Wipe Out Workplace Bullying: How HR Can Make It Happen With Gary Namie And David Yamada (#36)

[@Lynski94]

Its all about POWER AND CONTROL .. Period!

[@kpf2014]

Power and control tactics are abuse tactics and create dis-ease - emotionally, physically, clinically in workplaces, domestic- homes, and everywhere. It is systemic and will eventually be the downfall of a company, family, church, “system”. The people who create unhealthy environments are at fault for the crumbling of a system. This is why this behavior has been studied and needs to have harsh consequences for.

[@Lynski94]

If you have a bad vibe about your job best choice is to run towards the exit soon as fast as you can. I didnt do that and endured over 7 years of bullying and narcissistic abuse. My belief is that many were involved including upper management in the scheme as well as organized stalking of the targets. Thank you Dr Namie for exposing this abuse of power by employers towards TIs

[@mikejones9906]

The higher ups are powerless due to workplace laws. These people are very well versed in workplace law and they secretly document everything on everyone. The higher ups don't get rid of them in fear of lawsuits and by the time they figure it out, it's too late, they've already been mirrored by the Narc. Of course, they can't legally tell you all of this but that's what's going on. It honestly does seem like they're all in on it but it's usually just an individual or a few people that are masterminding everything.

[@Lynski94]

HR has no power over a target reporting abuse. Targets are never believed, NEVER. coworkers see it and dont report it out of fear they will be NEXT.

[@angelwishes3213]

some truth... all of this has been unconscionable and a Twilight Zone especially capable of extending it beyond the workplace walls into community mobbings. basically, waging literal war (warfare and defense industry) on an innocent single mom.

[@theworkplaceabuseexperts9484]

WINSTON CHURCHILL ONCE SAID THAT AN APPEASER WAS SOMEONE WHO FEEDS A CROCODILE IN HOPES IT WILL EAT THEM LAST. HE DIDN'T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE CHAMBERLAIN DID. THAT'S WHY I AM HERE - INGVAR FUKNARK

[@really5453]

Ironically they don't know that they will be next if the bully runs out of new targets

[@PaoloMarinelli-sl2xu]

In hierarcal and close society the mobbing, bulling and so on is accepted, but this kind of abuse is unacceptable.

[@weirdwolf888]

@@Lynski94 so true! I worked in the lower to medium ranks in HR and saw repeatedly how upper HR would ALWAYS support management… even when bad for the business.

[@rubberbiscuit99]

Disordered people are not held accountable for bullying in the workplace. Disordered people are obsessed with power and control, and they will always deny what they do and double down. Disordered bullies do not change. Corporate "leaders" who tolerate and/or enable these people's dysfunctional and destructive conduct are responsible to repair the problem. I guess too many of them are themselves bullies, or see bullying as normal, because things have not changed. Thank you for bringing this issue to the light.

[@Lynski94]

When a male supervisor pounds his fists onto his desk while berrating the target

[@Canuckbelgo]

"Male" only ? Ohhhh no.

[@theworkplaceabuseexperts9484]

CORNER #1 - ALL WORKPLACE ABUSE STEMS FROM PSYCHOLOGICALLY DISORDERED, NARCISSISTIC, EMOTIONALLY STUPID AND DISREGULATED CLUSTER B INDIVIDUALS.

[@taylornicole1974]

46:38 HR is to protect the company. They don’t care about us.

[@kpf2014]

Short sighted thinking and unfortunately- their bottom line is all that counts. And when health insurance premiums go up from people calling out due to illness that eventually manifests from these toxic environments. Many workplace/family/systems bullies are covert and manipulative and hard to detect.

[@OK-wb1dy]

I can understand it would be difficult to convince HR that you were bullied, but can never understand when your closest relatives don’t believe that you were bullied at work.

[@dorijoe]

What a f* betrayal. They might be your closest relatives but they are not worthy of your trust. We are living in a society of enablers. Turns my stomach.

