Taylor Swift's $2 Billion tour revenue... for miming?

[@bonwatcher]

It's not hate or jealousy, it's just fact that vocal live performances can't be replicated pitch-wise to the millisecond like this unless it's the exact same recorded audio. I hope her fans understand what Fil is saying and she certainly isn't be the first to do it, but she has made the most money from it by far.

[@BrenQ99]

Fans? They are victims of a Con Woman.

[@ianbest7560]

@@BrenQ99​​⁠The young women have Swift, the lesser-educated people have Trump…you’d think they’d get along, with their love of con artists and all.

[@MostlyBuicks]

But WHY is it necessary to replicate the recording in the first place? I want a UNIQUE performance with every concert I have or ever will go to.

[@romirosta1917]

Nah, this video is weird and absurd and I hope Taylor’s team take a legal action of this “miss leading video”! P.S. Why didn’t you show us the acoustic LIVE Performances when it’s just Taylor Swift with her guitar and piano?

[@TheKnight1983]

​@romirosta1917 the software Fil Runs is available to the public. If your interested in truth, run her voice through the analysis software yourself. You might be surprised.

[@fab208athome]

I saw Kate Bush live in 1979 - there were two songs with a lot of dancing involved. An announcement was made before each song that due to the complexity of the choreography Kate would be miming. Integrity and honesty is long gone in the music biz.

[@mightyV444]

Yes, and I think in one of those two, 'Hammer Horror', she wasn't even miming but just dancing.

[@smoath]

That's fantastic. What an honourable artist. Shame on the liars.

[@dorothyfischer2649]

Thanyou for sharing this. First time I've heard of an artist being this honest & live. Love Kate ❤. Taylor is what it is.

[@Highlandherps]

Yeah, but if you're miming the whole show, you're gonna keep your mouth shut- except when the audio tracks are playing😂

[@workout3D]

If you are a singer and you can't dance and sing simultaneously, then don't dance. What the hell

[@harrisdupree3323]

Been an Audio Engineer AND musician for almost 30-years .Definitely the exact same audio. NEVER happens like that in a LIVE performance!

[@_anthex]

But..if she was singing to playback, say 70% to 30% live vocals in the mix, maybe the results would still show something similar right? I thought that was pretty accepted in the pop world these days. Who is really going for the vocal performance? They are going for the spectacle.

[@matthewgardner824]

lol are you kidding me? In the early 90's I worked in EMS backstage for a Cher concert. She was running about an hour late and the entire time they had a GUY dressed up as her on stage lip syncing. The dude looked exactly like her, it was an Italian guy. I saw him before and after her arrival, from makeup to exiting the stage.

[@karlhungus888]

@@matthewgardner824 i wonder if that footage ever found its way online. would be fun to see an italian dude pretending to be cher 😅

[@_anthex]

@@matthewgardner824 Epic 😂

[@Stafford-d8u]

Yeah, you’re right. I’ve been in the studio 1 million times. There’s not even the hint of it being a double tracked vocal. Everything is in sync. Everything is in pitch not one variable.

[@chrisl5156]

The most astonishing aspect of this video is to learn that there are actually people who don't think she is miming her performances.

[@Vanessa-ok3ys]

😂

[@CARPETMAN6666]

I'm almost 60 and for most of my life I played drums and sang bands. I knew in the first three seconds of her singing that it had to come out of a studio.

[@ABlueDahlia]

You see it everywhere, honestly.

[@rogl3W]

Delusional as f, or rather have a very bad set of ears

[@SoulforSale]

They probably think Ozzy sings all his stuff too

[@frankparish4687]

Im 72, and our generation would not go to a lip sync show period!!😂😂😂😂😂

[@RjBenjamin353]

That’s right sir.

[@Dmachine2000]

Joe Bonamassa just gave an interview where he was blasting miming at concerts. Paraphrasing, he said that the natural imperfections are what make a performance and that nothing is perfect. He works hard to get better all the time, not to be perfect. Humanity informs music and vice versa.

[@yabman1317]

Joe also said in another interview (I'm going from memory here) that he much preferred doing live shows instead of time he has to spend in the studio because he tends to keep trying to get it perfect in the studio, whereas when he plays live he just sends it and its out there forever, warts and all.

[@loribrown9204]

@@Dmachine2000 but Joe doesn’t move around on a stage the size of a football field

[@Dmachine2000]

@@loribrown9204 Might be a little awkward running around with a guitar strapped on. 🙂

[@jesper.ordrup]

​@@loribrown9204true. There's a huge difference between going to a show vs a concert. Hint: If there are dancers on stage it's probably a show

[@mozartsmate6358]

​@@loribrown9204 The difference being Joe Bonamassa is musically talented.....

[@donm3986]

Fil, if you play the track backwards, I think it says "too late, the money is in my account now".

[@Katerina9256]

😂

[@delboy9679]

Made me lol

[@cjcurcio]

LOL!!!!!

[@AremosiuR]

👏😄

[@maleahlock]

😂

[@catherinewhite8819]

Most memorable was when Queen always left the stage during the operatic section of Bohemian Rhapsody as they couldn’t play it live. They didn’t want to take credit for something they weren’t playing.

[@kimmomatikainen1843]

Nightwish lost their vocalist just before a gig. Backtrack was one of their option, but they said they can't do that. Two singers from another band stepped up and learned the songs as well as they could and sang from papers since they didn't have time to learn the lyrics. After that their second vocalist took over for the next gigs until the singer came back and got new singer soon after that. Not sure which one would have been better, but fans got a show and it was live. I don't really mind backtracks, but I think they should be open about it. Then people can really choose how much it matters. I am pretty sure that those shows would sell out anyway because of the show and atmosphere. Integrity is one of many virtues that are disappearing.

[@pjmuck]

I always hated when Queen did that. I would have preferred they had a choir do the parts instead, but I imagine that would have been costly to bring a choir on tour. But I've seen other bands use choirs on tour, hiring local choirs in the cities they're in.

[@darlahays2471]

Exactly. And a fun fact, the harmony at the beginning of the song, recorded was all his voice.

[@MistyRoseRocks]

Yesss! Exactly!

[@MistyRoseRocks]

​@@pjmuckIf I remember correctly, they would change costumes during it.

[@energyfromyourwing]

Just saw Cyndi Lauper live. She’s 71 & sings with her natural voice (Live!). So awesome!

[@whatcanidooo]

Omg did you see Trixie Mattel too I’m so jealous

[@energyfromyourwing]

yes! She was amazing!❤ Her positive energy and DJ mix hyped everyone up!

[@iamfelixthecat7233]

I never understood why she was outdistanced by her contemporary Madonna. Cyndi can SING. Madge, not so much.

[@Franeeky]

​@iamfelix😂😂😂😂thecat7233

[@jasonthunders6551]

Wow!!

[@anotherjoshua]

bands should be legally required to reveal whether or not what fans will be seeing is live or mimed.

[@cjcurcio]

I support that! We as consumers spend a lot of money on these concerts!

[@Drumsticksmcgee]

Paul McCartney has no voice left cause he actually sang live for over 50 years. Kudos Paul.

[@malva-yk2jg]

Should KZbinrs be legally required to tell us when they fail to mention that from the 46 songs set, some are fully live, some are fully mimed and most fall somewhere in between? Isn't that misleading? You now believe she never sings live.

[@nymsmacgregor7232]

I have no problems with the lead singer syncing, but back up vocals and music must be live and not Memorex. They have to say so, though.

[@johnd7564]

@@malva-yk2jg I now believe, based on this video, that a single Taylor Swift vocal was used four times, including three live shows. I have no opinion on whether she ever sings live, but I won't believe any assertion she NEVER mimes. I also don't hate Taylor Swift. My daughters love her. Unless she literally lies to the audience - which neither Fil nor I assert - I have no bone to pick. I love music. And I am a MAJOR fan of Taylor Swift's business acumen!!!

[@sevenpaulperalta929]

I remember when Bono would cancel dates due to his voice, but now, modern artists don't even have to sing!

[@RealPackCat]

with Holograms, the do not even have to show up.

[@Michael-u3n5l]

imagine that 2 billion dollar tour and you don't even have to sing

[@-Swamp_Donkey-]

@@Michael-u3n5lthe rapid outfit changes are brutal though

[@GeorgeCortez-pr1cj]

Taylor Swift in concert if a sore throat has voice over protection add in all she has to do is raise micro phone in the air and her voice over sound comes in and saves the day, the audience doesn't even notice because there high on Taylor Swift moving around on stage.

[@KilianMuster]

Milli-Vanilli is basically the name of the game these days.

[@m1ke176]

Making kids pay $800-$1000 for a lip synched concert is the real crime.

[@jackjohnson7396]

Kids they do not care. Many the parents pay.

[@DanielLiebert-i1p]

I saw Curtis Mayfield and the Impressions - legendary R&B groups for $2 a ticket in the late 1960's. They crowded their backup and trio onto a small movie theater stage and it was MAGIC. I doubt if all of them, including the band got $1,000 AND they paid their own travel.

[@FOH3663]

​@@DanielLiebert-i1p Wow, synchronicity! Would've loved to see that. I saw Curtis Mayfield in ~'93 in Negril Jamaica ... at the small resort in which we stayed.

[@DanielLiebert-i1p]

@@FOH3663 This was after his group fame but before his solo 'Superfly' fame. Later at a show a heavy piece of equipment fell on him and was paralyzed and soon died forgotten.

[@serenityinside1]

@@DanielLiebert-i1pThafs an awful tragedy 😯

[@TennesseeJed70]

The analysis is brilliant! It's sad that Swift won't own it. I personally expect to hear a unique performance when I attend a "live" concert, but apparently Swift's fans don't seem to mind so much.

