Wisdom is about overcoming foolishness | John Vervaeke and Lex Fridman

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[@MrJesseBell]

Finally someone described it technically for me. This video is an educational piece about the human mind. I will come back to it often.

[@lievenyperman9363]

John Vervaeke has that effect on me often. His lecture series "awakening from the meaning crisis" is packed with gems like this.

[@matt_px0]

That's why I pay for KZbin so I have the opportunity to download videos like this

[@BF-non]

go directly to Vervaeke, the best at giving vocabulary to these complex concepts imo.

[@seatonking8136]

So intelligence is what, how and where. And wisdom is the why, why not and when. Just my take on it. Im a simple thinker.

[@TerriblePerfection]

Sometimes wisdom is not answering a question too quickly.

[@iponczk]

Wisdom is also forgoing a complicated word when a simple word will do just fine, ironically

[@iponczk]

@Danny Dreadnought if forgo and complicated are ‘hard words’ to you, you aren’t very bright to begin with

[@ubertrashcat]

Unfortunately talking about cognition is hard because cognition is how we perceive the world so we rarely discuss it, therefore we don't have the words. Colloquial vocabulary doesn't have the necessary terms to discuss cognitive science. Instead he uses metaphors and philosophical language, because a lot of this was the subject of philosophy before cognitive science. If the answer to "what is wisdom" was easy, nobody would be asking it. The other thing is that Lex understands him so he's adjusting. Go watch his Cambridge lecture, it's much more down to earth.

[@Kormac80]

Lex is smart enough to intuit the questions that optimize the conversation. A very rare ability.

[@dropbearjd8986]

Wisdom is knowing when to bother with intellect... Not everything is worth your time, worry, effort... Use your intelligence wisely 🙌🙏

[@timadamson3378]

The sensory motor loop he describes is expressed most directly and profoundly in metaphorical cognition, in which patterns from perceptual life, such as balancing, holding, seeing, walking, are brought into mature cognition and used as ways of thinking about morality, meaning, politics, etc. We experience thinking as a step-by-step process, i.e. walking. We construct governments with a balance of powers, bringing the bodily experience of balancing up into abstract thought. Notice it almost every single thing he says, and we say, is expressed in these metaphors.

[@thumbs4fingers]

This is deep.

[@spacecowboy788]

@@Joe-sg9ll swoosh

[@Phrinkle]

This is deeper.

[@ptuparttimeutuber2236]

@@Joe-sg9ll redneck for ‘went over my head’

[@wakkowarner9522]

thats what she said

[@georgesperis3198]

Relevance Realization. How important is this thing for my agenda. That is relevance realization.

[@lievenyperman9363]

Is my agenda important?

[@jasondoolin6476]

Fantastic stuff

[@theuniques1199]

Wisdom is realizing you are the eternal fool first believing you aren't playing the eternal fool.

[@DonBrowningRacing]

He likes to hear himself wander about wondering about little.

[@jarrodnunn]

Bingo!

[@carefulcarpenter]

"We lie to the world, one-little-white-lie to another half-truth, until we trust no one--- especially ourselves." cc

[@amasan72]

Sir, the key to communication is simplicity

[@pilesthedonkey]

1. Just keep overcoming wisdom until foolishness reveals itself. 2. Two Greeks and two Jews who have come to talk to you will talk to you and tell you about me. 3. Don't listen to them. 4. Decide what you want and make it up.

[@MrFreedomismyname]

Alright, alright, alright... This guy uses more $10 words than Shakespeare. Dumb it down for the rest of us, Mr Wordsmith

[@shanktown]

hes a neuroscientist dude

[@MrFreedomismyname]

@@shanktown I admit his vocab is way over my head. I just don't trust people who don't know how to speak down to the common man (me)

[@MrFreedomismyname]

@Danny Dreadnought wow, thanks for adding to the convo, bruh. "I just need to type something, anything... quick, what would make me most vulnerable"...jk, bruh you rock

[@veliiswildingoutonyoutube9646]

🤣 facts 😂

[@yuriyfazylov5506]

@Danny Dreadnought you go to a talk show to be relatable, not to let people know that they have to keep up or else.

[@bobdownie.2806]

Wisdom is understanding what you need to do to find fulfilment in your life.

[@andyoates8392]

“Turtles all the way up” 😊💚♾️

[@jonhylow1239]

Wisdom also is about overcoming culture, ignorance, the average, the lowest common denominator and its about not to stop, when everybody else has long given up on something.Also wise people are alwaqys fighters.

[@timadamson3378]

Sometimes overcoming culture but of course in order to reengage culture and be a deep part of one's world.

[@KabbalahredemptionBlogspot]

In Kabbalah, foolishness is the absence of Wisdom as Darkness is the absence of Light. Case in point => your guest.