[@BrandyYoutube99]

Omg my relatives know the bully and don’t believe me.. I didn’t know the bully was like this til I worked with them either

[@OK-wb1dy]

“… an individual fouling up the work process…” is bullying… A great description

[@robertmendrik4120]

A lying bully manipulates the rest. He looks like such a good employee . Removing the target is usually the easiest way to solve the tension. Until the next target is put to shame.. and the cycle repeats... Target can join the bully, or ignore it. Result is the same. Leave the situation, despite being there to add to the organisation. Leave with dignity while you can ..

[@allkindsamusicchick]

Yes, removing the target...is exactly what they want most. It's personal.

[@Lynski94]

If a supervisor can prevent his team from receiving a qtrly bonus he will get his bonus!! not fair yet its true!

[@colleenpelliccia-lavin801]

Bullying by the CEO and HR leader working as a destructive team has been so devastating.

[@marinagarcia8673]

I am dealing with this right now. I'm crying just listening.

[@theworkplaceabuseexperts9484]

LET ME HELP

[@shelleycundy4667]

What do you do when I am the supervisor and at one time only ran 2nd with my bully as crew chief. Im getting bullied by him and when hes off its just a relaxed place hes always watching and hates that i got in this position however there union. so they can say and do what they want. I said something and all I here is well that is who he is and don't want worry about it! What? It affects my performance and emotion. This person doesn't like himself ​@theworkplaceabuseexperts9484

[@Corina-dq2my]

He is absolutely brilliant on this scheme. He nailed it, the bullies games.

[@helenewebster-sisk2407]

Yes, PTSD-ANXIETY trauma, Chronic Depression, and mental debilitated from PRL'S Legal Counsel and Upper Management, HR etc.

[@OK-wb1dy]

15:00 Talking about documentable harm to the mission of the organisation - I once worked in a section of a government service provider department, where the boss created work for herself and the section, by stretching 3 months of report writing to eternity. All that happened in the section was gossip, section members pandering to the section head’s narcissism and statistics manufacturing. The point I’m trying to make here is that HR can easily be duped by ‘manufactured’ statistics. The bully says “… There you go. I and my section have fulfilled and surpassed the mission of the organisation…”. And the bully even gets a bonus.

[@amyoneelse]

My boss is my bully and trolls me at work to constantly demean me and put pressure on me.

[@weirdwolf888]

Hmmm. I’ve been bullied before (in work, once before; and in private life)… and it affected my health badly - physically and emotional. I am now being bullied again in work. And I’m not going to let it get any further, it’s already affecting me, but I will not let it get to that same stage - but that doesn’t mean it’s not bullying, just because this time I’m not willing to let it damage my health like that. Bullying is bullying regardless of the ‘outcome’

[@dorijoe]

and how are you creating a different outcome, may I ask?

[@weirdwolf888]

@@dorijoe bullies don’t change, bullying workplaces that accept a bullying culture also don’t change - this time I’m accepting that more quickly, and leaving. I’ve left now, but I found going grey rock and interacting with the bullies as little as possible, rather than trying to change things (although it took me a while to do that) conserved my energy. I also took screen shots of all the online bullying, and compiled it all at the end of my time there. Filled out a damning exit interview. Focused my life forward and away from them. But regardless of the outcome, the bullying was still bullying.

[@weirdwolf888]

@@dorijoe ps: I used to work in HR too (10 years) and know that once bullying is in the culture, it’s almost impossible to change. That’s not me being defeatist or weak, I battled and battled the first time around, and it ruined my life, for nothing, no change in the business.

[@dorijoe]

@@weirdwolf888 I quit today.

[@dorijoe]

@@weirdwolf888 Thx for responding.

[@Lynski94]

The bully will ask you to come into his ofc close the door so he can proceed to berrate the ti while pounding fists onto his desk. Then the ti has to go back to work moments after as if nothing happened.

[@legofrogo3346]

I was subjected to some of the most humiliating gang harassment in any workplace. It was brutal and HR always seemed to be against me and wanted nothing to do with even listening to my side of the story. For whatever reason, They think its totally logical for one person minding his own business, working on the same floor every day is a threat to 30 plus employees lol. I stuck out for productivity, but shouldn't people value diversity and intellectually different individuals? In my case, I was nothing but a pest. I can't link to my post on linkedin as youtube continues to delete any hints of a reference. I will try this one last time. Link is in my profile under description if anyone cares to read.