[@ablurida]

Anyone who goes to see swift does not really care about music or true artistry anyway. She truly is the McDonald's of music.

[@Folklorel1213]

​@@abluridaWhat y'all don't getting? Born in a different generation I can really say. It's about the experience, enjoying the moments, emotions put into it and overall. Additionally, IT'S LIVE CONCERT, yeah of course there's times she's lip syncing (swifties know that) but not all the time. There's times, she's messing it up, performing while her in-ear monitor malfunctioning. NOT ALL THE TIME SHE'S LIP SYNCING, see for urself then. SEARCH UP "ERRORS TOUR" you'll see bunch of videos, hopes this helps

[@davidsroom260]

@@ablurida Completely. A good way to judge that is the level of cultish behavior from the fans. I love Madonna but hated her last cd. Swift fans would chew off their own foot before admitting she can do any wrong. How many dads watched their daughter react to getting tickets and said "Wow---I REALLY don't get females."

[@lindajohnson4204]

They might actually think it is futuristic, therefore they are conforming their expectations to the new way. If all music is "fixed" to make it "better", that might be accepted on the basis that it makes her voice kind of transhumanist, beyond mere human perfection, and that's supposed to be good.

[@stever8776]

I saw Cher perform in 2001. She announced that since she had a sore throat, she would he lip syncing! Still loved the show. And appreciated her honesty!

[@PlaceboEffect5150]

I would have walked out and got my money back. But bravo they give you slim to nothing and you are happy. That's hilarious

[@robertellison4889]

I'd lip sync for you for half the cost of a cher ticket. You were grifted.

[@JimEadon]

I'd be angry.

[@makattak88]

Holy sheep. This isn’t something I’d tell the public.

[@ofangelsanarchists2386]

I’d get my money back The audio quality of whatever you’ve got at home is better You’re just listening to a track anyway lol

[@ronnyskaar3737]

Great, Fil. You should do this with an artist that is NOT miming, so we can see what diffences you should expect from live performances.

[@singingway]

Yes!

[@marymissmary]

Yes please!

[@cindi1313]

Check out Fil's Glastonbury video from July, comparing Cyndi Lauper and Dua Lipa's performances there.

[@Kevvinm]

Good point

[@kimdawcatgirl]

Rush has many different performances on their tours on youtube. They never mime.

[@ancaprodan3685]

She's true to her marketing: you got exactly what the commercial advertised.

[@laurenm3148]

BINGO

[@ReigningMan-x8o]

In that way she’s totally honest lol

[@gantmj]

What did the commercial advertise?

[@JerryVdm-r4m]

What did the commercial advertise? That she would lip sync to pre-recorded audio? Guess not, ..

[@spookeymo]

i watched the commercial to understand your comment and i still dont lol. can someone explain?

[@MelissaBackwoods]

She’s performing three nights a week, for 3.5 hours each night on a tour that’s last 2 years. It’s both amusing that people are denying her lip syncing and also that people are surprised she is lip synching. Of course she is, the tour is basically a Vegas performance at the point.

[@AlanMcCarthyguitar]

Good point ! Is it even physically possible to do that much singing for real ? Was she forced to do this !!

[@johnholmes8919]

she is doing so many shows out of pure greed springsteen plays for 3 and a half hours with no lip synching

[@LUKIE389]

@@johnholmes8919no, she wants to make it so that ALL fans can experience the eras tour. that’s why there are so many shows.

[@brucethomas5123]

If she’s lip synching she could do two shows a day seven days a week,you tosser

[@NoName-dr8wt]

I'm a vocalist with many, many years of experience in different settings and groups. I've learned that some can actually handle a great deal more singing than others, without flinching from such a load. Taylor is vocally weak, if not an untalented charlatan.

[@deepzepp4176]

One guy in his studio room exposing a billion dollar, money making machine. Love it.

[@jessiem276]

Exactly 💯

[@ikmor]

We are all in this. Fil is NOT alone.

[@CalJennings]

Hear, hear!

[@fallingsky1984]

but does it do anthing to the machine.? i duobt most taylor swift fans are going to give a danm about this. 😂

[@themadmattster9647]

yeah this may go viral who knows

[@josephhorswell4839]

Ashley Simpson was canceled into Extinction for lip syncing one performance on SNL. Why is it okay for TS to do it?

[@colinburroughs9871]

people are emotionally invested into one and simply won't accept anything other than "feelings" being the crux of the matter

[@StarBuck-v8k]

@@josephhorswell4839 SNL is LIVE that’s why and she handled it poorly. At a 3.5 hour show you get more than one 2 songs with nothing else. Ashley & Jessica were industry plants who never had any real hits. Taylor has stood the test of time for 20 yrs. They don’t allow industry plants to become more powerful than her own label. Everyone can see she uses a backing track and sings over it during parts of her concerts. They don’t need Fil to show them. The problem I see is several fold, it’s implying she does it throughout her entire show and doesn’t sing at all; people are coming here to use it as a basis to criticize her for everything when he has shown some of the greatest singers in history do this, yet the outrage isn’t there, it seems the comments are skewed and just given people a reason to voice their hate; he has made his point but in 13 days put out 3 Taylor videos which have generated more views than his other videos this entire month combined, therefore he is just like everyone else using her popularity to make money; people are failing to understand her show is several levels, it not just vocal performance it’s an experience. I’ve been to several concerts in my long life, this is an entire patience; it’s well known that heavily produced pop uses this backing tracks with heavily choreo’d pieces, notice his tiny desk is not pinned anywhere I couldn’t find it, showing she’s actually singing live wouldn’t bring the clicks; he isn’t showing parts of her concert that are acoustic and just her. Her concerts are an experience. You don’t have to like the experience, or her, or her songs, but he’s shown she is doing nothing different than some of the greatest vocalists in history & greatest if not the greatest performer in history did it. Yet here people are going after her?

[@jasoncoomer1226]

​@@StarBuck-v8kYou just wrote the encyclopedia in an attempt to defend a pop star. I think ITS YOU that's invested too much in this. *She charges thousands to children to watch her flap her lips....She is a turd* Quit turd simping...

[@billkraemer4710]

Well, the record company thinks it’s okay so…

[@TheGamingHoser]

@@StarBuck-v8k Wasn't his example her singing acoustically and just her? What did you hear him play? If there was any real singing at that concert wouldn't it be during a no-instrument, acapella moment like that?

[@missangiee66]

She's a brand. That's it, that's all.

[@nothing-jl2dz]

Sadly

[@KarenMacDonald-o7g]

A bad brand and on the decline for sure

[@UniqueSundials]

Janis Joplin never did this.

[@KarenMacDonald-o7g]

@ none of the music today is real it’s all electronically generated. I was a teen in the late 60s early 70s best music ever in my opinion

[@claytonbouldin9381]

Beyonce, JLo and Ariana Carpenter all the same...go see a local band who live and die by how much merch they sell at their show.

[@gudrune]

This tour is the biggest ever. She's one of the most important persons on the planet. I'm a finance guy. Given the scale of the tour, the insane logistics of an entire village coming together for a show, with the money involved, it makes so much sense that it's sanitised AF. She should sell hologram shows and people would still pay. Instead of going to see local artists she's taken over "everything". And so because of the money involved, you can't afford to have her crash and burn, so she's not singing to begin with. It's for parents to explain the power of money to their kids and teach them not to be suckers.

[@allancrow134]

Yeah, she gets the money and fame and our culture and art gets dumbed down. No winners here.

[@gudrune]

@@allancrow134 Many / most markets tend to become "winner takes all". Music in a global world is a textbook example. If people realized that 90+% of the time, they listen to the same spotify songs over and over again, they'd be better off buying the songs once and stopping their subs...

[@thislightful]

I am a singer/musician. I agree with you 100% here. No two audio files ever sound exactly the same to where you can overlap them on top of each other unless it’s the exact same audio file. In cases like this for super fans, I would suggest that you show an example perhaps someone who is singing the same lyric and two different cities so that the viewer can hear how similar it sounds, but also see how unsimilar it really is in the data.

[@ktyy777]

yes!! the audience, vocal mix, even the venue’s architecture would render different harmonics even if the song was played the exact same way if not mimed (as explained at around 3:50)

[@CityLightsMusic]

It's sad. It's like if youre going to listen to dance music you know what you're listening to. When you go to a vocalists performance you would hope it was live but really they just have a dj in a hidden booth swapping tracks. This is also why I feel ghost production needs to stop being pushed as well. That's my opinion tho.

[@katberinger2049]

Fil has done a few examples with comparisons of live performances. Look through his playlist

[@michaelhex]

look at the Karen Carpenter vid, it shows just how perfect her voice was BUT each performance was just slighly different. (as it should be)

[@Evl_1]

As a singer I can tell you each vocal performance is different. It is effected by Weather, Food Drink, Sleep, and how you feel that day. You never feel the same everyday. It’s always different.

[@yara5502]

True. As a vocal coach for 20 years I agree, and Taylor does sound different every night on The Eras tour too. But 1989 is in her perfect placement of her voice. Anyone who goes to the show or if you have a musical ear can hear the imperfections in her live voice even through the streams. For anyone who doubts go listen to a live stream, you will clearly hear her live voice cracks and off key moments through the whole night. However she is a really good vocalist and sings live 100% of the entire show. That is a fact.

[@helloheyo4ever]

@@yara5502 agreed. Anyone who says differently has never attended an actual performance and is not aware of her set list and performances.

[@owlampersand7993]

Right. Not to mention female hormones every month.

