WISC V - Calculating Index Scores

[@nectanbo]

Thank you so much for this detailed analysis and explanation. I'm a trainee clinical psychologist in the UK scoring my first WISC and this video was super helpful!

[@simplydee2567]

Thank you for explaining!

[@athenasastrologic703]

Thanks you much for explaining this so clearly...wish they included examples like this in the manual

[@explainingdyslexia]

Glad I was of help. Yes, the manual takes a very limited view of what measures assess. Perhaps they do that so they then limit offending anyone with a particular theoretical perspective. I work from a Information Processing framework informed by biology.

[@tammyharvey5551]

This was a very informative video! Thank you. Is there more information you can offer about the Confidence Interval? I am still uncertain about this term and its use.

[@explainingdyslexia]

We did provide a video on confidence intervals.

[@mahimasurve5153]

Please upload other clinical psychological tests scoring

[@TheDragonballboy]

Literally saved me for my assignment

[@explainingdyslexia]

Glad we could be of help!

[@zxtremedemon]

2:00 i once tried to sneakily look at the paper and my tester got mad and took the paper and hid it. Im going to know my score in about 1 day.

[@zxtremedemon]

By the way, this video was really helpful!

[@explainingdyslexia]

Hi, Glad this was helpful. You viewing the protocol (the page they were writing on) could invalidate the results - hence why it was moved out of your line of sight. It should not have been visible to you anyway.

[@zxtremedemon]

I just got my test score back, i got 147!@@explainingdyslexia

[@nextgensteve2197]

How do I score raw score for each subject?

[@explainingdyslexia]

You would have to look at the protocol which was used to administer the test. If you are a parent, you can ask the district to look at the protocol under Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA). You would count the total number of points scored in the column and check that that number is the same on the from of the protocol. Unfortunately, you won't be able to convert the score as the manuals are under copywriter protection, but it can let you check to see that the math is right.

[@nextgensteve2197]

Where do you download the protocol

[@explainingdyslexia]

I can set up a link for the cover page, but can't send the protocol because of copyright issues. @@nextgensteve2197

[@nextgensteve2197]

Please send me the cover page

[@explainingdyslexia]

@@nextgensteve2197 It has been posted on our website! sites.google.com/explanationsld.com/explaining-dyslexia/home

[@explainingdyslexia]

We will work on this for our next video! Can you give us the grade range of the student?

[@richardcookie1811]

10 years

[@beyzatophan379]

Do you guys have a recomendation draft for subtests that are needed to be proven? For report purposes. If you guys have it can you please share with me?

[@explainingdyslexia]

I'm not sure I understand your question. What do you mean "proven?"

[@beyzatophan379]

@@explainingdyslexia sorry i made a typo. I meant improved.

[@beyzatophan379]

@@explainingdyslexia like if a child has a low score on Verbal Comprehension Index what kind of things he/she should do.

[@explainingdyslexia]

OK, still confused. Are you asking about subtests to be improved, descriptions of subtests? tests that are typically scored poorly? @@beyzatophan379

[@beyzatophan379]

@@explainingdyslexia as a psychologist you will give some recommendations for the child. Like if he/she got a low score on a cluster of wisc4, you will give some tricks like you can do x to improve that low skill. Dont you guys do that? For example mostly we give puzzle homeworks for a child who has low score on perceptual reasoning. I am asking that.

[@CHICKPEAPIE]

In the UK at least, these Wechlser scales are closed access assessments that can only be administered and clinically interpreted by a qualified clinical, forensic, neuro or educational psychologists OR by an assistant /trainee psychologists under their supervision. Is one of the speakers an EP? If so, apologies, I missed this. It is not permitted for teachers or even psychiatrists to do these assessments so a little concerned that teachers and other educational specialists are commenting on this as experts. Maybe it is an open assessment in the US...

