Winners & Losers of the 2024 Singapore Airshow

[@cobyexplanes]

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[@IamNiggler]

This company is a giant scam

[@enochsackey4295]

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[@IamNiggler]

@@enochsackey4295 Better hell is a scam

[@云梦丁氏]

Coby is racist we don’t steal planes like the white Coby

[@云梦丁氏]

Racist Coby

[@Ja_ck00]

You should really drop betterhelp as sponser after they illegally sold user data

[@squelchedotter]

Plus generally being a crap concept and crap company

[@Bobspineable]

Legally they can’t, sponsorships are often signed in advance and a have contract. They have to run it or be sued.

[@Ja_ck00]

@@Bobspineable Those contracts usually have stipulations to get out in the case of association becoming damaging. Even if he doesn't go that path he could just not renew the contract going forward.

[@drumswest5035]

I just bypass the adds...KZbinrs need to realize we can do that

[@woodduck2178]

The KZbinrs don't care they are still getting paid.​@@drumswest5035

[@steinwaldmadchen]

While A350 may got the headlight, it's A330NEO that won the most orders in Team A.

[@chaitanyarao5546]

That is good news, the A330Neo deserves more love from customers

[@magnustan841]

1 attended the airshow too and had a whale of a time. The highlight was getting to go aboard the Embraer E2 and get a sneak peak of what to expect when Scoot takes delivery this year. Sad our paths didn’t cross, but I hope you enjoyed your time in Singapore, Coby.

[@TomGD]

There is also a winner, which is the A330neo. Not a lot of orders placed for this jet, but with Vietjet placing an order for 20, at least it put more confidence to the A330neo family.

[@maitreyabhattacharya]

The A330neo was certainly a winner. It got 23 orders in the airshow which is big as the jet has not been selling much before especially in southeast asia (after AirAsia's cancellation of 60 units).

[@peter-world-traves]

737 has open door welcome policy 😬

[@fredharvey2720]

It has a door like the US has a border

[@JeffreyHAREWOOD-m5o]

The 45 787s for Thai were ordered in 2023 and included in Boeing's order total for 2023. This is not a new order. Coby should certainly know that.

[@ALV694]

I am surprised people are still buying Boeing after quality control scandal and dead witness

[@abreyu]

this is a pro boeing channel, what to expect?

[@gunhunter]

Flew on starlux from Macau to Taipei and back in 2020 before covid hit. Both flights were flawless. Absolutely amazing.

[@telmuun1221]

Fatal incident where people died are bit more than rocky start. Feels quite lightly brushing those lives away.

[@MajinOthinus]

That gorgeous German Airforce A-400M in the background tho 😍

[@Ultimatephaser]

0:16 i have seen that E2 with the same livery but orange instead of blue. this was at the Avalon airshow, Melbourne Australia.

[@tomstravels520]

Those Thai 787’s were originally ordered back in December, this was just an official signing

[@spacehunter2018]

Nooooo, the old intro has been so iconic. I can never get used to this new one

[@Randomvideos-zi7pe]

Embraer: Am i a joke to you?

[@davidpickford.]

Bombardier: First time?

[@renrx1]

I'm happy rolls is trying to improve. (great for my fav plane too which is the a350)

[@humbertofigueira]

thanks for sharing , nice video! what about Embraer ?

[@GeflyLW]

That's what I'm saying. What about Embraer?

[@steinwaldmadchen]

@@GeflyLW I don't think it get any orders.

[@LucasSanRFS]

​@@steinwaldmadchenthey got

[@steinwaldmadchen]

@@LucasSanRFS Not during this airshow.

[@nadilsonmarianosiqueira7277]

140 from AA

[@f0x4nn3]

Airbus really need to put 2 engine options for any aircraft they sell, both the A220 and A350 suffer from their single engine option.

[@steinwaldmadchen]

GE didn't want 35K to hurt sales of 77W, which GE90 had a monopoly. But an engine option only available to 359 is not attractive. Meanwhile CFM Leap is a heavier engine that isn't very suitable for smaller aircraft like A220 and E2. Also as long as the issues are fixed, GTF is a more efficient engine at EIS, and the gap is widened with the advantage package.

[@Koriolis]

Hope you enjoyed visiting my country. Thanks for the video!

[@hawktb9]

How did Embraer do at this show? There's an E2 E-195 behind you, and I'm curious as to whether or not it had drawn any interest?

[@chrissmith2114]

Not many jet engines can stand ingesting sand, the military jet engines in gulf war suffered massively from this problem wrecking them.