[@michaelnielsen8407]

😳

[@samprakos]

@@helloheyo4ever @yara5502 So you're saying this analysis isn't conclusive proof of her lip syncing? She's so absolutely perfect in every performance irregardless of weather, temp, mood, etc? Really?

[@nettie607]

My adult daughter told me once that I was naive expecting anyone in concert to actually be singing. She insisted that no one could dance like that and still sing. Broadway performers do that 8 shows a week, and (fingers crossed!) none of them are lip syncing. Of course, she also refused to believe that I could hear auto-tune/pitch-correction. I feel very old.

[@VikingAwayFromHome]

Phantom of the opera actually has a part that's lipped 🤷

[@Fedorevsky]

Indeed, in fact I can't not hear autotune even if I try, lol

[@Veeger]

Get her to watch Queen at Live Aid. No miming, no pitch correction, just performance. Puts modern artists to shame.

[@carr0760]

​@@VikingAwayFromHome I was just going to say this, But it is well known in the industry, and it is the exception, not the rule. 99.99% of those performances are completely live and always part of my response to people who say that you can't expect a concert to have live singing when they are also dancing. Unfortunately, the practice of pitch correcting studio recordings has made its way into the musical theatre world, and it's devastating.

[@richardcoffey3125]

Wait till A.I. does all the singing and they use dancing poodles instead of the artist.

[@markfranczak329]

Thanks!

[@wingsofpegasus]

Thank you!

[@larushka1]

When she was accused by Dave Grohl, she said during a performance that “My band plays live for over 3 hours”. She did not say that she sung live. Words matter.

[@jimijam1963]

I doubt her band is even playing live, to be honest.

[@appleish5043]

@@jimijam1963 as long as 2 ppl in her band is doing something, it’s playing live 🙄 that would be enough to cover her track for lawsuits lol 🤦‍♀️

[@vandalsgarage]

@@jimijam1963 Generally, acts like Taylor's utilize backing tracks for both the band and the singer(s). The band very well could be playing along with the backing track, And they can honestly claim to be "playing live", even if that's not what (or all) you're hearing

[@SasquatchLovesMe]

ah, you've got that cult mindset, just like the maga creeps in the US.

[@emmavink]

Except she does sing live at the very least partially on most of her songs. And she has quite a few songs each night that are literally just her and a guitar or her and the piano. Also, the Dave Grohl beef was manufactured AF. There are interviews from not even that long ago where he gushes over her. People need to find other things than successful and talented women to bitch about.

[@cloudsephiroth5382]

This guy is single-handedly demolishing the allure of top 'musicians' today. 10/10 work, here.

[@janechapman6448]

@@cloudsephiroth5382 no, hardly.

[@harryhanz1690]

@cloudsephiroth5382 He's doing what?

[@larrywilliams7942]

It's way past time to expose the FAKERS !

[@patientmental875]

Its no secret & only normies think its real at concerts but unfortunately normies are the reason these so called "artists" keep doing it because they are 99% of their fanbase. They also believe they write & produce their own songs

[@m.bird.]

You're being ridiculous.

[@sharmalarm]

I don’t mind if Taylor is miming. Everything about her comes across fake and over-produced to me anyway

[@jimmycampbell78]

exactly, always been fake and pushed by corporate elites

[@mikem.s.1183]

I can separate the two sides of it. She's dark? Yes. Her lyrics are corrupting young minds? Yes. Her behavior as a woman is not acceptable, considering she's touted as a role model? Yes. She's extremely dangerous. As a dancer, she performs quite well. She's not Michael Jackson quality, but she's good. Her performance voice wise? She is praised for her vocals, and just how professional she is. Well, undeniably she isn't performing as she claims, as her propaganda machine claims, as her cultist followers claim. So, on top of all the negative things she represents, she's unprofessional and fooling her audience. That's a one big nail in the coffin thing. If she isn't even performing, why are fans following her? That's the crux.

[@JadonHale]

​@@mikem.s.1183yeah some of these pop artists have insane lyrics for the target audience being kids. Definitely subliminal messaging

[@amraceway]

@@mikem.s.1183 There is an NPR Tiny Desk Concert of her on You Tube if you want to see her perform solo with just her guitar.

[@colecolettecole]

shes just boring ~ her voice is boring nothing special ~ her songs are boring ~ i have listened & not one melody has even stuck in my mind ~ even listened to acoustic tiny desk concerts ~ nothing there ~ boring boring boring ~ she is pretty ~ she likes staging fashion shows ~ pop is just that ~ air fizz nothing ~

[@emily60156]

I remember years ago, a voice coach was hired by her daddy to help Taylor Swift learn to sing. He said she had the worst singing voice he'd ever heard. He said she was utterly tone-deaf. All those suckers that pay $1000 to see someone prance around, lip-syncing...SMH

[@ElsonFernando78]

1000 dollar tickets. That should be illegal

[@Strepite]

Anyone who pays 1k for a concert ticket deserve to be ripped off...

[@vernonharden]

That's the price on secondary market I believe. There are groups who swoop in and buy all of the tickets they can. Which with online sales there's no way to really stop it, not when the resellers can use bots to buy up the bulk.

[@neoczy3249]

That's illegal....and that's call stealing

[@LiClan]

@@neoczy3249I think Andrew Tate was recommending his followers do that for a reliable hustle so there’s lots of people that do that

[@StarBuck-v8k]

That’s not her prices.

[@Nickmacpaddywhack]

There used to be a time when an artist's career would be totally destroyed if they got caught lip-syncing. And now it's just normal and no one cares.

[@Willrocs]

The general public did but the record companies would rather have a million milli vanilli. Far easier to control every aspect.

[@liste302]

that's because taylor didn't get famous for her singing, she got famous because of her songwriting. Besides, the show is still very magical to watch, no matter if it's 100% live or not...

[@Nickmacpaddywhack]

@liste302 it's not just her. It's basically every modern artist nowadays.

[@dragons_red]

​@@liste302 she has numerous songwriters so there's that

[@richard--s]

​@@liste302 she got famous, because she is young and looks good and she can sing. That attracts young people in about the same age that feel "oh, that could be me, she is just like me". A new idol for a new generation.

[@swimbikerundotph]

The mere fact there are almost no Swifties in the comments section trashing the guy tells you all you need to know about this video. Bro knows his stuff.

[@tracygarrett3952]

How many videos have you done regarding Taylor? Repeating the same thing. Who is your audience? I believe you are doing this for views because what is the point of repeating this stuff? There are plenty of other artists you can talk about. Nothing you say about as loved a performer as Taylor will matter, nor has it mattered with any of the videos you have made. Let her fans have their fun. Let Taylor help the economy in those venues she performs. Can this be the last video, or do you need to make more money from views? Will you continue even after the shows have been completed? Look, I am almost 80 years old, and I don't plan on going to anyone's concert. Just stop already because you're not reaching her audience. It's an experience for her fans. There are 80K fans in one stadium and not one fight. The fans exit the concert singing. It's time for you to move on.

[@enzopied3015]

​@@tracygarrett3952 it honestly sounds like it's time for you to move on if you're getting this triggered about it

[@YetAnotherMarriedCouple]

@@tracygarrett3952the more popular you are, the more videos will be made about you.

[@reneeleegreco1603]

I grew up with 70's music and watched bands perform on various shows. The performances were so dynamic yet simple. The talent was unmatched

[@shorttimer874]

Tho I remember all the TV shows where the guitars were not plugged in...

[@timadair9950]

Yes I agree, I started going to gigs in the 70's. Think we were fortunate to be young at possibly the best time for enjoying live music, and music generally.

[@suzanneflowers2230]

Yes

[@jfwhatahwhat7408]

How do we know if there isn't back masking on that audio file that say's "lets all love satan" to millions of fans?

[@bintheredonethat]

I worked for one of the biggest promoters in the country, late 70s through the 80s, and worked many hundreds of shows. Many acts multiple times like the Stones, Who, Dead, Journey, U2 and while those all sounded great there was no way they could be immaculately consistent every time. The performances were unadulterated and therefore not absolutely perfect but they sure where an expression of pure talent. Nothing else needed. The fans knew what they were hearing and loved it.

[@shariherman34]

Whatever happened to singers just singing? Why do they all feel like they need to be dancers too? You buy their music because you like it. You listen to the radio to HEAR them. Why do they think people even give a crap if they dance when its live in concert? Whitney didn't dance around. Celine didnt dance around. Barbra didnt dance around! Its ridiculous! If you want to be a dancer, then dance. If you're a singer, just sing. Concerts dont have to be Broadway extravaganzas. If i wanted a Broadway show I'd go see a Broadway show!

[@nordvegfigg7746]

Singers just singing wouldn't sell in the 2020s.

[@dominiqueprice3304]

The irony of this is Broadway performer still live 8 shows a week whilst doing often far more technically demanding choreography.

[@gorak9000]

@@dominiqueprice3304 And you think Broadway people aren't miming the musical bits too? Get some recordings from a couple of different shows and analyze them - I bet you'd be surprised.

[@gorak9000]

"Whatever happened to singers just singing?" $2BN happened, that's what...

[@philiphumphrey1548]

I've noticed that it's much harder to sing well if you're doing something else (like accompanying yourself on the piano). You only have so much brain capacity and doing two tasks at once (even if they are well learned and almost instinctive) degrades your performance on both. I imagine dancing would badly mess with your breathing.

[@MykeLewisMusic]

I was a stagehand for one of her shows back in '10/'11, the tour with the water wall. The entire show, minus the backing band, was fake. They had this taiko "drum battle" between Taylor and some redhead and the keyboard player was triggering the drum sounds every time they pretended to hit the drum. We had a good laugh about it.

[@heysolley]

You should write a book. People would buy it.