[@explainingdyslexia]

HI, I'm trained in the administration and scoring of IQ tests and other neuropsychological tests. I have a PhD in Learning Disabilities, a very unique and unusual degree without a licensure (as there are too few of us to credential). Yes, 99% of the time, this is administered by clinical psychologist. However, the test publishers would not sell me the test if I did not have the required training and supervision. I look at tests in a very different way than most psychologists do given my background and I see how various tests apply to academics. Most clinical psychologists don't teach reading and don't understand the development of reading. I don't do counseling as I'm not trained in it. Overlapping skill sets but not the same skill sets.

[@annemariebraswell8685]

As a psychologist, I felt that I needed to let you know that some of your statements are inaccurate. School psychologist don’t have just a masters degree, but we have a specialist’s degree as well, which is an additional 45 hours of clinical studies and 1200 hours of supervised internship in a school based setting. We are trained how to administer and interpret standardized assessments to a wide range of children and young adults. The selection and interpretation of appropriate assessments is a very crucial part of our job, especially as we help to determine whether a student qualifies for special education services based on state mandated criteria. The WISC-V is a Level C administration and not just anyone can administer it. Perhaps you are confused with a school psychometrist from over 40 years ago who only had a masters degree and did not have the specialized training that current school psychologist have?

[@explainingdyslexia]

School Psychologists in WA state are required to have a the minimum Master's degree. Most school psychologist that I work with only administer an IQ test and one achievement test. There is little to no thought in what they will administer and why. I do know about a Level C qualification as I have one. I have a colleague who just finished her degree in New Jersey. She happened to get a PysD, but the majority of the students in her program only got a Master's to allow them to work in the schools (New Jersey and New York). I agree that I might have drawn a conclusion that it was the same nationally. However, I would point out that on the NAPS website, who state to get a credential form their national boards "Applicants must complete an organized degree program of study that is officially titled "School Psychology" that consists of at least 60 graduate semester/90 quarter hours." 36 units is the minimum number of hours most degree programs require. Yes, there are many people get a Psy.D. in school psychology.

[@annemariebraswell8685]

@@explainingdyslexia thank you for your response. Now I’ve learned something. I’ve worked in Georgia and North Carolina and even though evaluations are the majority of what we do (much more than 1 IQ and achievement typically), we are trained to do counseling and crisis response. We also do a lot of staff, student, and parent consulting to make sure kids are identified if they have a disability. There are “Diagnosticians” who do just achievement testing to help out. There is a shortage of school psychologists. Again, thanks for letting me know something that I did not. I think it’s great that you are explaining assessments to parents.

[@kefeccefek8661]

any insight to if a struggling readers is higher in nonsense decoding than in letter word recognition . why would this be the case. how best to teach in each case.. this is more ktea question . thanks for your videos.. very clear and informative

[@explainingdyslexia]

We put a video up just to answer your question! Thanks for reaching out!

[@kefeccefek8661]

@@explainingdyslexia do you have a link for that video thanks again

[@explainingdyslexia]

Hi, So, the first question is if this is a younger or older student. If it is a younger student, it suggests that they have basic phonics and can begin to decode words. Then they struggle when they are presented with phonetically irregular words. In an older student, they are typically slowing down to analyze more of the nonsense word. I'd want to know about the kinds of errors they are making when reading. Are they attending to the overall structure of the word? Are they guessing based on the first few letters or words that are typically within their sight vocabulary. Are there errors with specific syllable types? I'd want to do a WADE (assessment that comes with the Wilson Reading System) or the real and nonsense word decoding on the DIBELS (assuming I don't have access to a standardized measure like a KTEA or WIAT). You can get your hands on some nonsense and real words in any form that follow a logical progression (Close, Open and VCE syllable types) you can send us your data and we will talk through it! Just give us the real words and then give us a recording or phonetic approximation of how they read it. If you send something from a standardized measure, well give alternatives to not ruin the assessment. Thanks for watching!

[@explainingdyslexia]

Here is the video where were talk about nonsense words vs. real words, but I think the real words score was higher studio.kzbin.infoPRhP74WgzZc/edit