[@hardly.rivai_YT]

In summary, the biggest winner of the Singapore Air Show is... COMAC. 😮 The C919 is not as advanced as the A320neo or the 737 MAX. However, China wants to invest in this aircraft with a new home-grown engine and maturity through commercial operation and international certification. If the C919 can prove itself, airlines - including African carriers (some of which have ties to China) - will buy their aircraft, and COMAC will become a global player in the competitive aviation industry. This, couple with quality control issues and losing grip in the freight market, will leave Boeing executives nervous despite the 45x 787 order with Thai.

[@AvgeekRPLL]

Yeah even if its stats and efficiency doesnt compete much, you can tell their making actual effort to make an aircraft that would be reliable even using a CFM LEAP 1C like the Leap 1B on 737 max and Leap 1A on a320 neo.

[@myfyp2]

It is definitely interesting to see another player in the civilian airliner industry.

[@AleSpotsLPA]

I think the a330neo could have been a winner. Maybe a special mention or smth before ending. It took some juiciy orders

[@ThisisDevaan]

I doubt that the Max10/Max7 will pass legislation and FAA approval for at least a few months because the Max8 has safety concerns, the Airbus court case is now over and has been fixed, and the air show shows low demand for Boeing aircraft compared to Airbus

[@Kuricang31]

The one that has issues was the Max9, not 8 and the number of planes that were affected due to the safety concerns was very little as it only affected Max9 planes with plug-in doors only. I flew the Max jets with Air Malta on Thursday and there's no issue with it

[@Eruma_27]

@@Kuricang31yeah except that the MAX 8 is the same aircraft that took over 300 lifes already

[@jayeolabolaji5737]

Hi cody.Saying hi from NYC.At @2:22 .Air national guard Base 105.That my Unit!!!

[@samuelbarringer715]

I was wondering how the Embrear E2 jet family did at the Singapore Air Show?

[@VideoDude6475]

Scoot ordered 9 jets from them.

[@myfyp2]

@@VideoDude6475 Scoot ordered from Embraer way before the Singapore Air Show. The first delivery to Scoot is expected to take place in March 2024. This will be the first E2 in the SEA region.

[@Aurora-p7r]

Love the real time air show coverage. Keep it up!

[@Calebs_Aviation]

Great video although I think you missed two loosers. 1: The Embraer E2 program or just Embraer as a whole and 2: Singapore Airlines 🇸🇬 I know it may seem shocking or silly to say but at such a MAJOR airshow in the carrier’s home country and not placing A SINGLE order for a new jet type or adding to a fleet or order book seems very odd. 🤨 I fully expected Singapore Airlines to announce they’d order the 777-8F to replace their aging Singapore Cargo 747-400s. Additionally, I expected a big Singapore Airlines announcement for the 777X being that of the 777-8 & 777-9 as they fly A lot of 777-300ER jets that the 777-8 is a natural successor for and the 777-9 that is an excellent 747 replacement especially since they have a capacity mismatch just like some other former 747 operators who’ve ordered the 777-9! 😂 VERY ODD! 😳

[@steinwaldmadchen]

SIA was the launch customer of A350F, and ordered exactly 7. Unless something radical happens, it's very unlikely to order 777XF.

[@lzh4950]

SIA has also already ordered 20x 777Xes that were originally supposed to be delivered in 2022

[@resnica3557]

Didn't Boeing 787 just hit the headlines of some sort regarding to its ice/de-ice thing? Or, was it something else having to do with 787?

[@Evil.Totoro]

That’s quite a feat for Taiwan to support 3 international airlines, I wonder if China Airlines will ever rebrand, cause I have heard first hand people being hesitant to fly with them, not knowing they are actually a Taiwanese airline.

[@LH1xx]

The Western media has to stop their lies.

[@林振华-t4v]

😂They have lousy safty record. And aging fleet. They can rebrand all they want. But junk is junk.

[@w10-v4l]

It's called China airline because Taiwanese are Chinese.

[@Evil.Totoro]

@@w10-v4l you obviously have not met Taiwanese people to make that claim. The older generation may have said that, but the vast majority of the younger generation consider themselves Taiwanese now.

[@w10-v4l]

@@Evil.Totoro If their self identity can change in 10-15 years in the past, it also means they will also realize they are Chinese after China takes it over and re-educates them. The people living on the island are very easy to manipulate, even with their self identity. I doubt they will ever resist when China pulls the trigger to take it back.