[@BrandyYoutube99]

Honestly as a 40 year old, you’re going to run into this at some point. It’s happened to me numerous times.. once so bad I walked out, I don’t regret that I just wish I had started looking for a job at the first sign instead of trying to suffer through it.. it prob won’t get any better and it’s always best to leave in my experience.

[@OK-wb1dy]

Documentable harm on Productivity is the hook that HR can use and if they’re not using that reason, it means they’re prioritising personal politics or personal relationships priority and subordinating the work itself.

[@drewbart1886]

HR protects the management hierarchy. Who do you think enables this to continue?

[@helenewebster-sisk2407]

Pattern and Practices- yes!

[@helenewebster-sisk2407]

Workplace abuse and bullies are also tormented patients in the hospitasl by doctors, nurses, and cna's. Iatrogenic's Premeditated Malfeasance manipulated Malpractices, Rico Racketeering Schemes and Death-Murdered, Violent Crimes Personal Injuries, and False Imprisonment,etc. I

[@Moonisrealtho]

How does this channel have only 400 subscribers.... Good information

[@tahwsisiht123]

6:31 shocked by the research 8:55 causing harm 9:28 from anxiety, ptsd, etc... 13:03 Initially, it is called mobbing. 26:00 for personal gain 27:40 maybe to grow the company? 28:15 severe personality disorder (narcissism, psychopathy, etc.) 29:25 30:30 Indifference or rewarding leadership 31:20 other people don't see it 32:20 "how dare you expose me" 33:58 What get you there? Years of reinforcement. Having this conduct positively reinforced through Indifference or promotion. 35:10 if someone is not at the severe end, it may help. Certain pathologies are too dangerous and only expose their environment for more abuse. *The abused have to be priority. Then address the abuser.* 46:42 51:42 !!!!!!! (Often people don't understand domestic violence well, but it is a start.) *Talking. Not silence.*

[@lanchin7590]

I just finished watching this video. I am a victim of what I just listening to. How can I get help from all of you guys? Thank you

[@bobjimenez4464]

Thank You Very Much

[@elisabethcooney6595]

Thank you for this video

[@Lynski94]

6'4" tall male supervisor berrating - displaying extreme anger towards a TI who is 5'4" tall--screaming mimi pounding fists onto his desk while yelling to where the TI is crying tears

[@allkindsamusicchick]

27:10 and forward. David is correlating economic down-times to bullying. I do believe that economic down-times attribute to 'some' bullying, which would come from upper- management, I have endured that also...... however, most of the bullying that I have been subjected to..... was just fiber to the fabric...of that organization....in which...the higher-ups.... would not have had a clue. Those who are targeted...often...do not speak up...unless spoken to. They never throw the first punch. They just want it to go away....because it is harmful, both physically, and psychologically. One can only take so much....until they are truly affected by this swashbuckling. I can't imagine wanting to hurt another....for sport. There are those, however, who relish that participation.

[@angelwishes3213]

Some TRUTH in a very deceptive and psychotic phenomenon

[@elisabethcooney6595]

Who can we reach out to if we know someone who is clearly a target of workplace harassment, bullying, cyberstalking and physical harm???

[@ChristineFilak]

Yes, went to human resources. She said when she hires people in she doesn't know them or where they worked before. And when I told the company that there was major issues, they said they would transfer me. After three weeks , they said they couldn't find a different place in the company, so I put my two weeks in A minute later she said, we are letting you go. I said, no i just put my two weeks in. Ypu drug this out for almost a month. Either way, I was told by many that worked there, the management and the store was a joke. Sad for the ones who stay there. Sad

[@antilaw9911]

You don't have to put 2 weeks or anytime in. Never do that. Don't ever let them know.

[@helenewebster-sisk2407]

It was racial discrimination for me because Blyth Stevenson not only called me racial slurs but also treated me as such: N-Word, stupid, ignorant, crazy, black, and Mismatched." I was the top Sales person for the short time period even though Blyth REFUSED TO provide training. Set up to fail.