[@billkeithchannel]

@@heysolley Tommy James had to wait until that mob boss died before he could release his tell-all book.

[@EltonWhenRockWasYoung]

I had the great pleasure of catching the ABBA hologram show at their arena in London earlier this year. I can tell you that the backing band does not play live to a click, but simply mimes. Now, my wife (who is not a musician) was moved to tears by the show, and couldn't fault it. So I guess it's each to their own. 😊

[@marknewellmusic]

​@@EltonWhenRockWasYoung Ignorance is bliss - once you know how the cake is made, it's never the same since then...

[@RationalEgoism]

If that's your real name, I hope you don't get sued for violating an NDA or something.

[@Killersam776]

So a couple things i would point out as a fan of taylor’s. I took my wife to her eras show in minnesota so i’ve seen the show. First, i absolutely believe there are parts of her show that she lip syncs plain and simple. Second, there are parts where i believe she is singing live over a backing track (she doesn’t try to hide that). Third, there are parts she is absolutely singing live. There are videos of her swallowing bugs mid singing and you hear her coughing and the singing stops. There’s videos of her singing the lyrics wrong or forgetting the lyrics. There’s videos of her laughing during her singing. I think it’s important to understand that this show is like 3.5 hours long and usually 3-4 days in a row week after week. It’s incredibly physically and vocally demanding so i really don’t think it’s any surprise that parts of the show are not live vocals. Would be curious to look at more songs from the tour to get a better idea of how much is live vocals

[@fabulousfreddyisready]

A grown man that is a fan of Swift....get a grip putz.

[@anacarolinam7603]

Same. I think this is mindblowing for some people, but I don't go to concerts to hear a band or a singer singing live, my main expectation is to enjoy the experience.

[@andydietrich3689]

How do people not understand this? I made this logical conclusion when the tour first started and someone made a comment about how she does everything live 3-4 hours a day for multiples days a week. It’s literally impossible.

[@3dfantasymarkkun]

Well put! It's obvious some of her songs lend themselves to actual live performances more than others. I believe they tastefully selected the songs she sings live and the ones she doesn't, and it didn't take away from the experience. Everyone still had an amazing time. :)

[@itainava6874]

Couldn’t agree more. It’s a 3.5-hour show. She’s giving the chance to her fans to enjoy all together as much music, and, well the eras, as she can. It’s a whole experience to sing loudly with other fans, which festivals somehow has also taken away with just 1 hour-1.5 hours performances if you’re lucky just to grab as much money as they can (like any business in this industry) every year.

[@BeckVMH]

Wow! She’s better than we dreamed! Perfectly synchronized at four separate performances! She’s incred…. oh, wait.😮

[@heather6668]

LOL Yeah amazing NOT.

[@simduino]

She's also perfectly synchronized with her wallet... audience paying big bucks for big deceit, isn't there a word for that? ste**ing....

[@carstenhorn5075]

Many Swifties certainly believe that

[@ericede]

Not to mention the way her pitch snaps perfectly to every note line! Such a virtuoso!

[@charmainechan2801]

k-pop is even more extreme

[@daysleepnightread6905]

Milli Vanilli deserve an official apology from the media.

[@TheSkachaska]

oni mieli producenta niemca, więc za co przepraszać? oni też dobrze śpiewali, ale producent uważał inaczej a potencjał był...

[@gardz3256]

Problem with them is they didn’t ever sing their songs, even the original recordings. They tried a comeback, where they had to learn their own songs.

[@kerinsian8844]

They really don't. Miming to your own vocal is one thing and possibly even necessary in some situations or cases... what they did was mime to someone else's singing. They were a totally fake manufactured act hired for their looks and their looks only. It was a scam.

[@barrywilliamsmb]

They blamed it on the reign

[@daysleepnightread6905]

Should have blamed it on the boogie!

[@Jaco3688]

Milli Vanilli were lambasted for doing what many, many artists routinely do now.

[@AnimalTV-fl7xe]

Milli Vanilli were miming to tracks other people had recorded - ie, it wasn't even them in the first place. Which is a bit different.

[@JLE999]

@@AnimalTV-fl7xeit’s a bit different but the same technique was used for Britney and J-Lo who often weren’t even singing on their albums too.

[@adambane1719]

You are INCORRECT Jackooooooooooooo

[@willth3thrill]

Not the same thing at all. Taylor probably performed it live like they do at the Super Bowl and then is miming that live performance so it’s live sounding.

[@thormelsted]

Not even remotely the same. If Taylor Swift was miming tracks performed by an anonymous vocalist and taking credit for those vocals, then that would be an appropriate comparison.

[@bmcknight23]

I would love to debate if fans actually care if their favorite artist mimes the whole show

[@PaperBanjo64]

My favorite artist actually sings live!

[@tagoldich]

And the NYT declared her "Bigger than the Beatles" lol

[@Ms-K-w2x]

Unfortunately she's bigger than anybody in her field. Thanks to the internet and social media, and the failure of schools and parents.

[@AmazingDisgrace911]

They also claim to be "journalists" lol.

[@Ms-K-w2x]

@AmazingDisgrace911 There are worse journalism in the world, it could be the amount of silicone in Kylie Jenner's lips.

[@ballhawk387]

Actually very appropriate, since so much of their "news" is fake propaganda

[@firewfire]

😂

[@MyAvitech]

Lads, remember to pour one out for Fil. Fil was a brave man. He poked the most powerful of Dragons. Her name, Swifties. Let us remember him well.

[@hmm3484]

I made the mistake of infuriating K-pop fans one time. I don’t even remember why - it was something trivial and not even any kind of actual dis But wow. They were really mad! Wishing you the best, Fil!😂

[@knownote]

He needs to make a statement that he is happy and not suicidal 😂

[@Mina-12128]

🔥yeah cause when he only analyzed 30 seconds of an obviously lip synching part its confirmation bias. She sings live on so many other parts, but he doesn't speak a word of that. Fil can go on his world tour and sing live for 3.5 hours straight, 3 days a week as a soloist, just to prove the boys on youtube wrong....and then deal with permanently damaged vocal chords because that's literally not humanly possible🔥

[@knownote]

@@Mina-12128 ahh the swifties are swift to the defense

[@hazzewazeen]

@@Mina-12128It IS indeed possible to sing for 3,5 hours straight no breaks. I just did it yesterday. But I didn’t change any clothes on stage though😃. Proper vocal technique and a fit body no problems. And to do it night after night, just get your sleep and drink water.

[@leinie6683]

Remember when Milli Vanilli ended because they were caught lip syncing ? What the hell has happened to consumer expectations i this world ?

[@carriesolomonmusic]

I think they literally didn’t even sing on the record though? I still hear your point though but a little different

[@thalamay]

Milli Vanilli were also not singing the songs they were lip synching to. But then again, with all the autotuning going on, Taylor Swift isn't singing her own songs either. The times, they are a changing.

[@Krista2882]

For them it was slightly different because not only were they miming, but the guys "singing" (miming) in concert weren't even the real guys who recorded the song.

[@bjarnyg]

you can't compare, cause milli vanilli didn't even sing on their records. they didn't sing, period. imagine the uproar if it was revealed that taylor swift did the same thing, that she had someone else to sing for her.

[@janechapman6448]

@@leinie6683 hardly a comparison

[@roboticpunk]

The funniest thing was when she was yelling at a security guard during I think ‘Bad Blood’, and was saying “Stop it. She didn’t do anything” (referring to whoever the security was trying to control) and “you know we got bad blood” continued singing perfectly while she was yelling away 🤣

[@williamweiss6128]

It's rampant. Not just pop. Miss the loud, real, imperfect, human, creative, spontaneous, concerts. All the bands played the same way back in the day.

[@musicnutzunite]

That's why I'm SO EXCITED to be seeing IRON MAIDEN November 16th. I got my ticket ALMOST A YEAR AGO. Maiden is 100% legit live. It's astounding that Bruce Dickinson is in his mid-60s and I believe he's the youngest member. They put on a SPECTACULAR live show-warts and all. That's REAL music there folks. 🤘

[@StarBuck-v8k]

@@musicnutzunite saw them 3 yrs ago in Denver. Really nice. The shows are different of course.

[@Emmys2436]

It feels like how on social media people blur out every pore or wrinkle, brighten teeth, slim, etc etc. Believe it or not, I a fan of humans. I want to enjoy real human beauty, real moments. Not these freaky aliens or AI 😂 Erasing the humanity is raaaaampant!!

[@samwight4709]

​@@Emmys2436 agree 100%

[@jessicamedina9005]

THE CURE ALWAYS PLAYS LIVE!

[@kamorant]

Rush played 2 hour and 45 minute shows into their late 60s. Geddy Lee played bass, keyboards, bass pedals and sung. Sometimes all at the same time....and with zero pitch correction.

[@SeasonedAngel1]

Sir Paul McCartney, at age 82 is still playing 3 hour concerts! Although Sir Paul's band does take a break, not Sir Paul. He never leaves stage. He plays bass, several guitars (electric & accoustic), mandolin, & keyboards. Sir Paul also sings & tells stories, some are humorous. At present, he is appearing in South America.

[@keithdavis7595]

That's because Rush has talent and Taylor does not.

[@dougellis8904]

@@SeasonedAngel1 But Paul's voice is gone.

[@Saxafruge]

Geddy sounds pretty bad live, to be honest

[@rebeccatalotta9628]

And many drugs😂

[@thundernels]

Fil is fearless in his most recent videos.

[@alejmora]

My first reaction, do not poke that bear ...

[@jessiem276]

​@@alejmoraWhy not? The truth needed to be told.

[@ginnyvogel7754]

I love Fil pushing the envelope!