[@s0ny3rick]

How much did Boeing pay for you to hype them up?

[@Wheninflight]

I hope Boeing is able to re-engine the 767. FedEx and UPS have their A300’s that will eventually need to be replaced, the -300’s easily able to. Getting a -200F back on the market would be a good option for several carriers.

[@DiscoveryRoad]

I think Airbus had enough with Rolls Royce and is definitely finding neo for A350. Just who.

[@oadka]

CFm Rise? 😄

[@smoketinytom]

So Airbus is losing orders because Rolls Royce has evaluated the actual cost of the engines and servicing... Leading to higher prices and customers not wanting to pay those higher prices, despite those same customers raising their prices for all their travellers citing Inflation that everyone is dealing with...

[@DrawnInk1]

So Airbus can make a profit at the expense of Rolls Royce engines.🤔

[@ThisisDevaan]

It’s good that Thai Airways is moving away from debt and bankruptcy in 2024.

[@howardshepherdson2925]

Great commentry Coby. Interesting take on RR influencing A350 sales.

[@icare7151]

When Pratt & Whitney gets their GTF bugs fixed and make higher thrust GTF engines Airbus will have better engine options.

[@yaoyichenvictoriasch7014]

How about Embraer? Scoot ordered several of the E2s

[@Kuricang31]

Those were ordered back in 2023. Same goes with THAI's order for the 787s

[@TheGbelcher]

It’s going to be awhile before I’m comfortable flying on a Chinese jet.

[@oskar6661]

You're not alone.

[@DCTag]

yup

[@derbagger22]

If it's not from Beijing, I'm not going.

[@FrewstonBooks]

Having travelled on China's incredibly well engineered high speed trains (I was able to stand a coin on its edge while doing 320 km/h), I will have no problem at all.

[@stc2828]

Chinese people feel the same 😂way

[@justina3554]

Love the videos. I hear people watch your videos on tik tok. And I yell Coby explanes. Keep em coming

[@thebaseballcow2024]

Best airline, best airport, great airshow. What does Singapore not have in aviation?

[@exercising1621]

Nope

[@DynoDaPlayer]

​@@cristianvrincianu9376 they have the a380 what are you talking about?!

[@thebaseballcow2024]

@@cristianvrincianu9376 Singapoor airlines does have A380s

[@stevesmoneypit6137]

They should dump 380s

[@DynoDaPlayer]

Bro deleted the comment nahhh

[@user-yt198]

GE and Airbus had talks between 2019-2021 for an alternative A350 engine, but they couldn't agree for some reason. So RR stayed the exclusive engine for A350 until 2030. Airbus needs to subsidize RR until that time. A350 program is very profitable, thus they have the margin to do that.

[@steinwaldmadchen]

GE has/had its own exclusive deals with Boeing for the GE90/9X, not sure if that limits what it can offer to Airbus. But Trent XWB is fine.

[@artrandy]

Airbus are selling the A350 around the world, it has full order books and both Airbus and RR are prospering. Why should Airbus 'bust a gut' to get GE onboard the programme, just to satisfy a few US airlines, who apart from Delta, are blinded by nationalism against buying both widebody airframe and engine from Europe, when there is an American alternative (despite the fact that Americans long ago maintained a preference for Japanese cars to their own)? Besides, even if that exclusive deal between Airbus and RR didn't exist, why would Airbus wish to rock the boat with Rolls, just as those UltraFan developments are being sidewise applied to existing Trent engines, especially perhaps the XWB-97 on the 350 1000? I wouldn't rule out Emirates buying the 1000 yet. With the economic rise of Asia, commercial aircraft can be a great success in the world without making much of a dent on the US market, and its principally US operators who want to buy GE. And whether the GEnx will be affected by the powdered metal problem, as warned, is something only time will tell, but maybe United need to firm up those A350 orders, as soon as, for insurance, incase GE powered B787s ever get grounded, and let's face it, United are never going to find enough excuses to buy the Trent 1000....... edit: gr

[@bringbackmd7579]

In case of the GE powered 787s ever get grounded ,like the Trent 1000's did; Excuse me Sir ; But your AB fanboyism is clearly shinning thru !!

[@cvt-4u267]

​​@@bringbackmd7579Another AB crybaby, if someone doesn't order his beloved A350 !! There are other options ART !!!

[@artrandy]

@@bringbackmd7579 If your reply is meant for me, say so buddy. The YT comment section is not difficult. And I didn't invent the powdered metal problem, and I didn't issue a warning about it in connection with GEnx engines either, so best Google your own facts before 'shooting the messenger".......