[@really5453]

Happened in my pre-sales position too. White girls club

[@Lynski94]

My credit card came up missing snd my former employer and we were not provided with lockers for our belongings where as my purse had been rifled through, items were stolen out of my purse, my credit card was stolen out of my jacket pocket as well.

[@bronzemv4440]

My HR is a flying monkey now where I work.

[@yangshifen9778]

Thanks very much for this video. Why am I as the victim of bully asked by Hr to sign my complaints statements before they proceed to investigation ?

[@Cobra427Veight]

Not sure about that , but if your country has mediation, don't fall for the pathetic buy off $ amount of money , and sign here and zip your mouth .

[@WBI]

From Gary Namie ... HR does not want to grant you anonymity. This, of course, ensures retaliation by perpetrators and allies. Never forget that HR is a management support function, even if they prefer to posture themselves as employee advocates. Winning formal complaints is nearly impossible. Isn't it odd that HR investigates? They serve as judge and jury. HR is not neutral or a disinterested party. They are management!

[@theworkplaceabuseexperts9484]

@@WBI -RETALIATION IS AS SURE AS THE LAW OF GRAVITY WITH THESE SADISTIC, NARCISSISTIC, ABUSIVE, CLUSTER B, DARK TETRAD EVIL HATEFUL, SPITEFUL CRAP FOR BRAINS. YOU KNOW IT. I KNOW IT. - INGVAR K. FUKNARK

[@agak61]

Great talk ! Thank you

[@daveyy3804]

HR is allowing it even helping it so forget it

[@Lynski94]

I attempted to report the abuse and the gaslighter screaming mimi bully and my grieveience was ignored

[@theworkplaceabuseexperts9484]

"SCREAMING MIMI" I SEE YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH DR. NAMIES TERMS. VERY GOOD.

[@ZackRandolph-i7q]

13 years I left to be happy and I lost everything homeless boss and his son decided to punish me by other companies calling and them saying nasty but professional way that I'm not a good work person etc and I've been trying to find a lawyer to take my case this company has ruined my life and I even tried to ask for a my job back nothing yet ive seen and heard this company talk nasty things about people the fire than they have hierd them back the boss has verbal singled me out thrown stuff at me I have a Case I need help I've had people say I'm hierd next day I know due to theres only the company on my resume they contacted them and they say stuff professional to punish me and it's worked I can't get a job my vehicles repod eviction homeless help

[@OK-wb1dy]

Putting personal politics and personal relationships ahead of work / accomplishment of the organisation’s mission, is seen as more important by those who bully. I used to have a bully boss who used to believe and preach that putting personal politics and personal relationships shows your experience and ‘common sense’. ( common sense according to the bully boss)

[@gregoryforrest8970]

What do you think of fake HR personell? Been working for and organization for a while now learned recently that no one at this organization has any real HR skills, when resumes come in HR doesn't do interviews instead gives the resumes to the biggest most prejudice bully racist on the floor there are a number of them at this organization disturbing so much for HR. This organization is highly toxic work place anyone that is actually a high performer get slapped perpetually, there by inspiring most to well tone it down and let what needs to get done get undone day by day. So stupid also this organization hires completely incompetent managers who has zero knowledge of the position they were hired to do. And you wonder how such and organization can make money?

[@EricMHowardII-yh1rn]

Bullying rules need to be clear for understanding that this sort of nonsense will not be tolerated . Inside company x

[@OK-wb1dy]

12:00 HR can’t do much.

[@livesolarge]

What if the bully is the HR business partner?

[@allkindsamusicchick]

Bullying?? Not my first rodeo, but yet....always...shocking. Those of us that allow it to continue...only do so...because...there are bills to pay...as well as new skills to acquire. At this juncture...I feel pretty worn down...from the treatment I've received for the last 3 years, as well as knowing...that I must venture forth...and seek employment elsewhere. There is no resting ground...when bullying is allowed. There's no sense in addressing it to upper management. I have zero faith...that anything would truly be done about it...without further retaliation. I'm finding that social, and emotional intelligence....are pretty near next to nil in the workplace. Luckily...there are at least a few...from workplace to workplace...that are respectful in general. Still....it is a major drag! The ways in which I've been treated...and spoken to...by the upbraiding brigade....are truly profound.