[@KabbalahredemptionBlogspot]

His comment is not incorrect, it's just backwards.

[@xav500011]

Go pro in a shopping trolley down a hill

[@cyan936]

wisdom is often nothing more than the ability to follow one's own advice

[@melvindenny8962]

What?

[@michaelrobertson1736]

hell yeah

[@dadsonworldwide3238]

Here ill disagree with the assumption that's its evolving. Subjective beilef that something is optimal over anything. For example automobile of 1930 can drive on any terrain but your telsa will not drive on 1930 wagon trail roads it isn't a better evolutionary selection of advancement for all roads or ages in time. It's not advancing or evolving we can't say that one is better or greater than the other. Those who goes crazy and over over load clearly don't improve and it was no selective evolving. It's to many examples of this.

[@oliverman6168]

Life,,an endless ritual. Continuation,perpetual.

[@yuriyfazylov5506]

What or who is Marlow Ponte?

[@AshInTrees]

Maurice Merleau-Ponty, french phenomenological philosopher.

[@adnanleo3096]

According to Rumi it's realisation.

[@theuniques1199]

Evolution means to grow conscious of itself therefore the Universe grows conscious of itself as proof of itself because this Universe repeats itself as the process to grow conscious of itself as proof of itself, I always have and always will rewrite this same exact comment, eternity never changes itself because it repeats itself as self eternal knowledge as proof of itself.

[@wakkowarner9522]

I need some of the stuff this guy is smoking 😂

[@lievenyperman9363]

I bet it's the weed that grows in Plato's cave.

[@SameAsAnyOtherStranger]

I'll admit I'm struggling to keep up with this interview, so...wouldn't it be better if wisdom could just walk side by side with foolishness?

[@TerriblePerfection]

I thought it did! 😂

[@lievenyperman9363]

It does.

[@joannafelten1959]

Wisdom is looking at things from God's point of view.

[@lievenyperman9363]

How do you do that?

[@adelinaquijano1083]

is not the reason I learn

[@meroiridawson1785]

🤡 is wisdom

[@dmsdad6866]

Ok,...its proven; I'm dumb

[@lievenyperman9363]

"I know that I know nothing" - Socrates -

[@oliverjamito9902]

LEX is like who reveal not yet supposed. Revealing what is done in indeed these...indeed KNOWS? LEX will say GOD OF THE LIVING. what is a MAN? THAT WHO YE ALL RECOGNIZE? WHY? LEX WILL SAY WHAT IS A MAN? "THAT YOU ARE SO MINDFUL of HIM. LIKE ALL FEET LIKE LEX AND KINGS AND PRIESTS UPON ALL DRY GROUNDS NOR THE WORLD. LEX WILL SAY KEEP THY CROWN AND I SHALL DO THE SAME. LEX AND ALL WHO CAME AND VISITED. WHAT IS GIVEN? LEX SHARE THY CROWN! AND MANY LIKE MANY OF YOU AS 1. REMEMBER WHAT IS SOOTHING TO HEAR AND FOOD. WHAT IS GIVEN? WHERE ALL. KNOWS THEIR HEARTS WILL BE ALSO. DEEP NOR SHALLOW. INDEED SECURED. WHY? Remember what is SOOTHING to HEAR and FOOD to BRING FORTH. For my beloved innocent little ones. Upon all DRY GROUNDS nor the world. With true knowledge with a Foundation and is what gives the reason nor deeper and the very deepest. NOW who can stand upon all DRY GROUNDS nor the world. Getting dizzy is like lack of or lack of FAITH. SPECIALLY WALKING in HUMILITY, SPIRITUALITY, and FAITH. Why? Does it have to? TO SOME WILL SAY. HOSTS AND HEIRS AND OUR BEAUTIFUL SISTERS WILL SAY. REMEMBER THESE INNOCENT LITTLE ONES LAUGHTER IS SOOTHING TO HEAR AND FOOD UNTO GOD OF THE LIVING

[@MaxKomes]

Vervaeke challenges my intellect in the best way

[@justinc5408]

This is intelligence

[@MrFreedomismyname]

Please do a word by word analysis for the rest of us in here. You know, the dumbass in all of us that are trying to learn

[@quaphik4239]

🙏🏽🙏🏽🔥🗺💜

[@theNZmatt]

Superior intelligence is explaining hard things so dumb ppl can understand. I don't understand 😂

[@meroiridawson1785]

Wisdom is 🤡

[@Wkeje]

I dont understand this guy

[@occxxxy]

Dude must be a professor of semantics. Or lost in the genjutsu of the English language. Possibly both

[@snackentity5709]

That's because he doesn't water down anything for the audience. He always talks like he's conversing with someone else steeped in cognition theory for 30 years. Obviously that's not always a good thing, like if you'd like to get your point across to someone who is not also a walking cognition theory textbook.