[@vls3771]

Fil will need body guards soon 😅millions of 13 year olds gathering around his house 😅😅😅

[@lynnbaron11]

I’m worried that somebody is going to try to sue Fil. He’s going up against some powerful people.

[@itsGINA11]

Thank you for doing these!

[@AlanTov]

The important secondary issue is they chose to pitch correct the studio 'live' performance. That's an additional disgrace.

[@0oDaan12o0]

This is done for a lot (if not most) of live performances. The original audio's cleaned up (a good thing) and then pitch corrected (imho a bad thing). Fil reacted to among others Got Talent live vids (the TV versions) and they all had heavy editing. According to Simon Cowell, that's TV. No grain of integrity left. In my opinion.

[@AlanTov]

​@@0oDaan12o0I agree. Additionally it's very disappointing the artist is happy with pitch correction of their voice. Some lack of respect for the audience as well as inherent insecurity.

[@krollpeter]

That. Plus, she also uses AI to write her lyrics.

[@matthewrichard7187]

@@0oDaan12o0 exactly. Not saying it makes it OK, but I don't recall the last time I watched a "live" production for sale that wasn't completely touched up in post (pitch corrected, parts resung, etc). It's sad, but it's the standard by which artists feel the need to live up. Playing devil's advocate, I truly believe we'd see JUST as much (possibly worse) blowback if the entire Eras Tour was 100% live, and she missed notes, dropped keys ("it doesn't sound like the radio!"), or skipped songs altogether because she's human sometimes you wake up and your voice says "not today!". (II've been a career singer and guitar player for coming up on 30 years. One thing I have learned is with singing, I just have to do my best to care for my voice and work around my human limitations). So it seems to be they are just trying to pander to the majority. The majority public is trained to expect the live concert to sound like what they heard on the radio. That is all but impossible without the heavy backing tracks and assisted live singing in a show that runs 3 1/2 hours, 3 nights in a row. I honestly enjoyed the show, regardless of tha fact I KNEW it wasn't all 100% live vocals.

[@vanessaa7602]

They have to since she can't sing 😂

[@Outrider74]

Story for you from across the pond: my daughter’s college music professor actually worked with Swift some years ago. He remarked that her voice was fsr more “tweaked” than people realized.

[@allisonemry3755]

Musician from Nashville here - this is 100% true. Producer at Omni sound studios said he never had to work so hard in his whole career.😅

[@jeanbean1390]

I thought she wasn't very good since I first heard her sing.

[@mah3223alia]

I have never understood the Taylor Swift thing. Sort of mediocre......?

[@MaxTooney]

This is not a huge surprise. But no one comes close to the tweaking required to make Madonna "listenable".

[@rccyberwarrior2267]

@@mah3223alia She is actually a dude -- now he has full blown satanic rituals on stage & curses gullible fans (elite jenn door inversion).

[@TruthSurge]

wow, I thought you were going to compare all those shows in SEQUENTIAL ORDER. I was listening to the audio thinking okay, that's the first show AND it's clearly autotuned. That maj 3rd is exactly the same pitch EVERY time she hits it.... then when you stopped the vocals.... only then it hit me.... he's playing ALL FOUR SHOWS SIMULTANEOUSLY. wow. it sounds like ONE vocal, not four different vocals layered over each other. If it was live, you'd get this huge vocal quadrupling effect but no, a singular pitch is coming through. That's all the proof one needs. Next...

[@chaos.corner]

The only problem is, if you mix nearly identical recordings, you're likely to get weird phasing and beat effects.

[@francoisbouvier7861]

Who is actually playing live? Are there artists/performers playing/singing?

[@loribrown9204]

@@TruthSurge it proves that Taylor utilized auto correct when it’s needed! She doesn’t use it without exception

[@TruthSurge]

@@chaos.corner "The only problem is, if you mix nearly identical recordings, you're likely to get weird phasing and beat effects." only if the phase IS shifted and if you have 4 DIGITAL recordings playing, then the timing is going to be EXACT because guess how the recordings of the shows were made. Digitally. So, the 4 voices will stay in sync and all you need to do is start them on time and again, if it were 4 different live vocals, you would have a CHORUS effect or doubling effect going on. There is not one going on here. Nor is there a cancelling from phase shift because they are not phase shifted. You could do that but that's another test.

[@TruthSurge]

@@loribrown9204 it actually proved she mimed to the same prerecorded vocal on at least 4 different shows. That is a separate issue from autotune.

[@shitsakrabeen4547]

I was crushed as an aspiring child drummer when my hero Stewart Copeland's cymbals swung out of time with The Police's mimed rendition of Message in a Bottle, "Live" on Australia's Top of the Pops- Countdown in 1980.

[@connie7128]

I'm Gen X. Grew up on rock concerts where we held up real lighters and nobody had a camera or a damn phone recording themselves to post on social media. I saw them all in person, from Metallica to Elton John, and never once were people pretending to sing. The flaws in their instruments or voices were glorious, because it was all them. I would be nothing but flipping angry if I went to some silly concert today. It would be boring to me. I am grateful to have come up when I did.

[@thetokyorake]

Ironically, without those phones, Fil wouldn't be able to do his great work! LOL But I totally agree with you!

[@BigBri550]

I don't know if "boring" is even the word for it. I would say "numbing." It's sensory masturbation: dazzling lights, expensive stage sets, dancers, wardrobe changes, loud, incessant booming of basic beats. It's like Vegas on the road. And I hate Las Vegas, btw.

[@jdhlsc169]

Best generation of music, 70s & 80s!

[@sharonsocoloski5485]

I totally agree! I'm 68yrs old. I've seen, Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band, Journey, Fleetwood Mac, David Bowie and many more in my years. Never have their been any auto tune or lip syncing. Yes, we too used "real lighters" as opposed to phone flashlights.

[@Broughton_Main]

As someone earlier said, those were a different kind of show. The singer may have climbed on a stack but he wasn't singing at that particular moment. Also some shows like Alice Cooper, are highly theatrical but the actions of the singer are timed and he isn't singing while moving a lot. Some movement is obviously okay but just keep in mind, the more action there is, the less singing there would be at that moment.

[@user-uj8dh7gf4g]

Honestly, swifties really do not care. Sad, but true.

[@alana2830]

Swifties are sad but true

[@makattak88]

Liberal voters be like this.

[@telabib]

SHE IS A REALLY GREAT PERFORMER

[@alana2830]

@telabib she is a cult leader who can't sing live

[@user-uj8dh7gf4g]

@ It depends on what you consider a performer. I will give her props for being a great business woman and a spectacular self-promoter. Her song writing abilities are adequate for her audience. As for her singing………meh. It has been very well documented that her voice is generally below average and requires a LOT of auto tuning. Now, you add that she lips syncs on stage AND charges exorbitant ticket fees….sounds sketchy and even a but fraudulent. I think her fans deserve better.

[@Emslander]

It’s hard enough to believe that this woman draws these audiences. That she does so by miming makes this phenomenon an atrocity.

[@queenofnevers6990]

I don't understand the obsession with her. She's so mediocre.

[@cherylfarmer6086]

@@queenofnevers6990 Totally agree, average to below average singer, her songs are all the same and sophomoric, she's ok looking not beautiful, I share your puzzlement with regard to her popularity.

[@kathyhilliard1500]

O​@@cherylfarmer6086

[@ma3stro681]

@@queenofnevers6990She’s absolutely garbage. A perfect manufactured star for these NPC times, that have now ended with the magnificent election of President Trump … 🎉

[@JaneBoss-k9r]

An atrocity is war crimes, a sexual predator who walks free a xenophobe and a destroyer of womens rights Maga

[@annellis5689]

I wondered how her voice could last through all these performances

[@knowname7289]

swifties will argue that "she's just that good"...

[@Skkyyyyyyyyyyy]

Swifties are a special kind of stupid

[@VandaPietrantonio]

NO WAY.

[@Blaze-v6f]

They are in a brainwashed cult called The New World Order or the democrat party.

[@cuppycakey5013]

Oh they are, they’re in complete denial. It’s amusing though. 😅

[@trevorodell5564]

It's not even about "good," though. No human is that precise and intractable in their performance. I've seen analyses of some amazing performances where they nailed the timing and pitch to an unbelievable degree, and the waveforms still looked nothing alike. There is no natural way these should line up the same. One is a lightning-strikes-twice kind of situation. Four is more like pick-this-specific-atom-at-random-out-of-all-the-observable-universe kind of odds.

[@davidstevens7119]

This was known years ago. A youtuber had recordings of the isolated vocal feeds for several pop stars in concert, including Taylor Swift, but also Ariana Grande, Katy Perry, others. None of them were singing live but just choking out some breathless sounds so their lips would sync with the recordings. Ms. Grande actually carried the tune, but the others were just speaking.

[@MusicQ1984]

I shot a few of her shows, shes definitely singing but I believe this is also true, in a failsafe should something go wrong. The amount of shows, the amount of hours, and lack of rest due to media commitments is the strain on the modern popstar. Theres definitely people exploiting it though and barely doing anything, but AG to my knowledge is doing a lot of live Vox

[@leodeleo18]

Can tell if Katy Perry is actually live or not - she’s off-key a lot when live!

[@lep2525]

Ariana doesn’t really deserve to be grouped with those two. She can actually sing and has serious range.

[@tootz1950]

I don't think Swifties even care. They just want to see her live and her show.

[@JR-tr1df]

Agree. It's the show.