[@dorijoe]

It absolutely should be zero tolerance policy against bullies. People with personality disorders lack the ability to self reflect therefore evolve as humans. We have profoundly misunderstood what compassion is in the West. We must safeguard our spaces. In Buddhism there are protective spirits whose role is to keep the bullies out. Bullies will only learn, if ever, through very firm boundaries. We are so mistaken about this, it drives me mad. Please dig deeper into Buddhism to learn more about compassion.

[@broco6608]

Why is the legislation only for the most serious of cases? And, why can't the laws be based on the level of offense and the level of trauma?

[@davidyamada483]

From David Yamada, HWB author: The Healthy Workplace Bill is designed to provide redress for the classic instances of workplace bullying, i.e., targeted abuse that causes physical and/or psychological impairment, the latter of which would certainly include psychological trauma. In its own way, the HWB does indeed take into levels of bullying and accompanying harms, because those factors would affect the amount of damages that could be secured. This includes the possibility of emotional distress damages and punitive damages if the behavior is especially egregious, the employer is ignoring or defending the abuse, and/or the harm is significant.

[@Corina-dq2my]

It bothers me, personally, that a person has to be in a protected class to have any possible recourse. If someone is robbed, do the police say, "Well, was is due to your religious beliefs? Because otherwise we can't help you, sir."

[@taylornicole1974]

What happens when it’s seen in black and white but never acknowledged to establish change ?

[@Lynski94]

Bully will try to communicate that it was all of the targets fault

[@angelwishes3213]

sure you are not receiving corrupt info in support of workplace bullying and mobbings in or to do a DARVO (deny, attack, amd reverse vicim and offender)?

[@Lynski94]

Have you ever done any research on the subject of Organized stalking its all part of covert office bullying. Let me how that research pans out.

[@josiestaunton6920]

And the manager are worst at the bullying andbi have to say I worked for a care home and when we worked the night shift reported the bullying the house we worked was so bad bulling the night staff was disgusting to say the.least even the owner was a bully

[@dorijoe]

It's unacceptable that workers who are targeted are the ones who have to look for another job. I had left workplaces because of bullying and now I am being mobbed again. Now I expect bullying at every workplace. Is neuro-diversity protected characteristics?

[@Lynski94]

The screaming mimi supervisor pound fists onto his desk lying to employees or better yet the male bully is great at gaslighting tactics on the regular basis towards his targets, you can best bet your targets are aware the guy is a provebial puppet for upper mgt. They are laughing at him around the conference table at the end of the day.

[@marinagarcia8673]

The organization's findings that there is no Harrasment. It's a personality conflict. The bully and I are contractors for the government. We are the only ones on site. We have different supervisors. We work in Texas, they are in Maryland. Very little oversight. I'm going to quit.

[@beezee7691]

it's a crime

[@honesty777]

Arizona eeoc doesn't help.DONT BOTHER

[@Lynski94]

How bout a Mgr interrupting another Mgr for the purpose of wasting valuable time. When that indidivual should be spending time improving the telesales team not BSing with the CS mgr about crap that does not make the sales numbers increase for the team. These bully types get their mgr bonus while their team gets the shaft. Meanwhile the team did all of the work not the bully mgr. Its a strategy for the target to pay the ultimate price. Basically the target was set up for all of the abuse from the start.

[@Lynski94]

@catherinechristian4142 --evidently you have not been listening to the entire podcast--dont reference any one on this feed as a phony--you dont know the TIs experiences at their workplace--peace be with you.

[@Soulcritic]

Make stop whining great again!

[@amyoneelse]

You have said nothing useful for anyone. Please speak to the fallout the legality specifically on either person. Speak to what the person should do in response can they leave work can they apply for mental health leave and be paid. So many untapped resources that was missed here. My work place bulky is my boss. What is my position to file with HR in documentation paper trail Is this helpful? You are all just speaking to the dynamic without the fall out and resources used to counter and help Yourself

[@dianadattilo7558]

Music is awful

[@helenewebster-sisk2407]

I just wanted the outrageous bullied behavior from Blyth and Monica to stop! ✋️ 🫸