik9
@SuperStrik9 4 сағат бұрын
Fil, the haters can't handle the truth. It's why they're lashing out. On a side note Liar is an incredible Queen song.
@dannyestes832
@dannyestes832 3 сағат бұрын
Don't let the haters get you down. If they can't understand the science of what you post you will never get thru their thick skull.
@HermesNinja
@HermesNinja 4 сағат бұрын
It’s shocking that anyone could mistake your objective analysis for slander. Your analysis isn’t defamatory or shameful. It is simply data-driven scrutiny, leading to incontrovertible factual results presented with no bias, passion or prejudice.
@CowmanUK
@CowmanUK 3 сағат бұрын
Very well said.
@MrJdsenior
@MrJdsenior 3 сағат бұрын
Seems like slanderous objective analysis to me. I know I felt objectively slandered.
@HermesNinja
@HermesNinja 3 сағат бұрын
@@MrJdsenior 😁
Is THIS vocal coach MIMING? LIVE?!!
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