[@JustinWillhoit]

They think the value of seeing the show is literally seeing her with your eyes

[@nickmartin812]

Correct

[@JR-tr1df]

@@JustinWillhoit It's a semi-live movie, basically. Combination theater/concert presentation. If it's enough for the given audience, providing the entertainment they [fans] desire then it is quite literally the proper value for their desire I reckon. Not being eh my thing? I guess doesn't make it right or wrong I suppose, it just is. Like liver & onions. Looks & smells great to me, keep trying it, keep wanting to barf it up. Doesn't make it bad, just not right for my personal taste. ymmv etc

[@ryangraham7012]

Her show is nothing more than a ceremony ritual of her doing occult things on stage while the masses get put in trances and most likely possessed….

[@ofadetergentsud]

You could just trust Dave in this case. He's a professional live vocalist and generally a very passive person, so he wouldn't lie about this to start a fight. It's obvious to a singer when another singer is faking it.

[@SecretFriend]

Back in the late 70s I saw Queen on their News of the World US tour. During the semi-accapella section of Bohemian Rhapsody the stage lights went off entirely, and they rolled tape. They didn't mime, they just disappeared entirely. I believe everyone in the crowd understood what was going on. Twenty or thirty seconds later and the lights went back on and they rocked the house. Looking back on it now it seems odd that they did that, but I guess at that time they were not confident they could pull that section off live. At least they didn't pretend they were actually singing, I'll give them credit for that.

[@Lilah1754]

If you watch the BoRap video, you can see that it would be near impossible to do that part during a live concert. Yes, they left the stage and came back to finish the song. No miming or pretending.

[@JohnBoy-Ramone]

It was exactly yhe same at Slane Castle in '86...I borrowed someones' binoculars for a closer look and the only person on stage was an old guy with a Hoover.

[@jhackett9482]

I saw that live too. Great concert, brian soloing with the lazer lights beaming on him. I was amazed.

[@booboo8577]

It's impossible to do because every part was sang by Freddie on the LP. He harmonized with himself. That's why it's tape I bet.

[@BeamRider100]

I saw a documentary about them producing that song, that was their best vocal performances with the producer really squeezing on Roger and Freddy to eek the best out of them over many takes.

[@Mr.DarcyBW]

I feel that they should have to put up a disclaimer advising that they are lip syncing and why. You are awesome Phil.

[@MotherMantiss]

OOOF, not surprised, but you're gonna hear from her fans - they defend her like a mass of angry chihuahuas.

[@ConstantiaVerted]

I've heard of fans who went to the shows, paying a lot of money of course, and were disappointed because it was obvious to them that she was lipsyncing.

[@Caperhere]

I’m not a fan, but appreciate the role of “ childless cat lady “ she has taken recently, to back Kamala Harris in the current federal US election . I really hope you were not aware of the impact her fame is having on the US saving itself from something less than democracy when you chose to do this video at this time. If unaware of the fight for democracy,perhaps someone asked you to analyse Swift at this time.

[@teijaflink2226]

It should b obvious, she has way too weak voice to specially sing a whole show live. She seems like a very nice lady but I don't understand the crazy and obsessed fans this fairly mediocre singer has.

[@Mattened]

It's sort've a cult

[@KevinHallSurfing]

🤔😆😂😅

[@user-wl7dt1uw2e]

Here is the irony. The most honest singing in her concert is coming from the audience. They aren't faking it. So it's not all fake. In a funny sort of way. Trying to make fake, faker. That's the next frontier. She sounds great all time! All performances. Never sick. Never worn out. Just consistent. Like magic.

[@CajunConstitution57]

I'm a boomer that graduated from high school in the late 70's. Back then there was no autotune or other computer generated sounds. We didn't have computers or cellphones. Part of the wonder of music back then, is that when you were at a concert and hear live harmonies you knew, without dought, that it was authentic. Some of the best harmonizing bands from that era are; Three Dog Night, Beach Boys, Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young, Momas and the Popas, Queen, Eagles, ending with Simon and Garfunkel. I could list many more. The problem with the talent now is that you really don't know how talented they are until they sing something unplugged. There is way too much computer aided sound tech out there now. I'll not be surprised if the next great vocalist is an AI singing through a virtual body. If you're GenZ or GenA you really need to listen to live concerts of the bands I listed above. NONE of it is artificial.

[@carolynsanders3185]

I think ABBA should be added, their concerts were live vocals. Too bad they weren’t bigger in the US at that time.

[@uoabigaillevey]

AI is already coming for them.. just watched an AI song of Ozzy Osbourne .. the title was 'I hate AI' the irony of it all was enough for me to give it a listen.. and it was not half bad. Just imagine what it will be like in 5 or 10 years.

[@sandrachristiansen1404]

I remember coming home from concerts thinking, "that wasn't as good as the album"! This is why!

[@kayelle8005]

Unfortunately record companies are going back and remastering and adding this crappy auto tune into things that never needed it. They’ve done it to the bee gees and they’ll do it to Karen carpenter next, if they haven’t already. Keep your vinyl for that authentic human emotion.

[@jdhlsc169]

I said to a friend the other day that next will be AI singing to us and the peeps will lap it up like they do autotune.

[@KarmaKahn]

This is why I love Gaga. She is often out of breath and sometimes miss notes, but at least you know you get a live performance.

[@bartdrennon1764]

Elton John also.

[@Blahblahblahblahblahblahblah1]

She lipped her performance at the Olympics opening ceremony tho.

[@KarmaKahn]

@@Blahblahblahblahblahblahblah1 Incorrect. The act was pre-recorded due to poor weather conditions, but the performance was still recorded with live vocals.

[@mmemarino4916]

I have seen Lady Gaga perform live and in person and she has also lip-sync at least some of her performance - I think they all do it!

[@Skaarxiong1]

the only real live singing these days are, Vince Neil and Corey Feldman.

[@mdnorman0001]

I subscribed for one reason alone: the opening disclaimer. What balls this man has. Good for you sir; good for you.

[@helloheyo4ever]

@@mdnorman0001 it doesn’t take balls to make something up for clicks bait

[@lucakat9262]

​@helloheyo4ever I honestly don't think he's doing this for clicks. If you research a lot of singers nowadays, they are all doing pre recorded vocals. Cyndi Lauper still does live vocals but Dua Lipa is doing pre-recorded vocals. It's become the norm for most artists. The industry is pushing this not the artists. So I'm not saying it is their fault but still. It's a shame it's happening at all. But, Taylor fans can't take it if you say anything the least bit negative about her.

[@helloheyo4ever]

@ actually we can take it when it’s true but when it isn’t true we know it and it shows that those disparaging her are doing it to ride her famous coat tails - disparaging her gets him the clicks from all those haters that hate her for absolutely no reason and they love this kind of bullshhh because it feeds their fire to hate her because of her success - those of us that have followed Taylor from the beginning knows her integrity and talent and showmanship and we’re very confident if Taylor says she’s singing 🎵 she’s singing ;)

[@lucakat9262]

@@helloheyo4ever yes, I'm well aware of the parasocial relationship that Swifties have with their favorite artist. Even though it's not real. But also, I'm not trying to say Swift is a bad person per se. I honestly believe it's the industry and perhaps some of her own perfectionism that has her doing this. After all, since she's the big singing sensation at the moment, I'm sure she doesn't want to disappoint her audience. And yes, sure, she has made some mild mistakes during performances and yes, she is able to laugh them off with a crowd. But when it come to an entire 3 hour show, it would be very difficult to replicate that kind of singing every single night. But, whatever you want to believe. I believe in free speech so each to their own. But I really don't feel like he is trying to belittle your favorite artist.😖

[@jimmy56100]

​@helloheyo4ever Clearly you can't take it. That was a lot of denial

[@GaryWilson-m6t]

Last time I saw Jim Morrison and the doors his voice sounded like hell. Sang for a while left the stage and then he came back knowing we needed a full appearance.

[@PowerScissor]

I think we all know the answer to this before watching...

[@SuziQ.]

I almost didn’t click, because, 1) It’s obvious, and 2) I dig rock, not pop. I don’t think I’m going to watch this, unless I get *really* bored, and need to sleep.

[@teijaflink2226]

I would be more surprised if she didn't, I have always found her voice fairly weak and not that special, it would probably be very difficult for her to sing everything live. I think she should sing live though (at least some songs if she can't manage everything).

[@Ratzfourtyfour]

Yup. It's not music, it's a brand.

[@ralphditchburn1456]

Lawsuit coming

[@ivannovotny4552]

​@@Ratzfourtyfour- Usual

[@cpmf2112]

Even with definitive proof the "fans" will still accuse you of lying.

[@deepzepp4176]

Yup. Like a pure cult.

[@bbpyb]

Fans will not be confused by the facts.

[@cpmf2112]

@@bbpyb exactly why I put "fans" in quotes

[@Cautionary_Tale_Harris]

I mean...what word is "fan" shorthand for?

[@Mina-12128]

​​@@Anna-iq4yqher career is too huge to shorten the Eras tour

[@SillySatire]

Great work dude.👍

[@tx3851]

Call me old fashioned, but I used to go to gigs wanting each performance to be raw, different and imperfect....In those "imperfections" lay the feeling and uniqueness....

[@aneyesky]

Her crowds don’t care- but I’m glad it matters to us. Good job Fil

[@tonyolivieri3345]

Her bi-Polar crowd also doesn't seem to care that Taylor Swift suffers from mental health issues seeing that she is a woman in her early 30's who behaves like a 14 years old girl.........................real mentally fucked up stuff!!!

[@gordonause6956]

We don't care, actually. Went to Denver & Seattle. Headed to Toronto and Vancouver next. Love Taylor shows. The vibe is amazing. Pure joy. We get to sing and dance with each other. Wear sparkles and twirl and trade bracelets. Laugh and cry and scream. So cathartic. I'm 65.