[@tynovel]

C919 also has orders from Gallop Air Brunei, which is not a chinese customer

[@myfyp2]

GallopAir is owned by a Chinese businessman though.

[@raymondetan7779]

Gallop Air Brunei was setup by Chinese businessman from China.

[@chadkleiner869]

MISS THE OLD COBY EXPLANES INTRO SONG!

[@spinmancorner7543]

I will never fly Boeing…

[@Cars-N-Jets]

Coby, please go to Airventure I know it's not a corporate airshow but I would love to see you go!

[@dksl9899]

So if Boeing ran away from the static display... Can we say that they BOLTED? 😜

[@smoketinytom]

So Airbus is losing orders because Rolls Royce has evaluated the actual cost of the engines and servicing... Leading to higher prices and customers not wanting to pay those higher prices, despite those same customers raising their prices for all their travellers citing Inflation that everyone is dealing with... If Airbus wants to secure those deals, perhaps they should evaluate the cost of losing those orders vs subsidizing their only engine provider for that airframe until RR either stabilises their finances or the Airbus company uses their negotiation skills to find an engine provider in Europe. Or they can reduce their profit margin by paying the subcontractor properly for the product they provide.

[@RADICALFLOAT95]

I actually genuinely agree with you and finally some one who l found in the comment section that actually has a functioning brain for once and you actually couldn't have said that actually any better.

[@smoketinytom]

Having worked with subcontractors in various civils and infrastructure projects, it's baffling that RR is even involved with the negotiations, it's an Airbus sales team with a RR rep to explain the engine and invitation to RR manufacturing if they have more specific questions. Even if there were different engine options, I would say that's Airbus and a SKU/option to tick, not inviting that company up to negotiate. TLDR: Silly of Airbus to not take total ownership. @@RADICALFLOAT95

[@gabrielv.2647]

Looks like in the first quarter of the 2024 season the 787 keeping boeing thriving. Once they figure out the 737-9 and maxes, as well the 777x it's going to bee huuuuge for Boeing.

[@derbagger22]

Not once, but if...

[@gabrielv.2647]

@@derbagger22 that's true, especially with the 737 maxes. But Emirates rolled the dice and made a huge order for the 777x. As I don't think Emirates is in the business of losing lol one of the best in the business.

[@delta_cosmic]

8:10 Then the loser is rolls royce, not the airbus a350. stop trying to frame it as if it was airbus's fault.

[@StefanWithTrains]

Well it is still a loser due to one of it's main components not being safe and keeping airlines from buying it.

[@f0x4nn3]

The aircraft it self is great it's the expensive fragile engines with a way too low duty cycle that ruins it.

[@steinwaldmadchen]

@@f0x4nn3 TXWB84 actually has a very solid operational record, that even Tim Clark and Al Baker said it's fine. The problem is engine pricing and service contracts that hampers 359 in winning against 787s. TXWB97 was criticised by Tim Clark, but that's on 35K.

[@derbagger22]

They lost orders from Thai airlines. They lost, doesn't matter who or why. I love Airbus planes but I don't get all emotionally wrecked if they lose to Boeing on an order...

[@steinwaldmadchen]

@@derbagger22 Actually yes. Thai is actually a Trent 1000 user, but this order is exclusively GENx. Its CEO also openly complained of RR's pricing. Meanwhile it acquired quite a number of A350s from lessors to satisfy its immediate need. That's why many including Coby speculate the engine is the deal breaker.

[@Roboseal2]

Pratt and Whitney made some good deals but until they fix their reliability issues, it should run much better for them.

[@林振华-t4v]

That is a huge mess to clean up. Its parent company RTX had set aside a good chunk of money to fix it.

[@Roboseal2]

Yeah because that's just what they neded right about now.@@林振华-t4v

[@EuropeanRailfanAlt]

Coby changed his intro music

[@mijnordna]

Noticed that, something a little more contemporary I would say…

[@jorger2020]

Didn't know that cargo's 777s had the 8 number on them, always knew them as 777Fs, but hey you learn something new everyday

[@DuyLeNguyen]

777F is the current baseline 777 freighter. 777-8F is the freighter version for the new 777X

[@DuyLeNguyen]

777F is the current baseline 777 freighter. 777-8F is the freighter version for the new 777X

[@FlightsimTP]

I might be going to Farnborough this year as well but tickets aren't up yet so yeh

[@sportsMike87]

Need more airlines to buy the a320S to put more pressure on Boeing

[@Kuricang31]

Please show me where exactly did the Boeing jets touch you inappropriately 😊

[@sge18992]

BRO CAN SOMEBODY PLS BUY AN EMBRAER THEY TOOK A LOOOOOOONG WAY TO SINGAPORE 😭😭😭

[@mittman9977]

Great job Coby! ooks like an awesome show!