[@tonyolivieri3345]

@@gordonause6956 Yikes! Sad to see there are too many people on this Channel who are mentally disturbed!

[@RomiVero]

​@@tonyolivieri3345I agree

[@SteveConkie-t6r]

I watched about 45 minutes of the tour video and I felt really saddened by it because Mr Swift does actually have a bit of talent. If she had been recording in the '70s, she would probably not have been big, but she would have probably met a few people to guide her, maybe spend some time with Joni Mitchell. She might have become a real artist. What she is now, is a Fully Corporatised Disney Property. And her fans don't even know the difference because they have never heard the alternative.

[@universalassociates6857]

So we are saying the only live vocals at many modern ‘live’ performances are the voices of the crowd?!

[@gorak9000]

If by "many", you mean "most" or "nearly all", then yes

[@farty81]

No, because plenty of what Taylor was singing was live. The surprise songs are 100% live. She had a track for the set list, which is pretty normal in a production this massive.

[@davidmurphy5647]

that is correct.

[@gorak9000]

@@farty81 from your username, aren't you a little old (and smelly) to be a swifty??

[@3395149634]

​@gorak9000 Plenty of artists still perform live, especially those that aren't A-list pop stars doing stadium tours

[@rutabega2039]

As the author of a series of software synthesis apps that utilized wavetable synthesis (i.e. synthesis based on digital sampling of real instruments and vocals) I've done quite a lot of detailed analysis of recorded audio. One thing Fil doesn't mention here is that you can often have two digital recordings of something that to the human ear sound absolutely identical, but when viewed at the level of individual samples you can see very pronounced and obvious differences (anybody can see this phenomenon for themselves by comparing an uncompressed digital recording of literally anything with the same recording compressed via a "lossless" algorithm and then uncompressed back to raw digital - no human ear can detect a difference but the samples look visible different). The fact that these recordings of "different" Taylor Swift live performances look absolutely identical (even with just pitch analysis software, not views of the raw samples themselves) is DAMNING. There is a 0% chance this is anything but lip-syncing.

[@skildude]

I sure hope her tickets don't say she's live in concert ELO got sued in the 1970's for putting prerecorded material as Live.

[@NunyaByness]

We went and saw Lindsey Sterling. Not only was she dancing and playing the fiddle, she was singing live. What a show! A true performer.

[@arkieologist]

Yes, exactly. Incredible talent! 👏🏻

[@jonathanctay7422]

And under-appreciated!! She should be getting 800-1000 dollars per ticket.

[@heathershay5260]

Phenomenal talent

[@maxsteiner1964]

Iv mention Aurora before. And when she gets really energetic, you can hear she run out of breath. Like the KEXP concert. I love that. She doesn't hide. This is what you get she says.

[@GhostlyEcheveria]

I'm going to see Aurora in a month and I'm so incredibly excited! I've seen Bjork live, and I think Aurora is going to be even more amazing. Aurora is a true singer.

[@maxsteiner1964]

@@GhostlyEcheveria You are in for a treat. She is the most unfake (I dont know if that is a word) human I'v ever met. She is something else that's for sure. I just love her.

[@GhostlyEcheveria]

@@maxsteiner1964 A dear friend of mine was lucky enough to interview Aurora in July at NOS Alive in Portugal. I had him slip Aurora a little note when he met her. Maybe I'll be lucky enough to meet her. One can hope! 😁

[@maxsteiner1964]

@@GhostlyEcheveria I'm only a friend of a friend of her. But I gonna tell you. If you meet her, you gonna melt.

[@hi_jjesse]

Yesss Aurora. Her authenticity is so refreshing. I've seen a lot of her performances from the recent tour here on KZbin and they were all so so good. Now I'm gonna get to see her live next year! Sorry, I'm just so excited!!

[@monitor4208]

She is just great marketing.

[@ryangraham7012]

Not even, she has sold her soul for where’ she’s at! People are just dumb sheep that are told what to like and not and swifts handlers tell The masses to like her and they shove her down people throats 24/7 through media,commercials, radio, movies…. That’s why shes famous not Because she’s talented or a good promoter.

[@dxfifa]

@@ryangraham7012 That is marketing lmao what a joker

[@DudeSilad]

She certainly is. She makes sure she is always in the media. She's a master of the game. I know one of her songs. Yet I know plenty about her love life

[@radar_radar]

@@ariluvrrit’s not conspiring to see through the bs mate that’s all.

[@marthag9321]

​​@@dxfifa😕❤he sounds like sour grapes🍇, I'm an old girl and I think she's great🎉🎉!

[@crackerborealis3101]

great video! i think ur point could have been made even stronger if u had analyzed two live performances of the same song from a different artist as a reference point, just to show what those differences and similarities SHOULD look like in the pitch monitoring software.

[@therrdon1841]

For me, I will never attend another "live concert." I showed this to my wife, who is a huge Taylor Swift fan, and she said that it wasn't a big deal. She said that a record producer she had watched had said everybody did it. I put it down to a sign of the times. Bring back the '70s.

[@loribrown9204]

@@therrdon1841 i applaud your wife’s dismissal of your gotcha moment! Taylor might use auto correct but not continuously throughout from song to song. I’m 65yrs old. Don’t bring back the 70’s. That music still belongs on my playlist. However, I prefer to follow our new songwriters, Taylor included

[@harryhanz1690]

@therrdon1841 You're whining about something that's been done since the 1950s

[@James_k59psn]

⁠@@harryhanz1690your missing the point clearly.

[@roar666]

I bet @P!nk doesn't mime... lots of singers and bands don't mime.... but then quite a few do.

[@chipgaasche4933]

@@loribrown9204 lori, you're musically clueless. It IS a "gotcha moment". taylor twit is a fraud.

[@rickfinsta2951]

Get this man into protective custody NOW.

[@coburgkid]

Love this comment!

[@stevenstewart782]

Video anyway Got no proof of where the audios came from claims are from certain nights but does does that mean he's Got 4 different Movie premiere With the other 3 doesn't really say where they're from For all we know we know For all we know we know he's 4 times 4 Cause He said himself they shouldn't match because of the crowd noise So why do they match that means he's playing the same audio That he himself has copied 4 times To use for this video he's faking the whole damn video in order to get engagement and we're all obliging him

[@TheSearchingSongwriter-o1w]

@@stevenstewart782 Are you Taylor Swift's lawyer?

[@SandraPokorneyCmonDude]

right? Fil is NOT suicidal.

[@darkstars-torpedoes-of-truth]

@@stevenstewart782 Dream on simp.

[@MusicHoldsTheSecret33]

This whole world is a scam. "See the glory Of the royal scam" - Steely Dan

[@DerekADempsey]

@@MusicHoldsTheSecret33 facts.

[@ichirofakename]

I wonder if Fagen mimes.

[@YtuserSumone-rl6sw]

You betcha!

[@krollpeter]

It is not anymore important what you are ... the only important thing is, what people believe you are.

[@MusicHoldsTheSecret33]

@@krollpeter "I'm a Loser. I'm a Loser. And I'm NOT what I appear to be" - John Lennon/The Beatles "Some kind of solitude is measured out in you. You THINIK you know me but you haven't got a Clue" - John Lennon/The Beatles (Hey Bulldog)

[@edwinbleau5334]

This is the first video I have seen of yours. Great video, I must say. I learned quite a bit. You definitely have a new sub!

[@maxblair3317]

Commenting for the algorithm. This need to blow up.

[@slojinPA]

NOBODY is going to her show expecting to experience pitch-perfect, flawless vocals. Few people will be surprised by this.

[@RaineStudio]

@@slojinPA I rather think they ARE. Because they have become so accustomed to artificially tuned singing.

[@kennyg1358]

Why would anyone care?

[@MusicManatee]

Haha do you think you’ve exposed the Illuminati or deep state? It’s entertainment and a show, bro 🤡

[@aomame2812]

Oh yeah

[@mddawson1]

I wonder how much of Taylor's voice the fans can hear live when surrounded by thousands of fans singing along?

[@MarieLehleitner]

It would depend on the stadium acoustics, but in my experience (and those of people who sat outside stadiums), you can easily hear her voice over the fans singing and screaming along. The fan videos might mislead people about this since phones are designed to pick up and amplify sounds closest to the phone, so you hear the person recording more than the concert on those. But then I also noticed her acoustics were significantly better than those of the two opening acts, who were not as popular. Most people were not even singing along to their songs, but I couldn't even make out most of the lyrics.

[@pamrogers5979]

i was surprised but I loved the fans singing most of all - it is a wave of song - you can lean into all those voices - so very beautiful: I sang my heart out

[@redstrat1234]

I'm an old guy, I don't really listen much to anything after the 90's. I listen to original versions (usually non remastered)of rock, pop, opera, classical, 30's-60's jazz, accapella, early country, bluegrass, lounge music, some soundtracks, showtunes etc. There's so much of this stuff, I can listen to absolutely non-auto tuned, non sampled music till I expire, which is fine by me.

[@loribrown9204]

@@redstrat1234 I’m an old gal who is also a swifty. I’m also old enough to recognize and appreciate all the same music that you do. I think with technology, we see more of the auto correct. I see it as a useful tool to use during a highly demanding 3-hr tour and I’m ok with that. That makes me mindful

[@elmolewis9123]

@@loribrown9204 This is not just about "autocorrect". This is about complete lip-syncing of the entire vocal, which is what she does.

[@loribrown9204]

@@elmolewis9123 No. Fil explored a small segment of her performance. That doesn’t mean she uses it all the time

[@leinonibishop9480]

@@loribrown9204 using it at all is a deal breaker.

[@324cmac]

Thank God for KZbin. So many young people are getting turned on to the great music of the 1960s-1990s.

[@rogerking7258]

I wonder what the legal position is if you've paid for tickets to a "live" performance and just get a mime show.

[@Kingcarparpeggio]

Potentially devastating I would think. Fraud, Deception, Trades Description ……goods not fit for purpose. I’m sure there must be enough there for a lawyer to get his teeth into. Just needs someone with the confidence and the money to take these cheats on.

[@stevecampbell1308]

A mime show is considered a live show..,. Not a live performance just a live show

[@Kevvinm]

Simple solution, tell the ticket buyer that it’s not a complete live show or do a complete live 2 hr show without the dancing.

[@RockVeteran]

It's never going to happen. Performers and record labels will never agree to such a disclaimer, nor will they agree to have a pitch correction disclaimer on physical and digital records.

[@MrSimondaniel3]

they don't need to. people are either oblivious & don't think about it , don't care, or are dumb.

[@adambelmont9660]

My friend's wife got mad at me for callig Taylor Swift incredibly average.

[@biancanagy3342]

Tell your friend I said you were right 😂 ( she is average) and over rated to .

[@whoooami2090]

I’d say she’s below average. Goes to show many stars were created and not really talented.

[@b_740]

Witchcraft hijacks peoples emotions, so it makes a lot of sense they react those ways.

[@marissavallejo503]

Actually you were being generous…your friend’s wife is a dingbat

[@Aceley27]

@@b_740 I've been thinking the same thing. Her and beyonce… and both blow up in the same way with the same crazy fans that seem to think these women are goddesses and can do no wrong. It’s super weird!!! Its idol worship pure and simple and to become an idol, Taylor Swift has to be participating!

[@maika2449]

The question is whether all of her show was miming, most of it, or only a part of it.

[@kerrisouth]

She mimes most of it. See my post about that. She IS singing, just silently. See above (or below).

[@williambenson]

Very brave, Fil. I don't think the trigger warning at the beginning of this video is going to protect your channel much. Best of luck 🤣

[@gigglybeast]

This video is just confirming the obvious. I don’t think it’s very brave to do that. Exposing Don Henley was a much better example of something that could be called brave because Don Henley is a sue-happy douche bag.

[@margitwes6495]

Fil needs a bodyguard!

[@musicalneptunian]

@@margitwes6495 That won't be enough. To protect him against the Swifties Hordes he needs...ALL OF US!

[@ev25zv]

@@musicalneptunian Lmao at you drama queens. Yeah, Swifties are going to ask mom for a ride after Girl Scouts to Fil's house so they can pull out their gats and smoke him, lmao.

[@thefirst9500]

He knew it was coming haha. Thankfully he seems to have a thick skin.

[@bencheshire]

For her fans you should have given an example of someone like Cindi Lauper who sings live without autotune on 4 different concerts.

[@wingsofpegasus]

I compared Cindi's and Dua Lipa's performances from Glastonbury earlier this year 🙂

[@SealofPerfection]

@@wingsofpegasus Dua Lipa fans still swear she was singing live in that performance. I laughed

[@breckhollis1089]

We are kind of talking apples and oranges here. Cyndi is going to sing live because she's a true diva. It's all about the voice. But her farewell tour setlist is only 16 songs. She blew up her voice when she was 25. At 71, with a long tour ahead of her, she's going to be very careful. Swift, on the other hand, is no diva. Not a bad singer, but that's not her main talent. She's doing hours long shows in a years long tour. Even at half Cyndi's age, I would be shocked if she actually sang every note.

[@internettoughguy]

Cindi Lauper made her career in and era before autotune was even invented. Knowing how to sing was a fundamental requirement to performing live shows.

[@SealofPerfection]

@@breckhollis1089 she's not doing anything anymore taxing than other bands haven't done for years. Journey used to play well over a hundred shows a year in the early 80s. 20+ HARD to sing songs per night. FAR more demanding on The Voice than Taylor Swift has ever attempted. Steve Perry sang every night, every note, in time and in tune. Van Halen did well over 100 shows in a 1986. Sammy Hagar saying spot on every night. While running around and moving a whole lot more than Taylor Swift ever thought about. Artist with Talent can do it. Others use crutches. The fact is, Taylor Swift really can't sing that well. If she was really singing live she would not get such good reviews. The excuse is, you can't dance around like she does and sing well. That's just an excuse. Taylor Swift only did 73 shows last year.

[@lizzaangelis3308]

Taylor swift without digital voice altering is naturally quite pitchy. Generally having wide range on a specific note. And that can be trained in a bit but generally you will still have a decent amount of fluctuations between different performances. Then the timing should never be spot on. Because if she was a fantastic performer she would have a dialogue with the spectators and exchanges both verbal and nonverbal and it’s these nonverbal ones. Like you see the crowd is into it and you run through the last verse and chorus an extra time. Or the chorus one extra time. Or hold a note longer in one performance than in a past one. Maybe the tempo goes up a bit. Or maybe it slows down. The point being is that you honestly can’t have it be identical time and time again. I don’t like going to a concert and then finding out that the live version isn’t any different than the recorded one.

[@cjcurcio]

Exactly! Thank you!

[@matthewrichard7187]

It's clear to me she's worked on her voice over the years,, and in the intimate close quarters songs she did was anything but pitchy. She had great control, breath support, and nuance. All the calling cards of someone who's put in the work with vocal coaches. So I have to disagree, just based on what I saw last night. Maybe she has pitchy nights. She's human. But last night wasnt' one of them. (I am of course not talking about the pieces with backing tracks, which as a musician I was fully aware of. Those were clearly songs they put production and choreography over vocal performance. The small scale stuff was all live and executed quite well in my humble opinion. )

[@MartimDuarte-c2r]

but she sometimes changes the lyrics and sometimes do a high not sometimes dont... I think some chorus she might mimic and not the intire show because at mine concerto she had a little problem with her voice its was quiet pitchy but i liked that

[@stevenstewart782]

There are some nights her voice will be a little scratchy on a couple of songs And there's quite a few times she literally stops singing To wipe her nose because she has a cold

[@whatacoincidance]

Great video, thank you! I've watched a hole concert movie and it seemed to me that Taylor had some live performances and also prerecorded ones. It is obvious, if you know, how miming and singing look like. But I mean, can you imagine singing live for 3.5 hours? And dancing? Personally I have 0 trouble with using prerecords.

[@darlahays2471]

Freddie Mercury managed to sound like same or better live than on studio recordings. He ran all over the stage for 2-3 hours, unless he was playing the piano. No ear piece, no auto tune just raw talent. And he had one of the best voices in music. Don't believe me? Scientists have done studies on his voice and vibrato. Hebhad a 4 octave could hit high notes that the human ears can not hear.

[@Lilah1754]

Ahh, my favorite singer! Abundance of raw, real talent ⭐️

[@darlahays2471]

@@Lilah1754 mine too, since I was 10 years old. And that is long time since I am older than dirt 😅

[@Lilah1754]

@@darlahays2471 I’m no spring chicken myself! 😂

[@MistyRoseRocks]

​@@darlahays2471me, too...ever since I first heard Killer Queen on the radio I was hooked.

[@TitanicHorseRacingLover]

That's what made him the G.O.A.T.

[@LambentOrt]

The disappointing thing about someone like Taylor Swift miming on her live shows is not that she shouldn't be able to get away with it, because a lot of performers do, but that it goes against everything that she purportedly stands for: chiefly, artistic integrity and emotional sincerity. That's what she has built her whole career on. If she's unable to be a real live performer while singing songs about her true feelings and thoughts, then she really is just a con artist. I don't like con artists, and I think people who allow themselves to be scammed by con artists are feeding and enabling the scam.

[@hunterfrederick2731]

Nah, the show is just a lot more than just the vocal performance. She is probably still singing, but they are playing the perfected audio through the sound system. So she is not miming, but she is using a track. A lot of artists do it, but Taylor is very famous so this video will get clicks. Other artists also do this. I won’t out them here, but also they could play some parts from the recording and some parts live. That’s also done

[@nichotto]

She’s not my taste but I thought she was an artist writing and singing her songs so hey ho. But now I find out there is a team of songwriters and producers, and now the whole miming and auto tuning. She’s the face of a very contrived successful product.

[@christopherallen9580]

Taylor Grift can do anything

[@booboo8577]

She was manufactured just like those old "boy bands" were. Welcome to the machine.

[@gregorytaylor9104]

In her Shake it Off video she pretends to fall over, as if she's just like one of her maladroit tween fans. Cynical.

[@GrymsArchive]

I'm old. Old enough to remember *The Before-Times* Before Lip-Syncing a "Live Show" Before *Ticketmaster* How sad indeed

[@SandraPokorneyCmonDude]

so sad.

[@thetweakjunkie1576]

Effin' rights man 💪 I'm remember standing in line in winter here in Canada (I'm in the cold part,lol) to buy a paper ticket (that you dare not loose) from a girl at a window booth . You'd look at that ticket everyday, counting the days to the show. Miss the 70s and 80s, freakin greatest music !!!

[@LairdDavidson]

Yes I can remember simply turning up at the door to buy a reasonably priced ticket to see completely live music. I used to go to a concert once a week on my meager teenage wages and the bands were so close you could see them without video feed.

[@larryjoseph1170]

Part of it is their egos and another part is the fans want to hear it just like it sounds on the album they purchased. I guess it's a performance that makes both sides happy. Even though that's basically what they're listening to at a concert ... taped audio.

[@WarEagleAtlanta]

Excellent analysis! Your video is being talked about on local radio in Atlanta. Although I've been a subscriber for awhile, hearing it mentioned twice on different stations drove me to drop in.