[@rafaelwilks]

GE Aerospace always wins 😎 the Trent XWB is so overrated, with a dispatch reliability rate of just 99.91% (compared with the 99.98% dispatch reliability rate of the GEnx, which by the way has proven itself to have twice the reliability of the Trent 1000), and the GE9X is more efficient. Unlike any of those Trent engines, you won't have to worry about those hollow titanium fan blades spontaneously disintegrating on a GE90/GEnx (and GE90/GEnx reliability and durability has been proven to be superior to anything from RR as well).

[@leecrowley2101]

Hope you had a good time at the air show. Great video again, enjoyed it very much! Sunglasses make you look very sharp looking !

[@leecrowley2101]

You don't need a therapist, just quit getting stressed out so much and relax more Enjoy yourself and have more fun on your trips.Take care bro.Lee Crolley,lll Lexington,S.C.29073

[@Jam--_]

Did you drop the video on the flight from Singapore?😂

[@shansuleiman2567]

Should have added another loser, the aerial displays. Rather sad state. Only the Black Eagle from Korea display stood out. Missed the August 1st from China, Russian Knights and Al Fursan from UAE.

[@zungaloca]

Embraer better track than all

[@robertkosko1317]

COBY!!! Please Explain Why Thai Airways (or any other airline), Doesn’t Fly to the USA on an upcoming video. I Love Your Content!

[@MASPlanesMalaysianaviation]

i saw the a350 flying to singapore straight from toulouse,it was flying on my right,i was in my car,i could see it but the clouds didn't let me😢

[@wj40014]

tbh i hope the 777-9x gets a couple more years in development so boeing can sort out teething issues to avoid 737max all over again.

[@Frangus_]

Its not teething issues thats plaguing the 737Max. Its a systemic problem within Boeing it self. They are being run by money people instead of engineers which means profits over quality is all they care about. Just look to Intel for what happens when you have "business" people run the company. They get lazy, take their lead for granted and put on blinders to reality while the competition (AMD) passes them while giving them the two middle fingers.

[@wj40014]

@@Frangus_ i understand that. but until boeing sorts out its corporate issues, boeing should not rush the 777x. and i do agree that boeing made a shitty mistake when they let the MD accountants in

[@okay_then3337]

@@wj40014What do you mean rushed? The program is delayed about 5 years. It’s all but done now just waiting certification.

[@stevesmoneypit6137]

When it comes to freighter Boeing has no competition ✈️

[@steinwaldmadchen]

You've been not paying attention. A350F actually tookover 777XF in overall sales after Starlux's order. So Boeing not only has a competition, but currently losing it.

[@Ayden2008]

Since starlux, ordered the most a350f’s they should be the launch customer of the a350 freighter instead

[@hg6996]

I don't think that the lower price of a Boeing will matter if you don't find passengers who are willing to fly with these planes.

[@titob.yotokojr.9337]

The Boeing 787 is a great plane.

[@ThatAviationEnthusiast]

I JUST WENT THERE ON SUNDAY

[@dc5723]

Hands down, as of now Airbus has better planes than Boeing.

[@承達蔡-n7h]

Starlux appreciation ------>

[@boahneelassmal]

I still don't understand how people think the 787 and a350 are competing. The a350 is much larger than the 787. 777 and the a350 can be seen as competitors.

[@quemiraelbobo]

🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️

[@boahneelassmal]

@@quemiraelbobo 2 out of the 3 787 variants have less pax capacity than the 350 (only talking -900 here). despite the 787-10 has more pax capacity its mtow is 30lower than the 350. now, if we're talking -800 variant, okay, i can see that, but 2 of the 3 a350 base variants are much more similar in capacity to the 777 than the 787...

[@kojoharrison630]

Thanks for your amazing coverage 👍🏾. As World Events of the last 4 years clearly indicate, no one can tell the future or what lies just around the corner! Time and only time will tell what the Universe sprinkles on us. Hypothesising anything about the Aviation Industry is NOT healthy at all. However we wish everyone well, safety and inner peace to find a Balance because after all, these Manufacturers belong to Planet Earth and shouldn’t be pitched against each other 💫❤️🙏🏾

[@gaiasvlogs6410]

Embraer: it seems like the time has come to be in the chopping block

[@N9197U]

Imagine an A350-1000 with GE9xs

[@Roboseal2]

Not every new plane needs the biggest jet engine lol

[@bananabear009]

Bringing the C919 to airshow without selling one to international airline is a winner? What a joke!

[@chadb7694]

Can you please list all the airshows (dates and places) for 2024? TY

[@yoshiakiiidavid8915]

I love Boeing jet but they have been screwing up so bad lately

[@connorisleib]

ok but can we talk about how thai airways needs to clean their plane's exterior?

[@thgsr09]

What about the 220s? I haven't heard news about it for a while. Is it gonna grow bigger? How are the orders?

[@warmike]

the news about it from airlines are not good, some carriers are offloading them due to reliability issues

[@Kuricang31]

EgyptAir and Korean Air will retire them completely in near future

[@SAY_NO_TO_R151]

I went for the airshow

[@Lime_tree_mapping-ie9ot9qy9p]

Airbus somehow won and lost

[@steinwaldmadchen]

A330NEO got 23 new orders and a new customer onboard. I guess Airbus is reasonable satisfied with that.

[@Lime_tree_mapping-ie9ot9qy9p]

@@steinwaldmadchen yeah

[@bryanwozniak8861]

I don't know if the Boeing is the winner! Wait until they fail to fulfil the customer orders and then they switch to AirBus!

[@lost4468yt]

you a330neo would be da bell of da ball

[@richardwilcock2942]

Surely the Rolls Royce Trent issue is durability not reliablity!

[@cvt-4u267]

I think the 2 go hand in hand ..geez..

[@Deltadavid1572]

What is everyone thoughts on the Hawaiian and Alaska Airlines Merger

[@RackNext]

What happened with E2?

[@ilovetotri23]

Very cool!

[@clarencebenjaminlim]

A jacket in Singapore? You must be drenched.

[@myfyp2]

Under the hot sun and humid weather. 💦

[@huzaimighazi9979]

Boeing is attending the Routes Asia 2024 in Langkawi rather… FYI

[@bharathsriraman9427]

What happened to embraer E2

[@RunehawKnight]

Like this if you despise China-made planes

[@fredharvey2720]

FedEx is still flying DC10/MD11, aren't they?

[@victorkeck]

We will all suffer the consequences of the Boeing suffering and the Airbus profits-run... It is time to see if new investors come to light for Boeing because if not, in 10 years Boeing will be 25 years behind Airbus.

[@Trex-cx5zq]

Amazing

[@AnA320Fan]

Why do we have the same first name and the same passion (aviation)

[@laksi0505]

what about Embraer ?

[@coolmasterztv3088]

Probably A350

[@sejhnly]

Airbus and Boeing won't lose any orders to Comac for a while imo... The regulations are just getting stricter, fuel economy will just be more important, and all of this, while the Comac is still not even as fuel efficient as it competitors that were developed way earlier. There is a lot of catching up to do for Comac, and regulatory bodies like the FAA and EASA to convince first.

[@steinwaldmadchen]

In pure fuel economy terms I don't think C919 would be that far behind, as long as the LEAP 1C is available. Just that homegrown CJ1000A is nowhere close in efficiency and more importantly reliability. Comac's prime targets should be state owned domestic carriers as well as so-called Global South countries I guess. But first world countries would be difficult, not just technical but also political.

[@oskar6661]

Keep in mind, COMAC (like all large Chinese business entitities) is massively subsidized by the state. This means the Chinese government can lean on smaller countries to do business with them (their influence is massive in the region, often at the cost of the smaller country - of course). COMAC sales can become part of larger international business deals/relations, etc. "Hey, we'll build you a new X...oh by the way, your airlines should consider COMAC planes...", etc. I'd imagine COMAC will eventually be popular in the pacific region, even if we see disasters like we do in Chinese construction and other industries.

[@chris22capt]

​@@steinwaldmadchen it's not only the engine that matters. The aerodynamic plays a big part. If it has quiet a lot drag, which has been reported, the engine will end up burning more fuel compared to its competitor just to sustain the flight. For now, it's estimated the fuel economy of C919 is same as the A320ceo due to its aerodynamic.

[@stc2828]

@@chris22captit’s easy to copy aerodynamics, not easy to copy the engine

[@kidchef42]

team who love a350